WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Ledbetter Looks To Cook On D-Line

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<v Speaker 1>The Red Seeds Rising Up, timperaturizing vision, flurring rage, take

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Paul Calvis.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm one hundred percent ready.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you ab ready And Ron Wilfleeve it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>get any better than that.

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<v Speaker 5>Leash the fjord.

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<v Speaker 4>Right out of the gates.

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<v Speaker 3>We quote Cardinals starting center Yelda Froholt from earlier today,

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<v Speaker 3>Ron Wolflair, you can call him fro by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>That's what all the fellows call him.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's That's what I'm gonna go with.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote I'm ready, I'm ready to kick off the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Camp is always fun. The first couple of weeks and

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<v Speaker 3>then dot dot dot Yelder didn't finish the sentence, so

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<v Speaker 3>I will allow me to finish the sentence. Then the

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<v Speaker 3>first depth chart comes out. Then the first game and

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<v Speaker 3>time is running out. So you get the Mando urgency

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<v Speaker 3>and you get the intensity. And that's why you've seen

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<v Speaker 3>multiple training camp fights and fisticuffs, the skirmishes and scuffles

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<v Speaker 3>all this week. Whether it's the Raiders and Rams, Ravens

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<v Speaker 3>versus Commanders, Cowboys versus Cowboys, You've seen fights everywhere across

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL landscape because these guys realize I better go

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<v Speaker 3>down swinging and figuraedly to make a fifty three man roster.

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<v Speaker 4>Am I wrong? Ron Wolfley?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not saying you're wrong at all, Paul. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that's gonna happen right here, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is training camp. This goes on in training camp. You

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<v Speaker 1>can never ever accept it if it happens in a game.

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<v Speaker 1>You selfish dude, How could you possibly do that? Cost

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<v Speaker 1>us fifteen yards in a game. I'm talking about in

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<v Speaker 1>a regular season game. In a preseason game, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get fined, you could get suspended. It's just a selfish act.

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<v Speaker 1>But in training camp, PAULI, you're gonna see it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So a little bit later, we're gonna ask Jonathan Ledbetter,

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<v Speaker 3>Cardinals defensive lineman. Oh, by the way, running first team

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<v Speaker 3>on the first depth chart, Jonathan Ledbetter, We'll ask him

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<v Speaker 3>all about camp. We'll ask him how close he's been

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<v Speaker 3>to get into a camp fight. We'll ask him about

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<v Speaker 3>the culture shock, everything that goes into this camp under

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<v Speaker 3>Jonathan Gannon. And now you have a Cardinals team coming

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<v Speaker 3>off a preseason win. Ron Wolfley car Over Denver eighteen seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me a few initial likes. What did you like

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<v Speaker 3>about that game and that w you know what pull?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I would say the gap integrity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to use the word gap integrity of the

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<v Speaker 1>words I should say, because that's exactly what it was

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<v Speaker 1>across the board, from edge to edge. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was excellent when the starters were in, When the starters

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<v Speaker 1>were in in that first quarter, I thought they did

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<v Speaker 1>an excellent job against what I think is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a team that is really going to try to

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<v Speaker 1>run the ball and become a run first team to

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<v Speaker 1>actually use Russell Wilson and all of his talents. They

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<v Speaker 1>need to put him in a balanced offense. And to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Denver Broncos and p Ryan an excellent

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<v Speaker 1>running back. I think they're going to attack the line

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<v Speaker 1>of scrimmage a lot of what the Arizona Cardinals I

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<v Speaker 1>suspect them to do offensively, I think Sean Payton and

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<v Speaker 1>the Denver Broncos are going to do so. I loved

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<v Speaker 1>how they competed on the line of scrimmage defensively. That

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<v Speaker 1>was ball.

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<v Speaker 4>I like it. I like it. You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>Too many times, too often did we hear the words

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<v Speaker 3>gap integrity after the Cardinals gave up more than one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred yards rushing. You're right, because look, there're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>games where the opponent beats you, and they might beat

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<v Speaker 3>you with more talent, and that's probably gonna happen at

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<v Speaker 3>times this season. But it's very different than beating yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>And too often it was Cardinals beating Cardinals, whether it

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<v Speaker 3>was the lack of gap integrity, whether it was pre

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<v Speaker 3>snap penalties which oh, by the way, we only saw

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<v Speaker 3>one of those, We only saw four flags. Overall, it

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<v Speaker 3>was amazingly clean and efficient in so many different ways

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<v Speaker 3>that that debut, and to me, that's not nothing. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it symbolizes the attention to detail. It reinforces how

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<v Speaker 3>little things are big things in the NFL. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>here's Jonathan Gannon this week as to you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot to like, there's a lot to correct

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<v Speaker 3>from the Denver tay, but the players are looking at it.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm really enthused about our guys wanting to get better

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<v Speaker 6>off of that tape, you know, the first time, different schemes,

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<v Speaker 6>different players are going against and just trying to improve

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<v Speaker 6>our game. Kind of like I said after the game there,

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<v Speaker 6>the most important thing from the tape is you learn

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<v Speaker 6>from it.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's no doubt there are teaching moments, no question

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<v Speaker 3>about it. But in terms of an initial debut and

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<v Speaker 3>not knowing what to expect, even things like tackling Wolf right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how many times a preseason opener Tackling's atrocious?

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<v Speaker 3>Even that was clean for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul, you just cannot overstate how important it is to

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<v Speaker 1>get this live action, this live tape when the Silks

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<v Speaker 1>are on, to actually get it into a room, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>position room that is, and teach off of it. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're laying a new foundation schematically and philosophically. Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>how important do you think it is teaching off that

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<v Speaker 1>tape when you are laying that new foundation. It is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely huge. And it doesn't matter who you are. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter if you're a starter in that room, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're the fourteen guy in that room, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>every one of you. Maybe you're the third team guy

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<v Speaker 1>out there executing it. Maybe you got the red dot

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<v Speaker 1>on you, maybe you don't know if you're gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>the team or not. It doesn't matter, because coach is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna coach off what you did, and he's gonna teach

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else what is acceptable and what is not. He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use good examples, and he's gonna use negative examples

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But you teach and you learn big time

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<v Speaker 1>off that first tape.

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<v Speaker 3>And oh, by the way, you won the game, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, you did something that I think it

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<v Speaker 3>just helps the buy in with a new head coach

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<v Speaker 3>in a new scheme, a new system, a new way

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<v Speaker 3>of going about football. You won at home, something you

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<v Speaker 3>haven't done enough of the last couple of years. You

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<v Speaker 3>won at the very end of the game making some

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<v Speaker 3>smart decisions a clean game winning drive, so you know

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<v Speaker 3>you did it with a balanced offense for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, it was it was Dennis Gardick who said

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<v Speaker 3>after the game, you know what, we kept the game

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<v Speaker 3>plan simple. Okay, we're not even game planning for the opponent.

