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Speaker 1: The Red Seeds Rising Up, timperaturizing vision, flurring rage, take
Speaker 1: it over.
Speaker 2: Here's Paul Calvis.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 4: I'm one hundred percent ready.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you ab ready And Ron Wilfleeve it doesn't
Speaker 3: get any better than that.
Speaker 5: Leash the fjord.
Speaker 4: Right out of the gates.
Speaker 3: We quote Cardinals starting center Yelda Froholt from earlier today,
Speaker 3: Ron Wolflair, you can call him fro by the way,
Speaker 3: That's what all the fellows call him.
Speaker 1: Here's That's what I'm gonna go with.
Speaker 3: Quote I'm ready, I'm ready to kick off the season.
Speaker 3: Camp is always fun. The first couple of weeks and
Speaker 3: then dot dot dot Yelder didn't finish the sentence, so
Speaker 3: I will allow me to finish the sentence. Then the
Speaker 3: first depth chart comes out. Then the first game and
Speaker 3: time is running out. So you get the Mando urgency
Speaker 3: and you get the intensity. And that's why you've seen
Speaker 3: multiple training camp fights and fisticuffs, the skirmishes and scuffles
Speaker 3: all this week. Whether it's the Raiders and Rams, Ravens
Speaker 3: versus Commanders, Cowboys versus Cowboys, You've seen fights everywhere across
Speaker 3: the NFL landscape because these guys realize I better go
Speaker 3: down swinging and figuraedly to make a fifty three man roster.
Speaker 4: Am I wrong? Ron Wolfley?
Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying you're wrong at all, Paul. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is something that's gonna happen right here, and it
Speaker 1: is training camp. This goes on in training camp. You
Speaker 1: can never ever accept it if it happens in a game.
Speaker 1: You selfish dude, How could you possibly do that? Cost
Speaker 1: us fifteen yards in a game. I'm talking about in
Speaker 1: a regular season game. In a preseason game, You're gonna
Speaker 1: get fined, you could get suspended. It's just a selfish act.
Speaker 1: But in training camp, PAULI, you're gonna see it. It's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, all right.
Speaker 3: So a little bit later, we're gonna ask Jonathan Ledbetter,
Speaker 3: Cardinals defensive lineman. Oh, by the way, running first team
Speaker 3: on the first depth chart, Jonathan Ledbetter, We'll ask him
Speaker 3: all about camp. We'll ask him how close he's been
Speaker 3: to get into a camp fight. We'll ask him about
Speaker 3: the culture shock, everything that goes into this camp under
Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon. And now you have a Cardinals team coming
Speaker 3: off a preseason win. Ron Wolfley car Over Denver eighteen seventeen.
Speaker 3: Give me a few initial likes. What did you like
Speaker 3: about that game and that w you know what pull?
Speaker 1: First of all, I would say the gap integrity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to use the word gap integrity of the
Speaker 1: words I should say, because that's exactly what it was
Speaker 1: across the board, from edge to edge. I thought it
Speaker 1: was excellent when the starters were in, When the starters
Speaker 1: were in in that first quarter, I thought they did
Speaker 1: an excellent job against what I think is going to
Speaker 1: be a team that is really going to try to
Speaker 1: run the ball and become a run first team to
Speaker 1: actually use Russell Wilson and all of his talents. They
Speaker 1: need to put him in a balanced offense. And to me,
Speaker 1: I think the Denver Broncos and p Ryan an excellent
Speaker 1: running back. I think they're going to attack the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage a lot of what the Arizona Cardinals I
Speaker 1: suspect them to do offensively, I think Sean Payton and
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos are going to do so. I loved
Speaker 1: how they competed on the line of scrimmage defensively. That
Speaker 1: was ball.
Speaker 4: I like it. I like it. You're right.
Speaker 3: Too many times, too often did we hear the words
Speaker 3: gap integrity after the Cardinals gave up more than one
Speaker 3: hundred yards rushing. You're right, because look, there're gonna be
Speaker 3: games where the opponent beats you, and they might beat
Speaker 3: you with more talent, and that's probably gonna happen at
Speaker 3: times this season. But it's very different than beating yourself.
Speaker 3: And too often it was Cardinals beating Cardinals, whether it
Speaker 3: was the lack of gap integrity, whether it was pre
Speaker 3: snap penalties which oh, by the way, we only saw
Speaker 3: one of those, We only saw four flags. Overall, it
Speaker 3: was amazingly clean and efficient in so many different ways
Speaker 3: that that debut, and to me, that's not nothing. I
Speaker 3: think it symbolizes the attention to detail. It reinforces how
Speaker 3: little things are big things in the NFL. In fact,
Speaker 3: here's Jonathan Gannon this week as to you know what,
Speaker 3: there's a lot to like, there's a lot to correct
Speaker 3: from the Denver tay, but the players are looking at it.
Speaker 6: I'm really enthused about our guys wanting to get better
Speaker 6: off of that tape, you know, the first time, different schemes,
Speaker 6: different players are going against and just trying to improve
Speaker 6: our game. Kind of like I said after the game there,
Speaker 6: the most important thing from the tape is you learn
Speaker 6: from it.
Speaker 3: And there's no doubt there are teaching moments, no question
Speaker 3: about it. But in terms of an initial debut and
Speaker 3: not knowing what to expect, even things like tackling Wolf right,
Speaker 3: I mean, how many times a preseason opener Tackling's atrocious?
Speaker 3: Even that was clean for the most part.
Speaker 1: Paul, you just cannot overstate how important it is to
Speaker 1: get this live action, this live tape when the Silks
Speaker 1: are on, to actually get it into a room, whatever
Speaker 1: position room that is, and teach off of it. Man,
Speaker 1: when you're laying a new foundation schematically and philosophically. Paul,
Speaker 1: how important do you think it is teaching off that
Speaker 1: tape when you are laying that new foundation. It is
Speaker 1: absolutely huge. And it doesn't matter who you are. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're a starter in that room, if
Speaker 1: you're the fourteen guy in that room, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: every one of you. Maybe you're the third team guy
Speaker 1: out there executing it. Maybe you got the red dot
Speaker 1: on you, maybe you don't know if you're gonna make
Speaker 1: the team or not. It doesn't matter, because coach is
Speaker 1: gonna coach off what you did, and he's gonna teach
Speaker 1: everyone else what is acceptable and what is not. He's
Speaker 1: gonna use good examples, and he's gonna use negative examples
Speaker 1: as well. But you teach and you learn big time
Speaker 1: off that first tape.
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, you won the game, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you did something that I think it
Speaker 3: just helps the buy in with a new head coach
Speaker 3: in a new scheme, a new system, a new way
Speaker 3: of going about football. You won at home, something you
Speaker 3: haven't done enough of the last couple of years. You
Speaker 3: won at the very end of the game making some
Speaker 3: smart decisions a clean game winning drive, so you know
Speaker 3: you did it with a balanced offense for the most part.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: In fact, it was it was Dennis Gardick who said
Speaker 3: after the game, you know what, we kept the game
Speaker 3: plan simple. Okay, we're not even game planning for the opponent.
