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Speaker 1: Hey, ba Fam, I don't even know what to say

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Speaker 1: exactly and how to prepare you guys for today's show

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Speaker 1: other than that I am so freaking happy to see

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Speaker 1: and I know that y'all have been keeping Tiffany and

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Speaker 1: her way, and we have been patient and given tiff

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Speaker 1: all the time that she needed to heal and to

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Speaker 1: be ready to come back. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: say Tiff, like, I'm so grateful to have you back,

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Speaker 1: and it feels very surreal to have you back. But

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Speaker 1: I'm so ready to be back to broad ambition as

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Speaker 1: we envisioned it, which was the two of us, you know,

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Speaker 1: bouncing off one another and welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Well, I say back ish, back ish to my life. Thanks.

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Speaker 3: It feels, I guess, a little nerve racking and good

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Speaker 3: I'm still resetting what it looks like, what the new back.

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Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Brown's New Black or Orange is

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Speaker 3: the new back. You know, I don't know what that

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Speaker 3: things I'm sure who knows you know, you might not

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Speaker 3: for those of you who listening might not know. My

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Speaker 3: husband passed away about five months ago, and so I

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Speaker 3: took obviously time away fortunate and that I have created

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Speaker 3: I don't have to work anymore. The truth is I

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Speaker 3: now I'm really conscious that, you know, I don't have

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Speaker 3: it's like, oh, the things I've been teaching y'all through

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Speaker 3: the budgetiest to like. I mean, I knew that it

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Speaker 3: changing information because you know, it put me be in

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Speaker 3: I want life to look like? I'm still figuring that

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Speaker 3: I'm always wearing my target's best. Literally, this t shirts

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Speaker 3: So it's not that it was more so that, like

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Speaker 3: And even with the podcast, I told myself like, I'm

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Speaker 1: You don't have to know a damn thing. Tiff, and

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Speaker 1: I think, as I think, the most beautiful gift we

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Speaker 1: like we're all the luckier for it. I love you

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Speaker 2: I love you too, Mandy, And honestly, you know, I

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Speaker 3: I mean, you really, we have grown so much. We

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Speaker 2: You know, and we've been here. I mean, you've seen

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Speaker 2: I mean, all the things you've seen her like crushing

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Speaker 1: You know, I want to say, we're going to have

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Speaker 1: time to sit down and listen to three hundred hours.

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Speaker 2: I don't let them ever do that. But it's out there.

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Speaker 2: At least it's out there.

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Speaker 1: My son's going to be like Mama, let's talk about

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Speaker 3: Let But if I could like impress upon y'all any

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Speaker 3: I mean, like almost like diary your life. Because Drug's

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Speaker 3: and that was one of the things he said, I

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Speaker 2: But Jirelle, he was like a secret vlogger.

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Speaker 3: Like after he passed, I went through his phone, Mandy

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Speaker 3: so many pictures in video, like of just like him.

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Speaker 3: A thousand dollars for such and such friends so they

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00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 3: could do this, two hundred dollars for such and such friends,

437
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 3: so they could do that, such and such straight aids

438
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 3: on har redport card five hundred here, And I'm like,

439
00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 3: this man gave everything away because in his mind he

440
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 3: was like, I have enough, Like he had fifteen hundred

441
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 3: dollars left in his savings account. And I know for

442
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 3: a fact because I heard him the Sunday before he

443
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 3: passed away. One of his friends was struggling to buy

444
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 3: a car, was like, I could put a thousand on it,

445
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 3: like you know, I got you like, and I'm looking like,

446
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,679
Speaker 3: you have fifteen hundred dollars. Obviously we had, you know,

447
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 3: he knew we had investments. You know, we had, like

448
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 3: I said, our joint saving. But when it came to

449
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 3: the money that he he meta for himself, Drell gave

450
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 3: everything away because he always felt like he had enough.

451
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 3: He gave so much of himself away because he always

452
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 3: is like it's enough, and now it's just whereas I

453
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 3: like I can tell by where I give from the

454
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 3: places where I believe that there's enough, you know, And

455
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: to see him give holistically let me know that he

456
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 3: just was really living this life where he was just

457
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 3: like I am enough, this is enough. I have more

458
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 3: than enough to give and share, really giving from a

459
00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,679
Speaker 3: place of abundance, where so much I was giving from

460
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 3: a place and so many of us from a place

461
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 3: of fear, you know, and like I could just I could,

462
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 3: I can do this, But I don't know if I

463
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 3: could do that, you know, that's just enough or I

464
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 3: have to work extra, extra, extra hard because the millions

465
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: that have already accumulated, even though I don't even spend them,

466
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 3: can't possibly be enough. And I just was like, yeah,

467
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want to subscribe to that anymore.

468
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 3: The get it, so just just to get it, you know,

469
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 3: you know, me and Manny, you know, we had that

470
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: chat the other day about like entrepreneurship, and you know,

471
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 3: like how much really is enough when it comes to

472
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: making it. I know that if I put my mind

473
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 3: to it, I can build a company that makes one

474
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Speaker 3: hundred million dollars a year.

475
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: But at what cost?

476
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 3: Everything costs, especially money, At what cost to grow to

477
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 3: one hundred million? At what cost to my personal life,

478
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 3: my spiritual life, my professional life, at what cost? And

479
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 3: so only you can decide that for yourself. But there's

480
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 3: just so many lessons that I took away from living

481
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: a more filled and fulfilled life, you know, because I

482
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,400
Speaker 3: look at him and I'm just like, you really.

483
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 2: Cracked the code, babe, you like you did.

484
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 3: And sometimes I wonder maybe that's why he's not here,

485
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 3: because he's like, well, I ate this thing called life.

486
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,880
Speaker 3: I'll see all on the other side, you know, whereas

487
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: I'm just like, wait, so millions are enough.

488
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: Well, it's like this notion in America that six billions

489
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: and billions and being incredibly wealthy and founding your own

490
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 1: company and revolutionizing some industry, that that is what the

491
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: ultimate success is. And I think for you know, it

492
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: sounds like what you're saying, and what I believe to

493
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: be true too, is that does that is not what

494
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: makes you happy? And fundamentally, like when you when you

495
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: go back to that, like you know, that vision of

496
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: you as a preschool teacher and who you are and

497
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: it being the same as today, I think that's that's

498
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: the key. Can you put yourself in any situation with

499
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: any amount of money and still say that you're content

500
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Speaker 1: and happy. That for me is the that's the mountaintop,

501
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: you know, that's what I'm going for, and it doesn't

502
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: And for me it's of course financial gain is important

503
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: in building wealth because then what can you give back

504
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: and what you know, how can you do it? But

505
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: I want to be in the right mindset so that

506
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Speaker 1: when you know I have those resources, that I'm then

507
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 1: able to use them in a way that aligns with

508
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: my values and what I feel is important, you know.

509
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: So it all feels good and not like you're being

510
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 1: pulled in anyone direction that you don't want.

511
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 3: To be because it's like, if you get this like

512
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 3: outward success, how will it meet you? Like I wanted

513
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 3: to meet me healthy, happy whole, because if not, then

514
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: what is it that we're really saying. We see a

515
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 3: lot of people with a lot of money and there's

516
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 3: no joy there, you know. So it's like then they

517
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 3: accumulate more and there's even less joy, And they accumulate

518
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: more and then there's even less joy. So it's like,

519
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 3: oh man, I want to meet a healthy, happy whole,

520
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: you know. And so yeah, I just I don't, like

521
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know what that looks like. But

522
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 3: I'm trying to give myself the space and the grace

523
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 3: to decide without the say yes because don't let this

524
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 3: person be mad at you or so yes because you

525
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 3: said yes last week. I'm the type I would have

526
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 3: said yes to you ten years ago and be like

527
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 3: I got to say yes because ten years ago, you know,

528
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 3: I said I going to do it. It's like, yeah, no,

529
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: you have you know, certainly, you know you try to

530
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: keep your promises, but the biggest promise that you ought

531
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 3: to be keeping is to yourself, you know. And I

532
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 3: don't think I ever really believe that anymore, but I'm

533
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: really leaning into that now. For example, like y'all know,

534
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 3: I have my online school, the Literature Academy. I step

535
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 3: down as CEO because when I say death is so clarifying.