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<v Speaker 3>The real objective was to go out there and quote

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<v Speaker 3>establish an identity. And I think the Cardinals did that

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<v Speaker 3>in a lot of ways, don't you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they did, Paully, But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>you just said something there really caught my attention as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of that last possession. Think of that David blau

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback, Think of that last possession with ninety seconds

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<v Speaker 1>to go, Paully a minute thirty, and think about being

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<v Speaker 1>able to teach everybody off that situation right there. How

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<v Speaker 1>critical was that? You know what? It would not surprise

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<v Speaker 1>me if Drew Petsing would have had the entire offense

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<v Speaker 1>sit in one meeting room to watch that ninety seconds

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<v Speaker 1>right there, because of the opportunity of going up tempo

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<v Speaker 1>two minute here we go, and the way David Blaw

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<v Speaker 1>in the Cardinals offense executed that to get down the

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<v Speaker 1>field and actually score that touchdown. Man, I gotta tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a great teaching moment right there, as is

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<v Speaker 1>the two point conversion.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw a couple of undrafted rookie tight ends getting

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<v Speaker 3>involved in the preseason debut Blake Whiteheart, Joel Huntingford. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>those guys are fighting to make the team. At the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the depth chart in the tight end room

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<v Speaker 3>has been former pro bowler zach Ertz. And guess what

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<v Speaker 3>he was cleared to practice today coming off the pup

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<v Speaker 3>list after knee surgery. And here's starting quarterback Colt McCoy

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<v Speaker 3>on the return of zach Ertz.

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<v Speaker 7>It was just great to see him out of practice today, right.

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<v Speaker 7>He got a little bit of routes on air and

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<v Speaker 7>looks fantastic. So I think just, you know, slowly building

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<v Speaker 7>him up and getting him back going a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>is going to be a big boost for all of

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<v Speaker 7>us for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, look, he's not going eleven on eleven, he's not

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<v Speaker 3>expected to go Saturday night. But week one at Washington

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<v Speaker 3>zach Ertz on that field, that's looking more promising by

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<v Speaker 3>the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, if I were zach Er two man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd want to get one rep in in the preseason, Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd want to get one, maybe two, Paul, there, I

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<v Speaker 1>say three if I would want to get a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of reps before the game actually begins and is real

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<v Speaker 1>week one and you know, to me, that's just me.

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<v Speaker 1>But zach Ertz knows his body a lot better than

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<v Speaker 1>I do. What I love about this right here, PAULI

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<v Speaker 1>is if in fact the Arizona Cardinals are in games,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they will be in games. I do

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<v Speaker 1>because I think their offensive line is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>better than most people gives them credit for. And because

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<v Speaker 1>of that, I think they'll be in games. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to see a ton a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>twelve personnel, maybe the majority of the personnel groups will

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<v Speaker 1>be twelve two tight ends in rundown situation first and

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<v Speaker 1>ten second, and one to six because of zach Ertz,

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<v Speaker 1>because he's going to be the move tight end in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion. Now, they're going to mix it up between

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<v Speaker 1>eleven and twelve, There's no doubt about that. But zach

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<v Speaker 1>Ertz is going to be out on the field a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially out of twelve personnel, I like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>they can still run the ball more effectively than they

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<v Speaker 1>can out of eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia last year among the league leaders in twelve personnel.

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<v Speaker 3>Cleveland Drew Petsing where he was a year ago, led

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<v Speaker 3>the NFL in thirteen personnel.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye, so I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's coming a lot of tight ends, and that tight

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<v Speaker 3>end room, just like the O line room, I think

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<v Speaker 3>is better than many forecast. If zach Ertz, Trey McBride,

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<v Speaker 3>Jeff Swain, and one of the camp surprises Noah Tongi

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<v Speaker 3>I can all stay healthy, that's a pretty decent rotation.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you factor in play action, how many times

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<v Speaker 3>do you expect to see play action? Maybe the linebackers

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<v Speaker 3>suck up just enough for an experienced guy like zach

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<v Speaker 3>Ertz to find room in that coverage. Right in that

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<v Speaker 3>scheme exactly, I can see Cole McCoy using zach Ertz

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<v Speaker 3>as his security blanket in him getting eight to ten

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<v Speaker 3>targets in a game.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy doubt about it. Poly Seriously, I say amen to

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<v Speaker 1>that right there. And I'm also really looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>an eleven personnel group because I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>you can lean on zach Ertz. Eleven personal, one back,

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<v Speaker 1>one tight end, three wide receivers with Jeff Swain as

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<v Speaker 1>your tight end. That looks an awful lot like how

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<v Speaker 1>this Cardinal offense did with Max Williams. And that's important

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<v Speaker 1>for balance in Rundown.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, reminder the day Patch podcast. I mean it's up

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<v Speaker 3>what within the last twenty four hours Cardinals defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Rowllis. Just go to wherever you get your podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>your preferred podcast provider or via Twitter at pashpod. And

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, Nick Rollis's defense is going to get

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<v Speaker 3>the Kansas City Chiefs number ones for a half. That

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<v Speaker 3>is according to Andy Reid, that's Patrick Mahomes and company.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to go the entire first half on Saturday

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<v Speaker 3>Night before they mix in the twos and threes in

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<v Speaker 3>the third quarter. According to Andy Reid, Jonathan Ledbetter straight ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>As we continue with the Big Red Rage presented by

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<v Speaker 3>Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 7>Out of the gun, poor man rush.

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<v Speaker 3>Here comes a trail woods or blow on the move

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<v Speaker 3>to his right, looking survey throwing.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got a man foot corner of the.

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<v Speaker 3>En zone, jumped inside the pylon and it's a Cardinals touchdown.

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<v Speaker 4>David Flow go into the far side of the end

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<v Speaker 4>zone on the money to Brian Tom go for two.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it two seconds to go in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the two point conversion.

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<v Speaker 3>Cardinals trail seventeen sixteen blow inside handoff Demerricado trying the

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<v Speaker 3>right side.

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<v Speaker 4>Moving the pile into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 3>Two point conversion of Mariy deMercado muffless his way across

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<v Speaker 3>the goal line.

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<v Speaker 1>He has stopped three yards short and just keeps churning.

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<v Speaker 8>That is a hempo setting, tone setting type of victory

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<v Speaker 8>that we're witnessing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right here and a great, great opportunity for every one

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<v Speaker 1>in this organization to learn from.

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<v Speaker 3>Ill tell you as far as preseason games go, run wollefully,

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<v Speaker 3>no complaints, No complaints in the radio booth. I know

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<v Speaker 3>you and Dave Pash when Hollywood, you guys are on

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<v Speaker 3>in the TV booth going National and NFL Network. But

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<v Speaker 3>hey man, in terms of drama and keeping you know,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone engaged right to the final moments of a preseason game.

