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Speaker 1: greatest game as a head coach. And I think with that,

433
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,640
Speaker 1: he really he was desperate to get the running game going.

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00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: I think especially after Beckham went out, because he knew

435
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Speaker 1: if you take Beckham out and you take Higbee out

436
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: and Van Jeff Jefferson has not been healthy. He's barely

437
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: on the field. Uh, they almost like we're running out

438
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: of options of how to move the football. But you know,

439
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: all those plays, especially the early down runs, which I

440
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 1: just hate. I hate when I see Taylor do it.

441
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 1: I hate when I see McVeigh do it. Put them

442
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 1: in a lot of second and third and longs uh.

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Speaker 1: And it was when they finally said this isn't gonna

444
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: work and really turned it over to Stafford, and that

445
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: last drive you saw what happened. I wonder if maybe

446
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: they they would have away from that sooner, maybe they

447
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 1: would have had more luck in the second half scoring. Ultimately,

448
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: they scored enough, but Acres, I will say this for all,

449
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 1: and I came after Acre's pretty hard earlier that it's

450
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: one of the worst postseasons ever. And statistically, by the

451
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: way it is if you look at yards per carry um.

452
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: That eight yard run that's set up first and goal,

453
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: that was huge too, because that you know that they

454
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 1: needed just anything from their running game to keep the

455
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: the opposing defense honest. He did it. And then Cincinnati,

456
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: which was not a penalized a team that was heavily penalized,

457
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: got penalized in three consecutive play setting up the first

458
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: and goal which led to the touchdown. I just I

459
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: look at the Rams early in this game, though, before

460
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: O'Dell went out and I thought that they were creative.

461
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: I thought that they came up with some good concepts

462
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: and something they looked out was so bad. I went

463
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 1: from six point six to three point six yards per play.

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00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: I mean, it seemed they were hitting a lot of

465
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Speaker 1: first reads like that. As the kids would say, Sean

466
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 1: McVeigh was in his bag that second touchdown drive, like

467
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: he was calling the wheel route to Henderson. He's getting

468
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: cup wide open heat, like everything is flowing and fast.

469
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: And you're right, the Odell Beckham was pretty much injury

470
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Speaker 1: was the moment of change. That's the thing, Like I

471
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: don't I'm hearing you with McVeigh after you know post Odell.

472
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Speaker 1: But like the I chalked that up to losing key people,

473
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: key players and going into the game without Higbee. You

474
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: can't say that with the Bengals, but it's not. Here's

475
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: the thing that the Rams offense, and especially after losing

476
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Speaker 1: these players, but even before losing they're not a dominant offense.

477
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: They're really good offense and uh, really good defense. I

478
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: would say the defense was better on balance over the

479
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 1: course of the playoffs. Their pass rush was the truly

480
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: special unit. Like as a group throughout these playoffs. That

481
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: carried them through all four of these games. But even

482
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: even with O'Dell and it's like they they punted quickly

483
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: on their first drive, they go three and out on

484
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Speaker 1: their third drive. They've been an opportunistic and I think

485
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: resourceful offense where they've made key drives when they've absolutely

486
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: needed to, but they haven't been perfect. The offensive line

487
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: was certainly out of sorts today, a lot of communication

488
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: problems like Sam Harbard and Hendrick Sin and Reader were

489
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: also making massive plays in the second half, and it

490
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Speaker 1: sort of seems perfect. Wasn't this like an imperfect season,

491
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Speaker 1: Like we've got two four seeds. These aren't like hugely

492
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Speaker 1: dominant teams. I don't know if we had hugely dominant

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Speaker 1: teams in the NFL this year. I enjoyed that there

494
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: was eight or nine teams. I think if you shook

495
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,120
Speaker 1: up this playoff tournament and Kip played it over and over,

496
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: that maybe had a chance to win it. And it

497
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 1: was an imperfect game won by the team that showed

498
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Speaker 1: again and again that in the last five minutes we're

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Speaker 1: going to be the best, right And it's the kind

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00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: of game where you know, I not that I'm gonna

501
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,239
Speaker 1: sit around and do this because you know reality has

502
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,439
Speaker 1: given us a result. But you're like, hmm, I wonder

503
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Speaker 1: what Mahomes and the Chiefs could have done today, would

504
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,680
Speaker 1: it be different? I mean, it's like, the Bengals were

505
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: this great story, but there's no there's no argument that

506
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: they were the best team in the a f C.

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00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: They just were a wonderful narrative. I'm glad they I'm

508
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Speaker 1: glad they didn't and the Bengals that if they never

509
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Speaker 1: get blown out. So I'm I knew I was getting

510
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,239
Speaker 1: a good game with the Bengals either way, and it

511
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: was I have to say, like when they fall behind

512
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Speaker 1: early and and then when the Rams botch the extra

513
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: point and it keeps it ten points. I'm thinking Walker's

514
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: got the six on the back of this jersey that

515
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Speaker 1: he owns. It was actually for his age at the time,

516
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: but it might not be around too much longer. Johnny

517
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: is not well, he's not the same thing. Might not

518
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Speaker 1: be the only one. We'll get to that. But yeah,

519
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 1: after that happens, you again, you're thinking to yourself, is

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00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati mojo starting to come around again? Because it's

521
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: instead of eleven point game, it's ten. And then when

522
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: and this isn't anything to celebrate when Beckham goes out,

523
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: like wow, that was quite a break because this guy

524
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: was lighting them up and the Rams offense was humming.

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Speaker 1: And then you get the team and went into halftime

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Speaker 1: feeling good the fact they were down. I think they

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Speaker 1: felt good the way they got out of that first

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Speaker 1: half and stopped right and I go, I go to

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Speaker 1: the bathroom and made the because usually it's like Maroon

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Speaker 1: five was playing and we'll get to the halftime show.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to use the restroom. Then what I did

532
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Speaker 1: was I watched the entire halftime show, just like everybody else.

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Speaker 1: The loudest that stadium was tonight, other than the Aaron

534
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: Donald play was halftime um great hip hop performance there

535
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: by the good crowd in general, it was a great,

536
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: great atmosphere both Bengals fans. Some I think Nick Westling

537
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: thought it was more like fifty three forty seven Bengals.

538
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: I felt like the Bengals at the top and the

539
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: Rams at the bottom in the middle, and yeah, I

540
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: think it was like, so I'm in the laboratory waiting

541
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: on the line. There's a bunch of drunk bozos in there,

542
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: and then you hear like a sound like what was that?

543
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: And nobody in the restroom knows what it is. And

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00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: what it is is te Higgins changing the game, Joe

545
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: mixing in the backfield. He had forty rushing yards in

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Speaker 1: the first half. They faked to him burrowing. I was

547
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 1: scrambling fires deep down field for Higgins defender that just

548
00:26:53,440 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: the ball runs it into the end zone yard touchdown

549
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: to Higgins. Has he knocked over chair and ring into

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00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: the end zone to get the bagel the lead. So

551
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: Ramsey was interfered with it doesn't the flagman called, so

552
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: my point being you have the missed extra point. Beckham

553
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: goes out that play. I get back from the bathroom.

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00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: Not only is are they a winning they have the

555
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: ball in the red zone again because I had missed

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00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: the interception too, and it just felt like everything was

557
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: this was It was twenty two seconds of tight and

558
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,399
Speaker 1: it was the coronation. It started to feel like this

559
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: dream season for Cincinnati. But really from that point, when

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00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: um Donald pushes out Burrow violently for one yard loss,

561
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 1: that was his first sack. That began the chain reaction

562
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: of sacks. Donald gets him again on the third down.

563
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: They get a McPherson field goal. That's their last points

564
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: of the game, and really things went downhill from there.

565
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Speaker 1: And it's just kind of a reminder you brought up

566
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Speaker 1: my homes. You just can't predict the sport. It's one

567
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: of the reasons why it's the greatest product, uh in

568
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: this country in terms of sports and maybe the world.

