1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: pleasure of talking to one of the girls, Terrell Sizzle 3 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: Suggs going into the Ravens Ring of Honor this Sunday. Sizz, 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: Just how's that sounds? What's the ring of that to you? 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: Man? 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be totally honest, I haven't even grasped like 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 3: the magnitude of this thing, you know what I'm saying. 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 3: Like it's just you know, when when you're playing in 9 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 3: the stadium, you see all the names up there, and 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 3: you just you know, you think of everything that they accomplish, 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: Like I mean, of course you would love to, you know, 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 3: be amongst those guys, you know what I mean, have 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: your name in the stadium forever, and uh, you know 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: you just when you're playing, you kind of just kind 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: of want to live up to the names that you see. 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: You don't never. 17 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,959 Speaker 3: Think like that your name will actually be going up 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: you hope for But man, like I said, I'm just 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: truly honored. Man, Like I'm I'm I'm flattered. You know, 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: it's so much melody, you know what I'm saying, And 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 3: like I said, I haven't even taken it all And man, 22 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: just trying to enjoy it. 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: That's cool. Now, now you're a filmmaker script writer. Have 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: you written your speech yet? I feel like you could 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: write an epic speech? 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 3: No, Like, uh, you know Chad Still, you know, he's 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: head of the media over there, and he asked me 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: about it, and I was like, I got to write 29 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 3: a speech. I was, I was thinking about writing one, 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: but I'm probably just gonna do it the old sizzle 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: sizzle raving way man and just wing it, you know. 32 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 2: Nice. Nice. 33 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: I feel like if we start putting some like video 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: boards of Ben Roethlisberger up there, that'll give you some inspiration. 35 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: You'll just start just going from the. 36 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: Couff Yeah, I definitely. I'll definitely step in the phone booth. 37 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 2: Then. I'm pretty sure I can come up with some 38 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: good one liners. And you know, you start. 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: Putting our you know, our battles with the stealer is 40 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 3: up there. 41 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I can come up with something. 42 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 4: But since you've come out of that tunnel many times 43 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: as a player, you know, felt the crowd, heard the 44 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 4: crowd of love, what do you think is going to 45 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: be going through your emotions? You know, coming out of 46 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: tunnel in this way, you know, a different way feeling 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: the love but going up as you know, in the 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: Ring of Honor instead of being you know, run out 49 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 4: of that tunnel getting ready to hit somebody. 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 5: What do you think it would be feeling on Sunday? 51 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. You gotta understand, like 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: this was never. 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: Like part of like I never imagine this, you know 54 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like I never imagine this. I really, 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: I truly don't know, and I'm kind of I'm just 56 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: probably just gonna, you know, like try to enjoy and 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 3: live in the moment, you know, with my kids. 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 2: And I don't know how I'm I feel. I don't 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: know how I feel, but. 60 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 3: I know one thing, we better win because they would 61 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 3: definitely spoil it for me if you know, it's my induction, 62 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: you know, and we don't win the game. 63 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like you. 64 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: Know when people people back, you know, like the parlay, 65 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: like one thing's gotta happen to get the other or 66 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: something like that. Like I think that they would kind 67 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: of it would be taken away from it if we 68 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: don't win. So I hope, yeah, I hope the boys 69 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: go out there and win the game. Like that's most important. 70 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: Like I'm flattered to be going in. But you know, 71 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 3: as you know, as a die hard, you know, part 72 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: of that organization player, Like, we're still very emotional, even 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: the guys that don't play, you know, us guys that 74 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: don't play, the more we still emotionally attached to the team. 75 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 2: You know, we look at it and. 76 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: It's like we're supposed to be six and oh, we're 77 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 3: supposed to be six and oh, you know, like we're 78 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: supposed to be six and oh. But like all right, 79 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 3: you know, the NFL things happen, you know what I'm saying. 80 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: But it got to handle business on their home field, 81 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Because we know the potential 82 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: of this team is, they just got to live up 83 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: to it. 84 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, it's it's interesting to me that 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: you say you never imagine this, right and you know 86 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: the career that you were having. Of course, I think 87 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 1: a lot of us are like, well, sis is going 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: to be in the Hall of Fame one day. You're 89 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: absolutely going to be in the ringer. We knew that 90 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: years ago, right years before your career was over. But 91 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: you said, you know, you're saying that you never really 92 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: thought that way. Why do you think that is? 93 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: Because I think. 94 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: When you walk in the Raven building, it's bigger than you, 95 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, being being part of that organization. 