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<v Speaker 3>Forget about the sunflower seeds and putting your hat on backwards.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there was a game to go out and

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<v Speaker 3>be one and that's what the Cardinals did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I love that, Polly once again, the fact they

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<v Speaker 1>had ninety seconds to go down the field and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what David Blou did, and you orchestrated an excellent drive

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<v Speaker 1>down the field. They scored the touchdown. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>really loved is the fact that Drew Petsing, Oh, Drew Petsig,

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<v Speaker 1>you go eleven personnel, one back, one tight end in

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<v Speaker 1>three wide receivers on this two point conversion, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you run the ball right between the tackles. There's something

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<v Speaker 1>we can read in to the personality of Drew Petsing

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<v Speaker 1>right there. And I love the fact that he said

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<v Speaker 1>eleven personnel, which typically says at that point, here comes

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<v Speaker 1>a pass, here it comes No, they ran the ball

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<v Speaker 1>and they got that thing in with a little help

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<v Speaker 1>from his friends.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know what it makes me wonder? Well

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<v Speaker 4>two things.

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<v Speaker 3>Number One didn't take long for the Cardinals offense to

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<v Speaker 3>live up to that classic JG quote cram the ball vertical,

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<v Speaker 3>because they did it for a game winning two point conversion.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>He then used two more words this week that I

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<v Speaker 3>also wrote down. Wolf right next to cram the ball

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<v Speaker 3>vertical was the one who used this week create displacement

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<v Speaker 3>when talking about the old lineing he wants to see

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<v Speaker 3>create displacement. I love that one too. That's going down

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<v Speaker 3>on the JG sheet. But then in addition to that,

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<v Speaker 3>it was just it was that identity that Gardex spoke

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<v Speaker 3>of to go out and actually come up with a

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<v Speaker 3>game winner. I just think it's so important. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you come out and guess what you get into a

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<v Speaker 3>game week? And that's what Jonathan Gannon has done with

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas City on the schedule. Taking the Cardinals outside in

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<v Speaker 3>the heat. I'm here to tell you it is warm

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<v Speaker 3>out there, even a media pencil necks standing on the

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<v Speaker 3>sideline in the shade. I'm getting dehydrated, muscler much less

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<v Speaker 3>of these players. So Cole McCoy this week was talking

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<v Speaker 3>about how the new head coach was just shaping this

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<v Speaker 3>week leading up to Saturday night and the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 7>I think what's coach s Gannon has done this week

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<v Speaker 7>with us is really treat this like a game week,

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<v Speaker 7>not necessarily from scouting the Chiefs or putting a game

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<v Speaker 7>plan together for them, but more importantly, what's your process?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, what days are you watching? What tapes? Third downs,

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<v Speaker 7>red zone? Like, get into your routine and what it's

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<v Speaker 7>going to be like, get with your coaches to understand, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>I want to have these looks by this time of

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<v Speaker 7>day on you know, on Wednesday or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything's new. You have new coordinators, you have a new

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<v Speaker 3>head coach, there's a new way of doing things. So okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you try and settle in, and you know it is Wolf, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys are creatures of habit, and they want to know

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<v Speaker 3>what the expectations are come week one, going into Washington,

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<v Speaker 3>and so, okay, you're setting the vibe now because next

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<v Speaker 3>week you're going to joint practices and the week after

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<v Speaker 3>that is Labor Day and you're making final roster cuts.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the week that resembles the regular season.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt about that, Paul, it really is. And

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<v Speaker 1>also remember this too, the fact that they've gone to

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<v Speaker 1>three preseason games. I think eventually this is just me Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to two preseason games at some point in time.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact that they're at three preseason games right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that really puts a ton of emphasis on the second

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<v Speaker 1>preseason game. It used to be the third preseason game,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that right, Dennis Green. Everybody knows about the third

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<v Speaker 1>preseason game. That's when coaches typically would run their starters

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<v Speaker 1>out into the field. And Andy Reid was actually talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that very thing this week, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he might actually have his Kansas City Chiefs go out

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<v Speaker 1>and actually play a half. Now, not all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, Patrick Mahomes. I would doubt Patrick Mahomes is

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<v Speaker 1>going to play a half. But the second preseason game

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<v Speaker 1>is now taking on this new import because you only

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<v Speaker 1>play three. And it doesn't surprise me that JG is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to turn this into Okay, this is a little

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<v Speaker 1>dry run of what our regular season schedule is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be like.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>Andy Reid did tell the media today that his Ones

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<v Speaker 3>will go for the first half, but as the media

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<v Speaker 3>also cites in Kansas City, Andy Reid is notorious for

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<v Speaker 3>overpromising and under delivering in regards to preseason playing time.

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<v Speaker 3>For example, last week, he said the Ones will get

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<v Speaker 3>the entire first quarter, and he pulled most of them

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<v Speaker 3>after the first drive.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they score on that first drive, Polly, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think they did.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they went the length of the field, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I'm not sure they got into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it really doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>He pulled yeah, yeah, Derek Carr and the Saints, who

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<v Speaker 3>are much more intent. I'm putting on a show and

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<v Speaker 3>that preseason opener. But look, doesn't matter if you're if

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<v Speaker 3>you're any number of Cardinals players, you're getting the World champions,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're gonna get him for a half at least

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<v Speaker 3>the ones. And they didn't show very well against New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 3>so you figure they're gonna be intent and at least

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<v Speaker 3>bringing some intensity on Saturday Night, which means, okay, the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line going against that Kansas City front. And you

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<v Speaker 3>know what DJ Humphreys will see if he goes, because

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<v Speaker 3>I think there was a lot to be noticed by

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<v Speaker 3>the guys who did not play right by design. Whether

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<v Speaker 3>you're Buddha Baker, James Connor, Kaizer, White, DJ Humphries, these

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<v Speaker 3>are a few of the made men on this roster

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<v Speaker 3>that did not go.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see if d J.

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<v Speaker 3>Humphries does go on Saturday Night. He was talking to

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<v Speaker 3>the media this week, well and check this out. He

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<v Speaker 3>was asked about the toughest, meanest offensive linemen in the group.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't let the smile fool you, man, It's definitely mean.

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<v Speaker 8>Now Will probably probably will Will or big more like

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<v Speaker 8>I said, Pass definitely has a little little a hole

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<v Speaker 8>in'll you know what I mean, He'll take you to

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<v Speaker 8>the ground and like lay on you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's got love seeing that from him. And that's

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<v Speaker 8>his nature too. It's not that we have to jazz

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<v Speaker 8>him up to do that. That's like who he is.

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<v Speaker 8>We have to let the one one phrase I used

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<v Speaker 8>to love from Ba all the times that we'd rather

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<v Speaker 8>say wold than sick them, and like that's that's Paris

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<v Speaker 8>m modo.

