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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're hoping

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Speaker 1: our Boston marathoners. Today it's Monday, April twentieth, and on

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Speaker 1: today's show, senior writer for The Athletic Chantel Jennings joins

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Speaker 1: me to talk about the biggest WNBA storylines as training

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Speaker 1: camps get underway, how new CBA provisions like epic contracts

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Speaker 1: and developmental player spots will change the league, Which draft

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Speaker 1: picks seem best set up for success in their new cities,

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Speaker 1: and which rookies might have trouble sticking. Plus back to back,

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Speaker 1: back to back chips not winning fast enough, and if

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Speaker 1: there's snow on the pitch playball It's all coming up

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Speaker 1: right after this welcome back slices, here's what you need

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Speaker 1: to know today. Let's start with volleyball. Love Austin claimed

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Speaker 1: its second straight Love Championship Saturday night, defeating Love Salt Lake.

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Speaker 1: Salt Lake won match one on Friday, a five set thriller,

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Speaker 1: Austin has now won back to back championships in the

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Speaker 1: first two seasons of the league. Madison Skinner was named

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Speaker 1: Skinner has won five championships in six years, now three

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Speaker 1: in the NC DOUBLEA twenty twenty with Kentucky, twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: back titles with Love to Gymnastics. Oklahoma won its second

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Speaker 1: five years. It all came down to the final routine,

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Speaker 1: Two days earlier, individual titles were handed out, with Oklahoma's

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Speaker 1: Faith Torres winning the all around despite not competing in

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Speaker 1: a previous all around. All season long, Torres Senior had

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Speaker 1: It was the second NCUBA floor exercise title for Chiles

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Speaker 1: Chiles also won the AAI Award, given to the NCAA's

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Speaker 1: Snow blanketed the pitch in Commerce City, Colorado, just hours

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Speaker 1: Kennedy Wesley assisted the first goal of the game, a

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Speaker 1: sixty fourth with her first international goal. To the WNBA

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Speaker 1: training camp started on Sunday, with all fifteen teams looking

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Speaker 1: Each team can have up to eighteen players at training camp,

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Speaker 1: and most but not all do. Shout out to front

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Speaker 1: us to the fact that the Las Vegas Aces are

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Speaker 1: crossovers like the Seattle Storm draftees including Flage Johnson reading

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Speaker 1: out for producer Bianca in the final few miles of

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Speaker 1: Hopefully, yeah how are we seeing some of the intricacies

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Speaker 1: Instance Aliah Austen's max record, contract biggest, dollars bigger than,

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Speaker 2: That, yeah, well we can't talk About aliyah's contract extension

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Speaker 2: without using THE wnba sanctioned, acronym can we THE?

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Speaker 1: Epic?

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Speaker 2: Acronym but, yeah it's basically.

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Speaker 1: We tell us the. Acronym it's so.

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Speaker 2: It's exceptional performance on initial CONTRACT. Epic it's a very

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Speaker 2: good thing BECAUSE i think what it does is it

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Speaker 2: because you, know if she waits another, year if she,

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Speaker 2: well it doesn't. Matter, now the rookie scale contracts from

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Speaker 2: THE cba recording that we've, done but we're seeing more

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Speaker 2: as is THE epic. Provision are there others available to

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Speaker 2: get the epic this? Year, no next, Year Caitlin clark

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Speaker 1: Too speaking of players coming in and players that might

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Speaker 1: do something great this, year every year we've sort of

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Speaker 2: rice going To toronto working With Sandy. Browndello sandy was

429
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,239
Speaker 2: a shooting, guard not a point guard, specifically but like,

430
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 2: one you, know ONE wnba titles with two different, franchises

431
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 2: has international, experience like has experience in this league and

432
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: you go there as a rookie in this new, environment

433
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 2: new level of, play and to have someone Like sandy

434
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 2: as your coach feels like just such a Great, fitkiky

435
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,439
Speaker 2: and sort of Similarly Olivia miles In minnesota WHERE i

436
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: think there are minutes to be, had but it's like

437
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: you're working With Lindsay, whalen who brought four titles to this,

438
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: city you, know between twenty eleven and, Seventeen, like is

439
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,199
Speaker 2: there a better position for a rookie to be. IN

440
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: i was At olivia's introductory press conference and there are

441
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: multiple instances where she's, Like, lindsay you're gonna get sick of.