96 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: You know, yes, you had your personal goals, you got 97 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 3: things you want to achieve, but like the overall goal 98 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: is to win and to win at high value. And 99 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 3: I think we never we never lost focus of that, 100 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It was like every year, 101 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: you know, we wanted to be one of those teams 102 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: that always give remember, and you only be one of 103 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: those teams by winning the super Bowl, you know what 104 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying. So you know, and I look back at 105 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: all those times and it was like we let so 106 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: many championship teams just walk right out the building, you 107 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: know what I mean. And it's just like we were 108 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: always focused on what we were doing. It's like, you know, 109 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: when our time here is up, is up, and where 110 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: wherever it lies, you know, whatever your career is, That's 111 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: what happened. But it was nothing more important than what 112 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: we were doing at the time. Like, and we were 113 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 3: trying to win. 114 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 2: You know. 115 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going to hear a lot of great things 116 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: by yourself, you know, Sundy deservedly so. 117 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 5: But you played with a lot of great players and 118 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 5: a lot of guys. 119 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 4: If I asked a former teammate what kind of teammate 120 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 4: Terrell Suggs was, what would you want them to say 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 4: about you? 122 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 2: What would I want them to say? 123 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: I would want them to say that I was first 124 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: and foremost a great teammate. You know what I mean. 125 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: I was a raven through and through and that you 126 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 3: know I had their backs, you know what I mean. 127 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: We lose a draw, you know they can always depend 128 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: on you know, Sizzle to kind of be sizl monomilated 129 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: that have their back. 130 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: And and no matter what I would, I would hope, 131 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: no matter what. 132 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 3: We were going through as a team, I gave the 133 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 3: team what we needed, like from a locker room standpoint, 134 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Whereas we had a bad 135 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: loss and we know we need to bounce back, but 136 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: you know, everybody's a little on edge, you know, tensions. 137 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: Is you know high. 138 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 3: I hope you know I've brung you know a lot 139 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: of joy and laughter in the locker room to where 140 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: they was like, all right, let's get back to being 141 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: ourselfs so we can get this win. 142 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: This week. So all those. 143 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: Things I would want, you know, I will hope you 144 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: know my former teammates would say of me. 145 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: That's cool. Well, one thing that always stood out to me, 146 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: says is, I mean, obviously you're a great, great player, right, 147 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: but you were also a great, great entertainer, right, And 148 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: people like, forget that this is an entertainment business, right, 149 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: this is football, right, it's entertainment, And like you, it 150 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: was like you're a movie character, a character in your 151 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: own movie man. Like I just remember watching you stalk 152 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: the sidelines pregame before Steelers games in Hinsfield and you're 153 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: just nodding at the fans. You're like, yup, come on, yeah, 154 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: what do you got to say? Like those are some 155 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: of my favorite memories ever on any Ravens road trip. 156 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: What was it? Did you see it that way? Like 157 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: did you see like, yeah, not only do I have 158 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: to be a good player, but you know what, I'm 159 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: going to be an entertainer too, Or is that just you? 160 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 3: No, that was just me, to be totally honest with you, 161 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: like all that stuff kind of happened on a whim, 162 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: Like it was just as me being myself, And like 163 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 3: I said, I wanted to give the team a boost 164 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 3: of what the team needs. And it's like you never 165 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: want to lose to the Steelers. You know, we lose 166 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 3: to the Steelers, and especially if you know we lost 167 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: to them early in the season, and like you know 168 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 3: that second game, it's like you can't get swept, Like 169 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: you can't get swept, Like that's that's that's blasphemy, that's 170 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 3: against our relation. And they have like it's been a 171 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 3: couple of years where they swept. It's been a couple 172 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: of years when we swept them, and a couple of 173 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: a couple of years where we split, you know what 174 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 3: I mean. That's why the rivalry was so good. But 175 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 3: it's like I wanted to everybody know, like this game 176 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: is the game that that made me the player, like 177 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 3: after like you know when I got there early Peter 178 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 3: Bowl where you know, uh A, Davis Thomas bart Scott, 179 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: like those guys let me know early. Of course ran 180 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 3: ed and jo you know those guys let me know early, 181 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: Like this is the most special game in the NFL 182 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: Raven Steelers. You know what I'm saying, It's the most special, 183 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 3: especially in those days because you know, you had hard 184 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: hitting and you had you know, superstars on on on 185 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: both sides, but are like in that game, it was 186 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: primarily defensive guys, you know what I'm saying, And that's why, 187 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: you know, the rivalry was what it was, you know 188 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And like I just like you want 189 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: the young guys to know how special it is to 190 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 3: play in this game, you know what I mean. A 191 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: lot of a lot of people gonna come and go, 192 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: you know, you know, on the team, but you're not 193 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: going to be a part of it. It's not too 194 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 3: many times you get to be a part of Raven Steelers. 195 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: And besides M and T Bank, you know, everybody knows 196 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 3: it was Heinesfield then I don't know what it's called now. 197 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 2: For something. Heinesfield was like my favorite place to play. 198 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 3: And I love being the bad guy there and I 199 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: love seeing them leave early, like after you know, whooping their. 200 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: Ass like it was. 201 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 5: It was. 202 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: It was a fun time. 203 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 3: That's why you lined up to play football for games 204 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 3: like that, and it was just special, man, And it 205 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 3: was just like, all right, I'm gonna do something a 206 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 3: little crazy. 207 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. 208 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 3: And usually you know, Helodi came to come up with 209 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: the idea of something like Hellodi came up with the 210 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 3: with the gladiator helmet like I had it, and I 211 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: was like, I was like, I'm not gonna do it. 212 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do it because we had lost to Cincinnati, 213 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 3: you know, the week before, and he was like, NOA 214 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 3: says we need a boost, you should do it. And 215 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: you know it was it was my it was my 216 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: brother Alodi. 