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Speaker 1: Is this this morning? Combat?

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Speaker 2: Ohah's MK all day nearly every day. Back at it Friday,

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Speaker 2: the thirteenth of November twenty twenty. What a wild year.

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Speaker 2: But we're back at it. The big beij one BBC,

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Speaker 2: of the most popular journalists in America. Luke Thomas. Luke

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Speaker 2: uh orange background on Friday. Hats welcome, No Jay, no rules, bro,

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Speaker 1: In I'm always in. Although I have to take some issue.

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Speaker 2: before we get going, it is Friday. I mean, what's

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Speaker 1: Let's see, I'm taking my daughter to swim lessons tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Who are you blaming for this China, Trump, the state

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just like the same shit, all right. We

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Speaker 2: So you're cutting that down about twenty pounds for the cut.

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Speaker 2: If we can believe that, that's fine. But I really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's stay with Felder here, for a second. We

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Speaker 2: Very interesting stuff. Eileen Ourda as well, Luke. I think

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Speaker 2: I assumed this is where he was going, Luke, not

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Speaker 1: the UFC have a set of belts that have nothing

429
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Speaker 1: to do with the weight class and then the corresponding space, so,

430
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Speaker 1: in other words, no weight class belt and then no

431
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Speaker 1: interim belt. And I said, yes, they already did that,

432
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Speaker 1: which was the BMF belt. But you know, would you

433
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Speaker 1: want to proliferate that because you know the fight itself

434
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Speaker 1: between Jones and Izzy. The belt doesn't make it what

435
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 1: it is or what it would be, or it has

436
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Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. But could you reasonably sell it?

437
00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 1: Would you want to sell it as something where it

438
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Speaker 1: was a non title affair. I mean, maybe you could

439
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 1: do that. I suppose it'd be a thing. So listen,

440
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing the Whitaker rematch. I think the

441
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,440
Speaker 1: Witaker rematch would be a lot closer than the first one.

442
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 1: I'd still favorite Otisignia to win, But dude, Whittaker has

443
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 1: looked fucking great and people need to acknowledge that. At

444
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Speaker 1: the same time, it just feels like all the momentum

445
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,199
Speaker 1: is in the other direction. But with a bit of

446
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: you know, a comp seat of complicating factors we see

447
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: and how they square that circle will be really interesting

448
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Speaker 1: to see.

449
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke, what else could happen between Izzy

450
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 2: and John for this fight to be more perfect? To

451
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Speaker 2: do it right now?

452
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Speaker 1: Like?

453
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Speaker 2: What else do they have to do? They have to

454
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Speaker 2: fight in public?

455
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 1: Like what you know?

456
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: Like I don't understand waiting the window is there? Where

457
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: is he's about to burst through as a potential star.

458
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: John hasn't yet moved up to heavy, but has already

459
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Speaker 2: given up the belt. Why do you need a title

460
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Speaker 2: when it's a super fight? I mean, look, it sounded

461
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 2: like in your voice there you were almost teasing back,

462
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 2: you know, because yesterday was oh, by the way, the

463
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Speaker 2: what twenty seventh anniversary of UFC one in Denver, nineteen

464
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Speaker 2: ninety three. I'd almost felt like you wanted to bring

465
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Speaker 2: back the super fight title there that Ken Shamrock had.

466
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Speaker 2: I mean, like you why need it? You don't need it.

467
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 2: It's a super fight. It would tell us a lot.

468
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: There's almost more at stake in the potential passing of

469
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Speaker 2: the baton in terms of and the fact that even

470
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Speaker 2: you know, if you want to build it that way,

471
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Speaker 2: build it that way. Excuse me. With Habib exiting the sport,

472
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,480
Speaker 2: this could be a fight to determine the current pound

473
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Speaker 2: for pound king. I mean, it really would be. So

474
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Speaker 2: I don't think you need it. But here's the deal, UFC.

475
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Speaker 2: If you're not gonna do the John Izzy fight next,

476
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Speaker 2: and when are you? If is he isn't talking about

477
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 2: hanging around at two a five. So it's either you

478
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Speaker 2: want to do it now and you want to get

479
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Speaker 2: from it what you potentially could as an organization, or

480
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 2: you know, you're gonna have to hope they can collide

481
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Speaker 2: down the road a heavyweight or something one day. So

482
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Speaker 2: you know, should or get off the pod and let's

483
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Speaker 2: figure this thing out Luke altogether, right, I.

484
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Speaker 1: Mean, here's what I think UFC is up against. If

485
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Speaker 1: you look at the scenario, this should not be complicated.

486
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Speaker 1: Is he has a top contender and Robert Whittaker and

487
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Speaker 1: Bill Hoovich has a top contender and Glover to Shia. Right,

488
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 1: those are the fights that you should basically make. But

489
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Speaker 1: here is the problem that UFC has to sort of

490
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Speaker 1: figure out what they want to do. John wants to

491
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Speaker 1: go to heavyweight. Now I think that depending on who

492
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Speaker 1: they give them foregone conclusion that he wins as strong

493
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Speaker 1: but there's a good possibility that he wins. Here's the problem.

494
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Speaker 1: What if he goes to heavyweight and doesn't in fact,

495
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: But if he goes to heavyweight and just gets bodied

496
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Speaker 1: by somebody, whether it's Francis or Stepe or you know,

497
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Speaker 1: whatever the case ends up being, is that Yeah, is

498
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Speaker 1: that I don't know about that? But is that a

499
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Speaker 1: thing that you want to do? Because now, if he

500
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Speaker 1: goes up there and does that, yes, John could always

501
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Speaker 1: come back to two of five and you could make

502
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Speaker 1: it there. But part of the appeal of what Adasanna

503
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: represents is not just rivalry with Jones. It's that somebody

504
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Speaker 1: finally came around that not beat him at his own game,

505
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: but eclips him in time and space. Right, finally found

506
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Speaker 1: him at the moment where he was just weak enough,

507
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Speaker 1: and you were just strong enough and it wasn't so

508
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: much a weight class issue. In fact is he would

509
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Speaker 1: be moving up, but John would not have any claim about,

510
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Speaker 1: you know, having to make any kind of adjustment in

511
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Speaker 1: that regard. You would lose that a little bit. And

512
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Speaker 1: so I don't know what they want to do about that.

513
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: I don't know how you solve that problem, but I

514
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Speaker 1: think that's what they're up against. But again, lastly, just

515
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Speaker 1: on those weight classes, dude five and two of five,

516
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: they've got top contenders. Those are easy fights to make.

517
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Speaker 1: What will they do? I mean, your guess is as

518
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: good as mine.

519
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, let's go to Thursday night. That was

520
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: last night Luke Bellator twoint fifty two from the Mohegan Sun,

521
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: and we said, coming in sneaky, great card, especially they

522
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: went with a three fight main card. All three were

523
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: really good matchups. All three delivered in terms of entertainment.

524
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: In your main event. Featherweight champion Patricio Pitbull defending and

525
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: advancing to the semi finals of this Grand Prix with

526
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Speaker 2: a first round finish against a bold Pedro Carvo, Luke

527
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: I tried to talk up the Portuguese man's chances coming

528
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: in just from the standpoint that he was super confident

529
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 2: and he felt he had an angle to do this.

530
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 2: The betting odds were telling me to shut the hell up.

531
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 2: They were right, Luke Pitbull is all we say.

532
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Speaker 1: He is.

533
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Speaker 2: Everything he touched Carvio with seems to do damage. How

534
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 2: impressed are you by once again seeing this guy win?

535
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 2: But also nineteen the bell toor Cage, that's a new

536
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: promotional record.

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Speaker 1: He is, He's something special. It's not like Patrick Carvoglio

538
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: was the toughest test he'd ever faced. Like, That's not.

539
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: What makes it special is that the guy was off

540
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: for a while. You wonder when the decline might sort happening,

541
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Speaker 1: because by the way he's been in some wars, I mean,

542
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: as dominant as he's been of late. You know, even

543
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: the Daniel Weischel fight I was there for that. Vaishel

544
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: was putting an honor before he got flatlined. And then

545
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: the fights with Daniel Strauss were difficult. Like he's had

546
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, his body has been pushed in a number

547
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: of different ways, and so you want to see exactly

548
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 1: what he's got left to do. He is better than ever.

549
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: He is in total command of what he's up against.

550
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: Because remember it wasn't just that he knocked Patrick Carvolio out.

551
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: He nearly submitted him on the ground to you know,

552
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: almost snatching up a guillotine. I mean, he just he

553
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: beat this guy everywhere he wanted to and it was

554
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: not even close. And if your Patricio pitpolt I made

555
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: this point on CBS Sports HQ last night, you have

556
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Speaker 1: to love this because the fight got delayed, so you

557
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: came back to an opponent who was totally over matched,

558
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: and now you're heading into a rematch with a much

559
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 1: improved Emmanuel Sanchez, who they both fought each other four

560
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: fights ago. At this point, you know you need to

561
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: be ready for that guy. This was the best I mean,

562
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: you know it was it a tune up fight in

563
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: the traditional sense, no, but it ended up serving a

564
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: bit of that role BC and getting him ready. But

565
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: Gisio Pitbull, you know how good is he in terms

566
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: of the best featherweights on Earth? I don't know. I

567
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: think probably top three, maybe even a little bit higher

568
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: than that. But just watching a guy like this do work,

569
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: best fighter in Bellatore history, getting better over time and

570
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: then using this particular opportunity to get right back into

571
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Speaker 1: the swing of things after a bit of a covid hiatus.

572
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: It's a great place to be if you're a bellat

573
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: or to see you this guy continuing to do what

574
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Speaker 1: he does.

575
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had called out Carvajo during that selection show,

576
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 2: which I thought was pretty cool when Belatur allowed sort

577
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: of the the higher ranked people in this tournament to

578
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 2: come out and pick their opponents. He wanted to be

579
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Speaker 2: on this side of the bracket. He wanted him Luke.