442
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 2: Me we're going to be in the film room so.

443
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: Much AND i was like watching your old highlights and,

444
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: stuff and it was, like you, KNOW i would love

445
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 2: to sit in on one of those film sessions to

446
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: sort of hear them go back and forth about what

447
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 2: they're seeing in different. Situations but you think Of olivia

448
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: making the jump to this level and like to have

449
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,719
Speaker 2: not Just Cheryl, reeve but to Have Lindsay.

450
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: WHALEN i was gonna, say because mostly we're talking About

451
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: cheryl and her working On olivia's defense and really getting

452
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 1: her to dig in, there but hadn't thought as much

453
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 1: About Lindsay whalen's ability all the best out of. Her,

454
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 1: yeah that is a great, situation to be. Sure you.

455
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: Know we got a great question about international draftees from a.

456
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 1: Listener ti g, asked why declare for THE wnba draft

457
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: and then sit out a? Year why not just wait

458
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: until next year to declare for the? Draft is there

459
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: an advantage to this on the fan, side it's a

460
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 1: big letdown to see someone get drafted high and then

461
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 1: told they're not playing this year at, all AND i

462
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: didn't have a good.

463
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: Answer so you don't really declare as an international. Player

464
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 2: you just once you turn twenty year eligible and you,

465
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: KNOW gms can draft. You and so it's more of

466
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: a situation of and that behind the scenes and before

467
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: the draft, happens there are conversations that are. ONGOING i

468
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 2: don't think you, know these international players are just waking

469
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: up one morning being, like, oh THE wnba draft happened last.

470
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 2: Night like there are conversations happening between their representation and,

471
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 2: gms because if a team is taking an international, player

472
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 2: like they want to make sure that CITY x is

473
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 2: a place of this person would actually want to. Go

474
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: AND i do, think you, know increased, salaries better, facilities

475
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: these are two things that international prospects are going to

476
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 2: find a lot more attractive about THE wnba now rather

477
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: than LIKE i could make sixty five thousand dollars OR

478
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: i could have my summer, off you, know like when

479
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: they're Making european. Money that's that wasn't always you, know

480
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: what they wanted to, do but now it's, like, OH

481
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 2: i could you, know even the minimums to seventy AND

482
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: i can go and have this really professional experience and so,

483
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: yeah so it's just that teams can like pick up

484
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: their rights, Essentially and so you have players Like awa

485
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 2: fam who were at the draft right those are players

486
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 2: you expect to see right away in THE, wnba but

487
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: like further down the draft board in previous years as.

488
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: Well you, know it's more that these teams maybe don't

489
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,360
Speaker 2: need that player right, now but believe in their, potential

490
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: someone like A Leoni phoebich or someone like A Juliet,

491
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 2: alman like you draft them and then maybe three four

492
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: years later is sort of when it's the right time

493
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 2: for both you and them as A gm or as

494
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: a franchise to come over and sort of try to

495
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,879
Speaker 2: make this. Work, also with international play and sort of you,

496
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: know national teams and all of, that there are, those you,

497
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 2: know parts of their schedules as well as international players

498
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: that can affect their availability for a, season and not

499
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 2: EVERY gm wants to deal with.

500
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: That some.

501
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: Do we saw that with a lot of teams last year,

502
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: obviously but like not EVERY gm wants to deal with

503
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: that or sort of be piecing together. Things and, again

504
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: maybe this is a place where the developmental roster spots

505
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: where you can pull those players in during international player

506
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: or something if someone has a national team, commitment easier

507
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,959
Speaker 2: to backfill those spots now than it was even a year.