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<v Speaker 4>Both of those guys are a wold guy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's one of the best things I heard all week. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>Will Hernandez, we know he's got a mean streak. Marquise Hayes,

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<v Speaker 3>the backup guard out of Oklahoma who was good for

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<v Speaker 3>starting to fight every other day of training camp last year,

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<v Speaker 3>we know that. In fact, West Jonathan led better. Next

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<v Speaker 3>about Mark, he says, we'll get into that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But when when they when you wear DJ say that

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<v Speaker 3>the number six pick overall, Paris Johnson Junior has that

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<v Speaker 3>sort of attitude and willingness to finish a guy off

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<v Speaker 3>snap after snap. I mean that's got to bode pretty well, right, No.

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<v Speaker 1>That does, Paulie, there's no doubt about that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to quickly. I have to rank get I

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<v Speaker 1>have to get my own rank right here. Okay, Hump

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<v Speaker 1>is at this point of his career. He still a dog,

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<v Speaker 1>full on dog, big time, but he's got so much

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<v Speaker 1>talent and he can use that talent, right Will Hernandez

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<v Speaker 1>no offense against Will, but he doesn't have the feat

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<v Speaker 1>that DJ Humphreys has and because of that, so much

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, Will's got to get into a fistfight,

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<v Speaker 1>and he does. He does. Remember this, Pali, Will Hernandez

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<v Speaker 1>fought JJ Watt JJ Watts last year in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Never forget that, Paul, the fact that he actually went

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<v Speaker 1>to blows with him. Right there, that's Will Hernandez and

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<v Speaker 1>that's who he is. So I agree with Hump and

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<v Speaker 1>what he said. Hump of course a closed second Moe

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a guy that will throw it. But Paris Johnson Junior,

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<v Speaker 1>to hear him his name actually invoked by DJ Humphries,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes me feel really really good because I respect

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<v Speaker 1>DJ so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying on our podcast Cardinals Underground, d J Humphries and

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<v Speaker 3>Paris Johnson Junior are very similar in that regard, very intelligent,

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<v Speaker 3>very outgoing, gregarious personalities, great smiles, but on game day,

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<v Speaker 3>totally different, dude, totally different. And that's what Paris Johnson

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<v Speaker 3>Junior is known for at Ohio State. In fact, he

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<v Speaker 3>told us about it on an episode of The Big

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<v Speaker 3>Red Rage in the off season that it's about a

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four hour process, a transformation where he becomes a

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<v Speaker 3>savage by kickoff, and it was it was really fascinating

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<v Speaker 3>to hear him go through that because even his mom

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<v Speaker 3>cited that on draft night said, he's a gentle giant

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<v Speaker 3>until you kick the ball off.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul, I know that. I know that kind of transformation.

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<v Speaker 1>Paul I do. I'm not trying to say look at me,

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<v Speaker 1>but man, I guarantee you for four hours before a game.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was it actually started much much sooner than that.

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<v Speaker 1>But those last four hours I was in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room getting ready the ball out. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my goodness, I know what that transformation is so real quick.

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<v Speaker 3>The one offensive lineman who actually went viral after the

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<v Speaker 3>first preseason game was yelled a fro hol at the

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<v Speaker 3>starting center. Yes he bodies lam Zach Allen and then

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<v Speaker 3>got out against a corner and flatten hum on a screen.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you make of the center, because obviously that was

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<v Speaker 3>a big question mark in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I loved his physicality. I love the way he

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<v Speaker 1>moved as well, Pauly, didn't you. I mean he was

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<v Speaker 1>moving around right there. I was really impressed with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But most importantly, it's the fact he knows this offense

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<v Speaker 1>so well, and that is going to expedite the process

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<v Speaker 1>of every other offensive lineman and that offensive line getting better.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a great point.

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<v Speaker 3>Only four career starts at center, but he's had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of starts at guard, so he knows offensive line

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<v Speaker 3>play and he knows the offense. To your point, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and then combined with a fourteen years experience of Cole McCoy,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to figure they're going to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>diagnose any front that they're going to throw at the

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<v Speaker 3>D Lineman Jonathan Ledbetter next on the Big Red Rage

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<v Speaker 3>presented by Santan Ford.

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<v Speaker 4>In Gilbert.

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<v Speaker 3>Second and seven play action, ripman steps up, hit and sacked.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Ledbetter that gets him at the thirty yard line.

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<v Speaker 4>A loss of seven.

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<v Speaker 9>Great leader, great teammate, great locker room guy. In the

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<v Speaker 9>run game, he's excellent technician, plays really well with his hands.

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<v Speaker 9>He's strong at the point of attack.

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<v Speaker 4>If he gets a.

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<v Speaker 9>Double team, he can incher it down. He's not getting moved.

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<v Speaker 9>If he gets a single block, he can play primary

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 9>a secondary gap, and he's pushing the pocket in the

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<v Speaker 9>pass games.

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<v Speaker 3>Defensive coordinator Nick Rowlis with some props and praise for

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<v Speaker 3>our special guest tonight on the Big Red Rage presented

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<v Speaker 3>by Santan Fordying Gilbert. You heard the highlight there from

0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 3>the game at Denver late last season. Let's see here,

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:47.240
<v Speaker 3>six tackles, tackle for loss, quarterback hit, first career full

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 3>sack for Jonathan Ledbetter is our guest tonight, and he

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<v Speaker 3>most definitely just finished a practice.

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<v Speaker 1>That one.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me give you props and praise because there's a

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 3>media pencil next standing standing in the shade. I could

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:03.920
<v Speaker 3>barely take the heat. What's it like practicing out there

0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 3>in the Arizona Triple Digits.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, it's definitely definitely hot out there. We're just getting

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:10.840
<v Speaker 5>back in the grind and kind of used to things

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 5>being in the heat. You know, whole training camp. We

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:15.360
<v Speaker 5>were kind of in our stadium inside in the air conditioning,

0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:17.879
<v Speaker 5>so it definitely feels a little bit different. But like

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:19.760
<v Speaker 5>I said, you gotta go out there, You got to grind.

0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 5>You just got to kind of feel those elements and

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 5>it pushes you to be a better player. So you

0:24:24.040 --> 0:24:24.760
<v Speaker 5>just got to embrace it.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, whatever the joint practices at Minnesota throw at you

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:31.879
<v Speaker 3>next week, easy, right, whatever Washington is all about. Week one,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing compared to what you guys got this week.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely. I think it was like one to ten by

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<v Speaker 4>like nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>So are you one of those guys who loses a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of weight from the beginning to the end of practice.

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<v Speaker 4>I am, So I've been having to eat. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>We weighed in today and I actually, man, I cooked

0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 5>last night, so I was like, I didn't want to

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 5>eat too late, but I was like, man, I've probably

0:24:48.080 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 5>lost like six pounds, so I was underweight actually, so

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:53.680
<v Speaker 5>it was okay, But I lose a bunch of weight

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:55.200
<v Speaker 5>just through sweat, just kind of fluctuated.