580
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: I think that the any form of a beef between the

581
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: Pitbull brothers and SB just got back muted there with

582
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 2: this type of performance, because yes, four of the five previous

583
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: pit bull opponents did go the distance against him. You

584
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 2: wonder if some of the things Carvio was talking about

585
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 2: could be true. No, they weren't. This was this fight

586
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: looked like a mismatch and how it played out. Piple

587
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: absolutely dominated every second and Luke on the same side

588
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 2: of the bracket. On Thursday night, we of course saw

589
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Sanchez defeat Daniel Vichel by unanimous decision, and their

590
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: rematch from four years ago. You saw just how much

591
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Sanchez has improved in the Duke Rufus camp. There

592
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. I'm sorry Wisconsin and Luke. This is gonna

593
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: set up for a rematch between the two of them, Pitple,

594
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: who already defeated Sanchez. Let's stay in this fight for

595
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: a second. I saw an Emmanuel Sanchez with a friggin

596
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: motor Luke who was just coming at Vichel. Now Vichel

597
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: as a veteran. He showed a tremendous chin and will

598
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: to hang in there and try to have moments even

599
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: when he was getting dominated in that third round, He's

600
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: still firing back, but Emmanuel Sanchez is just chopping him

601
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: down to the legs, going hard to the body, big

602
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: combinations on him every single second. Did you see enough

603
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: from Sanchez right here to greatly improve his chances in

604
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 2: a rematch against Pitbull?

605
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yes I did. I still think he's got a

606
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: bit of a fatal flaw and that he's too hittable.

607
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean, even in these highlights, he's getting the better

608
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 1: of these exchanges. But you see him marching down on

609
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: Vishal taking shots to get in range. You know you

610
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: do that against Patucio pit Bull, you're gonna end up

611
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: looking at the lights dud enough times, right, So he's

612
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: a viceal is not the power puncher or the accuracy

613
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Speaker 1: the accurate puncher that Patucio Pitbull is. However, to your

614
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: point about Emmanuel Sanchez, Wow, you know the he still

615
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: has well, I would say has two fatal flaws. One

616
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: it gets in a little bit too. He's not exactly

617
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: the best finisher, but the way in which he was

618
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: able to get pretty goddamn close against a super top experienced,

619
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: talented veteran La Daniel Weischel was incredible to me. I

620
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: mean that second round was ten eight easy, almost ten

621
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: to seven, not quite, but getting into that territory, I mean,

622
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: he absolutely put it on him. The accuracy of his

623
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: strikes have gotten better, his overall physicality has gotten better, right,

624
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: not just with his punching power, but the intensity of

625
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: his wrestling. He was always good at being an everyman.

626
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: He could do every job pretty well. But now he

627
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: has up the danger, he has up the intensity, he

628
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 1: has up the physicality, and he's up the precision of

629
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: what he's trying to do. Still think he's got some

630
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: defensive issues that might cost him against pit Bull. So

631
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna favor the best fighter in beltar history over him,

632
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: But this is a I'll say it. I didn't think

633
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: the fight for Carvolio was this way at all. He

634
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: was a very winnable fight for Emmanuel Sanchez. He can

635
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: absolutely get this done. And if he can find a

636
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: way BC to weaponize his cardio in the way that

637
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: he has so he makes Pitbull work, dude, look out.

638
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: He could do something spectacular.

639
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: I mean, he was in Vichel's face for a long stretches, Luke,

640
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: just variety of flurries of all different kinds of strikes,

641
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: and I think the best thing he showed was anytime

642
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 2: Vichel landed, and he did. You're right, Sanchez can get hit.

643
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: Sanch just walking right through that stuff like it wasn't

644
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: even there. So he's in a peak moment in his career.

645
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 2: The determination, the belief in himself, the variety of strikes.

646
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: As I mentioned, this should be fun. And I got

647
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: to shout out this tournament here, Luke. This featherweight one,

648
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: which which was double the size of the previous two

649
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: recent Grand Prix we'd seen from Bellatour, certainly did not

650
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: have the sex factor of the welterweight one, which had

651
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: some of the best fighters in the world, with Lima,

652
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: with Rory, with the idea that we didn't know how

653
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 2: good MVP was and he was going to be in that.

654
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: And then obviously the heavyweight one, which was a nice

655
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 2: mix Luke of old expired food that that just tastes

656
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: so good and you know, potentially an opening for somebody

657
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: like Ryan Vader to do exactly what he did. This

658
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: featherweight one didn't really have a face to it outside

659
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: of like, okay, Pipule's in it and he's got to

660
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: defend the title. And oh, by the way, Luke, let's

661
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: let's just stay here for a second. Belatour, don't make

662
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: it easy. I'm the champion. I mean, your pit bull,

663
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: you gotta go five rounds every single time, and every

664
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: fight that you're in, it's the title fight. It's the

665
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 2: it's it's the championship final for whoever you're facing, right,

666
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: you know, it's almost more you know, it is more

667
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: important than the tournament, you know. I mean, if carv

668
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: Io wins Thursday night, screw the rest of the tournament.

669
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: He just became champion. Now, look, I know how it works.

670
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 2: He'd have to keep moving on and defending. But you

671
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 2: get my point there. I think that what has happened

672
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: here and how this has played out is perfect. These

673
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: final two matchups, which of course will be pit Bull

674
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: and Sanchez in the rematch as we just laid out,

675
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: and AJ McKee against Darian Caldwell on the other side. Luke,

676
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: this damn good. This is This is about as good

677
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: as you could hope for if you're belatour and if

678
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 2: we end up Luke, and who knows if both will

679
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 2: make it, But if we end up with Caldwell and

680
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 2: pit Bull, I'm here, I'm getting buckled in, Luke, give

681
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: me that, give.

682
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: It to me or even McKee. Don't look past McKee

683
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, there's a lot of different ways you

684
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: can go. I mean, bellatore overall, and this is not

685
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: some kind of revelation, but it clearly does not have

686
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: the quality UFC does, and it's not especially close. However,

687
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: what they have is in certain situations they have very fun,

688
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: very competitive, very talented divisions. Welterweight, I think, is one

689
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: that's in the rebuilding process. We're not pub don't have

690
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: time talk about it, but the rslav Amazov and Logan

691
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: Storly fight was just sensational last night in proof of

692
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: that generation of Walterwitz. Okay, well, I'm saying it's proof

693
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: of that, like that welterweight division that they're they're putting

694
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: together and the youth movement they have there is just sensational.

695
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: And then at welterweight bantam way too by the way

696
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: for bell toour but excuse me, featherweight. You know you

697
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: can see that they just have so much talent to

698
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: work with. It'd be a shame to not showcase it.

699
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: And what better way to get folks to understand who

700
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: the dominant and interesting players are than to make some

701
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: kind of a tournament. Now, the COVID thing disrupted it.

702
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: It lost a lot of momentum as a consequence. But

703
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: to the point you're making BC, I mean, you look

704
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: at these fights last night, dude. That Beltore card was awesome.

705
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: Like Beltimore's had a bunch of duds since the return

706
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, Like there's shows.

707
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: That we're not hiding from that, we're not chilling out

708
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: for that. Okay, here's what I'm saying.

709
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: Listen, some of that's their faults, some of it's not.

710
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: You know, what are you gonna do? In UFC's had

711
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: some duds. UC's had some good shows too, Although UC's

712
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: had a really good pandemic run. But here's my point.

713
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: Last night was the first night since the return of

714
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: the pandemic. All was like, dude, that beltire show rocked.

715
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: All three of those fights in the main car were good.

716
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: You could have put the Pico fight there. The Peako

717
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: fight was great too, and the way he looked like

718
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: they've got some youth. Man, if you just go and

719
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: look at some of those right divisions one thirty five,

720
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: one seventy and some other ones as well, they got

721
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: some killers in there. And this tournament was a great

722
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: showcase for it. And I honestly, like I am thrilled

723
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: to see the Pitbull Sanchez rematch. Can't wait to see

724
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: next week with aj McKee and Caldwell and who they

725
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: end up matching up within the end. It's gonna be phenomenal, dude,

726
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: I really can't wait.

727
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are one of those times where you do

728
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: take the off to Scot Coker. They don't do everything right.

729
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 2: They can do certain things right. This was one of them.

730
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: Another one, Luke, was that third fight you mentioned the

731
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 2: welterweights unbeaten versus unbeaten. This was one of those two

732
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 2: colliding trains in terms of this fight. Will tell us

733
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: sort of which guy belator should back and start promoting heavily. Luke,

734
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: this a great ass fight, Yaroslav Amasov improving to twenty

735
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 2: five and oer which let's talk about.

736
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Luke.

737
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: You know it's the same thing when we talk about

738
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: Habib and say, well, maybe the first sixteen Hebib wins.

739
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 2: We're all against Russia. Nobody's again this mixed martial arts.

740
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't care if you're on the regional scene and

741
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: the cage breaks and somebody parachutes in the middle, or

742
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: justin kiss shitz or pants you go, you start, you

743
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: go undefeated this deep into your career, Luke, it's impressive.

744
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: There's a million ways to lose in mma. Amazov got

745
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: the test that we were looking for him to get

746
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: to get. I think both guys raised their stock in

747
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: this one, and Luke, I'm not even sure the judges

748
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: got it right. Let's talk about this. Amasov outstruck him badly,

749
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 2: but a lot of those is Josh and pointed out correctly,

750
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: was an exhausted fighter. Tap tap tap a ruin. Luke,

751
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: you know that will work with some judges as it

752
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,280
Speaker 2: won't with others. I saw a logan story, who pushed

753
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: the pace, made amasof fight his fight for good stretches

754
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: and kind of warm them out and guessed him out

755
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: by committing so heavily to the wrestling early. Who did

756
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: you have in this one?

