Speaker 1: Hey, ba Fam, I don't even know what to say
Speaker 1: exactly and how to prepare you guys for today's show
Speaker 1: other than that I am so freaking happy to see
Speaker 1: this woman's face again. It has been such a long time,
Speaker 1: and I know that y'all have been keeping Tiffany and
Speaker 1: your thoughts and prayers and praying for her and sending
Speaker 1: all the dms and sending all the ba fam love
Speaker 1: her way, and we have been patient and given tiff
Speaker 1: all the time that she needed to heal and to
Speaker 1: be ready to come back. And I just want to
Speaker 1: say Tiff, like, I'm so grateful to have you back,
Speaker 1: and it feels very surreal to have you back. But
Speaker 1: I'm so ready to be back to broad ambition as
Speaker 1: we envisioned it, which was the two of us, you know,
Speaker 1: bouncing off one another and welcome back.
Speaker 2: Well, I say back ish, back ish to my life. Thanks.
Speaker 3: It feels, I guess, a little nerve racking and good
Speaker 3: to be because well, I just want to be fully transparent.
Speaker 3: I'm still resetting what it looks like, what the new back.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Brown's New Black or Orange is
Speaker 3: New Black, whatever that show was. It's like, back is
Speaker 3: the new back. You know, I don't know what that
Speaker 3: looks like for me yet. You know, one of the
Speaker 3: things I'm sure who knows you know, you might not
Speaker 3: for those of you who listening might not know. My
Speaker 3: husband passed away about five months ago, and so I
Speaker 3: took obviously time away fortunate and that I have created
Speaker 3: a business or several businesses. I like for myself, Well,
Speaker 3: I don't have to work anymore. The truth is I
Speaker 3: could have been stopped working a long time ago, but
Speaker 3: workaholics don't know how to not stop working. But you know,
Speaker 3: now I'm really conscious that, you know, I don't have
Speaker 3: to work anymore. And if there is a silver lining,
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, the things I've been teaching y'all through
Speaker 3: the budgetiest to like. I mean, I knew that it
Speaker 3: wasn't just rhetoric, but like, when life really got real,
Speaker 3: I got to see, like, oh, this is really life
Speaker 3: changing information because you know, it put me be in
Speaker 3: a position that I don't have to work, and not
Speaker 3: because of insurance money whatever. I don't have to work
Speaker 3: because of the work I did prior period. So I
Speaker 3: really got to sit back and ask myself, what did
Speaker 3: I want life to look like? I'm still figuring that
Speaker 3: out moving forward, because a lot of what I was
Speaker 3: doing before was a lot of just autopilot. You know,
Speaker 3: you work because you're work it because you work bigger
Speaker 3: and bigger, bigger, more and more and more, and not
Speaker 3: even so much for the money truthfully, because you know,
Speaker 3: I'm always wearing my target's best. Literally, this t shirts
Speaker 3: from Target, and as are my jeans, and I'm sure
Speaker 3: even my bra I believe it's from.
Speaker 2: Targeting, like I.
Speaker 3: So it's not that it was more so that, like
Speaker 3: I had this mentality like if I can get a B,
Speaker 3: can I get a If I can get a can
Speaker 3: I get a plus? If I can get a plus,
Speaker 3: I get a plus plus. And I thought that that's
Speaker 3: how life was supposed to progress. But death is really
Speaker 3: clarify and you know, I have a new sense of Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't care anymore now, meaning like I don't care
Speaker 3: about collecting the things along the way that show me
Speaker 3: that I'm doing better that like how I am when
Speaker 3: I was a preschool teacher to budding business Tiffany to
Speaker 3: now mogul Tiffany is each one of those stages was
Speaker 3: enough if I decided so that I can you know,
Speaker 3: I don't need to to quantify my worth by adding
Speaker 3: things to it. And so I'm getting you know, I'm
Speaker 3: still seeking clarity about what does that look like. I
Speaker 3: am partially retired because I know it's like I went
Speaker 3: live on IG and I told everybody else backsh and
Speaker 3: like the floodgates open. But it's a new Tiffany, so
Speaker 3: the boundaries are here and I'm just like, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this. I don't want to do this.
Speaker 3: And even with the podcast, I told myself like, I'm
Speaker 3: giving myself a mission to decide while I do it
Speaker 3: because I Mandy and I you know, you know, she's
Speaker 3: been such an amazing friend. You know, we spoke obviously,
Speaker 3: you know, I mean we haven't been here, but Mandy
Speaker 3: has been there for me, and we talked a lot.
Speaker 3: And my knee jerk is like, like, oh, I got
Speaker 3: to come back to brand Ambish because I miss Mandy.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, missing Mandy and Brown and Bishon
Speaker 3: are two different things, you know, And so I'm giving
Speaker 3: myself permission to say, you know, see how you like,
Speaker 3: see how you feel, you know, because I knew, so
Speaker 3: I went to BALI for like almost two months, just
Speaker 3: to like.
Speaker 2: Get space away and clarity.
Speaker 3: And I came back maybe like a less than a
Speaker 3: month ago, a few weeks ago, and I got to
Speaker 3: write down the things that I did not miss and
Speaker 3: the things that I did miss, and there were things
Speaker 3: that kind of fell in between.
Speaker 2: And one of the things I knew that I.
Speaker 3: Miss I said brand ambition, but I realized what I
Speaker 3: was saying is I miss Mandy. I missed talking to
Speaker 3: my friend every week, and I want to see if.
Speaker 2: That's tied to this.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still seeing and I want to give
Speaker 3: myself permission, but also I want to give transparency for
Speaker 3: y'all when it comes to that. I don't know, you
Speaker 3: know how I feel after taping if I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is too much, or if I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I really miss doing this because I don't want to
Speaker 3: give false yess, which I've been doing, like and so
Speaker 3: many women we do this like.
Speaker 2: Your whole life.
Speaker 3: It's like, sure, I do it, it's not that big
Speaker 3: of a deal. I want to please. I want to
Speaker 3: make sure that people are not angry or upset or everybody.
Speaker 3: Everybody in my life got to get what they needed
Speaker 3: except for me, And I'm just not willing to do
Speaker 3: that anymore, especially now, because you know, the lessons that
Speaker 3: I've learned is like, well, what is the point and
Speaker 3: the purpose if you don't also get looked after, you know,
Speaker 3: if you give away all of that to everyone else.
Speaker 3: And I'm just not willing to do that anymore. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's been I mean, I don't know that you ever
Speaker 3: heal from like a great loss, but I do know,
Speaker 3: like I'm grateful of an amazing therapist. If y'all have
Speaker 3: been being listeners for a while, you've heard me talked
Speaker 3: about talk about doctor green my coach, and she was
Speaker 3: an amazing Oh I needn't. I had felt I needed
Speaker 3: a therapist like some years ago, but I couldn't find
Speaker 3: a good one.
Speaker 2: So someone suggested a coach to me. Her name is
Speaker 2: doctor Greene.
Speaker 3: She's the sister I love her and so she so
Speaker 3: she was like, okay, I can I can coach you.
Speaker 3: Although she's, like I said, a therapist because she didn't
Speaker 3: have her license in New Jersey. But then, by God's grace, honestly,
Speaker 3: I reached out to her when I was really like
Speaker 3: in the depths of despair and I was like, I just,
Speaker 3: you know, can you suggest a therapist to me? And
Speaker 3: she was like, just a week ago because of quarantine,
Speaker 3: the pandemic or whatever that I guess at a federal level,
Speaker 3: they have given therapists like passes to other states and.
Speaker 2: You can apply for them.
Speaker 3: And she had applied and gotten her therapy passed basically
Speaker 3: for New Jersey, so she could actually be my therapist
Speaker 3: and I could have wept with joy and so I
Speaker 3: you know, so this person who's gotten to know and
Speaker 3: grow with me the last few years, you know, she
Speaker 3: has really helped tremendously through this really.
Speaker 2: Like difficult and time.
Speaker 3: It's just it feels surreal, like if you guys are listening,
Speaker 3: you know, like the joke is that Darrell's gonna open
Speaker 3: the door. We're all gonna be like every time I
Speaker 3: tape the podcast, you're gonna hear the creek like it's
Speaker 3: gonna be him, Like you need a sandwich, you need that.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm taping with Mandy and I thought, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: cow be back and like to know that that's not
Speaker 3: gonna happen again.
Speaker 2: It's just like, yo, it just never like I.
Speaker 1: Was just talking to you either it was because you
Speaker 1: know that somewhere there's Darrell loving you, you know, being
Speaker 1: his wonderful self in the background, and.
Speaker 2: So it just I don't know, I don't know anything
Speaker 2: other than like.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna take it one day at a time,
Speaker 2: honestly figure out.
Speaker 1: You don't have to know a damn thing. Tiff, and
Speaker 1: I think, as I think, the most beautiful gift we
Speaker 1: can give each other as friends sometimes is the space
Speaker 1: to not know and to not have an answer, and
Speaker 1: to literally say I don't need anything from you, you know,
Speaker 1: like of course I want I want your you know,
Speaker 1: as long as somewhere in the world Tiff is a
Speaker 1: happy person and she's feeling fulfilled that, you know, whether
Speaker 1: or not I am near or the show is near.
Speaker 1: I think that's the gift as a friend that maybe
Speaker 1: even took me a long time to realize. But and
Speaker 1: through the pandemic too. You know, you have friendships that
Speaker 1: you feel have just had these like ebbs and flows
Speaker 1: to them. I guess all I'm just trying to say
Speaker 1: is it's fine. You don't have to say another word.
Speaker 1: And when you're when you want to come, this is
Speaker 1: a space you can come to. You know your passion
Speaker 1: and your knowledge and the gifts that you have to
Speaker 1: share in whatever form you want to share them when like,
Speaker 1: I don't see you ever stopping doing that, and if
Speaker 1: this is one of the platforms where you can do that,
Speaker 1: like we're all the luckier for it. I love you
Speaker 1: a lot.
Speaker 2: I love you too, Mandy, And honestly, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't if you guys have listened with us from the beginning.
Speaker 3: I mean, you really, we have grown so much. We
Speaker 3: were just like two single girls when we started off.
Speaker 2: You know, and we've been here. I mean, you've seen
Speaker 2: us get married. You see Mandy have her beautiful baby.
