WEBVTT - Closing the Mental Health Gap in the Black Community

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<v Speaker 1>What's your family. It's your girl to make a d. Mallory,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's your boy general, and we're your hosts of

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<v Speaker 1>Street Politicians, the place where the politics. Wow, there is

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<v Speaker 1>so so much happening, my slege, I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're like like I don't know. It's like the world

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<v Speaker 1>is just moving and there's so much stuff happening. At

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<v Speaker 1>one time, when we talked about the COVID precautions, precautions

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<v Speaker 1>and staying six ft apart, you were saying that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people are sort of just fighting to remain

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<v Speaker 1>to have some communication and contact like some Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>people are fighting to maintain some level of normalcy or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever is normal. But I was thinking to myself, it's

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<v Speaker 1>really we're not it's not normal, Like we're just not

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<v Speaker 1>Things are just not normal, and um, you know everything

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<v Speaker 1>I think from politics to uh, what's happening in our communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Our dear sister Leslie Redman, who's been a guest on

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<v Speaker 1>Street Politicians. She also was the just the immediate past

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<v Speaker 1>president of the n double a c P chapter in Minneapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the organizers there during George Floyd, even before

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<v Speaker 1>before George Floyd was murdered, and after um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with other activities that she has going on. Now, she

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<v Speaker 1>has her campaign, don't complain. Activate this a powerful young sister.

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<v Speaker 1>She's out there doing the work. And yet her brother,

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<v Speaker 1>who was in his thirties, was killed just this past weekend. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he was shot and killed by someone that more than

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<v Speaker 1>likely looks just like us. And uh, you have that happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You have young people being killed. I think we just

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<v Speaker 1>had another shooting where a child was harmed in New York. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you had the school shooting where young black

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<v Speaker 1>kid went and shot up a school. Some say kids

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<v Speaker 1>in New York was a bron a ten year old

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<v Speaker 1>shot a thirteen year old. That ten year old. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know that ten old kid shot a

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen year old. Wow. A ten year old shot at thirteen. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just crazy things. And then you have the

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<v Speaker 1>the the guy who shot people at a school, a

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<v Speaker 1>young black man. We don't often hear of major school shootings, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>where black kids are the ones shooting up at school.

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<v Speaker 1>But his family talked about bullying. UM talked about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>him being attacked. Uh. So you know, and of course

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<v Speaker 1>there's still no excuse for picking up a gun and

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<v Speaker 1>taking the lives of a number of individuals, putting people

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<v Speaker 1>in harms way, causing that type of trauma. But yet

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<v Speaker 1>there are some serious things happening in society around the

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<v Speaker 1>issues of bullying, the issues of trauma that have to

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<v Speaker 1>be dealt with, and it's finding the balance between all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things to still be able to maintain home,

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<v Speaker 1>maintain home and family and what have you. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot happening. It's a whole lot happened. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>got um John Gruden, who was the the Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders head coach, who's they found these emails from years

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<v Speaker 1>ago from about two eighteen before two eighteen of him

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<v Speaker 1>just saying racists and homophobic and just like every level

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<v Speaker 1>a white supremacy. He just possessed it. It wasn't he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't just mad at black people. He didn't like

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<v Speaker 1>gay people, he didn't like he didn't like nobody. Everything.

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<v Speaker 1>He had an issue with everything, and usually smacist work.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that that's been something like me and

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<v Speaker 1>eat your cb D candies. That's what I do. This

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<v Speaker 1>is my CBD candies. I found this. I was riding

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, stop, this is a story that

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<v Speaker 1>has CBD candies and this is what I eat during

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<v Speaker 1>my day keep my nerves together. This is supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be this is legal. You know candies. Are you looking

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<v Speaker 1>at me like a crazy that's what you got in CBDs? Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>that get you fall asleep? Now, don't get that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make you go to sleep. It takes the edge for

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying. And it's supposed to be better than having

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<v Speaker 1>a midday drink, which I am not above. But I'm working,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't wanna have a drink. So I pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out my candies for my CBD in the You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta get you some stuff. You know, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get you some CBD cands unless you see I'm enough.

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<v Speaker 1>You're never in your life smoke weed one time? One time,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. You tell the story is when you was

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<v Speaker 1>with DMX and you had a trip. You were tripping.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody has a trip like the first time they smoke weed, yea,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you was like, I never want to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to it. It wasn't for me. Why you just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like the feeling or you didn't like the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that experience. I didn't like it. It wasn't for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing is you have been around marijuana enclosed spaces,

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<v Speaker 1>so you probably have felt high. And after that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have, Like you know the time we was in

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<v Speaker 1>the studio and we had a huge chicken that did

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<v Speaker 1>happen to us and you know, two hundred pounds and

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<v Speaker 1>I was moving slower in thethargic and I'm like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>the same for me. But there's some people that just

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<v Speaker 1>smoke weed all day night and I don't know, they

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait, You'll never catch them. Not smooth. That is

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<v Speaker 1>so true. I forgot about that story. But anyway, that's

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<v Speaker 1>one another day. We have to have the people who

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<v Speaker 1>who are a part of that to be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the conversation so it will not be like we're

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<v Speaker 1>a scandalous when we tell it about anyway. So so

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<v Speaker 1>I was taken. I was thinking, how does how does

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party intend to win mid term elections without

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<v Speaker 1>voting rights? Confused? I don't think. I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party attends to win anything. No, they they intend

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that will is something different. You can't, you can't,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't. It's good. There's no way that they expect

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<v Speaker 1>those good old people that they would have voted that

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't private things that ain't got nothing else, people

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<v Speaker 1>that saved them. There's no way they expect those good

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<v Speaker 1>old people to like you as CBD candy. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you want? They know, them good old people. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>back out there to vote again after this. Now they ain't. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, now, you're gonna have to pull another rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>out the hat for this one. Because you Because but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that voting right specifically, let's just say, I

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<v Speaker 1>get your point, right, I get your point from our perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost impossible to believe it disrespectful. It's actually disrespectful

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<v Speaker 1>to even to even to even not just assume, but

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<v Speaker 1>to request stand the people that they belief right that

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<v Speaker 1>they vote for um, anyone who has not fulfilled any

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<v Speaker 1>of the promises that were made. Right So that I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with I agree with you a hundred on that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm speaking of something different. I'm saying that because

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is even when you say I'm not engaging

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<v Speaker 1>myself in this election, I don't believe, I don't trust right.

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<v Speaker 1>We have that position, and that's okay. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to start listening to the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are running against these folks, and when you start listening

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<v Speaker 1>to them and understanding their agenda, it may encourage a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people to say, you know what, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to the post, right, I'm going to the post. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying everyone, and I'm certainly not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>ray Raids and Keysha's and others. But I'm saying there

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<v Speaker 1>are there is a there there is a there are

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<v Speaker 1>a group of people people want to kill me. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I agree with you need to I'm on

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<v Speaker 1>the attack about it all the time, and I still

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<v Speaker 1>would make the same decision if I had to do

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<v Speaker 1>it all over again. But I'm not even I'm speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of something even differ, friends. I'm saying there are some

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<v Speaker 1>folks in our society that, when approached and they are

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<v Speaker 1>listening just because you're watching the news, or you're at church,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're reading the paper, you're in your community, when

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<v Speaker 1>you hear the other side of what you may be

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<v Speaker 1>looking at, and you're listening to someone who absolutely wants

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<v Speaker 1>to take away your right to having abortion so you're

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<v Speaker 1>right to choose, and or they want to open more prisons,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know they want to um, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>you know they want to they want to close more

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<v Speaker 1>schools or you know, take more funding from the communities

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<v Speaker 1>in order to invest more in punitive measures and support

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<v Speaker 1>police and uh, you know they bleed the blue. When

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<v Speaker 1>you hear that rhetoric in that tone, right, it may

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<v Speaker 1>encourage you to say, I don't think that these other

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<v Speaker 1>folks is worth the damn either, but I know I

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<v Speaker 1>have to block this individual from becoming whatever its senator

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever they're voting for in their community. What I'm

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of is, now you're on your way to go

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<v Speaker 1>vote and you find out that your vote is actually

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<v Speaker 1>being suppressed by way of the laws in that particular state,

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<v Speaker 1>just just forget it. I'm saying everything they could have

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<v Speaker 1>done it all right, and this that I'm something about voting, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to vote. The people that want to vote

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<v Speaker 1>that civil believe and say, you know what, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to vote, and they get there and realize they can

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<v Speaker 1>the name has been purged. They need this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>their I D has to be updated there. You know

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<v Speaker 1>they've been voting knowing that you got elderly people who

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<v Speaker 1>have been voted for years with one little letter misspelled

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<v Speaker 1>on their identification versus their voting record, because when we

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<v Speaker 1>were coming out of enslavement and I we never had

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<v Speaker 1>the appropriate records. A lot of people have continued through

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<v Speaker 1>life with things that's not one accurate, but it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>Mama Mad's leaves information, you know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>so to have this, this this situation where it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like people are fumbling and now we're at the administration

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<v Speaker 1>and others are fumbling on fighting as hard as hell

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<v Speaker 1>to get voting rights accomplished. I'm trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>when you're already failing at all getting the policy in place,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you're not even giving people who might just

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<v Speaker 1>still want to be with you the ability to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the post like you. They can't be planning on

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<v Speaker 1>winning anything. They don't plan on winning I'm trying to sell.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have any plan on They're just at this

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<v Speaker 1>point like it's just going through the motions. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>disappointing because you know, you want as somebody who wants

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<v Speaker 1>things to be good, you want things to be right.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you actually praying on it and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to believe that there is some side or

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<v Speaker 1>some individuals that are in power to some certain degree

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<v Speaker 1>that actually want to do right, you know, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, are willing to do whatever necessary to

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<v Speaker 1>do right. So I'm not saying I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe they don't want to do I think they're not.