536
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: I had like a list of things that I wanted

537
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 3: to do that I was like if first I got

538
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 3: to do this, and then like I got to make

539
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: sure this and that was like and then one day

540
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: I was just like Tiffany, I've been wanting to step

541
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: down the CEO for some time, but finding a CEO

542
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: and putting the company in position and d d no.

543
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: I just was like, so, I'm not doing this anymore,

544
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: So Tam.

545
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: You're up.

546
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 3: And she's working with PEP since the beginning of the academy,

547
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: and certainly she's never been a CEO before. But I

548
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 3: had my business coach, Diane, who has been coaching me

549
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 3: for the last two years now. He coaches her and

550
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: she and I speak whenever she needs to. But we

551
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: have a standing call every other week, and it's my

552
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: expectation that we will see a dip in revenue this year,

553
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: maybe even next year. But she'll be just fine, you know,

554
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 3: because the truth of the matter is, you know, and

555
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 3: I let everyone know. It's either that or we shut

556
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: it down because I'm not doing it anymore.

557
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: You know.

558
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: I love the mission of the Literature Academy and what

559
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: it does, but I don't like being a CEO. I

560
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: like being a teacher. It's not as sexy or as

561
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: fancy or as I'm a CEO. I don't care about that.

562
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: So it's either this or ain't no Literature Academy. They're like,

563
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: we'll do this, so I'm like, yes, I'm sure, and

564
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 3: that company is very successful, as y'all know, we made

565
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 3: eight figures in twenty twenty with ten million. We've hit

566
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 3: our first ten million, and I was like, okay, and

567
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: I will walk away from it. And I just want

568
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 3: to do the budgeonista. I just want to be a teacher,

569
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 3: you know, I just want to That's it. And so

570
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 3: it was also hard to because a budgetista. You know,

571
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: I'm someone where I wanted to hire as many black

572
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 3: women as possible, and so I did. We had a

573
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 3: like twenty something women and they were getting good money.

574
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 3: You know, I would say, you know, maybe one fourth

575
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: six figures and above. But as a result of doing

576
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: them and they were like, you know, awesome, it forced

577
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: me to work at a certain level that I didn't

578
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 3: get as many breaks as like like I needed to,

579
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: Like you know, I took Fridays off and Wednesday's light,

580
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 3: but I'm talking about like really not having days where

581
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: or even weeks or even months where I didn't have

582
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 3: to work, Like I had to work to support the

583
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: people that had hired, who were awesome, and it was hard.

584
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: But I had to let some of them go, not

585
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: because of any faults of their own for the most part,

586
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: but because it was like, who do you get to choose, Tiffany,

587
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 3: you work yourself to the bone so everyone else can eat,

588
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 3: or you get to decide you've done enough. That's been

589
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: like the buzzword for me. It's enough, Tiffany. You don't

590
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 3: owe someone your whole life. And the thing is so crazy.

591
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: They never asked for that. My team wasn't like girl

592
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: hit the track so we could eat. When they found

593
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: out that I wasn't taking me a salary from the

594
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 3: budgetista so everyone else could get a bigger one, they

595
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: were like, why I over sacrifice And I was like, enough, Tiffany,

596
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: no one is asking you to continue to over sacrifice.

597
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: So we went from like twenty people down to three.

598
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 3: And I'm one of the three. It's myself, my admin,

599
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: Rose and logan, my content person.

600
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: That's it.

601
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: And when I tell you it's been so awesome that

602
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: like I would say, of the seven days out of

603
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 3: the week, maybe I work two days.

604
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: This is my only thing today. This is it. I'm

605
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: taping the podcast. That's literally it.

606
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 3: I went to the post office earlier to just mail

607
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: something off to a friend of mine, but this is

608
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 3: my and tomorrow I think I have a call in

609
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: the morning, and like it's so crazy. Because when I

610
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: finally realized I don't have to, I thought to myself, well,

611
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: without all these people were going to make less money

612
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: as long as we make enough to just cover Roses

613
00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: salary and Logan salary.

614
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 2: But that wasn't true.

615
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 3: I came back from my hiatus to almost a million

616
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: dollars worth of business. I'm talking about spokesperson work, contracts,

617
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 3: speaking engagement contracts, brand and bachelor of contract eight hundred

618
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: and fifty thousand dollars. And I was like, and I'm

619
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: being candid about this because I want you to see

620
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: them the like what happens when you align yourself because

621
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: I had told myself the story that if I slow down,

622
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: it means business also slows down and fails, and that's

623
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: not true. Life was like, yeah, actually, no, you're actually

624
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: doing way less work and surprise, here's almost a million dollars.

625
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: For you when you come back. And I was like, wait,

626
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: what you know?

627
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 3: So it just is like so many times, you know,

628
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: you tell yourself a thing and you believe it's true,

629
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 3: and then you lock yourself in the prison of that thought.

630
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: And you know, what I'm learning is that like I

631
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 3: can step away and business continues. I have done the

632
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: work necessary and required to do, so I can put

633
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: someone else in place and business continues. I can take

634
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: a break and business continues, you know. Like so it's

635
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: just like all these lessons that I'm like learning from myself,

636
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: and it just you know, like that one in particular,

637
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: is like I had told myself all that time, like wait,

638
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 3: I can really be gone gone. Remember I took those

639
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: like you know, like that four weeks off or whatever,

640
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: that month off, you know, and even that I had

641
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 3: not really learned the lesson. Now I'm really like, no,

642
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: you can be gone and you can never come back

643
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: to that capacity and still be more than fine. And

644
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: so my one of my mentees is she asked me,

645
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 3: she said, do you think you couldn't have gotten You

646
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: could have gotten here without the work that you did prior.

647
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 3: And the truth is no, I'm not going to pretend

648
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: as if you can start off at two days a week.

649
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: That's just not how it looks.

650
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 1: That.

651
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: There's a lot of planting and the podits you have

652
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Speaker 3: to make.

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Speaker 2: And it's only because.

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Speaker 3: I've reached the level of mastery in what I do

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Speaker 3: that I'm able to now pick from the garden that

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Speaker 3: I I've grown I'll never not pick because.

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Speaker 2: Of so many seeds that I planted.

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Speaker 3: So yes, you might be in your sowing seeds and

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Speaker 3: it is a little hectic and crazy and.

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Speaker 2: A little overwhelming.

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Speaker 3: But the key, and this is Mayday, and I chat

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Speaker 3: about this before, is that my garden has been overflowing

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Speaker 3: for a few years now, and I was still sowing

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Speaker 3: seeds as if I had just started. I had seen

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Speaker 3: my goal and I ran past it and just kept running.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even know how to stop. I'm like, wait,

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Speaker 3: so the goal was like two years ago, we hit it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you want to pay off your parents' house done, student alone,

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Speaker 3: deat done, debt free done, no mortgage done, all the

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Speaker 3: things done, done done?

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Speaker 2: Why are you still running so fast?

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Speaker 3: And so like I'm finally finally, finally slowing down, you know,

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Speaker 3: and like I hate that it had to take the

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Speaker 3: loss of Darrell's life to teach me how to live,

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Speaker 3: but sometimes that's how that's how it goes.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, all right, well let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more of brown ambition. All

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Speaker 1: rightba fan, we're back. While you were talking, I kept

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Speaker 1: envisioning the p and es in my garden that the

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Speaker 1: previous owners of this house planted. And I get to

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Speaker 1: every and I'm waiting. I see they're sprouting up right now,

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Speaker 1: and it's mid May.

