1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Official JEZZ Podcast. We were presented by 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: win Bett. Betty Is the team sport bet Together that 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: went back, Eric Ellen and Studio joined us always by 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: the Mad Backer, my partner Crime Bart Scott Jets tight 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: On Tyler Conklin in the house today on Halloween. Oh man, 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: how tough of a game was that against the Patriots 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: yesterday seventeen? Felt like you were in control, but a 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: lot of the guys were saying after the game, you 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: let us slip away. Yeah, one hurts. Uh. You know, 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: that's my first time in this rivalry, right, and you 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: know how much the all you here all weeks, how 12 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: much the fans hate him, how much everybody hates him, 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: and um, we not got that same the same hate 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: for him now, that's for sure. But uh yeah, definitely 15 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: definitely slipped away from us. It's one of those games 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna look back at and, um, you know, should have, 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: would have could it? But you know, it is what 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: it is. And uh, we get to see him in 19 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. So how frustrating was our film 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: study today when you looked at all the opportunities and 21 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: how close you were, and you know how Bill gets 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: these mirages defensively to kind of scoop you out of 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: things when you realize that he really isn't a big, 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: bad whooping personnel wise, you guys have and the more 25 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: enough talent to be, you know, to put more points 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: on the board against that defense. Yeah, I think that's 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: one of the frustrating parts is the fact that we 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: we know and feel like we're the more talented team, 29 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: right and uh, you know, we feel like we could 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: have made so many big plays and dominated that game, 31 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: and you come out of it you didn't. And that's 32 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: the most frustrating part about it. Um. And for the 33 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: most part, they really didn't too much, didn't do too 34 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: much too trying to trick us. I mean, we knew 35 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: they were gonna have some weird personnels at times. They 36 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: got a couple of fronts that we didn't expect them 37 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: to get into. But uh, for the most part, when 38 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: they did that, we handled it well. Uh you know, 39 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: obviously we just at the time we got to take 40 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: care of the ball better. And uh, you know, it 41 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: makes some makes some places when we need to make them. 42 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: But it's just frustrating loss for sure. What about you 43 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: six catches seventy nine yards, two touchdowns. The two touchdowns 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: a career high in a single game. Also, five of 45 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: those six catches going for first downs, also a career high. Uh. 46 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: Obviously didn't like the team outcome, but as far as individually, 47 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: how big of a step was that for you and 48 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: the young quarterback Zach Wilson. Yeah. You know, it's a 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: lot easier to be happy about a big game when 50 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: when you win. But I think I think it's big 51 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: for me and that because I want to be someone 52 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: that he trusts on third down. I want to be 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: someone that he trusts when when things break down or um, 54 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: you know, when he just needs to make a choice 55 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: between the side and make a play. I want to 56 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: keep building that trust. That was one of the big 57 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: reasons and one of the things I was excited about 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: when coming here. It was to be able to work 59 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: with the young quarterback and and help become that guy 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: for him. Uh. And I think when we watched the 61 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: film today, the big thing was, no, he he did 62 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: a good job, making a lot of you know, good 63 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: reads right away, throwing some really good balls. The first 64 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: touchdown he told me was a great ball. Um. You know, 65 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: I think I think it was big big for our chemistry. 66 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: I think it's big for me. You know, I'm still 67 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: uh trying to get better and better every single day, 68 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: every single every game in this league and uh trying 69 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: to become the player that I know I can be. 70 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: So I think it was big for me and Zach 71 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: and myself in general. Not making excuses, but you guys 72 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: had to really adjust to the fact that you don't 73 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: have reach Hall, you know, behind you know, behind Zach 74 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: and James Robinson and Michael Carter. How was that adjustment 75 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: because it feels like you guys were not able to 76 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: really get James going. It was kind of tough to 77 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: be put into a new system, New Bourbidge, New Town, 78 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: all within a week and be expected to produce. How 79 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: do you guys kind of put that whole package in 80 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: the microwave and try and cook it faster and and 81 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: the organically you know, cooked in the other or in 82 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: the crop pod. I know there's a lot of stuff. Yeah, 83 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: I kind of hung it through, But you know, I 84 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: feel like we didn't have too many opportunities in their 85 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: own game, right. I don't know how many times how 86 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: many rushies we ended up with dirt Team. I want 87 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: to say I want to say, maybe MC had seven 88 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: rushes and James had five twelve whatever ended up being um, 89 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, and being down at times in the fourth quarter, 90 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: being some two minute drills. We you know, probably didn't 91 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: run the ball maybe as much as we wanted to 92 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: at times, and uh, you know, I can only imagine 93 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: how quick of a turnover that is for uh, for 94 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: James um learning that playbook and trying to be ready 95 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: to go and short notice like that. But I don't 96 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: think it's uh, you know, I think obviously missing Breece 97 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: is huge. He's a hell of a player and he 98 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: showed that so early in his career. But uh, you know, 99 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: so MC and James are both really good running backs too, 100 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: and uh now I'm excited for them to show everybody, 101 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, what they can do and how are running 102 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: game is gonna be, you know, you know, just as 103 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: Poland So what about Garrett Wilson going over a hundred 104 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: yards receiving for the second time as a pro. He's 105 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: only played eight games in the National Football League? What 106 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: have you seen from him? And what kind of potential 107 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: does that guy have? Yeah, so everybody kind of has 108 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: been saying it now, but I was saying that since 109 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I first got here that he it's a little bit 110 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: of Justin Jefferson in him. Uh, just the way he moves, 111 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: kind of like the euro stepping as he strides, and 112 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 1: the wiggle and slipperiness he has, uh them to beat 113 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: press coverage and and whatnot. And he obviously has special 114 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: ability after after the catch. And I think you know, 115 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: he's moving