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<v Speaker 1>What they haven't come to the stage in the mind

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<v Speaker 1>frame of that they have to do was ever necessary

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<v Speaker 1>to do right? Not doing right. It's just not an option.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna allow you to delay justice and delay

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<v Speaker 1>things that are right. I have to do whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>is within my power to make things right, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's even though we hope for that, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>where we are. So, you know, if people can't even

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<v Speaker 1>go to the polls, and then the people that ain't

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<v Speaker 1>never going to the polls, and the people on obviously God,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've got people going to the polls and they reinvigorate,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Chap. They're going to the polls for their

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<v Speaker 1>own agenda, and their agenda is either they're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>some things that they want done that open communities, or

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<v Speaker 1>just stop that community from being able to progress in

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<v Speaker 1>any way they can't get gain anymore ground into um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of breaking down systems of oppression and

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<v Speaker 1>so they vote for different reasons. They vote because you

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<v Speaker 1>might be somebody who maybe you're not as radically conservative

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<v Speaker 1>UM as I want you to be, but I at

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<v Speaker 1>least know that you're not going to support a progressive agenda.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. We have people that are on both sides

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<v Speaker 1>that think similarly. But I think the the issue with

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<v Speaker 1>us as black people at this point is that we

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<v Speaker 1>are no longer in a position to just like we've

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<v Speaker 1>already stopped. Some people can't just keep kicking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just want the shoffing and dry ki ki and

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<v Speaker 1>go alone and get along. So you know, we're just

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<v Speaker 1>in a different space. You know, We've We've got like

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<v Speaker 1>a really really dope show today, two amazing guests that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take us deeper. You know, I'm all about

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<v Speaker 1>going deeper and getting deeper into like who I am

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<v Speaker 1>and where I need to be in lining up all

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<v Speaker 1>of the aligning all of what is going on inside.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot happening with all of us. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>already talked about um at the beginning of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>just the stresses and the pressures and just how life

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<v Speaker 1>is just not what has been considered normal. And I

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<v Speaker 1>guess even what was normal should not have been accepted

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<v Speaker 1>as normal. So we're gonna be learning from two people today,

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<v Speaker 1>really really learning. Um. And so we're right off of

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<v Speaker 1>the heels of International Mental Health Awareness Day just this

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<v Speaker 1>past Sunday and our that's a lot. I didn't even

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<v Speaker 1>know they had something like that. They do. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a month, they have a day. There's a lot of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. You know, you got to be learned. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why we're about to learn. I'm here to learn. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna learn from our two guests today, Anita co Catch

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<v Speaker 1>and also sent to Chay friend Sella. I love her name.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for us. These people got dope names.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope they've got the dope energy because I

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<v Speaker 1>need some. I need to get my my mind right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna bring Anita into the studio, if you will,

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<v Speaker 1>and find out what type of dope energy she has

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<v Speaker 1>right now. That's so, so we have a new friend

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<v Speaker 1>on street politicians today. We we always joke about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that all of the guests that we have come

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<v Speaker 1>up here doing such powerful work. Our friends, people we know, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>people who we admire. This sister is someone who I

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely admire and have been watching her. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've all introduced one another to some really incredible people.

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<v Speaker 1>My son, you introduced me to Charlomagne some time ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and now Charlemagne has introduced us to this wonderful woman

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<v Speaker 1>who was who was our guests, um, Anita co Patch,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a spiritual psychologist and a sex therapist. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm all about that. I'm getting ready to

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<v Speaker 1>like get all into the details. She also just published

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<v Speaker 1>her best selling book, Shallow Waters, and we are sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like siblings under the Black Privilege publishing brand. UM

0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.400
<v Speaker 1>with Charlemagne the God as our I guess he's like

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<v Speaker 1>the boss man. I tell him he's boss all the time. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And she also just finished a real deep mental health

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<v Speaker 1>taken a spiritual of mental health awareness conference that Charlottamagne

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<v Speaker 1>just held. And so there's a lot going on with Anita.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm so so grateful that you took a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of time to come on street politicians and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to my town and us and me today. It is

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<v Speaker 1>such a deep honor for me to be here with

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<v Speaker 1>both of you. The work that you do for our community.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm tearing up now. You can tell I'm already emotional.

0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:34.480
<v Speaker 1>The work that you do for our community is so

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<v Speaker 1>important and it is just such an honor for me

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<v Speaker 1>to be sitting here right now. I just love the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it just gives you healing vibes, like you

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<v Speaker 1>can just tell like everything and here it goes with

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<v Speaker 1>the the comforter and the world. Just look, everything is

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<v Speaker 1>just beautiful. Now. We appreciate you. Thank you for her.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been having us on our show. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having you got him like all twisted around. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>all good, you know. I I just want to drop

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<v Speaker 1>this little note in to say that before you and

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<v Speaker 1>I ever laid eyes on one another, we were already

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<v Speaker 1>supporting one another's books, um, and just supporting and by

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<v Speaker 1>sharing content and and being there to say hey sis,

0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, love to you. And so this idea that

0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:31.280
<v Speaker 1>people need relationships that span over years in order to

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<v Speaker 1>support one another, I think we've debunked that just by

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<v Speaker 1>already having a sisterhood from a distance and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's what makes today incredible. And I have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, been listening and reading and you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>deeply um, paying attention to you and your spiritual advice

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<v Speaker 1>and support, and I already see why Charlemagne and folks

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<v Speaker 1>like Angela Ry and others are attracted to you. And

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<v Speaker 1>so tell us a little bit about the work that

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<v Speaker 1>you do and why you do it. Absolutely so um

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, first of all, I always share this first.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that the black woman is God, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I do everything that I can to um bow to

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<v Speaker 1>black women and to support black women, and to support

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<v Speaker 1>those who are supporting black women. And so that is already,

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<v Speaker 1>um just a part of my mission. I was the

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<v Speaker 1>editor in chief of Heart and Soul for five years

0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.959
<v Speaker 1>and so within that I was able to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of information, uh disseminated out into our communities about

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<v Speaker 1>different ways of getting health and wellness into our hands.

0:19:55.680 --> 0:20:00.919
<v Speaker 1>And what I do as a spiritual psychologist and um

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<v Speaker 1>A certified contra coach sex therapists, I work with people,

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<v Speaker 1>mostly people who have experienced sexual trauma. And the interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing with sexual trauma, especially within our community, is that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much everyone is touched by it because if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't experienced it, your mom has, or your grandmother has,

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<v Speaker 1>or your great grandmother has or your father has. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like there's it's it's very prevalent in our communities. And

0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:40.760
<v Speaker 1>what happens is that trauma can be passed down through

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<v Speaker 1>the generations, which we all know this, and and so

0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:52.239
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you can be walking around with the with the

0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:57.160
<v Speaker 1>symptoms of having been raped or molested, but you're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't been molested, Like why am I feeling this way?

0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Why can't I connect? And it's because it's happened somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>down the line. And so with the work that I do,

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<v Speaker 1>I do a lot to try to normalize the healing

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<v Speaker 1>of it, the speaking of it, especially for men. I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Charlemagne about this as well. Um that that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one in six men have been molested between

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<v Speaker 1>the ages of one and eighteen zero and eighteen and um,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's reported. You know, most people are not reporting

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<v Speaker 1>that ship right you know, Um, I forgot to ask

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm able to we say, shit, Dan, every around

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<v Speaker 1>good gets the you know, gets the point of exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so and it's one in three. So it's one

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<v Speaker 1>in three for women, and so it's it's very prevalent

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<v Speaker 1>in our communities. And and well that's actually not even

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<v Speaker 1>just our community, that's for everyone. Okay, Well, I was

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:15.000
<v Speaker 1>sitting here. When do you when did you notice? Because

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<v Speaker 1>this is not like a to me right when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>listening to you and the understanding that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this is something that you just go

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<v Speaker 1>to school to study. I think there's like a calling.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a feeling, like when you call yourself with healing

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<v Speaker 1>all this, Like when did you feel like this was

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<v Speaker 1>something that you was supposed to be doing? Yes? So

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<v Speaker 1>when I was around eighteen, I started hearing voices right.

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<v Speaker 1>And what most people would say is like, oh, she's crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like go to uh you know, like I

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<v Speaker 1>would have to go to an institution. But what what

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<v Speaker 1>happened was that, UM, I started listening to what the

0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>voices were saying and when I would hear them, and

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<v Speaker 1>my thing, I was actually just sharing this at the

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<v Speaker 1>Mental Wealth UM expo with Charlemagne. I was sharing that, UM,

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I feel like black privilege to me means that we

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<v Speaker 1>have the access to the voice of God and and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of times we think we're going crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>all of this information is coming to us and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what to do with it. And so for me,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was eighteen, I start I start hearing these voices,

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the voices I was hearing. It was not the voice

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<v Speaker 1>of God. These were these were not not good voices

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:52.199
<v Speaker 1>that I was hearing. And so what I realized was

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<v Speaker 1>that when I would walk by people, the voice would

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<v Speaker 1>get louder, and then I had pass and the voice

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<v Speaker 1>would go away. And so I'm wait, am I hearing

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<v Speaker 1>what people are saying or thinking? And so I started

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:08.880
<v Speaker 1>asking them. I was eighteen, I didn't have very much discernment,

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and so what would happen was that people would get

0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>freaked out because I would tell them what they were

0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>thinking and they were like, how did you know? And

0:24:18.920 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 1>this one the last person that I did it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Um It was this older man and he's like talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me and smiling, and all I could hear was

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where my wife and kids are. And

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, look, I know you don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>your wife and kids are. And he grabbed me up

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:38.000
<v Speaker 1>and he was like, where are they? What do you mean?

0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>You know? Like like I was feeling like I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be attacked, and so I like ran home.

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I ran upstairs and I just started praying to God.

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, listen, if this is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a gift. I don't want it. I can't handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, just if there's something that that you feel

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:02.959
<v Speaker 1>like I might be able to handle, show me how

0:25:03.000 --> 0:25:07.160
<v Speaker 1>to do that, but please take these voices away. And

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<v Speaker 1>and so I woke up those voices were gone, and

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:13.240
<v Speaker 1>then I had this dream that I was like throwing

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<v Speaker 1>rocks and reading them for people. Which back, that's more

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 1>than twenty years ago, so there wasn't really very many

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 1>people doing those type of things around, so I didn't

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>know who to ask, so I just started doing it.