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Speaker 2: Around mid May. Every year they.

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Speaker 1: Bloom and I just get to enjoy it, and I

685
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Speaker 1: hate it because it's so quick. You know they're there,

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Speaker 1: and then they last for a couple of weeks and

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Speaker 1: then they're gone. But that whole analogy around sewing and

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Speaker 1: planting and like looking but actually getting to sit down

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Speaker 1: and look at it and appreciate what you've built. Hell, no,

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Speaker 1: you are not an overnight success and you're just you know,

691
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Speaker 1: able to do this. I don't think anyone who's listened

692
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: to the show, you know, could could ever kid themselves

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Speaker 1: that you haven't, you know, worked incredibly hard to get

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Speaker 1: to where you are now. And I think the message

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00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: there is like, if you're in your like, can you

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Speaker 1: say a season of sewing, keep sewing, keep going so

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Speaker 1: that when something, you know, whatever the whatever the need is,

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Speaker 1: whatever the emergency is, whatever the unknown is, that you

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Speaker 1: have thing that you had that foundation to lean on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm incredibly just like proud of

701
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Speaker 1: you and also as much sitting back with wide eyes,

702
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Speaker 1: just wanting to see how you blossom and grow from this,

703
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Speaker 1: because I know it's going to be extraordinary as it

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Speaker 1: already has been. I mean, you haven't become you are backish.

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Speaker 1: Now do you want to talk about your how you

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Speaker 1: approached your new Can you call it a business venture?

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Speaker 1: You new Patreon membership community?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Numbers? Now it's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear about it. Well, tell abroad ambition,

710
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Speaker 1: like what is the community? What was your thought behind it?

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Speaker 1: And yeah, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: So I said, like I was talking to Mandy and

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Speaker 3: I was just like, you know, figuring out like what what?

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Speaker 3: Like when I was in Bali, what did I miss?

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Speaker 3: And I missed going live. I missed teaching basically, and

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Speaker 3: one of the ways that I used to teach like

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Speaker 3: a lot is I you know, if you follow me

718
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Speaker 3: on social media, I would go live, especially on Instagram,

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Speaker 3: and I missed it so much so that even when

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Speaker 3: I was in BALI supposed to like I had taken

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Speaker 3: the social media everything hiatus. There were times when I

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Speaker 3: was tempted to download Instagram just to go live because

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Speaker 3: I would have learned a lesson that day while I

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Speaker 3: was at the waterfall or learned a lesson while I

725
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Speaker 3: was like, you know, hiking or whatever, and I wanted

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Speaker 3: to share it.

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Speaker 2: And I realized, Okay, Tiffany, you really loved teaching.

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Speaker 3: But honestly, I dislike social media, and for myself now

729
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Speaker 3: I used to really enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: But it got to a place where it's, like I did.

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Speaker 3: Social media is like, you know, you're like in this

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Speaker 3: movie and you're ready to sit down and people are

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Speaker 3: running past you, and you feel like, well, I guess

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Speaker 3: I should run too, even though you're tired you want

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Speaker 3: to sit down. And so social media kept showing me

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Speaker 3: that like, get up, keep going, get up, keep going,

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Speaker 3: And it was really it was hard for me to say,

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Speaker 3: you don't need to run. I don't know what stage

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Speaker 3: those folks are in their race, let them run. But

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Speaker 3: it was hard because it was a daily reminder of girl,

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Speaker 3: you ain't doing enough, maybe getting lazy. Oh, you're losing

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Speaker 3: your touch. And so I was like, so I've been

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Speaker 3: pulling myself back from social but I'm like, well, then

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Speaker 3: how do I reach my folks and teach like I

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Speaker 3: like to without being on social So I thought about

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Speaker 3: it like logan, and I like, I said, there's only

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Speaker 3: three people let on the team. I was techt the

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Speaker 3: telling logan. I said, you know, here's a list of

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Speaker 3: like the twenty things that the budgetista does and how

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Speaker 3: it makes money. I'm not doing all that spokesperson working

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Speaker 3: in Brandon bassador work, which's kind of like one and

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Speaker 3: the same that I'll keep speaking engagements. I like speaking,

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Speaker 3: and then I want to do something where I get

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Speaker 3: to like teach live. Those are the three things I'm

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Speaker 3: committed that I like doing.

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Speaker 2: What do you want to do? That's what I told her.

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Speaker 2: She was like, hmmm, well I like these three things.

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Speaker 3: I said, all right, as long as you make your salary,

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Speaker 3: I don't, you know, like that's on you.

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Speaker 2: And she was like okay.

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Speaker 3: So we took our two or three things off the table,

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Speaker 3: and so the live thing, I said, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to create a Patreon. I had thought about it

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Speaker 3: last year, about doing digital mentoring because I've got like

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Speaker 3: ten like mentees that I speak to on a regular basis,

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Speaker 3: but I really can't add on like you know, as

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Speaker 3: many people.

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Speaker 2: That ask me.

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Speaker 3: And I thought, well, what if I can Instead of

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Speaker 3: going live on Instagram, I can go live here on

771
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Speaker 3: Patreon because what I love about Patreon is that once

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Speaker 3: I'm done, it's just us.

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Speaker 2: It's not the whole world.

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Speaker 3: Like Patreon, you get to live in your own bubble

775
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Speaker 3: on your Patreon page.

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Speaker 2: And I said, what if I do that?

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Speaker 3: And so I went live kind of like where it

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Speaker 3: was like my backash live maybe like two weeks ago

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00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 3: on Instagram and like all my social platforms, just to

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Speaker 3: kind of get people an update, like I shared with y'all,

781
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: and I told folks like you know, my Patreon's open.

782
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Speaker 3: The purpose of it is digital mentoring. It's less budget

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Speaker 3: needs to more Tiffany Elyche, meaning like we already have

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Speaker 3: my literature academy, you already have my social I'm not

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Speaker 3: going to teach you how to raise your credit score

786
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Speaker 3: over there.

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Speaker 2: We're not budgeting over there. We're not. It's not about debt.

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Speaker 3: It's about personal and professional development and for business and

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Speaker 3: business and entrepreneurship.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 3: Personal professional development, business entrepreneurship. That is my Patreon. It's

792
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 3: about like how do you go from here to here

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00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: as a person, but also as a business while you're

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Speaker 3: growing your business.

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Speaker 2: So it's specifically for that type of woman, especially black women.

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Speaker 3: Right, although I don't turn anyone away, but like it

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Speaker 3: just know, I'm gonna say sis and if you are

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Speaker 3: assists head white man, as long as you don't mind that, hey, Sys,

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Speaker 3: you can get it too, you know. And so I said,

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Speaker 3: I'm going to launch it, and my goal in my

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Speaker 3: head was a thousand people by the end of the year.

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Speaker 2: I was like, I think I could do it. I

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Speaker 2: think I told me that.

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Speaker 3: I was like, do you know, within twenty four hours

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Speaker 3: a thousand people signed up?

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Speaker 2: Yes. I was like, wait what sorry?

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Speaker 1: Soone knowoying how you don't realize.

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Speaker 3: And so right now we're at like twelve hundred. It's

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Speaker 3: like like eleven ninety three. So about twelve hundred people

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Speaker 3: have signed up and it's been great. We did like

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Speaker 3: So the thing is that I've sly had clear boundaries

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Speaker 3: that I am going to promise one live lesson a month,

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Speaker 3: you know, like if you'll be able to watch it

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Speaker 3: live and like participate, like I tell you ahead of

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Speaker 3: time when I'm going to go, and you know you

816
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 3: can watch the replay it's posted forever, and like I

817
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: will I will share regularly, like resources and tools and

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00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: the things that I'm using or have used for success,

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Speaker 3: whether it's getting you know, writing a New York Times bestseller,

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Speaker 3: launching a successful podcast, like hiring firing in business, you know,

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Speaker 3: how to hit your quotas, all these types of things

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Speaker 3: I've learned in business, being fourteen years in business and

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Speaker 3: so yeah, and cause I see a lot of people,

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Speaker 3: I'm not here to like shame anyone with their high

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Speaker 3: ticket item.