217 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 2: He was like, SI do it. 218 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, I'll decide as we're 219 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: going out and I just decided at the last minute, 220 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna do the gladiator thing. So you know, 221 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: it's like if the team needed something, you know, it 222 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: was just like it's raven still and that's usually when 223 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: I came up with something that that that game brings 224 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 3: the best and the worst at it. 225 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: What did you feel like when you were in trell 226 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: Sugg's Villain Men, Like when you were in Hines, tell 227 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: us what was surging through your It's. 228 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: The greatest feeling in the world. It's the greatest feeling 229 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: in the world. And like, yeah, they yelling at you, 230 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: and it's partly because they have a little nervousness. 231 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And that's a good thing. 232 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, like yeah. 233 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: You're confident in your team, but not so much like 234 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 3: you don't know, you know, this can go either way, 235 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: and you know we potentially can reck it, you know 236 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And like, I just I just love 237 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: that feeling I get, you know, just them yelling at me. 238 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 3: And it's crazy like since I've retired and since I 239 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: you know, I'm not playing anymore. Uh, Like Steelers fans 240 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: come to me all the time and be like, Yo, 241 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: we miss you. 242 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: Hey, they missed. 243 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 3: Having someone to hate, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 244 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: y'all still our rivals, but it's still not quite the same, 245 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. It was like we we 246 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: respect you, like we hate you, but we respect you. 247 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 3: And then I think that that's a big part of it, 248 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 3: Like it's a We've always had a tremendous amount of 249 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 3: respect for those guys. 250 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: And I'll always say it. 251 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 3: It was like I became you know, Terrell Subbs because 252 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: I had to play the Steelers twice a year, you 253 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's not just as Steelers. It 254 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 3: was playing in the AFC Nord, you know what I'm saying. 255 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: It was a. 256 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 3: It was a time there was no easy wins like Cleveland. 257 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: Even when they were having bad years, they were fighting us, 258 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: and it was like, you know, the way I feel 259 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: about the Steelers is the way Cleveland fans feel about us, 260 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: because you know, the Baltimore Ravens wasn't Cleveland first, so 261 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: they was like, oh no, we can't lose to the 262 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 3: to the Ravens. It's a rivalry game. And they stole 263 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: our team and they stole all our players. So according 264 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 3: to Cleveland fans, you know, ray Lewis, j O ed Reed, Bolden, 265 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson, all of us are supposed to be Cleveland Brown, 266 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: but man, we Baltimore Ravens, man through and through. 267 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 4: Now I'm say you're going to be a Hall of 268 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 4: Famer one day. Say it says you've got better numbers 269 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 4: than a lot of guys are in there. You know 270 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 4: a lot of guys, a few guys you've played with 271 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 4: already there. What does it mean to you thinking about 272 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 4: the prospect of that and how important is that to 273 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: you that you're recognized one day as I feel like 274 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: you should be amongst that group in Canton. 275 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: Uh, that would be truly humbling and truly flattering. I 276 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: try not to think about it, but you know it's coming, 277 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: you know, closer and closer to when I'll be eligible 278 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: to go in, and you I try not to think 279 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: about it, you know, because you know, Deon Sanders told. 280 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: A story and they like scared me. 281 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 3: It was like, you know, they'll invite you to Canton 282 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 3: in the hotel and you don't know if you got 283 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 3: in until someone knocks on your door. And some guys 284 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: don't get that knock. I mean, so like that just 285 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 3: seems like a horrifying experience, you know what I'm saying. 286 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why they do it that way. 287 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 3: It's so brude, and I'm like, oh no, I'm like, like, 288 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: you know, of course you want to be first ballot, 289 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: and but you know, you hear about story. It is 290 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: like that you hear about like Tyo story, like too, 291 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: it took him three years to get in, you know 292 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. 293 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: He had the numbers and everything like he. 294 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 3: Was you know, Terry was supposed to have been the 295 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 3: first ballot Hall of Famous for whatever. 296 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: Reason, he wasn't. 297 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:21,119 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't want to like if it happens, 298 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: like you know, the year I'm eligible. If I get in, 299 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 3: I'd be like cool, dope, But I don't want to 300 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: be so heartbroken if I don't. 301 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. See the guys this year 302 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: and a. 303 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: Lot of guys I play with, and I'm like, I'm 304 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: like so happy for him. I'm like, y'all, y'all didn't 305 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 3: get the y'all didn't have to wait. You made it 306 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: on the first That's dope. But like, I don't want 307 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: like I kind of want what I'm eligible. Somebody just 308 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 3: need to tell me different a different way, whether I 309 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: got in or not. 310 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. 311 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: I need a little previous. Yeah, all right, So I 312 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: want to go back to Steelers a little bit. And 313 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, Cliff asked you what you would want teammates 314 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: to say about you. What would you want Ben Roethlisberger 315 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: to say about you now that your career is over? 316 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: What would I want then to say that, you know, 317 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 3: I was a good player and I brung it like 318 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 3: I earned his respect, you know, because he definitely earned mine. 319 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: You know, he's a two time super Bowl winner. You know, 320 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: he'd been to the super Bowl three times, so you know, 321 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: I have a tremendous amount of respect for Ben Roethlisberger. 