569
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: Like you think, you know things just like Patrick Mahomes

570
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: melting down and they've seen title game in the Chiefs offense.

571
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Speaker 1: But from that point, Cincinnati the storybook came to an

572
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: end because everything after that was a Rams rising. Well

573
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: that that felt like the opportunity for Cincinnati to just

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00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: completely take over the game. And and to my frustration

575
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: again with this offense today, that drive was eight plays

576
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: for eleven yards. You mentioned it, Aaron Donald, I mean

577
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: who ended the game also ended that drive to force

578
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: the field goal had they scored a touchdown there, Because

579
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 1: we it's not it's it's reality. If you look at

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00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: all of Cincinnati's drives, they've been a field goal offense

581
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: in the in the postseason way too often, to the

582
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: point where it's like, yes, we love Joe Burrow, but

583
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Speaker 1: like part of his job is to complete these drives

584
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: and the and we love their kicker too, but like

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00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: you don't want to see the kicker seven times in

586
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: the game. You want to see him once or you

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00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: want to see him on that point after touchdown. Yeah,

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00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: to your point, just to hammer that home that it's

589
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: thirteen ten at halftime. In twelve seconds at seventeen thirteen,

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00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: the next play is the interception on the swarne am

591
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: I saying that right sneck drop and then they stall

592
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: in the red zone and it goes twenty from thirteen ten.

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00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: But you're right, if it's the way the Rams offense

594
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: is playing, you know they could get a little tight

595
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: butts and and so one thing with the Rams which

596
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: they get the like had they changed the game psychologically

597
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: Cincinnati with a touchdown right there, I think you start

598
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: to get into mcveigh's mind. And that didn't happen because

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00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: they made the stop. He didn't in they being Donald

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Speaker 1: And that is like the part of it that I

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00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: that I did find very satisfying here with Donald because

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00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: it's not just when he made the plays, I mean

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00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: not just the place that he made it's when he

604
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: made those plays that sack that he got to end

605
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: that drive when it felt like the roof is caving

606
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: in on the Rams. Was a third and three play,

607
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: a very makeable. It wasn't like this obvious passing situation

608
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: where they're an empty or anything, and that's where you

609
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: need your great players to stop the bleeding and Donald

610
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: just pushes the guard into Burrow. Burrow has no chance.

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00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: That was the thing. For the most part. I would

612
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: only put one of these sacks on Burrow off the

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00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: top of my head. Maybe two. Uh. It was guys

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Speaker 1: winning quickly, and that was the absolute moment of the

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00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: game where they needed Aaron Donald to step up, and

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald the greatest defends I've ever seen. That's when

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00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: one could have gotten the m v P. Absolutely. I

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00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: don't know where this ended, but one quick stat to

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Speaker 1: your point. In the first half, Burrow had two point

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00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: three or five seconds to throw. That's the lowest of

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Speaker 1: any game in his career. And some of the Bengals

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00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: finished this game with a higher DEVO than the Rams.

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Speaker 1: So it's like these were two imperfect teams clashing. This

624
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: the true great ones, like the all timers, they rise

625
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: up and they do they truly do. People say, oh,

626
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: they put the team on his back as a guy

627
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: hit a couple of threes or had a long run

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Speaker 1: or something. It's like, no, the one the games where

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Speaker 1: you see it, you could actually see a player decide, no,

630
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: I need to take this into my own hands, like

631
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: a classic game for that for me to use, uh,

632
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: the NBA is an analogy here. Um was Lebron in

633
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: Game seven against the Warriors when he just went mad.

634
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: He had a great playoff, but that game where he

635
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: pinned the block against the backboard and he and he

636
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: was just he was a guy that was a man

637
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: possessed and wasn't gonna let his team lose. And Donald

638
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: and I brought it up on the show, but it

639
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 1: is to me one of the great moments of the

640
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: season when he gathered the team on the sideline down

641
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: ten points against the forty nine in the NFC title

642
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: game and then one out and singlehandedly took that game over.

643
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: And then he did the same thing in this game.

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00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: And if if you're a Bengals fan and you rewatch

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00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: this game or you're reading about it afterwards, and sorry guys,

646
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 1: that was a tough way to lose. But like when

647
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Donald pushed Burrow out of bounds on that after the interception,

648
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: and the Bengals players were not happy that he gave

649
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: him an extra push. To that point, Donald hadn't done

650
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: a lot in terms of the stuffing the box sheet,

651
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: and they got in, They got in Donald's face and

652
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: got him really fired up. I think I thought that

653
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: was a bad idea because Donald then goes and gets

654
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: another sack, and then he makes the big plays at

655
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: the end of the game as well. Just an unbelievable

656
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: performance by an all time great. Let's hear from Aaron Donald.

657
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: I wanted this open. I dreamed this, man, I dreamed this,

658
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: and it's like it's a real. Look at this, Look

659
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: at this man, this is it's feel amazing. It feel

660
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: amazing to feel great. Why did you see on that

661
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: last play that enables you to do what you did

662
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: and make that stop straight straight? You know we'll last

663
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 1: place to be world chaps. Give it everything you got.

664
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: I thought the way to get to him. How does

665
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: this measure up to what you thought it might be? Like,

666
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: Aaron is the best living in the world. God is great.

667
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: God is great. I just I muster where I don't

668
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: know what to say. I don't know what to say.

669
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: This is a blessing This is a blessing. I really

670
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: love the Lebron comparison you made, because for two weeks

671
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 1: we've been hearing from the Rams players everywhere. We're doing

672
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: this for Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald talking about it being

673
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: like a moment of destiny for and we knew that

674
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: this was a strength on weakness that probably could tilt

675
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: the whole contest. It's exactly what happened. Sometimes you know,

676
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: you projected, and it's it's what everyone thought could happen

677
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. And they've been victimized four games in a

678
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: row in the playoffs with their protection. In tonight, they

679
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: felt they met a force too big for them. And

680
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: you know the way that Donald hearing his voice right there,

681
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to combine that with the report from

682
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison that maybe Aaron Donald right that he would

683
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: that Aaron Donald um is pondering or would consider potentially

684
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: walking away from football after this moment. It's crazy just

685
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: because it came out of nowhere. It's such a random source,

686
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison, that that actually makes me put more into it.

687
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: It's like Rodney Harrison, and then that's kind of like

688
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: counteracted by the fact that it's Rodney Harris. I think

689
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know what their relationship is, but

690
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: for him to just throw out there that there's a

691
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: strong possibility Aaron Donald could walk away from the game

692
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: and retires. He's not making that up out of thin air.

693
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: And he's already been proven right because Aaron Donald has

694
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: all of his kids on the podium. You know, it's

695
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: it's after the Super Bowl. That's not the craziest thing

696
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: that had happened. But I've never seen that with Aaron Donald.

697
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: I've never seen all his kids up there, and he's

698
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: asked about it and he just said, give me a

699
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: couple of days to talk about it. So before this Sunday,

700
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: before I woke up today, there was no thought that

701
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald could possibly be retiring. And just with Aaron

702
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: Donald's answer, he indicated that he's either not sure or

703
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to talk about it right now, because

704
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: if he's not considering retiring, you just say it there.

705
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: It didn't come out of this is also something that

706
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: popped up. Sean McVeigh had some introspective thoughts about maybe

707
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: needing some time with his family. You know, if I

708
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: had if I had a guess I'd say neither walk away,

709
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: but I didn't think Tom Brady was leaving either. Uh,

710
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: you don't know, like Donald that was. That's an indelible moment.

711
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: H J. B. Long did a great job with the call.