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Speaker 2: But for me, I feel like one of.

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Speaker 3: The roles that I play in the marketplace is to

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Speaker 3: give an accessible amount, you know, so minus just ten

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Speaker 3: bucks a month on purpose because although I don't need

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Speaker 3: a reason to quantify, but I like to for people

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Speaker 3: to understand, like, you know, like why at that price point.

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Speaker 3: It's like, one, I want it to be accessible to

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Speaker 3: many people as possible. Two, you're not going to stress

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Speaker 3: me out for ten bucks a month. I'm like, don't.

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Speaker 3: I'm not answer every question individually. No, I'm not jumping

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Speaker 3: on the call like you know, Like I'm like, you know,

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Speaker 3: like if you if you mad, certainly you can withdraw

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Speaker 3: your ten dollars. We all right here, sis And you know,

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Speaker 3: so even though I say one a month, one live

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Speaker 3: a month, the truth is I do more than that.

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Speaker 3: But I wanted to give like this is what's guaranteed,

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Speaker 3: And I'm really enjoying myself over there. The audience has

843
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: been like you know, my mentees over there have been awesome. Actually,

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Speaker 3: our next by the time this comes out, you'll have

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Speaker 3: missed it. But our next live is actually on Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: because today's Monday. We're taping is we're doing a business

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00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: and an entrepreneur Q and A. And so I'm taking

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Speaker 3: questions right now from my mentees, putting them in a spreadsheet,

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Speaker 3: seeing like because some questions kind of overlap, and for

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Speaker 3: like an hour and a half, I will answer as

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Speaker 3: many questions as possible, both live and the ones pre given.

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Speaker 2: And so that's our next mentor live session.

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Speaker 3: So I'm excited about it because some of the questions

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is a really good one and

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Speaker 3: they're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be shocked by the answer.

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Speaker 3: How how like what a great tool resources I can

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Speaker 3: share And so I mean I'm sharing everything from like

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Speaker 3: my contracts to my book proposal, like the one that

860
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Speaker 3: got me nine nine big publishers wanting to sign me

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Speaker 3: and that got me my multi six figure.

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Speaker 2: Book proposal deal.

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Speaker 3: So like yeah, it's just a place where I get

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Speaker 3: to share all of my knowledge and so yeah, and

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Speaker 3: so I can't believe my sister said, only you within

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Speaker 3: twenty four hours to launch a six figure business, because

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Speaker 3: you figure one thousand people times ten dollars is ten

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Speaker 3: thousand bucks a month, and that's what one twenty a year,

869
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: although patron takes like a percentage. But do you see

870
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: it's crazy because I thought to myself, wow, look at

871
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 3: the seeds planted that I can share this thing and

872
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 3: then have a thousand people sign up within twenty four

873
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 3: hours and you know, make ten thousand dollars a month

874
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 3: from the rip. But that is the because I first

875
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 3: I used to tell doctor Green, like, oh, I wish

876
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: maybe I had done things differently. She said, no, you

877
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: don't get to judge past Tiffany. Pass Tiffany is the

878
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 3: reason why you don't have to work right now. Passtivity

879
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: is the reason why you don't have to worry about financially.

880
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: She did what she had to do, and you're here

881
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: as a result. And I'm like, true, past Tiffany has

882
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 3: created chilling Tiffany. And so but yeah, if you're in

883
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: you can It's just called mymntor Tiffany dot com. And yeah,

884
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 3: you can join us over there. It's good fun times.

885
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you and Ray for me. You're my team Patreon.

886
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: That's the level of adoration.

887
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: It's you an Ray.

888
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: Well, I mean congratulations and I mean and it's also

889
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: as painful as that big business that I don't want

890
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: to like discount the business decision that you had to

891
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: make and the personal decision you had to make to

892
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: let go of seventeen budgetisto or liverat er you know,

893
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: staff body, And I think for anyone listening like that

894
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: is the that is what happens when you sometimes put

895
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: yourself first. I mean those difficult decisions. You know. I

896
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: coach a lot of women now on how to leave

897
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: work environments, how to quit and move on to a

898
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: better situation for themselves. And the agony and the time

899
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: and the stress and the anxiety over inconveniencing other people

900
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: or doing something that is persue. You know that you

901
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: can perceived to be for you and not for someone else,

902
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: even though I think you know you also gave those

903
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: women an incredible opportunity to work for a black female

904
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: CEO and to watch from the inside a business like

905
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: that go grow and thrive. I can't even say I

906
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: got to experience that through my career, I never got

907
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: to work for a black female CEO, and how many

908
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: of us don't write, So that takes nothing away from

909
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: the job experience. You gave them the opportunities to advance

910
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: the safe community, the Unicorn Squad, like those connections that

911
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: they've made, and I think when we look at it

912
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: that way, and I mean I encourage anyone to look

913
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: at it that way, it is it's all positive and

914
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 1: even if it had to end at this moment in time,

915
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: it takes nothing away from the value you know that

916
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: you starting your business from scratch gave to them, and

917
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: also the message that now you can move forward with

918
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: clarity and do this new community in the way that

919
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: you want to and feel good about it without having

920
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: to keep something else running because you feel some sort

921
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: of loyalty or like you said, like obligation to that

922
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: you can be free and lighter and be light and

923
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: chill Chill Tiffany.

924
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: I like Chill Tiffany. I know, I like her.

925
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: It feels like I get to know you all over

926
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: again in a way, but it's not what life is.

927
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: I feel like we change, we do. It's impossible for

928
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: you to not change after going through what you've been through. Wow,

929
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: all right my mentor Tiffany, So don't email her anymore

930
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: if you get your ten dollars ready.

931
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 3: Yes, like us over there we have Honestly, I'm really

932
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 3: that is a happy place for me. I'm just like,

933
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 3: I love it there. I'm there all the time, you know,

934
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: just like you know, like I said, I don't be

935
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: answering every question, but I read out and I'm like

936
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 3: I'll answer that.

937
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: I'm live.

938
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's you Rose and Logan. Dang.

939
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 2: I know it's awesome though, because we don't do I

940
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: hate meetings, but I'm not gonna lie I hate meetings.

941
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: We don't do meetings like I'm like I told Logan,

942
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: if you push myself on my on my calendar, I

943
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 2: better see a power point. It better be that you like.

944
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: Yes, there, it's funny how you coming well. I know,

945
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: back lowercase b back ish to Brian, ambition understood, message received.

946
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: But when you know, we used to have like a

947
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: monthly meeting with our network that was always like I

948
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: could never really find the right time for it, never

949
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: really to be that important, but it was always on

950
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: the calendar and when you were coming back and it

951
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, let's look at the time for this

952
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: meeting and having you. I'm like, is this worth Tiffany's

953
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: Is it? If it's not worth Tiffany's time, let's not

954
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: do it, you know what I mean? Like, and I

955
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: just knew this does not have to be a meeting.

956
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: It has to be an email. It's fine, but I

957
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: needed you to sort of like to think of other

958
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: than myself because if I was honest, it wasn't worth

959
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: anyone's time really to happen.

960
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: It could be a message or a quick call or

961
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: because I'm like, lookan, I can be a target right now?

962
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: Why you put this on a calendar because now I'm

963
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: sitting in front of my computer like girl, like cause

964
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 3: you know, because most.

965
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 2: Of times it's like because I've want one people who.

966
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 3: I hire, I actually like them, you know, and so

967
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: like logan and I will chit chat and I could

968
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: be a target like ooh, girl, did you know me?

