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Speaker 1: works to the advantage of Rick Crusoe in Los Angeles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this point, there's nothing like California politics. Jack Pitney knows that.

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Speaker 1: That's why we had him in and we thank you

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Speaker 1: for your insights. Jack, political scientists from Claremont McKenna College.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to just get quickly with Rick and Jennie

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Speaker 1: on this because we covered a lot of ground there.

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Speaker 1: But this l a mayor's race. Something I heard you

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Speaker 1: both discussing earlier today is a race about money. Is

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Speaker 1: there going to be a lesson learned here, Rick that

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Speaker 1: you know, money doesn't buy everything in politics. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna buy Crusoe a ticket into the general

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Speaker 1: election and then watch how much gets spent. So I

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Speaker 1: don't think we've even scratched the surface. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: the primary was a key thing for him to buy

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Speaker 1: name I D and get into this runoff. But it

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Speaker 1: sounds like that's what's going to happen. I can't imagine

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Speaker 1: what he's willing to spend, mostly of his own money,

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Speaker 1: by the way, uh, you know, to get elected in

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Speaker 1: the general election. So I think we're gonna see this

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Speaker 1: is probably a record breaker for for California mayors versus

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Speaker 1: maybe for the rest of the country. Can Karen Bass

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Speaker 1: helped to make up the difference with money from Washington,

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Speaker 1: Gene She may be able to. But I think the

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Speaker 1: real story here is this, you know, fight in the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party between the establishment and progressives, and progressives are

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Speaker 1: having a hard time in a democratic state right now.

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Speaker 1: It's a great set up for our next conversation. We've

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Speaker 1: got to talk about Pennsylvania as well, fetterman Oz. It's

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Speaker 1: on and so are Rick and Genie. Next. This is Bloomberg.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with Joe Matthew

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Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. Well, so much for the recounts. In Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: After a couple of weeks of pins and needles, the

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Speaker 1: race for senator is set after David McCormick conceded on Friday,

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Speaker 1: even though I won't be your nominee, I remained deeply

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Speaker 1: committed to Pennsylvania and to the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: Nice and easy, he said. He called Dr Roz and

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Speaker 1: let him know here. So Oz will face John Fetterman

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Speaker 1: in the general, which sets up a race that Rick

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Speaker 1: Davis described earlier as I believe a doctor patient contest.

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Speaker 1: Having learned that Fetterman's heart condition. Remember he had a

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Speaker 1: stroke right before the primary. They put a defibrillator in

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Speaker 1: his heart. I guess it was worse than first revealed.

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Speaker 1: Let's reassemble the panel for more on this, Rick, it

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Speaker 1: seems like opportunities abound for a candidate who is known

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Speaker 1: as a medical doctor, as a surgeon, being able to

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Speaker 1: question his rival here about disclosures when it comes to

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Speaker 1: medical health. Well, I think that even if he just says,

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Speaker 1: I hope every day of the campaign that Lieutenant Governor

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Speaker 1: Fetterman is is doing well. It just reminds everybody that

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Speaker 1: he may not be. Uh. And so it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: really not incoming upon him. I think to put it

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Speaker 1: out there, I think every single day, reporters on the

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Speaker 1: campaign trailer are gonna be asking Fetterman, how do you

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Speaker 1: feel today? I mean, he's not going to escape this. Um.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to have gone through the health scare

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Speaker 1: that he had during the primaries, but evidently he was

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Speaker 1: diagnosed back in two thousand seventeen of a heart condition

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Speaker 1: and and did not follow his doctor's instructions. So um.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of splaining to do for

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Speaker 1: the Fetterman campaign. And I think this is going to

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Speaker 1: dog them for the rest of the election. How damaging

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Speaker 1: is this genie does? The Fetterman campaign needs to be

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Speaker 1: proactive here, you know, start putting out the E K

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Speaker 1: G scans. I mean, how do you manage this? You know?

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Speaker 1: I think they need to show that that they didn't

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Speaker 1: withhold any information. There's been a lot of questions about that,

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Speaker 1: that they were honest about his health. Um, and so

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Speaker 1: they're gonna need to put information out there. But let's

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Speaker 1: not forget. You know, Fetterman won all sixties seven counties

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Speaker 1: fifty nine percent of the vote against a Canada and

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Speaker 1: Connor Lamb, who people, you know, at one point thought

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Speaker 1: was the future of of the Democratic Party in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: You juxtapose that with Oz, who barely scraped by with

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Speaker 1: less than a thousand votes against McCormick, was in a

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Speaker 1: recount and had to wait. So you know, yes, Fetterman

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Speaker 1: has had this horrific health scare, and we hope he's well.

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Speaker 1: But Oz has been damaged as well. And we've already

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Speaker 1: seen the Fetterman campaign come out and they have a

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Speaker 1: bumper sticker or a pen now that says Dr Oz

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Speaker 1: for New Jersey because of course he's you know, not

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Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania as they like to talk about. So there

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a lot of back and forth here.