508
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: Ago, yeah it's. INTERESTING i guess you take a risk

509
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: with anyone you, draft but if you have a collegiate

510
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,239
Speaker 1: player declaring for the draft and then you draft, them

511
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: the expectation is that they're going to play for you right.

512
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: Away with the international it does feel like the idea

513
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: of drafting someone knowing that they're going to be a

514
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: stash for even just a, year leaves a lot that

515
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: can happen in that year and also prevents you from

516
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: taking another instant immediate. Player so it's a strategy, choice

517
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: to be. Sure and you, know perhaps that strategy will

518
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: change a little bit now that teams can carry those

519
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: developmental players and there's more roster, spots so that maybe

520
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: they don't feel like there is strapped to only have

521
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: players that can contribute immediately sitting on their. Bench, okay

522
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: SO i know that rosters are still coming. Together before

523
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 1: we even get to, THIS i have to ask if

524
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: you have any strong opinions On Natasha cloud And Tina

525
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: charles or anyone else that's floating out there that hasn't

526
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: hit a roster.

527
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 2: Yet it's hard to, like look at everything is happening so, fast,

528
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: Right like that is what we've been talking about with

529
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: like this ENTIRE cba. PROCESS i feel like my head

530
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: has just been like on a swivel trying to catch

531
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 2: up all the. Time and it's like you're, Wondering, okay

532
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 2: here's all these different moving, pieces and then you See

533
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: phoenix signing like forty seven thousand players to training camp,

534
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,239
Speaker 2: contracts and then you're like trying to get inside their,

535
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: head like what are you? Doing what does it?

536
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: Mean what's the plan?

537
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: HERE i it's one of those things Where i'm not

538
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: really sure what's going to. HAPPEN i think all these

539
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: teams are still sort of coming into. Focus you were still,

540
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 2: like up until this past, weekend we were waiting to

541
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: see what those contracts looked like for some of the

542
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: biggest names in the, league whether that Was stewie Or.

543
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: FEE i think a lot of people assumed coming into

544
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: it like that those would be the first pieces to

545
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 2: settle within the new salary, conversation Like asia was going

546
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: to be the first one to sign even though we

547
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: sort of had reporting of her contract before like everything,

548
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: opened or like you, Know stewie Fee, Asia LIKE i

549
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 2: think a lot of people thought those would be the

550
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: first people to, sign because it's like they're what who

551
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: you're building, around, right and then you'll fill in all

552
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 2: the other. Pieces but it was kind of Like we're

553
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 2: seeing it different, everywhere and So i'm not really sure

554
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 2: how things are going to shake out for all of those,

555
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: players and frankly for some of these teams in the,

556
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: league where you, KNOW i think like we have a

557
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: good idea of who the aces, are we have a

558
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: good idea of who the dream are because of like

559
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 2: how their rosters have come, together who they, retained and

560
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 2: how the money has already been. Allotted but like there's

561
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: other places where it's like there's a little more wiggle,

562
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: room and you wonder sort of the direction of what

563
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: those franchises are going to do.

564
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: Well AND i haven't seen any reporting on, this BUT

565
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: i wonder If Natasha cloud thought she'd be going back

566
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: To New york as they were trying to figure out

567
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: all the other, contracts she expected certain amount that wasn't,

568
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: there decided to go looking and teams hadn't accounted for

569
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: her or made space for. Her maybe what she's asking

570
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: is and what other teams see for. Her i've seen

571
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: Some i'm not going to say reporting it's on websites

572
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: that aren't straight up women's sports, websites or journalists alleging

573
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: to the idea that her very progressive politics have impacted

574
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: where she. Lands and to, me that feels like a

575
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: pretty big stretch in the w where there are any

576
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: number of players who are very outspoken about social, issues

577
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: and where it doesn't feel like ownership in most markets

578
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: would have an issue with her speaking out About gaza

579
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: or anything. Else it feels like there's something more to,

580
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: it and not talent and scale or what she brings

581
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: to a team, either like potentially just got caught up

582
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: in the rush of everything in terms of what she

583
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: thought she might get and what other teams thought she

584
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: might be. Worth that's been a fascinating one to, Me

585
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: Tina charles as, well of. Course but we'll be keeping

586
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: an eye out because there's still. Time as you, mentioned still.