969
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: Ask jeez? Let me see send me a picture.

970
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: So like I was saying about today's post, you know,

971
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 3: like i'd rather I when I say I hate meetings,

972
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 3: I hate formal meetings, but no informally quick phone call

973
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 3: we talk. I check up on you, how's your mom,

974
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: how's your You know, I loved, I loved connecting, and

975
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: so I just realized, so we don't do that. The

976
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 3: only standing meeting I really have is Tamra because I

977
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: want to make sure that she has the support she needs.

978
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 3: And my finance person I meet with her once a

979
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 3: month just to go over the monthly P and L

980
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: statement and how things are going.

981
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 2: But the truth is, like I do quick.

982
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: Like I called my finance person this morning, Georgia, and

983
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 3: I said, hey, for Patreon, you know the money is

984
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: in there. Should we should we have it connected the

985
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: paypaler strike. I said, can you do a financial analysis

986
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 3: to see where we get the most because each of

987
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: them takes their own kind of fees and where you know,

988
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: And she was like, okay, I was a five minute

989
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 3: call versus me because before it was let me get

990
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 3: on Tiffany's calendar to do that. No, you know, like

991
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 3: text me real quick. It might be just a quick yes,

992
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: no maybe. And so like I love the fact that

993
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: we don't. I don't have standing meetings with Rose.

994
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: Or Logan because also one of the lessons that I

995
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: learned in business is that if I have to run

996
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: behind you, then I already know you're not right for

997
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 2: that position, meaning like you know, if I have to, oh,

998
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: let me check, like I don't when I tell you

999
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: how little I'm in my inbox now. And I realized

1000
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: that I was in my inbox a lot before because

1001
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: the admins I had before, although there were great folks,

1002
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: they just weren't the right person for that job.

1003
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 3: So I always have to like double check to make

1004
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 3: sure nothing slipped through. With Rose, don't I know that

1005
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: if it's important and she doesn't know what to do,

1006
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 3: she'll let me know, you know. And she's awesome at

1007
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: what she does. I mean, like everything from sending flowers

1008
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: to my mom for Mother's Day to I had her

1009
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 3: negotiate our first contract, like a speaking engagement that didn't

1010
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 3: want to pay me my full amount, and I knew

1011
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 3: if I got on the call then I would close

1012
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 3: the deal, because you know, I get on the call,

1013
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 3: they're like, oh yeah, let me say, I'm like, give

1014
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 3: me my money, and they're like okay.

1015
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: But I said, Rose, you don't negotiates. She was like me.

1016
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 2: I was like, she said, but what if I don't

1017
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 2: get it?

1018
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 3: I said, so, so I said, one we made our

1019
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: quoter for the year. Already I had a number in

1020
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 3: mind that I wanted to make that everybody got paid well,

1021
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: including me for once, and I said, we already made

1022
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 3: that number. So worst case scenario, they say kick rocks,

1023
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: and then they kick rocks and we keep it moving.

1024
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: So I told her exactly what to say. I told

1025
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 3: her what they were likely to say and the motivation

1026
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: behind it, and she said everything. And they went from

1027
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: asking us to give them a discount to saying, we

1028
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 3: found the money. We can't wait to work with you.

1029
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: She was so excited, but now she's empowered. I'm like, girl,

1030
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: because I'm not trying to get on another damn meeting

1031
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: if I don't have to, like, let Rose do it,

1032
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: and so like girl like cause I'm like, yo, I

1033
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 3: want to tell you I'd be walking three hours a

1034
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 3: day and listen to my audible. I'm like, that's my day.

1035
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 3: Like today after this, I'm like, if it was raining outside,

1036
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 3: that's what I'll do next. Maybe I'll do laundry today,

1037
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 3: you know. I'm just like, I don't know. Maybe I'll

1038
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: like like go hang on my sister because the kids

1039
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 3: should be back from school soon, and maybe I'll go

1040
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: play with the crazies, like that's my niece and my nephew.

1041
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 3: That's what I call them, and so like it just

1042
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 3: this is how I want life to go. One where

1043
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: it's just like you know, maybe I'll call one of

1044
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 3: my mentees and pour into them and so like, yeah,

1045
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: I just I'm excited about this this shift. But yeah,

1046
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: this is like you know, but it does feel good

1047
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: to be back here, Like I I'm like eager to

1048
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 3: see like what it all shakes out to be, especially

1049
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: now that we're Webby Award winners.

1050
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: You see us we say that.

1051
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, yeah, well yes I'm social,

1052
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: but not officially.

1053
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 2: Yes, not here, thank you all.

1054
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, he see and also listen brown, ambition is

1055
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: a garden that we sowed seven years ago for me.

1056
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: It's ambition has sewn like we sew those sees so

1057
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: many years ago. Seven years now. We've been doing this

1058
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: a long time. We're like geriatric podcasters almost. I had

1059
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: a very frustrating phone call, my first frustrating phone call

1060
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: with a coaching client. I've coached two hundred women since

1061
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: last July. It's been phenomenal this journey. And and I've

1062
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: yet I had yet to have an interaction with one

1063
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: where it was like just not the right fit, you

1064
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean in this particular one, you know,

1065
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: someone who was starting a podcast and and I was

1066
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: and had asked me for feedback and I and I

1067
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: was giving it. And the resistance to the notion of

1068
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: organic audience growth and that it takes time and it

1069
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: takes consistency and showing up and there's no I had

1070
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 1: no secret tricks. If you want my advice and how

1071
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: to build a podcast, I got. I got no secret

1072
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: tricks in terms of, oh, pay this exact amount in

1073
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: ads or you know, do this amount of promotion. There's

1074
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: no tricks we tip and I have shown up, you know,

1075
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 1: for the most part, every week for seven years and

1076
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: created content that people enjoyed and kept doing it and

1077
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: kept doing it. And I think what is great about

1078
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: the whole award situation is it's nice. Let's not kid around,

1079
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: like it's nice to get recognized and about damn time,

1080
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Okay, Plutus Awards, where the

1081
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: hell y'all at? We keep getting a nominated and never went.

1082
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: But anyway, like there's there's and it feels it feels

1083
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 1: nice and gratifying to have that recognition. But Tip and I,

1084
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: we haven't done this show for that. It was always,

1085
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, to make ourselves and our audience feel good.

1086
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: And I think that that's why we continue showing up.

1087
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: If you're showing up for the awards and for the

1088
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: numbers and for the sponsorships and things like that, what

1089
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: an empty, unfulfilling way to approach it anyway. And I

1090
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: think that it was good to have that kind of

1091
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: awkward interaction because it reinforced for me why there's not

1092
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: going to be another broad I aint gotta worry, you know,

1093
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 1: there's not another Brown ambition because we get it. I

1094
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, why we're here

1095
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: and what we're doing it for and take away the

1096
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: awards and we're still showing up, right, So thank y'all,

1097
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for voting. Thank you dream Catchers,

1098
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: thank you VA Fan, thank you Logan, thank you Amber

1099
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: on our social team at VA for promoting it. Yeah

1100
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: it feels damn good. Do we get a trophy or something?

1101
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't actually know what happens now.

1102
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to ask because we got not just

1103
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 3: like the people's choice, but the judges too, which is like, oh,

1104
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 3: we went on BOLLS because you know, just like for

1105
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: full clarity that that was amazing that it was like,

1106
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 3: oh wow, y'all voted and we won, but also the judges.

1107
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: We got an award from the judges, which is like.

1108
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: So you know, it's not often that you can win

1109
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 3: on both sides of the aisle, which is like the

1110
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: people love you, but then like you know, the powers

1111
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: that be, So it's like we out.