0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:31.960
<v Speaker 1>And so that's how it started. I started giving readings

0:25:31.960 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to people, and what I realized is that I didn't

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 1>know what tools to give them to continue on their

0:25:42.119 --> 0:25:46.240
<v Speaker 1>healing journey, and they were getting addicted to reading and

0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:48.679
<v Speaker 1>they would come back and you know, like so it

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.840
<v Speaker 1>was I was just like, okay. So that's when I

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:55.480
<v Speaker 1>decided to get my masters in spiritual psychology. And what

0:25:55.480 --> 0:25:59.479
<v Speaker 1>did your family members say? So? Okay? So I was

0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:03.120
<v Speaker 1>raised in the church, so I was super scared. Once

0:26:03.160 --> 0:26:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I realized I could um see the future and those

0:26:07.080 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>type of things, I was like, oh no, So I

0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:12.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, I asked my mom. I was like, Mom,

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, like am I a demon, right right, And

0:26:16.760 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>she was like anything that comes out of you as

0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:23.760
<v Speaker 1>God m And for her to say that to me,

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 1>being a churchwoman, I was just like because that was

0:26:28.640 --> 0:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>actually probably one of the the scariest person to come

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>out to as a you know, as a psychic, as

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 1>a healer. And my mom when she said that, I

0:26:40.200 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't care what anyone else thinks. My

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 1>mom knows I'm divine, you know. Wow, wow, So what

0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 1>did you? She's supported in a way, But were there

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.639
<v Speaker 1>other folks around who were like either you're were you

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>labeled as crazy or were you always were people just

0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 1>clear in your family and your close friends that this

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>is really a gift. So so with my close friends,

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>they they were very clear that it was a gift.

0:27:11.000 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>It was most the people who would label me as

0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>and and what I heard it wasn't necessarily crazy. They

0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 1>just were like they did they called me a demon

0:27:20.400 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>because they were like, how could you know this? And

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 1>this was people who would come to me for advice

0:27:26.520 --> 0:27:29.120
<v Speaker 1>and then I would tell them something that they wouldn't

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 1>think anybody would know and they would just say that yeah,

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:40.399
<v Speaker 1>and so I you know, it's you know, the work

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:45.000
<v Speaker 1>you do you both do it's it like comes from

0:27:45.040 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 1>a place where you have to do it, you know, Matt,

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter what the funk anyone is saying. You know,

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like I still have to wake up and do it.

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>And that's what would happen. Is like it didn't matter

0:27:57.440 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 1>what anyone was saving it saying. Even though I was

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>so young, it was like, Okay, I just have to

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>because it's it's it's album. That's that's amazing, you know,

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 1>just listening to you, I've always felt like I had

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 1>like certain like you said, like when I do this,

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 1>doing this work, I didn't feel like it was a choice,

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, Like I just felt ever

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>since a kid, I always felt like I had to

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>help people. Always felt like I had to be the

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 1>one that stood up against the bullies I had. Like, oh,

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>so you just as you grow, you realize that certain

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:36.199
<v Speaker 1>things just lead you to your calling. So I'm just

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this, is that what I haven't read your

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 1>book and I'm just so like I have to read

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>it now, Like I'm just so enamored, Like I definitely

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>have to get this book. So what what is the

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>book based on? What is it? Yeah, So the book

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>is actually about yem Yeah and yemy Yea or Yema

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>She is a goddess in the Europe of Panthea and

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 1>of gods and goddess is she's a black mermaid from

0:29:02.600 --> 0:29:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Nigeria and uh. Around that same time, when I was eighteen,

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>I learned that yem A Yeah was the goddess that

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>watched over our ancestors as they went over the Middle passage.

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:20.520
<v Speaker 1>So there was a black mermaid that watched over That's

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>what That's what is said. They watched She watched over

0:29:23.560 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>us as we went over the Middle passage and watched

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>over the souls that um were either thrown overboard or

0:29:30.480 --> 0:29:35.760
<v Speaker 1>decided to jump overboard. Right. So when I learned of that,

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Okay, who is this, who is this goddess?

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:47.080
<v Speaker 1>And why don't we all know who she is? And

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>so the first time Charlemagne read the book, you know,

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>he loved it and he was like telling me about

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>it and I was like, well, you you know who

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.560
<v Speaker 1>yem A Yah is, right, and he was like, oh,

0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the main character of your book. I was like, no, no, no,

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.800
<v Speaker 1>she's a She's the goddess. And he was like, I've

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 1>never heard of her, and I was like, I bet

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>you have. I was like, have you do you remember?

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember the poem from Love Jones? M hm.

0:30:15.040 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>He's straight up like he knew the poem by heart.

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.560
<v Speaker 1>He starts saying the poem right, and then he goes,

0:30:21.560 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>are you Yem? Yeah, no, you must be o'shoon right,

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>Like he was like, oh my gosh, I've been saying

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>her name, like you know what we were saying, no

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>idea what I was what I was talking about. And

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>then and then you know, Beyonce came out with black

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>parades and her baby's sister Reppin Yem. Yeah, So it's

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:48.400
<v Speaker 1>like she's she has been here this whole time. I mean,

0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>she has been here the first written accounts of Ye

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>we're um in it's I believe the fifteen hundreds or

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>fourteen hundreds when um when the first enslaved Africans came over,

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 1>but the information was passed down orally before, so we

0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>don't even know how old along these parables have been around.

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 1>And the representation of mermaids we know are like white, redhead, blonde,

0:31:23.360 --> 0:31:25.959
<v Speaker 1>you know, like that's what we and it's all about,

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know sensuality more than spirituality, yes, yes,

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and so so when the story started coming through, um So,

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:43.520
<v Speaker 1>to your question about about the you know, the healing

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 1>that's in it, m M, I wrote, so, so there's

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>words that are written, but the intention behind it all

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>is um So, this is my love letter to black women,

0:31:57.160 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>and it is so that we remember who we really

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>we are. We were cut off from our African spirituality,

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>from our mother tongue, from all of these things as

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:12.360
<v Speaker 1>daughters and sons of the diaspora. But we if we

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:18.960
<v Speaker 1>quiet ourselves and go inside, we have that connection because

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:23.800
<v Speaker 1>we are the ancestors. You're literally made from that. And

0:32:23.880 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>so this book is my activation of that. And for

0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>me it was my healing of my ancestral wounds um

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 1>from chattel slavery and um it was. It was intense.

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>You've written a book to make a you know, you

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>know process, and so has my son, and it's you

0:32:43.720 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>have it's insanity. He's actually writing another one right now.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh so it's you know the process like it's it

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>is an emotional process. Emotional it lets you know you're

0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:02.600
<v Speaker 1>crazy because you're like, who came up with this idea?

0:33:02.880 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>And and and it takes on so many different shapes

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and forms, and you find yourself. I know that you

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:13.959
<v Speaker 1>are probably just like we are, perfectionists, like wanting to

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>get it right, wanting to make sure that the information

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>you're putting in the world is real and true and

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>true and true, which is a different thing because now

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you've got to decide between what's the old you know,

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>the folk tale that we tell in the family to

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:40.000
<v Speaker 1>make a point versus what is true? Um that will

0:33:40.040 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 1>actually you know, will will will will not just sound good,

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.239
<v Speaker 1>but will like be good, like for the soul. And

0:33:47.320 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>so that's a whole. It's a it's a lot that

0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>goes into writing, and I suggest that people do it

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>because it disciplines you, you know, it also gives you

0:33:56.760 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to learn and see yourself coming to life

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 1>within this document. And so there's so much about it,

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>but it definitely is for insane people. Jamal Hill told

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>me one day, people who write books are crazy. I said,

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>is that me? Because I've been trying to te out

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>what is it that's right? And you know this being

0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>being a musician and writing music, it's sort of always

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>like writing a book, right, because it's always when you

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:29.720
<v Speaker 1>write albums and you write songs is it's from self

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>reflections ideas that you come up and you want them

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:35.320
<v Speaker 1>to be perfect, like I find myself in the studio.

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 1>So writing the book it's just a longer elongated process

0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 1>of writing music. Like right, So I go in the

0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 1>studio and I put down lyrics and then I like,

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>this don't sound right. I gotta change this a little bit,

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:48.759
<v Speaker 1>and I don't like this beat. Let me put this

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>ad live here and you until it just sounds always perfect,

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>and then you still have critiques and you're all right,

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>we let me just I just gotta get rid of

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.839
<v Speaker 1>it because people like, look, you gotta put this out

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>right now exactly. The one the thing about music that's

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:10.960
<v Speaker 1>really amazing is that it's it's one of the the avenues,

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>or I would say channels that connect us to the divine, right,

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Like we can literally use music to connect us to

0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the divine. And so I like, I have so much

0:35:23.120 --> 0:35:25.760
<v Speaker 1>respect for anybody who knows how to do that. I

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 1>music for me is to dance to Like I can

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>dance to it, I can't sing or dance with it. Well,

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:38.200
<v Speaker 1>speaking of dancing, I would say the other thing about

0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:42.000
<v Speaker 1>finishing a book, finishing the project because people probably listen

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:45.720
<v Speaker 1>to us talk about all the emotional you know, ins

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:48.399
<v Speaker 1>and outs, and they're like, well, why the hell would

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 1>I want to do it? But I would say that

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>the finishing product is like a beautiful orgasm. That's the

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>way I saw finishing my book. I was like, this

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. Why did I have a whole bunch of

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to the sex therapists, I'm over here given my truth? Well,

0:36:14.239 --> 0:36:18.240
<v Speaker 1>that brings us to the next se true. So you

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you said that, um, you know, you deal with sexual trauma,

0:36:22.520 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 1>and I have this question that I've been wanting to

0:36:25.360 --> 0:36:31.279
<v Speaker 1>ask somebody for a long time. Would you say, and

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:34.000
<v Speaker 1>this may be on a small scale, but let me

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:37.600
<v Speaker 1>just go with me for a second, Okay, would you

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:44.839
<v Speaker 1>say that the denial of truth within sex is a

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:48.600
<v Speaker 1>part of is a trauma a form of trauma. I'll

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:53.360
<v Speaker 1>explain to you what I mean. Many women don't really

0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>experience sexual pleasure, right, A lot of women And I'm

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>well beyond that now in my life, and you know,

0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 1>in my life at this stage, but I know a

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of women who lie their way through because they

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 1>have been told that their only responsibility, or their only

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>um their role is to please don't worry about being pleased,

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:22.560
<v Speaker 1>and therefore you have to lie, faith, do whatever to

0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.880
<v Speaker 1>just get the man through it and to give yourself,

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 1>but never to actually receive the pleasure and the desire

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that you also or be able to reach your desires.