757
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: So the third round was easy Logan story. Let's say

758
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: he lost the first two rounds, which is a plausible scenario,

759
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: there's no way he lost the third. In fact, he

760
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: took the back of Amasov and got close with a

761
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: couple of rear naked choke attempts where you could see

762
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: Amasov's face straining to deal with not merely getting the choke,

763
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: but he was getting bowed out on his spine, which

764
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: is very very uncomfortable and painful. And you can imagine

765
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: a four time All Americans got a fucking squeeze on him. So,

766
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, a very very very impressive third round effort

767
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: from Logan story. To me, it comes down to the

768
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: second round, first round, amazof third round, no doubt about

769
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: it is going to be story. It's the second round,

770
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: you know. Big Job was making a point was like,

771
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: who did more work to bring you closer to the finish?

772
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: And I guess the answer if you were looking at

773
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: that way, which I guess is how the scoring criteria

774
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: looks at it. The answer would be Amasov, but not really.

775
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: If you ask me, yes, he had a couple of

776
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: dars attempts, neither was especially close. Neither was really gonna

777
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: get you meaningfully towards the finish. To me, I look

778
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: at him more of like a really clever way to

779
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: do submission or positional dominance. Right, so it looks pretty good,

780
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: it's not really gonna get you there. And if you

781
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: actually asked who did the most work in that regard,

782
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: it would in the second round it would be Logan Story,

783
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: but he also got some punishment his way. It's a

784
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: close call. I scored it for Amasov, wouldn't have complained

785
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: for Story. I think your basic point, though, was correct.

786
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Both guys raising their stock. Amasof twenty five and zero

787
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: has beaten both Ed Ruth and Logan Story. He has

788
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: beaten Eric Silva, Gerald Harris, David Rickles. Give this guy

789
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: a title shot. He has done more than enough. And

790
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: Logan Story may have stumbled a bit last night, but

791
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: he is clear a force to be reckoned with it.

792
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy pounds some of the best scrambles

793
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: you're ever gonna see in any kind of high end

794
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: welterweight fight. If you didn't go see it, find a

795
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: way to do it. It was phenomenal.

796
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: Look when we went when they went to the cards, Luke,

797
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 2: I felt Story had a good chance, So I thought

798
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: he could have won that fight. And it's odd enough,

799
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: I thought he won him the fight. If you believed

800
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: stort Logan won this two rounds to one. It was

801
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: the round that he lost the first one that may

802
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: have won him the fight, Luke, because I think his

803
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: relentlessness in going to the takedowns did show that Amasov

804
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: can wrestle and can stop the takedown. But look at

805
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: warm out. I mean, Story was the guy who had

806
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: the better motor on this night. It's not that he

807
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: doesn't have a lot to learn, Logan Storley. He needs

808
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 2: to work on a striking and straight up, but he's

809
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: with the right team Standford MMA. He's got a guy

810
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: in the corner, Robbie Lawler, who absolutely believes in him

811
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: and is pushing him in camp. This guy's got a motor,

812
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: he's got the right attitude. I loved how angry he

813
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,240
Speaker 2: was when he lost it, Luke, because he came pretty

814
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: darn close to pulling that off. And like we said,

815
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: even in defeat, he made a big nnouncement of who

816
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: he is. Good to see this from Bellator.

817
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: Okay, because let me say this, let me say this

818
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: real quickly. BC. Put up that last picture. Whoever's running

819
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: the photos there, Gaff or Cory or whoever, the one

820
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: where Amasov is getting his hand raised. Put that picture

821
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: out there for just a second. I want to, I

822
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: want to. I noticed this last night and I was like, dude, no, no, no, no, no,

823
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: the one where's getting his hand raised. There you go.

824
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: Can we zoom in on the referee? Go back? Please

825
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: go back? Yes, you leave that one, that's fine. Can

826
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: you zoom in on the referee? Look at my man's

827
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: My man's got seven haircuts here going all at once.

828
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: He's got a mush Yeah, he's got a mullet, he's

829
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: got a fade, he's got like a part up top.

830
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: He looks like he's joining a rockabilly band. What is

831
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: Kevin McDonald doing, bro.

832
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: Well, look, when you're on the same card as Mike

833
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: Beltron Luk, you do need to step up your game

834
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: to get noticed, right, I mean, you're just another white

835
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: guy if you don't, so you don't have the Josh

836
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Rosenthal tats or the weed farm in your u on

837
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: your plantation. So you got to do something, Luke, to

838
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: get going. Here's what I did want to say that

839
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: Look again, we're never gonna lie who Beltore is right.

840
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: Some of it is smoking mirrors, some of it is

841
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: good young fighters who have a bright future. Some of

842
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: it is let's let's buy some old names and put

843
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 2: them out there for ratings. This was the kind of

844
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: fight you love, though, two guys that are homegrown that

845
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: they can build upon. Luke. It was the exact opposite

846
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: of the matchmaking in the UH in the what's her name?

847
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: Melendez fight that had you blowing up my text, Luke,

848
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: do you wanna you wanna? You want to play that card?

849
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: Now you want to? I'll just say very quickly, there

850
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: was this Carrie on Taylor Melendez, who is what four

851
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: or five fights deep into her career right now. This

852
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: is when you know you're not supposed to get necessarily

853
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: a huge jump in quality of an opponent, but you

854
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: should begin to get something a little bit tougher at

855
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: that point. And they gave her this woman whose last

856
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: name is King I'm not gonna sit here and brade

857
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: her except to say she had absolutely no business not

858
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: only being in this fight, but honestly in a belt

859
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: or cage at all. And I know she got some

860
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: kind of surprising win over somebody, and I think in

861
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: boxing or whatever, dude, this fight. They should not have

862
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: made this fight. They should not have made this fight.

863
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how the commission agreed to it. Within

864
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: ten seconds you knew by watching her movement King was

865
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: totally out of her depth. And honestly, the reason why,

866
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: like you know, you can't complain too much in the end,

867
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 1: is because she got submitted from the back, which you know,

868
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: once it went to the ground, she had no idea

869
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: what she was doing whatsoever. So she had this merciful end.

870
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: But like what if Carrie Antela Melendez wasn't merciful, you know,

871
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: that could have gotten really, really bad. And so in general,

872
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: last night was a big win for Belator, make no

873
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: mistake about it. The card was so fun to watch.

874
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: But I don't know how they came up with that

875
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: fight and why they made it, and that lady miss

876
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: King does not need to be in a belt or

877
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 1: cage ever. Again, not for a long time.

878
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: Beltre's got a few of those. Remember that guy from

879
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: the meat packing plant, that pud Jay Hager. Oh that

880
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 2: was great. That guy actually came to fight. By the way,

881
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 2: look we do have to talk about Aaron Pico, who

882
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: was in the preliminary main event on this undercar. So

883
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 2: the Aaron Pico experience, I think it's always must see.

884
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 2: I think as fun as balls, because whether he wins

885
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 2: or loses, it's like a reality show to see if

886
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: this greatest contender, greatest prospect, let's say, you know, really

887
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: the brightest prospect in MMA history, a guy Belzer signed

888
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 2: in high school. Can he figure out how great he is? Luke,

889
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: I felt like he turned a corner last night. And

890
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: it almost has nothing to do or not completely relying

891
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: upon the highlight you're watching now. This was a sensational

892
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: knockout of this fellow de Hazers, Absolutely sensational, and it's

893
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: made even better when you hear Pico talk afterwards about

894
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: how they studied coach Brendan Gibson. They studied this moment

895
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: right here in that call out of one for great stuff.

896
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: But almost remove that from the memory bank, Luke, to

897
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: make for Aaron Pico to be great again. For me

898
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: to wear a red Maga hat for Pico, He's got

899
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: to commit to the damn wrestling. But as Josh Thompson said,

900
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: very intelligently, use the wrestling in the great boxing, which

901
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 2: he's relied too much upon, together to compliment one another.

902
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 2: This was the best I've ever seen Aaron Pico. We've

903
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 2: seen him go in there, walk people down and destroy

904
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 2: them because his hands are just so good for this level.

905
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 2: But Luke, combining both elements. I mean, he beat the

906
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: crap out of Dazus on the ground multiple times. The takedowns,

907
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: the transitions, the savagery. This is the Aaron Pico that

908
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 2: used to get that people, used to get rock hard

909
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: with emotion. On to steal another j Hager quote, Luke,

910
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 2: this is the guy I think he's figuring out under

911
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,280
Speaker 2: Coach Jackson. Coach wink howt to be that guy again?

912
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 2: Shout out to the horse with the long dong. Piko's

913
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 2: for real now, Luke, It's time. It's time. He's for real, bro.

914
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, I still think he's got plenty

915
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: of development left to go. I mean, he's far from

916
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: a finished product. What the Jackson folks did was get

917
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: him to where he is supposed to be because he

918
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: did not have the development he was supposed to have.

919
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: In fact, the many ways it almost hurt him. He

920
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: talked about being broken by the time he ended up

921
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: at Jackson Wink in those words, the word broken, and

922
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: they began to piece him back together again. And I

923
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: know some folks are like, oh, he should be on

924
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: fighting you know better guys on the main card. You know, listen,

925
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: if his development had gone appropriately, I would say so.

926
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: But because he needed such help in getting the train

927
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: back on the tracks, fighting on a prelium card against

928
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, somewhat overmatched opposition I think is the right call.