around a lot as a young guy. Right 116 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: he's in the slide, he's playing actually playing z's playing 117 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: F and there's just so many intricacies that go with that, 118 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, when he's going from being outside just being 119 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: someone man coverage to happen to go inside in the 120 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: slot and you know, and fuel zones and run different 121 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: types of routes that uh, you know, he's just gonna 122 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: keep growing and getting better, I think, But you know, 123 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: the Scott's a limit for him. Did you tell him 124 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: that after you made the Justin Jefferson comparison or you know, 125 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: I've never I've never told him that. I actually I 126 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: hope he doesn't hear this, but uh, you know, he's 127 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: all he's he's a super humble, humble kid anyway, But 128 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, it's really just the way they move, you know, 129 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: the way they can go high point the ball, the 130 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: way they you know release and for me, it's just 131 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: like the the Euro step as they you know, kind 132 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: of just running any type of route, just the back 133 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: and forth and slipperiness of it. But yeah, yeah, Garret 134 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: wasn't very very um shifty, right, very sudden when he 135 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: when he makes his moves, and you can tell people 136 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: respect his quickness within like within the in in a 137 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: confined space. You know, this is the first time probably 138 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: this season, since early in the season that you guys 139 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: probably have a live up the expectations and you know 140 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: kind of had a letdown. How do you guys rebound quickly? 141 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: And how do you guys you know, match up and 142 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: what's the mindset when you start thinking about going against 143 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: arguably the best team in the NFL. You know, the 144 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: excitement level, but the focus and I know that this 145 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: and this is a day where it's an off day, 146 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: but you had to peek at the game, you know, 147 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: maybe on the plane, you know, I mean you have 148 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: to see the game maybe last night, and trying to 149 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: get an early assessment of what you think you can 150 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to do against the Buffalo Bills defense 151 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: that are is tremendous, and you know what, the defense has, 152 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: the tasks that they have and stopping arguably the leading 153 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: m v P candidate no plane last night coming home 154 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: from life. Yeah, I'm following you. We're on We're we're 155 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: on Woody's helicopter yesterday. But uh yeah, I mean I 156 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: watched the game last night, and uh, I think the 157 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: beauty of this league is, well, you got you got 158 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: a quick turnaround, right. We have a game, we have 159 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: a tough loss. You know, you said the expectations that flipped. 160 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: We're expected to win a game. And that's that's that's 161 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: new for um, you know the organization as of right now. 162 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: Right so um, it's it's a little bit of a letdown, 163 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: but you know, you don't have much time to sit 164 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: there and mourn it and and feel bad about it. 165 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: You know, you let it hurt for a little bit 166 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: and you move on. And I watched the game last night. 167 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: I think with the Bills is you know how explosed 168 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: with their offense is and uh, you know, we know 169 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: how well our defense is playing. So you know, we're 170 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: we feel good about that. I'm excited to watch to 171 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: watch that matchup. But on defense, they you know, they're 172 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: not gonna try to trick you. They you know they're 173 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: gonna you know what front they're gonna be in for 174 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: the most part. Um, they're gonna do what they do. 175 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: And it's it's a team that's kind of been in 176 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: that sits this defensive system for you know, four or 177 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: five years, and uh, they keep getting better and better. 178 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: They fly around and or they're supposed to be and 179 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, kind of like a coach, I always say, 180 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know what you're doing on defense, and 181 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: then as a defensive player, you can go in green 182 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: light something and make a play and make a difference 183 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: in the game. Uh. So you know, I think from 184 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: a standpoint, we just got to execute. You know, we 185 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: know what they're gonna be in, and we know our 186 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: coaching gonna put a good plan together for us. So 187 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: we just gotta go out there and execute and make 188 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: the play. A totally different way they tach people the 189 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: Jets defense, Bills defense, but there are similarities because the 190 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: Bills like to rush for and play seven in the back, 191 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: and we've been seeing your defense have a lot of 192 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: success doing that as well. Right, So, Uh, the Buffalo 193 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: will tell you, hey, listen, we're just gonna put seven 194 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: in the back and try to beat us through there. Yeah, 195 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, and that's what I think our defense has 196 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: done really well. Right. We don't you know, I don't 197 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: know everything that's going on the defensive side of the ball, 198 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: but for the most part, they they don't do. Yeah, 199 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: they don't overcomplicate that. You know, they have certain checks 200 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: for certain things. They have a couple of checks throughout 201 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: the game, and you know, they make players on the 202 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: ball and they play, you know, as we've seen all season, 203 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: super fast and they come down and hit people. And 204 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: I think that's you know, the same as Buffalo. You know, 205 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: they're not gonna over over complicate things. They're gonna be 206 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: in their spots. They're gonna you know, take the chances 207 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: when they get the opportunity to take a chance, and 208 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: you know it's on us to make the big play 209 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: and not make to make the mistakes. Like you know 210 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: in the New England game, right, that's kind of a 211 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: team that has mirages and you know they wait for 212 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: you to make the mistakes that they can win. Um, 213 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: So it's a little different game and that aspect of things. 214 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean You're part of a young group, but you're 215 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: you've been you have probably more experience than a lot 216 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: of the guys um in the system. You think about 217 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: Garret Wilson, you think about lies are more think about 218 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. These are young players that are just cutting 219 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: their teeth in this league. You know, what are you 220 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: saying to them? Are you know what's the conversations about, 221 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: because you know, when you get to the middle of 222 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: the season, the body starts to make a little bit 223 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: more especially for these rookies who this is the longest 224 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: year of your career, right you're coming from playing college. 