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>And what happened? And I wonder is that something that

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>we've passed down? Is it all communities? Is it some

0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>black women learned? Like what is that? Because to me

0:37:44.200 --> 0:37:47.800
<v Speaker 1>it feels like trauma when I hear so many women

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 1>say and I also have done it, you know, say,

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're faking it through just to be able

0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 1>to get the man off and let him get get

0:37:57.360 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 1>away from me. Basically, yeah, that's colonized sexuality for sure,

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:07.160
<v Speaker 1>because there you know, if you think of tantra and

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 1>even ancient Egyptian tontra, that um, it's pleasure is for

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 1>both right, and Tantras actually means the balance between the

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.800
<v Speaker 1>masculine and the feminine. And you know a lot of

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>people are like, oh, you know, it means like the

0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>different sexual positions, But that's what the meaning is, is

0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the balance between that. And when you when you study tontra,

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 1>you first work with yourself, so I I work with

0:38:39.360 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>women to be able to find pleasure themselves. And you

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>are so absolutely right. I mean, there there were so

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:49.359
<v Speaker 1>many women that I talked to who had never even

0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>experienced an orgasm, whether it was with themselves or with

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>a man, or with another woman or whatever. You know,

0:38:56.560 --> 0:39:01.879
<v Speaker 1>their their preferences and and so oh, it's it has

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 1>absolutely been passed down from uh. I would say any

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>any patriarchal society. It has been you know, like we

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>have been there to please the man, and there there

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.600
<v Speaker 1>definitely are a lot of people like waking up to it.

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.720
<v Speaker 1>But there was just last week there was this whole

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.919
<v Speaker 1>TikTok thing that went down that was like this guy

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>had asked women what does sex feel like, and that

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>all of their answers were like, oh, it's like the

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 1>itch that you can't scratch, like all these things that

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>sex is horrible to women, and we are literally here

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:50.760
<v Speaker 1>too experience pleasure like that is what we are here for,

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>and most of us run away from it. Most of

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>my life I ran away from it. I you know,

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the reason I'm even in this work is because when

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 1>I was seven and I was molested, and so most

0:40:03.680 --> 0:40:08.320
<v Speaker 1>of my adult life I was scared of pleasure because

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>for me, my experience as a child was that it

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>was very pleasurable, and the last time that it happened,

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 1>I had asked the man to do it to me,

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and so I, in my head made it my fault.

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my gosh, you know, like I

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:30.920
<v Speaker 1>like this and you know, like I can't tell anyone,

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>and like I'm asking for it now, and like it

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.839
<v Speaker 1>was just this whole confusing thing. And a part of

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>my healing was to really look at a picture of

0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>my seven year old self and I'm a baby, you

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:49.360
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Like I'm just like, okay, you know,

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I was so young. This was not my fault, you know.

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And even though we know that when we've gone through it,

0:40:56.640 --> 0:41:00.560
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to make that separation because I am a need, right,

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Like I still feel like Anita and um, but like

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>to actually look and be like, oh, yeah, I was

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a baby. I was a baby and this wasn't my fault.

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:16.800
<v Speaker 1>And that is a part of why um sexual crimes

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>are so nuanced, because even even someone who is raped

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:23.760
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, but you got wet, your body

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:27.400
<v Speaker 1>is going to make you wet to protect you. It

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean you're turned on all the time, and so

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>it's just such a nuanced um. It is, it's very nuanced.

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Just listen to it. So that's that's triumph. A lot

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>of the do you deal with men a lot of

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.800
<v Speaker 1>men or more? You probably deal more men? Or what

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 1>do you think you? I deal with more women, but

0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I've I've worked with a few men, and uh, it's

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it. I feel like for men, they have a

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>whole another thing having to deal with society. And I

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>think the work that Charlemagne is doing with the Mental

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Wealth Alliance and UM normalizing emotions, you know, hugging it

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>was there was this powerful moment at the end of

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the the Men and Mental Health panel where all the

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>men came together and gave each other a group hug.

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>And it was just so powerful to see that because

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>as as the divine feminine is rising, we're learning what

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>the divine masculine is because all of us men and

0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:51.520
<v Speaker 1>women have been I would say, victim to the the

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>the toxic masculinity, and so it's really beautiful to see

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>people who are ready to step into that right like,

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:06.439
<v Speaker 1>step into those roles and as we learn and as

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>we talk about it, sharing it because when we share,

0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know you both know this because you're

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:19.880
<v Speaker 1>always shared. No, but I'm being educated. Yeah, But as

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 1>we as we share and as we heal, we heal

0:43:24.320 --> 0:43:31.959
<v Speaker 1>so many people with us. So so when I when

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I heal my issues with um sexual molestation, and I

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 1>actually say it and speak on it right and say

0:43:44.560 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>things like at this at this one event, I spoke

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>about how, you know, my experience was pleasurable, and this

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.479
<v Speaker 1>woman walked up to me and she was like, if

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:58.919
<v Speaker 1>someone held a gun up to my head and set

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 1>asked me to admit it that when I was a child,

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 1>that my experience of sexual maliks molestation was pleasurable, I

0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>still would have said no. She's like the fact that

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:12.560
<v Speaker 1>you said that and that was her experience. But she

0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.959
<v Speaker 1>was like, I would never admit to that. And I

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>was actually only able to say that because when I

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:23.399
<v Speaker 1>was ten years old, I was watching Oprah and she

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 1>said that, and I remember I hadn't told anybody what

0:44:27.360 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>had happened to me yet, and so when Oprah said it,

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:34.400
<v Speaker 1>my whole body started sweating. I was like, Oh, everyone's

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna know she's talking about me, you know. But what

0:44:38.000 --> 0:44:43.360
<v Speaker 1>that moment did for me was like, oh, if Oprah

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:47.720
<v Speaker 1>can go through that and still be on this stage

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and still be such a support to everyone, I can

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:56.879
<v Speaker 1>keep going. I can do this. My son, You've got first.

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 1>And then I don't know, I was just sitting here thinking,

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's so any these different layers. You know,

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:05.960
<v Speaker 1>there's there's levels of molestation and men have dealt with

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>like the young boys that we've dealt with, and we

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:13.959
<v Speaker 1>never we never considered it as being molested, right, And

0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:18.320
<v Speaker 1>so when you your teacher, your teacher. Yeah, that's what

0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to say. So we had when when you

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>when you have these conversations and you were admitting, like, okay,

0:45:24.239 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>we actually liked it. And that's why. And I think

0:45:26.400 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>that was the part of that differentiated with y'all what

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>y'all described as being molested as well and what we

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:37.399
<v Speaker 1>described right, because we we felt like, exactly like you said,

0:45:37.440 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 1>we got lucky. We scored with an older woman. I

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:43.759
<v Speaker 1>was twelve and thirteen and she was like one. I

0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>was eight and nine and she was like eighteen nineteen.

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>So those things for us was things that we bragged

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>about and we talked about amongst each other, and that

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:56.600
<v Speaker 1>we never didn't think that it affected us, but we

0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>became so hyper sexual, you know, after those things like

0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 1>sex became like so focused in our mind that we

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:08.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't even realize that the trauma that that the trauma

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>that came from that, because that's every every relationship and

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 1>everything became about sex. It was that was the at

0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the forefront of everything. You know, we never really realized

0:46:19.719 --> 0:46:22.799
<v Speaker 1>those things. So just listening to that and you and

0:46:22.840 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>you're able because I've always like I've never I've never

0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.480
<v Speaker 1>heard the interview that over did. So this is the

0:46:28.520 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 1>first time that I've ever heard somebody admit a woman

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.080
<v Speaker 1>admit that when they were being molested at a young

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 1>age that they actually enjoyed it and they wanted it

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:40.359
<v Speaker 1>and they I never you know, that was never really

0:46:40.400 --> 0:46:43.640
<v Speaker 1>something that I've actually ever heard. So that was just

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 1>enlightening just to hear that. Yeah, yeah, wow, I mean

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.560
<v Speaker 1>so let me see it here now. I just want

0:46:51.560 --> 0:46:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to ask one question. This is gonna be a debate

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:55.439
<v Speaker 1>because me and to me to have this conversation on time.

0:46:56.440 --> 0:47:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Is there such thing as toxic femininity? Yeah? Okay, well

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 1>people a lot of people don't seem to believe that

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 1>that I don't. I never disagree with you that I

0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:10.359
<v Speaker 1>think that it does exist, but I've never heard I've

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>never heard it explained or you and I had a theory.

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Because so let me just break down my theory that

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.520
<v Speaker 1>me and to me had this theory, right, and and

0:47:19.560 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I know you're probably not gonna ge me, so let

0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 1>me just give that before I said so, I believe

0:47:27.200 --> 0:47:32.840
<v Speaker 1>that masculinity and femininity in itself can't be toxic and

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:36.279
<v Speaker 1>my and just my right. I think I think that

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 1>for me that when someone masculinity is perfect, in femininity

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:47.800
<v Speaker 1>is perfect, I think that there's an excess of something

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:53.200
<v Speaker 1>else that comes into you that that's toxic. Right. I

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:56.840
<v Speaker 1>think in men right for me is what what I

0:47:56.920 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 1>realized is energy. To men and women have uh combined energy.

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:07.479
<v Speaker 1>There's a there's a masculine and in femininity in both

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>of us. I think the toxicity is when the opposite

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 1>is more dominant. Mm hmm. Right. I think for me,

0:48:15.840 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 1>when I see when I watch a lot of men

0:48:18.160 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 1>that I feel a toxic and it's not being it's

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>not being dispected, or watch women that I feel a toxic,

0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I think they exhibit more male traits than they do

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>women traits. When I see a lot of men that

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I think are toxic, I think they exhibit more women

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>traits than they do men traits. That's just that's a

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 1>observation that I've had, So I don't think either. To me,

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't think either one of those can be toxic

0:48:45.400 --> 0:48:48.160
<v Speaker 1>mascular feminity. I just think it's the opposite. I think

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:49.960
<v Speaker 1>when I see men doing things, I said, that's more

0:48:49.960 --> 0:48:53.440
<v Speaker 1>toxic femininity to me, And when I see women doing things,

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I say, that's more toxic masculinity. But the debate comes

0:48:57.320 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 1>for me, and this is what my son and I

0:48:59.120 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>always talk about, is my I believe it is his

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:12.799
<v Speaker 1>unconscious desires to associate negativity with the female side in

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:16.759
<v Speaker 1>a man, rather than to take responsibility for the fact

0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>that some manages toxic is fun period, right, but instead

0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:23.319
<v Speaker 1>to be able to say, well, now, that's because you've

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>got too much feminine energy and that feminine ship is whack,

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:30.279
<v Speaker 1>like that's what. But that's what I'm trying to say.