587
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: Time don't have to have these finalized until the eve

588
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: Of may, eighth which is when the season tips. Off

589
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: when you're looking at the teams that have started to

590
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: come together so, far and it's. Early we haven't watched

591
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: a single second of them actually playing basketball, yet we've

592
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: only seen their faces next to each other on a.

593
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: Graphic but any teams that you're expecting to have a

594
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: better season than last, YEAR.

595
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 2: I, MEAN i Think atlanta is the team that just

596
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 2: like jumps out right, away LIKE i don't see how

597
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: you resign all of those players and bring An Angel

598
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 2: reese and, not like you, know there's obviously going to

599
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: be a way that you need to configure all of this.

600
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: Together BUT i think the amount of talent there makes

601
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: me really really excited for what they can. Do AND

602
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: i was happy to see those resignings for. SURE i,

603
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: mean Like vegas being able to keep their top group,

604
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Together like it's hard to, say, like, oh they're going

605
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: to be, better but it's like they're all a year,

606
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: older they're all a year, better and they're all year

607
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: like together. Again SO i Think vegas is LIKE i

608
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: think everyone's chasing them and like what a deep and

609
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: surprising thought in THE, wnba. RIGHT i Think dallas is

610
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: going to be really really interesting to me for the

611
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: pieces they added on the. Inside they to take the

612
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: front court From minnesota basically and Bring Lawn smith down,

613
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 2: there Co Defensive player of The year last. Year, LIKE

614
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: i think that's a team that if we're just looking

615
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: at it as, like you, know they haven't made the

616
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: playoffs the last two. Years DO i expect them to

617
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: be a playoff team this? Year, yes like step forward

618
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: and sort of the same standard For, Atlanta like they've

619
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: WON i think in the last seven season one playoff,

620
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: Game LIKE i think they can win more than one

621
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: playoff game this, Year and obviously the playoff structure has

622
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: changed over the last seven years in THE, wnba but,

623
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: LIKE i think those are probably outside of the obvious

624
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: choice Of, LIKE i think The aces will be just as,

625
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: good if not, better as they were a year. Ago

626
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: atlanta And dallas to me seem really really poised to

627
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: take a step forward just looking at like postseason. Performances

628
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: but it'll be interesting because it's still there's the postseasons not,

629
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 2: Expanding like there are two more teams in THE, wnba

630
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: but it's two fewer teams now will make the postseason as,

631
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: well and so it'll be even.

632
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: Harder, right you can get significantly better and still not make.

633
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: IT i do think it would be wild to have

634
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: a team With Paige arika, As Alena, Smith Lee rue

635
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: and others and not make. It but that's the it's

636
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: going to teams feel more stacked than ever before, somehow

637
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: even though there's more of them this. SEASON i ALSO

638
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: i think The La sparks should take another step with

639
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: a fully Healthy cam Adding. Naka like all the pieces

640
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: that they, Have i'm very interested to see how those go.

641
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: Together AND i know we're not talking necessarily about a,

642
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: contender but The Chicago sky to, me they've got to be,

643
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: better like looking at the talent that they have. Now

644
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: that team was dismal last, year and if you got

645
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: to fit all the pieces. Together AND i have some

646
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: questions about SOMETHING i heard about Dj carrington potentially getting

647
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: another surgery and not being. Available that's not Something i've seen.

648
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: REPORTED i did get it from a, source So i'm

649
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: looking to investigate that a little more BECAUSE i haven't

650
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: heard that from the team at. All but even Without,

651
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: djina you've still got a lot of talent there that

652
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: you didn't have. Before and someone tells Me Skyler diggins

653
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: is going to have an expectation of a bit more

654
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 1: than what we saw last. Year what about teams you

655
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: expect to take a step.