Speaker 2: I mean, all the things you've seen her like crushing
Speaker 2: in corporate. You've seen me grow from like baby budgetista
Speaker 2: to where I am now. You know, then you've seen
Speaker 2: her strike out on her own. It's just, you know,
Speaker 2: it's like this living diary of like this part of
Speaker 2: our lives. You know that I'm really grateful for.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to say, we're going to have
Speaker 1: time to sit down and listen to three hundred hours.
Speaker 2: I don't let them ever do that. But it's out there.
Speaker 2: At least it's out there.
Speaker 1: My son's going to be like Mama, let's talk about
Speaker 1: you almost didn't marry.
Speaker 3: Let But if I could like impress upon y'all any
Speaker 3: like kind of like words of wisdom. One take so
Speaker 3: many pictures in video. I'm not for the sake of posting,
Speaker 3: but just for the sake of for the sake of it.
Speaker 3: I mean, like almost like diary your life. Because Drug's
Speaker 3: mom had passed away when he was in his twenties,
Speaker 3: and that was one of the things he said, I
Speaker 3: don't have enough pictures of her, and I have no video.
Speaker 2: But Jirelle, he was like a secret vlogger.
Speaker 3: Like after he passed, I went through his phone, Mandy
Speaker 3: so many pictures in video, like of just like him.
Speaker 2: Talking like today was a good day. I did the laundry,
Speaker 2: although Tiffany didn't cook. That's all right, I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know what. So but to go through and see all
Speaker 2: those things that I created like.
Speaker 3: A Google drive, and I added all the pictures, all
Speaker 3: the video, and then I every person that came to
Speaker 3: see me. There's this thing you could do in Google
Speaker 3: where you can say, if this face appears in your phone,
Speaker 3: added to the drive. And so we have thousands and
Speaker 3: thousands of pictures in videos, so at any moment in time,
Speaker 3: you know, you can hear him laughing or play or
Speaker 3: singing or just saying I love you or whatever, so
Speaker 3: that you know, that's like such a blessing. Like I mean,
Speaker 3: it's not just like when it's birthdays. I'm just talking
Speaker 3: about it's just a Tuesday, you know, And so like
Speaker 3: collect that for yourself and especially the mom's out there.
Speaker 3: So often you're taking pictures of the babies and you're
Speaker 3: not in it, you know, make sure like turn that
Speaker 3: camera around it and put yourself in it as well.
Speaker 3: And then two, honestly get your financial house in order,
Speaker 3: like Jirella and I were about eighty five percent in order.
Speaker 3: And there were things we dragged our feet on, like, oh, like,
Speaker 3: for example, I did not have a will and needed
Speaker 3: did he because.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I mean he's forty one.
Speaker 3: We'll get Even though I've been working with Antili, my
Speaker 3: financial advisor, for like three years. We met with her quarterly,
Speaker 3: the both of us, and every time we met, are
Speaker 3: you guys done with that will? I had Tony, who's
Speaker 3: my attorney. Tony, every at least twice a year, she'd
Speaker 3: be like, let's get this will done because you like
Speaker 3: you can't anticipate that.
Speaker 2: But but even though Jurrell.
Speaker 3: Didn't have a will because we had to findincial advisor
Speaker 3: and everything else, I knew exactly what he wanted and
Speaker 3: as did everyone else. And so there's very little that
Speaker 3: like slipped through the cracks that the will had to cover.
Speaker 3: So that was good.
Speaker 2: But update also your beneficiaries because like maybe just a
Speaker 2: year ago, Angelie was going through our beneficiaries and for example,
Speaker 2: though the one he had at his job, it didn't
Speaker 2: he still had Melissa's mother on there, you know, from
Speaker 2: what he started that job when he was like twenty two,
Speaker 2: you know. And so update your beneficiaries because there was
Speaker 2: one there was one life insurance policy that he had
Speaker 2: ordered the beneficiary update form for because it was like
Speaker 2: his homework and I saw this inbox.
Speaker 3: He never signed it, and so that life insurance policy
Speaker 3: is not signed to ALYSSA and it ought to be.
Speaker 3: So that was kind of like, you know, thankfully, like
Speaker 3: I have grown more than enough wealth that like she
Speaker 3: will always be fine. But that was really it, Like
Speaker 3: it was like because we had done all of the
Speaker 3: other work, you know, those small things. You know, it's
Speaker 3: not small because the life insuring policy wasn't a little
Speaker 3: bit of money.
Speaker 2: But honestly, I.
Speaker 3: Can make that money back really quickly. But still I
Speaker 3: thought to myself, you know, if I was still preschool teacher, Tiffany,
Speaker 3: that could be devastating, you know, the loss of that
Speaker 3: and that insurance policy. So I'm sharing this transparently because
Speaker 3: so many times we wait, Like literally, my dad is
Speaker 3: in his eighties and I was like, yo, his will
Speaker 3: is still from when I was six. It was until
Speaker 3: like I put my foot all the way down. I
Speaker 3: had Tony. I didn't know this, but I one of
Speaker 3: the reasons why we didn't do a will is because
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to take a long time.
Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, I don't have time to
Speaker 3: dig through all my stuff. It was a thirty minute
Speaker 3: conversation with Tony.
Speaker 2: That was it.
Speaker 3: And in that conversation she asked me all these questions
Speaker 3: and then she created the will. I was like, wait,
Speaker 3: that was it. All this time, what I've been avoiding.
Speaker 3: I thought I had to collect. I thought it was
Speaker 3: like doing the will was like doing your taxes. You
Speaker 3: have to collect all of your stuff. And so I
Speaker 3: had her and she then Tony said I told her
Speaker 3: about my parents are my worry that they didn't have
Speaker 3: a will, they didn't have a health care directive, and
Speaker 3: she's like, I can create it, just a general one
Speaker 3: which just basically says something happens to dad, it goes
Speaker 3: to mom.
Speaker 2: Something happens to mom, it goes to dad.
Speaker 3: And I said, yes, create it, because if I had
Speaker 3: to sit down with them and had these questions, you're
Speaker 3: not going to do it. She created it their healthcare
Speaker 3: directive as well. I went to them, they read it over,
Speaker 3: they were like, this is good. We went to the bank,
Speaker 3: the bank and had them signed in front of the bank,
Speaker 3: and the bank notarized it for them, all within a
Speaker 3: couple of days. And so I just because because of
Speaker 3: the work we did, I get to just miss Jerrell.
Speaker 3: You know, he didn't leave any dead. He didn't leave
Speaker 3: any like financial responsibilities that I'm like, what am I
Speaker 3: going to do behind?
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: We paid off both of the houses we have, you know,
Speaker 3: including our rental property.
Speaker 2: We like, his car was paid off.
Speaker 3: There was no The last thing on his credit card
Speaker 3: was some sneakers that he bought me, you know, but
Speaker 3: he didn't have any like real credit card that I
Speaker 3: think it was like you know, like eighty dollars or
Speaker 3: something like that.
Speaker 2: And so the blessing in that is I get to
Speaker 2: just miss Jarrell.
Speaker 3: And you know, we talk about money here and kind
Speaker 3: of like this like outside way, but like it really
Speaker 3: hits home, like update your beneficiaries, get a well done,
Speaker 3: you know, put put yourself in a position that you
Speaker 3: can just miss your loved one, or if it's you,
Speaker 3: your loved one can just miss you, you know, because
Speaker 3: if there is you know, there are things despite the grief,
Speaker 3: that I'm grateful for, and that's one of them.
Speaker 2: And I want that for all of us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think as a mom, nothing makes
Speaker 1: you think about dying more than having a kid, like
Speaker 1: all the time. It's a horrific thought. It's a horrific thought.
Speaker 1: I never want that to happen, but it is. And
Speaker 1: I and you know, I was kicking myself after having
Speaker 1: like conversations with you about not getting that kind of
Speaker 1: stuff in order before I had the baby, because even
Speaker 1: those conversations only got more difficult when it was it
Speaker 1: wasn't just me and you know, my husband. It was
Speaker 1: imagining a world where I wouldn't be there for my son.
Speaker 1: But it's very possible, and like, am I going to
Speaker 1: let that get in the way of preparing or creating
Speaker 1: a soft place for him to land and giving him.
Speaker 2: You know, exactly what he needs.
Speaker 1: So I hear you on that too, and I think
Speaker 1: for a lot of it's just like face, it's it's
Speaker 1: silly that fear that we have to face the reality
Speaker 1: that you know we're all heading one place. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's a certainty, just you don't know. The great
Speaker 1: trick of life is you don't know when and you
Speaker 1: know it is that like estate planning and getting the
Speaker 1: best beneficiaries in place. And then it's also, you know,
Speaker 1: the beauty of your message I feel like too, is
Speaker 1: that financial empowerment on an individual level, so that if
Speaker 1: you're the one left behind, you have those resources so
Speaker 1: that you said you can you can grieve on your
Speaker 1: own time and make choices that are healthier for you.
Speaker 1: How many people get up and go to work the
Speaker 1: day after something like that because they have no other choice.
Speaker 3: I was like, Manny, how it made me so much
Speaker 3: more empathetic as a person. I'm like, how do you
Speaker 3: carry this grief and wrong with you and still have
Speaker 3: to go to work.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just I was.
Speaker 3: Thinking that, honestly, I said, because that's one of the
Speaker 3: things like doctor Green, you know, like she let me
Speaker 3: reach the conclusion on my own. But it was like
Speaker 3: in the beginning, I kept saying, this is the worst
Speaker 3: thing that could have ever happened, This is the worst thing.
Speaker 3: And then one day I realized, like I was in
Speaker 3: Bali and I'd taken that time, and I thought, it's
Speaker 3: not the worst thing that could have happened, because it
Speaker 3: is a terrible thing that happened, but in such a
Speaker 3: way that I am financially cared for. There is no
Speaker 3: financial burden left behind. I don't have to go back
Speaker 3: to work if I don't want to. I am surrounded
Speaker 3: by family and friends that loved me and support me.
Speaker 3: Like it's not the worst thing because these things still exist.