0:49:30.560 --> 0:49:32.799
<v Speaker 1>That you may not feel that you're saying that what

0:49:32.800 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. The reason why that can, in my opinion,

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:38.919
<v Speaker 1>is that I'm saying the same thing on the other

0:49:38.960 --> 0:49:41.760
<v Speaker 1>side about I'm not saying I'm not saying. I'm not saying,

0:49:42.000 --> 0:49:43.879
<v Speaker 1>and I'm saying, if I watched a woman I feel

0:49:43.880 --> 0:49:46.040
<v Speaker 1>like has too much masculine energy and it's coming off,

0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I be like, you're doing too much masculine. That's But

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying is that there are people who exist

0:49:52.200 --> 0:49:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Right There can be a woman who's

0:49:55.400 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 1>extremely feminine and she just argues all the time time

0:50:00.360 --> 0:50:04.080
<v Speaker 1>and just wants to fight every day and you know,

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:07.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't trust and can't lee. How does that just get

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:10.560
<v Speaker 1>associated with the main Like, I don't that that's just

0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:14.520
<v Speaker 1>the ship about the woman. And I'm not saying it's

0:50:14.600 --> 0:50:17.760
<v Speaker 1>toxic femininity because I'm not an expert in this area.

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that I wouldn't sit here and say

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:23.640
<v Speaker 1>this chick is just toxic. Every time she comes around,

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 1>she's starting problems, gossiping, you know. I'm just thinking of

0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:33.280
<v Speaker 1>things that people automatically classify with women, you know, clossip

0:50:33.400 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and going back and forth between people, starting stuff, and

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:40.640
<v Speaker 1>therefore there's fights that's happening, or she's you know, whatever,

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:43.759
<v Speaker 1>whatever those things are. I'm not gonna sit there and say, well,

0:50:43.800 --> 0:50:47.799
<v Speaker 1>that's because she's got more male traits. She just might

0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:53.200
<v Speaker 1>be dealing with some toxic feminine ship. So go ahead.

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:56.600
<v Speaker 1>I think what what what just like came up for

0:50:56.760 --> 0:51:01.760
<v Speaker 1>me from what you both are saying. Um you know, uh,

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:08.239
<v Speaker 1>my son, am I saying your name right? Perfect and awesome?

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:13.719
<v Speaker 1>When you said you don't believe that masculinity and femininity

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:17.880
<v Speaker 1>can be toxic. That actually made sense to me because

0:51:17.920 --> 0:51:25.040
<v Speaker 1>when you think about um, any element in the world, water, fire, right,

0:51:25.239 --> 0:51:31.319
<v Speaker 1>even spirit, we can't really say that they're toxic. It's

0:51:31.360 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>either right, like water, we can drink it and it

0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:38.799
<v Speaker 1>can be life for us, but it can also drown us,

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 1>right and so or fire it can warm us or

0:51:43.840 --> 0:51:46.839
<v Speaker 1>burn us, right. And so this is actually the first

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>time that I'm thinking about it in this way. So

0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 1>maybe you're right that there is not a such thing

0:51:52.080 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 1>as um masculinity or femininity being toxic. But there are

0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:06.080
<v Speaker 1>people who are super out of balance, and um you know,

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean there there are women who are are amazing,

0:52:08.960 --> 0:52:11.200
<v Speaker 1>women who are very masculine. So I don't know if

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:16.640
<v Speaker 1>it's if it's in that way, but um, it's I

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:21.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like they're just not connected to spirit. Yeah, I

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:24.080
<v Speaker 1>think it's all in how you use it. And I

0:52:24.120 --> 0:52:27.760
<v Speaker 1>hate that we have to actually wrap up. But um,

0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.719
<v Speaker 1>but I think it's all you're supposed to be, like

0:52:30.719 --> 0:52:34.359
<v Speaker 1>a two hour special man has to be, has to be.

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 1>We have so many folks that we've got to bring

0:52:37.280 --> 0:52:40.720
<v Speaker 1>back on our show. Um, and you certainly have joined

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>that crowd of those who have to come back so

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 1>we can dig deeper into things because there's a lot

0:52:47.840 --> 0:52:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that you know, I think you that most of us

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.920
<v Speaker 1>have been afraid to approach. That you are head first,

0:52:56.000 --> 0:53:01.160
<v Speaker 1>inn like a mermaid. You're and then like a mermaid.

0:53:01.760 --> 0:53:06.400
<v Speaker 1>And and I understand that it's time for us to

0:53:06.520 --> 0:53:09.680
<v Speaker 1>bring our communities along. We've been in survival mode for

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:12.400
<v Speaker 1>so long that we haven't even been able to get

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 1>to the development of so many elements of ourselves that

0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:19.839
<v Speaker 1>can make us a stronger community. And and and and

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that's not in any um, that's not any fault of

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 1>our own. But it's what white supremacy does, you know,

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and what it is and what it is and so

0:53:30.480 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I just need the first on I just want to

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:38.320
<v Speaker 1>say thank you because your time is super valuable, super valuable. Um.

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:40.040
<v Speaker 1>You know you probably said, well, no, I'm you know,

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:42.960
<v Speaker 1>love to be you understand, but I love to be here.

0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:49.640
<v Speaker 1>Should either be resting, reading, working, laughing the son, healing

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:53.360
<v Speaker 1>your own issues and needs. Um. But I want to

0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:55.560
<v Speaker 1>thank you for what you're putting out in the world.

0:53:55.719 --> 0:54:00.080
<v Speaker 1>And I'm so glad that the stars and moon and

0:54:00.200 --> 0:54:03.680
<v Speaker 1>all the things aligned that would bring you into our

0:54:03.760 --> 0:54:07.719
<v Speaker 1>lives so that we can ask these safe questions of

0:54:08.239 --> 0:54:13.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, what is toxic femininity? Masculiney doesn't exist? What

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.799
<v Speaker 1>does it mean? Because that's a real soft or a

0:54:16.880 --> 0:54:20.680
<v Speaker 1>real vulnerable discussion, if you will, within our communities that

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:23.719
<v Speaker 1>we're trying to work out, because I think this idea

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:28.000
<v Speaker 1>of toxicity in general has been used to divide us

0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:31.680
<v Speaker 1>into separating us rather than us figuring it out so

0:54:31.760 --> 0:54:34.399
<v Speaker 1>we can come closer together. To appreciate you, my son,

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:38.960
<v Speaker 1>from bringing that up today. Yes, I appreciate you, you know,

0:54:39.120 --> 0:54:42.359
<v Speaker 1>always debating and always being you know, we we don't

0:54:42.440 --> 0:54:45.799
<v Speaker 1>usually realize, you know, we just you know we we

0:54:45.800 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 1>we disagree on a lot of things, we agree on principle,

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:53.120
<v Speaker 1>we agree on our mission and we are aligned in that. So,

0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, is it dope? Is dope even being able

0:54:55.600 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 1>to converse about these things? But you, Anita, are amazing

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:01.520
<v Speaker 1>your energy. As soon as I came on I was like,

0:55:01.560 --> 0:55:04.200
<v Speaker 1>this is some some energy is here man like you.

0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:10.040
<v Speaker 1>It's some energy man, you know, so I appreciate you

0:55:10.120 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 1>continue to do what you do. I gotta get that

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:16.400
<v Speaker 1>book now because I gotta get in tune. Dollo Water Water,

0:55:17.520 --> 0:55:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Go get the book, got it because I'm going to

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:24.200
<v Speaker 1>get it. Yes, go get it. This is my publishing

0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:29.400
<v Speaker 1>published sibling from Black Privilege Publishing. Shout out to Charlemagne

0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 1>the God for bringing us together. I need a co patch.

0:55:32.239 --> 0:55:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for being with us and we aren't you

0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:47.560
<v Speaker 1>definitely going to have you back. Awesome, thank you. Wow

0:55:50.640 --> 0:55:54.279
<v Speaker 1>like wow, Like Anita is just amazing. Like as soon

0:55:54.320 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 1>as she came on the screen, the whole like you

0:55:57.719 --> 0:55:59.680
<v Speaker 1>could just feel that some people are just going to

0:55:59.680 --> 0:56:02.800
<v Speaker 1>do as you know, and just listening to her story,

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:05.840
<v Speaker 1>you can just tell that this is her calling this

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.759
<v Speaker 1>a purpose. You just feel comfortable just having a conversation

0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:11.719
<v Speaker 1>with her. You feel like everything she says is right.

0:56:11.760 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Like you're just shaking your head, like you find yourself

0:56:14.680 --> 0:56:18.840
<v Speaker 1>just engulfed in what she's doing. That's amazing. So I

0:56:19.680 --> 0:56:23.560
<v Speaker 1>don't even know it's very high energy, man, It's just

0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:29.799
<v Speaker 1>it just illuminates if center Chaz, it's anywhere near needed,

0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:32.359
<v Speaker 1>and we can probably have run of our best shows ever,

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:35.799
<v Speaker 1>you know. So I'm looking forward to what's going on

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:42.360
<v Speaker 1>with cinter Shame. That's how we are so off of

0:56:42.400 --> 0:56:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the hills of Mental Health Awareness Day ten tent, which

0:56:46.760 --> 0:56:50.239
<v Speaker 1>was just this past Sunday, UM and we know that

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Charlemagne and God hosted a mental health awareness weekend. There

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:59.800
<v Speaker 1>are many people, including our last guest, I needed Copet.

