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Speaker 1: The Red Seeds Rising Up, timperaturizing vision, flurring rage, take

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Speaker 1: it over.

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Speaker 2: Here's Paul Calvis.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready.

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Speaker 4: I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you ab ready And Ron Wilfleeve it doesn't

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Speaker 3: get any better than that.

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Speaker 5: Leash the fjord.

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Speaker 4: Right out of the gates.

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Speaker 3: We quote Cardinals starting center Yelda Froholt from earlier today,

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Speaker 3: Ron Wolflair, you can call him fro by the way,

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Speaker 3: That's what all the fellows call him.

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Speaker 1: Here's That's what I'm gonna go with.

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Speaker 3: Quote I'm ready, I'm ready to kick off the season.

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Speaker 3: Camp is always fun. The first couple of weeks and

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Speaker 3: then dot dot dot Yelder didn't finish the sentence, so

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Speaker 3: I will allow me to finish the sentence. Then the

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Speaker 3: first depth chart comes out. Then the first game and

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Speaker 3: time is running out. So you get the Mando urgency

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Speaker 3: and you get the intensity. And that's why you've seen

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Speaker 3: multiple training camp fights and fisticuffs, the skirmishes and scuffles

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Speaker 3: all this week. Whether it's the Raiders and Rams, Ravens

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Speaker 3: the NFL landscape because these guys realize I better go

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Speaker 3: down swinging and figuraedly to make a fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 4: Am I wrong? Ron Wolfley?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not saying you're wrong at all, Paul. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is something that's gonna happen right here, and it

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Speaker 1: is training camp. This goes on in training camp. You

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Speaker 1: can never ever accept it if it happens in a game.

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Speaker 1: You selfish dude, How could you possibly do that? Cost

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Speaker 1: us fifteen yards in a game. I'm talking about in

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Speaker 1: get fined, you could get suspended. It's just a selfish act.

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Speaker 1: But in training camp, PAULI, you're gonna see it. It's

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Speaker 3: So a little bit later, we're gonna ask Jonathan Ledbetter,

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Speaker 3: the culture shock, everything that goes into this camp under

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Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon. And now you have a Cardinals team coming

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Speaker 3: off a preseason win. Ron Wolfley car Over Denver eighteen seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Too many times, too often did we hear the words

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Speaker 3: And too often it was Cardinals beating Cardinals, whether it

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Speaker 3: And there's no doubt there are teaching moments, no question

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Speaker 1: Paul, you just cannot overstate how important it is to

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Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, you won the game, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you did something that I think it

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: In fact, it was it was Dennis Gardick who said

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Speaker 3: The real objective was to go out there and quote

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they did, Paully, But you know what,

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Speaker 1: Think of that last possession. Think of that David blau

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Speaker 3: We saw a couple of undrafted rookie tight ends getting

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Speaker 7: It was just great to see him out of practice today, right.

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Speaker 7: He got a little bit of routes on air and

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Speaker 3: Now, look, he's not going eleven on eleven, he's not

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Speaker 3: zach Ertz on that field, that's looking more promising by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, if I were zach Er two man,

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Speaker 1: I do. What I love about this right here, PAULI

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Speaker 1: my opinion. Now, they're going to mix it up between

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Speaker 1: eleven and twelve, There's no doubt about that. But zach

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Speaker 4: Ye, so I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: It's coming a lot of tight ends, and that tight

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Speaker 3: And when you factor in play action, how many times

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Speaker 1: Easy doubt about it. Poly Seriously, I say amen to

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Speaker 3: Hey, reminder the day Patch podcast. I mean it's up

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Speaker 3: by the way, Nick Rollis's defense is going to get

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Speaker 8: That is a hempo setting, tone setting type of victory

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Speaker 1: Right here and a great, great opportunity for every one

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Speaker 3: Ill tell you as far as preseason games go, run wollefully,

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Speaker 3: He then used two more words this week that I

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Speaker 7: I think what's coach s Gannon has done this week

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Speaker 3: and so, okay, you're setting the vibe now because next

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that, Paul, it really is. And

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Speaker 3: He pulled yeah, yeah, Derek Carr and the Saints, who

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Speaker 4: We'll see if d J.

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Speaker 4: Don't let the smile fool you, man, It's definitely mean.

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Speaker 8: We have to let the one one phrase I used

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Speaker 3: That's one of the best things I heard all week. Now,

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Speaker 1: Paul, I know that. I know that kind of transformation.

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Speaker 1: Paul I do. I'm not trying to say look at me,

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Speaker 3: got out against a corner and flatten hum on a screen.