Speaker 3: The worst thing is if everything is gone, and everything
Speaker 3: isn't gone, so there is still gratefulness to be had
Speaker 3: in the grief, and you know, I just kept thinking, like,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not the worst thing, but it's you know,
Speaker 3: there are I thought about, like the folks in Ukraine
Speaker 3: who literally some of them their whole family is wiped away,
Speaker 3: you know, that's not what happened to me or people
Speaker 3: who suffer every day from abuse. There was a woman
Speaker 3: who told me that her husband too, suffered from an
Speaker 3: aneurism and he was in a coma. I want to
Speaker 3: say she said it was like three months. And when
Speaker 3: I tell you, I can't even imagine, because Jurell would
Speaker 3: go into the hospital on Tuesday and was gone by
Speaker 3: the weekend. Those few days in between were a nightmare
Speaker 3: because every day you don't know if this is the day. Literally,
Speaker 3: I would literally be putting on my clothes to go
Speaker 3: to the hospital and say, please, please, please, don't let
Speaker 3: this be to day, Please please put you know, because
Speaker 3: every day thinking is this the day that it gets
Speaker 3: ripped away from you? So I cannot imagine doing that
Speaker 3: for ninety days straight. And then he came to from
Speaker 3: the coma and did not remember her. And they've divorced,
Speaker 3: since divorced, and she is gutted because she's like, he's
Speaker 3: still gone. It's like, you know, there's solace in knowing
Speaker 3: that he's alive, but he's gone from me. I cannot
Speaker 3: even or he Jorelle could have lived but then been
Speaker 3: a vegetable for me. It's like I don't even.
Speaker 2: Know what do you do.
Speaker 3: There are caregivers. I don't know how they manage honestly,
Speaker 3: It's just it just life is just such a crazy thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: You you're going along.
Speaker 3: As every as if everything small matters, and then something
Speaker 3: huge happens and you.
Speaker 2: Realize how little those things mattered.
Speaker 3: And so that's just what I'm trying to spend the
Speaker 3: rest of my time doing, is really identifying what actually
Speaker 3: matters and focusing on that, you know, because in the end,
Speaker 3: like I feel.
Speaker 2: Like Jarell cracked the code.
Speaker 3: Like if you knew him personally, he was one of
Speaker 3: the few people that lived as though they had enough.
Speaker 3: I used to I used to wonder, like, you don't
Speaker 3: want to why don't you start this business? And why
Speaker 3: don't you do this m No. I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, he's not motivated. No, Derell's like I have enough, Jarrell.
Speaker 3: I mean, when I looked at his bank account, I
Speaker 3: was like, so we had personal checking, personal savings, and
Speaker 3: then we had joint checking, joint savings, so you know,
Speaker 3: like every pay period I set it up from his
Speaker 3: bank account or from his paycheck at work that it
Speaker 3: would automatically deposit like and filter where needed to go.
Speaker 3: His personal checking and savings was almost depleted. And all
Speaker 3: you saw because he was used to write himself notes
Speaker 3: A thousand dollars for such and such friends so they
Speaker 3: could do this, two hundred dollars for such and such friends,
Speaker 3: so they could do that, such and such straight aids
Speaker 3: on har redport card five hundred here, And I'm like,
Speaker 3: this man gave everything away because in his mind he
Speaker 3: was like, I have enough, Like he had fifteen hundred
Speaker 3: dollars left in his savings account. And I know for
Speaker 3: a fact because I heard him the Sunday before he
Speaker 3: passed away. One of his friends was struggling to buy
Speaker 3: a car, was like, I could put a thousand on it,
Speaker 3: like you know, I got you like, and I'm looking like,
Speaker 3: you have fifteen hundred dollars. Obviously we had, you know,
Speaker 3: he knew we had investments. You know, we had, like
Speaker 3: I said, our joint saving. But when it came to
Speaker 3: the money that he he meta for himself, Drell gave
Speaker 3: everything away because he always felt like he had enough.
Speaker 3: He gave so much of himself away because he always
Speaker 3: is like it's enough, and now it's just whereas I
Speaker 3: like I can tell by where I give from the
Speaker 3: places where I believe that there's enough, you know, And
Speaker 3: to see him give holistically let me know that he
Speaker 3: just was really living this life where he was just
Speaker 3: like I am enough, this is enough. I have more
Speaker 3: than enough to give and share, really giving from a
Speaker 3: place of abundance, where so much I was giving from
Speaker 3: a place and so many of us from a place
Speaker 3: of fear, you know, and like I could just I could,
Speaker 3: I can do this, But I don't know if I
Speaker 3: could do that, you know, that's just enough or I
Speaker 3: have to work extra, extra, extra hard because the millions
Speaker 3: that have already accumulated, even though I don't even spend them,
Speaker 3: can't possibly be enough. And I just was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want to subscribe to that anymore.
Speaker 3: The get it, so just just to get it, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, me and Manny, you know, we had that
Speaker 3: chat the other day about like entrepreneurship, and you know,
Speaker 3: like how much really is enough when it comes to
Speaker 3: making it. I know that if I put my mind
Speaker 3: to it, I can build a company that makes one
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars a year.
Speaker 2: But at what cost?
Speaker 3: Everything costs, especially money, At what cost to grow to
Speaker 3: one hundred million? At what cost to my personal life,
Speaker 3: my spiritual life, my professional life, at what cost? And
Speaker 3: so only you can decide that for yourself. But there's
Speaker 3: just so many lessons that I took away from living
Speaker 3: a more filled and fulfilled life, you know, because I
Speaker 3: look at him and I'm just like, you really.
Speaker 2: Cracked the code, babe, you like you did.
Speaker 3: And sometimes I wonder maybe that's why he's not here,
Speaker 3: because he's like, well, I ate this thing called life.
Speaker 3: I'll see all on the other side, you know, whereas
Speaker 3: I'm just like, wait, so millions are enough.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like this notion in America that six billions
Speaker 1: and billions and being incredibly wealthy and founding your own
Speaker 1: company and revolutionizing some industry, that that is what the
Speaker 1: ultimate success is. And I think for you know, it
Speaker 1: sounds like what you're saying, and what I believe to
Speaker 1: be true too, is that does that is not what
Speaker 1: makes you happy? And fundamentally, like when you when you
Speaker 1: go back to that, like you know, that vision of
Speaker 1: you as a preschool teacher and who you are and
Speaker 1: it being the same as today, I think that's that's
Speaker 1: the key. Can you put yourself in any situation with
Speaker 1: any amount of money and still say that you're content
Speaker 1: and happy. That for me is the that's the mountaintop,
Speaker 1: you know, that's what I'm going for, and it doesn't
Speaker 1: And for me it's of course financial gain is important
Speaker 1: in building wealth because then what can you give back
Speaker 1: and what you know, how can you do it? But
Speaker 1: I want to be in the right mindset so that
Speaker 1: when you know I have those resources, that I'm then
Speaker 1: able to use them in a way that aligns with
Speaker 1: my values and what I feel is important, you know.
Speaker 1: So it all feels good and not like you're being
Speaker 1: pulled in anyone direction that you don't want.
Speaker 3: To be because it's like, if you get this like
Speaker 3: outward success, how will it meet you? Like I wanted
Speaker 3: to meet me healthy, happy whole, because if not, then
Speaker 3: what is it that we're really saying. We see a
Speaker 3: lot of people with a lot of money and there's
Speaker 3: no joy there, you know. So it's like then they
Speaker 3: accumulate more and there's even less joy, And they accumulate
Speaker 3: more and then there's even less joy. So it's like,
Speaker 3: oh man, I want to meet a healthy, happy whole,
Speaker 3: you know. And so yeah, I just I don't, like
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know what that looks like. But
Speaker 3: I'm trying to give myself the space and the grace
Speaker 3: to decide without the say yes because don't let this
Speaker 3: person be mad at you or so yes because you
Speaker 3: said yes last week. I'm the type I would have
Speaker 3: said yes to you ten years ago and be like
Speaker 3: I got to say yes because ten years ago, you know,
Speaker 3: I said I going to do it. It's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 3: you have you know, certainly, you know you try to
Speaker 3: keep your promises, but the biggest promise that you ought
Speaker 3: to be keeping is to yourself, you know. And I
Speaker 3: don't think I ever really believe that anymore, but I'm
Speaker 3: really leaning into that now. For example, like y'all know,
Speaker 3: I have my online school, the Literature Academy. I step
Speaker 3: down as CEO because when I say death is so clarifying.
Speaker 3: I had like a list of things that I wanted
Speaker 3: to do that I was like if first I got
Speaker 3: to do this, and then like I got to make
Speaker 3: sure this and that was like and then one day
Speaker 3: I was just like Tiffany, I've been wanting to step
Speaker 3: down the CEO for some time, but finding a CEO
Speaker 3: and putting the company in position and d d no.
Speaker 3: I just was like, so, I'm not doing this anymore,
Speaker 3: So Tam.
Speaker 2: You're up.
Speaker 3: And she's working with PEP since the beginning of the academy,
Speaker 3: and certainly she's never been a CEO before. But I
Speaker 3: had my business coach, Diane, who has been coaching me
Speaker 3: for the last two years now. He coaches her and
Speaker 3: she and I speak whenever she needs to. But we
Speaker 3: have a standing call every other week, and it's my
Speaker 3: expectation that we will see a dip in revenue this year,
Speaker 3: maybe even next year. But she'll be just fine, you know,
Speaker 3: because the truth of the matter is, you know, and
Speaker 3: I let everyone know. It's either that or we shut
Speaker 3: it down because I'm not doing it anymore.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I love the mission of the Literature Academy and what
Speaker 3: it does, but I don't like being a CEO. I
Speaker 3: like being a teacher. It's not as sexy or as
Speaker 3: fancy or as I'm a CEO. I don't care about that.
Speaker 3: So it's either this or ain't no Literature Academy. They're like,
Speaker 3: we'll do this, so I'm like, yes, I'm sure, and
Speaker 3: that company is very successful, as y'all know, we made
Speaker 3: eight figures in twenty twenty with ten million. We've hit
Speaker 3: our first ten million, and I was like, okay, and
Speaker 3: I will walk away from it. And I just want
Speaker 3: to do the budgeonista. I just want to be a teacher,
Speaker 3: you know, I just want to That's it. And so
Speaker 3: it was also hard to because a budgetista. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm someone where I wanted to hire as many black
Speaker 3: women as possible, and so I did. We had a
Speaker 3: like twenty something women and they were getting good money.
Speaker 3: You know, I would say, you know, maybe one fourth
Speaker 3: six figures and above. But as a result of doing
Speaker 3: them and they were like, you know, awesome, it forced
Speaker 3: me to work at a certain level that I didn't
Speaker 3: get as many breaks as like like I needed to,
Speaker 3: Like you know, I took Fridays off and Wednesday's light,
Speaker 3: but I'm talking about like really not having days where
Speaker 3: or even weeks or even months where I didn't have
Speaker 3: to work, Like I had to work to support the
Speaker 3: people that had hired, who were awesome, and it was hard.