1112
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: Here, we out here, We've been out here and even

1113
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: through and y'all have stayed so loyal and you know,

1114
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: the show has grown this past year. And I think

1115
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 1: for there was a time, you know, Tiffany after Darrell

1116
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: had passed or even I had no idea what the

1117
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: future of Brown Ambition was and I had made my

1118
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: peace with it. I'm like, okay, you know, this was

1119
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: an amazing journey. It's me and Tiffany or bust, you

1120
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I didn't know what it

1121
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: would be like doing it or trying to do it solo,

1122
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: and it y'all have shown up like and continue to

1123
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: show up, and you know, I think that's a beautiful

1124
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: testament to that, you know, the like the relationships that

1125
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 1: we've built with our audience and you guys.

1126
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: It's just like you've grown, you know, from like this

1127
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: corporate badass to like this entrepreneur like you know, you're

1128
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 3: sorry and now you're like this like go to influencer.

1129
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 3: So it's like you got a chance to like flex

1130
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 3: your chops. You know, I don't even know if that's worried.

1131
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 3: You know, like hone, your chops flex yours either way,

1132
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I'm so my dad's daughter.

1133
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: He always mixes up all metaphors and like simply I'm

1134
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 3: like flex for chops. I'm sure that's not the word,

1135
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, you really got a chance,

1136
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: Like I love to see how you have stepped in

1137
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: to this space and are like shine and shining, and

1138
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 3: it's just like, you know, in only one year, that's incredible.

1139
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I know you look at it like wow,

1140
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: like girl, dude, any idea what I was doing year one?

1141
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know, which I'm like, yes,

1142
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: I get it. It's fine, I know, it's yeah. I'm

1143
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: going to do a lot more reflecting and coming up

1144
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: on my one year anniversary in one month of establishing

1145
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: my LLC, and it's hard to wrap my head around

1146
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: it too, But I got to get some reflection and

1147
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: gratitude affirmations in my head real quick, because the anxiety started.

1148
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: Anxiety and doubt dog, my ugly doubt dog that kind

1149
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: of like sits on my desk and yeah, sent me

1150
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: every once in a while. It's been coming back, and

1151
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: it's more of that mindset work that I'm trying to

1152
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: do now, and just like, appreciate what you have done.

1153
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: Of Course I wasn't replacing my corporate salary in a year,

1154
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: you know, but I've done, I've done. Okay, I've done.

1155
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, Nanny's being.

1156
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 3: She's being humble because first of all, her corporateality wasn't

1157
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 3: she was making surgeon money. Okay, I'm not try to

1158
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 3: put a business out here, but it's not like she

1159
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 3: had a regular corporateality. So of course she's not replacing

1160
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 3: that old, big old paycheck in one year. And then

1161
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 3: on top of that, she's done really well. Like first year,

1162
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 3: I made fifteen thousand gross, take home five thousand. I'm

1163
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 3: laugh because I was living off of French fries and

1164
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: meanwhile I was a whole thirty one Okay, it what

1165
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: was it?

1166
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: Like, well, that's because she were nineteen. No, I was

1167
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: a grown lady.

1168
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 3: And so year two I think I made thirty five thousand,

1169
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: year three fifty. Then year four I think I made

1170
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 3: like seventy five, then one fifty, and then it you know,

1171
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 3: like success is is cumulative. It layers on top of

1172
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: each other. And so you have put in the work

1173
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 3: and so you are like, yeah, you are doing literally

1174
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 3: ten times better than I was when I first started.

1175
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: And so I'm just really proud of you because it's

1176
00:54:58,520 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: only going to grow.

1177
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: So because and this is not just for Mandy but

1178
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 3: for everyone, Like you don't have to work on being

1179
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 3: more yourself, like Mandy is a hard worker and smart.

1180
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 3: That part is the easy part. It's like you ain't

1181
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 3: got to work on that, girl, We get it.

1182
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 2: You're smart your heart, Like at any moment of time,

1183
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 2: if you know, let's just say you had a week,

1184
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 2: month or whatever, you know, you could do you know,

1185
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 2: financial editing on the side and make the coin. You

1186
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: need to make sure that the family's fine, so that

1187
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: part is secured.

1188
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 3: It's really the other part that you said about the anxiety,

1189
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: the am I good enough?

1190
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: Am I?

1191
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 3: That if you master that part of you, Mandy, Oh

1192
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 3: my gosh, you will be unstoppable.

1193
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:38,919
Speaker 2: So many of us.

1194
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 3: Work on the parts of ourselves that are already developed,

1195
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,720
Speaker 3: and then we're like, you know, we're like a baby

1196
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: in this other part. But it's like, really, success is

1197
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 3: self mastery. Self mastery. Do you know how to have

1198
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: the hard conversations? Have you stopped people pleasing? Have you

1199
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: looked in the mirror and said, hey, I am good enough.

1200
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 3: Do you take your mistakes personally and you have you

1201
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 3: learned how to stop doing it?

1202
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: That's self mastery. If you can do that, then it

1203
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 2: opens the door and unlocks everything else.

1204
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 3: Like I so much of Like I could have been

1205
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 3: much more successful in business if I worked on like,

1206
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: you know, not needing their approval of others because it

1207
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: forced me needing their approval, had me hire people who,

1208
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 3: you know, weren't always the nicest because I was.

1209
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: Like, well, I don't want her to be mad at me.

1210
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 2: Da da da, Oh my god, girl.

1211
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 3: If I could have been like, actually you can go,

1212
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 3: I could have grown faster. You know, if I had

1213
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 3: self mastery and you know, like being more assertive, you know,

1214
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 3: I could have gotten more money from brands that I

1215
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 3: know we're trying to just plain me.

1216
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 2: But do you see when you master that, that other

1217
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: stuff becomes easy?

1218
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 3: And so like, yeah, I tell that to my mentees

1219
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: all the time because I always wanted like tricks and

1220
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 3: tips about marketing and and you know, like scaling and

1221
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: all that stuff, and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonn show

1222
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 3: you that stuff, but it's not going to be as

1223
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: effective until you master these internal struggles within you, because

1224
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: then it's gasoline on the fire of those external things

1225
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: because most people don't work on those internal things.

1226
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: You do that, you know, Sky is the mother at

1227
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: the limit.

1228
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,919
Speaker 1: I get that, and for me, it's a daily There's

1229
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: days when I got it and there's days when I don't,

1230
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: and I think I'm making peace with the days that

1231
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't, and realizing as someone who deals with like

1232
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: clinical depression, especially after having my son, you I made

1233
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: peace with like there are going I'm there's going to

1234
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: be lulls, Like there's going to be times when the

1235
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: but then what are your support systems and what are

1236
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: your you know, what are your what levers can you

1237
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: pull to get yourself through it? Because there's happiness and

1238
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: there's you're going to get back to that place of strength,

1239
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,959
Speaker 1: you know, on the other side of it, and going

1240
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: with those flows has really really helped me as an entrepreneur.

1241
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how I had set myself up for

1242
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: success in that way, already working on so much mindfulness

1243
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: around anxiety and depression and the you know, in twenty

1244
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: twenty after having my son and dealing with that, because

1245
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur it's the same thing. It's like, at

1246
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I wasn't gonna be able

1247
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: to control my child and fix him as I was

1248
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: trying to do through my anxiety, and as a business owner,

1249
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: I've had to make peace with you know, there may

1250
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: be things that fall through. It may not work out

1251
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 1: how I always envisioned it. I may you know, screw

1252
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: up something or could it on this better or whatever,

1253
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: But Okay, that's the thing that's happened, and you've got

1254
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: to move through it and learn from it and do

1255
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: better the next time and don't put so much damn

1256
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: pressure to have everything perfect. And like you said, sometimes

1257
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm a lot easier about easier on myself about my

1258
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: mistakes than even other people. And I'm like, damn, almost

1259
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: be hard on yourselves. Like I just made a mistake.

1260
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: It's not that big of a deal. You know, we

1261
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: all make mistakes, but you're right, it's that mindset. It's

1262
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: a mindset mastery. And who's other Who are the other

1263
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: voices that influence I'm going to allow into my little

1264
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 1: protective into my little bubble, and what voices are there.

