1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noone Pacific. Find your local station for the Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Oh do we have a show today? It is Friday. 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: What a night of sports. God bless American and what 12 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: it grants us. Dodgers, Phillies, all time finish, Eagles, Giants. 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: I was saying myself last night, I'm watching them. 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 3: Thank you. 15 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave with the Dodgers. I'm watching that game. Yeah, 16 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: the Giants Eagle to come back and win. And then 17 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh, we got a story in New York. 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: Oh my, oh my, jmact blazing five and one hour 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: off a winning week. We both had good week. That 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: had a good last night, but good week week. Last 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: night I told you, I told you to beware last night. 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: These division games are crazy. I want to start with this. 23 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: Last night was not about the Eagles. Saquon average five 24 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: yards of carry, season high in yards. AJ Brown got touches. 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: It was not about the Eagles. That's not what last night. Well, 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna open the show criticizing the Eagles. Last 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: night was about the New York Giants. They have found 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: their franchise quarterback. It's gonna be bumpy. You're gonna have 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: weeks like last week and you're gonna have last night 30 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: if they can keep him healthy, confident, athletic, slippery, big 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: boy NFL throws. That is an NFL franchise quarterback feet 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: arm confidence. Once you get that right, Giant fans, such 33 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: like when you found Eli, gets much easier to build 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: the roster. I mean, the Giants last night are missing 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: their number one receiver and the number two receiver and 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: they scored thirty four points. I know you all loved 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: Obj and you love Malik Neighbors Come Mbra though. That's 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: icing The cake is Camp's Skataboo and Jackson Dart because 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: of the way they play. They're tough, they're young, they're physical. 40 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: In the Northeast because of the weather, Tyreek Hill is 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: not winning your titles. Your left tackle is your star back. January. 42 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: Football is not decided by the fastest guys. Jackson Dart's tough, 43 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: Camp's Scataboo's tougher. If you can keep Andrew Thomas the 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: left tackle healthy, you got your three guys. That's going 45 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: to be your future. So the New York Giants have 46 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: not had an offensive identity in a decade. In a decade, 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: and they decided a couple of weeks ago, let's start 48 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: the rookies. Let's let Jackson and Camp Scataboo. It's their offense. 49 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: Since then, the Giants lead the NFL in first downs, 50 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: believe it or not. So it's not just the win 51 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: last night. It's not just the production. It's how they're 52 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: doing it. It is a Northeast physical football team. Go 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: to the Patriots dynasty. They never won when they were 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: at their flashiest with Randy Moss. Those were the years 55 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: they didn't win. They won early when they were tough physically, 56 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: and they were winning late when they had Edelman and 57 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: Brady and Gronk and always great on third down. Giants 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: were amazing on third down last night. A lot of 59 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: those fast teams aren't amazing on third down. They're just 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: fun to watch. 61 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: Again. 62 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: I like Malik Neighbors, OBJ was fun. That is icing 63 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: the cake in Northeast football. When the Steelers were great, 64 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: it was defense and Big Ben, the best Peyton Manning 65 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Colts team ever, could run the ball and play defense. 66 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers title with the Packers. They actually ran the 67 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: ball and had his best defense as a Packer quarterback. 68 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: That's Northeast football. So they decided to start these guys 69 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 1: week four. We're going to give the kids the offense, 70 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: and it looks different. There's an identity. It's physical overflash. 71 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: It is steak over sizzle. There's nothing wrong with a 72 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: little sizzle. You can't build around it. So that's last 73 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: Night's not about the Eagles falling apart. I can talked 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: about that in thirty minutes. That's and once you get 75 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback, once you find the quarterback, you can then 76 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: identify what you are. You can't do that without the quarterback. 77 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: Right right, Kansas City finds Mahomes. We're gonna be clever, 78 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna be situational. We're because you have a situational, 79 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,119 Speaker 1: brilliant quarterback who's really creative with a great arm talent. 80 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: So the Giants have just been swimming around drafting guys, 81 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: hitting on a lot of them on defense. 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 5: What are they last night? 83 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, yeah, you can build around that. 84 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 5: That's an identity. 85 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: If I told you an hour before the game one 86 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: of these teams is going to score thirty four points, 87 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: you would not have picked the New York Giants. Giant 88 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: fan wouldn't have picked after that Saints Debaucle. It's gonna 89 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: be uneven, and it's gonna be choppy, and you're gonna 90 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: have bad weeks because they're kids. But Brian dabol After 91 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: saw what we all saw. 92 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: You go through some tough times and sometimes you can 93 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: get stronger from it, or sometimes you can fold. I 94 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: like our guys, these young players. I have a lot 95 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: of confidence in these young players, these rookies. 