225 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: Combine that whole draft process, rookie camps. What are you 226 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: trying to do the kind of guide because you need 227 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: these young guys kind of to skip past the rookie wall. 228 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: The rookie wall hates to everybody. Yeah, it's still weird 229 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: for me that I'm I'm a older guy, guess in 230 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: this league being at your five with how younger with 231 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: team this is. But uh, you know, I think it's 232 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: really just checking out them, making sure you know they're 233 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: doing the right thing, trying to be Obviously, you can't 234 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: make anybody do anything they're not They don't want to do, 235 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: but you know, just be that you know that vet 236 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: that they can lean on and and uh you know, 237 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: ask for advice what they need to do to take 238 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: care of their body or so my rookie is a 239 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: lot different. I'm not. I wasn't in a spot that 240 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are in where they're playing 241 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: of the snaps and being contributors like they are. Uh. 242 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: I was in a little different situation. And last year 243 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: was really my first year starting and you know, as 244 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: a as a starter, and you know, playing a full 245 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: season and playing every snap, and my big thing going 246 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: into it was, Okay, how am I gonna take care 247 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: of my body? What is my routine that's gonna allow 248 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: me to make it through a seventeen game season? And 249 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: uh I just had to go through that in year four. 250 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, it's fresh out of my 251 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: mind and I think, you know, um, it makes that 252 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: it makes it easy for me to kind of talk 253 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: to them, and you know, just really the importance of 254 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: having a routine. I think routine is everything, especially in 255 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: this league. So the earlier earlier you can build that routine, 256 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: I think the more successful you're gonna be. As a player. Yeah, 257 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. You were playing with your hair 258 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: on fire against Patriots. We're seeking out the contact because 259 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: you weren't just catching the ball on Sunday. You were 260 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: looking to get up field and whoever was in your 261 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: way watch out. You know. I think it's uh, you know, 262 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: you just here, You're here to talk about it all week. 263 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: I was just excited to become part of become part 264 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: of the rivalry, right. Um, and that I hate for 265 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots built really really quickly throughout that game. But uh, 266 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: and it always feels good and you can you can 267 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: touch the rock early in the game and make a play, 268 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I just trying to kind of 269 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: build on you know, that first third down conversion and uh, 270 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: make sure we could have energy. So obviously things the 271 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: playing out how we wanted, but you know, I think 272 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: it's a step in the right direction. Zach Wilson three interceptions. 273 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: He was definitely not happy after the game. What kind 274 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: of spotlight is the quarterback in here in New York 275 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: compared to where the place you just came from, Minnesota, 276 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: Like let's say cousin stros forgn Or in the game, 277 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: what does he face compared to maybe what a Wilson 278 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: does here. The media here is definitely a lot different, 279 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: and the fans are a little different. You know. Um 280 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: you said we talked earlier. It's been you know, a 281 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,479 Speaker 1: long road of not a lot of winning, and uh, 282 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, they want to see wins, and uh so 283 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: they're harsh. You know. You see in the stadium sometimes 284 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: we go from having so much energy in the stands 285 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: the stuff going wrong, and it gets really quiet, really fast, 286 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it's the similarity between is Kirk 287 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: is getting paid a lot of money right now. Right 288 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: so when Kirk struggling in a game, he caught a 289 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: lot of heat for it because you know how much 290 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: he was getting paid, and you know, the roster we 291 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: had in Minnesota and the expectations for us to win there, 292 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 1: and uh, you know here in New York, just the 293 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: spotlight that he has. Um, I don't know if it's 294 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: a spott I would want to want to deal with. 295 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: But I talked to me after the game. Actually, I'm like, man, 296 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: don't listen to it. I mean, it's hard not to. 297 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: We all have bad games, we all have good games, 298 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: and you know that's kind of the beauty of the sport. 299 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of gotta stick together. And I 300 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: think people going people really went and watched his game. Obvious, 301 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: you see some picks that are not not good, right, 302 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: and he knows that. He looked at those players like 303 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: what the hell was I doing? Right? Um, but you're 304 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: also going to see a lot of players where he 305 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: played really well. It's just those bad plays kind of 306 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: overshadow the good that happened throughout it. So, um, I 307 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: think it was, you know, a good growing process at 308 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: some point. You know, he just learned a lesson that 309 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, a mobile, I can get out of the pocket, 310 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: I can create stuff, but I can't. I can't do that. 311 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: You know, I gotta throw the ball away. I don't 312 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: need to throw the ball away. I can't make it close. 313 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: You know, I got sometimes you gotta eat it. You know, 314 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: you take a negative player, you know whatnot. So I 315 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: think it just something all young players go through. I 316 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: think people forget how young he is at times. And 317 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, you don't want to sit here and make excuses, 318 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: but you know, there are good things that happened in 319 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: that game. It's just some of those bad things really 320 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: overshadowed it. Yeah, just because you could, don't mean you should. 321 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: And you know, understand, I had a young Mark Senchez 322 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: and we had a already made defense, champion defense, a 323 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: great offensive line, the best running game in the business. 324 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: And you know, really what you have to what he 325 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: has to realize. And the toughest part about, you know, 326 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: trying to help a young player mature um is letting 327 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: him know that you can depend on us, Like understand 328 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: that if you punt the ball, that's a good thing 329 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: because we're gonna flip the field because we're gonna get listen, 330 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: go over there, get your gatorade. You're gonna have three players. 331 00:14:58,480 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: You're gonna be right back out here. You're gonna be 332 00:14:59,920 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: an a better position you were when you before you 333 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: punted the ball because we're gonna flip the field and 334 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna get them three and out and you know, 335 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: we may get the interception to give you the ball back. 336 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: So that's the hardest part, you know, when you have 337 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: a young guy that's trying to extend plays, he has 338 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: to realize and understand that when you retreat back. That's 339 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: one of the biggest issues that he has. You know, 340 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: just me being an analyst and watching him play. You 341 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: can't retreat back because that's where your line is blocking people. 