656
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: Back, WELL i feel like two of the teams that

657
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: you just mentioned as their new The sparks in The,

658
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: Sky like where did they get some of their players From?

659
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: SEATTLE i Think.

660
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: Seattle it's a team THAT i think they've missed the

661
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: playoffs five times in their, existence and SO i feel

662
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: like that's a group that to, me you, KNOW i

663
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: also feel like there's a like you've got to be

664
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: honest about where you're at right now as a, franchise

665
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: and like this is a team that maybe has more

666
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: runway to build than, others and like that's. Okay, also

667
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: if there's a time IN wnba history to maybe not

668
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: be great and go for the, lottery like the next

669
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: two years aren't terrible times to do that because of

670
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: the amount of talent in the twenty seven and twenty

671
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: eight draft. Classes LIKE i think for some of these,

672
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: teams the idea of you, know quote unquote tanking or

673
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: like not having the kinds of seasons they wanted, to you,

674
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: know whether or not The valkyriees performance last year's changed

675
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: the way that expansion franchises see themselves or, Whatever but

676
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: like there is so much talent coming down the. Pike

677
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,479
Speaker 2: and also like when teams are thinking about marketing and

678
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: like they've got to you, know make more money and

679
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: bring more, money and like you have these really famous

680
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: stars coming up through the college game right now that

681
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: you could add to your. Franchise like there are those

682
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: players coming, up and so it's like there is sort

683
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: of that light at the end of the tunnel. There

684
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: SO i think the storm are there for. ME i

685
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: Think phoenix is, Interesting, LIKE i think they have pieces

686
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: THERE i, like but to lose someone like Saw, too

687
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 2: that they had worked so hard to get To, phoenix

688
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: and for Saw too to go To New, york, LIKE

689
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 2: i JUST i wonder What phoenix looks. Like and again

690
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 2: they have so many players on their training camp, rosters

691
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: LIKE i genuinely don't know what they're going to look.

692
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: Like, yeah who's gonna? Stick, yeah for those who don't

693
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: remember a three team trade that Brought satu there In

694
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: january Or february of last year or so for all

695
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: of that finagling to be, done and then she did

696
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: say best year yet and then. Left but not much

697
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: For phoenix to do with the moral standing of best year.

698
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: Yet but, Gobye, hey you can have a you can

699
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: have a great year and close the. BOOK i GUESS

700
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 2: i don't know that's. Right she's going to go play

701
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 2: with her best, friends so from best year to best

702
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 2: Friend maybe that's what it is that's her this.

703
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: Chapter, yeah and we're also trying to figure out how

704
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: The liberty are paying all those. Players it's just wild

705
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: to imagine the talent that they. Have AND i was

706
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: listening to a touch More rip And sue was just

707
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: talking about the height on that team and when you

708
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 1: really think about the starting, lineup could be the smallest

709
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: player would Be Leoni. Phoebich that's that's. Terrifying truly going

710
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: to be a tear Buying liberty teams some length. Length, Yeah,

711
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: yeah what do you think we can expect from The

712
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: Connecticut sun in what they're calling their quote Unquote sunset

713
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: season before the team heads To texas and become The

714
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: Houston comets next. YEAR i thought The Brittany grinder signing was.

715
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: INTERESTING i think it's so hard to be the team

716
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: that has to wrap up all of that history and

717
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: also know that they're not building toward anything in the

718
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: city that they're playing.

719
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: In it's a really, weird like single season For connecticut

720
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 2: and like for a state that has meant so much

721
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: to women's basketball and a franchise that you, KNOW i

722
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: they're going to be bringing back sort of the legends

723
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: and you, know their most famous players and they have

724
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 2: a special court this, year and it's like it sort

725
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 2: of feels like when you, know Like Sue bird had

726
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: her retirement year and it was like all of these

727
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: different arenas that she went, to like places where like

728
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: giving her things and having these like ceremonies for her and,

729
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: stuff and it was like sort of this, like, well

730
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: she's like she's still, playing she's still. Here it's like

731
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 2: you are, Retiring and so it sort of has a

732
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: flavor of, THAT i, think and just that it's like

733
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: the franchise, itself like, yeah it's just it's it's sort

734
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: of a weird feeling and what they're building. TOWARDS i don't,

735
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: know like it'll be really it'll be really weird not

736
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: to have the sun as a part of THE, WNBA i,

737
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: Think and you know the new, logo the like sunset.