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Speaker 1: It's certainly a Republican year. But you know, Fetterman, for

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Speaker 1: this health scare, was sort of a poster child for

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Speaker 1: showing how Democrats could do this and be this outsider

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Speaker 1: sort of does this impact a tough guy image, Jennie

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Speaker 1: not so tough now, and you've got a heart problem.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm genuinely asking it does I mean, it doesn't.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have to address that. Some people like

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Speaker 1: to describe him as the Paul Bunyan common man. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know he's not a superman. But you know, I

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Speaker 1: thought they did a good job when he said a

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Speaker 1: lot of men his age don't like to go to

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Speaker 1: the doctor, and he was the same way. That's an

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Speaker 1: honest view, and I think that's the kind of argument

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Speaker 1: that he's going to need to make to say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm like everybody else, but I've learned and again he

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Speaker 1: he may have to be forthcoming about his physical health

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Speaker 1: going forward more than they have been. I suspect a

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Speaker 1: lot of people could relate with that. Rick, but wait

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Speaker 1: till Donald Trump gets ahold of this right, or maybe

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump shouldn't be the one talking about heart health. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the more Donald Trump stays out of the

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Speaker 1: Pennsylvania Senate race, a better off it is for Dr Odd.

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Speaker 1: I really think that, uh, as you described, this should

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Speaker 1: be a good turn out. You're would he be the

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Speaker 1: comedy without Trump? Or that's the point you go in

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Speaker 1: the general election? Have Donald Trump stay at Marlou Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think I think the best methodology Donald Trump has

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Speaker 1: is make your picks in the primary, and then uh

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Speaker 1: help whenever the base gets unruly, but otherwise stay out

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Speaker 1: of it because you've got to go beyond your base

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Speaker 1: in order to win out of state like Pennsylvania. And

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Speaker 1: as Genie was saying, it is likely to be a

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Speaker 1: close race, um um, you know, your Republicans usually only

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Speaker 1: win by a couple of points there, and so it

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Speaker 1: will be competitive. I would say that the early indications

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Speaker 1: by the large turnout in the Pennsylvania Republican primary is

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Speaker 1: indicative of a lot of good intensity by Republicans, and

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Speaker 1: so it's Oz's job to keep that moving. Rick, you

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Speaker 1: have actually managed a candidate's health status publicly before. What

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Speaker 1: would be your advice to the Fetterman camp. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think it's very similar to what Genie was saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: be very transparent. I mean, when we had this come

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Speaker 1: up with John McCain in the two thousand presidential campaign,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, how did he survive the prison camp?

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Speaker 1: He must be crazy. We release all of his is

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Speaker 1: uh military medical records. I mean there were probably eight

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Speaker 1: thousand pages, and we let people come in and read

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Speaker 1: through them, and reporters and and and and physicians alike

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Speaker 1: and so uh and and and Frankly, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of good news in there, even if there's some bad news,

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Speaker 1: and you have to put it all out and be

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Speaker 1: transparent about it. Otherwise the issue isn't their health. It's

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Speaker 1: like you're not being cleared American you know, voters, and

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Speaker 1: and that is worse. We're spending time with Rick and

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Speaker 1: Jeanie our signature panel on Bloomberg sound On. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: Matthew at World Headquarters in New York as we prepare

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Speaker 1: not only for primaries tomorrow, but a very important hearing

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Speaker 1: on Thursday. And I haven't had a chance to ask

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Speaker 1: you guys about this. This is the January six Committee,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of news about this. Over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Members of the committee are really starting to get out

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Speaker 1: there a little bit, do a little bit of previewing here.

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Speaker 1: This is, of course, the committee investigating the capital attack,

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Speaker 1: and they're planning their first televised hearing. Not just that

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Speaker 1: you could you know, you could have a televised hearing

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Speaker 1: that nobody would ever see at ten o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 1: This is truly prime time at eight pm. Uh. Among

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Speaker 1: those getting out ahead of this. Liz Cheney, of course,

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Speaker 1: one of only two Republicans on the panel. She sat

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Speaker 1: down with Robert Costa at CBS to talk about what

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Speaker 1: is an inflection point as she sees it here for

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party. Is this moment a moral test for

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party? Absolutely, no, no question, and and right

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Speaker 1: now we're failing. You know, in my state, the state

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Speaker 1: party chairman is a member of the oath Keepers. He

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Speaker 1: was he was here on January six. He was here

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Speaker 1: with a walkie talkie in his hand on January six.

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Speaker 1: That is a mortal threat, and it is a moral test.

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Speaker 1: We can't fail that moral test. But there are too

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Speaker 1: many right now and my party m who are failing.