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Speaker 3: Would you make of the center, because obviously that was

437
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Speaker 3: a big question mark in the offseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I loved his physicality. I love the way he

439
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Speaker 1: moved as well, Pauly, didn't you. I mean he was

440
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Speaker 1: moving around right there. I was really impressed with that.

441
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Speaker 1: But most importantly, it's the fact he knows this offense

442
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Speaker 1: so well, and that is going to expedite the process

443
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Speaker 1: of every other offensive lineman and that offensive line getting better.

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Speaker 4: It's a great point.

445
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Speaker 3: Only four career starts at center, but he's had a

446
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Speaker 3: lot of starts at guard, so he knows offensive line

447
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Speaker 3: play and he knows the offense. To your point, Yes,

448
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Speaker 3: and then combined with a fourteen years experience of Cole McCoy,

449
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Speaker 3: you got to figure they're going to be able to

450
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Speaker 3: diagnose any front that they're going to throw at the

451
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Speaker 3: Cardinals offense. Hey, single game tickets on sale now. Go

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Speaker 3: to Aisycardinals dot com slash buy tickets to secure.

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Speaker 4: Your seats today.

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Speaker 3: D Lineman Jonathan Ledbetter next on the Big Red Rage

455
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Speaker 3: presented by Santan Ford.

456
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Speaker 4: In Gilbert.

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Speaker 3: Second and seven play action, ripman steps up, hit and sacked.

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Speaker 4: It's Ledbetter that gets him at the thirty yard line.

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Speaker 4: A loss of seven.

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Speaker 9: Great leader, great teammate, great locker room guy. In the

461
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Speaker 9: run game, he's excellent technician, plays really well with his hands.

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Speaker 9: He's strong at the point of attack.

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Speaker 4: If he gets a.

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Speaker 9: Double team, he can incher it down. He's not getting moved.

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Speaker 9: If he gets a single block, he can play primary

466
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Speaker 9: a secondary gap, and he's pushing the pocket in the

467
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Speaker 9: pass games.

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Speaker 3: Defensive coordinator Nick Rowlis with some props and praise for

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Speaker 3: our special guest tonight on the Big Red Rage presented

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Speaker 3: by Santan Fordying Gilbert. You heard the highlight there from

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Speaker 3: the game at Denver late last season. Let's see here,

472
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Speaker 3: six tackles, tackle for loss, quarterback hit, first career full

473
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Speaker 3: sack for Jonathan Ledbetter is our guest tonight, and he

474
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Speaker 3: most definitely just finished a practice.

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Speaker 1: That one.

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Speaker 3: Let me give you props and praise because there's a

477
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Speaker 3: media pencil next standing standing in the shade. I could

478
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Speaker 3: barely take the heat. What's it like practicing out there

479
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Speaker 3: in the Arizona Triple Digits.

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Speaker 5: Man, it's definitely definitely hot out there. We're just getting

481
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Speaker 5: back in the grind and kind of used to things

482
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Speaker 5: being in the heat. You know, whole training camp. We

483
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Speaker 5: were kind of in our stadium inside in the air conditioning,

484
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Speaker 5: so it definitely feels a little bit different. But like

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Speaker 5: I said, you gotta go out there, You got to grind.

486
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Speaker 5: You just got to kind of feel those elements and

487
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Speaker 5: it pushes you to be a better player. So you

488
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Speaker 5: just got to embrace it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, whatever the joint practices at Minnesota throw at you

490
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Speaker 3: next week, easy, right, whatever Washington is all about. Week one,

491
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Speaker 3: nothing compared to what you guys got this week.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. I think it was like one to ten by

493
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Speaker 4: like nine o'clock.

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Speaker 3: So are you one of those guys who loses a

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Speaker 3: lot of weight from the beginning to the end of practice.

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Speaker 4: I am, So I've been having to eat. Man.

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Speaker 5: We weighed in today and I actually, man, I cooked

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Speaker 5: last night, so I was like, I didn't want to

499
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Speaker 5: eat too late, but I was like, man, I've probably

500
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Speaker 5: lost like six pounds, so I was underweight actually, so

501
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Speaker 5: it was okay, But I lose a bunch of weight

502
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Speaker 5: just through sweat, just kind of fluctuated.

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Speaker 4: I've always been like that since college.

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Speaker 3: All right, So we're gonna save this cooking debate until later.

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Speaker 3: But since you brought it up, your teammate in the.

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Speaker 4: D line room.

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Speaker 8: L J.