Speaker 3: But I had to let some of them go, not
Speaker 3: because of any faults of their own for the most part,
Speaker 3: but because it was like, who do you get to choose, Tiffany,
Speaker 3: you work yourself to the bone so everyone else can eat,
Speaker 3: or you get to decide you've done enough. That's been
Speaker 3: like the buzzword for me. It's enough, Tiffany. You don't
Speaker 3: owe someone your whole life. And the thing is so crazy.
Speaker 3: They never asked for that. My team wasn't like girl
Speaker 3: hit the track so we could eat. When they found
Speaker 3: out that I wasn't taking me a salary from the
Speaker 3: budgetista so everyone else could get a bigger one, they
Speaker 3: were like, why I over sacrifice And I was like, enough, Tiffany,
Speaker 3: no one is asking you to continue to over sacrifice.
Speaker 3: So we went from like twenty people down to three.
Speaker 3: And I'm one of the three. It's myself, my admin,
Speaker 3: Rose and logan, my content person.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: And when I tell you it's been so awesome that
Speaker 3: like I would say, of the seven days out of
Speaker 3: the week, maybe I work two days.
Speaker 2: This is my only thing today. This is it. I'm
Speaker 2: taping the podcast. That's literally it.
Speaker 3: I went to the post office earlier to just mail
Speaker 3: something off to a friend of mine, but this is
Speaker 3: my and tomorrow I think I have a call in
Speaker 3: the morning, and like it's so crazy. Because when I
Speaker 3: finally realized I don't have to, I thought to myself, well,
Speaker 3: without all these people were going to make less money
Speaker 3: as long as we make enough to just cover Roses
Speaker 3: salary and Logan salary.
Speaker 2: But that wasn't true.
Speaker 3: I came back from my hiatus to almost a million
Speaker 3: dollars worth of business. I'm talking about spokesperson work, contracts,
Speaker 3: speaking engagement contracts, brand and bachelor of contract eight hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars. And I was like, and I'm
Speaker 3: being candid about this because I want you to see
Speaker 3: them the like what happens when you align yourself because
Speaker 3: I had told myself the story that if I slow down,
Speaker 3: it means business also slows down and fails, and that's
Speaker 3: not true. Life was like, yeah, actually, no, you're actually
Speaker 3: doing way less work and surprise, here's almost a million dollars.
Speaker 2: For you when you come back. And I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: what you know?
Speaker 3: So it just is like so many times, you know,
Speaker 3: you tell yourself a thing and you believe it's true,
Speaker 3: and then you lock yourself in the prison of that thought.
Speaker 3: And you know, what I'm learning is that like I
Speaker 3: can step away and business continues. I have done the
Speaker 3: work necessary and required to do, so I can put
Speaker 3: someone else in place and business continues. I can take
Speaker 3: a break and business continues, you know. Like so it's
Speaker 3: just like all these lessons that I'm like learning from myself,
Speaker 3: and it just you know, like that one in particular,
Speaker 3: is like I had told myself all that time, like wait,
Speaker 3: I can really be gone gone. Remember I took those
Speaker 3: like you know, like that four weeks off or whatever,
Speaker 3: that month off, you know, and even that I had
Speaker 3: not really learned the lesson. Now I'm really like, no,
Speaker 3: you can be gone and you can never come back
Speaker 3: to that capacity and still be more than fine. And
Speaker 3: so my one of my mentees is she asked me,
Speaker 3: she said, do you think you couldn't have gotten You
Speaker 3: could have gotten here without the work that you did prior.
Speaker 3: And the truth is no, I'm not going to pretend
Speaker 3: as if you can start off at two days a week.
Speaker 2: That's just not how it looks.
Speaker 1: That.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of planting and the podits you have
Speaker 3: to make.
Speaker 2: And it's only because.
Speaker 3: I've reached the level of mastery in what I do
Speaker 3: that I'm able to now pick from the garden that
Speaker 3: I I've grown I'll never not pick because.
Speaker 2: Of so many seeds that I planted.
Speaker 3: So yes, you might be in your sowing seeds and
Speaker 3: it is a little hectic and crazy and.
Speaker 2: A little overwhelming.
Speaker 3: But the key, and this is Mayday, and I chat
Speaker 3: about this before, is that my garden has been overflowing
Speaker 3: for a few years now, and I was still sowing
Speaker 3: seeds as if I had just started. I had seen
Speaker 3: my goal and I ran past it and just kept running.
Speaker 3: I didn't even know how to stop. I'm like, wait,
Speaker 3: so the goal was like two years ago, we hit it. Okay,
Speaker 3: you want to pay off your parents' house done, student alone,
Speaker 3: deat done, debt free done, no mortgage done, all the
Speaker 3: things done, done done?
Speaker 2: Why are you still running so fast?
Speaker 3: And so like I'm finally finally, finally slowing down, you know,
Speaker 3: and like I hate that it had to take the
Speaker 3: loss of Darrell's life to teach me how to live,
Speaker 3: but sometimes that's how that's how it goes.
Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, well let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of brown ambition. All
Speaker 1: rightba fan, we're back. While you were talking, I kept
Speaker 1: envisioning the p and es in my garden that the
Speaker 1: previous owners of this house planted. And I get to
Speaker 1: every and I'm waiting. I see they're sprouting up right now,
Speaker 1: and it's mid May.
Speaker 2: Around mid May. Every year they.
Speaker 1: Bloom and I just get to enjoy it, and I
Speaker 1: hate it because it's so quick. You know they're there,
Speaker 1: and then they last for a couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: then they're gone. But that whole analogy around sewing and
Speaker 1: planting and like looking but actually getting to sit down
Speaker 1: and look at it and appreciate what you've built. Hell, no,
Speaker 1: you are not an overnight success and you're just you know,
Speaker 1: able to do this. I don't think anyone who's listened
Speaker 1: to the show, you know, could could ever kid themselves
Speaker 1: that you haven't, you know, worked incredibly hard to get
Speaker 1: to where you are now. And I think the message
Speaker 1: there is like, if you're in your like, can you
Speaker 1: say a season of sewing, keep sewing, keep going so
Speaker 1: that when something, you know, whatever the whatever the need is,
Speaker 1: whatever the emergency is, whatever the unknown is, that you
Speaker 1: have thing that you had that foundation to lean on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm incredibly just like proud of
Speaker 1: you and also as much sitting back with wide eyes,
Speaker 1: just wanting to see how you blossom and grow from this,
Speaker 1: because I know it's going to be extraordinary as it
Speaker 1: already has been. I mean, you haven't become you are backish.
Speaker 1: Now do you want to talk about your how you
Speaker 1: approached your new Can you call it a business venture?
Speaker 1: You new Patreon membership community?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Numbers? Now it's so crazy.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about it. Well, tell abroad ambition,
Speaker 1: like what is the community? What was your thought behind it?
Speaker 1: And yeah, what's going on?
Speaker 3: So I said, like I was talking to Mandy and
Speaker 3: I was just like, you know, figuring out like what what?
Speaker 3: Like when I was in Bali, what did I miss?
Speaker 3: And I missed going live. I missed teaching basically, and
Speaker 3: one of the ways that I used to teach like
Speaker 3: a lot is I you know, if you follow me
Speaker 3: on social media, I would go live, especially on Instagram,
Speaker 3: and I missed it so much so that even when
Speaker 3: I was in BALI supposed to like I had taken
Speaker 3: the social media everything hiatus. There were times when I
Speaker 3: was tempted to download Instagram just to go live because
Speaker 3: I would have learned a lesson that day while I
Speaker 3: was at the waterfall or learned a lesson while I
Speaker 3: was like, you know, hiking or whatever, and I wanted
Speaker 3: to share it.
Speaker 2: And I realized, Okay, Tiffany, you really loved teaching.
Speaker 3: But honestly, I dislike social media, and for myself now
Speaker 3: I used to really enjoy it.
Speaker 2: But it got to a place where it's, like I did.
Speaker 3: Social media is like, you know, you're like in this
Speaker 3: movie and you're ready to sit down and people are
Speaker 3: running past you, and you feel like, well, I guess
Speaker 3: I should run too, even though you're tired you want
Speaker 3: to sit down. And so social media kept showing me
Speaker 3: that like, get up, keep going, get up, keep going,
Speaker 3: And it was really it was hard for me to say,
Speaker 3: you don't need to run. I don't know what stage
Speaker 3: those folks are in their race, let them run. But
Speaker 3: it was hard because it was a daily reminder of girl,
Speaker 3: you ain't doing enough, maybe getting lazy. Oh, you're losing
Speaker 3: your touch. And so I was like, so I've been
Speaker 3: pulling myself back from social but I'm like, well, then
Speaker 3: how do I reach my folks and teach like I
Speaker 3: like to without being on social So I thought about
Speaker 3: it like logan, and I like, I said, there's only
Speaker 3: three people let on the team. I was techt the
Speaker 3: telling logan. I said, you know, here's a list of
Speaker 3: like the twenty things that the budgetista does and how
Speaker 3: it makes money. I'm not doing all that spokesperson working
Speaker 3: in Brandon bassador work, which's kind of like one and
Speaker 3: the same that I'll keep speaking engagements. I like speaking,
Speaker 3: and then I want to do something where I get
Speaker 3: to like teach live. Those are the three things I'm
Speaker 3: committed that I like doing.
Speaker 2: What do you want to do? That's what I told her.
Speaker 2: She was like, hmmm, well I like these three things.
Speaker 3: I said, all right, as long as you make your salary,
Speaker 3: I don't, you know, like that's on you.
Speaker 2: And she was like okay.
Speaker 3: So we took our two or three things off the table,
Speaker 3: and so the live thing, I said, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: going to create a Patreon. I had thought about it
Speaker 3: last year, about doing digital mentoring because I've got like
Speaker 3: ten like mentees that I speak to on a regular basis,
Speaker 3: but I really can't add on like you know, as
Speaker 3: many people.
Speaker 2: That ask me.
Speaker 3: And I thought, well, what if I can Instead of
Speaker 3: going live on Instagram, I can go live here on
Speaker 3: Patreon because what I love about Patreon is that once
Speaker 3: I'm done, it's just us.
Speaker 2: It's not the whole world.
Speaker 3: Like Patreon, you get to live in your own bubble
Speaker 3: on your Patreon page.
