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Speaker 1: Morning consult. Eli set the stage for us. Are they

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Speaker 1: losing grounds to Joe Biden on who's better suited to

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Speaker 1: Whenever we get pass this corontavirus, and Joe Biden is

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Speaker 1: ground has shifted from underneath the President Trump on this. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: voters want something to happen in Washington. What they're seeing

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Speaker 1: think about their votes, and it's why it's part of

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Speaker 1: we've seen coronavirus cases take back up since the beginning

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Speaker 1: of June. All Right, Maddie, come in here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: which is that even Americans who identify as phecically conservative

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Speaker 1: But on the issue of providing tax credits to businesses

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Speaker 1: because we have we at Bloomberg, I mean, unfortunately, headline

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Speaker 1: credit like that work. Uh, you know you're attacked. You're

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Speaker 1: What is the precedent for this? What do we know

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Speaker 1: that increasing the harmonization of that Employee Retention Task Credit,

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Speaker 1: which would us of the things that you're talking about

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Speaker 1: that that right there. I wish I could bold it,

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Speaker 1: you're spot on. No, but it's but it's so true, Maddie,

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Speaker 1: just it's a complete, utter nightmare for these for the

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Speaker 1: Street or the big conglomerates. I'm talking about the midsize

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Speaker 1: And and that's you know, I think it's I it's

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Speaker 1: it's fascinating because it's more nuanced than whether or not

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Speaker 1: you support a bailout. It's more nuanced than whether you

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Speaker 1: supp or any of this. It's it's really I don't

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Speaker 1: even want to say CEO is because a lot of

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Speaker 1: these people are only It's not CEO is like Jamie Diamond.

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Speaker 1: It's it's much smaller companies. All right, coming up, I

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Speaker 1: promise we're gonna get to Joel Ruben on the U

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Speaker 1: S and China, Elia, Maddie A're gonna stick around and

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Speaker 1: tell me what's on their radar. Download the Bloomberg Sound

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Speaker 1: Are you still there? All right? And you're gonna wait

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Speaker 1: for us? Right, You're gonna wait for us, right, You're

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Speaker 1: gonna hang on, Say he's there. Everybody we are going

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Speaker 1: to talk about Chung Do and the closing of that

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Speaker 1: consulate and uh and again just uh some house, some

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Speaker 1: house cleaning, breaking news. We're starting the show a half

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Speaker 1: hour early. We will be on for ninety minutes come Monday,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you can of course find us a cross platform. Alright, folks,

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Speaker 1: we're almost there. It's almost Friday, and I'm Kevin's really

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Speaker 1: chief Washington correspondent of Bloomberg Television, of Bloomberg Radio, and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. Sound On

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Speaker 1: with Kevin sirelate on Bloomberg and one oh five point

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Speaker 1: seven m h D two. I'm Kevin Curreli, chief Washington

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Speaker 1: correspondent for Bloomberg Television and for Bloomberg Radio. We've got

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Speaker 1: a panel of all stars to help us navigate through

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Speaker 1: today's dizzying day of news. Uh. And I'm very grateful

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Speaker 1: to have Maddie Duppler on. She's found her Forward Strategy

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Speaker 1: as a senior fellow at the National Taxpayers Union, former

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Speaker 1: Coalitions director for the House Republican Conference, Eli Yoakley, the

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Speaker 1: political reporter for The Morning consult and Joel Reuben, Democratic

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Speaker 1: strategist and former Deputy Assistant Secretary for Legislative Affairs at

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Speaker 1: the State's Department UM and in the Obama administration, UH

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Speaker 1: that we began today with the U. S. And China

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Speaker 1: relations toole in which China has shut down a consulate

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Speaker 1: and chung Do UM and this comes just a couple

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Speaker 1: of days after the US shut down a consulate in Houston,

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Speaker 1: over the past couple of years, UM been a source

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Speaker 1: Now I want to read from the Bloomberg terminal Chris

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Speaker 1: Strom's reporting. The Trump Administration's decision to shutter the Chinese

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Speaker 1: consulate in Houston followed years of frustration about criminal and

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Speaker 1: covert activity directed by Beijing to steal trade secrets and

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Speaker 1: carry out my ligne influence operations across the United States.