738
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 2: THING i guess that's kind of. Clever you, know people

739
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 2: who Are day one ticket holders are getting a special

740
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: commemorative gift and stuff as a thank.

741
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: You but, yeah it's, uh it'll be. Different. YEAH i

742
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: was talking To Jennifer, rozzotti president of The, sun earlier this.

743
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: WEEK i don't know what day it, is, ever but,

744
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: yeah and just thinking about how the new expansion teams

745
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: have years of runway to get. Going The comets have

746
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: to start now to start playing next, year but they'll

747
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: be starting their work on what that team's going to

748
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: look like well simultaneously closing out the book On connecticut

749
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: and how much there will be of people who go

750
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: from one franchise to the, other how much they want

751
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: to start, fresh depending on how much they want to

752
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: rely on sort of the institutional knowledge that comes from

753
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: folks that have been in it versus people who are

754
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: arriving with the mindset of the CURRENT, wnba which is

755
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: a different financial proposition in a different. Space SO i

756
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: think a little bit of both will probably end up.

757
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: Happening but, yeah it's. Complicated, Okay BEFORE i let you,

758
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: GO i want to just do a big picture look

759
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: at THE wnb because there's so much enthusiasm for this,

760
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: season this historic thirtieth, season BUT i also anticipate some

761
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: growing pains because players and fans and media are going

762
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: to be reacting to different, stakes different financial, realities multiple broadcast,

763
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,360
Speaker 1: partners lots of stuff is, changing and in, GENERAL i

764
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: wonder what kind of growing pains you expect this year

765
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: between players and media or players and fans because of

766
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: those salary increases and maybe because of new eyeballs on the.

767
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: League, YEAH i haven't looked exactly like ticket prices and.

768
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: STUFF i don't know how much ticket prices have increased

769
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: this year from, last BUT i assume over the next

770
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: few years that's a place where you, know these these

771
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 2: franchises need to make more, money and that's a place

772
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: you can make money is in ticket. Sales AND i

773
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 2: think how that impacts how fans feel about their, Teams

774
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: like how accessible are these things to go to for,

775
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 2: families for for, fans how like what do ticket prices look?

776
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: Like what do court site?

777
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: LIKE i think that's one of the things that AS

778
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: i speak with people AROUND wnba, fandom like how sort

779
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 2: of you, know close you can be to the game

780
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: and like accessible and sort of real and authentic a

781
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 2: lot of these environments have felt over the, years and

782
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: like does that change it? ALL i don't, Know LIKE

783
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: i think we're gonna have to see how these arenas feel,

784
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 2: Different like do they need to finagle pricing of like

785
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: soft drinks and like stuff like, that even like little

786
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: things where you don't think about it quite as much

787
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: as you, would but like it does affect the fan.

788
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: EXPERIENCE i do wonder how those sort of things come into.

789
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: Effect and, yeah in terms of like you were asking

790
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: about the media player, experience, YEAH i don't, Know like

791
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: there's there are going to there's going to be more,

792
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 2: interests there's going to be more. EYEBALLS i think the

793
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 2: the eternal problem with sports is like how can you watch?