342 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: So it makes them it makes the feel strength and narrow. 343 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: You know, you have to step up and what mac 344 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: Jones are doing. If he saw a cover one, he 345 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: just took off. So I mean it's a part of maturing. 346 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: And we have a young quarterback. It can be frustrating 347 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: because they'll have games where they played very well then 348 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: games where they just try and do too much. And 349 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: understand that you can win ugly in this game. Most 350 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: most people in this league win ugly. Like it's ugly 351 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: game seventeen to sixteen nineteen. You don't have to air 352 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: it out. It's not it's not about that because at 353 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: the end of the day, if you win, everybody eats. 354 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: So it's just him having an understanding that money is 355 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: a good thing if you really believe in this defense 356 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: and believe in us as a team, and you have 357 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: to blend the line between offense and defense and say 358 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: we're one and we have to play as if we're one, 359 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: and understand give me some time to get some TV 360 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: time and I'll give you the ball right back. I 361 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: put the light right back on you, so I don't 362 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: know how you get that communicated to him. But I 363 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: had that same experience with a young Mark Sanchez. We 364 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: had a time and I'm just trying to explain to 365 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: you the history, uh this this of the Jets. We 366 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: had the same issue with Mark where we had to 367 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: give him red light green lights, where he had to 368 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: like he had to throw the ball, he couldn't change 369 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: the play, and you know, it was just part of it. 370 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: And we made him better and we went to two 371 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: ANFC championships back to back, knocked out Tom Brady, knocked 372 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: out Peyton Manny, knocked out Philip Rivers, you know what 373 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean. So that's the hardest part in trying to 374 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: get him to understand that because you guys have an 375 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: opportunity in a wide open a f C where anything 376 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: can happen. You get in the tournament, anything can happen. 377 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: It's no dominant team, it's no big bad wolf, right 378 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: There's no guy that's been making great plays all the time, Raidy, 379 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: There's nobody that at that level right now. But Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, 380 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: And that's actually I mean, you hit two things that 381 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: we kind of talked about. Because I was talking to 382 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Zact today and he you know, he watched the Bills 383 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: game yesterday and he's talking about how the difference between 384 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: how him and Josh Allen scramble right like you were saying, 385 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: he's retreating, making it feel more narrow, um, throwing off 386 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: his back foot, and like he watched the game yesterday 387 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: and a lot of times when Josh Allen's you know, scrambling, 388 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: he's attacking the line of scrimmage, and then he's you know, 389 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: staying behind the line of scrimmage and and making a 390 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: throw or is attacking the line of scrimage with them. 391 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: He does decide to run, you know, he can make 392 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: a make a big play. And that's actually something me 393 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: and Zach talked about this morning was just um, you know, 394 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:43,959 Speaker 1: the difference in in the way that they've been they 395 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: both scrambled, and you know, something that he wants to 396 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: improve on and work on. And I talked to MC 397 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: this morning about just this d our defense here. You 398 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: know how much we believe in them, and every time 399 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: they go on the field, you expect to get the 400 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: ball back, you expect to turnover, you expect them to 401 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: slip the field and uh, you know, it's a it's 402 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: a comfort and feeling knowing that. And uh, I mean, 403 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: you know you made a great point about the punts. Okay, 404 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: and we didn't say we didn't think about it like 405 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: that exactly, but uh, you know, a punch a good thing. 406 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 1: We'll get the ball back with better faild position. But 407 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: it is something that we we talked about this morning, 408 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: like we trust this defense. We know this defense is 409 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: gonna either make them punt or get a turnover. And uh, 410 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's funny both the things you 411 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: just mentioned. There's things I talked to Zach and MC 412 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: about today. So let me ask you, this are the 413 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: good words of wisdom from the bad packer who's you know, 414 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: I went to a couple of FC championship games. Here. 415 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: You mentioned Josh Allen to that you played with him 416 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. Could you have predicted the success 417 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: he's had in the NFL so far? Did you know, 418 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: like during that week of practice. Obviously you're getting ready 419 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: for the draft yourself before you're taking in the fifth 420 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: round by the fightings, But wow, this this dude has 421 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 1: become like Salo would say, a freaka zoin. Yeah. So 422 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: I actually we played Josh. We played Wyoming in in 423 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: a bowl out of a Potato Bowl, Central Michigan first Wyoming, 424 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: and going into that game, We're like, man, whatever, we're 425 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: gonna kill him, blah blah blah. Uh he ain't that good. 426 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: And we came out there and got smoked. I think 427 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: we lost like seven or something. We had a ton 428 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: of turnovers on offense. But you know, he, uh, you know, 429 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: he shredded us that game. So you know, I went 430 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: from playing them in a bowl game and watching him, 431 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, make us look really bad, going and playing 432 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl with him, and uh, obviously I don't 433 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: think you can never really just sit there and predict, 434 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, who's gonna become what, right, because people, if 435 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: we could do that, you know that the draft would 436 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: be a lot less you know interesting, if we could 437 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: just predict who's gonna become what. But uh, you know, he, 438 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: you know, he's kind of showed it. And I was 439 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: just I guess, proving people, um, you know, proving people 440 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: right or wrong? How do you want to look at it? 441 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: But he's obviously the help of a player, so you 442 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: kind of touch what you're thinking. He already caught a 443 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: touchdown from him, But we'll passed out out of the 444 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: background for fullback. But uh yeah, I mean he I 445 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: mean he has a cannon. And you know, the knock 446 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: on him was he wasn't accurate. I mean other than 447 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: what I would tell people he was throwing the ball 448 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: in Wyoming, like, consider to consider the elements, right, consider 449 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: the elements, and also to consider who he was going to. 450 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: But you