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Speaker 1: but you know now you're gonna be you know, where

428
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: are we going to stop? And that's the other problem,

429
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: all right, because you'll you'll hit ten grand at the

430
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: way you're going because and the next thing I'm gonna

431
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: say to you is are we gonna do the trans?

432
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: Has the trans ever been done? Right? And that that's

433
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: the one thing I was when I both the truck used.

434
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 1: I was saving up for this as well. Uh it

435
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: happened to just faster than I was hoping for. And

436
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: the TRANS I was gonna do probably next year, I'm imagining. Well,

437
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: the thing is, if the engines out, the trans is

438
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: six polts away and the labor cost to do it

439
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: now and get it over with, you know. And and

440
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: here's the qualm. Let me tell you my quandary. All right,

441
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: My wife's Malibu two thousand five malibut three thousand miles,

442
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: and you can imagine how it's been maintained. It has

443
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: an issue with the trans every once in a while,

444
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 1: it's got a shutter on light acceleration. And after all

445
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: the diagnosis and after all the looking, there is a

446
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: fault internal in the trans. And to fix it, I've

447
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: got to pull the TRANS out of the vehicle. I

448
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: don't have to necessarily rebuild the trans, but I've got

449
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: to take the trans out, take it apart, fix it,

450
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: put it back together. Eleven years old, hundred forty thousand.

451
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: I'd be stupid not to rebuild the trans. The argument

452
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: in my head is whether I do the trans or

453
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: I pay somebody to do the trans because I don't

454
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: have the time to do the trans because in my world,

455
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: time is money. All right, It's it's still a minimum

456
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: of a three thousand dollar cost, all right. Am I

457
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: gonna put three grand, original starter, original alternator, original water pump,

458
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: original noisy A C compressor back in this car? Now

459
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: I'm into this car five Yeah, I could do that.

460
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 1: It's not it's not an ugly car. It still looks good.

461
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 1: Um it gets her where she's gotta go, and she's

462
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: happy in it. But you know, the one thought that

463
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: I always have in the back of my mind is

464
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: parts availability. GM is pretty good. GM doesn't have so

465
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: much of an obsolescence issue as some of the others.

466
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you right now, in my opinion,

467
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: one of the worst manufacturers for parts obsolescence is Chrysler. Okay,

468
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: and Chrysler Jeep going back to the Mercedes days. They

469
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: don't want to keep anything on the shelf. You know,

470
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: there's there's stories going around. Um, I know somebody with

471
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: a twenty I think it's a teen Jeep Grand Cherokee.

472
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: They were in an accident. They can't get two fenders

473
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: for the car at a Chrysler. You know, there are

474
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: parts issues at JEEP. So you know, I understand your

475
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: pain and I get what you're trying to do. Um.

476
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: The question is this is this? This is like? This

477
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: isn't dating, Jerry. You're about to get married again, all right,

478
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be you all in. That's the problem.

479
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: You're all in. It's it's all or nothing. There's there's

480
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 1: no halfway here, um. And the biggest problem you've got

481
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: is your heart specialist is not around the corner. He's

482
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: seventy five miles away or fifty miles away, whatever the time,

483
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: whatever the distance is. So you know that that that

484
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: vehicle is gonna do little TLC. And you know, it

485
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: was one thing when it was the neighborhood garage around

486
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: the corner and Friday night you're driving home and you

487
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: get a little bit of an oil leak or you

488
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: know this light came on and why and you know,

489
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: let me drop it off at Joe's garage on Main

490
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: Street and he'll look at it on Saturday morning. That

491
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: was a different world. Now, you know, m listen, it

492
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: might go perfect. It might be we'll get you in

493
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 1: and out in a week, Jerry, and it's all done

494
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: and everything's nice and there's no problems. But forty three

495
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: years of auto repair, you know, maybe maybe I'm a

496
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: pessimist at heart. No, no, I I hear you with that.

497
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: And and even to turnaround time, what they're that I'm

498
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: talking about, it is like three weeks for them to

499
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: do the engine correctly. I had, you know, I had

500
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: vetted him a little bit talking to him, and he

501
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: seemed spot on. I was, you know, you know my

502
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: past history as a volcanic as well, and the conversation

503
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: went very well. He was like, this is what I'm doing,

504
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: this is how I'm gonna rebuild it. It's gonna take

505
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: three weeks, but I'm gonna do it correct. You know.