712
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: After he makes that stop to to basically win the

713
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, Uh, pointing at his watch or where a

714
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: wristwatch would be, and then pointing at the ring. It's

715
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: time for him to have the ring. And it's just

716
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: like he's a He's had an obviously an incredible and

717
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: amazing career, and sometimes I feel like the football gagna

718
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: sent don't cut this part out, has kind of gone

719
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: out of their way to be like, make sure you

720
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: pay attention to this guy. Like people that know football

721
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: heads like this guy is just special. Sometimes the position

722
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: he plays doesn't allow you to see it the way

723
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: you can see a wide receiver be special. So for

724
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: him to now have the ring, he enters this pantheon.

725
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: Like um Todd Sperry, who runs our news division and

726
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: was sitting next to me at the game. He asked

727
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: me when Stafford after he goes on that drive, Stafford

728
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: enter a Hall of Fame conversation, and I said, well,

729
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: maybe needs another three or four years of being a

730
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: big time player. But this takes you a long way

731
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 1: in terms of getting a bust in canon. But for Donald,

732
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: I think now you start to have that conversation and

733
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: about where he fits in the greatest ever defensively, Yeah,

734
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 1: and there were reports that the Rams are interested in

735
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: an extension for Stafford, so he's likely going to be around.

736
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: But let's just say, and it shows how quickly things change.

737
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: If Aaron Donald walked away, Von Miller is probably not back.

738
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham is probably not. I'm just you know, he's

739
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: coming off a knee injuries, a free agent. If anything,

740
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: I might actually make it a little easier for the

741
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: Rams to bring him back because yeah, but Odell was

742
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: saying he would take a paycu I don't know, but

743
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. And just emphasizes that this was

744
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: a win not just in general now but this year

745
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: team and we don't know what will happen with McVeigh.

746
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: And if you're the Bengals, it's like you came really close.

747
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: It's a really great story. But the shine of this

748
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: great story starts to diminish because the reality is you

749
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: look at the Chiefs, you look at other teams. It

750
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: is so hard to get back and the windows starts

751
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: to shut. And by the way, they aren't a roster

752
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: that screams like five year dynasty run beyond the belief

753
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: in a quarterback to begin with. So it's fleeting. It's

754
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: just so very There's also a report out there that

755
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, ESPN wants to potentially offer Sean McVeigh Monday

756
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: Night Football. Our guy Ian Rappaport did report that Sean

757
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: McVeigh he's gonna, you know, wants to be staying with

758
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: the Rams. He's not thinking about that in the short term.

759
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: He was talking about it more as his family situation.

760
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: When maybe he would be ready to have kids, that

761
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 1: would be something he would consider that it wasn't gonna

762
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: be in the next couple of years. But it is

763
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: crazy because I've actually thought the whole all in thing

764
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: was overblown by a lot, but because because they're they're

765
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: really set up contract wise with with almost all of

766
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: these guys for the next two or three years. And

767
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: I think what's the Rams secret sauce is how good

768
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: they are at finding guys in the middle of the

769
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: draft or unrestricted free agency or undrafted free agents and

770
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: making them into contributors and filling out the roster. If

771
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: you look that they can have a very similar roster

772
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: in the next year or two. But that change is

773
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: totally if Aaron Donald this is retiring, or if Sean

774
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: McVeigh is leaving, what is that An McVeigh leaving to

775
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: spend time with family is not even married and has

776
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: no kids yet, am I am? I? Well, I guess YEA.

777
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: Well that's fine. But I would just say in general,

778
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: in life, you you are going to continue to work

779
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: and continue to pursue goals while having shown Mark Yes, UM,

780
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: maybe I never know what that will be entailed. I

781
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: mean to get regardless, I'm gonna ask you questions, UM,

782
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: because last night, on the eve of the Super Bowl,

783
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: you tweeted, um over all of it. How are you

784
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: doing right now? I I was in a bit of

785
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: a mood last night, but on I I thought, this

786
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: was honestly a great day like I had this. This

787
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: was also when I saw that on the eve of

788
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl it was not that was not it

789
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: was not really on, it was not work related, and

790
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: I then I felt that I felt I felt that

791
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: it was like a darkness coming over my bedroom. Actually

792
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: in Santa Monica. I just I felt I like having

793
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: that power, felt that you do you could just because

794
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: we're can ghost where you see like the spirit's kind

795
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: of starting to come out. What wouldn't you describe my

796
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: attitude today as affable or or or you know, silar intensity.

797
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: I don't know there, I actually thought I I was

798
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: incredibly chilled out before the game. I was just sort

799
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: of sat in that little wooden seat and I didn't

800
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: feel worried about you did book it out of the

801
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: stadium immediately after the game. Well, you know, there are

802
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: things happening with my body sometimes that you know, kept

803
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: me out of a couple of weeks early in the season.

804
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: That was sitting in the same seat. For that, I

805
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: did sit next to Nick Shook, which was a great

806
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him in a well type incredible to

807
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: sit next to that. You weren't feeling so good because

808
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: the pipe takes up space with those no no, no,

809
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: you know what you know what takes up spaces when

810
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: people move a certain way in their seat or if

811
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: they like have four thousand objects like he was like,

812
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: are you all right? Like do you have enough spaces?

813
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm good and your courtesy alone makes me just

814
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: think more highly of Nick Shook in general. So it's

815
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: crazy because we we keep doing these you know, there's

816
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: these big takeaways from all this, and that's just how

817
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: it goes. There's like a winner, there's a loser. It's like,

818
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,720
Speaker 1: for the most part, it's like we're talking positive rams

819
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: a little bit negative for the Bengals, and and that's

820
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: how it's gonna go for the rest of the time.

821
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: There were there's so much randomness and there's so many

822
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: plays in this game that came that if it's a

823
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: little different, the whole game is different. I felt like

824
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 1: the the entire fourth quarter was chock full of those

825
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: plays that if just a little thing is different than

826
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: maybe the Bengals are the Super Bowl champs. One of

827
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: them was the Tyler Boyd dropped that you mentioned that

828
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: was in the fourth quarter. It was the last play

829
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: of their drive before they punted it before the rams

830
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: Um game winning touchdown drive. Now where we were and

831
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: looking at the replays, I'm not sure he would have

832
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: picked up. I think it's fourth and two, fourth and

833
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: one around midfield, and that was a sliding doors moment

834
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: in this game because of the of the way that

835
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was approaching this game and where they were

836
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: in the game, I kind of think he would have

837
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: gone for on fourth and two, So that was like

838
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: a huge or fourth in one. Maybe Tyler Boyd even

839
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: breaks a tackle and he gets the first time that

840
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: that was one. Another one was actually a running play

841
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: earlier in that dry earlier in the fourth quarter, to

842
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: where Joe Mixon finally has some space they call the

843
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: outside zone. He he gets to the outside, there's only

844
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: one guy there and it's Darius Williams, the worst tackling

845
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: player in the Rams secondary. He kind of does the

846
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw my shoulder and not even look at

847
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: what's going on and hope I tackle him. And I

848
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: think Nixon kind of stumbled a little bit in that spot,

849
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: like that's a play where they would expect Mixing to

850
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: break that tackle and that play could have gone for

851
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: a long time, and Mixing immediately afterwards was kicking himself

852
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: because he knew that was an opportunity and yet that

853
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: was a tackle. Ultimately, Darius Williams deserves credit. They end

854
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: up forcing the punt, and it's like all these little plays,

855
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: if it's just like a little bit different, who knows

856
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: how this thing well, and it's the coaches are gonna be,

857
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: you know, flying home and watching the tape tonight. It's

858
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those games where it's a horror show.

859
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: It's it's it's gonna be a snuff film. To some degree,

860
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: it's painful to watch all these little moments because these

861
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: were two imperfect teams, and you're right, whoever lost, we

862
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: would be we would be pointing to a lot of

863
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: little Rams moments saying, but the defense, the defensive coaches,

864
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't think I feeling like I think that both

865
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: defensive coaches are feeling pretty good about what they did.

