WEBVTT - A Conversation with Jets TE Tyler Conklin (11/1) 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.200 Welcome to the Official JEZZ Podcast. We were presented by 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.840 win Bett. Betty Is the team sport bet Together that 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.799 went back, Eric Ellen and Studio joined us always by 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:16.840 the Mad Backer, my partner Crime Bart Scott Jets tight 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:22.239 On Tyler Conklin in the house today on Halloween. Oh man, 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.120 how tough of a game was that against the Patriots 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:29.000 yesterday seventeen? Felt like you were in control, but a 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:31.040 lot of the guys were saying after the game, you 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.280 let us slip away. Yeah, one hurts. Uh. You know, 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.680 that's my first time in this rivalry, right, and you 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:38.559 know how much the all you here all weeks, how 0:00:38.600 --> 0:00:40.440 much the fans hate him, how much everybody hates him, 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.120 and um, we not got that same the same hate 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.880 for him now, that's for sure. But uh yeah, definitely 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:47.599 definitely slipped away from us. It's one of those games 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.199 we're gonna look back at and, um, you know, should have, 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:51.640 would have could it? But you know, it is what 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:53.560 it is. And uh, we get to see him in 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:57.160 a couple of weeks. So how frustrating was our film 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.800 study today when you looked at all the opportunities and 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.120 how close you were, and you know how Bill gets 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:06.240 these mirages defensively to kind of scoop you out of 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.800 things when you realize that he really isn't a big, 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:13.680 bad whooping personnel wise, you guys have and the more 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:16.720 enough talent to be, you know, to put more points 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.039 on the board against that defense. Yeah, I think that's 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:21.760 one of the frustrating parts is the fact that we 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.600 we know and feel like we're the more talented team, 0:01:23.720 --> 0:01:27.480 right and uh, you know, we feel like we could 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.080 have made so many big plays and dominated that game, 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.039 and you come out of it you didn't. And that's 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.399 the most frustrating part about it. Um. And for the 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.520 most part, they really didn't too much, didn't do too 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:40.320 much too trying to trick us. I mean, we knew 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:42.040 they were gonna have some weird personnels at times. They 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:43.800 got a couple of fronts that we didn't expect them 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.840 to get into. But uh, for the most part, when 0:01:46.840 --> 0:01:49.360 they did that, we handled it well. Uh you know, 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.680 obviously we just at the time we got to take 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:53.560 care of the ball better. And uh, you know, it 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:55.160 makes some makes some places when we need to make them. 0:01:55.160 --> 0:01:57.400 But it's just frustrating loss for sure. What about you 0:01:57.680 --> 0:02:02.360 six catches seventy nine yards, two touchdowns. The two touchdowns 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.320 a career high in a single game. Also, five of 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:09.680 those six catches going for first downs, also a career high. Uh. 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:15.639 Obviously didn't like the team outcome, but as far as individually, 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.000 how big of a step was that for you and 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:20.800 the young quarterback Zach Wilson. Yeah. You know, it's a 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:22.560 lot easier to be happy about a big game when 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.120 when you win. But I think I think it's big 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:27.560 for me and that because I want to be someone 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:28.960 that he trusts on third down. I want to be 0:02:29.000 --> 0:02:32.480 someone that he trusts when when things break down or um, 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:33.919 you know, when he just needs to make a choice 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.560 between the side and make a play. I want to 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:38.760 keep building that trust. That was one of the big 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:40.799 reasons and one of the things I was excited about 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:42.079 when coming here. It was to be able to work 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.560 with the young quarterback and and help become that guy 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:46.919 for him. Uh. And I think when we watched the 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.280 film today, the big thing was, no, he he did 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.680 a good job, making a lot of you know, good 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:55.839 reads right away, throwing some really good balls. The first 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.400 touchdown he told me was a great ball. Um. You know, 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:01.720 I think I think it was big big for our chemistry. 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:03.160 I think it's big for me. You know, I'm still 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:06.400 uh trying to get better and better every single day, 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:09.960 every single every game in this league and uh trying 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:11.320 to become the player that I know I can be. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.040 So I think it was big for me and Zach 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:17.079 and myself in general. Not making excuses, but you guys 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.760 had to really adjust to the fact that you don't 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.120 have reach Hall, you know, behind you know, behind Zach 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:28.280 and James Robinson and Michael Carter. How was that adjustment 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.360 because it feels like you guys were not able to 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:33.280 really get James going. It was kind of tough to 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.520 be put into a new system, New Bourbidge, New Town, 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.600 all within a week and be expected to produce. How 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.400 do you guys kind of put that whole package in 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.960 the microwave and try and cook it faster and and 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.240 the organically you know, cooked in the other or in 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:49.880 the crop pod. I know there's a lot of stuff. Yeah, 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:53.840 I kind of hung it through, But you know, I 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:55.920 feel like we didn't have too many opportunities in their 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:57.360 own game, right. I don't know how many times how 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.800 many rushies we ended up with dirt Team. I want 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.480 to say I want to say, maybe MC had seven 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:07.200 rushes and James had five twelve whatever ended up being um, 0:04:07.240 --> 0:04:09.280 you know, and being down at times in the fourth quarter, 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.760 being some two minute drills. We you know, probably didn't 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:13.320 run the ball maybe as much as we wanted to 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.080 at times, and uh, you know, I can only imagine 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.920 how quick of a turnover that is for uh, for 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:21.960 James um learning that playbook and trying to be ready 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.159 to go and short notice like that. But I don't 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.600 think it's uh, you know, I think obviously missing Breece 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.160 is huge. He's a hell of a player and he 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.160 showed that so early in his career. But uh, you know, 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.560 so MC and James are both really good running backs too, 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.480 and uh now I'm excited for them to show everybody, 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:40.440 you know, what they can do and how are running 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:42.719 game is gonna be, you know, you know, just as 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:46.080 Poland So what about Garrett Wilson going over a hundred 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:49.000 yards receiving for the second time as a pro. He's 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.279 only played eight games in the National Football League? What 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.840 have you seen from him? And what kind of potential 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.520 does that guy have? Yeah, so everybody kind of has 0:04:57.560 --> 0:04:59.039 been saying it now, but I was saying that since 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:00.440 I first got here that he it's a little bit 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.800 of Justin Jefferson in him. Uh, just the way he moves, 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.280 kind of like the euro stepping as he strides, and 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.280 the wiggle and slipperiness he has, uh them to beat 0:05:09.279 --> 0:05:12.520 press coverage and and whatnot. And he obviously has special 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.360 ability after after the catch. And I think you know, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:16.920 he's moving around a lot as a young guy. Right 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.919 he's in the slide, he's playing actually playing z's playing 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.600 F and there's just so many intricacies that go with that, 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.640 you know, when he's going from being outside just being 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.479 someone man coverage to happen to go inside in the 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.679 slot and you know, and fuel zones and run different 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.160 types of routes that uh, you know, he's just gonna 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:33.520 keep growing and getting better, I think, But you know, 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.280 the Scott's a limit for him. Did you tell him 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.560 that after you made the Justin Jefferson comparison or you know, 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:40.320 I've never I've never told him that. I actually I 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:43.080 hope he doesn't hear this, but uh, you know, he's 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.280 all he's he's a super humble, humble kid anyway, But 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:48.800 you know, it's really just the way they move, you know, 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.320 the way they can go high point the ball, the 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:52.680 way they you know release and for me, it's just 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.520 like the the Euro step as they you know, kind 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:57.920 of just running any type of route, just the back 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:02.480 and forth and slipperiness of it. But yeah, yeah, Garret 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:06.599 wasn't very very um shifty, right, very sudden when he 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.440 when he makes his moves, and you can tell people 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:12.599 respect his quickness within like within the in in a 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:16.120 confined space. You know, this is the first time probably 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:18.520 this season, since early in the season that you guys 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.839 probably have a live up the expectations and you know 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.040 kind of had a letdown. How do you guys rebound quickly? 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.440 And how do you guys you know, match up and 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.040 what's the mindset when you start thinking about going against 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.880 arguably the best team in the NFL. You know, the 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.839 excitement level, but the focus and I know that this 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.040 and this is a day where it's an off day, 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:41.279 but you had to peek at the game, you know, 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:43.600 maybe on the plane, you know, I mean you have 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.200 to see the game maybe last night, and trying to 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.240 get an early assessment of what you think you can 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.240 have an opportunity to do against the Buffalo Bills defense 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.520 that are is tremendous, and you know what, the defense has, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.920 the tasks that they have and stopping arguably the leading 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.640 m v P candidate no plane last night coming home 0:07:01.640 --> 0:07:07.840 from life. Yeah, I'm following you. We're on We're we're 0:07:07.839 --> 0:07:11.520 on Woody's helicopter yesterday. But uh yeah, I mean I 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:13.760 watched the game last night, and uh, I think the 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.200 beauty of this league is, well, you got you got 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:16.680 a quick turnaround, right. We have a game, we have 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.840 a tough loss. You know, you said the expectations that flipped. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.440 We're expected to win a game. And that's that's that's 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.960 new for um, you know the organization as of right now. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.480 Right so um, it's it's a little bit of a letdown, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:30.800 but you know, you don't have much time to sit 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.280 there and mourn it and and feel bad about it. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:34.680 You know, you let it hurt for a little bit 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:37.320 and you move on. And I watched the game last night. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:39.080 I think with the Bills is you know how explosed 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:42.400 with their offense is and uh, you know, we know 0:07:42.440 --> 0:07:44.720 how well our defense is playing. So you know, we're 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.160 we feel good about that. I'm excited to watch to 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.320 watch that matchup. But on defense, they you know, they're 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.160 not gonna try to trick you. They you know they're 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:54.760 gonna you know what front they're gonna be in for 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.960 the most part. Um, they're gonna do what they do. 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:59.600 And it's it's a team that's kind of been in 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.760 that sits this defensive system for you know, four or 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.120 five years, and uh, they keep getting better and better. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.360 They fly around and or they're supposed to be and 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.240 you know, kind of like a coach, I always say, 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.000 you know, you know what you're doing on defense, and 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:12.440 then as a defensive player, you can go in green 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.360 light something and make a play and make a difference 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.240 in the game. Uh. So you know, I think from 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:18.880 a standpoint, we just got to execute. You know, we 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.520 know what they're gonna be in, and we know our 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.560 coaching gonna put a good plan together for us. So 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.600 we just gotta go out there and execute and make 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:29.560 the play. A totally different way they tach people the 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:34.839 Jets defense, Bills defense, but there are similarities because the 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.040 Bills like to rush for and play seven in the back, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.280 and we've been seeing your defense have a lot of 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.240 success doing that as well. Right, So, Uh, the Buffalo 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.600 will tell you, hey, listen, we're just gonna put seven 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.120 in the back and try to beat us through there. Yeah, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.160 you know, and that's what I think our defense has 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.960 done really well. Right. We don't you know, I don't 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.800 know everything that's going on the defensive side of the ball, 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.439 but for the most part, they they don't do. Yeah, 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:00.920 they don't overcomplicate that. You know, they have certain checks 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:02.720 for certain things. They have a couple of checks throughout 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:06.000 the game, and you know, they make players on the 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.000 ball and they play, you know, as we've seen all season, 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.440 super fast and they come down and hit people. And 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.560 I think that's you know, the same as Buffalo. You know, 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.160 they're not gonna over over complicate things. They're gonna be 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:18.440 in their spots. They're gonna you know, take the chances 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:20.360 when they get the opportunity to take a chance, and 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:22.839 you know it's on us to make the big play 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:24.920 and not make to make the mistakes. Like you know 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.280 in the New England game, right, that's kind of a 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:31.280 team that has mirages and you know they wait for 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.439 you to make the mistakes that they can win. Um, 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.720 So it's a little different game and that aspect of things. 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.760 I mean You're part of a young group, but you're 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.720 you've been you have probably more experience than a lot 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.319 of the guys um in the system. You think about 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.240 Garret Wilson, you think about lies are more think about 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.600 Zach Wilson. These are young players that are just cutting 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.679 their teeth in this league. You know, what are you 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:56.840 saying to them? Are you know what's the conversations about, 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:58.160 because you know, when you get to the middle of 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.120 the season, the body starts to make a little bit 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:05.160 more especially for these rookies who this is the longest 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.880 year of your career, right you're coming from playing college. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:12.080 Combine that whole draft process, rookie camps. What are you 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.319 trying to do the kind of guide because you need 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.360 these young guys kind of to skip past the rookie wall. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:20.560 The rookie wall hates to everybody. Yeah, it's still weird 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.840 for me that I'm I'm a older guy, guess in 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:25.480 this league being at your five with how younger with 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.040 team this is. But uh, you know, I think it's 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:31.880 really just checking out them, making sure you know they're 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:33.800 doing the right thing, trying to be Obviously, you can't 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.800 make anybody do anything they're not They don't want to do, 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:38.360 but you know, just be that you know that vet 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.520 that they can lean on and and uh you know, 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.280 ask for advice what they need to do to take 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.920 care of their body or so my rookie is a 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:47.600 lot different. I'm not. I wasn't in a spot that 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.360 a lot of these guys are in where they're playing 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.319 of the snaps and being contributors like they are. Uh. 