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:04.160
<v Speaker 1>You are a part of the activities that were held

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:07.920
<v Speaker 1>during this weekend, and I think we all agree that

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:12.440
<v Speaker 1>it is time for Black votes particularly to really dig

0:57:12.560 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 1>into our mental health and spiritual wellness. And so we

0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:21.680
<v Speaker 1>have been joined by another guest today, Uh, someone who

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:24.320
<v Speaker 1>were just sort of getting acquainted with and getting to

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:27.760
<v Speaker 1>learn more about what she is doing in New York,

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:31.440
<v Speaker 1>in the country and of course in the world. Uh

0:57:31.600 --> 0:57:35.200
<v Speaker 1>centenche friend Sella is her name. She is such a

0:57:35.240 --> 0:57:38.200
<v Speaker 1>beautiful name, and we're so happy to have on street

0:57:38.240 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 1>politicians this bold sister, who is a yoga instructor and

0:57:43.360 --> 0:57:47.440
<v Speaker 1>coach and the founder of the first black owned yoga

0:57:47.560 --> 0:57:52.080
<v Speaker 1>studio in Queens. She also has a new initiative called

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the Man Child Project. And we're about to learn so

0:57:55.160 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 1>much about what Center Chay does every single day in

0:57:58.640 --> 0:58:02.320
<v Speaker 1>the space of mental healing and awareness. Thank you so

0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:05.080
<v Speaker 1>much for being with us today, Sis, thank you so

0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 1>much for having me. I'm so honored to be here,

0:58:07.320 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 1>so grateful. Thank you. Yes, that name, you know, I'm

0:58:11.640 --> 0:58:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm a stiggler for names because being my name, being

0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:18.720
<v Speaker 1>my son, I didn't always love my name, like people

0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:20.720
<v Speaker 1>always messed it up. I used to get in fights

0:58:20.720 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 1>they called me my son and all type of stuff.

0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:25.320
<v Speaker 1>So I want to I want to ask you that first, like,

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.440
<v Speaker 1>did you always just love your name because it's a

0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:32.600
<v Speaker 1>dope name? Now as an adult, like, have you always

0:58:32.600 --> 0:58:37.080
<v Speaker 1>thought it was amazing? I hated it? Thank you? So

0:58:37.200 --> 0:58:40.240
<v Speaker 1>first of all, I remember, I have this distinct memory

0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:43.680
<v Speaker 1>of sitting outside the bathroom door. My mother was a

0:58:43.760 --> 0:58:46.160
<v Speaker 1>nurse and she was in the bathroom. She had just

0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:48.320
<v Speaker 1>come from work. I'll never forget it, and I was like, Mommy,

0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 1>tell me again how to spell my name, And she

0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 1>was in the bathroom and I'm outside the door and

0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:57.360
<v Speaker 1>she was like yes, and I'm I'm writing it, and

0:58:57.400 --> 0:58:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I distinctly remember it. And she would always say and

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that accent on the eat. So I appreciate your story,

0:59:04.120 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>because even though folks may say it right, oftentimes they

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 1>spell it wrong. Same like you know, seeing your name

0:59:10.560 --> 0:59:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's like, but that's not my name, you know,

0:59:13.440 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>um and all other things. Yes, yes, well let me

0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>tell you my name story. My name is Tamika. And

0:59:21.960 --> 0:59:25.360
<v Speaker 1>then the projects, everybody's name was Tamika. But I was

0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like mine, you win, and name me the blackest name

0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you could come up with. Until I read in a

0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:34.880
<v Speaker 1>book with African names that it actually means a princess,

0:59:34.920 --> 0:59:38.760
<v Speaker 1>an African princess. So we all have a story around

0:59:38.800 --> 0:59:44.800
<v Speaker 1>these names. Tamika, princess, queen all that I never even

0:59:44.800 --> 0:59:49.520
<v Speaker 1>know that, okay with it, but it's still it's still hood.

0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:56.360
<v Speaker 1>It's still Tamka. And tell us about tell us about

0:59:56.400 --> 0:59:59.520
<v Speaker 1>what it is that you do, Like, what is your expertise?

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you come through? Explain breaking down to us.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the beginning, Um, in the beginning, I was

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<v Speaker 1>an educator. I started as a classroom principle, became a dean,

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<v Speaker 1>worked my way up a system principle, then was an

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<v Speaker 1>ap in the city, and then came to the suburbs

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<v Speaker 1>and thought I landed right, like I had the parking

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<v Speaker 1>spot I had the six figures and I was good, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, tenure, you know what I mean? And then

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<v Speaker 1>I got diagnosed with PTSD, and and I knew what

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was me walking around in this abnormal

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<v Speaker 1>world not being able to process my ship, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, between the school shootings and going back into

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<v Speaker 1>my building and then there's lunch, right like you hold

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<v Speaker 1>that right, Um, that's deep, that's deep. That's deep. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that that requires a moment like I almost burst

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<v Speaker 1>out in tears just now, because that is such a

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<v Speaker 1>truth for our young people that you can be in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning time with your friends today maybe two, and

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<v Speaker 1>then another day the friend is gone, there's a shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>something happened, and the school system just goes right on

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<v Speaker 1>back to normal, or or the school shooting is in Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 1>Teachers running to your office saying I have to go.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a shooting at my kids school, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean? And and and I thought, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not in New York City anymore, right, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>verdicts are happening all over the world, right and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to act likely with my son at the bus

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<v Speaker 1>stop is normal. And one day, um, when he was

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<v Speaker 1>at the bus stop, and I parked like up the

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<v Speaker 1>hill and I just watched him because I was afraid,

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<v Speaker 1>And and he got on the bus and I went

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<v Speaker 1>to work. I think I was gonna cry. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like this, she's just not normal. We're not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to live like this. You know. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about progress supports, you know what I mean. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know is my son gonna come home on

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<v Speaker 1>that fucking school bus today? And so, you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that fueled my PTSD and and finally after my

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<v Speaker 1>father transition, I was like, you know what, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>doing this no more. I'm not gonna kill myself taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of other people's kids. I can't even feel safe

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<v Speaker 1>about my old life, let alone my son. And I

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<v Speaker 1>left to end. I opened up a yoga studio in

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<v Speaker 1>South Queens and it was, as my understanding, little did

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<v Speaker 1>I know at the time, the first black owned yoga

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<v Speaker 1>studio in South Jamaica, Queens, with which was it's my

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<v Speaker 1>old stomping ground, That's where I grew up. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I opened up the yoga studio. Then the studio transition,

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<v Speaker 1>and then COVID happened, and then it's like the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you know what I mean, like, now what

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<v Speaker 1>do I do? I have no pension, I have no tenure,

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<v Speaker 1>and and everything stopped and and then everything hit me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I was having physical reactions to all

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<v Speaker 1>the stress that I have been carrying, all the stress

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<v Speaker 1>we all have been carrying, individually and collectively. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I had to do something. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lose it. And I struggled with I'm a mom.

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<v Speaker 1>My son is now nineteen, and I struggled with the

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<v Speaker 1>story that I felt wasn't in between, the in between

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<v Speaker 1>between so much tragedy and struggle and success and excellence

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<v Speaker 1>and being an educator. You know, my kids came back.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yo, miss, I took the stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the sanitation tests, and I got the job, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I went into law enforcement, or I'm going into the military.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I got married. These are my kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And now I'm doing this thing and I'm doing that thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of these seemingly ordinary stories that were untold,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just wanted my son to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>scroll through the internet and see ordinary greatness, which is

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<v Speaker 1>to be extraordinary ship, you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 1>I and it wasn't there, So I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it. So I called some friends and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, let's just do this man Shop project.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was called the man Shop project because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he was when he was born. His name is Judah.

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<v Speaker 1>He came out with a two fist, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And I was like, Okay, he's the man child.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what he did. And and we just reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to a couple of friends and was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 1>just share your excellent story, Like if it's ordinary, it's extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you here? Like are you kidding me? You

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<v Speaker 1>brush your tea today? You win in my nigga you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I watch you ask because it be is like that

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and I really wanted to just create space to

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<v Speaker 1>just celebrate that and see it regularly, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like I had this vision like when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you looked up hashtag black excellence, like all you

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<v Speaker 1>saw was like a million black man Like motherfucker's would

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<v Speaker 1>just have to just put the phone down because they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't stop scrolling, you know what I mean? Like that

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<v Speaker 1>ship that's what I wanted. Just sell Britton a black

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<v Speaker 1>man for being a black man. No particular accolades, just

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<v Speaker 1>being black and alive. Yeah, and and thinking about life

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<v Speaker 1>and thinking about not thinking about life like you here,

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<v Speaker 1>like what is your story, sir? Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for Sharon. What are your dreams? Sir? Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for Sharon. Mm hmm. Wow. It's a lot of process.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I'm uh daughter of a black man. My, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I have black brothers, I have you know, my black uncles. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I've worked with many black men, and then i have

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<v Speaker 1>a black son, and of course I've had black men

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<v Speaker 1>as my partners. And I feel like my whole life

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<v Speaker 1>is about black men. A lot of people don't think that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there are people who just because I dare

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<v Speaker 1>to speak to the power of black women and or

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<v Speaker 1>talk about our issues, and of course to speak about

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<v Speaker 1>what black men do to harm us, because we are

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<v Speaker 1>harmed oftentimes by the people who are closest to us,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes folks say, oh, you know, you're you're a

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<v Speaker 1>male basher. But the truth is, I spend probably eighty

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<v Speaker 1>percent of my life focused on the needs of black

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<v Speaker 1>men because I believe that the strength of the black

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<v Speaker 1>man is the strength of our families. Um, and so

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<v Speaker 1>listening to what you're saying, I feel like that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what we need to be doing more of, which is

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<v Speaker 1>to pour into black men because they are not enough

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<v Speaker 1>spaces where black men are not just celebrated, but that

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<v Speaker 1>they can just be themselves without having to put on

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<v Speaker 1>for the world. There's not enough spaces. And if I

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<v Speaker 1>could just you know, make an offering to that comment,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, part of the mental health piece, especially, let

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<v Speaker 1>me make an eye statement. The struggle that I had

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<v Speaker 1>that I was also working through is that the both

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<v Speaker 1>are true, right, Like I and a daddy's girl was

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<v Speaker 1>a daddy's girl, you know what I mean. And I

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<v Speaker 1>love my father beyond words. There are no utterances, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. And he was profoundly abusive. Both

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<v Speaker 1>were true, you know what I mean. And and I

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<v Speaker 1>would want him a part of the project. I would

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<v Speaker 1>want to have shared his story, him to share his story,

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<v Speaker 1>because oftentimes that's the struggle, like thinking that it has

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<v Speaker 1>to be one or the other, you know what I mean. Like, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>I can celebrate you and you can go heal that ship.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can celebrate me, and I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>heal that ship, right and not waiting for this point

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<v Speaker 1>of arrival before before I celebrate them, before we celebrate

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<v Speaker 1>them because the moment is now the moment. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>this one of episodes that you got me here thinking

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<v Speaker 1>too much. I don't need to think this much. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot, you know, just listening. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been watching Charlottagne along this mental health thing. He's been

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<v Speaker 1>very intentional, but he's somebody that you know, I respect,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see it's a good friend. So I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to it. But today just listening to my black sisters

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<v Speaker 1>just talk about it in a different light. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it tapped in a little more, you know. So what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think we need to do to close this

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<v Speaker 1>wellness gap? What? Like, what is the wellness gap? To you?