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<v Speaker 4>I've always been like that since college.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So we're gonna save this cooking debate until later.

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:03.080
<v Speaker 3>But since you brought it up, your teammate in the.

0:25:03.119 --> 0:25:03.760
<v Speaker 4>D line room.

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:04.159
<v Speaker 8>L J.

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<v Speaker 3>Collier took exception with apparently something you told media member

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Camcox twelve News about your abilities in the kitchen.

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:18.520
<v Speaker 4>Here's l J. Collier, Jonathan Ledbetter. Haven't cooked anything we

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<v Speaker 4>go out to eat.

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<v Speaker 5>If anything, I feel like if anybody is the best

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<v Speaker 5>cooking the D line room, it's me.

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 4>I make one hell of a steak. Shout out to

0:25:25.400 --> 0:25:30.360
<v Speaker 4>trager Man. Okay, so he's flexing his ability to grill

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.480
<v Speaker 4>a steak. Yeah, the only steak he grew is still

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 4>in his freezer. So he told us. He told us

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:36.680
<v Speaker 4>he was gonnavite everybody over to come to the pool

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 4>and he was like, I'm buying steak.

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 5>So I'm buying chicken wings and we just didn't make it.

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 5>So I think it's still in his freezer or it's

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.680
<v Speaker 5>in the trash. Well, that's what camp's all about. You

0:25:44.760 --> 0:25:48.560
<v Speaker 5>got to prove it right exactly every day. Yeah, what's

0:25:48.600 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 5>it been like in that D line room? Let me

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<v Speaker 5>ask you this, how have you guys been treating Dante

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.479
<v Speaker 5>still's the sixth round rookie? Because some of the stories

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm hearing not at the old line room, I mean

0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 5>the demands.

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<v Speaker 3>The you know of pairs Johnson Junior and John Gaines,

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 3>guys like Kelvin Beacham making him cut the sandwiches into triangles.

0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's like unnecessarily harsh. I mean, how do

0:26:08.320 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 3>you guys treating Dante Steels these days?

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 5>We got two rooks right now. So we got Dante

0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 5>Stiles and Jacob slid Man, and they've been great. Man,

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.200
<v Speaker 5>they haven't had to do too much. We're kind of

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 5>a laid back group. You know, I think the oldest

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 5>guy in the room, I'm not even the oldest guy

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 5>in year five, but I think the oldest guy is Carlos,

0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:27.240
<v Speaker 5>so you know, he's only in year six or seven. So,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we keep it cool, man. We don't make

0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 5>them do too much. We did a sprite challenge, like

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 5>they had to drink a whole sprite without like you know,

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 5>burping or breathing in our meeting room. So that was

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 5>a little joke we did. And then they just did

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 5>their little rookie skit. So they went up and sang

0:26:41.560 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 5>and and Dante did pretty good. Jacob tried to sing

0:26:44.240 --> 0:26:46.480
<v Speaker 5>something from SpongeBob and everybody was not having it, so

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 5>he got booed pretty quickly.

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:50.919
<v Speaker 3>Did anybody steal the rookie the Rookie Town Show? Who

0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:51.640
<v Speaker 3>is the best dude?

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 5>I would say Dante and John John. John was really good.

0:26:56.400 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 5>He actually was singing his heart out up there.

0:26:58.160 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:00.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he was singing. He was he got he's got

0:27:00.440 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 4>a voice.

0:27:02.160 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what, it's interesting. DJ Humphreys was asked

0:27:04.880 --> 0:27:09.320
<v Speaker 3>early in camp about the culture shift that Jonathan Gannon

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.360
<v Speaker 3>has brought as the head coach, and DJ cut off

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 3>the interviewer and you know what, it's really been more

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:15.880
<v Speaker 3>like a culture shot shock.

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 4>How would you describe man? I love him.

0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.360
<v Speaker 5>I love I love his energy, just how he approaches

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 5>practice and approaches situations and just everything in the game.

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 5>Like it's clear and concise, so you know what you're doing,

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 5>but not only that, you know why you're doing it.

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 5>And I think that's the most important thing for you know,

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.040
<v Speaker 5>athletes and football players, especially in the professional roun you

0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 5>kind of get a better understanding of the game. You know,

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 5>everybody's good, everybody's fast, everybody's strong, but it's that edge,

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:45.920
<v Speaker 5>that you know, mental edge that gives you the you know,

0:27:46.240 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 5>up one on your opponents. And he emphasizes that as

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 5>he coaches and as he teaches, and and he's literally

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 5>like one of the guys, so like, it's so cool.

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 5>You go out there, you'd be like, bro, like, what

0:27:55.920 --> 0:27:57.520
<v Speaker 5>are you seeing here? He's like, no, Bro, what are

0:27:57.560 --> 0:27:59.000
<v Speaker 5>you seeing here? And then we talk and you know,

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.040
<v Speaker 5>you just kind of move forward from that, and you know,

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:02.960
<v Speaker 5>not all coaches are like that, So it's definitely. You know,

0:28:03.000 --> 0:28:04.479
<v Speaker 5>I'm grateful to have them here, and I know all

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 5>the guys are as well, and we're excited to get

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:07.280
<v Speaker 5>things rolling.

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Man, it's it's been great.

0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:11.439
<v Speaker 3>Look, this Cardinals team a year ago led the NFL

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 3>in pre snap penalties. Little things are big things in

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:17.479
<v Speaker 3>a league where more than half the games are decided

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.400
<v Speaker 3>by a single touchdown or less, so those little things

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 3>can add up over the course of a game. There's

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 3>no doubt Jonathan ledbetter as our guest defensive line in

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Arizona Cardinals. Have you been held accountable by JG?

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 1>Yet?

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Seems like everyone has a story where JG called him

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 3>out and either corrected them or put them on the spot.

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 7>Oh.

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:34.440
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely.

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 5>I think two years ago I actually had to play

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 5>in the game, or actually last year I had to

0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:41.080
<v Speaker 5>play in a game where I was aligned off sides

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 5>and for now, for us, that's a non negotiable. So

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 5>you know that's literally like that does not happen. You know,

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 5>that's a pre snap thing that you can control. We're

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 5>always emphasized and control of the controllables, and you know,

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 5>do what you can to prevent, you know, things from

0:28:54.600 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 5>happening bad to the team, and like you can't align

0:28:56.960 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 5>off sides, no illegal formations, no illegal shifts, just things

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 5>like that, you know, just to make you better as

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 5>a player, just so you're smart, you know, you got

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 5>to be aware.

0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 3>So the first official depth chart came out last week

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:11.600
<v Speaker 3>and you're running first team.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 4>Yes, sir, how big? How big a deal is that?