866
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: Like but largely because these two like young geniuses like

867
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: did not um suggest geniuses as offensive like Ernest Jones

868
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: had a monster game for the Rams. He they decided

869
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: to start him over Troy Reader, who we've seen throughout

870
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: these playoffs and has been a huge letdown. Ernest Jones,

871
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,879
Speaker 1: who was a rookie this year, was another guy playing

872
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: in that preseason game back back in Augusty the preseason

873
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: counts sometimes mid round pick was injured earlier in the playoffs.

874
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: He had multiple open field tackles, he had a sack,

875
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: he had he brusted up a play in the first

876
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: drive to force them to punt. And sometimes in the

877
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl that's like what it's like. The Ashean Robinson's

878
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: and the Ernest Jones and the Darius Williams and the

879
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: Taylor Raps and really that Rams defense for the most

880
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: part making everything difficult. Because there's another scenario where the

881
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: Bengals wouldn't even have scored twenty points. They were a

882
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: little lucky to get the point. If the Bengals had

883
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: pulled this out. You can also talk about the fact

884
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: that I think they had like nine or ten tackles

885
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: for losses as well. I mean, it's just the simple

886
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: thing is the Rams win, and so that we're going

887
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: to shine the light a little more positively on the

888
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: on the defensive staff point, Greg I, we just want

889
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: to underline it a little bit. Do you who do

890
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: you think had a better game assistant defensive line coach

891
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: Marcus Dixon of the Rams or for the Bengals. How

892
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: about Jordan's Kovacs defensive quality control coach for the Bengals Covid.

893
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm going more top level. I do think

894
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: we should give Raheem Morris shout out why don't we

895
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,959
Speaker 1: answer that question? Just let's let's stick to here first.

896
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you can go wax poetics. Everyone knows Kovacs

897
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: doesn't really show. Yeah, I was hoping that. I think

898
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: Kovacs though, more that you know about him, there's a

899
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: big future there. Brahea Morris have a great playoff run.

900
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: I mean the whole idea was, like their their defense was,

901
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: it was gonna be tough to maintain how great their

902
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: defense was a year ago. And if you look at

903
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: this four game playoff stretch, they were as good or

904
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: better than that number one RAMS defense from a year ago.

905
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: And they did it when it mattered, Like, Okay, in

906
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: the regular season, they weren't as great. Who cares. You

907
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: just brought in von Miller and they absolutely rolled. So

908
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: did my guy. When you got it to night with

909
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey getting beat twice nine, I get one of

910
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: the face mask things bothers me. I like that there

911
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: can't review review that, but that that was a big issue.

912
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: I mean that changed the game right there. Uh, Chris

913
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: Russo was right bang the under on this game. I

914
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,439
Speaker 1: was right about that. I wasn't right about anything else,

915
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 1: but I was feeling I picked the under you banged

916
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: the under as well. My final score was unfortunately, I

917
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: had the Bengals winning. Let's take a break and uh,

918
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: we'll hit a bunch of other stuff as we can

919
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: continue our recap a Super Bowl fifty six bunch of

920
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: other stuff. All right, we're gonna get to sandwich props

921
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: in a minute. We're going to settle up some other business.

922
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: But before that, the Westling Brothers were in town, five

923
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: of them. In fact, the city was lousy with Westlings.

924
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: I got I met them over at the Elsa Gundo

925
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: Brewing Company for some drinks on Saturday night, and then

926
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: after the game, uh, you know, after Cincinnati's football team

927
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: very nearly won the Super Bowl but lost in excruciating fashion.

928
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm happy to report that the Westling brothers were in

929
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: good spirits overall. Um. Stephanie, Nick's wife was really the

930
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: biggest fan of the bunch, to be honest with you,

931
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 1: and she was a good sport about it too. And

932
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: we have we did some on site reporting with Ricky

933
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: Hollywood that you can listen to at the end of

934
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: the show. But I think overall, the Westling brothers really

935
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: soaked it in and had a great time. So that

936
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: was cool. It was crazy to walk down from our

937
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: seats and we were leaving the stadium, Dan, we weren't

938
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: exactly sure where the Wesleyan brothers were and we just

939
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: run into them, and of course we did, because that's

940
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: just the way this whole em But the stadium is

941
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: like sixteen city blocks wide and we happen to pop

942
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 1: out right where they were. Keisha is there that there's

943
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: an NFL films crew that was following Keisha and the

944
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: Wesleyan brothers. They were also at Keisha's house a week

945
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: ago when when we were celebrating West and uh, I'm

946
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: really excited to see that. But it was just I

947
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: don't know, it's like you're feeling so many different emotions

948
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: at once, but to see them all there, like it

949
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: just felt right. You know, they were they were all

950
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: in good spirits. Um. I felt so wrong for Chris

951
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: not to be in that mix. And and Dan, you

952
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: said it to me before the start of the game,

953
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: just just like you just wish Chris could be here

954
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: to see it. And it was kind of like when

955
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: the Reds were winning early in the season, I was like, Okay, Reds,

956
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: you got now. You actually picked now to have a

957
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: good season, and and it was different because the Bengals

958
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: and and we've talked about a lot, West had a

959
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: different relationship with it. But it it's cliche, but all

960
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: being together and like seeing us there and like seeing

961
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: us all in that one spot at the super Bowl

962
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: and the Bengals and all the Wesley brothers and Keisha,

963
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 1: and you just think about how this this great friend

964
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: of ours, Chris brought us all together exactly. That's what

965
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: That's what I was just about to say that, like

966
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: we we've had a lot of fun because it is

967
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: a fun way to remember West is to think what

968
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: West would where he'd be at headspace wise about this game.

969
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: But I think the most important thing is that Chris

970
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: is the reason why um Lakisha is so close to

971
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: us and why the brothers were at this game. With

972
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: the help from a lot of people at the NFL,

973
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: which we really are thankful to everyone, Matt Schneider and

974
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: the whole crew who made sure all the Westlings had

975
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: a ticket, we're able to get in the building. Like

976
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: they're all in that building celebrating Uh Chris and celebrating

977
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: the hometown team. And even though it didn't come out

978
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: the way you wanted it to come out. It was

979
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: still like this special way to celebrate someone we all loved.

980
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: And I mean we saw the pre Lakisha Chris Wesley,

981
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: and we saw the post Lakisha Chris Wesley. And I

982
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 1: don't really know if I've had a friend that went

983
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 1: through a more um visual but also internal transformation because

984
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: of one encounter, and so I wonder. I mean, yes,

985
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: there is the Bengals mystery side to what Chris would

986
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: have thought, but I think he ultimately would have just

987
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: wanted Lakisha to be as happy as possible too, and

988
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: she got her RAMS victory. I mean that would have

989
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: been She was super dug into the Rams and on

990
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: such an emotional level that like, maybe this is how

991
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: Chris would want it to go. And I just had

992
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: to say, like, Lakisha, who, you know, we have so

993
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: much respect for her and how she's gone through this

994
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: and come out of it and and been there and

995
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: a great mother to link like this whole week has

996
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: been highly stressful for her and there's NFL films falling

997
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: around and she's wearing the half the half Rams jersey,

998
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: half Bengals jersey, and I give her a big hug

999
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: when I saw her and congratulated her on the Rams winning.

1000
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: It's almost like that was almost secondary to her, and

1001
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: it was her hometown team St. Louis Style winning the

1002
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl tonight. You just again, you can't make any

1003
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: of this up and we'll never forget this whole run

1004
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: because coming on the nearly year anniversary of losing West,

1005
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: for he to like play out this way still hard

1006
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, she's she was. She was happy, I

1007
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: think with the Rams winning and she also and I

1008
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: feel this way too. You almost don't want it to end,

1009
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, like this week, because this week has been special.