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.120 I was in a little different situation. And last year 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:58.920 was really my first year starting and you know, as 0:10:58.960 --> 0:11:01.240 a as a starter, and you know, playing a full 0:11:01.240 --> 0:11:03.680 season and playing every snap, and my big thing going 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.400 into it was, Okay, how am I gonna take care 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.200 of my body? What is my routine that's gonna allow 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.640 me to make it through a seventeen game season? And 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.680 uh I just had to go through that in year four. 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:14.520 So I think, you know, it's fresh out of my 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.320 mind and I think, you know, um, it makes that 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:18.800 it makes it easy for me to kind of talk 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.720 to them, and you know, just really the importance of 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:23.880 having a routine. I think routine is everything, especially in 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.400 this league. So the earlier earlier you can build that routine, 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:28.319 I think the more successful you're gonna be. As a player. Yeah, 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:30.160 no doubt about that. You were playing with your hair 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:34.600 on fire against Patriots. We're seeking out the contact because 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.040 you weren't just catching the ball on Sunday. You were 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.040 looking to get up field and whoever was in your 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:44.800 way watch out. You know. I think it's uh, you know, 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.400 you just here, You're here to talk about it all week. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.679 I was just excited to become part of become part 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.040 of the rivalry, right. Um, and that I hate for 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.640 the Patriots built really really quickly throughout that game. But uh, 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:57.800 and it always feels good and you can you can 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.160 touch the rock early in the game and make a play, 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.680 and um, you know, I just trying to kind of 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.840 build on you know, that first third down conversion and uh, 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:10.360 make sure we could have energy. So obviously things the 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:11.920 playing out how we wanted, but you know, I think 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:19.200 it's a step in the right direction. Zach Wilson three interceptions. 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.600 He was definitely not happy after the game. What kind 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:28.240 of spotlight is the quarterback in here in New York 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.600 compared to where the place you just came from, Minnesota, 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.600 Like let's say cousin stros forgn Or in the game, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.080 what does he face compared to maybe what a Wilson 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.760 does here. The media here is definitely a lot different, 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.839 and the fans are a little different. You know. Um 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.320 you said we talked earlier. It's been you know, a 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.479 long road of not a lot of winning, and uh, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:53.320 you know, they want to see wins, and uh so 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.559 they're harsh. You know. You see in the stadium sometimes 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.160 we go from having so much energy in the stands 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.840 the stuff going wrong, and it gets really quiet, really fast, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.480 and uh, you know, it's the similarity between is Kirk 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:06.120 is getting paid a lot of money right now. Right 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.199 so when Kirk struggling in a game, he caught a 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:10.719 lot of heat for it because you know how much 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.719 he was getting paid, and you know, the roster we 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.160 had in Minnesota and the expectations for us to win there, 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:17.560 and uh, you know here in New York, just the 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.600 spotlight that he has. Um, I don't know if it's 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.400 a spott I would want to want to deal with. 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.920 But I talked to me after the game. Actually, I'm like, man, 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.520 don't listen to it. I mean, it's hard not to. 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.160 We all have bad games, we all have good games, 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.120 and you know that's kind of the beauty of the sport. 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:33.480 You know, he's kind of gotta stick together. And I 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:37.080 think people going people really went and watched his game. Obvious, 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.920 you see some picks that are not not good, right, 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:42.960 and he knows that. He looked at those players like 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.679 what the hell was I doing? Right? Um, but you're 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:49.120 also going to see a lot of players where he 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:53.280 played really well. It's just those bad plays kind of 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.679 overshadow the good that happened throughout it. So, um, I 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.800 think it was, you know, a good growing process at 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:01.800 some point. You know, he just learned a lesson that 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:03.560 you know, a mobile, I can get out of the pocket, 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.800 I can create stuff, but I can't. I can't do that. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:08.080 You know, I gotta throw the ball away. I don't 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:09.880 need to throw the ball away. I can't make it close. 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.080 You know, I got sometimes you gotta eat it. You know, 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.640 you take a negative player, you know whatnot. So I 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.360 think it just something all young players go through. I 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.000 think people forget how young he is at times. And 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:22.000 you know, you don't want to sit here and make excuses, 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:23.760 but you know, there are good things that happened in 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.320 that game. It's just some of those bad things really 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:28.960 overshadowed it. Yeah, just because you could, don't mean you should. 