0:29:15.080 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 5>Man? Well, if anybody that knows me, you know, I'm

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:18.520
<v Speaker 5>a journeyman and you know, so I've been up and

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 5>down in the league. You know, I was undrafted, and

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 5>it's just a blessing. You know that my hart work

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 5>is finally you know, being able to give some being

0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 5>given some credit. And you know, I'm just blessed. And

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 5>I know I got to go out there every day

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 5>and continue to earn that starting spot. And you know,

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm grateful for my coaching staff that they believe in me.

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:34.920
<v Speaker 5>It just makes me want to go out there and

0:29:34.960 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 5>play that much harder for them and the guys.

0:29:36.760 --> 0:29:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan led better. I guess you were a team captain

0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 3>at Georgia your senior year, right, I mean, yes, you

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 3>were second team All SEC. We saw the game you

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 3>put together at Denver. We heard the highlight, we saw

0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 3>the box score. How much upside do you think you

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:50.560
<v Speaker 3>still have in this league?

0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 5>I think I'm just getting started, you know. I've been

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 5>kind of grinding my way to get where I am now,

0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 5>to just get on the field.

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, I got to.

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 5>Arizona, I ended up playing one game under Cliff in

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 5>my first year, and then I was on kind of

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:03.680
<v Speaker 5>practice squad the rest of the year. And the last

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 5>year I kind of was able to put some stuff

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.400
<v Speaker 5>on tape and you know, string some good games together

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 5>and continue to, you know, do whatever the team needed

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 5>to be me to be as a role player. And

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.200
<v Speaker 5>I still believe I am the role player. You know,

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 5>I'm always going to be that. Whatever the team needs,

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 5>whatever my guys need for me, I'm going to be

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 5>there and do it for them.

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, because you know what everyone said about this

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 3>defensive line room all off season, The narrative was something

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 3>like this For media pencil necks like me. There were

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 3>thirty six sacks by the Cardinals defense. Exactly half of

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 3>them walked out the door. In JJ Watt and Zach Allen.

0:30:32.280 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot for that d line room to prove,

0:30:34.560 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>isn't there? And what do you do I mean, as

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 3>a group, where do you think this this team is

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 3>headed on along that defensive front, because we know how

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 3>demoralizing it is. If you can't get to the quarterback,

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 3>if you can't stop the run, it's gonna be a

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 3>long night.

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, absolutely. You know, we've been working hard.

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 5>Like I said, everybody in our room has a chip

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 5>on their shoulder. You know, everyone has a story, everyone's

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:56.080
<v Speaker 5>you know, had a background. And I think those are

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:58.480
<v Speaker 5>the teams that end up actually surprising people, you know.

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 5>And I don't really care what people thing. I don't

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 5>really care about the media. I believe in myself. I

0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 5>believe in my guys, and I believe in this organization.

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 5>And we work hard every day. We go out there

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 5>to push ourselves, you know, and our coach puts us

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 5>in the best possible position to win.

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 4>And you know, at the end of the day. You

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 4>got to go out there and do just that. You

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 4>gotta win.

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:16.960
<v Speaker 5>So we're gonna we're gonna do what we need to

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 5>do as a team and continue to elevate. And you know,

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:21.520
<v Speaker 5>we did lose Ac, that was my guy. We lost

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 5>JJ two and you know they're two great players, you know.

0:31:24.480 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 5>But we got a great room, and like I said,

0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 5>I believe in every single person in there, and I

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 5>know that we're gonna get the job done.

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 4>Sounds like you're close with LJ.

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Collair.

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.479
<v Speaker 5>I'm close with all the guys, so we're all close, man.

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, there's my due. We actually played in the

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 5>senior ball together when we came.

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I get it, Okay, okay, I mean it sounds like

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 3>he's got something to prove as a former first round pick.

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely absolutely, And man, we're working together so that everybody

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 5>can prove it. Man, everybody can eat. You know, there's

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 5>enough food at the table for everybody to have their

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 5>full What do you think of Nick Rowlis so far?

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.360
<v Speaker 5>Talking to some of the coaches, they're like, you know

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 5>what one more than Nick Rowl's your defensive coordinator, assassin, Like, wow,

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 5>he's aggressive, isn't it he is?

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:03.280
<v Speaker 4>He is man. I love playing like that. Man.

0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 5>It gives you chances, it gives you opportunities, and it's

0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.640
<v Speaker 5>not so much as you know, a defense that's just

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 5>clear cut, like he's like, hey, like what do you see?

0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.800
<v Speaker 5>What do you feel? Let's do this so you can

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:15.400
<v Speaker 5>do this. Let's free you up right here, you know,

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 5>just just any opportunity to allow you to go play

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 5>football how you play it. He's trying to give you that.

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<v Speaker 5>And like I said, the understanding of the game itself

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<v Speaker 5>is what they teach, not only scheme. So it's just

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<v Speaker 5>like a breath of fresh air because you're kind of

0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 5>getting it on two ends and you're like, okay, well

0:32:29.320 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 5>I understand this, so now I can go do this

0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 5>within the scheme. And that's really cool because you know,

0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.800
<v Speaker 5>some places, you know, it's just like hey, go straight

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 5>do this, you know, and that's it.

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 4>You know, just do your job.

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 5>But here, it's like we got a really smart room,

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 5>so we're able to put more stuff on our guys

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 5>on the D line and our outside linebackers too, you know,

0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 5>be able to draw things up and dial things up

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 5>to make it fun and be aggressive and attack.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Jonathan, that defensive line was disruptive in the

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:58.239
<v Speaker 3>preseason opener. You guys were in the backfield quite a bit.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:01.240
<v Speaker 3>You guys were hitting, harassing Russell Wilson. Now you get

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Kansas City, Andy Reid says, the starter is gonna play

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 3>most of the first half. They're known for having one

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 3>of the better interior old lines in the NFL.

0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 4>You like that, You like that when you get to

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 4>go against the starters.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely. I was actually mad that we didn't get to play.

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm always, like I said, I've been the

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.680
<v Speaker 5>underdog guy. So you know, preseason for me is like

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 5>you're playing all preseason. So it's just different this year.

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, I only played a couple of snaps in

0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 5>the beginning, and like, once I got started, I was like, man, coach,

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 5>I want some more, you know, And like all the

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 5>guys are like that. Man, everybody's hungry. Like I said,

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 5>it's that chip on their shoulders. So you know, even

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 5>this preseason game, I'm treating like a real game.

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:32.680
<v Speaker 5>I'm going out there and I'm putting stuff on tape

0:33:32.680 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 5>that I know that i need to work on and

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 5>to prepare myself to be ready for the season.

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 4>And everybody on this team and on the squad is

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 4>doing just that.

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 3>How close have you been to get into a fight

0:33:41.640 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 3>in camp? Come on, now there's been O line D

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.719
<v Speaker 3>line guys hot, they're getting shippy.