794
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: Everything and like this isn't a new problem for THE,

795
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Wnba like this is a league that's had like, oh

796
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: tonight's game is streaming On twitter and it's like a

797
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: really good matchup and you're like why AM i watching

798
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: this game On? Twitter and like the not too recent

799
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: history of it and so like how accessible are the

800
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: games going to be to? Watch LIKE i think that's you,

801
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 2: know the LIKE i have issues with how like THE

802
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: ncaa tournament, happens but like the fact that all of

803
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,240
Speaker 2: the games are ON espn like makes it very easy

804
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: to find things, Right like it's all on THE espn,

805
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 2: network and so it's like if people want to buy

806
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: one month OF Espn plus or whatever it, was that

807
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 2: would get you all the, Games like that's what you

808
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: have to. Do now that's not the. Case BUT i

809
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: think that's also the experience for like every sports fan

810
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: everywhere is like you're constantly trying to figure, Out, oh

811
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: tonight's game is on this broadcast, channel tonight's tomorrow's it's on,

812
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: This tomorrow's is on? This what exactly you know what

813
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: channels actually have? It and like you, know do they

814
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: HAVE espn but NOT espn ON? Abc like those sort

815
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: of like nuances literally where you have to get into

816
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: the minutia of figuring out how to watch the. Teams you,

817
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 2: know that's not inherently AN wnba, problem that's just like

818
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: a sports. Problem, yeah, YEAH i think a lot of.

819
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: THAT i think also like we saw the bump With

820
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: Caitlin clark, arriving and we saw a lot of new

821
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: fans and new media enter the, space and there was

822
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: a lot of. Dramas So i'm interested in seeing if

823
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: because of more broadcast, rights then more coverage because more

824
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: media spaces feel like they want shoulder programming to support

825
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: the rights packages that they've. Bought and then will those

826
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: media folks you, know contribute in meaningful and helpful, ways

827
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: or will we see some of the talking heads that

828
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: are not really watching the games weighing in on the

829
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: biggest dramatic moments because it drives, clicks but adding, yes,

830
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: Discourse the answer is. Yes i'm like putting it out

831
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 1: there in the hopes of, like maybe it, won't oh

832
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: it will it for? Sure it. Will, Okay, WELL i

833
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you one last thing BECAUSE i feel

834
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: like this is the first of what could be a

835
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: series of conversations that have resulted from the interaction between

836
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: the media and a sport that at times felt, like

837
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: by necessity it was a little cheerleadery or, sycophantic because

838
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: there was so much toxicity that the people covering it

839
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: and supporting it didn't want to add to, that so

840
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 1: they kept the coverage in the interactions with players often

841
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: a little bit lighter than what we might see on

842
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: the men's. Side and now the expectation is are you?

843
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: Injured how long are you? Out should this person be,

844
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: bench should this person be? Fired all these other things

845
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: are going to be a lot more debatable and covered

846
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: than they ever were, before and that includes things like.

847
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: Relationships So i'm wondering if you made anything of easy

848
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: fud getting asked about her relationship with pagebackers and the

849
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: decision by either her or THE wingspr to not address

850
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: it and to have someone step.

851
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 2: In, YEAH i, MEAN i, thought you, know the question,

852
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: itself AND i think it Was Cassandra nigley who pointed

853
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: this out On twitter was the first PERSON i, Saw

854
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 2: but it was WHEN i heard the, question and one

855
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Speaker 2: of the first THINGS i thought, was like the second

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Speaker 2: part of the question was have you reached out to

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Speaker 2: OTHER wnba couples to ask how they navigated it.

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Speaker 1: Or something like.

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Speaker 2: That i'm, paraphrasing but sort of like the fact that

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Speaker 2: this isn't, like you, KNOW i think maybe some of

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Speaker 2: these people that haven't followed THE wnba as much as we're, like,

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Speaker 2: wow what like an interesting new, situation and like those

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Speaker 2: of us who've covered THE wnba, before, like, well you know,

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Speaker 2: this it's not totally. New it's not totally, new and

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Speaker 2: SO i think like that part AND i am interested in,

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Speaker 2: that AND i think that is an interesting question in

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Speaker 2: terms of like how People And i'm always thinking about

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Speaker 2: the human side of, sports and like what we can

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Speaker 2: my normal like tendency as a feature writer is to go,

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Speaker 2: there like what can we learn about ourselves as human

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Speaker 2: beings in our existence and using sports as sort of

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Speaker 2: the medium through which we do, that and like having those.