Speaker 2: And I said, what if I do that?
Speaker 3: And so I went live kind of like where it
Speaker 3: was like my backash live maybe like two weeks ago
Speaker 3: on Instagram and like all my social platforms, just to
Speaker 3: kind of get people an update, like I shared with y'all,
Speaker 3: and I told folks like you know, my Patreon's open.
Speaker 3: The purpose of it is digital mentoring. It's less budget
Speaker 3: needs to more Tiffany Elyche, meaning like we already have
Speaker 3: my literature academy, you already have my social I'm not
Speaker 3: going to teach you how to raise your credit score
Speaker 3: over there.
Speaker 2: We're not budgeting over there. We're not. It's not about debt.
Speaker 3: It's about personal and professional development and for business and
Speaker 3: business and entrepreneurship.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Personal professional development, business entrepreneurship. That is my Patreon. It's
Speaker 3: about like how do you go from here to here
Speaker 3: as a person, but also as a business while you're
Speaker 3: growing your business.
Speaker 2: So it's specifically for that type of woman, especially black women.
Speaker 3: Right, although I don't turn anyone away, but like it
Speaker 3: just know, I'm gonna say sis and if you are
Speaker 3: assists head white man, as long as you don't mind that, hey, Sys,
Speaker 3: you can get it too, you know. And so I said,
Speaker 3: I'm going to launch it, and my goal in my
Speaker 3: head was a thousand people by the end of the year.
Speaker 2: I was like, I think I could do it. I
Speaker 2: think I told me that.
Speaker 3: I was like, do you know, within twenty four hours
Speaker 3: a thousand people signed up?
Speaker 2: Yes. I was like, wait what sorry?
Speaker 1: Soone knowoying how you don't realize.
Speaker 3: And so right now we're at like twelve hundred. It's
Speaker 3: like like eleven ninety three. So about twelve hundred people
Speaker 3: have signed up and it's been great. We did like
Speaker 3: So the thing is that I've sly had clear boundaries
Speaker 3: that I am going to promise one live lesson a month,
Speaker 3: you know, like if you'll be able to watch it
Speaker 3: live and like participate, like I tell you ahead of
Speaker 3: time when I'm going to go, and you know you
Speaker 3: can watch the replay it's posted forever, and like I
Speaker 3: will I will share regularly, like resources and tools and
Speaker 3: the things that I'm using or have used for success,
Speaker 3: whether it's getting you know, writing a New York Times bestseller,
Speaker 3: launching a successful podcast, like hiring firing in business, you know,
Speaker 3: how to hit your quotas, all these types of things
Speaker 3: I've learned in business, being fourteen years in business and
Speaker 3: so yeah, and cause I see a lot of people,
Speaker 3: I'm not here to like shame anyone with their high
Speaker 3: ticket item.
Speaker 2: But for me, I feel like one of.
Speaker 3: The roles that I play in the marketplace is to
Speaker 3: give an accessible amount, you know, so minus just ten
Speaker 3: bucks a month on purpose because although I don't need
Speaker 3: a reason to quantify, but I like to for people
Speaker 3: to understand, like, you know, like why at that price point.
Speaker 3: It's like, one, I want it to be accessible to
Speaker 3: many people as possible. Two, you're not going to stress
Speaker 3: me out for ten bucks a month. I'm like, don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not answer every question individually. No, I'm not jumping
Speaker 3: on the call like you know, Like I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: like if you if you mad, certainly you can withdraw
Speaker 3: your ten dollars. We all right here, sis And you know,
Speaker 3: so even though I say one a month, one live
Speaker 3: a month, the truth is I do more than that.
Speaker 3: But I wanted to give like this is what's guaranteed,
Speaker 3: And I'm really enjoying myself over there. The audience has
Speaker 3: been like you know, my mentees over there have been awesome. Actually,
Speaker 3: our next by the time this comes out, you'll have
Speaker 3: missed it. But our next live is actually on Tuesday,
Speaker 3: because today's Monday. We're taping is we're doing a business
Speaker 3: and an entrepreneur Q and A. And so I'm taking
Speaker 3: questions right now from my mentees, putting them in a spreadsheet,
Speaker 3: seeing like because some questions kind of overlap, and for
Speaker 3: like an hour and a half, I will answer as
Speaker 3: many questions as possible, both live and the ones pre given.
Speaker 2: And so that's our next mentor live session.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited about it because some of the questions
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is a really good one and
Speaker 3: they're gonna.
Speaker 2: Be shocked by the answer.
Speaker 3: How how like what a great tool resources I can
Speaker 3: share And so I mean I'm sharing everything from like
Speaker 3: my contracts to my book proposal, like the one that
Speaker 3: got me nine nine big publishers wanting to sign me
Speaker 3: and that got me my multi six figure.
Speaker 2: Book proposal deal.
Speaker 3: So like yeah, it's just a place where I get
Speaker 3: to share all of my knowledge and so yeah, and
Speaker 3: so I can't believe my sister said, only you within
Speaker 3: twenty four hours to launch a six figure business, because
Speaker 3: you figure one thousand people times ten dollars is ten
Speaker 3: thousand bucks a month, and that's what one twenty a year,
Speaker 3: although patron takes like a percentage. But do you see
Speaker 3: it's crazy because I thought to myself, wow, look at
Speaker 3: the seeds planted that I can share this thing and
Speaker 3: then have a thousand people sign up within twenty four
Speaker 3: hours and you know, make ten thousand dollars a month
Speaker 3: from the rip. But that is the because I first
Speaker 3: I used to tell doctor Green, like, oh, I wish
Speaker 3: maybe I had done things differently. She said, no, you
Speaker 3: don't get to judge past Tiffany. Pass Tiffany is the
Speaker 3: reason why you don't have to work right now. Passtivity
Speaker 3: is the reason why you don't have to worry about financially.
Speaker 3: She did what she had to do, and you're here
Speaker 3: as a result. And I'm like, true, past Tiffany has
Speaker 3: created chilling Tiffany. And so but yeah, if you're in
Speaker 3: you can It's just called mymntor Tiffany dot com. And yeah,
Speaker 3: you can join us over there. It's good fun times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you and Ray for me. You're my team Patreon.
Speaker 1: That's the level of adoration.
Speaker 2: It's you an Ray.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean congratulations and I mean and it's also
Speaker 1: as painful as that big business that I don't want
Speaker 1: to like discount the business decision that you had to
Speaker 1: make and the personal decision you had to make to
Speaker 1: let go of seventeen budgetisto or liverat er you know,
Speaker 1: staff body, And I think for anyone listening like that
Speaker 1: is the that is what happens when you sometimes put
Speaker 1: yourself first. I mean those difficult decisions. You know. I
Speaker 1: coach a lot of women now on how to leave
Speaker 1: work environments, how to quit and move on to a
Speaker 1: better situation for themselves. And the agony and the time
Speaker 1: and the stress and the anxiety over inconveniencing other people
Speaker 1: or doing something that is persue. You know that you
Speaker 1: can perceived to be for you and not for someone else,
Speaker 1: even though I think you know you also gave those
Speaker 1: women an incredible opportunity to work for a black female
Speaker 1: CEO and to watch from the inside a business like
Speaker 1: that go grow and thrive. I can't even say I
Speaker 1: got to experience that through my career, I never got
Speaker 1: to work for a black female CEO, and how many
Speaker 1: of us don't write, So that takes nothing away from
Speaker 1: the job experience. You gave them the opportunities to advance
Speaker 1: the safe community, the Unicorn Squad, like those connections that
Speaker 1: they've made, and I think when we look at it
Speaker 1: that way, and I mean I encourage anyone to look
Speaker 1: at it that way, it is it's all positive and
Speaker 1: even if it had to end at this moment in time,
Speaker 1: it takes nothing away from the value you know that
Speaker 1: you starting your business from scratch gave to them, and
Speaker 1: also the message that now you can move forward with
Speaker 1: clarity and do this new community in the way that
Speaker 1: you want to and feel good about it without having
Speaker 1: to keep something else running because you feel some sort
Speaker 1: of loyalty or like you said, like obligation to that
Speaker 1: you can be free and lighter and be light and
Speaker 1: chill Chill Tiffany.
Speaker 2: I like Chill Tiffany. I know, I like her.
Speaker 1: It feels like I get to know you all over
Speaker 1: again in a way, but it's not what life is.
Speaker 1: I feel like we change, we do. It's impossible for
Speaker 1: you to not change after going through what you've been through. Wow,
Speaker 1: all right my mentor Tiffany, So don't email her anymore
Speaker 1: if you get your ten dollars ready.
Speaker 3: Yes, like us over there we have Honestly, I'm really
Speaker 3: that is a happy place for me. I'm just like,
Speaker 3: I love it there. I'm there all the time, you know,
Speaker 3: just like you know, like I said, I don't be
Speaker 3: answering every question, but I read out and I'm like
Speaker 3: I'll answer that.
Speaker 2: I'm live.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's you Rose and Logan. Dang.
Speaker 2: I know it's awesome though, because we don't do I
Speaker 2: hate meetings, but I'm not gonna lie I hate meetings.
Speaker 2: We don't do meetings like I'm like I told Logan,
Speaker 2: if you push myself on my on my calendar, I
Speaker 2: better see a power point. It better be that you like.
Speaker 1: Yes, there, it's funny how you coming well. I know,
Speaker 1: back lowercase b back ish to Brian, ambition understood, message received.
Speaker 1: But when you know, we used to have like a
Speaker 1: monthly meeting with our network that was always like I
Speaker 1: could never really find the right time for it, never
Speaker 1: really to be that important, but it was always on
Speaker 1: the calendar and when you were coming back and it
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, let's look at the time for this
Speaker 1: meeting and having you. I'm like, is this worth Tiffany's
Speaker 1: Is it? If it's not worth Tiffany's time, let's not
Speaker 1: do it, you know what I mean? Like, and I
Speaker 1: just knew this does not have to be a meeting.
Speaker 1: It has to be an email. It's fine, but I
Speaker 1: needed you to sort of like to think of other
Speaker 1: than myself because if I was honest, it wasn't worth
Speaker 1: anyone's time really to happen.
Speaker 3: It could be a message or a quick call or
Speaker 3: because I'm like, lookan, I can be a target right now?
Speaker 3: Why you put this on a calendar because now I'm
Speaker 3: sitting in front of my computer like girl, like cause
Speaker 3: you know, because most.