Speaker 3: The real objective was to go out there and quote
Speaker 3: establish an identity. And I think the Cardinals did that
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, don't you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they did, Paully, But you know what,
Speaker 1: you just said something there really caught my attention as well.
Speaker 1: Think of that last possession. Think of that David blau
Speaker 1: at quarterback, Think of that last possession with ninety seconds
Speaker 1: to go, Paully a minute thirty, and think about being
Speaker 1: able to teach everybody off that situation right there. How
Speaker 1: critical was that? You know what? It would not surprise
Speaker 1: me if Drew Petsing would have had the entire offense
Speaker 1: sit in one meeting room to watch that ninety seconds
Speaker 1: right there, because of the opportunity of going up tempo
Speaker 1: two minute here we go, and the way David Blaw
Speaker 1: in the Cardinals offense executed that to get down the
Speaker 1: field and actually score that touchdown. Man, I gotta tell you.
Speaker 1: That is a great teaching moment right there, as is
Speaker 1: the two point conversion.
Speaker 3: We saw a couple of undrafted rookie tight ends getting
Speaker 3: involved in the preseason debut Blake Whiteheart, Joel Huntingford. Of course,
Speaker 3: those guys are fighting to make the team. At the
Speaker 3: top of the depth chart in the tight end room
Speaker 3: has been former pro bowler zach Ertz. And guess what
Speaker 3: he was cleared to practice today coming off the pup
Speaker 3: list after knee surgery. And here's starting quarterback Colt McCoy
Speaker 3: on the return of zach Ertz.
Speaker 7: It was just great to see him out of practice today, right.
Speaker 7: He got a little bit of routes on air and
Speaker 7: looks fantastic. So I think just, you know, slowly building
Speaker 7: him up and getting him back going a little bit
Speaker 7: is going to be a big boost for all of
Speaker 7: us for sure.
Speaker 3: Now, look, he's not going eleven on eleven, he's not
Speaker 3: expected to go Saturday night. But week one at Washington
Speaker 3: zach Ertz on that field, that's looking more promising by
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if I were zach Er two man,
Speaker 1: I'd want to get one rep in in the preseason, Paul,
Speaker 1: I'd want to get one, maybe two, Paul, there, I
Speaker 1: say three if I would want to get a couple
Speaker 1: of reps before the game actually begins and is real
Speaker 1: week one and you know, to me, that's just me.
Speaker 1: But zach Ertz knows his body a lot better than
Speaker 1: I do. What I love about this right here, PAULI
Speaker 1: is if in fact the Arizona Cardinals are in games,
Speaker 1: and I think they will be in games. I do
Speaker 1: because I think their offensive line is going to be
Speaker 1: better than most people gives them credit for. And because
Speaker 1: of that, I think they'll be in games. And I
Speaker 1: think we're going to see a ton a ton of
Speaker 1: twelve personnel, maybe the majority of the personnel groups will
Speaker 1: be twelve two tight ends in rundown situation first and
Speaker 1: ten second, and one to six because of zach Ertz,
Speaker 1: because he's going to be the move tight end in
Speaker 1: my opinion. Now, they're going to mix it up between
Speaker 1: eleven and twelve, There's no doubt about that. But zach
Speaker 1: Ertz is going to be out on the field a lot,
Speaker 1: and especially out of twelve personnel, I like the fact
Speaker 1: they can still run the ball more effectively than they
Speaker 1: can out of eleven.
Speaker 3: Philadelphia last year among the league leaders in twelve personnel.
Speaker 3: Cleveland Drew Petsing where he was a year ago, led
Speaker 3: the NFL in thirteen personnel.
Speaker 4: Ye, so I agree with you.
Speaker 3: It's coming a lot of tight ends, and that tight
Speaker 3: end room, just like the O line room, I think
Speaker 3: is better than many forecast. If zach Ertz, Trey McBride,
Speaker 3: Jeff Swain, and one of the camp surprises Noah Tongi
Speaker 3: I can all stay healthy, that's a pretty decent rotation.
Speaker 3: And when you factor in play action, how many times
Speaker 3: do you expect to see play action? Maybe the linebackers
Speaker 3: suck up just enough for an experienced guy like zach
Speaker 3: Ertz to find room in that coverage. Right in that
Speaker 3: scheme exactly, I can see Cole McCoy using zach Ertz
Speaker 3: as his security blanket in him getting eight to ten
Speaker 3: targets in a game.
Speaker 1: Easy doubt about it. Poly Seriously, I say amen to
Speaker 1: that right there. And I'm also really looking forward to
Speaker 1: an eleven personnel group because I don't know how much
Speaker 1: you can lean on zach Ertz. Eleven personal, one back,
Speaker 1: one tight end, three wide receivers with Jeff Swain as
Speaker 1: your tight end. That looks an awful lot like how
Speaker 1: this Cardinal offense did with Max Williams. And that's important
Speaker 1: for balance in Rundown.
Speaker 3: Hey, reminder the day Patch podcast. I mean it's up
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Speaker 3: Nick Rowllis. Just go to wherever you get your podcast,
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Speaker 3: by the way, Nick Rollis's defense is going to get
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs number ones for a half. That
Speaker 3: is according to Andy Reid, that's Patrick Mahomes and company.
Speaker 3: They're going to go the entire first half on Saturday
Speaker 3: Night before they mix in the twos and threes in
Speaker 3: the third quarter. According to Andy Reid, Jonathan Ledbetter straight ahead.
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Speaker 7: Out of the gun, poor man rush.
Speaker 3: Here comes a trail woods or blow on the move
Speaker 3: to his right, looking survey throwing.
Speaker 4: He's got a man foot corner of the.
Speaker 3: En zone, jumped inside the pylon and it's a Cardinals touchdown.
Speaker 4: David Flow go into the far side of the end
Speaker 4: zone on the money to Brian Tom go for two.
Speaker 4: Let's do it two seconds to go in the game.
Speaker 4: This is the two point conversion.
Speaker 3: Cardinals trail seventeen sixteen blow inside handoff Demerricado trying the
Speaker 3: right side.
Speaker 4: Moving the pile into the end zone.
Speaker 3: Two point conversion of Mariy deMercado muffless his way across
Speaker 3: the goal line.
Speaker 1: He has stopped three yards short and just keeps churning.
Speaker 8: That is a hempo setting, tone setting type of victory
Speaker 8: that we're witnessing.
Speaker 1: Right here and a great, great opportunity for every one
Speaker 1: in this organization to learn from.