322 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 3: I don't have nothing, you know, bad to say about 323 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: the guy. He was an hell of a player, and 324 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 3: he he broke my heart a lot of times, you 325 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. But I like to say that 326 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: I probably broke his sometimes too, you know what I mean. 327 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: You know what I mean for sure, the thigh master interception. 328 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. 329 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: So you know, we have plays against each other, but 330 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 3: it's just like I loved playing against them. I loved 331 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: playing against them like I love of like where it 332 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: took me mentally, you know what I mean. 333 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: And I hope that. 334 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: You know, he would say, like, yeah, we built our whole, 335 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 3: you know, deep, our offensive game planning on stopping you know, sizzle. 336 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: So that's what I would hope they would say. Probably not, 337 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 2: but you know. 338 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: He probably said you did more than break his heart. 339 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: He probably say you broke a couple of ribs if 340 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: you a couple of times. 341 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: You know, we know we broke all of that, but 342 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: you know it was it was a good time. It 343 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: was a good time. 344 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: Probably not so much for him, but you know he's 345 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 3: got the rings to show for it. 346 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: So it worked out for everybody. 347 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: Well, you got two rings too, and you know you 348 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: got another one at the end of your career. You 349 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: went out like ray right on top, you know, and. 350 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 3: It wasn't my my typical storybook ending, but it was 351 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: the storybook ending. And you know what I'm saying, Like, 352 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 3: you know, every all of us, all of us wanted us, 353 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: especially that year, you know, I mean, they won the 354 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: most games in France out history, you know, the Ravens. 355 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: Did you know? 356 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 3: It was the first time we had a league MVP, 357 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: So like that would have been a great year for 358 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 3: simple kind of ride off in the sunset, you know, 359 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 3: and that purple and black, but you know, it didn't 360 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: work out that way, but it all worked out, so. 361 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, do you I mean you always had 362 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: such a special relationship with Ozzie. Yeah, And I heard 363 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: you talking about how Ozzie was trying to get you 364 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: to come back in twenty nineteen, you know, and you 365 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: were like, I just can't do it, and you know, 366 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: you talked about your mom and stuff like that, and 367 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: so obviously totally understandable. But you know, I would imagine 368 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: that Ozzie's probably going to induct you into this Ring 369 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: of honor this weekend. Can you talk about the relationship 370 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: that you and Ozzie always had. 371 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 3: Man, Ozzie had a special relationship with all his guys, 372 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: Like you know, Ozzie knew some guy, you know what 373 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 3: I'm saying, And like you know Izzi, you know, like 374 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 3: like Ozzy is like that line in the Wolf of 375 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: Wall Street and he was like, don't judge me by 376 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: my winners, judge me by my losers. And you know, 377 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: Ozzie's drafted what three maybe four Hall of Famers. You 378 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, jo Ed Ray, what do you 379 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: call it. I'm not We're not gonna think he was 380 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: saying me. But you know, Mark was probably gonna end 381 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: up getting in there. Lamar's probably end up getting in there. 382 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: Like you know, Ozzie records speak for hisself. And but 383 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: not only that, Like from the moment you get that 384 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: call from Ozzie, you become an Izzy guy. 385 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: You know, he's like a Sarahate. 386 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 3: Father to you, you know what I'm saying, especially like 387 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 3: when you're having him down years Ozzie, he know how 388 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: he knew how to talk to us, you know what 389 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: I'm saying. 390 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: He had just and they don't take. 391 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 3: Much and he'd be like all right, I'm on it, 392 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And and and Ozzy understood and 393 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: especially because he's played you know, he's one of the 394 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 3: greatest tight ends ever to play the game. Like I 395 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: think he just understood us more. And like we you know, 396 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: all of us, none of us had anything bad to 397 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 3: say about Ozzie News. We all love him, and like, 398 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: you know, it's a family. He's definitely a family and 399 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: that organization and around that building. So I love Oz 400 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 3: And like, you know, it was a rumor he was 401 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 3: leaving the year before, and I was like, well, hit 402 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: if I guess that means I'm out here too, you 403 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. You know, he came back for 404 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: another year, you know what I mean, my last year there, 405 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: and then he was like, yeah, this is pretty much 406 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: gonna be my last year. 407 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 2: And so with Ozzy kind of leaving. 408 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 3: It was just so much uncertainty, and I was just like, 409 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 3: I think this would probably be the best time of 410 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: any to kind of turn the page. You know, you know, 411 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: he's stepping back, you know, Ray's going, Ed's going, Hello, 412 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 3: He's going. Marshall was still there, but you know, we 413 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 3: both end up eventually leaving. So it was just a 414 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 3: good time to turn the page and it started, like 415 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: you know, Izzy stepped back. So it was just like 416 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 3: all of us were like, okay, you know but like 417 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 3: I said, he's like a surrogate father, you know what 418 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 3: I mean, And we love ours and we all take 419 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: that that that you know that that title being one 420 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: of Ozzie's boys kind of to heart, like we love that. 421 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, your relationship with I started when you 422 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: know he drafted you. You fell the tenth in that draft. 