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Speaker 3: Collier took exception with apparently something you told media member

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Speaker 3: Camcox twelve News about your abilities in the kitchen.

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Speaker 4: Here's l J. Collier, Jonathan Ledbetter. Haven't cooked anything we

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Speaker 4: go out to eat.

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Speaker 5: If anything, I feel like if anybody is the best

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Speaker 5: cooking the D line room, it's me.

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Speaker 4: I make one hell of a steak. Shout out to

515
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Speaker 4: trager Man. Okay, so he's flexing his ability to grill

516
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Speaker 4: a steak. Yeah, the only steak he grew is still

517
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Speaker 4: in his freezer. So he told us. He told us

518
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Speaker 4: he was gonnavite everybody over to come to the pool

519
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Speaker 4: and he was like, I'm buying steak.

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Speaker 5: So I'm buying chicken wings and we just didn't make it.

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Speaker 5: So I think it's still in his freezer or it's

522
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Speaker 5: in the trash. Well, that's what camp's all about. You

523
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Speaker 5: got to prove it right exactly every day. Yeah, what's

524
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Speaker 5: it been like in that D line room? Let me

525
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Speaker 5: ask you this, how have you guys been treating Dante

526
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Speaker 5: still's the sixth round rookie? Because some of the stories

527
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Speaker 5: I'm hearing not at the old line room, I mean

528
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Speaker 5: the demands.

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Speaker 3: The you know of pairs Johnson Junior and John Gaines,

530
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Speaker 3: guys like Kelvin Beacham making him cut the sandwiches into triangles.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's like unnecessarily harsh. I mean, how do

532
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Speaker 3: you guys treating Dante Steels these days?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 5: We got two rooks right now. So we got Dante

535
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Speaker 5: Stiles and Jacob slid Man, and they've been great. Man,

536
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Speaker 5: they haven't had to do too much. We're kind of

537
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Speaker 5: a laid back group. You know, I think the oldest

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Speaker 5: guy in the room, I'm not even the oldest guy

539
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Speaker 5: in year five, but I think the oldest guy is Carlos,

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Speaker 5: so you know, he's only in year six or seven. So,

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Speaker 5: you know, we keep it cool, man. We don't make

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Speaker 5: them do too much. We did a sprite challenge, like

543
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Speaker 5: they had to drink a whole sprite without like you know,

544
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Speaker 5: burping or breathing in our meeting room. So that was

545
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Speaker 5: a little joke we did. And then they just did

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Speaker 5: their little rookie skit. So they went up and sang

547
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Speaker 5: and and Dante did pretty good. Jacob tried to sing

548
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Speaker 5: something from SpongeBob and everybody was not having it, so

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Speaker 5: he got booed pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: Did anybody steal the rookie the Rookie Town Show? Who

551
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Speaker 3: is the best dude?

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Speaker 5: I would say Dante and John John. John was really good.

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Speaker 5: He actually was singing his heart out up there.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he was singing. He was he got he's got

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Speaker 4: a voice.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, it's interesting. DJ Humphreys was asked

558
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Speaker 3: early in camp about the culture shift that Jonathan Gannon

559
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Speaker 3: has brought as the head coach, and DJ cut off

560
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: the interviewer and you know what, it's really been more

561
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Speaker 3: like a culture shot shock.

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Speaker 4: How would you describe man? I love him.

563
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Speaker 5: I love I love his energy, just how he approaches

564
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 5: practice and approaches situations and just everything in the game.

565
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Speaker 5: Like it's clear and concise, so you know what you're doing,

566
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Speaker 5: but not only that, you know why you're doing it.

567
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Speaker 5: And I think that's the most important thing for you know,

568
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 5: athletes and football players, especially in the professional roun you

569
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Speaker 5: kind of get a better understanding of the game. You know,

570
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 5: everybody's good, everybody's fast, everybody's strong, but it's that edge,

571
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Speaker 5: that you know, mental edge that gives you the you know,

572
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Speaker 5: up one on your opponents. And he emphasizes that as

573
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Speaker 5: he coaches and as he teaches, and and he's literally

574
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Speaker 5: like one of the guys, so like, it's so cool.

575
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Speaker 5: You go out there, you'd be like, bro, like, what

576
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Speaker 5: are you seeing here? He's like, no, Bro, what are

577
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Speaker 5: you seeing here? And then we talk and you know,

578
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Speaker 5: you just kind of move forward from that, and you know,

579
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: not all coaches are like that, So it's definitely. You know,

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Speaker 5: I'm grateful to have them here, and I know all

581
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Speaker 5: the guys are as well, and we're excited to get

582
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Speaker 5: things rolling.