Speaker 2: Of times it's like because I've want one people who.
Speaker 3: I hire, I actually like them, you know, and so
Speaker 3: like logan and I will chit chat and I could
Speaker 3: be a target like ooh, girl, did you know me?
Speaker 2: Ask jeez? Let me see send me a picture.
Speaker 3: So like I was saying about today's post, you know,
Speaker 3: like i'd rather I when I say I hate meetings,
Speaker 3: I hate formal meetings, but no informally quick phone call
Speaker 3: we talk. I check up on you, how's your mom,
Speaker 3: how's your You know, I loved, I loved connecting, and
Speaker 3: so I just realized, so we don't do that. The
Speaker 3: only standing meeting I really have is Tamra because I
Speaker 3: want to make sure that she has the support she needs.
Speaker 3: And my finance person I meet with her once a
Speaker 3: month just to go over the monthly P and L
Speaker 3: statement and how things are going.
Speaker 2: But the truth is, like I do quick.
Speaker 3: Like I called my finance person this morning, Georgia, and
Speaker 3: I said, hey, for Patreon, you know the money is
Speaker 3: in there. Should we should we have it connected the
Speaker 3: paypaler strike. I said, can you do a financial analysis
Speaker 3: to see where we get the most because each of
Speaker 3: them takes their own kind of fees and where you know,
Speaker 3: And she was like, okay, I was a five minute
Speaker 3: call versus me because before it was let me get
Speaker 3: on Tiffany's calendar to do that. No, you know, like
Speaker 3: text me real quick. It might be just a quick yes,
Speaker 3: no maybe. And so like I love the fact that
Speaker 3: we don't. I don't have standing meetings with Rose.
Speaker 2: Or Logan because also one of the lessons that I
Speaker 2: learned in business is that if I have to run
Speaker 2: behind you, then I already know you're not right for
Speaker 2: that position, meaning like you know, if I have to, oh,
Speaker 2: let me check, like I don't when I tell you
Speaker 2: how little I'm in my inbox now. And I realized
Speaker 2: that I was in my inbox a lot before because
Speaker 2: the admins I had before, although there were great folks,
Speaker 2: they just weren't the right person for that job.
Speaker 3: So I always have to like double check to make
Speaker 3: sure nothing slipped through. With Rose, don't I know that
Speaker 3: if it's important and she doesn't know what to do,
Speaker 3: she'll let me know, you know. And she's awesome at
Speaker 3: what she does. I mean, like everything from sending flowers
Speaker 3: to my mom for Mother's Day to I had her
Speaker 3: negotiate our first contract, like a speaking engagement that didn't
Speaker 3: want to pay me my full amount, and I knew
Speaker 3: if I got on the call then I would close
Speaker 3: the deal, because you know, I get on the call,
Speaker 3: they're like, oh yeah, let me say, I'm like, give
Speaker 3: me my money, and they're like okay.
Speaker 2: But I said, Rose, you don't negotiates. She was like me.
Speaker 2: I was like, she said, but what if I don't
Speaker 2: get it?
Speaker 3: I said, so, so I said, one we made our
Speaker 3: quoter for the year. Already I had a number in
Speaker 3: mind that I wanted to make that everybody got paid well,
Speaker 3: including me for once, and I said, we already made
Speaker 3: that number. So worst case scenario, they say kick rocks,
Speaker 3: and then they kick rocks and we keep it moving.
Speaker 3: So I told her exactly what to say. I told
Speaker 3: her what they were likely to say and the motivation
Speaker 3: behind it, and she said everything. And they went from
Speaker 3: asking us to give them a discount to saying, we
Speaker 3: found the money. We can't wait to work with you.
Speaker 3: She was so excited, but now she's empowered. I'm like, girl,
Speaker 3: because I'm not trying to get on another damn meeting
Speaker 3: if I don't have to, like, let Rose do it,
Speaker 3: and so like girl like cause I'm like, yo, I
Speaker 3: want to tell you I'd be walking three hours a
Speaker 3: day and listen to my audible. I'm like, that's my day.
Speaker 3: Like today after this, I'm like, if it was raining outside,
Speaker 3: that's what I'll do next. Maybe I'll do laundry today,
Speaker 3: you know. I'm just like, I don't know. Maybe I'll
Speaker 3: like like go hang on my sister because the kids
Speaker 3: should be back from school soon, and maybe I'll go
Speaker 3: play with the crazies, like that's my niece and my nephew.
Speaker 3: That's what I call them, and so like it just
Speaker 3: this is how I want life to go. One where
Speaker 3: it's just like you know, maybe I'll call one of
Speaker 3: my mentees and pour into them and so like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I just I'm excited about this this shift. But yeah,
Speaker 3: this is like you know, but it does feel good
Speaker 3: to be back here, Like I I'm like eager to
Speaker 3: see like what it all shakes out to be, especially
Speaker 3: now that we're Webby Award winners.
Speaker 2: You see us we say that.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, yeah, well yes I'm social,
Speaker 1: but not officially.
Speaker 2: Yes, not here, thank you all.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he see and also listen brown, ambition is
Speaker 1: a garden that we sowed seven years ago for me.
Speaker 1: It's ambition has sewn like we sew those sees so
Speaker 1: many years ago. Seven years now. We've been doing this
Speaker 1: a long time. We're like geriatric podcasters almost. I had
Speaker 1: a very frustrating phone call, my first frustrating phone call
Speaker 1: with a coaching client. I've coached two hundred women since
Speaker 1: last July. It's been phenomenal this journey. And and I've
Speaker 1: yet I had yet to have an interaction with one
Speaker 1: where it was like just not the right fit, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean in this particular one, you know,
Speaker 1: someone who was starting a podcast and and I was
Speaker 1: and had asked me for feedback and I and I
Speaker 1: was giving it. And the resistance to the notion of
Speaker 1: organic audience growth and that it takes time and it
Speaker 1: takes consistency and showing up and there's no I had
Speaker 1: no secret tricks. If you want my advice and how
Speaker 1: to build a podcast, I got. I got no secret
Speaker 1: tricks in terms of, oh, pay this exact amount in
Speaker 1: ads or you know, do this amount of promotion. There's
Speaker 1: no tricks we tip and I have shown up, you know,
Speaker 1: for the most part, every week for seven years and
Speaker 1: created content that people enjoyed and kept doing it and
Speaker 1: kept doing it. And I think what is great about
Speaker 1: the whole award situation is it's nice. Let's not kid around,
Speaker 1: like it's nice to get recognized and about damn time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Okay, Plutus Awards, where the
Speaker 1: hell y'all at? We keep getting a nominated and never went.
Speaker 1: But anyway, like there's there's and it feels it feels
Speaker 1: nice and gratifying to have that recognition. But Tip and I,
Speaker 1: we haven't done this show for that. It was always,
Speaker 1: you know, to make ourselves and our audience feel good.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's why we continue showing up.
Speaker 1: If you're showing up for the awards and for the
Speaker 1: numbers and for the sponsorships and things like that, what
Speaker 1: an empty, unfulfilling way to approach it anyway. And I
Speaker 1: think that it was good to have that kind of
Speaker 1: awkward interaction because it reinforced for me why there's not
Speaker 1: going to be another broad I aint gotta worry, you know,
Speaker 1: there's not another Brown ambition because we get it. I
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, why we're here
Speaker 1: and what we're doing it for and take away the
Speaker 1: awards and we're still showing up, right, So thank y'all,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for voting. Thank you dream Catchers,
Speaker 1: thank you VA Fan, thank you Logan, thank you Amber
Speaker 1: on our social team at VA for promoting it. Yeah
Speaker 1: it feels damn good. Do we get a trophy or something?
Speaker 1: I don't actually know what happens now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to ask because we got not just
Speaker 3: like the people's choice, but the judges too, which is like, oh,
Speaker 3: we went on BOLLS because you know, just like for
Speaker 3: full clarity that that was amazing that it was like,
Speaker 3: oh wow, y'all voted and we won, but also the judges.
Speaker 2: We got an award from the judges, which is like.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's not often that you can win
Speaker 3: on both sides of the aisle, which is like the
Speaker 3: people love you, but then like you know, the powers
Speaker 3: that be, So it's like we out.
Speaker 1: Here, we out here, We've been out here and even
Speaker 1: through and y'all have stayed so loyal and you know,
Speaker 1: the show has grown this past year. And I think
Speaker 1: for there was a time, you know, Tiffany after Darrell
Speaker 1: had passed or even I had no idea what the
Speaker 1: future of Brown Ambition was and I had made my
Speaker 1: peace with it. I'm like, okay, you know, this was
Speaker 1: an amazing journey. It's me and Tiffany or bust, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I didn't know what it
Speaker 1: would be like doing it or trying to do it solo,
Speaker 1: and it y'all have shown up like and continue to
Speaker 1: show up, and you know, I think that's a beautiful
Speaker 1: testament to that, you know, the like the relationships that
Speaker 1: we've built with our audience and you guys.
Speaker 3: It's just like you've grown, you know, from like this
Speaker 3: corporate badass to like this entrepreneur like you know, you're
Speaker 3: sorry and now you're like this like go to influencer.
Speaker 3: So it's like you got a chance to like flex
Speaker 3: your chops. You know, I don't even know if that's worried.
Speaker 3: You know, like hone, your chops flex yours either way,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm so my dad's daughter.
Speaker 3: He always mixes up all metaphors and like simply I'm
Speaker 3: like flex for chops. I'm sure that's not the word,
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, you really got a chance,
Speaker 3: Like I love to see how you have stepped in
Speaker 3: to this space and are like shine and shining, and
Speaker 3: it's just like, you know, in only one year, that's incredible.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know you look at it like wow,
Speaker 3: like girl, dude, any idea what I was doing year one?
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, which I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: I get it. It's fine, I know, it's yeah. I'm
Speaker 1: going to do a lot more reflecting and coming up
Speaker 1: on my one year anniversary in one month of establishing
Speaker 1: my LLC, and it's hard to wrap my head around
Speaker 1: it too, But I got to get some reflection and
Speaker 1: gratitude affirmations in my head real quick, because the anxiety started.
Speaker 1: Anxiety and doubt dog, my ugly doubt dog that kind
Speaker 1: of like sits on my desk and yeah, sent me
Speaker 1: every once in a while. It's been coming back, and
Speaker 1: it's more of that mindset work that I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do now, and just like, appreciate what you have done.