423 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 4: I'm just curious how pissed were you to fall the 424 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 4: tenth because we know we had a draft do over. 425 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 4: Now there's no way your number ten pick. And looking back, 426 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: how much of a blessing did that trying to be 427 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 4: for you? That even though you fell the tenth, you 428 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 4: ended up with the Ravens. 429 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: Right, Like, I don't I don't see it as falling 430 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: the tenth. Like of course, when you're coming out out 431 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 3: of you're coming out of college, you know what I mean. 432 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 3: You you you got everybody where they proticted where you're 433 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 3: supposed to go, and yeah, like yeah, I want to 434 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 3: go to to Arizona. But like when I got drafted 435 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: to Baltimore, Like my whole football destiny changed, Like we're 436 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: not having definitely not getting inducted into the Ravens. You 437 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: know what I mean, finner, but you probably never hear 438 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 3: if therell sas you know what I'm saying. It's because 439 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 3: of the tutelage I was under, like the guys that 440 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 3: was in that building, like that kind of helped me 441 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: become the best football player I could be. You know, 442 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: you can start with the players of course, Ray and 443 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: Ed you know, a Davis Thomas, like I don't think 444 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 3: he gets enough credit, you know, especially how he took 445 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: me under his wing. 446 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: A d Barr, Peter Bulwer, you know what I'm saying. 447 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: He was like he was the most scene out of 448 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: all of us. That's what you know. People don't know. 449 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: People don't talk about Pete because you know, he was saying, 450 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 3: like all of us was a little little we were 451 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 3: a little special, you know what I mean, we were 452 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: a little we're a little chaotic, you know what I'm saying. 453 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 3: You know, Pete, you know I mean I'm talking about 454 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 3: I had all I just had the best big brothers 455 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 3: one can have, Kelly Gregg, I got drafted with Jared Johnson, 456 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: you know, Kelly greg and Jerry Johnson, two of the toughest, 457 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: toughest players I've ever played with, just just flat out tough, 458 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 3: don't need no recognition. They blue collar guys. They show 459 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: up and they kicked the ass every day. And Mike, 460 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: Mike Pedton, I don't want to forget him. 461 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 2: And Rex Ryan and it was just like I had. 462 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: Everything I needed to kind of like become myself, you 463 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Anthony Weaver, like we were stout, 464 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 3: like we had we had a nice Christmas cause we 465 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 3: had a great personnel and O three when I got 466 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 3: there and the room was like it was full of 467 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: different personalities, you know what I'm saying. Like Rad don't 468 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: get enough credit about how he had to keep all 469 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 3: his soldiers in lieutenants in line, all crazy, you know 470 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. But it was a great time, man, 471 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 3: it was a great time. Like I wish we could 472 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: have solidified it with a ring, but you know that 473 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: didn't come. 474 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 2: Until twelve. 475 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: So yeah, this is got you gotta tell us a 476 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: little story here. John Harball today on the podium, he said, 477 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: ask for all suggs about when he left his shoes. 478 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: He didn't have his shoes for a Miami game that 479 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: first year, I think in two thousand and eight, do 480 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: you you remembering this? He said something about your cleats. 481 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: What happened? 482 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta I don't know that's what he said. 483 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 3: You know, I guarantee you once you tell me, something's 484 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: gonna come up. I'm like, oh, yeah, da da right now, 485 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened with my shoes? 486 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 5: All right? 487 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: Miami? 488 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 3: Remember we played Miami twice? Stay here like we bopped 489 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 3: them up twice. 490 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, interception return for a touchdown? I think 491 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: you have to pick six right down? Yeah, my first one? 492 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: Was that my first interception? It might have yeah, I 493 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: think so, I don't think. 494 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 3: I don't think it was my first interception, my first 495 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 3: interception for a touchdown? 496 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: Right pick six? 497 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 498 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: So when people are I'm sure this weekend, when you're 499 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: back in town, people are going to be asking you, man, 500 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: what are some of your favorite stories from over the years, 501 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 1: Like what kind of stuff jumps to mine for you? 502 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you the stuff that we can 503 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: keep it. PG. Thirteen. 504 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: I'd rather the r stuff. I mean, this is a podcast, 505 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's not radio like like we we we. 506 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: Were special locker room. We were a special locker room. 507 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 3: I remember in twenty eleven. Uh you know, sims Is, 508 00:25:55,440 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 3: I'm good at making a bad situation worse. So Toy 509 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 3: is Tory Smith's uh you know rookie year and Bernar Pollard, 510 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 3: this dude, he was the dudiest okay, Like for some reason, 511 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: he ended up naked like all the time. So Toy's 512 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 3: in his favorite shower. He's in there taking a shower. 513 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: At this point, it was just being Tory. Bernar Paula 514 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: comes in like it's like twenty open showers. 515 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: Those are Tory Smith showers. Like, hey, that's my shower. 516 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: Toy like all right, you know, being the being a 517 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 3: rookie like all right, like but he had like like 518 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 3: shampoo like on his like in his face and his 519 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 3: eye or skin wash or whatever. Toy goes to grab 520 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 3: his his towel. 521 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: All right, all right, I think I think we should 522 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: probably move on from this story. I asked story you 523 00:26:55,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: as I got it. Pollard was he was another level. 