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Speaker 4: Man, it's it's been great.

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Speaker 3: Look, this Cardinals team a year ago led the NFL

585
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Speaker 3: in pre snap penalties. Little things are big things in

586
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Speaker 3: a league where more than half the games are decided

587
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Speaker 3: by a single touchdown or less, so those little things

588
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: can add up over the course of a game. There's

589
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Speaker 3: no doubt Jonathan ledbetter as our guest defensive line in

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Speaker 3: Arizona Cardinals. Have you been held accountable by JG?

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Speaker 1: Yet?

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Speaker 3: Seems like everyone has a story where JG called him

593
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Speaker 3: out and either corrected them or put them on the spot.

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Speaker 7: Oh.

595
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I think two years ago I actually had to play

597
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Speaker 5: in the game, or actually last year I had to

598
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Speaker 5: play in a game where I was aligned off sides

599
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Speaker 5: and for now, for us, that's a non negotiable. So

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Speaker 5: you know that's literally like that does not happen. You know,

601
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Speaker 5: that's a pre snap thing that you can control. We're

602
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 5: always emphasized and control of the controllables, and you know,

603
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 5: do what you can to prevent, you know, things from

604
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Speaker 5: happening bad to the team, and like you can't align

605
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Speaker 5: off sides, no illegal formations, no illegal shifts, just things

606
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Speaker 5: like that, you know, just to make you better as

607
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Speaker 5: a player, just so you're smart, you know, you got

608
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Speaker 5: to be aware.

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Speaker 3: So the first official depth chart came out last week

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Speaker 3: and you're running first team.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, how big? How big a deal is that?

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Speaker 5: Man? Well, if anybody that knows me, you know, I'm

613
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Speaker 5: a journeyman and you know, so I've been up and

614
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Speaker 5: down in the league. You know, I was undrafted, and

615
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 5: it's just a blessing. You know that my hart work

616
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 5: is finally you know, being able to give some being

617
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Speaker 5: given some credit. And you know, I'm just blessed. And

618
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Speaker 5: I know I got to go out there every day

619
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Speaker 5: and continue to earn that starting spot. And you know,

620
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Speaker 5: I'm grateful for my coaching staff that they believe in me.

621
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Speaker 5: It just makes me want to go out there and

622
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Speaker 5: play that much harder for them and the guys.

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Speaker 3: Jonathan led better. I guess you were a team captain

624
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Speaker 3: at Georgia your senior year, right, I mean, yes, you

625
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: were second team All SEC. We saw the game you

626
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Speaker 3: put together at Denver. We heard the highlight, we saw

627
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Speaker 3: the box score. How much upside do you think you

628
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Speaker 3: still have in this league?

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Speaker 5: I think I'm just getting started, you know. I've been

630
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Speaker 5: kind of grinding my way to get where I am now,

631
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Speaker 5: to just get on the field.

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Speaker 4: You know, I got to.

633
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Speaker 5: Arizona, I ended up playing one game under Cliff in

634
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Speaker 5: my first year, and then I was on kind of

635
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 5: practice squad the rest of the year. And the last

636
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: year I kind of was able to put some stuff

637
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Speaker 5: on tape and you know, string some good games together

638
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Speaker 5: and continue to, you know, do whatever the team needed

639
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Speaker 5: to be me to be as a role player. And

640
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Speaker 5: I still believe I am the role player. You know,

641
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Speaker 5: I'm always going to be that. Whatever the team needs,

642
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Speaker 5: whatever my guys need for me, I'm going to be

643
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Speaker 5: there and do it for them.

644
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Speaker 3: You know, because you know what everyone said about this

645
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Speaker 3: defensive line room all off season, The narrative was something

646
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Speaker 3: like this For media pencil necks like me. There were

647
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Speaker 3: thirty six sacks by the Cardinals defense. Exactly half of

648
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Speaker 3: them walked out the door. In JJ Watt and Zach Allen.

649
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Speaker 3: There's a lot for that d line room to prove,

650
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Speaker 3: isn't there? And what do you do I mean, as

651
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: a group, where do you think this this team is

652
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Speaker 3: headed on along that defensive front, because we know how

653
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Speaker 3: demoralizing it is. If you can't get to the quarterback,

654
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Speaker 3: if you can't stop the run, it's gonna be a

655
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Speaker 3: long night.

656
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Speaker 1: Oh.

657
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely. You know, we've been working hard.

658
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Speaker 1: Man.