Speaker 3: Ill tell you as far as preseason games go, run wollefully,
Speaker 3: no complaints, No complaints in the radio booth. I know
Speaker 3: you and Dave Pash when Hollywood, you guys are on
Speaker 3: in the TV booth going National and NFL Network. But
Speaker 3: hey man, in terms of drama and keeping you know,
Speaker 3: everyone engaged right to the final moments of a preseason game.
Speaker 3: Forget about the sunflower seeds and putting your hat on backwards.
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a game to go out and
Speaker 3: be one and that's what the Cardinals did.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that, Polly once again, the fact they
Speaker 1: had ninety seconds to go down the field and that's
Speaker 1: what David Blou did, and you orchestrated an excellent drive
Speaker 1: down the field. They scored the touchdown. But what I
Speaker 1: really loved is the fact that Drew Petsing, Oh, Drew Petsig,
Speaker 1: you go eleven personnel, one back, one tight end in
Speaker 1: three wide receivers on this two point conversion, and then
Speaker 1: you run the ball right between the tackles. There's something
Speaker 1: we can read in to the personality of Drew Petsing
Speaker 1: right there. And I love the fact that he said
Speaker 1: eleven personnel, which typically says at that point, here comes
Speaker 1: a pass, here it comes No, they ran the ball
Speaker 1: and they got that thing in with a little help
Speaker 1: from his friends.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know what it makes me wonder? Well
Speaker 4: two things.
Speaker 3: Number One didn't take long for the Cardinals offense to
Speaker 3: live up to that classic JG quote cram the ball vertical,
Speaker 3: because they did it for a game winning two point conversion.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: He then used two more words this week that I
Speaker 3: also wrote down. Wolf right next to cram the ball
Speaker 3: vertical was the one who used this week create displacement
Speaker 3: when talking about the old lineing he wants to see
Speaker 3: create displacement. I love that one too. That's going down
Speaker 3: on the JG sheet. But then in addition to that,
Speaker 3: it was just it was that identity that Gardex spoke
Speaker 3: of to go out and actually come up with a
Speaker 3: game winner. I just think it's so important. And then
Speaker 3: you come out and guess what you get into a
Speaker 3: game week? And that's what Jonathan Gannon has done with
Speaker 3: Kansas City on the schedule. Taking the Cardinals outside in
Speaker 3: the heat. I'm here to tell you it is warm
Speaker 3: out there, even a media pencil necks standing on the
Speaker 3: sideline in the shade. I'm getting dehydrated, muscler much less
Speaker 3: of these players. So Cole McCoy this week was talking
Speaker 3: about how the new head coach was just shaping this
Speaker 3: week leading up to Saturday night and the Chiefs.
Speaker 7: I think what's coach s Gannon has done this week
Speaker 7: with us is really treat this like a game week,
Speaker 7: not necessarily from scouting the Chiefs or putting a game
Speaker 7: plan together for them, but more importantly, what's your process?
Speaker 7: You know, what days are you watching? What tapes? Third downs,
Speaker 7: red zone? Like, get into your routine and what it's
Speaker 7: going to be like, get with your coaches to understand, hey,
Speaker 7: I want to have these looks by this time of
Speaker 7: day on you know, on Wednesday or whatever.
Speaker 3: Everything's new. You have new coordinators, you have a new
Speaker 3: head coach, there's a new way of doing things. So okay,
Speaker 3: you try and settle in, and you know it is Wolf, right.
Speaker 3: Guys are creatures of habit, and they want to know
Speaker 3: what the expectations are come week one, going into Washington,
Speaker 3: and so, okay, you're setting the vibe now because next
Speaker 3: week you're going to joint practices and the week after
Speaker 3: that is Labor Day and you're making final roster cuts.
Speaker 3: So this is the week that resembles the regular season.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that, Paul, it really is. And
Speaker 1: also remember this too, the fact that they've gone to
Speaker 1: three preseason games. I think eventually this is just me Paul.
Speaker 1: They're going to two preseason games at some point in time.
Speaker 1: But the fact that they're at three preseason games right now,
Speaker 1: that really puts a ton of emphasis on the second
Speaker 1: preseason game. It used to be the third preseason game,
Speaker 1: isn't that right, Dennis Green. Everybody knows about the third
Speaker 1: preseason game. That's when coaches typically would run their starters
Speaker 1: out into the field. And Andy Reid was actually talking
Speaker 1: about that very thing this week, and the fact that
Speaker 1: he might actually have his Kansas City Chiefs go out
Speaker 1: and actually play a half. Now, not all of them,
Speaker 1: of course, Patrick Mahomes. I would doubt Patrick Mahomes is
Speaker 1: going to play a half. But the second preseason game
Speaker 1: is now taking on this new import because you only
Speaker 1: play three. And it doesn't surprise me that JG is
Speaker 1: trying to turn this into Okay, this is a little
Speaker 1: dry run of what our regular season schedule is going
Speaker 1: to be like.
Speaker 4: And you're right.
Speaker 3: Andy Reid did tell the media today that his Ones
Speaker 3: will go for the first half, but as the media
Speaker 3: also cites in Kansas City, Andy Reid is notorious for
Speaker 3: overpromising and under delivering in regards to preseason playing time.
Speaker 3: For example, last week, he said the Ones will get
Speaker 3: the entire first quarter, and he pulled most of them
Speaker 3: after the first drive.
Speaker 4: So we'll see.
Speaker 1: Did they score on that first drive, Polly, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 4: I don't think they did.
Speaker 3: I think they went the length of the field, and
Speaker 3: then I'm not sure they got into the end zone.
Speaker 1: Well, it really doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: He pulled yeah, yeah, Derek Carr and the Saints, who
Speaker 3: are much more intent. I'm putting on a show and
Speaker 3: that preseason opener. But look, doesn't matter if you're if
Speaker 3: you're any number of Cardinals players, you're getting the World champions,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna get him for a half at least
Speaker 3: the ones. And they didn't show very well against New Orleans,
Speaker 3: so you figure they're gonna be intent and at least
Speaker 3: bringing some intensity on Saturday Night, which means, okay, the
Speaker 3: offensive line going against that Kansas City front. And you
Speaker 3: know what DJ Humphreys will see if he goes, because
Speaker 3: I think there was a lot to be noticed by
Speaker 3: the guys who did not play right by design. Whether
Speaker 3: you're Buddha Baker, James Connor, Kaizer, White, DJ Humphries, these
Speaker 3: are a few of the made men on this roster
Speaker 3: that did not go.
Speaker 4: We'll see if d J.
Speaker 3: Humphries does go on Saturday Night. He was talking to
Speaker 3: the media this week, well and check this out. He
Speaker 3: was asked about the toughest, meanest offensive linemen in the group.
Speaker 4: Don't let the smile fool you, man, It's definitely mean.