929
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: It's not about this fight being like the test of

930
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: where he is. It's about each opportunity being another run

931
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: through the cycle as you begin to repair all the

932
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: damage from what was done before. And maybe he's at

933
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: the point now where it's time to begin to step

934
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: the things up a little bit. I don't know that

935
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: he's been fighting on prelim cards anymore, but he climbed

936
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,800
Speaker 1: to seven and three. He's got now ten fights. I

937
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: think he's about three four to five win streak at

938
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: this point. Whatever ends up being and he has finally

939
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 1: kind of he's fighting in a way that is smart, strategic,

940
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: speaks to his strengths, doesn't you know, ignore his weaknesses.

941
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: Still a couple of issues to iron out, getting a

942
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: little bit overly aggressive last night, but that's fine from

943
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: a fighter who still obviously has a way to go

944
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: in terms of his own maturation. But he is fighting

945
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: in a way that is the way he should be fighting.

946
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: What are you good at? Let's focus on what needs work.

947
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: Let's let's you know, let's put that away until we

948
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: can really bring that out as a strength, and let's

949
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: give you this developmental incremental improvement in opposition to get

950
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: you to a place where we know we can maximize

951
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: your skill. I give Belletzer a ton of credit in

952
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, the two point zero effort. They rushed him

953
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: too fast and by the way, his team is responsible

954
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: for that too, in washing him out there the first time,

955
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: but the second effort, don't rush it, do it slow.

956
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: I give him credit.

957
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: I give him credit personally, Luke, because when you come

958
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: in with that much hype, and let's not like if

959
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: you don't know his backstory, Luke, he's been like he

960
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: was like in a laboratory prepared for this moment, right

961
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 2: like he was, you know, a world class rank junior boxer, wrestler,

962
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 2: all this stuff. He was too good for his own

963
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 2: good early, Luke to be able to go into Freddie

964
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: Roach's wildcard gym and spar Miguel Coto and and hold

965
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: his own and have moments at like twenty years old.

966
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: I mean, look like he was a guy who came

967
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 2: in and I think that you have to throw shade

968
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 2: at at the team originally, and those who were close

969
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: to him do admit that that. You know, I remember

970
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 2: his pro debut, Luke, on that MSG card, the pay

971
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: per view for Bellator. He was in a weight class

972
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 2: too high against a guy who was too experienced in

973
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: Ian Freeman, and he got caught and submitted early. And

974
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 2: then he was matching himself too hard without rebuilding himself

975
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 2: and trying to go for knockouts like crazy. I give

976
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 2: him credit, Luke, because this is this could have been

977
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: a child star situation. This could have been Todd Bridges, right,

978
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: we could have saw Pico and the police blotder. Now

979
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: he figured it out, and he needed to figure it

980
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: out emotionally, and I talked to him like this two

981
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: wins now in four months since moving to Jackson's and

982
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: I talked to him early in the quarantine and everything

983
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 2: about that moved to New Mexico, like this guy friggin

984
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 2: loves horses, Luke, everything about that has calmed him down,

985
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: has sort of gotten him away from the negativity of

986
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 2: being pushed too hard in California and has helped him

987
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: figure out who he really is. And I give him

988
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: that credit for not crumbling after those defeats. Some of

989
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: those were devastating. They were absolutely devastating, and he's got

990
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 2: plenty of time to figure out not just an MMA

991
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: but also in boxing, where his eventual goal is to

992
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: win a title at a high level in both sports.

993
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 2: This kid's still special and to be able to come

994
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: over that roadblock and get back into strategy, he said

995
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: he didn't never had a strategy in the past. So

996
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: what they're doing down there at Jackson Wink. He's sort

997
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: of getting real time coaching for the first time in

998
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: terms of actually knowing why he's doing things. And you

999
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: saw in that post fight interview, Luke, when it catches

1000
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: up up here, he's got everything else, He's got everything

1001
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 2: else he needs. Luke this guy's gonna be scary. I mean,

1002
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 2: I see a lot of Michael Chandler in him.

1003
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: Do you see that a little bit? I think he's

1004
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of a different fighter, but certainly there

1005
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: are some parallels there. Yeah. I don't have much to

1006
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: add to that, except I think Brandon Gibson is a

1007
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: more than just a striking coach. I think he can

1008
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: be in the right circumstance as a leader of men.

1009
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: He's a guy who has told me about mistakes he

1010
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: made as a coach in his past and how he

1011
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: doesn't want to repeat those with the next generation of talents.

1012
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: And I think you're seeing, you know, it's not just

1013
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: the fighter getting better with the coach. That's good. You're

1014
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 1: seeing those coaches who in the you know, the aughts

1015
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: or the twenty tens were beginning to get better themselves.

1016
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: Now they're really leaning on, you know, a decade or

1017
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: more of being in the trenches there and bringing that

1018
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: prospect or bringing those those experiences to bear, and everyone

1019
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: is benefiting, and I think the sport's going to be better

1020
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: for it.

1021
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, let's roll on here. It was a

1022
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: week ago today on our last Friday show that the whole.

1023
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: Canelo Alvarez breaking news, the biggest star in boxing, the

1024
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: Mexican pound for pound king, Mexican superstar. We've seen some whispers,

1025
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 2: some rumors back and forth. Originally he was linked for

1026
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: maybe a one off fight against Caleb Plant with the PBC.

1027
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,879
Speaker 2: The latest reporting on Canelo Alvarez Luke, and this comes

1028
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: from Eddie Hern himself, who spoke to multiple outlets, is

1029
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: that Herman Mattrium Sport are currently negotiating the possibility of

1030
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 2: Canelo doing a one off with them against one hundred

1031
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 2: and sixty eight pound champion Callum Smith of England, Who's big,

1032
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 2: he's unbeaten, he's fun and aggressed. If Luke, this would

1033
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 2: be an interesting fight because there's a couple of interesting

1034
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: elements here. They're gunning for December eighteenth, nineteenth, or twentieth,

1035
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 2: depending upon the competition on those dates. They want to

1036
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: do it at att Stadium, Home of the Cowboys, in Arlington,

1037
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: and they want to do it back on his own

1038
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: where Mattroom's Sport of course has a giant deal with Luke.

1039
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: This would be pretty wild if Canelo could sue his

1040
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: promoter and network get them to basically throw up their

1041
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: hands and be like, yup, you want walk away, you

1042
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: get what you want. Call his own shots and have

1043
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: the first shot be back in his ex lover's home

1044
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 2: and do it in Cowboys Stadium and shrew to what

1045
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: Canelo is about do it in a difficult fight. I

1046
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 2: know Callum Smith isn't you know as proven, doesn't have

1047
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: this deep resume. But he's seven inches taller than Canelo.

1048
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: And Canelo has that bootleg secondary super middleway title that

1049
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 2: he won from Rocky Fielding. Callum Smith has the big

1050
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 2: boy version. So we hate in boxing that there's too

1051
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: many belts. He's actually going after the champion who has

1052
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: the big version of the one he wants. Look, this

1053
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 2: is the I mean, what are we gonna say bad

1054
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: about Canelo at this point? They're a pretty ballsy, big

1055
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: time move here.

1056
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm surprised to hear it, to be honest with you,

1057
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: When I read the report like you did, I was like, huh,

1058
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: that's interesting. You sue to leave the zone to go

1059
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: right back to the zone. How are they gonna have

1060
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: the money to pay you for the reasons that you left? Like,

1061
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't part of that. I don't get either, Although

1062
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: who the hell knows. I mean, there must be some

1063
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: kind of way that this is the canal work out

1064
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: if they were this far down the road. I don't

1065
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: mind the fight. I thought you did it. You're right,

1066
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: it's like Canelo is a much higher level attraction than

1067
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: Callum Smith. But for the weight class differences, there's a

1068
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: reason to be interested in it. It's just I could

1069
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: have sworn you know, maybe you feel the same way

1070
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: I thought he was turning the dizone page. You know,

1071
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: going into business with Eddie Hearn on some level you

1072
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: could sort of say for a one fight deal makes sense.

1073
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: But of course Herne is tied to de Zone. But

1074
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: I mean just sort of doing business with a you know,

1075
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: a a any kind of promoter in that space who

1076
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: has a reasonable level of visibility. I'm not necessarily surprised by.

1077
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: I just don't understand you left. Part of the reason

1078
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: why you left his zone was they were low balling

1079
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: you relative to what they had promised. How can they

1080
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: fix that unless it's like they can say, well, if

1081
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: it's one fight, we can give you more, but we

1082
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: probably couldn't do it again. Maybe there's somebody to be

1083
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: said for that. I don't really know. I thought he

1084
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: was headed to ESPN or Fox, maybe Showtime something like that,

1085
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 1: and maybe he will be for a long term deal BC.

1086
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: But to go right back, I don't know what to

1087
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: say except how is the money working out in the

1088
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: way that it needs to for this to be a

1089
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: real thing. Somebody please tart.

1090
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 2: Rapped up that deal that they promised, and the issue with.

1091
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: The issue, I know they ripped it up like I'm

1092
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: not under the I'm not laboring under the delusion. They're like, oh,

1093
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: let's go back to the old blueprint. But what I'm

1094
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: saying was part of the reason why they were having

1095
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: the money issues is Desoonne was saying, we were having

1096
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: financial difficulties. They're not having them anymore. Or is the

1097
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: idea that if there's just one fight we can poneing

1098
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: up a little bit more for that one fight.

1099
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 2: They couldn't afford the thirty five million per fight that

1100
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: they guaranteed. No one should be able to afford that

1101
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: this moment. I mean, you know, we're we're in a

1102
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 2: you can't even have fans in a live gay although

1103
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: obviously if they put this at AT and T Stadium, they

1104
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: want a certain level of fans. But the whole point

1105
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: here at Luke is by ripping up the deal and

1106
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 2: allowing Canelo to go, they basically said, you know, we can't,

1107
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: we can't win this lawsuit, and your reward is we don't.

1108
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: We're not gonna go down the road of fighting it.