96 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: They got the right mindset. They're tough. 97 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: Northeast Football Championship Football. Find me, find me the warm 98 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: Weather dynasty in the NFL. Dolphins have never had one, 99 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: Caroline has never had one, Arizona's never had one. Rams 100 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: a big good, not a dynasty. Find me one. Find 101 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: me the warm Weather NFL dynasty. Marino and Don Shula 102 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 1: won Super Bowl one, Peyton manning Indy one to one 103 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: and is great. You look at the history of the NFL, 104 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: the Green Bays, the Kansas City, Seattle's mini dynasty, Baltimore's greatness, Pittsburgh, 105 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: New England, the Giants when they beat Brady twice. What 106 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: was it about that defensive front? That's an identity. I 107 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: watched the Giants last night. Oh you can, Oh, okay, 108 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: you could put your arms around that and build around 109 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: what I watched last night. That one handed catch years ago. 110 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: That's just a moment. Okay, So last night, I mean 111 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: it was amazing about last night is you had seven 112 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: or eight of the best hitters in baseball and it 113 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: was eventually the bottom of the Dodgers' lineup that got 114 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: it going. But it was palpable. And the Dodgers do this. 115 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: They put so much pressure on your manager and your 116 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: pitching staff. And last night Oriyan Kirkians, a young pitcher 117 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: for the Phillies, super talented. Here's the moment, the crowd 118 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: on its feet, and this really talented kid. 119 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 5: Couldn't rise to the moment. No balls in a strike 120 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 5: has breaks his bat. 121 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 4: Kirkering gotta find it, throws to the pint. 122 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it throws it away, and the Dodgers 123 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: have won. 124 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 5: The Dodgers Gwynn. 125 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 4: Kirkering right there. Plenty of time to go to first. 126 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 6: I mean, plenty of time to go to first even 127 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 6: though we bobbled this, they. 128 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 5: Just kind of in the moment panic. 129 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: Should have gone to first base, right bouncer boom, first base. 130 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 5: You're out. 131 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: But that's what the Dodgers do. They get in your head. 132 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, O Tawi was one for seventeen in the series, 133 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: O Tawni, and they walked him to load the bases 134 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: in the seventh O Tawni, Betts, Munsey Freeman, Edmund Tioskar Hernandez. 135 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: Constant pressure. Dodgers didn't even hit. 136 00:07:58,320 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: In this series. 137 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: They didn't really hit the series, but they won. And 138 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: it was the bottom of the lineup that did it. 139 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's Keith k it's Monsey, it's Edmund. It 140 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,679 Speaker 1: wasn't even the top of the lineup. It's constant pressure. 141 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: Then rokis Asaki came on and the Dodgers' bullpen has 142 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: been a problem all year, so they've moved him to 143 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: the bullpen to be the closer. Three innings last night, untouchable. 144 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: So the Dodgers are now in the NLCS, and you 145 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: got Freddy Freeman and Otani hitting a buck eighty twelve strikeouts. 146 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: That's what the Dodgers are. We talked about this with 147 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 1: the Yankees. Yankees are home run reliant. The Dodgers are 148 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: reliant on no single player Otawani. The last two years, 149 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: he has struggled in the postseason. I mean last year 150 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: it was Freddy Freeman in the World Series. I mean 151 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: earlier this year, Mookie Bets got sick, couldn't hit in September. 152 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: He's now on fire. It was the bottom of the 153 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: Dodgers lineup last night. So when you play the Dodgers, 154 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: and this is really true about all sports, they put 155 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: it's almost like KD Steph Clan Draymond remember, for about 156 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: three years, like pick your poison, Who's hot tonight? There 157 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: were games Draymond took over. There were games Klay Thompson 158 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: hit six of eight threes. Who do you guard? Who 159 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: is it tonight? That's what it is with the Dodgers. 160 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: It was their young pitcher throwing one oh one, a 161 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: nasty splitter. It was the bottom of their lineup, and 162 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: it was the crowd. It was the crowd. It wasn't 163 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: O Tawny, it wasn't Freeman, it was the crowd and 164 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: the pressure and it's never ending and they keep putting 165 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: it on you. Here was Dave Roberts on the play 166 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: that sent the Dodgers to the NLCS. 167 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 4: It's brutal. 168 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 7: Obviously, they played great defense tonight, and you know, it's 169 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 7: one of those things that it's a PfP, a pitch 170 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 7: fielding practice, and he's done it a thousand times, and 171 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 7: you know, just right there, he was so focused, I'm sure, 172 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 7: on just getting the hitter, and you know, just sort 173 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 7: of forgot, you know, the outs in the situation. 