Speaker 8: Now Will probably probably will Will or big more like
Speaker 8: I said, Pass definitely has a little little a hole
Speaker 8: in'll you know what I mean, He'll take you to
Speaker 8: the ground and like lay on you a little bit.
Speaker 8: So that's got love seeing that from him. And that's
Speaker 8: his nature too. It's not that we have to jazz
Speaker 8: him up to do that. That's like who he is.
Speaker 8: We have to let the one one phrase I used
Speaker 8: to love from Ba all the times that we'd rather
Speaker 8: say wold than sick them, and like that's that's Paris
Speaker 8: m modo.
Speaker 4: Both of those guys are a wold guy.
Speaker 3: That's one of the best things I heard all week. Now,
Speaker 3: Will Hernandez, we know he's got a mean streak. Marquise Hayes,
Speaker 3: the backup guard out of Oklahoma who was good for
Speaker 3: starting to fight every other day of training camp last year,
Speaker 3: we know that. In fact, West Jonathan led better. Next
Speaker 3: about Mark, he says, we'll get into that a little bit.
Speaker 3: But when when they when you wear DJ say that
Speaker 3: the number six pick overall, Paris Johnson Junior has that
Speaker 3: sort of attitude and willingness to finish a guy off
Speaker 3: snap after snap. I mean that's got to bode pretty well, right, No.
Speaker 1: That does, Paulie, there's no doubt about that. But I
Speaker 1: just want to quickly. I have to rank get I
Speaker 1: have to get my own rank right here. Okay, Hump
Speaker 1: is at this point of his career. He still a dog,
Speaker 1: full on dog, big time, but he's got so much
Speaker 1: talent and he can use that talent, right Will Hernandez
Speaker 1: no offense against Will, but he doesn't have the feat
Speaker 1: that DJ Humphreys has and because of that, so much
Speaker 1: of the time, Will's got to get into a fistfight,
Speaker 1: and he does. He does. Remember this, Pali, Will Hernandez
Speaker 1: fought JJ Watt JJ Watts last year in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Never forget that, Paul, the fact that he actually went
Speaker 1: to blows with him. Right there, that's Will Hernandez and
Speaker 1: that's who he is. So I agree with Hump and
Speaker 1: what he said. Hump of course a closed second Moe
Speaker 1: definitely a guy that will throw it. But Paris Johnson Junior,
Speaker 1: to hear him his name actually invoked by DJ Humphries,
Speaker 1: that makes me feel really really good because I respect
Speaker 1: DJ so much.
Speaker 3: Saying on our podcast Cardinals Underground, d J Humphries and
Speaker 3: Paris Johnson Junior are very similar in that regard, very intelligent,
Speaker 3: very outgoing, gregarious personalities, great smiles, but on game day,
Speaker 3: totally different, dude, totally different. And that's what Paris Johnson
Speaker 3: Junior is known for at Ohio State. In fact, he
Speaker 3: told us about it on an episode of The Big
Speaker 3: Red Rage in the off season that it's about a
Speaker 3: twenty four hour process, a transformation where he becomes a
Speaker 3: savage by kickoff, and it was it was really fascinating
Speaker 3: to hear him go through that because even his mom
Speaker 3: cited that on draft night said, he's a gentle giant
Speaker 3: until you kick the ball off.
Speaker 1: Paul, I know that. I know that kind of transformation.
Speaker 1: Paul I do. I'm not trying to say look at me,
Speaker 1: but man, I guarantee you for four hours before a game.
Speaker 1: And it was it actually started much much sooner than that.
Speaker 1: But those last four hours I was in the locker room,
Speaker 1: in the locker room getting ready the ball out. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, I know what that transformation is so real quick.
Speaker 3: The one offensive lineman who actually went viral after the
Speaker 3: first preseason game was yelled a fro hol at the
Speaker 3: starting center. Yes he bodies lam Zach Allen and then
Speaker 3: got out against a corner and flatten hum on a screen.
Speaker 3: Would you make of the center, because obviously that was
Speaker 3: a big question mark in the offseason.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I loved his physicality. I love the way he
Speaker 1: moved as well, Pauly, didn't you. I mean he was
Speaker 1: moving around right there. I was really impressed with that.
Speaker 1: But most importantly, it's the fact he knows this offense
Speaker 1: so well, and that is going to expedite the process
Speaker 1: of every other offensive lineman and that offensive line getting better.
Speaker 4: It's a great point.
Speaker 3: Only four career starts at center, but he's had a
Speaker 3: lot of starts at guard, so he knows offensive line
Speaker 3: play and he knows the offense. To your point, Yes,
Speaker 3: and then combined with a fourteen years experience of Cole McCoy,
Speaker 3: you got to figure they're going to be able to
Speaker 3: diagnose any front that they're going to throw at the
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Speaker 4: In Gilbert.
Speaker 3: Second and seven play action, ripman steps up, hit and sacked.
Speaker 4: It's Ledbetter that gets him at the thirty yard line.
Speaker 4: A loss of seven.
Speaker 9: Great leader, great teammate, great locker room guy. In the
Speaker 9: run game, he's excellent technician, plays really well with his hands.
Speaker 9: He's strong at the point of attack.
Speaker 4: If he gets a.
Speaker 9: Double team, he can incher it down. He's not getting moved.
Speaker 9: If he gets a single block, he can play primary
Speaker 9: a secondary gap, and he's pushing the pocket in the
Speaker 9: pass games.
Speaker 3: Defensive coordinator Nick Rowlis with some props and praise for
Speaker 3: our special guest tonight on the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 3: by Santan Fordying Gilbert. You heard the highlight there from
Speaker 3: the game at Denver late last season. Let's see here,
Speaker 3: six tackles, tackle for loss, quarterback hit, first career full
Speaker 3: sack for Jonathan Ledbetter is our guest tonight, and he
Speaker 3: most definitely just finished a practice.
Speaker 1: That one.
Speaker 3: Let me give you props and praise because there's a
Speaker 3: media pencil next standing standing in the shade. I could
Speaker 3: barely take the heat. What's it like practicing out there
Speaker 3: in the Arizona Triple Digits.
Speaker 5: Man, it's definitely definitely hot out there. We're just getting
Speaker 5: back in the grind and kind of used to things
Speaker 5: being in the heat. You know, whole training camp. We
Speaker 5: were kind of in our stadium inside in the air conditioning,
Speaker 5: so it definitely feels a little bit different. But like
Speaker 5: I said, you gotta go out there, You got to grind.
Speaker 5: You just got to kind of feel those elements and
Speaker 5: it pushes you to be a better player. So you
Speaker 5: just got to embrace it.
Speaker 3: Hey, whatever the joint practices at Minnesota throw at you
Speaker 3: next week, easy, right, whatever Washington is all about. Week one,
Speaker 3: nothing compared to what you guys got this week.
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think it was like one to ten by
Speaker 4: like nine o'clock.