1010
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: And I think about it because the Super Bowl is

1011
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: always going to be associated with West now for us,

1012
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: because we did that show after West died on Super

1013
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: All Sunday, and it's always it's always gonna have his

1014
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: you know, the day that it's always gonna happen the

1015
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: week before, and so it's always going to be associated.

1016
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: But I think it's sad, but it's also beautiful too,

1017
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: like it's it's a yearly celebration that we're going to

1018
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: have of him and of football. And I thought the

1019
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: same thing Dan in terms of how the game ended,

1020
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: And I talked to Nick a little about that, Like

1021
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: I think he would have wanted he should have been

1022
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: as happy as possible if he was here, you know

1023
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like and and when those three plays

1024
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: went sideways, I sort of thought, like he he would

1025
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: have been like that, there's the Bengals, Like that's that's

1026
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,479
Speaker 1: the Bengals for you. And he had so much love

1027
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 1: um for Keisha, of course, and she's such a pure

1028
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: fan that like that, That's like how he would And

1029
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: he was one of those smart football people who was

1030
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: always pounding the table about Donald's greatness. So Donald, I

1031
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: just I think it kind of worked out in a

1032
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: lot of ways, in a beautiful way that the Bengals

1033
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: didn't win, but everybody was together and and Lakisha got um,

1034
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: she got the ship there, so that is that's awesome.

1035
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: Um alright, let's see, let's get to the sandwich props.

1036
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: Always a difficult game. The victory. Winning is always about

1037
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: cashing in on others failures. It's like they say, like,

1038
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: what's the toughest sport of golf? Is the most difficult sport? No, no, no, no,

1039
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: it's success rate And it's hard to walk around in

1040
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: like a white eyesod shirt and like kick a ball

1041
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: around a green lawn. Wait, soccer, Now, you're no golf.

1042
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I get that. It's you think

1043
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: people just I'm just saying like it's like, I'm not

1044
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: gonna die on that. Super weird like the ad reference

1045
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: and then kicking of ball. It's like, have you ever

1046
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: played a sport? I didn't nail the kicking thing, but

1047
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: I think the clothing part is on point. Some people say,

1048
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, tennis, it's a one on one there's no

1049
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: coaches out there, You're all by yourself. A mental that

1050
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: that's one of the toughest sports out there that you

1051
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: corn hole the most difficult, especially if you're drunk. But

1052
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: I would say, uh, go get my lunch. Gets heard

1053
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: is up there as well. We'll start with Mark Sessler,

1054
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: Higgins sample and boyd out to the right and a cluster.

1055
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: The Bengals toss it to the right, Nicks throws into

1056
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: the back of the young tone. It is called by

1057
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: te Higgin touch down. Bengals show mixing floating one into

1058
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: the back right corner of the end zone and Tee

1059
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: Higgins pulls it in for the Bengals. Touched out a

1060
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: non quarterback completes a meaningful pass. Now, I don't know

1061
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: if Nick for Tier got this one right. It's according

1062
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: to Nick, I'm the only one who took you up

1063
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: on it? Did you not take because I remember specifically

1064
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: saying on one of the wagers, I wasn't taking you

1065
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: up on it, just I didn't want to. And apparently

1066
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Nick's got this wrong. It's just a matter of which

1067
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: one I didn't take you up that was mine? A

1068
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle, You're like, I have a weird feeling. I'm

1069
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: just not going to do that with you. Oh yeah,

1070
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: that's right. So we could also just you could just

1071
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: check the tape that there would be one simple way

1072
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: to all right, we're gonna stop down and Mark's going

1073
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 1: to check the tape. No, I could not be bothered.

1074
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: But I mean, you know, did you just say that

1075
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,319
Speaker 1: that the Sony Michelle thing. Yeah, so that's what you're right,

1076
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ricky. So Mark has a non QB finishes

1077
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: with two yards on two carries, by the way, not

1078
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: exactly the same performance as the hundred plus against Greg.

1079
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: Greg did not take you up on that, So you

1080
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: but you collected a sandwich on Meregregny, Michelle, me and

1081
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: Mark were there, Greg, Greg talked about other players throwing

1082
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: passes as not unusual or important. I said, I said

1083
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: that that's how often ces are. I took you on

1084
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: just because that's the way the game is played. The

1085
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: second half starts with an onside kick that did not

1086
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: happen when South it was a touchback, and then the

1087
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: big te Higgins and it should have tried an onsete kick,

1088
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: things would have maybe been different, Greg Rosenthal. So you're

1089
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: five and two there, Mark, that's a nice job about you,

1090
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. Four and three. Jamar Chase delivers a key

1091
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: memorable block that I think that's the worst super Bowl properly,

1092
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: don't just in terms of like here's the failed, but

1093
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: also like what are we even doing? Here's the thing

1094
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: you guys. I agree that it was weird, but for

1095
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: it to be a memorable block, it would have like

1096
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: the odds of that happening, we're very small. So if

1097
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: nothing else like it was it was an onion hanger.

1098
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 1: But you were trying to not even give me credit

1099
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: for where's the juice? Like what's fun about it? You know?

1100
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: Unless he's like I just sort of saw it in

1101
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: my mind, and I just wanted to go with it.

1102
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: I saw like Higgins running down and then Chase like

1103
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: delivers this thing. Your second one was looking really good

1104
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: at halftime, but then things went sideways for the Cincinnati

1105
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: offensive line. Joe Burrow sack less than three times, he

1106
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: was sex seven times, it's just gone for the under

1107
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: and nineteen times in the playoffs. Once again like proving

1108
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: that Kansas City game was so bizarre. Things got so

1109
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: strange in that game where he was able to get

1110
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: away and scramble and sacked once, but he was sacked

1111
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: nine times by the Tennessee tickle Monsters in the divisional playoffs,

1112
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: and then seven times by the Rams and the Super Bowl,

1113
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: including six in the second half. So there that is

1114
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: all right. The old Zeuser three and five. I had

1115
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup in Jamaar Chase each half a hundred yards

1116
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: receiving one gets there by halftime. I don't think either

1117
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: got there. Both were close to one hundred. Both had

1118
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: an impact to the game, Cup, especially Super Bowl MVP,

1119
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: but neither um eclipsed the century mark or got there

1120
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: at halftime. So I lost two there and then the

1121
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: halftime show UM I had still dre opening. I thought

1122
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: that the Scott Storch the keyboard that instantly uh iconic

1123
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: keyboard riff would start the show that actually closed. So

1124
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: it was like church, wrong Pew situation, good sensibility though

1125
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: that it was a something they want to emphasize, right,

1126
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: and I do like it was like Dr Joe was like, Hey,

1127
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: in this house set that we're doing for halftime, um,

1128
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: get me a big white grand piano. So I'm gonna

1129
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,959
Speaker 1: show him I could play piano. It was a great

1130
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: closer in the end. I was wishing I thought that

1131
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: would be the opener, but it was a great closer.

1132
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: I love that they started with a snoop verse expulsive,

1133
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: and I love how they ended up with drinks. Right.

1134
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: So we opened with next episode no Nate Dogg of course,

1135
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: but you get a little snoop starting things off. Turn

1136
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: off my headphones, r it will be dego, you know.

1137
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: And you can't like this is not trying to oversell it.

1138
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: The auxiliary we were in the five hundreds in this

1139
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 1: auxiliary press area. It was shaking. Uh. During the halftime set,

1140
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: people were just way into it. Smelled a little bit

1141
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:02,919
Speaker 1: like a certain wacky tobaccy, right, I mean it could

1142
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: have been uh. And then I My other prediction was

1143
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: that they closed with California Love. They went from next

1144
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: episode into California Love, and they actually closed with uh,

1145
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: what did they close with? What they close with? What

1146
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: they close? Still drained? They close to it? What can

1147
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: I say something? Yes, I don't. Did we need like?