1265
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that your voice is back in the mix.

1266
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: I have to say that, Yeah, well.

1267
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: Welcome back is yes.

1268
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: If you guys, I mean honestly hopefully this is this

1269
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 3: is not just for y'all, like if you're like, if

1270
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: you have not invited somebody to listen. Tobout Ambition Evans

1271
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: is a really great episode for them to hop on

1272
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 3: in because I feel like there's going to be a

1273
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 3: message for so many people here about what it looks

1274
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: like to master yourself but also to to like to

1275
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 3: find enough in being okay with that. So we welcome you,

1276
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: to welcome your bestie, work mom, even your work dad.

1277
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: He can listen to.

1278
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: We couldn't we couldn't not tape this show seven years ago.

1279
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: We weren't here, you know what I mean, Like we've

1280
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 1: grown and matured in such like extraordinary ways. The show

1281
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: is never the same and for those of you, I

1282
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: hear them all the time on like dming me. I

1283
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: just started listening. I'm starting at the beginning. I'm like

1284
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: you about to go on a journey. So you think

1285
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: you're talking to twenty fifteen Mandy. Now how.

1286
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: Many different animal Yes? Oh my gosh, what.

1287
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: A privilege, What a freaking privilege. And this also feels

1288
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: like a reset for what does even brown ambition mean.

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Speaker 1: It's not just accumulating wealth for the sake of it,

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Speaker 1: It's really not. I still love our show title because

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Speaker 1: it gives room for that. But yeah, if I could,

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Speaker 1: if I could define brown ambition today versus what I

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01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 1: thought of it seven years ago, it is the understanding

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Speaker 1: that you can. It's there's nothing wrong with wanting more

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01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: and wanting to achieve things, you know, if they matter

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Speaker 1: to you. But it's also about understanding that as especially

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Speaker 1: black and brown people, and our listeners are largely black women,

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Speaker 1: we have to take care of ourselves along the way

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Speaker 1: so that data, you know, that ambition actually leads to

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Speaker 1: happiness and not just more misery. We deal with enough

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01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: of that shit waking up, you know every day. That's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. I think, and I'm proud to be

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Speaker 1: a part of brown.

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Speaker 2: Ambition needs to me. It's like.

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Speaker 3: Seeking health, happiness, and wholeness and peace in this brown skin.

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Speaker 3: So whatever that looks like for you, And so like

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Speaker 3: the ambition part is really like, you know, working toward that,

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Speaker 3: you know, the holistic version of yourself that does include

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Speaker 3: money and finance also because you know, we're we live

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Speaker 3: here in the real world.

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Speaker 2: You know. But it doesn't it doesn't exclude the other

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Speaker 2: parts because they're just equally as important.

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Speaker 1: So absolutely, well we did it.

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Speaker 2: We did it. Yeah, well, no, we didn't do Brown Break,

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Speaker 2: Brown Boost. I think they'll forgive us for a long show,

1316
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 2: for this backshow.

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Speaker 1: Oh please, this is gonna be one hundred percent people

1318
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: watch them and listen to the entire show through. Yeah,

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01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 1: I need to like dust off my brown booth, Brown Boost,

1320
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Speaker 1: Brown Break muscle. I don't know what that even is anymore.

1321
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Speaker 2: I forget. We used to have like a song, but

1322
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: we don't think. We don't figure it out. Yeah, we

1323
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 2: don't figure it out.

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Speaker 1: All right, it will be right back with Brown Boost,

1325
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 1: Brown Break. All right, bea fan. We're back, We're black,

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: We're brown.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Well, since it was a pretty long shot. I'm

1328
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,160
Speaker 3: just going to do just a real quick brown boost

1329
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 3: to asking for help. You know, sometimes it's really hard,

1330
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: especially for us brown folks, to allow people to look

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Speaker 3: after themselves. When I when I went to Bali, I

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01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: thought to myself, I'm here to learn how to take

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Speaker 3: better care of myself self care, you know, self self,

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01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 3: self self care, you know that's that word self self.

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Speaker 3: But what I realized because the Bolanese are known for

1336
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Speaker 3: their kindness that is non transactional. It's not inexpecting, you know,

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Speaker 3: they don't tipping is not this huge thing. And people

1338
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Speaker 3: are literally not just kind to you as a tourist,

1339
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 3: but kind to each other. And I thought to myself,

1340
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Speaker 3: it like it took me almost a whole trip to realize, Oh,

1341
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 3: one of the lessons I'm here to learn is not

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Speaker 3: how to take care of myself, but how to allow

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Speaker 3: others to take care of me. Because like, like literally

1344
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 3: like I had like a woman would come every every

1345
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Speaker 3: other day and she would take my laundry or they

1346
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Speaker 3: would come and clean because I'd read to the villa

1347
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Speaker 3: and so I found myself cleaning and she was like

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Speaker 3: after like the fourth time, she was like stop, I'm like.

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Speaker 2: No, but I feel back, so I don't want you know,

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Speaker 2: She's like, no, this is Tiffany.

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Speaker 3: You are a blessing. For two years we've had no tourist.

1352
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Speaker 3: They've been they were shut down during the pandemic. For

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Speaker 3: two years, we've had no tourists. The fact that you're

1354
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Speaker 3: here and I can clean the villa is a blessing

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01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 3: to me and my family. Like, you're doing me a

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Speaker 3: disservice by cleaning, because if you do that, then the

1357
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: villa owners gonna be like, well, we don't need you.

1358
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Speaker 3: So I learned for me to be like Tiffany, like

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01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 3: allowing people to take care of you is one of

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Speaker 3: the best gifts that not only can you could give yourself,

1361
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Speaker 3: but to give to other people. I didn't realize that

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01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 3: my friends who wanted to lean in and help me

1363
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 3: through this time, blocking them wasn't I wasn't shielding them

1364
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 3: from anything. I was actually making life harder for them

1365
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: as well. And so like asking for help and allowing

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Speaker 3: people to help you, that is my brown boost that

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Speaker 3: you are are deserving of allowing people to lean in

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01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 3: and to look after you. And so don't don't be

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01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: afraid to ask for help.

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Speaker 1: So does that mean, you'd like to order another dozen

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01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 1: chocolate chip cookies because bringing.

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Speaker 2: Them cookies, I'm gonna lie. They were so me And

1373
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 2: Alyssa she's like, Maddie, why chocoatip cookies? Like we have

1374
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: been dogging those Dagon cookies. They were just amazing. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, manby no more, Okay a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'll put you down for another order. It's been a while, Okay,

1377
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: only round twice. I'm gonna do a boost. I would

1378
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Speaker 1: love to boost Mandy money Makers. I just opened applications

1379
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: for my third cohort. I can't believe in January this

1380
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: was an idea that didn't even really exist, and now

1381
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Speaker 1: I am about to welcome my third cohort of Mandy

1382
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: money Makers. So if you want to join the June cohort,

1383
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 1: you can go to Mandy money dot com and apply.

1384
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: You know, when I approached Mandy money Makers, I thought,

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01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 1: let's make this small. I didn't want to create a

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01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: business where I felt like I couldn't really connect to people.

1387
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: So as I'm figuring things out, at least in my

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01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 1: first year, I was like, I want to do small

1389
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: group coaching sessions and I want there to be magic

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01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: in the air. I want people to come, women to

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01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: come and to feel like they are learning every day

1392
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: from me but also from one another. And it's just

1393
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: been this largely incredible journey. So my second cohort is

1394
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: about to graduate, my second well cohort in Many money Makers,

1395
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: and I'm ready. I decided I'm going to start in June.

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01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: So mandimoney dot com to apply and I need to apply.

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Speaker 1: Write words in your application. Sorry, what how many people

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Speaker 1: are you taking on?