524 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: You always walked to the locker room with BP is 525 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: in there. You keep your feet, your eyes and your feet. 526 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: I hate that he don't get enough credit as he 527 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: should because Bnar Parlor is as raven as a raven 528 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 3: can get. 529 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 530 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: People don't know that because you know he was only 531 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: there for a brief time, you know what I'm saying, 532 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 3: But he. 533 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 2: Is a raven like Banar Polo. I think he played 534 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: for Houston, Kansas City, Tennessee. No matter those. 535 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 3: Teams that you're gonna remember Banar Polar for what he 536 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 3: did a race because he want to ring with us. 537 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 3: But like I just think, you know, he complimented ed 538 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 3: read so well, and they just work together, you know 539 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And it's a shame that you know, 540 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 3: we didn't, you know, get to kind of try to 541 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 3: build a dynasty and go on more runs. But I 542 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 3: love Banar Pollard. He was a great teammate, and you know, 543 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: we just like that locker room got a whole bunch 544 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 3: of guys that people really don't don't know much about them, 545 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: but they already they already. 546 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you watch the Ravens, says like, and you know, 547 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 4: so many players I talk to it's hard for them 548 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 4: to watch games. They want to be out there in control. 549 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: I'm just curious, you know, do you as most of 550 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 4: the guys, y'all, do you watch Ravens games, and when 551 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: you do, want to just sit there and like watch 552 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 4: what's going on. 553 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: I've never missed a Ravens game, not a single one. Yes, 554 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: I watch. 555 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: It. 556 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 3: Sometimes it's hard to watch a lot because of the rules. 557 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 3: Now it's just not you gotta turn the guy lose. 558 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 3: And you got to understand, like people don't get that 559 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 3: a lot of you know, a lot of things on 560 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: the football field is happening way before you've got time 561 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 3: to think and you know how to do this with 562 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: the heads. 563 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: And target it. 564 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 3: And it's just a whole lot that, Like our game 565 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: is vastly it's becoming flag football and then it'll be 566 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 3: two hand touched you know what I mean. Like, of course, 567 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: us older guys that was in that grid iron type 568 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 3: of era, Yeah, we don't like these new rules. You know, 569 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 3: like there's no way in the world could you could 570 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: play like that, you. 571 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. 572 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: And I think it's causing more injuries then it's preventing, 573 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Oh, I don't want to 574 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to hit the guy in the head. 575 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna hit a guy in the leading like 576 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: us as football players, like we know, we really don't 577 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: want to do that, you know, because it's a respecting 578 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: from player to player. But you know, not everybody in 579 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: the NFL is making forty million dollars a year. They 580 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: can't afford those fines, you know what I'm saying. So 581 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: it's like, all right, I'm gonna try to do this 582 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 3: and put a guy all the bound and next thing 583 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: you know, you got a quarterback laying the boom till 584 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,479 Speaker 3: you're running you over because you didn't want to hit 585 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: him in ahead, and he's standing up over you, flaxing 586 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 3: the muscle and you're like, dude, I can't hit. 587 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: You, like like you lost your try to play this 588 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 2: tough guy like y'all got more section. 589 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 3: Then then the you know, then the president like like 590 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 3: you just can't. It's just hard to grasp. Like it's 591 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: hard to watch, and it's like a flag on every 592 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: player something. So yeah, it's very difficult to watch that. 593 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 3: We use to that bumping grind, that that that gridiron 594 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 3: that you. 595 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: Know, that smash mouth you can hit. 596 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 3: And you know, I understand they're trying to be preventative, 597 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 3: but I don't think I think it should be a 598 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: judgment call, like after the fact, because the game is 599 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 3: happening way faster than the players can like, oh, I've 600 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: been not hit this guy in the head, Like, no, 601 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 3: my job is to stop him, you know what I'm saying. 602 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not trying to hurt him, you know 603 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But what can you do now? 604 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: I would have liked to have heard your speech to 605 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: the guys on the team plane on the flight back 606 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh this year, after that, after that one oh 607 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: on that flight. 608 00:30:54,160 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 3: So that's heartbreaking, and it's like, you know, it's always 609 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 3: you know, hindsights twenty twenty, it's like. 610 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 2: Oh, we should have did this, we should have did that. 611 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 2: Is just like. 612 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 3: It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. But you know, smart people that 613 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: you don't make the same mistakes. So, I mean, they 614 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: took care of business on their home field, congratulations to Stills. 615 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: And all that, but now they know, now we. 616 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: Know, we got to take care of business at home, 617 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, now the pressure is on us. 618 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: Really, So yeah, for sure, the last one for me. 619 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: Uh just you know, when you look at the highlights 620 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: of your career, you know, what, what are you most 621 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: proud of that you accomplished in your career. 622 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: I'm proud of the number one thing is that we 623 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: did win the Super Bowl. It had been a tragic 624 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 3: for us to have the teams that we have and 625 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: to never win one, you know what I'm saying. Like 626 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 3: I've always said this, Like I believe, like our twenty 627 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 3: eleven team was better than our twenty twelve team. 628 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: I strongly I believe that. 629 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: But it's all in when you get rolling, when you 630 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 3: get you know, you get the momentum on your side. 631 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 3: Like I think that's what I'm definitely most proud of 632 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 3: that we got like because it was weighing on us 633 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: and you know, the play in that many I think 634 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 3: we played in three AFC championships before we actually you know, 635 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 3: I won it, you know what I mean, and went 636 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: on to the Super Bowl. And like that's definitely my 637 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 3: most proud of. Like I wear my ring around the house. 