506
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: It was all the right wording. And then you know, listen,

507
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: ask him for a ballpark. You know what UM give

508
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: him to Ask him to give you a number. I

509
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: don't think he can give you an exact number. I

510
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: don't think if he's giving you any I think if

511
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: he gives you an exact number, I think he's cheating

512
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: himself because he doesn't know what he's gonna hit once

513
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: he gets in there. But right, he did give me

514
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: a ballpark, and I had to say, like if I

515
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: was gonna buy a engine from like a rebuilding, you know,

516
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: you just swap out the engines. He was pretty close

517
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: to it. But you know, extra little extra to do

518
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: the balancing, a little extra to do the blue printing.

519
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: He wants to do that as well. Right, and you

520
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: know what, You're gonna pay a little bit more for

521
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: a hand built engine, and by rights you should. It's

522
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: hand built. You know, it was made here. There's there's

523
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: there's an intrinsic quality value to that. But but like

524
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: I said, I would include coils, I would include radiator,

525
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: I would include all your bolt on parts. Um, I

526
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: would think about swapping the trans uh, you know, doing

527
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: the catalytic converters. I would price them, but I would

528
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: expect them to probably add to grant to the bill.

529
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: Maybe now is the moment, but clearly, once you do this,

530
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: you're keeping this vehicle at least another five years. And

531
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: just stay up on the maintenances you have in the past,

532
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: and you should be fun. Jerry, good luck to you.

533
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: Let me know what, let me know what you decide.

534
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: Bring up by the shop when you get it done,

535
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, maybe we can a lunch or

536
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: something together. Eight five five five six zero nine nine

537
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: zero zero. Run an any of the car Doctor. We

538
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: are back right after this. Welcome back on a NI

539
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: of the car Doctor here at eight five five five

540
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Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. The car Doctors sometimes on again,

541
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: off again phone number. Thanks for the boys over at

542
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: E Voys. They do such a great job over there.

543
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: Decided to overhauld their website today and so far it's working.

544
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: You're able to get through, but jem, it doesn't work.

545
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: Try again. Hey, you know, never mind, never know, you

546
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: never know what might happen. I remember the motto of

547
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: E voice, who knows. So let's get over to the

548
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: phones if they're still there, and let's go talk to

549
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: Wayne in Augusta, Florida, Cherokee and some questions and falls

550
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: on how it runs. Wayne. Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir.

551
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: How can I help? Well? Thank you? Yeah, I've got

552
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: an eighty seven jup Cherokee. It's been in storage for

553
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: the last five years. Um, it's already got seven thousand

554
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: miles on it. Um. But I kind of went since

555
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: it came out. I went to it completely with all

556
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: new fluids, oils, cats, rotors, um plugs, the whole nine

557
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: yards and when you're going down the road, it has

558
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: like a hiccup or a miss. UM. It's also a

559
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: six cylinder full leader straight six fuel injected motor, and UM,

560
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: I just can't seem to work that buck out. I've

561
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: changed out all the fuel filters, UM, put some cleaner

562
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: through it, UM, and it just just it seems to

563
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: get in better. But then it still does it and

564
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it's coming out of it. And

565
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: I can't think of what it would be. Have you

566
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: happened to look at or consider taking a fuel pressure test,

567
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: I have it, okay, And then when you take that

568
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: fuel pressure test, I would be curious to see what

569
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: a fuel sample looks like. All right, And you know,

570
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: one of the great things about a fuel pressure test,

571
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: and I was talking about this earlier in the other hour, Um,

572
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: all diagnostics have to begin with some kind of diagnostic routine.

573
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: You gotta have a routine. You know. One of the

574
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: one of the bad habits we all form is I

575
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: think it's this. I think it's that. I don't think

576
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: test it. No. And you know there are those critics

577
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: out there that say, well, you can't test everything, And

578
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: the answer is, yeah, that's true. But if you have

579
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: the opportunity, because number one you'll know and number two

580
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: you'll learn. So I would do a fuel pressure test.

581
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: It's quick, it's simple. The test ports should be right

582
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: up front, if memory serves me correct, And once you

583
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: get fuel pressure, there should be a dump valve on that.