659
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 5: Like I said, everybody in our room has a chip

660
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 5: on their shoulder. You know, everyone has a story, everyone's

661
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 5: you know, had a background. And I think those are

662
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Speaker 5: the teams that end up actually surprising people, you know.

663
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Speaker 5: And I don't really care what people thing. I don't

664
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 5: really care about the media. I believe in myself. I

665
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 5: believe in my guys, and I believe in this organization.

666
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 5: And we work hard every day. We go out there

667
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 5: to push ourselves, you know, and our coach puts us

668
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 5: in the best possible position to win.

669
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Speaker 4: And you know, at the end of the day. You

670
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 4: got to go out there and do just that. You

671
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: gotta win.

672
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 5: So we're gonna we're gonna do what we need to

673
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 5: do as a team and continue to elevate. And you know,

674
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 5: we did lose Ac, that was my guy. We lost

675
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 5: JJ two and you know they're two great players, you know.

676
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 5: But we got a great room, and like I said,

677
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 5: I believe in every single person in there, and I

678
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 5: know that we're gonna get the job done.

679
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: Sounds like you're close with LJ.

680
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Speaker 1: Collair.

681
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,479
Speaker 5: I'm close with all the guys, so we're all close, man.

682
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, there's my due. We actually played in the

683
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 5: senior ball together when we came.

684
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Speaker 3: I get it, Okay, okay, I mean it sounds like

685
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 3: he's got something to prove as a former first round pick.

686
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 5: Absolutely absolutely, And man, we're working together so that everybody

687
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 5: can prove it. Man, everybody can eat. You know, there's

688
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 5: enough food at the table for everybody to have their

689
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 5: full What do you think of Nick Rowlis so far?

690
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 5: Talking to some of the coaches, they're like, you know

691
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: what one more than Nick Rowl's your defensive coordinator, assassin, Like, wow,

692
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 5: he's aggressive, isn't it he is?

693
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: He is man. I love playing like that. Man.

694
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 5: It gives you chances, it gives you opportunities, and it's

695
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 5: not so much as you know, a defense that's just

696
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 5: clear cut, like he's like, hey, like what do you see?

697
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 5: What do you feel? Let's do this so you can

698
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 5: do this. Let's free you up right here, you know,

699
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 5: just just any opportunity to allow you to go play

700
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 5: football how you play it. He's trying to give you that.

701
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 5: And like I said, the understanding of the game itself

702
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 5: is what they teach, not only scheme. So it's just

703
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 5: like a breath of fresh air because you're kind of

704
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 5: getting it on two ends and you're like, okay, well

705
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 5: I understand this, so now I can go do this

706
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: within the scheme. And that's really cool because you know,

707
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 5: some places, you know, it's just like hey, go straight

708
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 5: do this, you know, and that's it.

709
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 4: You know, just do your job.

710
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 5: But here, it's like we got a really smart room,

711
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 5: so we're able to put more stuff on our guys

712
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 5: on the D line and our outside linebackers too, you know,

713
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 5: be able to draw things up and dial things up

714
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 5: to make it fun and be aggressive and attack.

715
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: I mean, Jonathan, that defensive line was disruptive in the

716
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 3: preseason opener. You guys were in the backfield quite a bit.

717
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: You guys were hitting, harassing Russell Wilson. Now you get

718
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 3: Kansas City, Andy Reid says, the starter is gonna play

719
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: most of the first half. They're known for having one

720
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: of the better interior old lines in the NFL.

721
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Speaker 4: You like that, You like that when you get to

722
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Speaker 4: go against the starters.

723
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Speaker 5: Absolutely. I was actually mad that we didn't get to play.

724
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm always, like I said, I've been the

725
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 5: underdog guy. So you know, preseason for me is like

726
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 5: you're playing all preseason. So it's just different this year.

727
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: You know, I only played a couple of snaps in

728
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 5: the beginning, and like, once I got started, I was like, man, coach,

729
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 5: I want some more, you know, And like all the

730
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 5: guys are like that. Man, everybody's hungry. Like I said,

731
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 5: it's that chip on their shoulders. So you know, even

732
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Speaker 5: this preseason game, I'm treating like a real game.

733
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Man.

734
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 5: I'm going out there and I'm putting stuff on tape

735
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Speaker 5: that I know that i need to work on and

736
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Speaker 5: to prepare myself to be ready for the season.

737
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Speaker 4: And everybody on this team and on the squad is

738
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 4: doing just that.

739
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: How close have you been to get into a fight

740
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: in camp? Come on, now there's been O line D

741
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 3: line guys hot, they're getting shippy.