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm usually the guy like last year, like I'm the reason,

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 5>like we had a whole team fight, like in the indoor,

0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 5>like the O line D line, Like I was probably

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 5>the reason that erupted. This year, I've been trying to

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 5>be a better leader for the guys, So I say

0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 5>I've been the guy like breaking up the fight, trying

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 5>to go out there and everybody down to be the mediator,

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 5>because I know once I go, I'm going like somebody's

0:34:04.080 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 5>got to get me. So I'm just trying to make

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:08.200
<v Speaker 5>sure everybody's cool. And you know, we're all family. So

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 5>even in stuff that happens out there, man, we we

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:11.320
<v Speaker 5>squash it.

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:11.879
<v Speaker 4>We come back.

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 5>We know football is a chippy game and we love

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 5>each other man. Like it's just it's always done and

0:34:16.160 --> 0:34:17.919
<v Speaker 5>always left on the field before we come back.

0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 7>In the locker room.

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 4>Okay, what can you tell us about last year? What happened?

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Were you trying it was a by design? We're trying

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:23.920
<v Speaker 3>to make a statement. You're trying to get noticed by

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:25.000
<v Speaker 3>the coaches or you're.

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 5>Actually doing one on ones. And I think I was

0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 5>going against MO and the first rep I won, and

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:31.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, like you just get a little chippy in there, man,

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 5>and you know you trash talking talking smack, and you

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:35.800
<v Speaker 5>know what, He's like, Oh, let's run it back. And

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:37.399
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, man, you're a rook man. You don't get

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 5>to run it back, you know what, an older guy.

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 5>So you know, we run it back. And he actually

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 5>had a good rep.

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 6>Man.

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 5>He actually stopped me kind of like when I was

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 5>trying to throw my swipe and the rep was over

0:34:47.719 --> 0:34:49.359
<v Speaker 5>and they blew the whistle. But he tried to keep

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 5>driving and keep going and try to take me to

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:51.400
<v Speaker 5>the ground.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 4>And I got up.

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 5>Man, I just start swinging cause I'm just like, yo, man,

0:34:54.680 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 5>like we don't go to the ground. Like what's was blown,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 5>it's over, plays dead. And as soon as I got

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 5>up and swung on him, I'm not gonna lie. I

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 5>saw JJ he just came out of nowhere and literally

0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 5>speared him and then everything erupted. They cut the clip,

0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 5>they cut everything, and everything erupted.

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:12.399
<v Speaker 4>We canceled. Practice was over. Practice was over.

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:15.680
<v Speaker 3>You probably got you probably got thanks in the locker room,

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 3>and I gotta chewed out too, who was one of

0:35:20.360 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 3>the other the players. It was great for the coaches,

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.520
<v Speaker 3>not so much. I'm actually shocked Marquise Hayes has not

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 3>started a fight yet in this camp. I'm actually shocked

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 3>by that because.

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 5>Man, he's he's been working on his discipline and he's

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:31.799
<v Speaker 5>been working on getting better.

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 4>I love that kid.

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:35.480
<v Speaker 5>He's he's he's he's big, he's strong, and when he

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 5>puts everything together, it looks good.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, we look forward to what preseason game number two.

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 4>We look forward to the joint practices next week in Minnesota.

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:46.280
<v Speaker 4>Be nothing like Arizona. I mean, you gotta be totally easy. Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you for the time. I appreciate you guys, thanks

0:35:48.000 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 4>for having me. There we go.

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan led Better on the big red rage presented by

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 3>santan forward in Gilbert Fack. Right after this, Jared stood

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 3>him in the gon to the year after a play

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 3>action fig on the move throws and it's broken up

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.720
<v Speaker 3>nearly picked off by key Trell Clark.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.200
<v Speaker 4>And you want to evaluate guys. You want to be

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 4>able to see what they can do. Can they play

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:12.399
<v Speaker 4>his own?

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Can they play man Key Tell Clark is the guy

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that they are very high on.

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 4>Key Trail Clark is looking very comfortable out there in

0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 4>this circumstance. I love what I'm seeing from.

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Him right now.

0:36:21.920 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 10>I really say that it's a it's a good energy

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 10>going around the room. At the end of the day,

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.239
<v Speaker 10>we all know that we're competing to play on the

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 10>field and only two corners can be out there at

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 10>the same time. But there's no hate or anything. We

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.960
<v Speaker 10>all want to make each other better and we're just

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.040
<v Speaker 10>gonna continue to just strive to be our best sales

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:40.600
<v Speaker 10>every day. And you know, when the game day comes,

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:41.600
<v Speaker 10>we'll know who'll be out.

0:36:41.520 --> 0:36:46.080
<v Speaker 3>There six round rookie Key Trell Clark, who sons like

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:48.680
<v Speaker 3>anything but a rookie. I mean, you talk about precocious.

0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 3>That was part of the postgame interview with Drew stan

0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:53.520
<v Speaker 3>youers truly ron Mopefully. Here we are on the Big

0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 3>Red Rage presented by sand tan Ford in Gilbert Special

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 3>thanks to Jonathan Ledbetter. That was some good stuff about

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 3>play by play of him starting that fight with Marquise

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Hayes a year ago. Right, so he's been on his

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 3>p's and q's this time around, but the fight at

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.800
<v Speaker 3>cornerback Wolf and to hear Keith Trell Clark later in

0:37:11.880 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 3>that interview, he took us through a play by play

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 3>of what he saw leading up to the pass breakup,

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 3>and Drew Stan looked at me and like, raise both eyebrows.

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:22.680
<v Speaker 3>He's like, that is next level analysis for a rookie corner.

0:37:22.800 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 3>So if he's thinking the game already at that level,

0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 3>no wonder he's making run at a starting corner spot

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 3>just considering. Guess what, everything is wide open at that

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 3>position group, Yeah.

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>No doubt about it, Paully. It's a great position room

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>to actually get the opportunity to go play that dB room,

0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that corner back room right there, and he is getting

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 1>that opportunity. I love what I'm seeing from him. He's

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.400
<v Speaker 1>got some swag to him, Polly, which I really like.

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>He's very, very confident, and that's great. But can I

0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 1>just say right now, that's where rookie corners are gonna

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>be coming into the LEA because you can't play cornerback

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.359
<v Speaker 1>and try to play cornerback in the NFL unless you've

0:38:05.400 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 1>got an awful lot of confidence. What happens, and this

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.719
<v Speaker 1>is just me, what happens when suddenly you go out

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and Pat Mahomes lights you up. You know, how do

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>you respond? Then after that? That really is going to

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.320
<v Speaker 1>be the key for key Trout Clark.

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 3>We saw Anteonio Hamilton come in the second half now

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.279
<v Speaker 3>but the ultra veteran and he immediately has a pick,

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 3>almost had a second. Yes, he ended up with that

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:32.919
<v Speaker 3>pass interference penalty call against him, but there was nearly

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 3>a sack on that play that would have saved him.