Speaker 3: So are you one of those guys who loses a
Speaker 3: lot of weight from the beginning to the end of practice.
Speaker 4: I am, So I've been having to eat. Man.
Speaker 5: We weighed in today and I actually, man, I cooked
Speaker 5: last night, so I was like, I didn't want to
Speaker 5: eat too late, but I was like, man, I've probably
Speaker 5: lost like six pounds, so I was underweight actually, so
Speaker 5: it was okay, But I lose a bunch of weight
Speaker 5: just through sweat, just kind of fluctuated.
Speaker 4: I've always been like that since college.
Speaker 3: All right, So we're gonna save this cooking debate until later.
Speaker 3: But since you brought it up, your teammate in the.
Speaker 4: D line room.
Speaker 8: L J.
Speaker 3: Collier took exception with apparently something you told media member
Speaker 3: Camcox twelve News about your abilities in the kitchen.
Speaker 4: Here's l J. Collier, Jonathan Ledbetter. Haven't cooked anything we
Speaker 4: go out to eat.
Speaker 5: If anything, I feel like if anybody is the best
Speaker 5: cooking the D line room, it's me.
Speaker 4: I make one hell of a steak. Shout out to
Speaker 4: trager Man. Okay, so he's flexing his ability to grill
Speaker 4: a steak. Yeah, the only steak he grew is still
Speaker 4: in his freezer. So he told us. He told us
Speaker 4: he was gonnavite everybody over to come to the pool
Speaker 4: and he was like, I'm buying steak.
Speaker 5: So I'm buying chicken wings and we just didn't make it.
Speaker 5: So I think it's still in his freezer or it's
Speaker 5: in the trash. Well, that's what camp's all about. You
Speaker 5: got to prove it right exactly every day. Yeah, what's
Speaker 5: it been like in that D line room? Let me
Speaker 5: ask you this, how have you guys been treating Dante
Speaker 5: still's the sixth round rookie? Because some of the stories
Speaker 5: I'm hearing not at the old line room, I mean
Speaker 5: the demands.
Speaker 3: The you know of pairs Johnson Junior and John Gaines,
Speaker 3: guys like Kelvin Beacham making him cut the sandwiches into triangles.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like unnecessarily harsh. I mean, how do
Speaker 3: you guys treating Dante Steels these days?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: We got two rooks right now. So we got Dante
Speaker 5: Stiles and Jacob slid Man, and they've been great. Man,
Speaker 5: they haven't had to do too much. We're kind of
Speaker 5: a laid back group. You know, I think the oldest
Speaker 5: guy in the room, I'm not even the oldest guy
Speaker 5: in year five, but I think the oldest guy is Carlos,
Speaker 5: so you know, he's only in year six or seven. So,
Speaker 5: you know, we keep it cool, man. We don't make
Speaker 5: them do too much. We did a sprite challenge, like
Speaker 5: they had to drink a whole sprite without like you know,
Speaker 5: burping or breathing in our meeting room. So that was
Speaker 5: a little joke we did. And then they just did
Speaker 5: their little rookie skit. So they went up and sang
Speaker 5: and and Dante did pretty good. Jacob tried to sing
Speaker 5: something from SpongeBob and everybody was not having it, so
Speaker 5: he got booed pretty quickly.
Speaker 3: Did anybody steal the rookie the Rookie Town Show? Who
Speaker 3: is the best dude?
Speaker 5: I would say Dante and John John. John was really good.
Speaker 5: He actually was singing his heart out up there.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was singing. He was he got he's got
Speaker 4: a voice.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, it's interesting. DJ Humphreys was asked
Speaker 3: early in camp about the culture shift that Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 3: has brought as the head coach, and DJ cut off
Speaker 3: the interviewer and you know what, it's really been more
Speaker 3: like a culture shot shock.
Speaker 4: How would you describe man? I love him.
Speaker 5: I love I love his energy, just how he approaches
Speaker 5: practice and approaches situations and just everything in the game.
Speaker 5: Like it's clear and concise, so you know what you're doing,
Speaker 5: but not only that, you know why you're doing it.
Speaker 5: And I think that's the most important thing for you know,
Speaker 5: athletes and football players, especially in the professional roun you
Speaker 5: kind of get a better understanding of the game. You know,
Speaker 5: everybody's good, everybody's fast, everybody's strong, but it's that edge,
Speaker 5: that you know, mental edge that gives you the you know,
Speaker 5: up one on your opponents. And he emphasizes that as
Speaker 5: he coaches and as he teaches, and and he's literally
Speaker 5: like one of the guys, so like, it's so cool.
Speaker 5: You go out there, you'd be like, bro, like, what
Speaker 5: are you seeing here? He's like, no, Bro, what are
Speaker 5: you seeing here? And then we talk and you know,
Speaker 5: you just kind of move forward from that, and you know,
Speaker 5: not all coaches are like that, So it's definitely. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm grateful to have them here, and I know all
Speaker 5: the guys are as well, and we're excited to get
Speaker 5: things rolling.
Speaker 4: Man, it's it's been great.
Speaker 3: Look, this Cardinals team a year ago led the NFL
Speaker 3: in pre snap penalties. Little things are big things in
Speaker 3: a league where more than half the games are decided
Speaker 3: by a single touchdown or less, so those little things
Speaker 3: can add up over the course of a game. There's
Speaker 3: no doubt Jonathan ledbetter as our guest defensive line in
Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals. Have you been held accountable by JG?
Speaker 1: Yet?
Speaker 3: Seems like everyone has a story where JG called him
Speaker 3: out and either corrected them or put them on the spot.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: I think two years ago I actually had to play
Speaker 5: in the game, or actually last year I had to
Speaker 5: play in a game where I was aligned off sides
Speaker 5: and for now, for us, that's a non negotiable. So
Speaker 5: you know that's literally like that does not happen. You know,
Speaker 5: that's a pre snap thing that you can control. We're
Speaker 5: always emphasized and control of the controllables, and you know,
Speaker 5: do what you can to prevent, you know, things from
Speaker 5: happening bad to the team, and like you can't align
Speaker 5: off sides, no illegal formations, no illegal shifts, just things
Speaker 5: like that, you know, just to make you better as
Speaker 5: a player, just so you're smart, you know, you got
Speaker 5: to be aware.
Speaker 3: So the first official depth chart came out last week
Speaker 3: and you're running first team.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, how big? How big a deal is that?
Speaker 5: Man? Well, if anybody that knows me, you know, I'm
Speaker 5: a journeyman and you know, so I've been up and
Speaker 5: down in the league. You know, I was undrafted, and
Speaker 5: it's just a blessing. You know that my hart work
Speaker 5: is finally you know, being able to give some being
Speaker 5: given some credit. And you know, I'm just blessed. And
Speaker 5: I know I got to go out there every day
Speaker 5: and continue to earn that starting spot. And you know,
Speaker 5: I'm grateful for my coaching staff that they believe in me.