742
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: I'm usually the guy like last year, like I'm the reason,

743
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 5: like we had a whole team fight, like in the indoor,

744
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 5: like the O line D line, Like I was probably

745
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 5: the reason that erupted. This year, I've been trying to

746
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 5: be a better leader for the guys, So I say

747
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 5: I've been the guy like breaking up the fight, trying

748
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 5: to go out there and everybody down to be the mediator,

749
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 5: because I know once I go, I'm going like somebody's

750
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 5: got to get me. So I'm just trying to make

751
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 5: sure everybody's cool. And you know, we're all family. So

752
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 5: even in stuff that happens out there, man, we we

753
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 5: squash it.

754
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 4: We come back.

755
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 5: We know football is a chippy game and we love

756
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 5: each other man. Like it's just it's always done and

757
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 5: always left on the field before we come back.

758
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 7: In the locker room.

759
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 4: Okay, what can you tell us about last year? What happened?

760
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 3: Were you trying it was a by design? We're trying

761
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 3: to make a statement. You're trying to get noticed by

762
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 3: the coaches or you're.

763
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 5: Actually doing one on ones. And I think I was

764
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 5: going against MO and the first rep I won, and

765
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 5: you know, like you just get a little chippy in there, man,

766
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 5: and you know you trash talking talking smack, and you

767
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 5: know what, He's like, Oh, let's run it back. And

768
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, you're a rook man. You don't get

769
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 5: to run it back, you know what, an older guy.

770
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Speaker 5: So you know, we run it back. And he actually

771
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Speaker 5: had a good rep.

772
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Speaker 6: Man.

773
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Speaker 5: He actually stopped me kind of like when I was

774
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 5: trying to throw my swipe and the rep was over

775
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 5: and they blew the whistle. But he tried to keep

776
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 5: driving and keep going and try to take me to

777
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 5: the ground.

778
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 4: And I got up.

779
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 5: Man, I just start swinging cause I'm just like, yo, man,

780
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 5: like we don't go to the ground. Like what's was blown,

781
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 5: it's over, plays dead. And as soon as I got

782
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 5: up and swung on him, I'm not gonna lie. I

783
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 5: saw JJ he just came out of nowhere and literally

784
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 5: speared him and then everything erupted. They cut the clip,

785
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 5: they cut everything, and everything erupted.

786
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 4: We canceled. Practice was over. Practice was over.

787
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: You probably got you probably got thanks in the locker room,

788
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 3: and I gotta chewed out too, who was one of

789
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: the other the players. It was great for the coaches,

790
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: not so much. I'm actually shocked Marquise Hayes has not

791
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: started a fight yet in this camp. I'm actually shocked

792
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 3: by that because.

793
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 5: Man, he's he's been working on his discipline and he's

794
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 5: been working on getting better.

795
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 4: I love that kid.

796
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 5: He's he's he's he's big, he's strong, and when he

797
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 5: puts everything together, it looks good.

798
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 4: Hey, we look forward to what preseason game number two.

799
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: We look forward to the joint practices next week in Minnesota.

800
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 4: Be nothing like Arizona. I mean, you gotta be totally easy. Jonathan,

801
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: thank you for the time. I appreciate you guys, thanks

802
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 4: for having me. There we go.

803
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: Jonathan led Better on the big red rage presented by

804
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: santan forward in Gilbert Fack. Right after this, Jared stood

805
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: him in the gon to the year after a play

806
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: action fig on the move throws and it's broken up

807
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 3: nearly picked off by key Trell Clark.

808
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 4: And you want to evaluate guys. You want to be

809
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 4: able to see what they can do. Can they play

810
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 4: his own?

811
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: Can they play man Key Tell Clark is the guy

812
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: that they are very high on.

813
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 4: Key Trail Clark is looking very comfortable out there in

814
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: this circumstance. I love what I'm seeing from.

815
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: Him right now.

816
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 10: I really say that it's a it's a good energy

817
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 10: going around the room. At the end of the day,

818
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 10: we all know that we're competing to play on the

819
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 10: field and only two corners can be out there at

820
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 10: the same time. But there's no hate or anything. We

821
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 10: all want to make each other better and we're just

822
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 10: gonna continue to just strive to be our best sales

823
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 10: every day. And you know, when the game day comes,

824
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 10: we'll know who'll be out.

825
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 3: There six round rookie Key Trell Clark, who sons like

826
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: anything but a rookie. I mean, you talk about precocious.