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Speaker 1: While two Chinese citizens were convicted in the past year

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Speaker 1: tip of the Iceberg end quote when it comes to

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Speaker 1: concerns about China, Joel. The response from the intelligence community

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Speaker 1: and largely this was just for show. What's your interpretation, Yeah, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: and China. It's very troubling. So today, maybe it's a

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Speaker 1: and there's no guardrails to use an analogy there on

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Speaker 1: lot of different ways. To your point, President Trumps saying

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Speaker 1: But you were there, you were in Chung do I

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Speaker 1: mean many folks, I mean, this isn't tell us why

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Speaker 1: Kevin's really take a deep breath. But it's Chung Do

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on things. But consulates in general are

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Speaker 1: so this is not a new piece of information. The

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Speaker 1: Congress has to ask and the American people have to ask,

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Speaker 1: where is the Trump administration taking us on this vital

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Speaker 1: relationship on so many levels. It's been very bad several

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Speaker 1: of it. And advance our interests coming out of Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump's policy right now? Well, and it's and it's it

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Speaker 1: all comes down to I think the Biden campaign, former

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Speaker 1: we need to restore the alliances and embolden them with

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Speaker 1: Europe in order to address China. And President Trump is

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Speaker 1: going to argue that it's the unpredictability and uncertainty and

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Speaker 1: addressing China solo with a more aggressive UH positioning is

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Speaker 1: going to drive China. So it's it really comes down

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Speaker 1: to ideology. What what strategy you want to deploy? Okay, quickly, guys,

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Speaker 1: because I really want to make sure that we get

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Speaker 1: to everyone. Tell us one thing that's on your radar, Eli,

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Speaker 1: yokally quickly, what's on your radar? Watching for Jo Biden's

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Speaker 1: vice presidential pick? Young people? Women really want to see

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Speaker 1: somebody who's young, has legislatum, looks like an experience, and

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Speaker 1: and we know he's got four black women on his list,

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Speaker 1: so let me watching pretty closely. Seems that comes out

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Speaker 1: it should be the next few weeks. Hey, well guess what.

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Speaker 1: Guess what is happening one week from tomorrow. It's the

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Speaker 1: hundredth anniversary of the women getting the right to vote.

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Speaker 1: So you know, if you're going to announce your VP

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Speaker 1: is and it's a female timing, is everything? Right? Um?

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Speaker 1: And well, what do I know? And Maddie Zuppler, what's

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Speaker 1: on your radar? That was a good pr pitch for

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Speaker 1: the biding campaign? Have take you up on that idea.

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Speaker 1: I don't work Wait a minute, See now I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: cut into your time. I don't work for any campaign.

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Speaker 1: That's how rumors get started. Alright, go what's on your radar? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: When all that, when all the Twitter trolls are tweeting me,

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Speaker 1: you're this, You're that. You know I've been called liberal.

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Speaker 1: I will stand up for you, stand up for you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I got thick skin. I got thick

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Speaker 1: skin and delco. So go ahead, Maddie, what's on your radar? So? Anyways,

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Speaker 1: the thing that I'm trying to say that it's on

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Speaker 1: my radar are these executive orders of President just announced,

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Speaker 1: the one in particular where he threatened drug importation pricing

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Speaker 1: really really problematic. We'll see, you know, we've seen the

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Speaker 1: president kind of dangle timelines out there before. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if this happen next month. But the president needs to

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Speaker 1: keep in mind that he's not importing prices from different countries,

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Speaker 1: is importing price controls, and that's gonna have a huge

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Speaker 1: problem when it comes to drug evaluation development here, which

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Speaker 1: of course we need more than ever in the middle

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Speaker 1: of a pandemic. And it's secondly, real, quickly, Happy birthday

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Speaker 1: to pop us the Reilly thank you, thank you very much,

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Speaker 1: um not not yeah? What's on your radar? Joel ruben

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Speaker 1: stold my sound on the happy birthday? But exciting primary

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Speaker 1: race up in Minnesota's fifth elhan Omar getting challeng's hard

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Speaker 1: and it's exciting. It's Jewish politics on steroids, which I love.

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Speaker 1: It's close to my heart. And she is part of

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Speaker 1: the squad and a strong black woman, a Muslim woman

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Speaker 1: at this time right now, is a really great choice

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Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party. But she is definitely getting hit

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Speaker 1: for her opponent as well. What do you think is

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Speaker 1: gonna happen? I think that she is gonna gonna pull

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Speaker 1: it out, and I think it's gonna be really hard

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Speaker 1: fought between now and election day. I think that there's

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Speaker 1: a tremendous volume of money, millions of dollar is being

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Speaker 1: attacking her, and it's it's very aggressive because she is

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Speaker 1: a strong, effective legislator with a really good track record.

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Speaker 1: That's a freshwoman to um to. She got a lot

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Speaker 1: done in Congress very quickly. All Right, thank you team,

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Speaker 1: Thank you Joel Ruben, thank you Melioally, thank you Mattie Tuppler.

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Speaker 1: That does it for me. We're starting to four thirty

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Speaker 1: on Monday of Kevin Curreli. Happy birthday, Dad. I'm the

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Speaker 1: chief watching a correspondent for Bluber TV and radio. It's