638 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 3: I don't wear it outside too much. I wear it 639 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: around the house as much as I can. And and yeah, 640 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: that's it. Another thing I'm proud of. I sent my 641 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: boys off right, Like you know, Ray, when he told 642 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: us it was you know, his last ride, we sent 643 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 3: him out right. 644 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: We didn't. 645 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 3: I never thought we'd let the greatest safety ever walk 646 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 3: out of the building. 647 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: But you know he left right, you know what I'm saying. 648 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 3: So it was it was a good thing that that 649 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 3: all of us got it done. And Kwan, you know 650 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 3: the Kobe, Torri, Dennis Pitta a d We had a team. 651 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: We had a team for sure. 652 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: Cool well, Tis, thank you so much, hey man, congratulations, 653 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: this is this is the first of many honors still 654 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: to come in your way, buddy, and hey, we had 655 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: a pleasure covering you were so much fun man, Thank 656 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: you so much, and congratulations absolutely much deserve Thank you 657 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: all right, take it easy. Thank you for listening to Lounge. 658 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: We're coming to you from the seat Geek Studio. 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I tell you, the stories came out 670 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: of left fields, as they always do. 671 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 2: They always do. 672 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, Sis, Sis would really enjoy the locker room 673 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: how it's situated now we got those big TVs in there. 674 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: You remember his locker He had like the tiny little 675 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, twelve inch by twenty 676 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 1: four inch TV and all the huge stack of DVDs 677 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: at his locker. He would like the current setup. 678 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 4: It'd be like going to AMC movies. Man be set up. 679 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,600 Speaker 4: It'd be something playing every day, for sure. 680 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 1: Yup, yup, he would he would definitely be. He'd have 681 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: the remote, wouldn't be giving it up. 682 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 5: Nah, he'd be running the remote man for sure. 683 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: But uh just I mean he was so much fun 684 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: to work with and cover those steelers weeks always had 685 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: a different feel because of him, right, And it just 686 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: wasn't the T shirts that he would wear. It was 687 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,840 Speaker 1: it was just the energy that he brought. And you know, 688 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: I think that the feeling around the raven Steelers Steelers 689 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: rivalry has kind of change because of guys like him 690 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: who have moved on and guys from their side like 691 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: Joey Porter Junior and and Troy Paul Malu and some 692 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: of those guys, right, and it does feel a little 693 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: bit different. It's still great and I think Rokwan's still 694 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: bringing some of that energy back now. But that was 695 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: a special era of Ravens football and Sis was a 696 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: big part. 697 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 5: Of it, well, no question. 698 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 4: I mean you're talking about guy spent over a decade 699 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: with Sante and that then itself. I mean, you see 700 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 4: few and fewer guys than me spend their entire career, 701 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,479 Speaker 4: almost their intig career with one team. That was part 702 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 4: of it. Like when the Ravens played the Steelers, you 703 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 4: always knew the main characters. It was like, you know, 704 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 4: watching a sequel to a movie when they bring the 705 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 4: whole cast back. And he was obviously one of the stars, 706 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 4: and he was he looked forward to saying something that 707 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 4: was kind of gonna be Bolton Voarmantia inflammatory little. A 708 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 4: lot of guys don't have They don't want the smoke 709 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 4: that comes with that. They may feel it in sign, 710 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 4: but they're also worried about how their teammates are going 711 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 4: to react to them saying something. SiZ didn't care and 712 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 4: then he would tell the team, hey, we got to 713 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 4: back this up. Instead of running from saying something, he 714 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 4: ran to it and then use it to raise everybody's level. 715 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 4: And yeahs as funny as he was, crazy as he 716 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 4: definitely is, there's a lot of times there was a 717 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 4: method to his madness for sure, and he was also 718 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 4: wen't really get into it. 719 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 5: How smart of a player exactly. 720 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: That is one thing that I think a lot of 721 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: the casual fan didn't really appreciate as much as they 722 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: should have because of the character, right, because of what 723 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:10,240 Speaker 1: they saw and the perception and teammates and coaches always 724 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: talked about like this dude was like a studious guy. 725 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean, a very diligent note taker, very serious about 726 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: the game, and I mean he's just a smart person. 727 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: I think that Hiss has always struck me as just 728 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: a really smart dude, and that applied to football as well. 729 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 4: It did, and he was brought up by Ray and 730 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 4: Ed who were very similar now. But I mean a 731 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 4: great players, great athletic ability, but cerebral yep. And so yeah, 732 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 4: he he's a unique person, no question. It's funny when 733 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 4: you bring up his name how people smile like they 734 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 4: just when they start thinking about Sis, It's like something 735 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 4: funny comes to mind. He's not a guy who people ask, 736 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 4: have you ever met to rel Suz? If you captain, 737 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 4: stop and think about the answers. No, because if you've 738 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 4: met him, you remember. 