827
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: That was part of the postgame interview with Drew stan

828
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: youers truly ron Mopefully. Here we are on the Big

829
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: Red Rage presented by sand tan Ford in Gilbert Special

830
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 3: thanks to Jonathan Ledbetter. That was some good stuff about

831
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 3: play by play of him starting that fight with Marquise

832
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 3: Hayes a year ago. Right, so he's been on his

833
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: p's and q's this time around, but the fight at

834
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: cornerback Wolf and to hear Keith Trell Clark later in

835
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: that interview, he took us through a play by play

836
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: of what he saw leading up to the pass breakup,

837
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 3: and Drew Stan looked at me and like, raise both eyebrows.

838
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: He's like, that is next level analysis for a rookie corner.

839
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 3: So if he's thinking the game already at that level,

840
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: no wonder he's making run at a starting corner spot

841
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 3: just considering. Guess what, everything is wide open at that

842
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 3: position group, Yeah.

843
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: No doubt about it, Paully. It's a great position room

844
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: to actually get the opportunity to go play that dB room,

845
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: that corner back room right there, and he is getting

846
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: that opportunity. I love what I'm seeing from him. He's

847
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: got some swag to him, Polly, which I really like.

848
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: He's very, very confident, and that's great. But can I

849
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: just say right now, that's where rookie corners are gonna

850
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: be coming into the LEA because you can't play cornerback

851
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: and try to play cornerback in the NFL unless you've

852
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: got an awful lot of confidence. What happens, and this

853
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: is just me, what happens when suddenly you go out

854
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: and Pat Mahomes lights you up. You know, how do

855
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: you respond? Then after that? That really is going to

856
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: be the key for key Trout Clark.

857
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: We saw Anteonio Hamilton come in the second half now

858
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: but the ultra veteran and he immediately has a pick,

859
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 3: almost had a second. Yes, he ended up with that

860
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 3: pass interference penalty call against him, but there was nearly

861
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 3: a sack on that play that would have saved him.

862
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 3: Then there's Christian Matthew, the second year, seventh rounder. I

863
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 3: mean his size and his ability to really stay close

864
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 3: with the receivers in camp. You saw it again in

865
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 3: the game. So Nick rollis the defensive coordinator, met the

866
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: media today and he was asked about how that cornerback

867
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: competition is shaping up.

868
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 9: Great competition, guys that are locked in and improving every day.

869
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 9: I'm seeing a lot of growth. I'm seeing the competition

870
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 9: get really tight, but also a room that is together,

871
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 9: and those guys, when I see each other, get better

872
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Speaker 9: and are pushing each other. And I'm happy with the progress.

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Speaker 9: We got a lot more progress to make, but I'm

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Speaker 9: excited over the next However, many weeks I camp we

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Speaker 9: have left to see who really steps in and takes

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Speaker 9: certain roles.

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Speaker 3: There were two media finds earlier this week. There's the

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Speaker 3: third because that's actually from the Dave Pash podcast. Right there,

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Speaker 3: Nick rowllis visiting with Dave some great stuff. Would you

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Speaker 3: make the defense in the debut? And what do you

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Speaker 3: think about some of those position battles and where they

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Speaker 3: stand right now?

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Speaker 7: Wolf?

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Speaker 3: Where's your eye going to go on Saturday night against

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Speaker 3: Casey Well Paully.

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Speaker 1: You know, first of all, I thought, once again the

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Speaker 1: defense superseded every expectation I had. I thought they played

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Speaker 1: really really well, especially the starters. Of course in that

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Speaker 1: first quarter that really blew my mind. Cornerback at the

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Speaker 1: cornerback room is definitely that's very very competitive. I like

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Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton coming out as the starter week one. I

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Speaker 1: like that he did make some plays as well. We'll

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Speaker 1: see how it goes. That's not a slam on anybody else.

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Speaker 1: I think Key Trell Clark is gonna be your nickel

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Speaker 1: corner of course, opposite of Marco. Let me just say this,

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Speaker 1: what will I be watching? First of all, Paul, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be watching the offense in regard to running the

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Speaker 1: tackle zone, running the stretch play running the outside play

899
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Speaker 1: better than what they did, especially the starters running that

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Speaker 1: play better. That is the integral play to this offense.

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Speaker 1: When you take a quarterback and you stick them under center,

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Speaker 1: especially in rundown situation. You're saying, we've got five plays

903
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Speaker 1: and I'm simplifying it for effect, but we got five

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Speaker 1: plays we're gonna run. The problem is we could run

905
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Speaker 1: the ball or we could throw the ball in. You

906
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Speaker 1: on the second level and third level don't know what

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do. If we execute correctly, you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to guess and see that's the problem. That's the problem.