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Speaker 2: Conversations and SO i, think you, know it's a question

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Speaker 2: you can, ask and it's also a question that you

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Speaker 2: can decline like that is totally. Fine AND i think

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Speaker 2: that the fact that like it felt as though she

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Speaker 2: expecting the response of pr like she didn't asy didn't

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Speaker 2: appear like surprised by any of. IT i would hope

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Speaker 2: that means that that was coordinated with all parties involved

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Speaker 2: on the wing, side that that was like how they

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Speaker 2: had decided to handle, it and she was okay with.

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Speaker 2: It but, YEAH i, MEAN i think it's like there

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Speaker 2: there is more, attention there are more eyes. Here and

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Speaker 2: my hope is that you, know everyone is as you

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Speaker 2: go into every, interview like every INTERVIEW i ever, do

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Speaker 2: every interview you ever do, right like you're doing your

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Speaker 2: homework and your background and so that you can ask

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Speaker 2: the best questions and then you can you, know discover something,

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Speaker 2: new and that you can ask the questions that people are,

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Speaker 2: asking and you can provide scrutiny where it's where it's,

893
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Speaker 2: necessary and that you can provide sort of illumination where it's,

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Speaker 2: necessary and all of those sort of things that come

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Speaker 2: into sports that make our jobs really really, cool AND

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Speaker 2: i think the most important part of our.

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Speaker 1: Job, YEAH i think there's a fair criticism for media

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Speaker 1: at times for the kind of questions that could ask

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Speaker 1: or the way they handle. Things and ALSO i think

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Speaker 1: there's often from the fan base not enough appreciation for

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Speaker 1: what it means to have paid respected professional journalists in

902
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Speaker 1: a space unearthing things that eventually benefit fans and players

903
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Speaker 1: and the folks that you're rooting for a lot of,

904
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Speaker 1: times when teams or leagues get away with, things it's

905
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Speaker 1: because there isn't enough proper professional coverage to hold them.

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Speaker 1: Accountable and SO i think people will notice when the

907
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Speaker 1: media steps up in a way that they don't like

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Speaker 1: a lot less often than they'll notice when that work

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Speaker 1: is going to create a more equitable and positive environment

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Speaker 1: for everyone. Involved this is going to be probably a

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Speaker 1: sticky topic specifically and just at, large BECAUSE i think

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Speaker 1: some people say it feels like hiding an obvious issue

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Speaker 1: in the league to not talk about, it and other

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Speaker 1: people say it feels like an invasion of privacy to

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Speaker 1: talk about and finding that balance point in a league

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Speaker 1: that does have a lot of folks dating and in

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Speaker 1: relationships and understanding that of course they can be professional

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Speaker 1: in play and also they're human is a, reality and

919
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Speaker 1: so how those athletes specifically decide to talk about it

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Speaker 1: will be probably the cue for how deep you? Go

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Speaker 1: BUT i think the questions will be. Fair as part

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Speaker 1: of a massive billion dollar business that is going to

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Speaker 1: mean a lot of people are putting a lot of

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Speaker 1: faith and money into the players and the teams and

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Speaker 1: the league as a. Whole it's just gonna operate maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit differently now because of. That i've kept

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Speaker 1: you too. LONG i love talking about this. Stuff i'm

928
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Speaker 1: so excited about this. Season i'm so excited for this

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Speaker 1: last bit of a couple of weeks where everything's going

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00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: to come together before the play actually. Begins so thanks

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Speaker 1: for helping illuminate a lot of it for.

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Speaker 2: Us, yeah this is like the part where everyone's putting

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Speaker 2: the puzzle. Together it's like speed, puzzling, Right so the

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Speaker 2: next two.

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Speaker 1: Weeks thanks again To chantal for taking the time to

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Speaker 1: women's national team game Versus japan On, Tuesday april fourteenth

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