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Speaker 2: What's the match?

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Speaker 1: I'm maxing it out at forty. So my first cohort

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01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: was about twenty five, second one is about twenty and

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01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: I wanted them to stay small, but I think I'm

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01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna experiment going a little bit bigger this

1404
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: time and just see how that feels. This is all

1405
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: an experiment, and I'm just kind of opening myself up

1406
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: to Okay, let's see how this feels. Anything over fifty

1407
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: starts to feel I just don't know if we would

1408
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: ever have the personal connections that we're having with one another.

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01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: And then each time Mandy money Makers graduate from the program,

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01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: you get inducted into or you get the option to

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Speaker 1: continue in the alumni community. And I have ongoing events.

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Speaker 1: We just had Janice Torres Rodriguez from Joky Dinero was

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Speaker 1: our first guest speaker at our alumni event, and oh god,

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Speaker 1: I fucking love her.

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01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: She's amazing.

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01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: And she talked a lot about mindset too, because you

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: think that she started that brand overnight and she's a success. No,

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's been, it's been wonderful. Yeah, so I'm

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Speaker 1: really proud of that. I can't believe it's my third cohort.

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Speaker 2: God, Mandy, look at that. Yeah, they tried to marry you,

1421
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: but they didn't know you as a seed. Let's not

1422
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 2: talk about the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's phenomenal. And June's also going to be

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Speaker 1: my one year entrepreneur versary. I don't know what I'm

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01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 1: going to do, but I'm gonna freaking acknowledge it. I'm

1426
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: going to freaking acknowledge it.

1427
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Speaker 2: Because you deserve. Like, I'm really proud of you, And.

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Speaker 1: We never got to say congratulations to you either on

1429
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: your amazing Like we all know you're a New York

1430
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: Times bestselling author, but right before you took your hiatus,

1431
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: you were about to cross over one hundred thousand books sold.

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Speaker 3: Mark right, No, even no before I don't even know

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Speaker 3: why Penguin said that. I think they were talking about hardcover,

1434
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 3: but in books total, I was already over one hundred,

1435
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 3: meaning like ebooks as well as as well as Kindle

1436
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Speaker 3: and audio. So now I want to say we're at

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Speaker 3: one hundred and forty one thousand books sold, and just

1438
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Speaker 3: for context, like twenty five thousand they consider good, fifty

1439
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 3: they considered great, one hundred thousand they consider I'm talking

1440
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Speaker 3: about in the lifetime and so to have done that

1441
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Speaker 3: with Unicorn No.

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Speaker 1: Twenty five, I've heard ten is what you can hope.

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Speaker 1: Ten thousand is what a really good debut, And I've

1444
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: heard that from someone who works on nonhait.

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Speaker 2: I mean with the first year, you mean within the

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01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 2: first week.

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Speaker 1: In the first year, like ten k, ten k, that's like,

1448
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: that's like, here's what you can expect. Ten k is good,

1449
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 1: Like that's a reasonable goal to make. So you're like

1450
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,720
Speaker 1: fifteen X. Everyone probably has their own, you know, their

1451
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: own subjective opinions about what's a good debut and what's not,

1452
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: but we can all objectively agree that's phenomenal.

1453
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Speaker 3: And then they told me that, like one thing I

1454
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,759
Speaker 3: did learn is that like in twenty twenty one, Giga

1455
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 3: with Money was the number one selling new personal finance

1456
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 3: book of the year. Like I was like for Penguin,

1457
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,800
Speaker 3: They're like, no, for all personal finance books that were

1458
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 3: categorized as such that year that launched in twenty twenty,

1459
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, you're sold more than any of them.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, but like some of these big names came out,

1461
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Speaker 3: They're like, I know, just so that just that's just incredible,

1462
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,840
Speaker 3: you know, like just letting that like settle for me,

1463
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 3: because sometimes you get like onto the next don't you know.

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01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that anymore. So I'm just like, or

1465
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 3: how I used to call myself baby millionaire. I member,

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01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 3: I used to say that, and I'm like, oh, tyfinitally,

1467
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Speaker 3: stop with the bullshit. You're a fucking millionaire. It's fine,

1468
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 3: it's happened. I just didn't want to acknowledge. I felt

1469
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 3: like awkward and bad and I felt bad, and it's like, no,

1470
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Speaker 3: it's okay to acknowledge the good work you've put in.

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Speaker 3: And this book is like, yeah, I'm really proud of it. Yes,

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Speaker 3: for the numbers that's hit, but what I really really

1473
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 3: really am proud of how many people come up to

1474
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 3: me and said this was really helpful. Like I was

1475
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 3: at like I was someone out last night and this

1476
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 3: guy came up to me. He said, I got my

1477
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: girlfriend your book for her birthday. And he showed me

1478
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 3: a picture of how he put it in a basket

1479
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 3: with like a bottle of wine and so she can

1480
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 3: have like a zen night. And he was like, because

1481
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 3: I got it for myself at first, and it was

1482
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 3: so helpful so many men. That's what shocked me too

1483
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 3: about it. Like I'm like, really, because you know it

1484
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 3: wasn't it's not anti man, not at all.

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Speaker 2: But in the book, you know, my audience is largely women.

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01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 2: So I say, sis, and girl get that dress from Target,

1487
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 2: Like I say that, and so yeah, it's just amazing.

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01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm a look at us girl and girl continued success.

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01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 2: You pave in them way, dude.

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01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you're literally and more women of color will

1491
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: get book deals because of the success of that book.

1492
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: So that, I mean, if you need someone to remind

1493
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: you how fucking amazing it is, just talked to me.

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01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: Thanks, because I know.

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01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: For a fact the proposed like the success of future

1496
01:10:18,280 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 1: black female authors who want to write personal finance books,

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01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 1: Your book is going to be in every single proposal

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01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 1: as someone as an example of, because that's part of

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Speaker 1: the proposal is where you have to talk about the

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Speaker 1: market and who else is out there. The success of

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Speaker 1: your book is going to make publishers less afraid to

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Speaker 1: work with women of color and put them on the title,

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Speaker 1: put them on the cover. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's incredibly a proposal grew. You got to be what

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Speaker 2: you meant anyway, So we're gonna post it, but I'm

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Speaker 2: give you a copy.

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Speaker 1: All right, Tiff, Well that is the show, you guys,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. As Tiff said, tell

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Speaker 1: a friend, tell a friend, tell a friend, take a screenshot,

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Speaker 1: tag us in this post, tell us how excited you

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Speaker 1: are to see Tiffany back, and of course all positive

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Speaker 1: love and thoughts to Tiffany. Don't or I guess if

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Speaker 1: you can't, you know, reach out to Tiffany on ig anymore,

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Speaker 1: say hi, logan.

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Speaker 2: A little bit, but yeah, largely logan, but yeah I

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Speaker 2: am the every once in a while, once we got

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Speaker 2: poked my head in and like, or she'll send me

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Speaker 2: a screenshot if you guys, send me something nice, like

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Speaker 2: you know, she's like, look, isn't this sweet? I'm like

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Speaker 2: it is. Tell them I said hi.

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Speaker 1: And what's the website again?

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Speaker 2: For the Patreon It's my mentor Tiffany dot.

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Speaker 1: Com, My mentor Tiffany dot com. All right, beautiful, that's it.

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Speaker 2: We did it. Yeah, we did it.

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Speaker 1: Joe, Hey, ba fan. We could not do this show

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Speaker 1: without your support or the support of our team behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes. The Brown Ambision podcast is produced by Cumulus

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Speaker 1: Podcast Network. It's edited by the wonderful Emani Crosby and

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Speaker 1: produced by Tanya Bustos. Dennis Stimplinsky is our in house

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Speaker 1: tech guru, and I am Bandy Woodrid Santo's your co

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Speaker 1: host and I will see y'all next week. Six