174 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not doing that against most teams in Major 175 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: League Baseball, but in that spot, against that team and 176 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: they're in your head, you lose yourself. The Phillies did, 177 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: and in the process lost their series. By the way, 178 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: you know, Otani and Freddie Freeman aren't the only one struggling. 179 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: Trade Turner struggled, Bryce Harper, struggled, Kyle Schwarber a couple 180 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: of bombs he struggled. So the Philly you get into 181 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: the postseason, I mean, think about all the great hitters 182 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Otani and Freeman, Trade Turner, Schwarber, Bryce Harper, Nobody's hit, 183 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: nobody's hitting in the series. So it comes down to moments, 184 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: It comes down to base running. We talked about this 185 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: with the Yankees. 186 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: They are so beholden to the home run. 187 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: It's so much of its pitching, so much of it's circumstantial, 188 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: so much of its timing is the bottom of the 189 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: lineup and base running. Dodgers could not depend on the 190 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: big bats in this series and still found another way 191 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: because this is what they do. I've said this before. 192 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: I think the Dodgers are the best run sports organization 193 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: in North America. Drafting, developing, free agency. They just don't 194 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: miss very often. Jay Meg, great show to a blazing five, 195 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: top of the hour, Camp Scataboo's doing flips in the 196 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: end zone. 197 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 5: He is fun man. Oh yeah yeah. 198 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 8: Basically, Jackson Darts turning into Jeremy Lynn in New York. 199 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 8: He's a brush fire that everybody's excited about. If you 200 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 8: think he's your franchise quarterback, you got another thing coming. 201 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 4: All right. 202 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 8: He's a nice story, Colin, let's be real, come on, 203 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 8: I think he's a little better than that. Oh okay, 204 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 8: I love Jeremy Lynn during his time. It's awesome, But 205 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 8: I mean Dart. 206 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Is way too reckless on the script. 207 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 5: Well, he's gonna get murdered out there. 208 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: He's gotta yeah. I mean, that's part of it. I 209 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: think it's I mean, remember Baker Mayfield in his second 210 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: or third year in Cleveland, he threw an interception. He 211 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: tried to square up a safety and it banged up 212 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: his shoulder. Young players, they're raw. I said this before though, 213 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: before the season started. I said, Jackson Dart was in 214 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: college with Lane Kiffen for three years. Lane Kiffin's coach 215 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: in the pros. Lane's an elite offensive coach. If you're 216 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: with Lane Kiffen for three years in the SEC, against 217 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: those NFL level defenses, NFL players everywhere, you don't need 218 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: to sit for a year. This is not like BYU football, 219 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: you're a year starter. This is Jackson Dart started in 220 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: the SEC with Lane Kiffen for three years. The Russell 221 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: Wilson thing was nice. I think you saw Brian Dable 222 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: rushing to the tenth. He wanted Jackson Dart on the field, 223 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: and we said this start Jackson Dart. When you play 224 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: in the Big ten, or you playing the SEC and 225 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 1: you're playing three years with a really smart offensive coach, 226 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: you don't need to sit. This is not somebody from 227 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, a Mountain West Conference, a one year with 228 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: a defensive head coach, Jackson Dart's ready to play. And 229 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: the great thing about that is you're gonna find out. 230 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: By the way, last weekend the Giants had five straight 231 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: possessions with a turnover, so it can get really bad. 232 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: They were fumbles some of them. And then last night 233 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: he was magic. So it's not like bow Nicks last 234 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: week in the first half awful, second half outstanding. So 235 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: it's not going to be linear. It's going to be 236 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: all over the map. But what you look for in 237 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: these moments with bow Nixon Denver, he'll make throws and 238 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, that is a franchise quarterback throw. I 239 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: can remember watching Matt Ryan as a rookie and he 240 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: was facing the Bears and he threw a ball at 241 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: the left sideline one throw and I was like, yeah, 242 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: that's an He threw it between the corner and the safety, 243 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: and it was the first time I'd watched Matt Ryan 244 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: out of Boston College and I said, oh, yeah, that's 245 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback. I remember Cam Newton. I think he 246 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: played Arizona, could be wrong. He went on the road 247 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: in Arizona. I didn't know if he'd work. He was 248 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: a great athlete. He made a throw against Arizona. It 249 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: was down the left sideline and you're like, yep, that 250 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: is a franchise quarterback. So you absute least see a 251 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. But it's not gonna be artistic. Andrew Thomas 252 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: doesn't play. The on line gets bad. Like so it's 253 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: this idea, Brock perty got to sit for a year 254 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: and learn this. 255 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 4: Sit. 256 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart's like, bro the old line's not much. Top 257 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: two receivers are out. It's the Eagles. Yeah, that was impressive. 