Speaker 5: It just makes me want to go out there and
Speaker 5: play that much harder for them and the guys.
Speaker 3: Jonathan led better. I guess you were a team captain
Speaker 3: at Georgia your senior year, right, I mean, yes, you
Speaker 3: were second team All SEC. We saw the game you
Speaker 3: put together at Denver. We heard the highlight, we saw
Speaker 3: the box score. How much upside do you think you
Speaker 3: still have in this league?
Speaker 5: I think I'm just getting started, you know. I've been
Speaker 5: kind of grinding my way to get where I am now,
Speaker 5: to just get on the field.
Speaker 4: You know, I got to.
Speaker 5: Arizona, I ended up playing one game under Cliff in
Speaker 5: my first year, and then I was on kind of
Speaker 5: practice squad the rest of the year. And the last
Speaker 5: year I kind of was able to put some stuff
Speaker 5: on tape and you know, string some good games together
Speaker 5: and continue to, you know, do whatever the team needed
Speaker 5: to be me to be as a role player. And
Speaker 5: I still believe I am the role player. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm always going to be that. Whatever the team needs,
Speaker 5: whatever my guys need for me, I'm going to be
Speaker 5: there and do it for them.
Speaker 3: You know, because you know what everyone said about this
Speaker 3: defensive line room all off season, The narrative was something
Speaker 3: like this For media pencil necks like me. There were
Speaker 3: thirty six sacks by the Cardinals defense. Exactly half of
Speaker 3: them walked out the door. In JJ Watt and Zach Allen.
Speaker 3: There's a lot for that d line room to prove,
Speaker 3: isn't there? And what do you do I mean, as
Speaker 3: a group, where do you think this this team is
Speaker 3: headed on along that defensive front, because we know how
Speaker 3: demoralizing it is. If you can't get to the quarterback,
Speaker 3: if you can't stop the run, it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: long night.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely. You know, we've been working hard.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: Like I said, everybody in our room has a chip
Speaker 5: on their shoulder. You know, everyone has a story, everyone's
Speaker 5: you know, had a background. And I think those are
Speaker 5: the teams that end up actually surprising people, you know.
Speaker 5: And I don't really care what people thing. I don't
Speaker 5: really care about the media. I believe in myself. I
Speaker 5: believe in my guys, and I believe in this organization.
Speaker 5: And we work hard every day. We go out there
Speaker 5: to push ourselves, you know, and our coach puts us
Speaker 5: in the best possible position to win.
Speaker 4: And you know, at the end of the day. You
Speaker 4: got to go out there and do just that. You
Speaker 4: gotta win.
Speaker 5: So we're gonna we're gonna do what we need to
Speaker 5: do as a team and continue to elevate. And you know,
Speaker 5: we did lose Ac, that was my guy. We lost
Speaker 5: JJ two and you know they're two great players, you know.
Speaker 5: But we got a great room, and like I said,
Speaker 5: I believe in every single person in there, and I
Speaker 5: know that we're gonna get the job done.
Speaker 4: Sounds like you're close with LJ.
Speaker 1: Collair.
Speaker 5: I'm close with all the guys, so we're all close, man.
Speaker 5: But yeah, there's my due. We actually played in the
Speaker 5: senior ball together when we came.
Speaker 3: I get it, Okay, okay, I mean it sounds like
Speaker 3: he's got something to prove as a former first round pick.
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, And man, we're working together so that everybody
Speaker 5: can prove it. Man, everybody can eat. You know, there's
Speaker 5: enough food at the table for everybody to have their
Speaker 5: full What do you think of Nick Rowlis so far?
Speaker 5: Talking to some of the coaches, they're like, you know
Speaker 5: what one more than Nick Rowl's your defensive coordinator, assassin, Like, wow,
Speaker 5: he's aggressive, isn't it he is?
Speaker 4: He is man. I love playing like that. Man.
Speaker 5: It gives you chances, it gives you opportunities, and it's
Speaker 5: not so much as you know, a defense that's just
Speaker 5: clear cut, like he's like, hey, like what do you see?
Speaker 5: What do you feel? Let's do this so you can
Speaker 5: do this. Let's free you up right here, you know,
Speaker 5: just just any opportunity to allow you to go play
Speaker 5: football how you play it. He's trying to give you that.
Speaker 5: And like I said, the understanding of the game itself
Speaker 5: is what they teach, not only scheme. So it's just
Speaker 5: like a breath of fresh air because you're kind of
Speaker 5: getting it on two ends and you're like, okay, well
Speaker 5: I understand this, so now I can go do this
Speaker 5: within the scheme. And that's really cool because you know,
Speaker 5: some places, you know, it's just like hey, go straight
Speaker 5: do this, you know, and that's it.
Speaker 4: You know, just do your job.
Speaker 5: But here, it's like we got a really smart room,
Speaker 5: so we're able to put more stuff on our guys
Speaker 5: on the D line and our outside linebackers too, you know,
Speaker 5: be able to draw things up and dial things up
Speaker 5: to make it fun and be aggressive and attack.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jonathan, that defensive line was disruptive in the
Speaker 3: preseason opener. You guys were in the backfield quite a bit.
Speaker 3: You guys were hitting, harassing Russell Wilson. Now you get
Speaker 3: Kansas City, Andy Reid says, the starter is gonna play
Speaker 3: most of the first half. They're known for having one
Speaker 3: of the better interior old lines in the NFL.
Speaker 4: You like that, You like that when you get to
Speaker 4: go against the starters.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I was actually mad that we didn't get to play.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm always, like I said, I've been the
Speaker 5: underdog guy. So you know, preseason for me is like
Speaker 5: you're playing all preseason. So it's just different this year.
Speaker 5: You know, I only played a couple of snaps in
Speaker 5: the beginning, and like, once I got started, I was like, man, coach,
Speaker 5: I want some more, you know, And like all the
Speaker 5: guys are like that. Man, everybody's hungry. Like I said,
Speaker 5: it's that chip on their shoulders. So you know, even
Speaker 5: this preseason game, I'm treating like a real game.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: I'm going out there and I'm putting stuff on tape
Speaker 5: that I know that i need to work on and
Speaker 5: to prepare myself to be ready for the season.
Speaker 4: And everybody on this team and on the squad is
Speaker 4: doing just that.
Speaker 3: How close have you been to get into a fight
Speaker 3: in camp? Come on, now there's been O line D
Speaker 3: line guys hot, they're getting shippy.