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.240 And you know, understand, I had a young Mark Senchez 0:14:31.320 --> 0:14:34.560 and we had a already made defense, champion defense, a 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:37.560 great offensive line, the best running game in the business. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.920 And you know, really what you have to what he 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.120 has to realize. And the toughest part about, you know, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:46.880 trying to help a young player mature um is letting 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:50.520 him know that you can depend on us, Like understand 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.080 that if you punt the ball, that's a good thing 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.800 because we're gonna flip the field because we're gonna get listen, 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:58.440 go over there, get your gatorade. You're gonna have three players. 0:14:58.480 --> 0:14:59.920 You're gonna be right back out here. You're gonna be 0:14:59.920 --> 0:15:02.640 an a better position you were when you before you 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.160 punted the ball because we're gonna flip the field and 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:06.840 we're gonna get them three and out and you know, 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:09.000 we may get the interception to give you the ball back. 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.640 So that's the hardest part, you know, when you have 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.440 a young guy that's trying to extend plays, he has 0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:17.880 to realize and understand that when you retreat back. That's 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:19.760 one of the biggest issues that he has. You know, 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.520 just me being an analyst and watching him play. You 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:26.720 can't retreat back because that's where your line is blocking people. 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.680 So it makes them it makes the feel strength and narrow. 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.280 You know, you have to step up and what mac 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.240 Jones are doing. If he saw a cover one, he 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:36.880 just took off. So I mean it's a part of maturing. 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.360 And we have a young quarterback. It can be frustrating 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:42.040 because they'll have games where they played very well then 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.200 games where they just try and do too much. And 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.440 understand that you can win ugly in this game. Most 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.560 most people in this league win ugly. Like it's ugly 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.800 game seventeen to sixteen nineteen. You don't have to air 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.000 it out. It's not it's not about that because at 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.000 the end of the day, if you win, everybody eats. 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.400 So it's just him having an understanding that money is 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.840 a good thing if you really believe in this defense 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.160 and believe in us as a team, and you have 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.760 to blend the line between offense and defense and say 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.800 we're one and we have to play as if we're one, 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.080 and understand give me some time to get some TV 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:14.880 time and I'll give you the ball right back. I 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.080 put the light right back on you, so I don't 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.280 know how you get that communicated to him. But I 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.520 had that same experience with a young Mark Sanchez. We 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.480 had a time and I'm just trying to explain to 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:27.960 you the history, uh this this of the Jets. We 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:29.800 had the same issue with Mark where we had to 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.440 give him red light green lights, where he had to 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.680 like he had to throw the ball, he couldn't change 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.080 the play, and you know, it was just part of it. 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.120 And we made him better and we went to two 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:43.160 ANFC championships back to back, knocked out Tom Brady, knocked 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:45.280 out Peyton Manny, knocked out Philip Rivers, you know what 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.560 I mean. So that's the hardest part in trying to 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.920 get him to understand that because you guys have an 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:53.720 opportunity in a wide open a f C where anything 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.400 can happen. You get in the tournament, anything can happen. 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.520 It's no dominant team, it's no big bad wolf, right 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.720 There's no guy that's been making great plays all the time, Raidy, 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.480 There's nobody that at that level right now. But Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:08.919 And that's actually I mean, you hit two things that 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:10.439 we kind of talked about. Because I was talking to 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:12.720 Zact today and he you know, he watched the Bills 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:16.000 game yesterday and he's talking about how the difference between 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.000 how him and Josh Allen scramble right like you were saying, 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.480 he's retreating, making it feel more narrow, um, throwing off 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.760 his back foot, and like he watched the game yesterday 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.680 and a lot of times when Josh Allen's you know, scrambling, 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.080 he's attacking the line of scrimmage, and then he's you know, 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.119 staying behind the line of scrimmage and and making a 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:33.800 throw or is attacking the line of scrimage with them. 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:35.639 He does decide to run, you know, he can make 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.080 a make a big play. And that's actually something me 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.800 and Zach talked about this morning was just um, you know, 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.959 the difference in in the way that they've been they 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.159 both scrambled, and you know, something that he wants to 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.920 improve on and work on. And I talked to MC 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.720 this morning about just this d our defense here. You 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:53.359 know how much we believe in them, and every time 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.679 they go on the field, you expect to get the 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:57.680 ball back, you expect to turnover, you expect them to 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:01.439