gotta give josh and a ton of credit 451 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: because when he first came in his league, he couldn't 452 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: hit the ocean if he was in a boat, right, 453 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: But he really changed his mechanics and stands his delivery, 454 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: became a much more accurate quarterback. I know, you're much 455 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: more accurate when you trade for Stefan dis but a 456 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: ton of credit goes to him for improving his game. 457 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: And you know, those are those are the tales of 458 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: you know what, what's what's built last longer than was born? Right, 459 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: he was born some natural tools, but he built itself 460 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: to become an accurate quarterback. He stopped turning the ball over, fumbling, 461 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: putting his team at risk. And um, you know that 462 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: that's a that's a cautionary tale to you know, that's 463 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: not a coustionary tell, but to tell to Zack that Listen, 464 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: we expect quarterbacks to be finished products, you know, in 465 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: their second year. It doesn't work that way for every 466 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, you know, it's it's a Jalen Hurts that 467 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: takes a while to kind of develop and get it. 468 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: And you just gotta understand that, you know, in this 469 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: league is all about plugging up the holes that you 470 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: have in your game. So we all come to the 471 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: league with a lot of holes. So those who are 472 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: arrogant and think that hey, I'm just gonna keep being 473 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: fast and athletic not only lasts for so long because 474 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: at some point are all our bodies started to slow 475 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: down and we have to adjust our game and win 476 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: more with our mind than it is our natural born ability. 477 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: So I get that from Nara Hopkins all the time. 478 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: What's built last longer than what's born. And he's a 479 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: perfect example of that. Because Roy Jones was born to 480 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: be great. He built itself to be great. And when 481 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: you look at Bernard Hopkins and what he was able 482 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: to do over the course of his career, you would 483 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: say his career was as good or not better than 484 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,719 Speaker 1: Roy Jones. But Roy Jones had all the natural skills 485 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is another example of that as well. Yeah, 486 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: I mean that hits hold with me because my roads 487 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: actually been you know, obviously a lot different than a 488 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: lot of people's, um, you know, from basketball to football 489 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,239 Speaker 1: to the fifth round pick and walk on and all 490 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: the non all that stuff. So um, you know, I 491 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: like that saying that's something that definitely kind of hits 492 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: on with me. And as I keep trying to you know, 493 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: develop will come better. So bart here talking about the 494 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: execution or Bertnard Hopkins one of the greatest, one of 495 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: the greatest boxers ever. Uh, I wanted to ask you 496 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: about the basketball background in terms you're route running. How 497 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: much does that help you? Because you got more wiggle 498 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: and you get separation at the top of your routes 499 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: And typically we speak in terms that way when we're 500 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: when we're talking about the receiver, but you can get 501 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 1: some things happening at the top of your route. How 502 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: much does that basketball background help you? Yeah, I think 503 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: I think it helps. I think basketball for me really 504 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: has helped with going up in high point the ball 505 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: and body control and things like that. And really for 506 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: me is uh, I've always took proud of my route 507 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: running and you know, working on it and going to 508 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 1: seeing receiver coaches and whatnot, and really trying to um 509 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: have a different toolbox than most tight ends have when 510 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 1: it comes to you know, releases and on top of 511 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: the routes, and you know, I'm just I was really 512 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: excited coming here and coming into this offense and some 513 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: of the freedom we have in the rout tree and 514 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: some of the routes that we do run as a 515 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: tight end. Uh. You know, I've been excited to get 516 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: the opportunity to go out there and show it in 517 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: the game and do those things. So how about that? Yeah, 518 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: I'll go ahead. I love this. I love to see them, 519 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, split you out just a tad figure running 520 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: banana routes because these linebackers are so stupid. They'll follow 521 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: you and get out outside and just throw it on 522 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: the hatch and just banana in between the numbers. And 523 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: they're so short. You just musselm all day. Especially against 524 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: teams like the Buffalo Bills is gonna have like two 525 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: high guys. You know, you can get under that and 526 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: go ahead and Boston, you know what I mean. Always 527 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, we go out there, run and go 528 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: rout in the linebacker comes out there just just alerted 529 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: for me. You know, just just think, just think about it. 530 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 1: If you see if you see a backround following me 531 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: out there, or you know, a safety or whatnot. But 532 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: because I feel comfortable out there, is it's a place 533 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: I feel comfortable. You know, my year, you're always basically 534 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: playing X. I was backside, um, you know, running glances 535 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: in phase and whatnot all season. So it's definitely a 536 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: place I feel comfortable. Break it down for us. Now, 537 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: I got in the league when you had like the 538 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: evolution of the tight end, right like Kevin kelln Kelen 539 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: Winslow Jr. Of course I've been playing against Gates since 540 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: we were in high school in Detroit. Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, son. 541 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 1: It was roommates and he went to mis Stay. That's 542 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: a long story. We'll have enough time enough tape in 543 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: this in is real to cover how I ended up 544 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: in sol Illinois. But when when when when you think 545 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: about like the evolution of the tight end, when you 546 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: were trying to make that transition from being a guy 547 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: that's you know, Bronk and Kindles probably are the the 548 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: spokesman for like the guys who can really set the 549 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: edge and be able to control defensive ends. And then 550 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: you look at guys like Pits. That's like the other 551 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: end of the spectrum. Who are you, What are you 552 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 1: trying to add to your game? And who did you 553 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 1: look up to by kind of growing up as you 554 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: were trying to develop from a basketball player to a 555 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: football player, then also trying to not be tight casts 556 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: as a guy that's in the box, you know, blocking 557 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: all the time. Yeah, I mean there's a lot of 558 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: things that kind of So Antonio Gates is someone that 559 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 1: I really you know, having a basketball background. Michigan guy, 560 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: Um obviously one of the greatest tight ends ever played 561 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: the game is someone I watched um. And then when 562 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: I first decided to switch over the football, I was 563 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: watching the Michigan State football game. The tight end at 564 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: the time was Josiah Price, and uh, you know, he 565 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: was having a good year catching stick nois for touchdowns 566 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: over the place and way man, I can do that, 567 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: you know, Um. And that was the day I was 568 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: at Buffalo while Wings watching it. That was that was 569 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: the day I kind of decided to stop playing basketball 570 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: and switch over. And then weirdly, Josiah Price ended up 571 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: be in Minnesota when I got there and uh, you 572 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: know that was just um. Once I kind of gone 573 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: into the you know, the pre draft stuff and whatnot, 574 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: it was, oh, he was split out all year, he 575 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: can't block, he can't do this. And my whole thing was, 576 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna prove him wrong. Right, So I 577 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: went to the senior boy, I was like two hundred, 578 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: ended up being up like two pounds, like, I'm gon 579 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: show him I can block, Like I know I could 580 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: run route. I'm gonna sho him I can block. So 581 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: it was probably a little heavier and whatnot that I 582 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 1: should have been, But you know, I wanted to prove 583 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: him wrong in that aspect of things because I just 584 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: think the beauty of tight end is you gotta do everything. 585 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: You gotta be able to play in pass pro. You 586 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 1: gotta build. It's like a back, right. I didn't want 587 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: to be a a guy I can only play on 588 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: third down. I want to be a guy that can 589 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: be in there on first down, second down. I want 590 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: to be able to beat man coverage on third down. Um. 591 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: So I always wanted to be the all around tight end. 592 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: I didn't want to be the guy that was just 593 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: a receiver guy or a block and guy, and uh, 594 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: that's just something I've kind of always prided myself on 595 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: and something I'm still trying to get better every day. 596 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: And Coach Mid's helped me a ton in the run 597 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: game since I've been here, just with you know, aiming 598 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: points and hand placement and in my footwork. So, um, 599 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: you know, I think the run game is something I 600 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: want to keep getting better at. Uh. He's helped me 601 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: a ton of pass par already with just having better 602 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: sets and um, you know, different tricks with my punches 603 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: and whatnot, and uh then have an opera to me 604 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 1: to go out there and show it. I work on 605 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: you know, in the offseason probably more than anything with 606 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: my route running and releases and things of that nature. 607 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: So I'm just excited to keep getting better every single 608 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: every single game as all around tight end? How want 609 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: you quick quick tip? Quick tip from a linebacker that 610 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 1: knows like how tight ends can cheat. Don't push him 611 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: away from you, pull them to you and just put 612 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 1: them chest to chest. You'll never get caught for holding 613 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: if you grab him and pull them close to you. 614 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: If you don't need to stand your arms, you grab 615 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: them underneath their underneath their path chest to chest. You'll 616 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: never get it. They can't make a tackle and and 617 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: then you'll never get called for hold and then just 618 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: get mad. Yeah, we had a guy. We had a guy, 619 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: a Mully Mulligan junior whopper hands, and he would hold 620 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: the hell out of you. You never get the call. Yep, Middleton, 621 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: you messaged him before. Cool dude, how much you enjoy 622 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: working with that guy? So I love it. Uh, you 623 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: know a room. We got a great room between you know, 624 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: c J, myself, Ruck Kenny. Uh, you know obviously whoever 625 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: talked to c J. You know CJ is just outgoing 626 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, a goofball and then coach mid. 627 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean the one liners that he has are unbelievable. 628 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: I mean, oh, it's something answers. The way he says it, 629 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, the way he says things, you know, his 630 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: one liners, like the stuff that comes out of his 631 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: mouth is just hilarious. And he's played the game for 632 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: you know, he played tenure career, so he understands it. 633 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: He understands the tough situations we get put in. He 634 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: understands um, you know, tricks and things to help us 635 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: to win in those situations. And he understands when you're 636 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: in a tough situation, you don't necessarily get it done 637 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: to you know, Um, he gets it and he uh 638 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's nice to to be coached 639 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: by a coach that you know has played the game, 640 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: understands the game the way he does and uh, you know, 641 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: like I said earlier, he's really helped me develop in 642 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: a short period of time since I've been here. I 643 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: want you paying attention to what's going on in Minnesota. 644 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: So you leave Minnesota, they're like six and one. You're 645 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: here with your new team doing great things. Five and three. 646 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: Obviously you wish you were six and two, but uh, 647 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: Minnesota multi game lead in the NFC North. Through would 648 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: have thought, yeah, you know, they've had the talent there 649 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: for you know, long since I've been there. You know, 650 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: since I got there in my rookie year. They had 651 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: this roster that was not thinking. This league, you have 652 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: a you have a window right of when you have 653 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: young guys that aren't campaign you have guys that you're paying, 654 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: you have this window to go make a Super Bowl run. 655 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: And they've done a good job of somehow extending that 656 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: that roster and giving them a chance to be what 657 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: they are right now, and then you know they got 658 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: a heck of a team. You know, Kirk I think 659 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: is one of the most hated on quarterbacks. I think 660 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: he's he's a heck of a quarterback. His accuracy and um, 661 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: you know, he's just he's like I texted him today 662 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: because his touchdown run, I'm like, you hit to know 663 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: it was the GPS? Was you hit twenty miles per hour? 664 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: You know? Then you got Justin out there, who um, 665 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: you know, with one of a kind, with what he's 666 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: done so far in his career. And you know, I'm 667 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: happy for him. And I got I got a good 668 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: team and winning games and uh, you know Green Bay 669 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: struggling a little bit, Chicago and Detroit, so you know, 670 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: good for them. I'm happy for him. Have you thought 671 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: about what it's gonna be like when you go back there? 