1148
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: It was cool that fifty did the whole you know

1149
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: in the club music video coming down from the ceiling thing,

1150
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: But I didn't need it. Can I tell you something?

1151
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: I think not to um to man spread on this

1152
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: one and man explain it, Man splain, man spread. I

1153
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: think if you are a fan of that era of

1154
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: hip hop or you were kind of super plugged in

1155
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: when he hit that was like one of the biggest

1156
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: songs ever and Dre. The show was ultimately about Dre

1157
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: and Dre found fifties that and that was the the

1158
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 1: the image of him dropping down. Everyone that followed hip

1159
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: hop hip hop in the early two thousand's was like, oh,

1160
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: that was him from the music video, like you know,

1161
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: shredded doing his sit ups or whatever he was doing

1162
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: in the gym. So I was I got it. I

1163
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: liked it. Actually, I was in I gotta have a

1164
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: little bit of a surprise. I guess I didn't. I'm

1165
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: with you. I didn't need it. But it also felt

1166
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 1: like every song was perfectly chosen. I mean it really

1167
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: was crazy. We live in California and yeah, Wesley, I'm

1168
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: just saying it was like, how so Cow can you get?

1169
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 1: You know, it was a moment these two guys from

1170
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, from Inglewood that and that they're here at

1171
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: so Fi Stadium, that the weeds for us to be

1172
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: at a super Bowl. You know, you walk everywhere in

1173
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: so Cow and I think it's a beautiful smell. You

1174
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 1: just walk around the street. There's weed in the air

1175
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: pretty much everywhere you go. And for for every everything happening,

1176
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: for that to happen in the super Bowl Stadium and

1177
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: Dre and Snoop and then Kendrick, it's like it felt

1178
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: like the good guys one. It felt like a nice

1179
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: so this is as so Cow as you could possibly get.

1180
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: We've been to ten super Bowls. I think it was

1181
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: the best halftime show. I think there's recency biasm a

1182
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: little bit. The only thing that I would say that

1183
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: um that I easily had as my favorite was Beyonce

1184
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: before this, and I still think Beyonce is my favorite.

1185
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: But this one. We're in the bathroom for like thirty

1186
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: minutes after Shakira and j Lo in Miami. True, I

1187
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: have no idea what you're talking about. I like Beyonce

1188
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: one a lot. I thought New Orleans, Yes, New Orleans.

1189
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 1: Beyonce was excellent. I like Gaga a lot too. She

1190
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: was good. Um, and this one I thought was this

1191
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: was like the most joyous. But I'm with you, but

1192
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: with you, I don't think we worked together. But I

1193
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: really go back to that Black Eyed Piece performance. We weren't.

1194
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: We weren't together, but I remember I was in the

1195
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 1: building for that and it was up with people. It

1196
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: was like, wait, the super Bowl, what is happening? Um?

1197
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: All right? And then finally Greg so I that cost me,

1198
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: saying uh and Greg, you did me? We got Erica.

1199
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: That's it? Oh we did Greg, Erica? You said, Sony

1200
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: Michelle scores a touchdown? What did you have? What do

1201
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: you finished with? Like two yards? He could have had

1202
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: a one year touchdown in another scenario. He did not

1203
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: um any other kind of big picture thoughts about the

1204
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: game Boys. What you said before about Joe Burrow and

1205
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 1: the Bengals that you gotta take advantage when you do

1206
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: get there. There was a feeling I think with this

1207
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: Bengals team, and James Palmer was talking about it when

1208
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: I saw him in the press box today that like,

1209
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: they couldn't have possibly been looser this morning, throughout the week,

1210
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: they couldn't have possibly been more confident, They couldn't have

1211
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 1: possibly acted more like this was their destiny, and that

1212
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 1: they couldn't possibly be more confident that they're going to

1213
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: be back here year after year. That if they didn't

1214
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: get it he he said something to the effect that, well,

1215
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: if they don't get it done here, they act they

1216
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 1: they almost feel like they don't mind because that this

1217
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: They're gonna make this a regular habit. Now they have

1218
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: proven to us this season when you doubt Joe Burrow,

1219
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: when you doubt these Bengals, uh, they can have a

1220
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: way of surprising you, even if it doesn't make any sense.

1221
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: But this was an incredible opportunity, an incredibly winnable game

1222
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: that their defense really set up for them. And uh,

1223
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna be you can say whatever you want about

1224
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: coming back. It's going to be a painful a couple

1225
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: of months. I think they'll learn that, you know, you

1226
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,919
Speaker 1: can say whatever you want about we think there's gonna

1227
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: be a lot of these moments again for the Bengals,

1228
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: but all last offseason for the Super Bowl loser, the Chiefs,

1229
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: it was they're going to get it. He had all

1230
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: their resources to fix that line to make sure what

1231
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: happened against the Bucks and Tom Brady did not happen

1232
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: this season, and the Bengals going with a as laser

1233
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: focused to like, you cannot put Joe Burrow in that

1234
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: situation next year. They tried to put resources. But like

1235
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: for all the good job at their front office is

1236
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: done in general, that's one area that remains a disaster.

1237
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: And so you already know what your number one job

1238
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: is because there's a lot of other things to like

1239
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: about the fact that your core talent is all on

1240
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: the rookie contracts, there's there. They are right now the

1241
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: odds on favorite to win the a f C North

1242
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: again with those other teams haven't been weakened if anything else,

1243
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 1: And if you're the Rams, you're you're playing with house

1244
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: money at this point because you're the team that did

1245
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 1: pull out an imperfect game by both squads. And that's

1246
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: why I think with the all in thing, Greg, I

1247
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: think ultimately Yeah, if mcveighan donald their different team. Even

1248
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: if yeah, even if the core comes back and they

1249
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: don't get to the mountaintop and again, or maybe the

1250
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: people retire and the team goes under a complete they

1251
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: have the rings. They did it. This was successful, less sneed.

1252
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: Who's a guy that's been there for a long time

1253
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: and there was some down years where he could have

1254
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: gotten swept out and he didn't, And now he's got

1255
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: a ring with this team. I think that is It

1256
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: is a reminder that there is more than one way

1257
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: to build a team, and they showed it and it

1258
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: absolutely worked in for Cincinnati. Yeah, everyone everyone kind of

1259
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 1: has the same take with his team, which is, we're

1260
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: still in great shape. Let's go and pour a lot

1261
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: of resources into the offensive line and we'll get right

1262
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: back here. But that's not the looks looks stacked. The

1263
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: a f C North looks stacked. You got the Bills,

1264
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 1: you got who knows the Patriots coming up like you've

1265
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: got that entire a f C West Division. Uh, it's

1266
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: pretty brutal. I do like that. The Rams did it

1267
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 1: a different way by trading all these picks and they're

1268
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 1: coaching up these mid round picks like Ernest Jones that

1269
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: they give to me. It's like Odell Beckham was one

1270
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 1: thing in Stafford. Those weren't Those weren't balls he trades.

1271
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: Those were North You know, Aode Beckham was a no brainer.

1272
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: Signing Stafford was a smart trade. I don't think they

1273
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 1: went crazy, you know, I think that they were aggressive

1274
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: with von Miller was kind of a crazy trade. To

1275
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: give up two quality picks for two months of von

1276
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: Miller was an intense trade that was as all in

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Speaker 1: as you get. And then he delivers two sacks three

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01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 1: quarterback hits tonight. He's the first player ever to have

1279
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: two sacks in a Super Bowl for two different teams

1280
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: because he had a couple of course, getting the Super

1281
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP a couple of years ago. Uh, it was incredible.

1282
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: It was incredible vision. And to keep less sneed with

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01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and make that partner partnership work, even though

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01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 1: McVeigh is sort of in the lead. It's an interesting

1285
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: setup that Sneads there first, he works well with McVeigh.