1109
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: Just walk away. They wanted to sign them for twenty

1110
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 2: million per fight if they're the only network at the

1111
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: moment who can give him that immediate fight. He wants

1112
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: to come right back in December and make this happen

1113
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 2: and he can get twenty something million four. I mean,

1114
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: it's interesting. It is a little bit like you know,

1115
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: walking out in your family and then being invited back

1116
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: to Thanksgiving with your new girlfriend. I mean, it's interesting.

1117
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of reasons to believe that this

1118
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 2: is a one off and Canelo goes in the direction

1119
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: of maybe PBC and Al Haym and Luke and Dan

1120
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: Rayfiel formally ESPN now with Boxing Scene dot Com did

1121
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: report through his sources that it's most likely Canelo, who's

1122
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: talking to PBC at the moment, would end up, you know,

1123
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: doing some type of three year deal with them, and

1124
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: that would make a lot more sense Luke, and it's

1125
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: not just the fact that PBC would have the you know,

1126
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 2: network deals with Fox and Showtime to do traditional pay

1127
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 2: per view, and he's got a great history with Showtime

1128
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: as we know. But the fact that Al Hayman is

1129
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: a manager an advisor who you know, has has flipped

1130
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: the model upside down. He takes promoters and makes them

1131
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: you know, his bitch. He basically, you know, says you

1132
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: physically promote the fight. I'm just the manager, but I'm

1133
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 2: also kind of calling the shots. And what that might

1134
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: allow Canelo should he want to go the direction of

1135
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: what Floyd did in the past is you know, Canelo

1136
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: Promotions whatever that is, right, all these starboxers think they

1137
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: have their own promotional stable, you know that could potentially

1138
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 2: still be the lead promoter even though you're under the

1139
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: PBC managerial banner. You'd have to think that's much more

1140
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 2: enticing for Canelo at this point and then getting back

1141
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 2: in a long term deal with a single promoter, given

1142
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 2: how it went with Oscar and Golden Boy. And look,

1143
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: if you're looking for the network or promoter or pairing

1144
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,359
Speaker 2: that offers him the most potential big name opponents, it's

1145
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 2: certainly PBC. When you've got Caleb Plant and David Benavitez

1146
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 2: at one sixty eight, along with a deep division there,

1147
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: you've got the possibility of people like you got the Charlos,

1148
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 2: you got the possibility of somebody like Errol Spence moving up.

1149
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: And then you just have that complete and loaded one

1150
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty four pound division which might move up

1151
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 2: not just one half of the Charlo twins, but Jarrett Hurd,

1152
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: who we both love, is a giant junior middleweight and

1153
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 2: a lot more names there. I know Canelo's future isn't

1154
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 2: as likely to be at one sixty in the long run,

1155
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 2: given the weight challenges, but that's probably his best short

1156
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 2: term game here to switch to that, and if he did,

1157
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 2: look a lot of fun matchups you can make would

1158
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: be fun for us as well. Be interesting to see

1159
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: where this goes. I just got to say this, it's

1160
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: not that Canelo Luke and the public eye is undefeated.

1161
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: Right.

1162
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 2: He had the tainted beef gate of the second glove

1163
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: Can fight. Right, He's got the weird tattoos of his

1164
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: wife's eyeballs right there. He waited out Glovekin two years, right.

1165
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 2: I mean, there's he's done a couple fishy things but

1166
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:13,439
Speaker 2: for the most part, this is the Canelo era Luke,

1167
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: and he's always looking to fight the damn best and

1168
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 2: take chances. I have to salute Big Red, Thank you, Canelo,

1169
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: thank you.

1170
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's see what happens if he ends up fighting

1171
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,479
Speaker 1: in December. You know, I'm still a designed customer for now,

1172
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: so fine by me, you know.

1173
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: And Ryan Garcia, who's December fifth fight with Luke Campbell

1174
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 2: is postponed. He's trying to get on that Canelo undercard,

1175
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: either against Luke Campbell if you can make it, or

1176
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: even against Jorge Lenaris Luke, which would be a hell

1177
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,439
Speaker 2: of a last minute replacement there. That'd be a very

1178
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 2: fun fight that would still teach us a lot about

1179
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: who Ryan Garcia is, so follow that closely as we

1180
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 2: move forward, and to close Luke for our topics of

1181
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: the weekend, we do have a big boxing fight this

1182
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: Saturday on ESPN when Terrence Crawford unbeating your WBO. Well

1183
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 2: it'sway champion defense against thirty four year old Kell Brook

1184
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 2: who's coming in here on a three fight win streak.

1185
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 2: But Luke coming in here with the idea of is

1186
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: he shop worn? Is this the beginning of the end,

1187
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 2: is he cashing himself out? I had him on Morning

1188
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: Combat last week, we did, or you know, I talked

1189
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: to him, and he's in the best shape of his life.

1190
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 2: He's got a new promoter, he's got a new trainer,

1191
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 2: he's blah blah blah. I believe we're gonna get the

1192
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: best of what's left of Kelbrook. Will that be enough

1193
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,479
Speaker 2: from what you've seen of Bud Crawford at one forty

1194
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: seven to have any any dent in what he's doing?

1195
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: No, I for some reason. I mean, I wouldn't say

1196
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 1: I have antipathy towards Bud Crawford. That would be overstating things.

1197
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: But this idea that like, I mean, guys, he's a

1198
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: minus seventeen hundred favorite, kel Brook is over a plus

1199
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 1: one thousand in multiple places, you know, and actually in

1200
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: the boxing odds are a little bit different, right, So

1201
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: because you can have a guy who could be a

1202
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: let's say even a plus five hundred, and that could

1203
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 1: be live dog territory. So this is not the exact

1204
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: same as MMA being where you're if you're a plus

1205
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: one thousand MMA, I mean, you're basically fighting your grandma

1206
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: or something, right, So it's not that kel Brook has

1207
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: had his time in the sun in certain ways. But

1208
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: Bud Crawford, who is in you know, argument for top

1209
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: pound for pound fighter, you know, I don't. I don't.

1210
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the argument would be other

1211
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: than Bud Crawford is unprepared. A guy, as we talked about,

1212
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: can switch it. He can fight from opposite stances. Who

1213
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: is smart, He's got good power, he's experienced, He's patient

1214
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: when he needs to be. He can step on the

1215
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: gas when he needs to. Kel Brooke, it's just not

1216
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 1: you know more about boxing than I do, certainly be

1217
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: c But when I looked at the tape in preparation

1218
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: for today and I went back through when I was

1219
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: trying to there was nothing on there that showed me

1220
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: that this is a fight that not that couldn't be

1221
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 1: competitive in spaces per se, But like, what is the

1222
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: thing that kel Brooke can do or has shown an

1223
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: ability to do that gives you reason to think that

1224
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: Bud Crawford can't figure out a way around it.

1225
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 2: Well, the problem is the problem is that guy did exist.

1226
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 2: But he existed in twenty fourteen when kel Brook beat

1227
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 2: Sean Porter and came to the US and won his

1228
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: welterway title at his peak, Luke, I think Kelbrook's the

1229
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 2: perfect guy who can give Crawford fits. He's perfectly well

1230
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: rounded across the board. He's quick, he's strong, he's got

1231
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: good punch resistance. You know, outside of breaking his eye twice,

1232
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: he can land very craft full, hard countershots. He's patient,

1233
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: he's poised. There's a lot to love there. The problem, Luke,

1234
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 2: is that his only two defeats were damaging. It was

1235
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 2: when he moved up two way classes to fight Kelofkin,

1236
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: and he had big moments there, but he was at

1237
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: middleweight and he got stopped and his eye fell apart

1238
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 2: and he broke his orbitl bone. Then he goes in

1239
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: defenses welterway title in the next fight against Errol Spence,

1240
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: and you remember that fight, Luke, that was a fun

1241
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 2: ass fight for eight or nine rounds, pretty damn even.

1242
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: He gave it to Erol Spence as much as he

1243
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 2: got it in returned well. Then he broke his other eye.

1244
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: And since then, Luke, although he's three and oh with

1245
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 2: two KOs, he's had long wayoffs. He hasn't looked like

1246
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: the same guy, and he's had a lot of trouble

1247
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: making one hundred and forty seven. He in fact moved

1248
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 2: up to one fifty four there. So the whole idea

1249
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: is you're asking the guy at thirty four to cut

1250
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: back down and to be at a level we haven't

1251
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: seen in a while. I do think he's going to

1252
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 2: overachieve on Saturday. And I do think there's a question

1253
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: to say Crawford in that last fight against mean Machine

1254
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,919
Speaker 2: Kava Lawskis, was he just bored? Luke? Did he get

1255
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 2: surprised he got dropped? We never see Bud in any

1256
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: any kind of peril. He got dropped by mean Machine early,

1257
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: and I think that fight became a brawl. Nobody expected that.

1258
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: Did Bud do it because he loves to fight? Did

1259
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: he do it because he had to? I don't know.

1260
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 2: He still won the fight, Luke. He's still four and

1261
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 2: oh at welterweight with four KOs, but it hasn't been

1262
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 2: against great competition. I think Kelbrook is going to overachieve

1263
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: on Saturday. He's gonna have moments he's gonna make Bud work.

1264
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: But Bud Crawford is in this pound for pound number

1265
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: one debate for a reason. He's insanely good. Luke, once

1266
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: he makes that adjustment, once he switches to South Paw.

1267
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 2: Once he decides whether he wants to box you from

1268
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 2: the outside or walk you down, or some variation of

1269
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: he gets to you and he gets you out of there.

1270
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Speaker 2: He has made some bold statements. He has not a

1271
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: big talker. You'll see on my interview this week with

1272
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: him if you haven't checked it out. But he said, look,

1273
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: I've never been stopped before. I never quit. This guy

1274
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: has twice. He's done it before. He'll do it again.

1275
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna go in there and be spectacular. Yeah,

1276
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: I believe him. Look, I don't understand those betting odds.