Speaker 5: I'm usually the guy like last year, like I'm the reason,
Speaker 5: like we had a whole team fight, like in the indoor,
Speaker 5: like the O line D line, Like I was probably
Speaker 5: the reason that erupted. This year, I've been trying to
Speaker 5: be a better leader for the guys, So I say
Speaker 5: I've been the guy like breaking up the fight, trying
Speaker 5: to go out there and everybody down to be the mediator,
Speaker 5: because I know once I go, I'm going like somebody's
Speaker 5: got to get me. So I'm just trying to make
Speaker 5: sure everybody's cool. And you know, we're all family. So
Speaker 5: even in stuff that happens out there, man, we we
Speaker 5: squash it.
Speaker 4: We come back.
Speaker 5: We know football is a chippy game and we love
Speaker 5: each other man. Like it's just it's always done and
Speaker 5: always left on the field before we come back.
Speaker 7: In the locker room.
Speaker 4: Okay, what can you tell us about last year? What happened?
Speaker 3: Were you trying it was a by design? We're trying
Speaker 3: to make a statement. You're trying to get noticed by
Speaker 3: the coaches or you're.
Speaker 5: Actually doing one on ones. And I think I was
Speaker 5: going against MO and the first rep I won, and
Speaker 5: you know, like you just get a little chippy in there, man,
Speaker 5: and you know you trash talking talking smack, and you
Speaker 5: know what, He's like, Oh, let's run it back. And
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, you're a rook man. You don't get
Speaker 5: to run it back, you know what, an older guy.
Speaker 5: So you know, we run it back. And he actually
Speaker 5: had a good rep.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 5: He actually stopped me kind of like when I was
Speaker 5: trying to throw my swipe and the rep was over
Speaker 5: and they blew the whistle. But he tried to keep
Speaker 5: driving and keep going and try to take me to
Speaker 5: the ground.
Speaker 4: And I got up.
Speaker 5: Man, I just start swinging cause I'm just like, yo, man,
Speaker 5: like we don't go to the ground. Like what's was blown,
Speaker 5: it's over, plays dead. And as soon as I got
Speaker 5: up and swung on him, I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 5: saw JJ he just came out of nowhere and literally
Speaker 5: speared him and then everything erupted. They cut the clip,
Speaker 5: they cut everything, and everything erupted.
Speaker 4: We canceled. Practice was over. Practice was over.
Speaker 3: You probably got you probably got thanks in the locker room,
Speaker 3: and I gotta chewed out too, who was one of
Speaker 3: the other the players. It was great for the coaches,
Speaker 3: not so much. I'm actually shocked Marquise Hayes has not
Speaker 3: started a fight yet in this camp. I'm actually shocked
Speaker 3: by that because.
Speaker 5: Man, he's he's been working on his discipline and he's
Speaker 5: been working on getting better.
Speaker 4: I love that kid.
Speaker 5: He's he's he's he's big, he's strong, and when he
Speaker 5: puts everything together, it looks good.
Speaker 4: Hey, we look forward to what preseason game number two.
Speaker 4: We look forward to the joint practices next week in Minnesota.
Speaker 4: Be nothing like Arizona. I mean, you gotta be totally easy. Jonathan,
Speaker 4: thank you for the time. I appreciate you guys, thanks
Speaker 4: for having me. There we go.
Speaker 3: Jonathan led Better on the big red rage presented by
Speaker 3: santan forward in Gilbert Fack. Right after this, Jared stood
Speaker 3: him in the gon to the year after a play
Speaker 3: action fig on the move throws and it's broken up
Speaker 3: nearly picked off by key Trell Clark.
Speaker 4: And you want to evaluate guys. You want to be
Speaker 4: able to see what they can do. Can they play
Speaker 4: his own?
Speaker 1: Can they play man Key Tell Clark is the guy
Speaker 1: that they are very high on.
Speaker 4: Key Trail Clark is looking very comfortable out there in
Speaker 4: this circumstance. I love what I'm seeing from.
Speaker 1: Him right now.
Speaker 10: I really say that it's a it's a good energy
Speaker 10: going around the room. At the end of the day,
Speaker 10: we all know that we're competing to play on the
Speaker 10: field and only two corners can be out there at
Speaker 10: the same time. But there's no hate or anything. We
Speaker 10: all want to make each other better and we're just
Speaker 10: gonna continue to just strive to be our best sales
Speaker 10: every day. And you know, when the game day comes,
Speaker 10: we'll know who'll be out.
Speaker 3: There six round rookie Key Trell Clark, who sons like
Speaker 3: anything but a rookie. I mean, you talk about precocious.
Speaker 3: That was part of the postgame interview with Drew stan
Speaker 3: youers truly ron Mopefully. Here we are on the Big
Speaker 3: Red Rage presented by sand tan Ford in Gilbert Special
Speaker 3: thanks to Jonathan Ledbetter. That was some good stuff about
Speaker 3: play by play of him starting that fight with Marquise
Speaker 3: Hayes a year ago. Right, so he's been on his
Speaker 3: p's and q's this time around, but the fight at
Speaker 3: cornerback Wolf and to hear Keith Trell Clark later in
Speaker 3: that interview, he took us through a play by play
Speaker 3: of what he saw leading up to the pass breakup,
Speaker 3: and Drew Stan looked at me and like, raise both eyebrows.
Speaker 3: He's like, that is next level analysis for a rookie corner.
Speaker 3: So if he's thinking the game already at that level,
Speaker 3: no wonder he's making run at a starting corner spot
Speaker 3: just considering. Guess what, everything is wide open at that
Speaker 3: position group, Yeah.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it, Paully. It's a great position room
Speaker 1: to actually get the opportunity to go play that dB room,
Speaker 1: that corner back room right there, and he is getting
Speaker 1: that opportunity. I love what I'm seeing from him. He's
Speaker 1: got some swag to him, Polly, which I really like.
Speaker 1: He's very, very confident, and that's great. But can I
Speaker 1: just say right now, that's where rookie corners are gonna
Speaker 1: be coming into the LEA because you can't play cornerback
Speaker 1: and try to play cornerback in the NFL unless you've
Speaker 1: got an awful lot of confidence. What happens, and this
Speaker 1: is just me, what happens when suddenly you go out
Speaker 1: and Pat Mahomes lights you up. You know, how do
Speaker 1: you respond? Then after that? That really is going to
Speaker 1: be the key for key Trout Clark.
Speaker 3: We saw Anteonio Hamilton come in the second half now
Speaker 3: but the ultra veteran and he immediately has a pick,
Speaker 3: almost had a second. Yes, he ended up with that
Speaker 3: pass interference penalty call against him, but there was nearly
Speaker 3: a sack on that play that would have saved him.
Speaker 3: Then there's Christian Matthew, the second year, seventh rounder. I
Speaker 3: mean his size and his ability to really stay close
Speaker 3: with the receivers in camp. You saw it again in
Speaker 3: the game. So Nick rollis the defensive coordinator, met the
Speaker 3: media today and he was asked about how that cornerback
Speaker 3: competition is shaping up.