Speaker 1: Of Course I wasn't replacing my corporate salary in a year,
Speaker 1: you know, but I've done, I've done. Okay, I've done.
Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, Nanny's being.
Speaker 3: She's being humble because first of all, her corporateality wasn't
Speaker 3: she was making surgeon money. Okay, I'm not try to
Speaker 3: put a business out here, but it's not like she
Speaker 3: had a regular corporateality. So of course she's not replacing
Speaker 3: that old, big old paycheck in one year. And then
Speaker 3: on top of that, she's done really well. Like first year,
Speaker 3: I made fifteen thousand gross, take home five thousand. I'm
Speaker 3: laugh because I was living off of French fries and
Speaker 3: meanwhile I was a whole thirty one Okay, it what
Speaker 3: was it?
Speaker 2: Like, well, that's because she were nineteen. No, I was
Speaker 2: a grown lady.
Speaker 3: And so year two I think I made thirty five thousand,
Speaker 3: year three fifty. Then year four I think I made
Speaker 3: like seventy five, then one fifty, and then it you know,
Speaker 3: like success is is cumulative. It layers on top of
Speaker 3: each other. And so you have put in the work
Speaker 3: and so you are like, yeah, you are doing literally
Speaker 3: ten times better than I was when I first started.
Speaker 2: And so I'm just really proud of you because it's
Speaker 2: only going to grow.
Speaker 3: So because and this is not just for Mandy but
Speaker 3: for everyone, Like you don't have to work on being
Speaker 3: more yourself, like Mandy is a hard worker and smart.
Speaker 3: That part is the easy part. It's like you ain't
Speaker 3: got to work on that, girl, We get it.
Speaker 2: You're smart your heart, Like at any moment of time,
Speaker 2: if you know, let's just say you had a week,
Speaker 2: month or whatever, you know, you could do you know,
Speaker 2: financial editing on the side and make the coin. You
Speaker 2: need to make sure that the family's fine, so that
Speaker 2: part is secured.
Speaker 3: It's really the other part that you said about the anxiety,
Speaker 3: the am I good enough?
Speaker 2: Am I?
Speaker 3: That if you master that part of you, Mandy, Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, you will be unstoppable.
Speaker 2: So many of us.
Speaker 3: Work on the parts of ourselves that are already developed,
Speaker 3: and then we're like, you know, we're like a baby
Speaker 3: in this other part. But it's like, really, success is
Speaker 3: self mastery. Self mastery. Do you know how to have
Speaker 3: the hard conversations? Have you stopped people pleasing? Have you
Speaker 3: looked in the mirror and said, hey, I am good enough.
Speaker 3: Do you take your mistakes personally and you have you
Speaker 3: learned how to stop doing it?
Speaker 2: That's self mastery. If you can do that, then it
Speaker 2: opens the door and unlocks everything else.
Speaker 3: Like I so much of Like I could have been
Speaker 3: much more successful in business if I worked on like,
Speaker 3: you know, not needing their approval of others because it
Speaker 3: forced me needing their approval, had me hire people who,
Speaker 3: you know, weren't always the nicest because I was.
Speaker 2: Like, well, I don't want her to be mad at me.
Speaker 2: Da da da, Oh my god, girl.
Speaker 3: If I could have been like, actually you can go,
Speaker 3: I could have grown faster. You know, if I had
Speaker 3: self mastery and you know, like being more assertive, you know,
Speaker 3: I could have gotten more money from brands that I
Speaker 3: know we're trying to just plain me.
Speaker 2: But do you see when you master that, that other
Speaker 2: stuff becomes easy?
Speaker 3: And so like, yeah, I tell that to my mentees
Speaker 3: all the time because I always wanted like tricks and
Speaker 3: tips about marketing and and you know, like scaling and
Speaker 3: all that stuff, and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonn show
Speaker 3: you that stuff, but it's not going to be as
Speaker 3: effective until you master these internal struggles within you, because
Speaker 3: then it's gasoline on the fire of those external things
Speaker 3: because most people don't work on those internal things.
Speaker 2: You do that, you know, Sky is the mother at
Speaker 2: the limit.
Speaker 1: I get that, and for me, it's a daily There's
Speaker 1: days when I got it and there's days when I don't,
Speaker 1: and I think I'm making peace with the days that
Speaker 1: I don't, and realizing as someone who deals with like
Speaker 1: clinical depression, especially after having my son, you I made
Speaker 1: peace with like there are going I'm there's going to
Speaker 1: be lulls, Like there's going to be times when the
Speaker 1: but then what are your support systems and what are
Speaker 1: your you know, what are your what levers can you
Speaker 1: pull to get yourself through it? Because there's happiness and
Speaker 1: there's you're going to get back to that place of strength,
Speaker 1: you know, on the other side of it, and going
Speaker 1: with those flows has really really helped me as an entrepreneur.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how I had set myself up for
Speaker 1: success in that way, already working on so much mindfulness
Speaker 1: around anxiety and depression and the you know, in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty after having my son and dealing with that, because
Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur it's the same thing. It's like, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I wasn't gonna be able
Speaker 1: to control my child and fix him as I was
Speaker 1: trying to do through my anxiety, and as a business owner,
Speaker 1: I've had to make peace with you know, there may
Speaker 1: be things that fall through. It may not work out
Speaker 1: how I always envisioned it. I may you know, screw
Speaker 1: up something or could it on this better or whatever,
Speaker 1: But Okay, that's the thing that's happened, and you've got
Speaker 1: to move through it and learn from it and do
Speaker 1: better the next time and don't put so much damn
Speaker 1: pressure to have everything perfect. And like you said, sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm a lot easier about easier on myself about my
Speaker 1: mistakes than even other people. And I'm like, damn, almost
Speaker 1: be hard on yourselves. Like I just made a mistake.
Speaker 1: It's not that big of a deal. You know, we
Speaker 1: all make mistakes, but you're right, it's that mindset. It's
Speaker 1: a mindset mastery. And who's other Who are the other
Speaker 1: voices that influence I'm going to allow into my little
Speaker 1: protective into my little bubble, and what voices are there.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that your voice is back in the mix.
Speaker 1: I have to say that, Yeah, well.
Speaker 2: Welcome back is yes.
Speaker 3: If you guys, I mean honestly hopefully this is this
Speaker 3: is not just for y'all, like if you're like, if
Speaker 3: you have not invited somebody to listen. Tobout Ambition Evans
Speaker 3: is a really great episode for them to hop on
Speaker 3: in because I feel like there's going to be a
Speaker 3: message for so many people here about what it looks
Speaker 3: like to master yourself but also to to like to
Speaker 3: find enough in being okay with that. So we welcome you,
Speaker 3: to welcome your bestie, work mom, even your work dad.
Speaker 2: He can listen to.
Speaker 1: We couldn't we couldn't not tape this show seven years ago.
Speaker 1: We weren't here, you know what I mean, Like we've
Speaker 1: grown and matured in such like extraordinary ways. The show
Speaker 1: is never the same and for those of you, I
Speaker 1: hear them all the time on like dming me. I
Speaker 1: just started listening. I'm starting at the beginning. I'm like
Speaker 1: you about to go on a journey. So you think
Speaker 1: you're talking to twenty fifteen Mandy. Now how.
Speaker 2: Many different animal Yes? Oh my gosh, what.
Speaker 1: A privilege, What a freaking privilege. And this also feels
Speaker 1: like a reset for what does even brown ambition mean.
Speaker 1: It's not just accumulating wealth for the sake of it,
Speaker 1: It's really not. I still love our show title because
Speaker 1: it gives room for that. But yeah, if I could,
Speaker 1: if I could define brown ambition today versus what I
Speaker 1: thought of it seven years ago, it is the understanding
Speaker 1: that you can. It's there's nothing wrong with wanting more
Speaker 1: and wanting to achieve things, you know, if they matter
Speaker 1: to you. But it's also about understanding that as especially
Speaker 1: black and brown people, and our listeners are largely black women,
Speaker 1: we have to take care of ourselves along the way
Speaker 1: so that data, you know, that ambition actually leads to
Speaker 1: happiness and not just more misery. We deal with enough
Speaker 1: of that shit waking up, you know every day. That's
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. I think, and I'm proud to be
Speaker 1: a part of brown.
Speaker 2: Ambition needs to me. It's like.
Speaker 3: Seeking health, happiness, and wholeness and peace in this brown skin.
Speaker 3: So whatever that looks like for you, And so like
Speaker 3: the ambition part is really like, you know, working toward that,
Speaker 3: you know, the holistic version of yourself that does include
Speaker 3: money and finance also because you know, we're we live
Speaker 3: here in the real world.
Speaker 2: You know. But it doesn't it doesn't exclude the other
Speaker 2: parts because they're just equally as important.
Speaker 1: So absolutely, well we did it.
Speaker 2: We did it. Yeah, well, no, we didn't do Brown Break,
Speaker 2: Brown Boost. I think they'll forgive us for a long show,
Speaker 2: for this backshow.
Speaker 1: Oh please, this is gonna be one hundred percent people
Speaker 1: watch them and listen to the entire show through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to like dust off my brown booth, Brown Boost,
Speaker 1: Brown Break muscle. I don't know what that even is anymore.
Speaker 2: I forget. We used to have like a song, but
Speaker 2: we don't think. We don't figure it out. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: don't figure it out.
Speaker 1: All right, it will be right back with Brown Boost,
Speaker 1: Brown Break. All right, bea fan. We're back, We're black,
Speaker 1: We're brown.
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, since it was a pretty long shot. I'm
Speaker 3: just going to do just a real quick brown boost
Speaker 3: to asking for help. You know, sometimes it's really hard,
Speaker 3: especially for us brown folks, to allow people to look
Speaker 3: after themselves. When I when I went to Bali, I
Speaker 3: thought to myself, I'm here to learn how to take
Speaker 3: better care of myself self care, you know, self self,
Speaker 3: self self care, you know that's that word self self.
Speaker 3: But what I realized because the Bolanese are known for
Speaker 3: their kindness that is non transactional. It's not inexpecting, you know,
Speaker 3: they don't tipping is not this huge thing. And people
Speaker 3: are literally not just kind to you as a tourist,
Speaker 3: but kind to each other. And I thought to myself,
Speaker 3: it like it took me almost a whole trip to realize, Oh,
Speaker 3: one of the lessons I'm here to learn is not
Speaker 3: how to take care of myself, but how to allow
Speaker 3: others to take care of me. Because like, like literally
Speaker 3: like I had like a woman would come every every
Speaker 3: other day and she would take my laundry or they
Speaker 3: would come and clean because I'd read to the villa
Speaker 3: and so I found myself cleaning and she was like
Speaker 3: after like the fourth time, she was like stop, I'm like.