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? So the Healing Station was created to

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<v Speaker 1>really bridge the gap between what we know and what

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<v Speaker 1>we think we know and then what else is out there? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're not from here, Like that's really the premise.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not from here. This is not our native tongue,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not wearing our native clothes, we don't have our

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<v Speaker 1>native smells, and there is a genuine energetic disconnect we

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<v Speaker 1>on occupied territory. All of that ship impacts our nervous system,

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<v Speaker 1>it really really does, right, And so the Healing Station

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<v Speaker 1>is about honoring indigenous Black culture, people of culture, right,

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<v Speaker 1>honoring that, and then closing the wellness gap by sharing

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<v Speaker 1>information through trainings, through workshops about what it is our

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<v Speaker 1>people actually did. So we look at what what some

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<v Speaker 1>may call alternative medicine or alternative forms of treatment, but

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<v Speaker 1>we take that ship back. It's not alternative. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>quite natural and it's an option. Right, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>take prozac, but guess what, you can use a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of hie, right, you know what I mean? Like you

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<v Speaker 1>want to hold your crystal to get your piece, you

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<v Speaker 1>could do that. You can take a tablet, you can

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<v Speaker 1>walk barefoot, you can go for a hike. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. You can't go see that psychiatrist. But

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<v Speaker 1>really giving access to information to persons of color, to

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<v Speaker 1>persons of culture, so that we can heal ourselves, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the other piece is offering scholarship, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>for the different trainings that we offer or different trainings

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<v Speaker 1>within the wellness community, so that people of color can

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<v Speaker 1>have those careers. Right, like a ralfer, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys have you ever heard what we're all

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<v Speaker 1>think about ralphing no tea, so raw it's amazing. So

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<v Speaker 1>rawling is an energy uh and energy working right, So

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<v Speaker 1>you heard of m acupuncture of course, right, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not similar. But just pull back a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>and you're talking about energy and how energy moves through

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<v Speaker 1>the body and raw thing helps move energy through the

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<v Speaker 1>body by by pressing into the deeper tissues, into the

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<v Speaker 1>fascia and literally literally you can heal trauma out of

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<v Speaker 1>the body. Literally you wake up different. Ralph, First, make

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere between a hundred seventy five to three hundred fifty

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<v Speaker 1>for an hour to a ninety minute session. What would

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<v Speaker 1>a ralf what would a training look like from a

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<v Speaker 1>brother that got released or s just that I got released.

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<v Speaker 1>But they could go through that six month nine month

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<v Speaker 1>training and take that ship right back conto their community

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<v Speaker 1>and have their own wellness. That do you see what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying? That's that ship Because the wellness industry is

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<v Speaker 1>our industry. Because we're paying other people to get ourselves well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we just go ahead and flood the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>ship heal our own selves and in our own communities.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about this you said you could use prozac or

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<v Speaker 1>you could use something else. Hill right, give it again, please? Hi? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's power like a piece of crystal. It's it's um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like um. It used to be called it's also

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<v Speaker 1>called fools gold. And you know it's just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a crystal. I mean crystals, you know, um amesist and

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<v Speaker 1>rose um rose courts and clear sports. All of those

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<v Speaker 1>crystals have energy and in some wellness spaces, right, that

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<v Speaker 1>is an available tool to use as well. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about wellness, it's really about what do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to prescribe for yourself? Like that's my work

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<v Speaker 1>when I have my private practice. You know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>here to tell you what to do. We're here to

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<v Speaker 1>co create your users manual and you figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>works for you. And that's what we put in together.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that your wellness is your own. This is

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<v Speaker 1>your tool kit and and you and you do the

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<v Speaker 1>work and you hear your own selves because we can't,

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<v Speaker 1>we really really can't. Wow, you're all about well you said,

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<v Speaker 1>co creating a toolkit. Uh. So there may be someone

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<v Speaker 1>who feels they need a tablet, but there are others

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<v Speaker 1>who may feel like I don't want to put those

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<v Speaker 1>things into my body, and therefore there may be other

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<v Speaker 1>ways to go about helping to stabilize, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your mind. Like so, for instance, with me, being on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane can be very very very stressful. I UM,

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<v Speaker 1>at one point in my life was a serious pill popper,

1:12:50.600 --> 1:12:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and I had addiction issues. UM you know, when to

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<v Speaker 1>rehab did a lot. And so I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>to the point that I take as little pills as possible,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the way that I was actually raised. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And so listen hearing you say that there may be

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<v Speaker 1>other things that I can do other than having to

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<v Speaker 1>take a pill at the onset of a flight to

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<v Speaker 1>help deal with my anxiety issues. That's so powerful. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can imagine that there are black folks that don't

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<v Speaker 1>have access to these conversations and don't have access to medication,

1:13:27.000 --> 1:13:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and they're just like all over the place, call them crazy.

1:13:32.080 --> 1:13:34.880
<v Speaker 1>And you could do a breathwork in your chair on

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<v Speaker 1>a yoga map for ten minutes and reset your whole

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<v Speaker 1>nervous system, like the whole thing. Yeah, they say breathing right,

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<v Speaker 1>but this it's technique right, and but but we can

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<v Speaker 1>do it, and that's what the healing station. Does you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just we just teach folks like here's the information,

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<v Speaker 1>here's where you could get more information on the information, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which is also the other thing, right, like building our

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<v Speaker 1>own knowledge. Right. So it's not because since that it's

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<v Speaker 1>because you experienced it. It's because you know, that's just

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<v Speaker 1>the experience to that brother experienced it. And that's how

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<v Speaker 1>we each one pool one and I always walking side

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<v Speaker 1>each one pool one. So can you just what are conductors? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm a New Yorker, um, and I felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a big girl with my mom let me take the

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<v Speaker 1>train up time for the first time, right and um,

1:14:22.600 --> 1:14:25.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, first generation Jamaica, Jamaican parents will let you

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<v Speaker 1>go nowhere. So the fact that my mom's let me

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<v Speaker 1>go on the train by myself and then let me

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<v Speaker 1>go to Hallam, I was a woman. You're doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot what so you know, just just the New York

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<v Speaker 1>City transit system, all of it is just magic to

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<v Speaker 1>me because I never understood it. Right. I took the

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<v Speaker 1>F train to the E train and that was it,

1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:45.360
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? And I always thought that

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<v Speaker 1>the transit system was confusing to me. And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>who kind of inspired even the logo just letting wellness

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<v Speaker 1>be a simple stop. Just come to the wellness station

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<v Speaker 1>and get what you need. And so the conductors was

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<v Speaker 1>real of course, UM inspired by Harriet Tubman because I

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<v Speaker 1>do live on a path on the underground railroad, so

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<v Speaker 1>she is always, uh always with me, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>felt appropriate because it's project based. So as a conductor,

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<v Speaker 1>you come, you help lead the project, you get it

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<v Speaker 1>to where it needs to go, and if it's something

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to continue to work on, you have

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<v Speaker 1>that space to do so, and if it's not, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all good. But it gives people space to come in,

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<v Speaker 1>to serve, to leave um, because we're energetic beings and

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<v Speaker 1>nothing is supposed to be forever, you know, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this project can be medicine for some people

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<v Speaker 1>and they want to step away, and so conductors have

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<v Speaker 1>the space to kind of work until they feel nourished

1:15:41.439 --> 1:15:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and then do what they need to do. Well. You

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<v Speaker 1>certainly are a change maker. We have a SEGMENTUM every

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<v Speaker 1>week where we talk to people who are making a

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<v Speaker 1>difference in our society and everything that I hear you

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<v Speaker 1>saying is all about change making, UM, and specifically for

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<v Speaker 1>our people and our coach, So how do you how

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<v Speaker 1>can people help you to do more of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing and and to to really broaden even your reach

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<v Speaker 1>within our community, especially to our young people and of

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<v Speaker 1>course again looking at the idea of specifically targeting our men.

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<v Speaker 1>Great question. Well hmmm, I think mm hmm. The best

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<v Speaker 1>way folks can support the work is is twofold one.

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<v Speaker 1>There is always donations, right UM, going to the healing

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<v Speaker 1>station and why dot org and making a donation so

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<v Speaker 1>that we can increase our scholarship program. We UM started

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<v Speaker 1>our first let's go back, so the healing station dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>The healing station, the healing station and why dot org?

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<v Speaker 1>Healing station and why dot org? Thank you? UM. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's donations so that we can increase our scholarship program. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>The vision was to always have one in and one out,

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<v Speaker 1>so I meaning one UM, one full paid script person

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<v Speaker 1>and then a full scholarship person UM and we did that.

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<v Speaker 1>We have six cohort members for our Trauma Informed BIPOC

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<v Speaker 1>Yoga teacher training and UM women from all over the

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<v Speaker 1>country are doing a trauma informed yogic approach so that

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<v Speaker 1>they can hold space for their own bodies and hold

1:17:18.200 --> 1:17:20.799
<v Speaker 1>space for the community, UM when they do this work

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<v Speaker 1>and also UM copying us, modeling us like start your

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<v Speaker 1>own man child projects, start your own teacher training, start

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<v Speaker 1>your own movement training, UM, start your own healing circles

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<v Speaker 1>like just you you like the idea, then go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and do that too, you know. UM, it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>direct sales of healing, you know, like steal it all,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take it. It's it's there for the healing, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the only way that we're gonna heal when

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<v Speaker 1>we do it ourselves and when we do it in community.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that nice giving you it. Well, I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, you know, we really want to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for the work you do and and the way you

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<v Speaker 1>make it plain like you know what I'm saying, You're relatable,

1:18:04.360 --> 1:18:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Like that's what I love about I love about everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I love about us as black people, Like we're able

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<v Speaker 1>to break some because I've heard a lot of Europeans

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<v Speaker 1>talk about mental health and I've never really felt connected.