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Speaker 1: In great curious as a Republican your response to that,

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Speaker 1: and if you do expect to see something meaningfully new

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Speaker 1: on Thursday, Well, I think a lot of it has

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Speaker 1: been that out already. The committee has actually built some

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Speaker 1: momentum around these hearings by selectively releasing uh, different kinds

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Speaker 1: of information that that frankly is pretty interesting. Uh. And

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Speaker 1: I think they're aided by some of the Justice Department

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Speaker 1: prosecutions like today announcing charges against the Proud Boys members,

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Speaker 1: you know, with sedition charges. So there's a there's a

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Speaker 1: building of a crescendo. And of course for Liz Cheney,

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Speaker 1: it's not only just about the moral uh turpitude of

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Speaker 1: her own party, the GOP, but it's also like her

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Speaker 1: entire reelection is going to be banked on whether or

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Speaker 1: not these hearings are seen in her state, and and

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Speaker 1: and that people frankly change their minds when they see them.

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Speaker 1: At least six of these hearings are planned Genie, two

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Speaker 1: of them in prime time. There are professional video producers

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Speaker 1: apparently helping to create portions of this presentation. Most people

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Speaker 1: think they already know everything about January six, right, that's

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Speaker 1: why we're not talking about it every day. How important

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Speaker 1: will these hearings be to bring something new to light?

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Speaker 1: They're critically important, and you know, the committee has been

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Speaker 1: promising that, you know, this is going to be astonishing,

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Speaker 1: it's going to blow people's minds, all of those things.

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Speaker 1: And so a big question is going to be can

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Speaker 1: they meet their own test and can they capture the

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Speaker 1: nation's attention with this or or people so as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: committed to where what to what they know they lived

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Speaker 1: through it, they don't need to know anything more about

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Speaker 1: it that they're just going to sort of ignore it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you juxtapose this with say the Watergate

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Speaker 1: hearings or even around contract. The media has changed an

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Speaker 1: awful lot. And we've already seen that President Trump, former

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Speaker 1: President Trump, is talking about counter programming. He's already reaching

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Speaker 1: out to allies McCarthy, Stefanik, who he's got a fundraiser

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Speaker 1: for tonight to lead the charge on that. And so

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Speaker 1: as much as Republicans may not want to talk about it,

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Speaker 1: there's some allies there who are going to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be fascinating to see if they

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Speaker 1: can live up to the hype that they've set on

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Speaker 1: this and truly given narrative that people captures people really hard,

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Speaker 1: as we all know to do in this environment. So

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about here, Rick? I mean, is

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Speaker 1: it going to be the Capital riot from a different

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Speaker 1: angle we haven't seen before. You know that there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a video camera you didn't know, or will there

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Speaker 1: be actually new information, new names or or at least

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Speaker 1: better connections to the names that we've been hearing about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think part of it is There's gonna be evidence, right,

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be email exchanges that will come to light,

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Speaker 1: There'll be you know, interviews with the committee that they'll

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Speaker 1: talk about. This will all get make its way into

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Speaker 1: the public domain, and so a lot of it will

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Speaker 1: be proof. Right, it won't be just speculation as to

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Speaker 1: what happened, but a lot of it will also focus

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Speaker 1: on the run up to September six or to January six?

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Speaker 1: What what was the intent? Was this really a soft coup? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And and I think that's part of what the conclusion

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Speaker 1: We don't know yet, but what what people are saying,

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Speaker 1: you know what, what it's going to be Ultimately the

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Speaker 1: inclusion was there an attempt by the President United States

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Speaker 1: private sector to thwart the outcome of an election, And

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Speaker 1: and that could be a huge impact in a country

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Speaker 1: that's already divided. You just wonder who's going to be

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Speaker 1: paying attention, Jennie. I don't know if the networks are

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Speaker 1: carrying this, If this is just the cables, it could

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Speaker 1: stand to just galvanize a lot of existing beliefs. That's right,

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Speaker 1: And a lot of this, of course, is going to

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Speaker 1: be you know what do people break out of it

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Speaker 1: and put on Twitter or put on Instagram. You know,

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Speaker 1: these young people don't tend to watch these kinds of

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Speaker 1: live They stream everything. Yeah, and so they're going to

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Speaker 1: have to have people cutting this out and and and

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Speaker 1: moving it forward as you will. So you know, I

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Speaker 1: I am very curious to see how this plays, because

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Speaker 1: again we are a long ways away from the Watergate hearings,

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Speaker 1: and of course we can't forget what a serious situation

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Speaker 1: this was and what a test the committee has in

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Speaker 1: front of them. To meet eight o'clock Washington time Thursday.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a lot to talk about on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Then again, we have a lot to talk about every day.

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Speaker 1: We've got a primary day tomorrow. We'll be talking about

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Speaker 1: it with Rick and Jeannie right here on the fastest

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Speaker 1: hour in politics. I'll meet you back in d C.

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Matthew. This is Bloomberg