Speaker 2: No, but I feel back, so I don't want you know,
Speaker 2: She's like, no, this is Tiffany.
Speaker 3: You are a blessing. For two years we've had no tourist.
Speaker 3: They've been they were shut down during the pandemic. For
Speaker 3: two years, we've had no tourists. The fact that you're
Speaker 3: here and I can clean the villa is a blessing
Speaker 3: to me and my family. Like, you're doing me a
Speaker 3: disservice by cleaning, because if you do that, then the
Speaker 3: villa owners gonna be like, well, we don't need you.
Speaker 3: So I learned for me to be like Tiffany, like
Speaker 3: allowing people to take care of you is one of
Speaker 3: the best gifts that not only can you could give yourself,
Speaker 3: but to give to other people. I didn't realize that
Speaker 3: my friends who wanted to lean in and help me
Speaker 3: through this time, blocking them wasn't I wasn't shielding them
Speaker 3: from anything. I was actually making life harder for them
Speaker 3: as well. And so like asking for help and allowing
Speaker 3: people to help you, that is my brown boost that
Speaker 3: you are are deserving of allowing people to lean in
Speaker 3: and to look after you. And so don't don't be
Speaker 3: afraid to ask for help.
Speaker 1: So does that mean, you'd like to order another dozen
Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookies because bringing.
Speaker 2: Them cookies, I'm gonna lie. They were so me And
Speaker 2: Alyssa she's like, Maddie, why chocoatip cookies? Like we have
Speaker 2: been dogging those Dagon cookies. They were just amazing. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, manby no more, Okay a little bit.
Speaker 1: I'll put you down for another order. It's been a while, Okay,
Speaker 1: only round twice. I'm gonna do a boost. I would
Speaker 1: love to boost Mandy money Makers. I just opened applications
Speaker 1: for my third cohort. I can't believe in January this
Speaker 1: was an idea that didn't even really exist, and now
Speaker 1: I am about to welcome my third cohort of Mandy
Speaker 1: money Makers. So if you want to join the June cohort,
Speaker 1: you can go to Mandy money dot com and apply.
Speaker 1: You know, when I approached Mandy money Makers, I thought,
Speaker 1: let's make this small. I didn't want to create a
Speaker 1: business where I felt like I couldn't really connect to people.
Speaker 1: So as I'm figuring things out, at least in my
Speaker 1: first year, I was like, I want to do small
Speaker 1: group coaching sessions and I want there to be magic
Speaker 1: in the air. I want people to come, women to
Speaker 1: come and to feel like they are learning every day
Speaker 1: from me but also from one another. And it's just
Speaker 1: been this largely incredible journey. So my second cohort is
Speaker 1: about to graduate, my second well cohort in Many money Makers,
Speaker 1: and I'm ready. I decided I'm going to start in June.
Speaker 1: So mandimoney dot com to apply and I need to apply.
Speaker 1: Write words in your application. Sorry, what how many people
Speaker 1: are you taking on?
Speaker 2: What's the match?
Speaker 1: I'm maxing it out at forty. So my first cohort
Speaker 1: was about twenty five, second one is about twenty and
Speaker 1: I wanted them to stay small, but I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna experiment going a little bit bigger this
Speaker 1: time and just see how that feels. This is all
Speaker 1: an experiment, and I'm just kind of opening myself up
Speaker 1: to Okay, let's see how this feels. Anything over fifty
Speaker 1: starts to feel I just don't know if we would
Speaker 1: ever have the personal connections that we're having with one another.
Speaker 1: And then each time Mandy money Makers graduate from the program,
Speaker 1: you get inducted into or you get the option to
Speaker 1: continue in the alumni community. And I have ongoing events.
Speaker 1: We just had Janice Torres Rodriguez from Joky Dinero was
Speaker 1: our first guest speaker at our alumni event, and oh god,
Speaker 1: I fucking love her.
Speaker 2: She's amazing.
Speaker 1: And she talked a lot about mindset too, because you
Speaker 1: think that she started that brand overnight and she's a success. No,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's been, it's been wonderful. Yeah, so I'm
Speaker 1: really proud of that. I can't believe it's my third cohort.
Speaker 2: God, Mandy, look at that. Yeah, they tried to marry you,
Speaker 2: but they didn't know you as a seed. Let's not
Speaker 2: talk about the.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's phenomenal. And June's also going to be
Speaker 1: my one year entrepreneur versary. I don't know what I'm
Speaker 1: going to do, but I'm gonna freaking acknowledge it. I'm
Speaker 1: going to freaking acknowledge it.
Speaker 2: Because you deserve. Like, I'm really proud of you, And.
Speaker 1: We never got to say congratulations to you either on
Speaker 1: your amazing Like we all know you're a New York
Speaker 1: Times bestselling author, but right before you took your hiatus,
Speaker 1: you were about to cross over one hundred thousand books sold.
Speaker 3: Mark right, No, even no before I don't even know
Speaker 3: why Penguin said that. I think they were talking about hardcover,
Speaker 3: but in books total, I was already over one hundred,
Speaker 3: meaning like ebooks as well as as well as Kindle
Speaker 3: and audio. So now I want to say we're at
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty one thousand books sold, and just
Speaker 3: for context, like twenty five thousand they consider good, fifty
Speaker 3: they considered great, one hundred thousand they consider I'm talking
Speaker 3: about in the lifetime and so to have done that
Speaker 3: with Unicorn No.
Speaker 1: Twenty five, I've heard ten is what you can hope.
Speaker 1: Ten thousand is what a really good debut, And I've
Speaker 1: heard that from someone who works on nonhait.
Speaker 2: I mean with the first year, you mean within the
Speaker 2: first week.
Speaker 1: In the first year, like ten k, ten k, that's like,
Speaker 1: that's like, here's what you can expect. Ten k is good,
Speaker 1: Like that's a reasonable goal to make. So you're like
Speaker 1: fifteen X. Everyone probably has their own, you know, their
Speaker 1: own subjective opinions about what's a good debut and what's not,
Speaker 1: but we can all objectively agree that's phenomenal.
Speaker 3: And then they told me that, like one thing I
Speaker 3: did learn is that like in twenty twenty one, Giga
Speaker 3: with Money was the number one selling new personal finance
Speaker 3: book of the year. Like I was like for Penguin,
Speaker 3: They're like, no, for all personal finance books that were
Speaker 3: categorized as such that year that launched in twenty twenty,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, you're sold more than any of them.
Speaker 3: I'm like, but like some of these big names came out,
Speaker 3: They're like, I know, just so that just that's just incredible,
Speaker 3: you know, like just letting that like settle for me,
Speaker 3: because sometimes you get like onto the next don't you know.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that anymore. So I'm just like, or
Speaker 3: how I used to call myself baby millionaire. I member,
Speaker 3: I used to say that, and I'm like, oh, tyfinitally,
Speaker 3: stop with the bullshit. You're a fucking millionaire. It's fine,
Speaker 3: it's happened. I just didn't want to acknowledge. I felt
Speaker 3: like awkward and bad and I felt bad, and it's like, no,
Speaker 3: it's okay to acknowledge the good work you've put in.
Speaker 3: And this book is like, yeah, I'm really proud of it. Yes,
Speaker 3: for the numbers that's hit, but what I really really
Speaker 3: really am proud of how many people come up to
Speaker 3: me and said this was really helpful. Like I was
Speaker 3: at like I was someone out last night and this
Speaker 3: guy came up to me. He said, I got my
Speaker 3: girlfriend your book for her birthday. And he showed me
Speaker 3: a picture of how he put it in a basket
Speaker 3: with like a bottle of wine and so she can
Speaker 3: have like a zen night. And he was like, because
Speaker 3: I got it for myself at first, and it was
Speaker 3: so helpful so many men. That's what shocked me too
Speaker 3: about it. Like I'm like, really, because you know it
Speaker 3: wasn't it's not anti man, not at all.
Speaker 2: But in the book, you know, my audience is largely women.
Speaker 2: So I say, sis, and girl get that dress from Target,
Speaker 2: Like I say that, and so yeah, it's just amazing.
Speaker 2: I'm a look at us girl and girl continued success.
Speaker 2: You pave in them way, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're literally and more women of color will
Speaker 1: get book deals because of the success of that book.
Speaker 1: So that, I mean, if you need someone to remind
Speaker 1: you how fucking amazing it is, just talked to me.
Speaker 2: Thanks, because I know.
Speaker 1: For a fact the proposed like the success of future
Speaker 1: black female authors who want to write personal finance books,
Speaker 1: Your book is going to be in every single proposal
Speaker 1: as someone as an example of, because that's part of
Speaker 1: the proposal is where you have to talk about the
Speaker 1: market and who else is out there. The success of
Speaker 1: your book is going to make publishers less afraid to
Speaker 1: work with women of color and put them on the title,
Speaker 1: put them on the cover. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's incredibly a proposal grew. You got to be what
Speaker 2: you meant anyway, So we're gonna post it, but I'm
Speaker 2: give you a copy.
Speaker 1: All right, Tiff, Well that is the show, you guys,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. As Tiff said, tell
Speaker 1: a friend, tell a friend, tell a friend, take a screenshot,
Speaker 1: tag us in this post, tell us how excited you
Speaker 1: are to see Tiffany back, and of course all positive
Speaker 1: love and thoughts to Tiffany. Don't or I guess if
Speaker 1: you can't, you know, reach out to Tiffany on ig anymore,
Speaker 1: say hi, logan.
Speaker 2: A little bit, but yeah, largely logan, but yeah I
Speaker 2: am the every once in a while, once we got
Speaker 2: poked my head in and like, or she'll send me
Speaker 2: a screenshot if you guys, send me something nice, like
Speaker 2: you know, she's like, look, isn't this sweet? I'm like
Speaker 2: it is. Tell them I said hi.
Speaker 1: And what's the website again?
Speaker 2: For the Patreon It's my mentor Tiffany dot.
Speaker 1: Com, My mentor Tiffany dot com. All right, beautiful, that's it.
Speaker 2: We did it. Yeah, we did it.
Speaker 1: Joe, Hey, ba fan. We could not do this show
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