1:18:17.280 --> 1:18:20.479
<v Speaker 1>But just listen to you talk. It sounds like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that's from my block, you know, breaking it down to

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<v Speaker 1>me and making me feel like this is for us,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that we need to be involved, and

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to lose our culture. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be stiff. We can have the same hip hop culture.

1:18:34.600 --> 1:18:36.400
<v Speaker 1>We can talk like we want to talk, look like

1:18:36.439 --> 1:18:39.080
<v Speaker 1>we want to look. We can have dope names that

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<v Speaker 1>nobody can pronounce. We're young three degrees, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. And we can just be dope man, and

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<v Speaker 1>we can we can be fabulous and brilliant at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time. So I just and hell we are. We

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<v Speaker 1>are fabulous, we are healed, we all go, we are

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<v Speaker 1>all those things for being with us today. We appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you for all that you've been parted on us and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly you are a friend at Street Politicians. Anything that

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<v Speaker 1>we can do to be of assistance to you, this

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<v Speaker 1>is your home. I appreciate. Thank you so much. Many

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<v Speaker 1>blessings are Look, these interviews were so amazing today, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I've learned so much, and and the thing about it

1:19:29.280 --> 1:19:34.400
<v Speaker 1>was too completely different personalities and energies, but they both

1:19:34.680 --> 1:19:37.680
<v Speaker 1>gave you that feeling like you wanted to talk to them.

1:19:37.800 --> 1:19:40.240
<v Speaker 1>M M. You know what I'm saying. You both you

1:19:40.280 --> 1:19:42.759
<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to Nita was just amazing. Her whole

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<v Speaker 1>energy just she seemed like a healer. Like she seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like she was actually literally born to do this work.

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<v Speaker 1>Just just everything about her and the way she just

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<v Speaker 1>communicated just make you feel comfortable talking to her. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I found myself like like we could that maybe she

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<v Speaker 1>could help to process some of the confusion and concerns

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<v Speaker 1>that we have about just the world. Like me, I

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<v Speaker 1>really do. And I like say, he just found like

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<v Speaker 1>the girl from the block to all the stuff. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, that break it down to you,

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<v Speaker 1>And like, okay, that's what they were saying. You know

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<v Speaker 1>all the stuff, you knew, all the stuff, and she

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<v Speaker 1>just broke it down to and she and she brought

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<v Speaker 1>it back to the hood and gave it to the

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<v Speaker 1>hood the way that they can receive it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many different entry points and all of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, serve a real purpose. Man, And that brings

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<v Speaker 1>me with black people, you know, we have we need

1:20:46.560 --> 1:20:51.080
<v Speaker 1>lots of different ways to capture our attention when you

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<v Speaker 1>start talking about healing, because we run away from that.

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<v Speaker 1>Other communities and particularly the white community, white society, if

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<v Speaker 1>you will, Um, they really have adopted the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>self care and healing and it's not something that black

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<v Speaker 1>people have been taught and or and I guess the

1:21:15.080 --> 1:21:19.160
<v Speaker 1>stigma of it is on us. But we're starting to

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<v Speaker 1>break it down. You're starting to hear more men talking

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<v Speaker 1>about going to therapy, and I think you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>your point, the work that Charlemagne is doing today, it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like, Okay, this is something cool. He's our friend

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<v Speaker 1>and it's cool. But later in life he's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>deep deepoc chopra sort of uh, what do you call it? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>There will be people that will remember him, that's the word.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be one of the um. He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the innovatives of mentor better culture. That's yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that brings me to our So it's I had

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<v Speaker 1>like a two prong I don't get it because that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of it that I just don't get why

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<v Speaker 1>and how we've allowed ourselves to separate from mental health

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<v Speaker 1>for so long, to not acknowledge mental health, just not

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that we actually deal like we we of all people,

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<v Speaker 1>should know that we're dealing with mental health issues, right

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<v Speaker 1>because all of the things that we've dealt with throughout history.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way that we can be a hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>saying it is impossible, impossible, you know, and just listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Just over the last few months, I've been taking the

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<v Speaker 1>time to just assess myself, you know, just listening and

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<v Speaker 1>then saying, damn, I never even knew that was trumpa.

1:22:50.160 --> 1:22:53.559
<v Speaker 1>I never even knew that. I just felt I had

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<v Speaker 1>to be strong, I had to go through it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. I'm always good. And I never really identical

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<v Speaker 1>five with just what I went through in prison, what

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<v Speaker 1>I went through and solitary confinement, what I went through

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<v Speaker 1>the process to get to prison, what I went through

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<v Speaker 1>coming home from prison, trying to you know, rebuild life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so many different This is my childhood and things

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<v Speaker 1>I went through, and my family just understanding those things

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<v Speaker 1>now and seeing, damn, I really have to have some

1:23:24.280 --> 1:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>level of mental health issues, and you know, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the things, like how I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>get how we've we've allowed ourselves to not understand that

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<v Speaker 1>for so long. And I'm glad that we get into

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<v Speaker 1>where it's becoming something that you know, is um focused

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<v Speaker 1>upon in our communities and in our culture right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really just was really confused, like, damn, we

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<v Speaker 1>should have been got this. You know, And then the

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<v Speaker 1>second thing was something that you said, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's and it's a thing, and and and I also

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<v Speaker 1>and it goes along with the same thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get how we've allowed ourselves as black men and black

1:24:05.560 --> 1:24:11.559
<v Speaker 1>women to be divided by our enemy. Right, there are

1:24:11.640 --> 1:24:17.519
<v Speaker 1>people who focus on certain things and and different different things.

1:24:17.520 --> 1:24:21.320
<v Speaker 1>It's not even different things like how are we allowing

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that a black woman wants to speak up

1:24:25.160 --> 1:24:29.720
<v Speaker 1>about black women issues make men feel like it threatens

1:24:29.840 --> 1:24:34.400
<v Speaker 1>our existence, right, and and vice versus sometimes so it

1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:38.400
<v Speaker 1>goes both ways. I don't even understand how those things

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<v Speaker 1>or even a problem, right, Like, I don't even understand

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<v Speaker 1>how we can't see that. You know, we we all

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the same exact problems. We're dealing with the

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<v Speaker 1>same struggles. We're in the same communities dealing with everything, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>how are we allowing ourselves to be divided by the

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<v Speaker 1>same things that's tearing each of us part individually? How

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<v Speaker 1>do we don't see that those are things that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to unify. How do we don't see that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>a black woman sees that something is harming her, something

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<v Speaker 1>is detrimental to her, she speaks up about it that

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<v Speaker 1>our job as black men is to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>that right there, that she's safe in that space, right

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<v Speaker 1>and and vice versa. When black men say here, we

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<v Speaker 1>feel this way, why do why is there this level

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<v Speaker 1>of just like tugger war, You know, I just really

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<v Speaker 1>don't get it. You know what. I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>for another show, right to talk about the debt of

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<v Speaker 1>all of the things that we are experiencing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is if this show and it's of itself is

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<v Speaker 1>not um we need many different types of people to

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<v Speaker 1>help us understand the backlash, if you will, and sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like the residue of of being enslaved and what

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<v Speaker 1>that has done to our people, our communities, our minds,

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<v Speaker 1>our culture, um our relationship between the man and woman.

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<v Speaker 1>None of this that you're expressing is by chance. All

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<v Speaker 1>of it is a part of a design. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>we are mentally whole, if we have a sense of stability,

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<v Speaker 1>if we have unity in terms of our understanding of um,

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<v Speaker 1>of of of what has happened to us and where

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<v Speaker 1>we need to go and how we need to operate

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<v Speaker 1>in order to go forward, if we can stop and

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<v Speaker 1>listen to one another and respect our individual issues and

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<v Speaker 1>then the collective need for work and reconciliation. And we

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<v Speaker 1>can do all of that, we would be the most powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say entity. Perhaps being black is an

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<v Speaker 1>entity of thing um in our society, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>forces that know it. They know it, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>our music, um, you know, it keeps the The things

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<v Speaker 1>that celebrated about our music are things that keeps us

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<v Speaker 1>dumb down. Um. You know, our schools, the way that

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<v Speaker 1>we're educated, the way that our communities are designed. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been done that way because there is a force that

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<v Speaker 1>understands the power of this thing that's on our skin,

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<v Speaker 1>this melanin, this this this color um that other people

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<v Speaker 1>do not have, and so you know it is it's

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<v Speaker 1>always for me fascinating when we try to hone in

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<v Speaker 1>and and begin to focus on our differences not from

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<v Speaker 1>a place of difference, but from a place of love.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's why. But it takes people who

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<v Speaker 1>are bold, like Anita, like censorship, to step out and

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm gonna start the process no matter whether you

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<v Speaker 1>know when when you hear Anita saying I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>heard voices and my mother affirmed me rather than made

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<v Speaker 1>me feel guilty or negative. Wow, like what that would

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<v Speaker 1>be like for so many young black girls and boys

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<v Speaker 1>who have a talent that their parents feed it rather

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<v Speaker 1>than tear it apart because they don't understand it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I think. That's an amazing thought. I share those sentiments,

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<v Speaker 1>which is rare. You know, we usually don't agree. We

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<v Speaker 1>do agree a lot more than we don't. No, more

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<v Speaker 1>than we don't you know lately, but you know, process

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<v Speaker 1>so much bullshit we're dealing with you, I think. I

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<v Speaker 1>think also we've agreed that there are certain things that

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<v Speaker 1>we should just not even deal with. So therefore we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have those issues and we don't agree with We

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<v Speaker 1>found the ship we're on and we lead the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of you along. And with that said, we come to

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<v Speaker 1>another And with that said, we've come to the end

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