1277
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 2: I don't know how he can be a minus seventeen hundred.

1278
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I mean, kel Brook still has

1279
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 2: a pulse. He doesn't need a walker to get, you know,

1280
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: to walk to the ring. He's got something left enough

1281
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 2: to win, No, no, not enough to win. But we're

1282
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 2: acting like he's going in there against you know, ce

1283
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: him punk. We really are. I don't get these odds.

1284
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: Lately, Luke the Ceum punk thing. Yeah, I mean I

1285
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: don't think Kelbrook is that again. I think you make

1286
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: a decent case for who he used to be. And yes,

1287
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: I saw the fight against Kawalawskis. I forget how to

1288
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 1: pronounce his name. Crawford looked to me like he was

1289
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: taking them lightly, but then after he got dropped, he

1290
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: was like, okay, time to call this one off, and

1291
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 1: then stopped him inside of the distance at the ninth.

1292
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: In fact, but Bud hasn't gone to a decision since

1293
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. He has stopped everyone else since then. That

1294
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: was against Victor Postall, who was, of course, back in

1295
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Excuse me, you know, was much more of

1296
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: a force to be reckoned with him. Even now he's

1297
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: still pretty good. So you know, you're talking about a

1298
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: guy who, Yes, maybe there's been better competition you could

1299
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: have faced along the way. Maybe he'll get complacent VC,

1300
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: But if you're just looking at skill for skill at

1301
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: the current moment, you know, God bless kel Brook. Maybe

1302
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 1: he gets it done and I'll come here on Monday

1303
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: at KRO like a son of a bitch. But I

1304
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: don't see it right now.

1305
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, come on, I making a minus seven hundred, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1306
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit. Yes, that'd be fine, yes, yeah,

1307
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: But I.

1308
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: Mean I'm seeing kell brook at like you said, I'm

1309
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: plus eight fifty plus one thousand. I mean, come yeah,

1310
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know about that, Luke. All right,

1311
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: all right, that is your topics for the week.

1312
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: Luke.

1313
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 2: Hey, let's have a little bit of fun here, Luke

1314
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 2: with a segment that we call dead Wrong.

1315
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should play like the Biggie stuff or some

1316
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: kind of version of it that we can get away.

1317
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: With because I'm ready to die. Yes, I'm ready remember Yeah, Okay, okay,

1318
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm with that. If you don't know, now, you know,

1319
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 2: this segment looks back over the week that was on

1320
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: this show, and not only says what we got wrong, Luke,

1321
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: but often our producer Jay and sometimes even the fans

1322
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 2: because they have challenged us many a time that we

1323
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 2: were wrong about something. You do the research, you find

1324
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: that they're dead wrong those mt first. All right, let's

1325
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 2: start right here, Luke, and we're starting where I started, Luke,

1326
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 2: torching the damn fans. You went back and check the

1327
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: video from last week's Dead Wrong, where you were accused

1328
01:01:36,920 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: on the Joe Rogan podcast of trying to make the

1329
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: case that Jan Blohowitz fought at UFC at middlewaight before

1330
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 2: moving up to two o five. It turns out it

1331
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 2: was actually Joe Rogan and to double down here, I

1332
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 2: also questioned your take on Hami Mongia calling him maybe

1333
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: the biggest puncher in boxing. You're saying not only me,

1334
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 2: but all of our fans just didn't listen to your words.

1335
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 2: The floor is yours, Luke, who's wrong?

1336
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: Oh? The fans deserve I mean listen. This whole segment

1337
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 1: is built around the idea that you and I, as

1338
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: imperfect creatures, deserve to get whacked by the stick of

1339
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: truth when we stray from the path BC. And if

1340
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: I don't get whacked after this, it'll be the next

1341
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: time we do it, and the time after that, and

1342
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 1: the time after that, it will be a perpetual walk

1343
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 1: over glass for you and I because we are errant,

1344
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: fallen creatures. And I understand that, and I accept that,

1345
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: but the audience needs to understand. You come at the King,

1346
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: you best not miss. Two claims were made of me,

1347
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: made about me when I went on Rogan show that

1348
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: are absolutely demonstrably false. First, they said that what I

1349
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: said was that Honeymoon Gea was the biggest puncher in boxing,

1350
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: didn't no, I said. I said, okay, well you didn't

1351
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: listen either, because if you go back and listen explicitly

1352
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: I say that and I go, then I go by weight, right.

1353
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: I I was listening for my name, Luke. Sorry, never

1354
01:02:58,120 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: heard the.

1355
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: Cry more about that, will you? But the point is this.

1356
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: You can debate about whether or not that is true

1357
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 1: about relative to his weight class, he is or isn't

1358
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: the biggest puncher, and that's fine if you want to

1359
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: disagree or say that particular claim is wrong. But the

1360
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: idea that I'm sitting here fucking floating, the idea that

1361
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 1: he's somehow on par with Deontay Wilder or some shit,

1362
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: is just the invention of people who lack listening comprehension skills.

1363
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: Number one. Number two, Those same people who lack listening

1364
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: comprehension skills told me, apparently on the show last week

1365
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 1: that I was the guy saying that Blakhovich fought at

1366
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: one eighty five. I said, you know, I've never thought

1367
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: that in my life. How could that be? So I

1368
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 1: went back and I looked at the tape. Dead fucking wrong.

1369
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: Rogan said it about Tiago Santos when we were talking

1370
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: about Santos and some other fighter in there. I guess

1371
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: it was Blovich or maybe with somebody else in the

1372
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: record there a. I don't know what Rogan was talking about,

1373
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: whether the specifics of it, but b those words never

1374
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: came out of my mouth and I didn't even co

1375
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: sign it. I just let it rock and go on

1376
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: to the ether. I was studying something else when we

1377
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,440
Speaker 1: were looking at Blhovich's resume. So two times the audience

1378
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: wants to nail me to the wall, and two times

1379
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: they got it totally fucking wrong. Let me tell you something, folks.

1380
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: I'll be wrong a million times. I probably said some

1381
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: wrong shit today, but you come at the King you

1382
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: best not miss you fucked up, You're dead wrong.

1383
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 2: Wow, this guy quoting Omar here, I wonder if you've

1384
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 2: preferred the touch of a man say it's all right

1385
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: though if you do. Look, Wow, all you people that

1386
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 2: bought Luke's merch over the years and supported his career,

1387
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 2: F you. That's what Luke's basically saying. Sd all right, Hey,

1388
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: Luke did get most things right on Joe Rogan. However,

1389
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 2: on the Joe Rogan podcast, Luke had mentioned the top

1390
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: Mexican holidays for boxing, which of course, are Sinco de

1391
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: Mayo May fifth weekend and Mexican Independence Day second weekend

1392
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 2: in September, which Luke has called Mexican New Year, not

1393
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 2: just on The Joe Rogan Show, but on this one

1394
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: as well. Who gets Independence Day?

1395
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: Not? Yes, I know, I know that. I was like,

1396
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: I know that, but I stated it wrong. I'll take

1397
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 1: the l there. Whether you know it or you don't,

1398
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: you gotta state it correctly. Fine, I'll take that l

1399
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 1: I deserve it.

1400
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: What are you gonna what do you build a wall

1401
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: now to? I mean what innhold right?

1402
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: And you know what showtime' is gonna pay for it?

1403
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wow, there's a documentary about that. Yeah. Uh, Luca.

1404
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: I had mentioned on one of our episodes this past

1405
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:31,919
Speaker 2: week the overused tougher than a two dollars steak, uh

1406
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: you know reference, and I said that was a stone

1407
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 2: cold one. Steve Austin, it's actually Jim Ross, the Hall

1408
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 2: of Fame w W announcer, current voice of a e

1409
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: W who overuses the ship out of that shout out

1410
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: to you, Jim Ross. It's Steve Austin who says, uh,

1411
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 2: like a like a long tailed cat in a room

1412
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: full of rocking chairs, and he also loves the I

1413
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: don't know whether to ship or wand my watch cliches,

1414
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 2: so shout out to uh.

1415
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: What does that? What the fuck does that even mean?

1416
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. We all have our tropes, we all

1417
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 2: have our things. Luke's Luke Thomas has a bunch of them,

1418
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 2: if I may, right, Uh, you know, uh, producer credit,

1419
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 2: I've got ip credit on this show.

1420
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: No one has more grievances about things I'm doing than you.

1421
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: That is amazing.

1422
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's not long before we changed this show

1423
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: from MK to BC or maybe BBC.

1424
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: All right, By the way, I'll say you're dead wrong

1425
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: for that because you say you're big Beige Brian Campbell.

1426
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be triple B? Aren't you just stealing the

1427
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: triple C gimmick?

1428
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 2: Well you know BBC. Of course, Luke sounds a lot

1429
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: like we all know.

1430
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't work.

1431
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't work if you're if you're big Beige Brian,

1432
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: I'm long, I'm strong, and I'm about to get the

1433
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 2: friction on. Okay, ladies, so there you go. If you

1434
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: want to drive in my Mercedes, Yeah, all right, hey, Luke,

1435
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: h let's talk about people shitting their pants in the cage.

1436
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: We made reference, of course to justinees forgettable moment against

1437
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: Felice Herrig when she got choked and shatter pants and

1438
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 2: kept fighting. And the smell, the stench. We have a

1439
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 2: lot of people go, how can you mention that without

1440
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: bringing up the Cuban missile crisis? When Joel Romero wearing

1441
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 2: the purple shorts may or may not have shit his

1442
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: pants against Derek Brunson. Luke, we got multiple requests on this,

1443
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 2: so our one of our trustee MK producers, Mikey Mormal

1444
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 2: and I became Shitlock Holmes and we went and we

1445
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: investigated this, Luke. Okay. We looked at the tape, We

1446
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: looked at the interviews. Although Derek Brunson did get give

1447
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:43,479
Speaker 2: an interview shortly after this twenty fourteen fight and say

1448
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: that he thought he smelt it, Romero went on the

1449
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 2: record in subsequent interviews and said, no, that was water

1450
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: that my corner poured down my back, and with the

1451
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: purple trunks getting soiled around his ass crack it it

1452
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: browned a little bit.