Speaker 9: Great competition, guys that are locked in and improving every day.
Speaker 9: I'm seeing a lot of growth. I'm seeing the competition
Speaker 9: get really tight, but also a room that is together,
Speaker 9: and those guys, when I see each other, get better
Speaker 9: and are pushing each other. And I'm happy with the progress.
Speaker 9: We got a lot more progress to make, but I'm
Speaker 9: excited over the next However, many weeks I camp we
Speaker 9: have left to see who really steps in and takes
Speaker 9: certain roles.
Speaker 3: There were two media finds earlier this week. There's the
Speaker 3: third because that's actually from the Dave Pash podcast. Right there,
Speaker 3: Nick rowllis visiting with Dave some great stuff. Would you
Speaker 3: make the defense in the debut? And what do you
Speaker 3: think about some of those position battles and where they
Speaker 3: stand right now?
Speaker 7: Wolf?
Speaker 3: Where's your eye going to go on Saturday night against
Speaker 3: Casey Well Paully.
Speaker 1: You know, first of all, I thought, once again the
Speaker 1: defense superseded every expectation I had. I thought they played
Speaker 1: really really well, especially the starters. Of course in that
Speaker 1: first quarter that really blew my mind. Cornerback at the
Speaker 1: cornerback room is definitely that's very very competitive. I like
Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton coming out as the starter week one. I
Speaker 1: like that he did make some plays as well. We'll
Speaker 1: see how it goes. That's not a slam on anybody else.
Speaker 1: I think Key Trell Clark is gonna be your nickel
Speaker 1: corner of course, opposite of Marco. Let me just say this,
Speaker 1: what will I be watching? First of all, Paul, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be watching the offense in regard to running the
Speaker 1: tackle zone, running the stretch play running the outside play
Speaker 1: better than what they did, especially the starters running that
Speaker 1: play better. That is the integral play to this offense.
Speaker 1: When you take a quarterback and you stick them under center,
Speaker 1: especially in rundown situation. You're saying, we've got five plays
Speaker 1: and I'm simplifying it for effect, but we got five
Speaker 1: plays we're gonna run. The problem is we could run
Speaker 1: the ball or we could throw the ball in. You
Speaker 1: on the second level and third level don't know what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. If we execute correctly, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to guess and see that's the problem. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: So for me, it all starts with being able to
Speaker 1: run that play. Execute that play where you can rip
Speaker 1: that ball for four five on a regular basis, running
Speaker 1: that tackle zone play. That's what I'm looking for. Number one.
Speaker 1: Number two, more play action, Polly. I want to see
Speaker 1: more play action off of that action, that tackle zone
Speaker 1: stretch play action, whether it's a boot, a waggle, or
Speaker 1: a straight seven step drop in the pocket. I want
Speaker 1: to see more play action. And then finally, Polly, I
Speaker 1: want to see some gap integrity, just like what we
Speaker 1: saw on the defensive line. You and I have had
Speaker 1: this conversation many many times. That is my concern. I
Speaker 1: think it's your concern as well, being able to actually
Speaker 1: stop the run. What I saw them do in that
Speaker 1: first quarter the starters against the Denver Broncos was very encouraging.
Speaker 1: I'd love to see them follow it up with the
Speaker 1: same type of gap integrity attacking that that line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage with their front six or seven.
Speaker 3: No, that's great stuff. You know what, I'll name some
Speaker 3: names going back to offense where you started. Michael Wilson,
Speaker 3: he only played a couple of series. Love to see
Speaker 3: more out of him against Kansas City. I'd love to
Speaker 3: see Trey McBride, who's been back of practice this week.
Speaker 3: Exactly what do they have in mind for Trey McBride,
Speaker 3: because I think he's gonna be on the move a
Speaker 3: lot as an HVAC slash tight end. And then when
Speaker 3: you get over to the defense, I'd love to see
Speaker 3: my j Sanders and even more bj Ojalai All. We'd
Speaker 3: love to see those two guys out there because I'm
Speaker 3: with you. Zamon Collins, Dennis Gardek, Cam Thomas had a sack.
Speaker 3: They all exceeded expectations. I thought they all looked regular
Speaker 3: season ready, there's no question about that. So I'd love
Speaker 3: to see some of those other edge guys because we've
Speaker 3: even seen Jesse Luketta and Victor d Mukage run with
Speaker 3: the ones at times. So what are they doing at
Speaker 3: that outside linebacker spot? It seems much more deep in
Speaker 3: terms of that depth in that room than we ever envision.
Speaker 3: There's that, and then of course, okay, what are you
Speaker 3: gonna do with inside linebacker behind KUYSI?
Speaker 4: You're white.
Speaker 3: I think that's a hotly congested competition too.
Speaker 1: You know, it's so fascinating, Bully. You play by play
Speaker 1: guys are all about the players. Yes, And here I
Speaker 1: am as a color analyst, of course, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: maybe Drew would probably agree with me. Here. You know
Speaker 1: what we're all about the play, you know, figure about
Speaker 1: the player. It's the play. This is a brand new scheme, Pully.
Speaker 1: This is this is a brand new coaching staff. We're
Speaker 1: trying to late this brand new foundation. What do we
Speaker 1: what are we running here? What kind of personnel groups
Speaker 1: and what kind of plays are we actually running? The scheme?
Speaker 1: The scheme, the scheme, I'm fascinated with it. And you
Speaker 1: play by play guys are all the same.
Speaker 4: No, you're right.
Speaker 3: I was like, who's on the field for the first play?
Speaker 3: And Drew stan was like, no, what is the first play?
Speaker 3: But you know the one, the one that we agreed
Speaker 3: on was Clayton Tune, who yes, who guess what looked
Speaker 3: like a rookie early?
Speaker 4: But you know what, so did Oh? I don't know.
Speaker 3: They're number one or number two pick in the draft, right?
Speaker 3: Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud both struggled big time in
Speaker 3: their preseason debut.
Speaker 4: So, yes, rookie.
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, they have this initiation period. But what did you
Speaker 3: see out of Clayton Tune as the game went on?
Speaker 3: And what more do you want to see out of
Speaker 3: the rookie quarterback Saturday night?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just want to see a little bit more accuracy.
Speaker 1: I thought he did an excellent job with his poise.
Speaker 1: Can I just tell you my general overall feel of
Speaker 1: Clayton tomb PAULI, Yep, this kid's got my attention. He's
Speaker 1: got my attention. He's got to be more accurate, but
Speaker 1: there's something there. He's got my attention.
Speaker 3: So you realize The Kansas City Chiefs wrapt up camp
Speaker 3: today at Missouri Western State University in Saint Joseph, Missouri.
Speaker 3: Oh does that sound like one of year old Saint
Speaker 3: Louis Cardinals training camps?
Speaker 1: You got that right, Illinois A.
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