739 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 5: You know. 740 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: That's great. Well, we would remind our list uh to 741 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: watch out for trains when you're at the Ravens Lions 742 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: game this weekend and always if you get sacked by 743 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: a train, it's game over. Sacked by train, sacked by 744 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 1: Charles Suggs, it's game over. You get sacked, all right. 745 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: So when leaving, please be aware of the railroad tracks 746 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: south of the stadium. Do not cross the tracks when 747 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,280 Speaker 1: a train is approaching, and adhere to all crossing signals. 748 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: Stay safe around train tracks. So Cliff, uh, moving forward 749 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of to this Ravens defense and you know, gosh, 750 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: what if you could just plug Sugs in there on Sunday? 751 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 5: Huh? 752 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: He kind of he looks like he's still like pretty young. 753 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: He does look good, you know what I mean, Like 754 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: he's not that many years removed. You think he give 755 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: us a little some, give us a few snaps. 756 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 5: H I know he thinks he could. 757 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: That'd be interesting and he'll be ready Sunday, I think 758 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 4: to give you a few. 759 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,839 Speaker 5: He's be pumped up after ring on it. 760 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: It's pretty cool that he doesn't miss the game too, 761 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: It's pretty neat. Yeah, he's out living in Arizona, but 762 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: does not miss a beat, So that that's pretty cool. 763 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: And you know, this Ravens pass rush has been getting 764 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: it cranked up, you know, tied for the league lead 765 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: in sacks and really getting it from so many different sources. 766 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: Eleven different players have at least one sack, which is 767 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: the most in the NFL. Even though the Ravens are 768 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: tied with the Bills of twenty four sacks. Eleven different 769 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: guys with at least one. That's pretty remarkable when you 770 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: don't have you know, right now you look at the 771 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: edge and you don't have it. For all sugs out there, 772 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: right it's pretty remarkable what they've been able to do. 773 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 4: It is and you know we've talked about it speaks 774 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 4: to Mike McDonald now he's scheming things up. It speaks 775 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 4: to the versatility of the Ravens players. I mean, they 776 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 4: have guys who you never know where they may line 777 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,919 Speaker 4: up and how they may be deployed, and it really 778 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 4: keeps quarterbacks off balance. I think that's been a big 779 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 4: part of that story. 780 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 2: Yep. 781 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: And they're going to get a boost to the pass rush. 782 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,400 Speaker 1: It looks like da Feyowe returned to practice on Wednesday, 783 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: limited limited capacity, but certainly, you know, we don't know 784 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: if he's going to be able to go against the Lions, 785 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: but a good a good sign certainly that he's on 786 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: the field Wednesday. 787 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 4: No question, and they're gonna need that pass rush against 788 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 4: Jarrett Golf and the Lions. I mean, Golf is playing 789 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 4: as well to me as a quarterback in the league, 790 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 4: really comfortable in that system. 791 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,439 Speaker 1: They have a great offensive line. 792 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:21,399 Speaker 4: They do comfortable they do so can you know, can 793 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 4: they protect Golf against our pass rush? Can we confuse 794 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,360 Speaker 4: Golf or you know, does does he get the best 795 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 4: of us? It's really going to be a big part 796 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 4: of chess match, I think is as it is really 797 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 4: every week. You always want to put pressure on the quarterback. 798 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 4: The Ravens have been able to do that consistently. 799 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really kind of strength, very strength. 800 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 2: Right. 801 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: The Ravens. Ravens defense and their pass defense have been 802 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 1: you know, their number two in the league and pass 803 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 1: defense right now, the Lions offenses is one of the 804 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,800 Speaker 1: top offenses in the league, right, and so vice across 805 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: the board. You really look down the line here and 806 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: it's wow, you know, Ravens strength versus their strength. So 807 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 1: the Lions rush defense first in the league, Ravens rush 808 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: offense fifth, right, Ravens pass defense, like I said, second, 809 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: their pass offense is fourth. Right, Ravens total defense second, 810 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: their total offense third. I mean, this is like something's 811 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: got to give here, right, and you have the Lions 812 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: five to one, Ravens four and two. I mean, the Lions. 813 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: People are saying, or maybe the best team in the 814 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: NFC right now after the forty nine ers just lost 815 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: to the Browns kind of lost the stinker, the Eagles loss, 816 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, lost their first game, or the Lions the 817 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: best team in the NFC? Is this a potential Super 818 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: Bowl preview? 819 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 5: And that's something you're talking about. 820 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Lions who've never been to some Yeah, I mean, 821 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 4: but you've got to mention it. And you know, we 822 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 4: all know the Ravens could be undefeated or five and one. Yeah, 823 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 4: Lions one loss was in overtime, yep, so they're thinking 824 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 4: we could be six and oh ten exactly. 825 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a Premier game. It's gonna be a 826 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: really fun one. Make sure fans that you know the 827 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: best offense is a good defense. We're gonna see some 828 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: good defense here on Sunday. Don't cross the tracks when 829 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: it is approaching and adhere to all crossing signals. When 830 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: you leave the game. Please be aware of the railroad 831 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: tracks south of the stadium. Stay safe around train tracks. 832 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: So thanks for that message from our partners at CSX 833 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: and Ravens fans, make sure you keep it locked right here. 834 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: We're not done this week. This is a bonus episode 835 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: of the Lounge, all right, Cliff, So we're gonna have 836 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: defensive tackle justin Matt Abikee coming off a big game 837 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: in London. He's gonna join us because this is a 838 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: big game. We gotta have pull out all the stops 839 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: for the Lounge, all right, So make sure you're subscribed, 840 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: leave a rating and review if you don't mind, and 841 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: we'll be back with you later this week.