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Speaker 1: So for me, it all starts with being able to

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Speaker 1: run that play. Execute that play where you can rip

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Speaker 1: that ball for four five on a regular basis, running

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Speaker 1: that tackle zone play. That's what I'm looking for. Number one.

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Speaker 1: Number two, more play action, Polly. I want to see

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Speaker 1: more play action off of that action, that tackle zone

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Speaker 1: stretch play action, whether it's a boot, a waggle, or

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Speaker 1: a straight seven step drop in the pocket. I want

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Speaker 1: to see more play action. And then finally, Polly, I

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Speaker 1: want to see some gap integrity, just like what we

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Speaker 1: saw on the defensive line. You and I have had

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Speaker 1: this conversation many many times. That is my concern. I

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Speaker 1: think it's your concern as well, being able to actually

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Speaker 1: stop the run. What I saw them do in that

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Speaker 1: first quarter the starters against the Denver Broncos was very encouraging.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see them follow it up with the

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Speaker 1: same type of gap integrity attacking that that line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage with their front six or seven.

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Speaker 3: No, that's great stuff. You know what, I'll name some

928
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Speaker 3: names going back to offense where you started. Michael Wilson,

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Speaker 3: he only played a couple of series. Love to see

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Speaker 3: more out of him against Kansas City. I'd love to

931
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Speaker 3: see Trey McBride, who's been back of practice this week.

932
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Speaker 3: Exactly what do they have in mind for Trey McBride,

933
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Speaker 3: because I think he's gonna be on the move a

934
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Speaker 3: lot as an HVAC slash tight end. And then when

935
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Speaker 3: you get over to the defense, I'd love to see

936
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Speaker 3: my j Sanders and even more bj Ojalai All. We'd

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Speaker 3: love to see those two guys out there because I'm

938
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Speaker 3: with you. Zamon Collins, Dennis Gardek, Cam Thomas had a sack.

939
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Speaker 3: They all exceeded expectations. I thought they all looked regular

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Speaker 3: season ready, there's no question about that. So I'd love

941
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Speaker 3: to see some of those other edge guys because we've

942
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Speaker 3: even seen Jesse Luketta and Victor d Mukage run with

943
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Speaker 3: the ones at times. So what are they doing at

944
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Speaker 3: that outside linebacker spot? It seems much more deep in

945
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Speaker 3: terms of that depth in that room than we ever envision.

946
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Speaker 3: There's that, and then of course, okay, what are you

947
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Speaker 3: gonna do with inside linebacker behind KUYSI?

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Speaker 4: You're white.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a hotly congested competition too.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's so fascinating, Bully. You play by play

951
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Speaker 1: guys are all about the players. Yes, And here I

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Speaker 1: am as a color analyst, of course, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: maybe Drew would probably agree with me. Here. You know

954
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Speaker 1: what we're all about the play, you know, figure about

955
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Speaker 1: the player. It's the play. This is a brand new scheme, Pully.

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Speaker 1: This is this is a brand new coaching staff. We're

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Speaker 1: trying to late this brand new foundation. What do we

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Speaker 1: what are we running here? What kind of personnel groups

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Speaker 1: and what kind of plays are we actually running? The scheme?

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Speaker 1: The scheme, the scheme, I'm fascinated with it. And you

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Speaker 1: play by play guys are all the same.

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Speaker 4: No, you're right.

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Speaker 3: I was like, who's on the field for the first play?

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Speaker 3: And Drew stan was like, no, what is the first play?

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Speaker 3: But you know the one, the one that we agreed

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Speaker 3: on was Clayton Tune, who yes, who guess what looked

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Speaker 3: like a rookie early?

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Speaker 4: But you know what, so did Oh? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They're number one or number two pick in the draft, right?

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Speaker 3: Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud both struggled big time in

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Speaker 3: their preseason debut.

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Speaker 4: So, yes, rookie.

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, they have this initiation period. But what did you

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Speaker 3: see out of Clayton Tune as the game went on?

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Speaker 3: And what more do you want to see out of

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Speaker 3: the rookie quarterback Saturday night?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I just want to see a little bit more accuracy.

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Speaker 1: I thought he did an excellent job with his poise.

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Speaker 1: Can I just tell you my general overall feel of

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Speaker 1: Clayton tomb PAULI, Yep, this kid's got my attention. He's

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Speaker 1: got my attention. He's got to be more accurate, but

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Speaker 1: there's something there. He's got my attention.

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