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01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 1: The ownership wanted to bring Snead from St. Louis to here.

1287
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 1: Everything worked out well, and then here they are. You

1288
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: almost can't write it that Sofi Stadium and they win

1289
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I feel like Mark was dreading this

1290
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: sort of thing happening, almost that like the NFL preordained

1291
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: it and like that we were going to be the

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01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: Rams little uh like employees. But in the end you

1293
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: didn't end up that way. I'm getting to the point

1294
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: that like, in the end, I don't think you minded,

1295
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 1: because even if that felt strange, that like we're essentially

1296
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: at work right now, it's happened right now. That now,

1297
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 1: if if you want to project it as a goal

1298
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: or something that they envisioned, it's happened. I think the

1299
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: bigger thing that's happening because it's not. I don't really

1300
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: have strong personal feelings about what happened to the Rams tonight.

1301
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: If anything, we kind of know them as well as

1302
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 1: any team and some of the people, and like I'm

1303
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: kind of cool with it and good for them. My

1304
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: thing is more than probably, but even that, even that,

1305
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: it's like, like how much mental space am I spending

1306
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: on Odell Beckham? Literally none at this point? Good, I'm no,

1307
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: But it's like, I mean, not as much as his

1308
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 1: like Instagram story that I was. It's isn't it nice

1309
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: to just walk over from the super Bowl though, Like

1310
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: we just watched the Super Bowl and then we walked

1311
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: over to the Chris Wesleyan podcast studio and it took

1312
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,040
Speaker 1: us five minutes. Also, Drew drove like three miles this week.

1313
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know what it's a trade off, but

1314
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: I would I would just say this, it's the second

1315
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: year in a row where the home team wins in

1316
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: their stadium. I don't care about that. It's the second

1317
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: year in a row where a veteran quarterback of high

1318
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: value decided to go from or was able to go

1319
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: from Team A to Team B and win the Super

1320
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: Bowl in year one with Team B. And I don't

1321
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 1: think that trend is going away. I simply don't. I

1322
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 1: think you've got other veteran quarterbacks looking at what's happened

1323
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford and said, these guys

1324
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: changed their storylines and their destinies. And Odell and it

1325
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: ends with O'Dell suffering a bad knee injury. He comes

1326
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: to the sideline and he's got a ring. He's crying

1327
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: after the game, but he you know, he tweets out,

1328
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: it's all God's plan. He's got a ring. Now. But

1329
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: that is that is part of what the league is now.

1330
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: It's why Kyler Murray and we don't want to get

1331
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: head of that story. But that's why Kyler Murray might

1332
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 1: be saying I could do whatever I want. I'm a

1333
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: star in this league. And I think it's a major

1334
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 1: kind of thread now to follow uh in the NFL

1335
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 1: because things are changing and well and we'll just continue

1336
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 1: to see. I think players kind of pick where they

1337
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: want to go the way the NBA has turned into that,

1338
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: like these teams kind of finding themselves and maybe there's

1339
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 1: some back channel chatter and then they say, let's go

1340
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: for it together. Now that is with Matthew Stafford and

1341
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh. That is now the stuff of legend for

1342
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,400
Speaker 1: the Rams. The meeting in Cabo. There will be more

1343
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: meetings in Cabo across the league, I think going forward,

1344
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: even if it's not actually in Cabo, because it works.

1345
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: It works. It seems like we need a quarterback, we

1346
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 1: need this. Okay, I can come to your town and

1347
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: become the star and get a ring. Okay, let's do that.

1348
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: And football players don't have the mentality of well, that's

1349
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: just the NBA. They're thinking, No, it's just us too.

1350
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: We're actually ten times bigger sport than the NBA. Baseball's

1351
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: like a minor child sized dwarfs compared to us. No

1352
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: or what do you argue that football is like literally

1353
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with anything we're talking about right now,

1354
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 1: you're ranking of what's popular, minor child side. I am

1355
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: saying that, like football players should be as empowered as

1356
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: any athlete on the planet, because the NFL is king.

1357
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: There's no other sport where. But it's it's saying that

1358
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: the football warty years ago, football was in the mix

1359
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: with these other sports. It's completely changed. Football is the

1360
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: King's sport, and their stars should have as much, say

1361
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: leverage and power is any athlete on the planet, not

1362
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: just NBA, not just baseball, not just fill in the blank.

1363
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,799
Speaker 1: There are different dynamics. I think the Kyler, the Kyler

1364
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 1: Murray one is an interesting one to watch because and

1365
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 1: we'll get into it throughout the off season, so we

1366
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: don't need to hear, but you could hear the little

1367
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: sparrows from either the front office most likely or the

1368
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,759
Speaker 1: coaching staff starting to try to drag Kyler through the mud.

1369
01:08:56,080 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: As as potentially there's a power struggle here and both

1370
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: sides don't want to look like the bad guy. Russ

1371
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 1: could be up for grabs. Deshaun Watson's legal situation is

1372
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: still uncertain, but he could be up for grabs later

1373
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:14,200
Speaker 1: this offseason. Aaron Rodgers is maybe returning sounds more likely

1374
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 1: than not, but we don't know at this point. Like

1375
01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of these quarterbacks hanging out there right now.

1376
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: Mhm alright, we'll keep us busy. You know you ready

1377
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: for that? Mark, Well, we'll do a podcast tomorrow, just

1378
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback like emergency. You two will what's that? There

1379
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 1: is a new champion for the locks competition? Dan? Are

1380
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: you ready to announce your retirement? Oh? Aaron Donald, I

1381
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: need to get Jack and Harrison up here. I tried

1382
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: to retire from this. You guys wouldn't live me. I

1383
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 1: would like Greg, could you hand it over to me

1384
01:09:55,640 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: into some Yeah, Sean Kelly can get in here. Snap

1385
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 1: a photo of the transfer of lock trophy. It was

1386
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 1: one of very nearly one of the great collapses of

1387
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:11,519
Speaker 1: all time. But um, I'm humbled. Let's make sure you

1388
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm humbled and uh, Mark, you had an incredible comeback,

1389
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day. The trophy is

1390
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: with me for the first time as a solo venture

1391
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: and that means a lot. So I want to thank everybody,

1392
01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure what the future holds. I want

1393
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: to go home. I want to talk to my family

1394
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: about this and see where we are. But we'll go

1395
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 1: spend more time with him, maybe walk away from the

1396
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 1: sport in general, as everyone else seems to be doing

1397
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: right now. Maybe maybe baby, but we're taking it home.

1398
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm getting vibes from that episode where Mark wasn't happy

1399
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: with the lack of I think humility that you were

1400
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: showing on you know what, it's it came down to

1401
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: the end. You are vicariously we have you know, we

1402
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 1: win or lose through what other men do in um

1403
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: tight pants and pads. And that's what's happened tonight. I

1404
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: couldn't be more excited for you. I'm sure, I'm sure

1405
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: it was. It's it's nice to have it. It's gonna

1406
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: be right, it's gonna be right behind me over my

1407
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 1: right shoulder, um at my home. And then, uh, I know, Greg,

1408
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,599
Speaker 1: you're hungry to come back for it next year because

1409
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 1: it's it was a humbling season for you, no doubt

1410
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: to go from back to back champion two or nothing. Guy.

1411
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: You know, I tried to retire the lock trophy period

1412
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 1: um the format in general, but it sounds like I'll

1413
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,639
Speaker 1: never I'll never get rid of it. It's an odd

1414
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 1: battle that you're fighting on that front. I don't think

1415
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: it's going away. Um all right, any other thoughts, boys,

1416
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: This is obviously a uh still a surreal thing one

1417
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: year later without Chris. UM. Wish he was with us

1418
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: right now, and you you mentioned it always gets me.