672 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: So I can't wait talking about I want to go 673 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: bonkers that day. You know, I'm excited to go back 674 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: to the U. S. Bank. You know, I was there 675 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: for four years. Me and uh, you know, my fiance 676 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: we learned to love Minnesota, so we're excited to get back. 677 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, we're enjoying the hell out of this, 678 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, new experience out here, so part should be 679 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: on there guys getting married. I was there for the 680 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Man, I almost lost. I thought, I don't 681 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: have to appltate my fingers are damn cold. It was, Yeah, no, 682 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: it's it is. It is pretty damn coold, especially go 683 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: outside about January. You breathe, it just hits you in 684 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: the lungs, start coughing and ship you know. I I mean, 685 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't mind the cold though. You guys are Minnesota 686 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: is different. Minnesota is different. But no, it is different. 687 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: It's it's different. It is different. It's a lot different 688 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: to Michigan. It's warmer here than there's in Michigan. Yes, 689 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: no doubt. What's the day of the wedding April twelve. 690 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with the wedding. We're staying 691 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: out of it completely. Tell him like, I'll be there. 692 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: If you got a real question, I gotta answer. I'll answer, 693 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 1: but she'll ask me. I'll answer and she won't even listen. Anyway, 694 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: where's it gonna be. She don't care if you take 695 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: the cake. I don't care if we don't even need 696 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: a cake. You know, whatever, I just told you. Whatever 697 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: we're having a kaba. Okay, it's gonna be destination wedding, 698 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: a little smaller family and close friends and uh, it 699 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: would be cool. I'm excited about it. That's awesome. Little 700 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: zip lining. I'll be there. If you go opposite San Juan, 701 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: they have a they have a hotel where it's carved 702 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: out of the volcanic ash. So like you go there, 703 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: you got like two cans that come up until you 704 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: it's no elevator, but your your your room is off 705 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: the mountain. That's can carve. That's dope. And what's it called. 706 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: Let me ask my wife. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get 707 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: you gotta get get back to me about that one. Yeah, 708 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: I got it, I got it. I got it's right 709 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: up there. It's cool because they have the waterfall. They 710 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: have the active volcano, so like they got the live 711 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: springs with the sulfur. You do rock climb, you go ziplining, 712 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: and but that's that's only when you go to Cobbo. 713 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: You go to San Juan and you go to the 714 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: other part with the rainforest. Yeah. Someone asked me. Someone 715 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: asked me today, and I'm like, I don't know what 716 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: sound I'm going to, Like you said, I'll be there. 717 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna so I'll be standing up there. But 718 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: she's she's handling it. Also, I'm excited. We're excited, we're 719 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: excited for you. How many tattoos you got a lot? Um, 720 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: you don't know. You don't have the cover about a 721 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty hours it all bless together. No, I 722 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: mean there's not. I mean I' about to say that's 723 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,960 Speaker 1: all one at this point. Uh, probably my right leg 724 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: or my back, my right legs, all stuff from back home. So, um, 725 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, like if you're ever driving down ninety four, 726 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: there's like a Gibraltar trade center, it like it was 727 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: like a that's mad. It's like it was a big 728 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: dude that side. So when I was driving home as 729 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: a kid, you uh, you knew you were close to 730 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: them when you got by that. So I got him 731 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: tattooed on the back of my leg. Um, there's like 732 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: an old motel kind of where I grew up that 733 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: they tore down a couple of years ago. I got 734 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: that tattooed. Uh So just like all different stuff. Um, 735 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: you know from my childhood, my little league football team, 736 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, three on three gust Macker trophy takes playing 737 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: gush I was playing gush Mackers ever every every year 738 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: as a kid, especially one in Luddington. Uh, you put, 739 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: you put the silver Dome, I was saying, I was 740 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: telling me the other day. I used to play in 741 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: the Silver Dome and I played for the Clams Barcouters 742 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: back when I was a kid, So we star always 743 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: playing the Silver Dome. I had a little new balances 744 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: on because I ain't know turf shoes looking terrible, cowboy 745 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: cowboy collar. Get the fis, get the fists, get the 746 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: Joe Louis fish. I gotta I gotta figure out with us. 747 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: I gotta do. I took a little breaks. I don't 748 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: got much space left. I only got about stomach in 749 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: my ribs, So I gotta I'm trying to hold off 750 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yea. That for the kids. That's that's 751 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: when my that's what my lady keeps telling me. So 752 00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: you gotta say room for the kids. That's true. You so, 753 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: hey man, we enjoyed it. Continue success. Uh you know, 754 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,479 Speaker 1: hopefully you guys start a new winning street this week 755 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: against the Bills. But again, uh, as far as tight 756 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: ends the position is concerned here with the Jets hadn't 757 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,959 Speaker 1: had a lot of production there recently. If you look 758 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: at your numbers, you're on pace for a very good year. 759 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: And again, can't can't look at the number. Listen. I 760 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: can say career highs. Yesterday two touchdowns I had to. 761 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: I had two in the game before, so it ties 762 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 1: the career okay, and then the five first downs. I 763 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: don't know about that. I might say, I'll try. I'll 764 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: trust you on that one. All right, Thanks brother, I 765 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: appreciate you got having me. Winn Mett is bringing the 766 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: excitement of win Las Vegas to online sports betting and 767 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: casino play. 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You must be 777 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: twenty one or older to participate. Please visit windbet dot 778 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: com to view welcome offers available in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, 779 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: New York, Tennessee, and Virginia. You're watching Official Jets Podcast. 780 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: We're presented by Win Pat Bettings, the team sports put 781 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: together at Win, Eric Ellen with Bart Scott h Tyler Cochland. 782 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: I think he is going to figure prominently in the 783 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: Jets offense for the next nine games. Bottom line, they're 784 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: gonna need him big time down the stretch. Absolutely. I 785 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: mean because Tighten as a quarterback's best friend, because he's 786 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: always friendly, he's right there in the line of sight, 787 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: and he does a good job and using his big 788 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: body to be able to shoot against defenders, and he's surehanded, 789 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: you know. So I think you know that that relationship 790 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: will continue to grow and it opened things up for 791 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: everybody else. You mentioned it before, Buddy, Zack Wilson. What 792 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: does he have to do? You talked about in terms 793 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: of staying in the poet pocket, not dropping back, but 794 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,919 Speaker 1: immediately looking ahead to this game against the Buffalo Bills, 795 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: because that's the defense that has been together for a 796 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: long time, We'll have to find out about the status 797 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: of Jordan's ployer. This long time safety there, Micah Hyde 798 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: already out. But that builds defense. Uh, typically one of 799 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: the best in the National Football League. Yeah, because their discipline, 800 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 1: they have a rare luxury much like the Jets habit. 