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.239
<v Speaker 3>Then there's Christian Matthew, the second year, seventh rounder. I

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:42.600
<v Speaker 3>mean his size and his ability to really stay close

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 3>with the receivers in camp. You saw it again in

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 3>the game. So Nick rollis the defensive coordinator, met the

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 3>media today and he was asked about how that cornerback

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<v Speaker 3>competition is shaping up.

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<v Speaker 9>Great competition, guys that are locked in and improving every day.

0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 9>I'm seeing a lot of growth. I'm seeing the competition

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:05.680
<v Speaker 9>get really tight, but also a room that is together,

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:08.359
<v Speaker 9>and those guys, when I see each other, get better

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:12.120
<v Speaker 9>and are pushing each other. And I'm happy with the progress.

0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 9>We got a lot more progress to make, but I'm

0:39:14.680 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 9>excited over the next However, many weeks I camp we

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 9>have left to see who really steps in and takes

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 9>certain roles.

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 3>There were two media finds earlier this week. There's the

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 3>third because that's actually from the Dave Pash podcast. Right there,

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:30.279
<v Speaker 3>Nick rowllis visiting with Dave some great stuff. Would you

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 3>make the defense in the debut? And what do you

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 3>think about some of those position battles and where they

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:37.000
<v Speaker 3>stand right now?

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:37.279
<v Speaker 7>Wolf?

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Where's your eye going to go on Saturday night against

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Casey Well Paully.

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, first of all, I thought, once again the

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>defense superseded every expectation I had. I thought they played

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>really really well, especially the starters. Of course in that

0:39:49.880 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 1>first quarter that really blew my mind. Cornerback at the

0:39:54.600 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>cornerback room is definitely that's very very competitive. I like

0:39:58.560 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Hamilton coming out as the starter week one. I

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 1>like that he did make some plays as well. We'll

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:08.759
<v Speaker 1>see how it goes. That's not a slam on anybody else.

0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I think Key Trell Clark is gonna be your nickel

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>corner of course, opposite of Marco. Let me just say this,

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:18.000
<v Speaker 1>what will I be watching? First of all, Paul, I'm

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna be watching the offense in regard to running the

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 1>tackle zone, running the stretch play running the outside play

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>better than what they did, especially the starters running that

0:40:29.640 --> 0:40:33.360
<v Speaker 1>play better. That is the integral play to this offense.

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.800
<v Speaker 1>When you take a quarterback and you stick them under center,

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:40.400
<v Speaker 1>especially in rundown situation. You're saying, we've got five plays

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>and I'm simplifying it for effect, but we got five

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>plays we're gonna run. The problem is we could run

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the ball or we could throw the ball in. You

0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>on the second level and third level don't know what

0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do. If we execute correctly, you're gonna have

0:40:56.320 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>to guess and see that's the problem. That's the problem.

0:41:00.640 --> 0:41:03.360
<v Speaker 1>So for me, it all starts with being able to

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.439
<v Speaker 1>run that play. Execute that play where you can rip

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 1>that ball for four five on a regular basis, running

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 1>that tackle zone play. That's what I'm looking for. Number one.

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Number two, more play action, Polly. I want to see

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:22.479
<v Speaker 1>more play action off of that action, that tackle zone

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>stretch play action, whether it's a boot, a waggle, or

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 1>a straight seven step drop in the pocket. I want

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>to see more play action. And then finally, Polly, I

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:37.080
<v Speaker 1>want to see some gap integrity, just like what we

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<v Speaker 1>saw on the defensive line. You and I have had

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation many many times. That is my concern. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's your concern as well, being able to actually

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<v Speaker 1>stop the run. What I saw them do in that

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<v Speaker 1>first quarter the starters against the Denver Broncos was very encouraging.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to see them follow it up with the

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<v Speaker 1>same type of gap integrity attacking that that line of

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<v Speaker 1>scrimmage with their front six or seven.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's great stuff. You know what, I'll name some

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<v Speaker 3>names going back to offense where you started. Michael Wilson,

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<v Speaker 3>he only played a couple of series. Love to see

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<v Speaker 3>more out of him against Kansas City. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 3>see Trey McBride, who's been back of practice this week.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly what do they have in mind for Trey McBride,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think he's gonna be on the move a

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<v Speaker 3>lot as an HVAC slash tight end. And then when

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<v Speaker 3>you get over to the defense, I'd love to see

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<v Speaker 3>my j Sanders and even more bj Ojalai All. We'd

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<v Speaker 3>love to see those two guys out there because I'm

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<v Speaker 3>with you. Zamon Collins, Dennis Gardek, Cam Thomas had a sack.

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<v Speaker 3>They all exceeded expectations. I thought they all looked regular

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<v Speaker 3>season ready, there's no question about that. So I'd love

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<v Speaker 3>to see some of those other edge guys because we've

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<v Speaker 3>even seen Jesse Luketta and Victor d Mukage run with

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<v Speaker 3>the ones at times. So what are they doing at

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<v Speaker 3>that outside linebacker spot? It seems much more deep in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of that depth in that room than we ever envision.

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<v Speaker 3>There's that, and then of course, okay, what are you

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do with inside linebacker behind KUYSI?

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<v Speaker 4>You're white.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a hotly congested competition too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so fascinating, Bully. You play by play

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<v Speaker 1>guys are all about the players. Yes, And here I

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<v Speaker 1>am as a color analyst, of course, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Drew would probably agree with me. Here. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what we're all about the play, you know, figure about

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<v Speaker 1>the player. It's the play. This is a brand new scheme, Pully.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is a brand new coaching staff. We're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to late this brand new foundation. What do we

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<v Speaker 1>what are we running here? What kind of personnel groups

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<v Speaker 1>and what kind of plays are we actually running? The scheme?

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<v Speaker 1>The scheme, the scheme, I'm fascinated with it. And you

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<v Speaker 1>play by play guys are all the same.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, who's on the field for the first play?

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<v Speaker 3>And Drew stan was like, no, what is the first play?

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<v Speaker 3>But you know the one, the one that we agreed

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<v Speaker 3>on was Clayton Tune, who yes, who guess what looked

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<v Speaker 3>like a rookie early?

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what, so did Oh? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>They're number one or number two pick in the draft, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud both struggled big time in

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<v Speaker 3>their preseason debut.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yes, rookie.

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<v Speaker 3>Quarterbacks, they have this initiation period. But what did you

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<v Speaker 3>see out of Clayton Tune as the game went on?

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<v Speaker 3>And what more do you want to see out of

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<v Speaker 3>the rookie quarterback Saturday night?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I just want to see a little bit more accuracy.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he did an excellent job with his poise.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I just tell you my general overall feel of

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton tomb PAULI, Yep, this kid's got my attention. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got my attention. He's got to be more accurate, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's something there. He's got my attention.

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<v Speaker 3>So you realize The Kansas City Chiefs wrapt up camp

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<v Speaker 3>today at Missouri Western State University in Saint Joseph, Missouri.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh does that sound like one of year old Saint

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<v Speaker 3>Louis Cardinals training camps?

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