1419
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is the when they do

1420
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: America the Beautiful and goes into the national anthem and

1421
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 1: then the Jets go over and then you look down

1422
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: and you saw all the orange and you saw Cincinnati everywhere,

1423
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh man, I wish he was here

1424
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: to see this. I don't even care what we're really

1425
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,240
Speaker 1: where he would come down on. I just wish he

1426
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: was there, um with us. I want to do mention

1427
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 1: one thing I want to get uh if you did

1428
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 1: not happen to check out John Gonzalez, Colleen's husband's SI

1429
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: weekly podcast, which he launched last month, and it's, you know,

1430
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 1: really good um journalistic program that covers a lot of

1431
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 1: different things. And last week he had us on the

1432
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: show with Lakisha and we had a really, you know,

1433
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 1: great group conversation. So if you guys want to check

1434
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: that out, just talking about everything that's happened in the

1435
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: last year. UM, I highly recommend that. UM. Any other thoughts, guys,

1436
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 1: I mean, when I think of West, you know, and

1437
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: I think we we it's so clear at this point

1438
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: that we interact with West in our own unique ways.

1439
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: But now, starting tomorrow, was the time that West and

1440
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: I used to hang out a lot. It was the

1441
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: beginning of the off season, and and it like football

1442
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: will never be the same for me, And like, I like,

1443
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 1: I think that I kind of admire I think Greg specifically,

1444
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: like you seem to be galvanized to kind of do

1445
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,000
Speaker 1: this season for West and to find love of football

1446
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: through him. And I certainly found my love of football

1447
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: growing by hanging out with West in general. I don't

1448
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: know if I can call this season that. I'm not

1449
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: sure it did that for me in the same way.

1450
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: And I it's just that I think I'm still processing,

1451
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,400
Speaker 1: like a lot of what happened this year. It's been dark,

1452
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: it's been rough personally. UM, But Mason majorly because of that,

1453
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: and um so I just miss him now, like hanging

1454
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 1: out with him and all the stuff that we would

1455
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: do when he'd start to get deep into his other

1456
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: interests in life. And and there's really no one else,

1457
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: um that can duplicate that in a friendship way. Yeah,

1458
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: days like today you wake up two Bengals rams super Bowl,

1459
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: you just sort of like feel him. You you think

1460
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: about him, you feel his presence in days like today

1461
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: where you're just like so alive to the excitement of

1462
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: the of the moment. You know, that's living, like to

1463
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: quote damage, like that's living and that's what that was,

1464
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 1: what West was all about. You wish he was here,

1465
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: but you also love that like he feels part of this.

1466
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: It's you know, not to be too much of a downer,

1467
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: but it's like the next week or two that's like

1468
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: that's harder, you know, because I love that he's part

1469
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: of this. I love when we were in London that

1470
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: he was sort of part of that. And it's like

1471
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: you want those moments, those special days where he it

1472
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,799
Speaker 1: almost feels like he's part of it uh to last forever,

1473
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: and they don't. But the best you can do is

1474
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,679
Speaker 1: make sure you are really living in those days, well said,

1475
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: And it was another really special year for our show.

1476
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: And so thankful to the audience, UM, who went through

1477
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: the loss as well in their own way and how

1478
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 1: to make a decision whether they wanted to stay with

1479
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: us and continue to listen to the show. And and

1480
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: so many of you did stay with the show, and

1481
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: you saw us kind of try to process West's loss

1482
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: and figure out how to even do a show when

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Speaker 1: Chris isn't around, who's such an integral part of what

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Speaker 1: we did. So thank you to everyone who's who did

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Speaker 1: that and UM and we hope to be around for

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Speaker 1: a long time with you guys UH doing this show.

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Speaker 1: It's just a a real honor to be able to UM,

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Speaker 1: to have the audience we saw, you know, so many

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Speaker 1: people UH this this week in l A coming up

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Speaker 1: to us big podcast fans, whether it's here or visiting

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01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: from different parts of the world, and we do not

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01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 1: take that for granted. So thank you to everybody for

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01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: the support of this show. Still hard to believe that

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01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 1: this is our We're gonna go into our tenth season

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01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast starting in September, which

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01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 1: it's changed all of our lives and it's like, I

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01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: don't know what happens next to the show things. You know,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be an interesting year for us, um,

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Speaker 1: but I could tell you that we love doing it

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Speaker 1: and uh, we're not going anywhere. It's crazy you think

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Speaker 1: that that those first episodes where we had to basically

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Speaker 1: sneak around, we had to leave people on the desk,

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01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: that it was this this side thing that we almost

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01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: had to be ashamed of, that our bosses didn't want

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Speaker 1: to do. And now here we are and the great

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Speaker 1: man Chris Westleyan's podcast studio across the street right. It

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Speaker 1: was pitched as well, if there's four of you, two

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Speaker 1: of you can go up and do a show maybe

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Speaker 1: at the same time. And we never um followed that

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Speaker 1: rule specifically and where it came from and who it

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Speaker 1: came from. And I think that we've um inside this

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01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 1: corporation not followed a lot of rules, and I'm proud

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Speaker 1: of that. Living well or podcasting well is the best

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Speaker 1: revenge and that's certainly case with us. So yes, from

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Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio and we're gonna of course

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Speaker 1: throw to our conversation now we with all the Westling

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Speaker 1: brothers and let's just take him off. We got Larry,

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Speaker 1: he's the stoic one. Oh what, he's the sardonic stoic.

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Speaker 1: Stoic is a compliment. I mean in many princess by

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Speaker 1: his brothers, that doesn't quite much stoic. But we got

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Speaker 1: Nick the bad boy. We got Phil the quiet beatle

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Speaker 1: in some ways but not really. It's got opinions, a

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Speaker 1: lot of heart. Eddie, Eddie. I haven't had too much

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Speaker 1: time with Eddie. Definitely the quiet one. He's the quiet

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Speaker 1: one plotting in the background. And great, it was great

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Speaker 1: to see him out here. I was pleasant surprised. And

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Speaker 1: of course Tim, Tim Westling, the wild card, the wild card,

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Speaker 1: that's an easy one. And Stephanie uh Nick's wife, who's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Great to see everybody. So, um, here's the conversation we

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Speaker 1: had with them, and what's been a really special week,

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Speaker 1: um for the Westlings, and and what's been a wild year.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for listening. And we're gonna take a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a break. We're gonna take the rest

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Speaker 1: of this week off and be back with you at

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Speaker 1: some point next week. So until then, you know what

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Speaker 1: you gotta do. Heat the call. I feel Okay, I

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Speaker 1: think it was a just and it was a good game.

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Speaker 1: A little disappointed for my brothers, huge Bengals fans, but

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Speaker 1: you know, it was a good game, and I'm happy

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Speaker 1: for Lakisha that the Rams one, and hey, the Bengals

1541
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Speaker 1: will be back. Plenty of cheer for over the next decade.

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Speaker 1: Of My wife extremely upset right now, season ticket holder,

1543
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: does not like the fact that the Bengals lost. The

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01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 1: rest of us happy to be here. A little disappointment,

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Speaker 1: but we'll be all right, and we also think the

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Speaker 1: Bengals we'll be back. This was a very, very, very

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Speaker 1: amazing experience. I don't bring myself to be back as

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Speaker 1: a Rams fan, and just in this moment, like in

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Speaker 1: the building Ram's house, we won the Super Bowl and

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01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: that like a lot of people don't get a Chase

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Speaker 1: experience this moment, and it's just like I don't take

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Speaker 1: it for granted, like this is such a wonderful experience.

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Speaker 1: If Chris is looking down on us now, he's probably

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Speaker 1: thinking exactly what you said. On the other hand, this

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Speaker 1: is a different Bengals team and he knows it. He

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Speaker 1: would love Joe Burrow, j Mar Chase. He loved the

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Speaker 1: whole deal except for Mike Brown, Boss Brown