801 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: They don't have to add more people to the rush 802 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: to be able to affect the quarterback because they have 803 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: guys that can win the one on ones. But you know, 804 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 1: when you talk about you, you you damn sure can't 805 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: fade away and explode yourself on the edges when you 806 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: think about roosts, so and you think about Bond Miller 807 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: on the outside in the best place to be a 808 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: stepping up because they're only rushing four, you have five 809 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: to six protectors or it creates natural scenes and lanes 810 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 1: to throw through, but also to throw through. You gotta 811 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: be decisive. You gotta move up in the pocket. You 812 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: cannot drift back because you exposure. So you gotta be 813 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: quick with the ball and understand that you're gonna have 814 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: to hold the ball a little longer because they have 815 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: seven in protection. But then it's gonna be opportunities for 816 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: guys to sit in zone so when they are in 817 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 1: one one zone and they can't get through, they may 818 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: have to slide to another zone to get open. You 819 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: gotta be patient. I'll big of a challenge is this 820 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: for a young team who thought they let one get 821 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: away against the Patriots? You know that are thinking Michael 822 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: Carter the second scores, it's a two score game at halftime, 823 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: and maybe possibly it's gonna be a runaway against the Patriots. 824 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: What's around? Yeah? So if well, if anything, you gotta 825 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: know that that you have to take advantage of those opportunities. 826 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: You can't let them pass because those are the ones 827 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: that you regret and you're asking yourself what if right, 828 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: and you know you can't ask what if? You got 829 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 1: to say this is what is? This is what we did, 830 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: And they're gonna have to shoot themselves up because they're 831 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: going against the best you know, football team and all 832 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: the football that have doubled down and you know, who 833 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: knows what they're gonna do before the trade that line. 834 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: You know reports that they may be going for Alvin Kamar. 835 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: Who knows Kareem Hunt available, But you know it's an 836 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: arms race going on in a f C and in 837 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: the NFL for teams that think they're close, and Buffalo 838 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: think they're closer to any other team. How do you 839 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: contain this Spell's offense. It's a prolific attack. Uh. On paper, 840 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 1: I think the Jets defensive line should have some matchup 841 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: advantages against the Bill's offensive line. But the counter on 842 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 1: that for Buffalo is Alan so dynamic. He can get 843 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: out of the pocket and he's strong too, so even 844 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: if you get your hands on him sometimes it's really 845 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: hard to bring him down. That's the issue, and that's 846 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: why you gotta stay in your rush lanes because if 847 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: you play man and man and turn your back, you'll 848 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: take off. And he's so big that he can make 849 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 1: guys miss in space, but he also can run through 850 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: arm tackles. So that's the dilemma. Do you spy and 851 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: what do you do with them? And you're gonna ask 852 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: your your corners to do a lot, you know, And 853 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: and he's gonna take some shots and he trust, you know, 854 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: gave David's and he trust um Stefan digs and he'll 855 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: put the ball up. So guy's gonna have the high 856 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: point the ball. But it's gonna be essential again for 857 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: these corners to be able to match up man to 858 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: man because you're gonna have to have seven guys in 859 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: coverage to be able to have all eyes on him, 860 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: so he doesn't make you look foolish by running one 861 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: of these forty five yard copper runs. We saw Matt 862 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: Jones early on, You saw Joe Burrow early on, You 863 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: saw Jakoby Brissett. You know, you know, really hurt. Josh 864 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 1: Aland is more talent than all those um with his 865 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: arm and with his legs. How do you think that 866 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: Jets should match up with those receivers? The cornerbacks have 867 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: been playing great this year and Sauce Gardner DJ Reid. Yeah, 868 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: but all it takes is one, you know, so you 869 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: still want to mix it up. You still want to 870 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 1: play some formers on some man. You want to try 871 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: and brack them at times if you feel like you 872 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: have a good grasp on being able to stop them 873 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: with a light box, then you you know say, okay, 874 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: well maybe uh you know, stop with the light box. 875 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: And this time we're gonna double gay. This is time 876 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna double stuff one. This time we're gonna double 877 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: knocks um. Because when you look at you know, really 878 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: what the Jets really struggle with was you know, Stevenson 879 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: coming out of the backfield and being able to isolate 880 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: you know some of these linebackers and you know catch 881 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: a ball, so who knows they're trying and use Devin 882 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: Singletary or cook that way. You know, you put it 883 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 1: on tape, You're gonna have to defend it until you 884 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: show that you can stop it and offensively. We talked 885 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: specifically about Zach, but what's the key for the entire 886 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: unit that is still undergoing a transition here? You mentioned 887 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: it with Tyler Listen. Uh, we'll have to see about 888 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: the status of Corey Davis. But Elijah vera talker, Breese Hall, 889 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: they're not running back. They have to run the football 890 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: like they're trying to. They're trying to stop you and 891 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: nickel like they their base defense is nickel, and you 892 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: have to make them pay for being in nickel. You 893 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,839 Speaker 1: have to get up to the second level. You gotta 894 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: block come up, block gap scheme, you gotta get vertical. 895 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: You gotta make them see if they can continue to 896 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: attack you with your running backs coming down hire great 897 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 1: opportunity ahead, right though, I mean, you're testing you're testing 898 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: yourself against the best. Yeah, you should go out there 899 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: and you have nothing to lose. You're expected to lose 900 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: this game. You should go out there free and play 901 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: your best football and take chances. What else do you 902 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: have to lose. You have nothing to lose, nothing to lose. 903 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: All right, part Scott, We'll see you next week, brother,