584
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: There should be a dump valve on that pressure gage, right,

585
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: and and then you can you know, we always use

586
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: a Snapple bottle in the shop. If it can fill.

587
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: If it can fill a pint Snapple bottle in thirty

588
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: seconds or less, that's good volume, good rule of thun.

589
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, there's a product out there from Mighty Vac.

590
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: It's a six gauge kit that will give you exact standards.

591
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: And you know we want rule of thumb here, all right, Uh,

592
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: the Snapple bottle will work. And then the nice thing

593
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: as you look at the Snapple bottle, is it clear?

594
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: Look at the fuel and that's where the fuel sample

595
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: will come. If there's any debris or grit in that

596
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: fuel sample. The next thing I would do is I

597
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: would consider, well, you gotta drop the tank, you gotta

598
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: find the source of the contamination. But then I would

599
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: also be looking at do what I have if I

600
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 1: did a cylinder power balance, do I have any issues

601
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: with the last two cylinders five and six, Because what

602
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: I've seen on the older jeeps, especially the ones that said,

603
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: if there's rust and crudd in the tank, the contaminant

604
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: gets trapped and the last two injectors and they don't

605
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: have fuel full volume of spray and will cause fuel

606
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: orvation and bucking and hesitation and things like that. And

607
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: then the next test you want to get into is

608
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: do a fuel injector pressure balanced test where you'll actually

609
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: pressurize the rail. It's a little pulse box. It'll pulse

610
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: the injector twenty milliseconds fifty milliseconds, and you'll watch pressure

611
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: drop and you'll see it's actually a flow test for

612
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: the injector, just as a possibility the seat of the pants.

613
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: I think diagnosis here, Wayne, I would be very particular

614
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: about ground straps, ground connections. How does the tps look,

615
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: the throttle position censor? Does it wave out correctly? All? Right?

616
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: A lot of problems there, and are all the vacuum

617
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: connections good. Lots of issues with leanness and um other areas.

618
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: They're little close hiccups and misfire. So take a look

619
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: at those things. You know my number. I'm here at

620
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: nine zero. Should you need me again? And thanks for

621
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: the call. I'm rononading in the car doctor. We're back

622
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back, Ro. Don't need in the

623
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: car doctor here. Kind of winding things down this hour.

624
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: Quick Fisa email. Hey Ron, I listened to your show

625
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: every Sunday on w i l S, Lansing, Michigan, ten

626
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: a m. To noon. Thank you, just from Bob. I

627
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: bought fluid film after you talked about it on your show.

628
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: I love the product. A few weeks later, I then

629
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: heard the interview with the guy from Gibbs Old Purpose Lubricate.

630
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: My question is do I need both of these products.

631
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm going around the house handy man and do light

632
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: automotive work. Thanks Bob. Um. Yeah, listen, Bob, you can

633
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: never have too many tools and you can never have

634
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: too many chemicals, and they don't really overlap each other.

635
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: Fluid film is a protective barrier. We use it, you know,

636
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: pretty much on the snow plow truck itself, the body

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Speaker 1: of the frame during the season, uh, you know, prevents

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Speaker 1: against rust and corrosion. It protects the body of the truck,

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Speaker 1: the undercarriage, the frame rails, the brake lines, the fuel lines,

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Speaker 1: those type of things. Gibbs is more of a penetrant

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Speaker 1: a lubricant, and it also is what I spray on

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Speaker 1: the plow when I park it at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season. It is a protectorant in that sense of

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Speaker 1: the word, because the one thing I like about gives

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Speaker 1: over fluid film. Fluid film can wash off. Gibbs tends

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Speaker 1: to penetrate into the metal, into the perosity of the

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Speaker 1: metal the object it's attached to, and it will it

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Speaker 1: will actually change the color. That's how you know it

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Speaker 1: that it's permeated in there and it sticks around. It

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Speaker 1: may not hold up under the extreme of winter corrosion,

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Speaker 1: but it will while it's sitting there, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: during the course of the summer. If you want more

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Speaker 1: information about Gives, it's get Gibbs dot com. Tell Uncle Jerry.

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Speaker 1: We said hello a moniney in the car. Doctor. The

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Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you sis star simple

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