1453
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: Luke.

1454
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 2: Okay, So you know what, people, you are dead wrong.

1455
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 2: He didn't shit his pants, Okay, Luke, all right.

1456
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: He just just look at this thing on the screen.

1457
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 1: Put it back up there, Put it back up there.

1458
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: Gaff I just want to point out if I had

1459
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: told you a year ago, this will be our future

1460
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,919
Speaker 1: dead wrong number four on a Friday, MK no mention

1461
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: of Joel Romero on shit pants.

1462
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, it didn't stop there because Mikey Moremile, our

1463
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 2: trusty producer, goes, don't forget BC betch Kohea shit her

1464
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: pants in the knockout lost to Ronda Rousey. Everyone knows that.

1465
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 2: So your boy shit cock holmes here, Luke put on

1466
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 2: the glasses and I went deep. Turns out that was

1467
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 2: a little bit of a thing on the internet following

1468
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 2: that fight. Actually that fight was twenty fourteen, not the

1469
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: Brunts and one, And it turns out it was photoshopped.

1470
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: The internet bit it for a while, but it was

1471
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: a picture of Rousey getting her hand raised with Koheya

1472
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 2: in the background, wearing white shorts, and there was a

1473
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 2: giant brown spot. That was photoshop. She did get sent

1474
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 2: to hell. She did not shit her pants, Luke. So yes,

1475
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 2: that is where we're at, Luke, Okay, we are there.

1476
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 2: That is where we're at, all right.

1477
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,799
Speaker 1: I like how the fact checkers on this show somehow

1478
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: can't listen to the clear words that I say or

1479
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: don't say, but somehow are the most precise when it

1480
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: comes to who has defecated in their dungarees. Boy, that

1481
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: is that is something.

1482
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 2: Look, I want ship my pants in high school. I'm

1483
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:23,840
Speaker 2: not going to tell you more about the story, but

1484
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 2: it did happen, all right, it did happen.

1485
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll let that one go, which can.

1486
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 2: Probably get in Afghanistan or or somewhere.

1487
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: Right, Luke, I don't think I've defecated since I had

1488
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: any consciousness and memory in my pants.

1489
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: So no, you've pissed your pants as a drunkard, right,

1490
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 2: I've done that many times.

1491
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 1: Oh god, I've got some stories about urinating on myself

1492
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: that would just be thank you.

1493
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 2: Have you ever woke up the next morning and the

1494
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 2: person next to you had urinated all over the we're

1495
01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 2: going too far down.

1496
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: We're going no. But I've had some stories about waking

1497
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: up in a pool of my own urine next to someone.

1498
01:09:58,240 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: That wasn't fun.

1499
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's gross as well. All right, we'll let

1500
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: it this part out afterwards. Thank you, Luke, Fridays and Wednesdays,

1501
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: we enjoy no Jay Arron in our ear hole speeding

1502
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 2: us up. But Jay did Uh, Luke, can we talk

1503
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 2: about this? Can we have a family meeting here?

1504
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: You're the one, Jays If you are to blame for

1505
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: the Jay thing, I want folks to know I was

1506
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: on board with like him, like having a role. You've

1507
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: just invited Kramer into the house all day long at

1508
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 1: this point, and that is really I cannot take credit

1509
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: or blame for that. That's on you.

1510
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: Well we said it before, but it's worth saying again.

1511
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 2: Jay off camera is he's not it's not like he's

1512
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 2: not annoying, but he's witty, he's smart. He I mean, look,

1513
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: he's a he's a he's a fun guy to talk

1514
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 2: to and hang out with. Jay on camera is like, uh,

1515
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 2: I mean, do you have an equivalent, Luke.

1516
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, it's like it's like it's like

1517
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 1: he's working at the DMV. That's about how funny he is.

1518
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's right. That's right. Well, Jay, I

1519
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 2: created the Monster and Monday. Jay just he just threw

1520
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 2: himself onto the show. And one of the things he said,

1521
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 2: Luke during our very poignant and very you know, touching

1522
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: tribute to Alex Trebek, which included Reggie Jackson jumping into

1523
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: my lap. That it's fitting that Trebec and Connery would

1524
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 2: die so close together because Connery played Alex Trebek on

1525
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,880
Speaker 2: SNL in that famous skit. Uh No, he didn't, Luke.

1526
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 2: Sean Connery, the actor, was never in that sketch. Will

1527
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 2: Ferrell played Alex Trebek, while Darryl Hammond played the role

1528
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 2: of Sean Connery in that much repeated, much hilarious sketch. Jay,

1529
01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 2: just like when you came on here and told us

1530
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 2: that Bob Barker died, You're dead freaking wrong, bro, All right,

1531
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 2: all right, no escaping Joe.

1532
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: Jay is a dumb ass. Can we just like you

1533
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: know Jay is you know, he's he stupid? What do

1534
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,000
Speaker 1: you want to move? I mean it is all right, Luke.

1535
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 2: We close every Friday by touching them tips, just for

1536
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 2: a second, just to see how it feels. It's a

1537
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:56,839
Speaker 2: segment we like to call play the the the animation.

1538
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: Please tip to tip, Luke. Where we give advice, we

1539
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 2: recommend we tip of the cap to somebody. Luke, can

1540
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 2: you tip me off this week? Where are you going?

1541
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: Which direction.

1542
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: I have a great tip for you, and it's something

1543
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 1: that I just finished yesterday. So it's a TV show.

1544
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 1: But here's the good news. Actually, i'd argue some ways

1545
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 1: the bad news. Most ways the bad news. It's only

1546
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: one season. In fact, they're not even calling it a

1547
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: TV show, they're only calling it a mini series. Netflix's

1548
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 1: the Queen's Gambit. Man, I cannot give this a higher recommendation.

1549
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 1: What an incredibly well made show. The basic premise is

1550
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,840
Speaker 1: there is this girl woman who eventually becomes Her name

1551
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 1: is Beth Harmon, and she is an orphan who becomes

1552
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: a chess prodigy. It's only one season, it's only seven episodes,

1553
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: and that's it, so you can kind of get through

1554
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 1: it pretty quickly. Here is what makes it so special.

1555
01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: It is the most detailed. Okay, let me back up

1556
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 1: a second here. I have not found a television character

1557
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: more interesting in terms of how interesting I found Beth

1558
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: Hormon since Walter White. I mean, by far. To me,

1559
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: she is just a fascinating character. And that's true because

1560
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: of how she's written. It's also true by the way

1561
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: she's played by the various characters who player as she

1562
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:29,639
Speaker 1: grows up. Such a tremendous job. The way this thing

1563
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 1: is shot is spectacular. The person who was in charge

1564
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: of like costumes and clothing did an unbelievable job. B C.

1565
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: You'll appreciate this. The soundtrack is next level. I mean

1566
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: every detail on this thing in terms of how they

1567
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 1: did it is amazing. And now I know the basics

1568
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: of chess. I can play a little bit. I've been

1569
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: hustled in Washington Square Park. That's about the extent of

1570
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: my chest knowledge. Yet there was a guy who real quickly.

1571
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: There was a guy who was an international chess grand

1572
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 1: master who wrote for the New York Times, and in it,

1573
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: he says they hired Gary Kasparov and another high level

1574
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 1: chess player to design all the games. And what they

1575
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: did was they not only designed certain games and certain strategies,

1576
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: they actually took real games between real grandmasters like Spassky

1577
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 1: and Fisher, and they had the characters play it out. So,

1578
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: if you're a chess nerd, the way in which the

1579
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: chess looks is apparently super accurate because they're quite literally

1580
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: replaying some of the most famous games in history through

1581
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 1: the characters. Dude, let me tell you something. It's only

1582
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: seven episodes. Most are around forty minutes. Such a brilliant show.

1583
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: The side characters are amazing as well. Everyone's game was

1584
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: on a level this one could not give it a

1585
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: higher recommendation. If I tried go watch the Queen's Gambit.

1586
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 2: Wow, Luke, is it too smart for me?

1587
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, no no. They do what they're very

1588
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: good BC about making sure the chess was authentic and

1589
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: that you know they did they did, they did the

1590
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 1: game justice. But if you don't know, In fact, I

1591
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: would actually say it's almost better. Because my wife has

1592
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: never even played chess. I don't know how that's possible.

1593
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 1: She's like a backgammin expert, but it's never played chess.

1594
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: And so whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. So you're what

1595
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 2: we've learned this week from your life chat. You're secretly

1596
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: a teenage racketball sensation and your wife's got to go

1597
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 2: a world ranked player, well not.

1598
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 1: World ranked, but she can hold her own. But the

1599
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 1: point being is she was worried at times she wasn't

1600
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: gonna be able to follow. They don't make you worry

1601
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: about that, but they bring you. They bring you into

1602
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: the game and the stresses of it without making you understand,

1603
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, rook to G seven or whatever. They don't

1604
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: make you. They don't make you follow in that way,

1605
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: which is another amazing detail that they just somehow got right. Dude.

1606
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm telling you everybody from the casting to the acting,

1607
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: to the production, to the direction, to the cinematography to

1608
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: the post production edit, dude, everybody, everybody did their best

1609
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 1: work on this. I'm sad that there's not more of it,

1610
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,719
Speaker 1: but it's almost perfect because you get just those seven

1611
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,040
Speaker 1: episodes and then no more. And I don't know who

1612
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: this actress is who played Beth Harmon, but she fucking

1613
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 1: kills it. And her and her people in her life

1614
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 1: who they cast it, they fucking kill it. It is

1615
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: such a good show. Go watch it.

1616
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 2: Did I Buila get downe with it too?

1617
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 1: She's in Colombia right now, so no, she didn't watch.

1618
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: Does Bobby Fisher in there? Does he say anti Semitic

1619
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 2: things about the Shaf's family uncomfortably?

1620
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: So they did manage to cut out of Fisher. It's

1621
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: almost like Beth Harmon kind of lives Fisher's life in

1622
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 1: a way, sort of like it's not, I want to say,

1623
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 1: loosely based on it, but imagine a world where Fisher

1624
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 1: didn't and they brought it in this woman. It's kind

1625
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: of the role she would fill. But they do mention

1626
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of other famous grand masters figures in chess history,

1627
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,559
Speaker 1: well known strategies that actually exist, the Sicilian things like that.

1628
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,759
Speaker 1: It's amazing, It's really quite amazing.

1629
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 2: All right, all right, I will check it out, Luke,

1630
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 2: and I will get back to you in next Okay, tip.

1631
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 1: What do you got for us with your TI?

1632
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 2: This week? I wanted to tip the cap to the

1633
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: fine folks that the Kids Wish Network along with Olympic

1634
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 2: hero Usain Bolt. We mentioned it during last week's show

1635
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 2: that my son Isaac, who's battled so many health issues

1636
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: in CP and all that. I mean, he's a champion

1637
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 2: among among life champions in terms of the things he

1638
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 2: does despite his physical and mental limitations. Slot of you

1639
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: saw the video I put out on social media. Shout

1640
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 2: out to the great Elison Grisham for editing and filming

1641
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: that put it together. Luke, our family got to sit

1642
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 2: down with Usain Bolt for you know, half hour, and

1643
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,639
Speaker 2: he surprised us by, you know, saying they're gonna take

1644
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: our family on a cruise. And he doubled down and said,

1645
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 2: if you if you're willing to go to Jamaica, I

1646
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 2: would love to meet you.

1647
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1648
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,759
Speaker 2: This has just been a you know, one of those moments,

1649
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,040
Speaker 2: Luke that you just it's just you don't know how

1650
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 2: to respond to. You don't have words to describe what

1651
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 2: it means. And uh, my family to to yours and

1652
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: everybody else that that Uh, thank you for all the

1653
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 2: kind words of people that have watched the video and

1654
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 2: cheered us on, and uh, it's been a crazy story.

1655
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 2: There's there's a very deep backstory to my to my

1656
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 2: twin sons and all they've overcome. But to have a

1657
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 2: moment like this, to meet your hero, whether it's in

1658
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 2: a great program like this or what people do in

1659
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 2: the Make a Wish Foundation and all that, Uh, these

1660
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 2: are the moments, Luke, that that you'll never forget, and

1661
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 2: my son certainly won't and my family and you know

1662
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 2: myself and my family won't either. It was it was

1663
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 2: amazing and to find out that you know, even Usain

1664
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: Bolt has had some of the same health difficulties my

1665
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 2: son has. You know, he had his legs were different

1666
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 2: lengths when he was you know, to this day, which

1667
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: is something my son battles. Yet he runs cross country runs,

1668
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 2: you know, adaptive sports track and field, has run five

1669
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: k's and I you know, I did some research on

1670
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: Bolt Luke. He's got legs, different links and they don't

1671
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 2: know that, the experts, the doctors, the scientists, if that

1672
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 2: has helped him or hurt him? Meaning is he as

1673
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 2: great as he was winning double gold that three straight

1674
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 2: Olympics because of that, or could he have been even better?

1675
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:03,719
Speaker 2: It's wild and it's certainly a celebration of the human

1676
01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 2: spirit and overcoming. And look, I'm still like floating on

1677
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,000
Speaker 2: air from the whole experience. And it's really you know,

1678
01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 2: it's just a famous person taking thirty minutes out of

1679
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 2: their day and shout out to that great foundation basedund

1680
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 2: a bunch of toys our way. They're taking us on

1681
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 2: this trip. I mean, you know, what do I say?

1682
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 2: I'm humbled. It's amazing.

1683
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. So there's a video package that was produced by

1684
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: it and I showed it to my wife PC and

1685
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 1: she just thought your son was the sweetest kid, big smile, humble, driven,

1686
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: And I'll say this for you, saying, Bolt Man, he

1687
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:34,800
Speaker 1: didn't phone it in. Well, I mean it was a

1688
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 1: zoom call. But what I mean to say is he

1689
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: didn't phone in the energy. You know, he was friendly,

1690
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: he was engaging, he was talkative. You know, he seemed

1691
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: like he was really interested in doing something kind for

1692
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 1: somebody he didn't even really know, you know. So so

1693
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: shouts to your little one. Your other son too, by

1694
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 1: the way, seems like a sweet boy as well. And

1695
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: h yeah, and then your wife also seems like, you know,

1696
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: she was really touched by the experience as well. So

1697
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you guys going on vacation and the cruise.

1698
01:20:04,520 --> 01:20:07,000
Speaker 1: Just don't get the rona on the cruise, man, because

1699
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: apparently they tried that this week and people still got

1700
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: the fucking rona.

1701
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:12,639
Speaker 2: So I'm like, you know, how long do we have

1702
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 2: this great gift? Can we catch you in two years

1703
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 2: from now? You know, Yeah, we'll see what happens on that.

1704
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: But shout out to that. Look, I've been drinking this

1705
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,400
Speaker 2: knacko energy drink that Francis and Gano's pedaling no carbs,

1706
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 2: no sugars. We canna be fired up for MK, So

1707
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: tip of the cap to them as well for the

1708
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: free packaging.

1709
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:32,639
Speaker 1: Do you know what VA stands for? What you don't

1710
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: know what is it?

1711
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 2: No, I don't know what is.

1712
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: That?

1713
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 2: Good or bad? Look what am I drinking?

1714
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: Those are things? Those are things you need. Yeah, hey,

1715
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 1: can I give a quick shout out? Can I give

1716
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 1: a quick shout out to Morning Combat No Context on Twitter? Yes,

1717
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 1: you can follow them at MMA underscore no underscore context,

1718
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: but it's Morning Combat No Context. You should go look

1719
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: at their last week. This is the dumbest show in America.

1720
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: Buy a million miles, NBC or Triple BC. I'd have

1721
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 1: it no other way.

1722
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Luke, thank you. You know who

1723
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 2: would have thought?

1724
01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 1: Look when did When was the first episode of MK

1725
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: July of twenty nineteen?

1726
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, like right after July fourth, right, I was in.

1727
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 1: Vain, you know it. It was the It was the

1728
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: monday after Jones fought.

1729
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: Uh Thiago No, Thiago baby Thiago?

1730
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 1: Right. I don't remember a fuck. I don't remember.

1731
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: Yeah it was Thiago Santos. I forgot what the Colemaine was.

1732
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 2: I remember it being pretty good. I was out there,

1733
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: Luke where a year plus into this and it's it's

1734
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 2: just it's going places. So thanks to all the people

1735
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,640
Speaker 2: in Luke we have we teased it, but we do

1736
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 2: have an announcement that next week, Luke, Tuesday, I believe

1737
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 2: is the day, the morning combat. What are we calling it, Luke?

1738
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 2: Are we calling it a documentary? Is that what we're

1739
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:52,200
Speaker 2: calling it?

1740
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 1: Uh? The I don't know that was the release date.

1741
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,880
Speaker 2: Our folks here at Showtime and Malca have put together

1742
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 2: a heck of a little piece of business. I've seen

1743
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 2: little samples of it, detailing Luke, our our return home

1744
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: to the Jersey City swamps for for that pay per

1745
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 2: view week just a couple of weeks back. So Tuesday ish,

1746
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: they're saying, Luke, Okay, a soft not a hard, not hard,

1747
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: a soft launch maybe Tuesday, but Luke, you know, just

1748
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 2: just celebrating this show, the eccentricity, the weirdness. They sat

1749
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 2: us down for interviews.

1750
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: Luke.

1751
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so hopefully we could Lae, Luke. One of these days.

1752
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: We're either gonna get fired or we're gonna hate each other, right,

1753
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,839
Speaker 2: nothing less forever Mike and the Mad Dog broke up. Okay,

1754
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 2: but until then, Luke, this is this is the best

1755
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: thing going in my life.

1756
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 1: Okay. Listen, Axel and Slash had to take time apart,

1757
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: and I suspect when we are selling out stadiums will

1758
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:46,680
Speaker 1: eventually crash in, you know, a Montreal hotel, and Metallica

1759
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: will have to open for us. But until that day,

1760
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 1: it's you and I, buddy.

1761
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no other duo in this game, and there's

1762
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 2: a lot of good duos out there, no other duo

1763
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 2: that can do what we do right here, right now,

1764
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 2: tip of the cap to us, Thank you, thank you.

1765
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 2: Look at this, Look at this? All right? All right, Luke,

1766
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 2: look at that? Look at that.

1767
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 1: Wow.

1768
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, that's the show for this week. Please buy

1769
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 2: our merch, watch our shit showtime dot com thirty day.

1770
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,839
Speaker 1: I can subscribe, like and subscribe.

1771
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 2: Enjoy the fights this weekend. Might do, we'll see what happens,

1772
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 2: Might do a little reaction Saturday night to the Terrence

1773
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 2: Crawford fight. But of course we'll be back Monday for

1774
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 2: all your weekend reaction to all the fights for Luke Thomas.

1775
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,439
Speaker 2: My name is Brian Campbell. May all your ex lovers

1776
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: be satisfied because they're no longer with you. Okay, your

1777
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 2: hot loyal Okay, May you never wake up in a

1778
01:23:39,920 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 2: pool of Luke Thomas's. You're in, We out