258 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: That's an impressive deniable. That's Cake that's not icing. Don't 259 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: mean Jay's one handed catch is icing? 260 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 8: How about the am I can't wait for you to 261 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 8: talk about the Eagles. 262 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 5: I mean out gained in every game this season. Well, 263 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 5: they had three hundred and fifty yards that I. 264 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: Didn't think zero points in the second half old. 265 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 5: Now that's terrible defense. 266 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: That's something else to talk about and we will coming up. 267 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 268 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: and neon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 269 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 270 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 6: He's Mike Krmen, I'm Dan Bayern. 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It's the Hurt whatever platform you're on. Thanks 282 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: for making us part of your day. I have a 283 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: very interesting topic in about five minutes I'm going to 284 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: get to before I get to my picks. Now, I 285 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: will admit I'm going to stay away from Chiefs Lions. 286 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: I want to watch the game. I think it's a 287 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: field goal game either way. I think Kansas City's better 288 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: than people think. But I think Detroit's run game is 289 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: demoralizing and clock controlling and difficult, so I'm going to 290 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: stay away from that. I'm taking some ugly teams this week. 291 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 8: I have no fears, so I'll be discussing Ceast Lions later. 292 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 8: Some numbers for you not great for your number one 293 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 8: team in the hurt hierarch. 294 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: So let me just say this, feast on ugly teams. 295 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: You bet Carolina more than like Carolina guy, But I 296 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: got my picks this week and I like him. Here 297 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: we go. 298 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 2: Let's blaze it up, fired up, It's Collins blazon. 299 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 5: Fuck Seahawks at. 300 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: Jagobsh Seattle plus one and a half go money line. 301 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: They're gonna win this puppy outright. One of five teams 302 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: to hold a fourth quarter lead in every game. Even 303 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: the games they lost, they could have won. Number two 304 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: scoring offense. Since Week two, they've been a great road 305 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: team with Mike McDonald eight game road winning streak, and 306 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: donald is on an absolute eater in his last three 307 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: weeks of passer rating over one thirty. 308 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: The Jags on short. 309 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Rest off a highly emotional win, probably the biggest Jags 310 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: win in several years. Offensively, they are terrible on third down. 311 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: The Seahawks played their worst defensive game of the season. 312 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: They'll be in a bad mood. Watch Seattle's defense come 313 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: back revert to what we know they are. The turnover 314 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: regression for Jacksonville. They're not going to keep getting three 315 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,479 Speaker 1: and four turnovers a game. Seattle wins outright in a 316 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: bad mood Cross Country thirty twenty seven. Hawks rebound from 317 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: that loss last week. 318 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 5: Patriots six seat Take. 319 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: The under Patriots Saints under forty five and a half points. 320 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: Neither team runs the ball right. Patriots and Saints are 321 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: scoring under twenty points in half their games this year. 322 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: New England's again coming off an emotional, dramatic, tough road win. 323 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: I think they come back down to Earth. I think 324 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: they win, but it's going to be ugly and low scoring. 325 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: They're a top ten scoring defense. Christian Gonzalez now he's back. 326 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: It's hard to throw on them. The Saints. Spencer Rattler's 327 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: interesting nine touchdown passes an eleven career starts. These are 328 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: two teams still finding their way. Can't run the ball. 329 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: Patriots win, but take the under. Let's say at twenty 330 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: one to twenty ugly choppie game. 331 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 5: Take the under Chargers at DOLFI can't believe it, but. 332 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Miami plus the four and a half. 333 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: Listen two at home has been good his last seven 334 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: home games. He's not the problem. One twelve passer rating. 335 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: Chargers could be on their third running back and their 336 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: third left tackle. They are a mess, and what that does? 337 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: They settle for field goals. They are struggling in the 338 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: red zone, so even if they dominate time of possession, 339 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 1: they're not gonna dominate in the red zone. Justin Herbert, 340 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: three straight games with at least one interception. So I 341 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: get a team traveling cross country on backups to backups, 342 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: a Miami coach fighting for his career, and they're getting 343 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: four and a half at home. I think I'm gonna 344 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: take the Dolphins. Chargers probably win this game twenty four 345 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: to twenty three. I'm absolutely taking the points with the 346 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: Dolphins Titan Raiders again. I'm betting ugly this week. I 347 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: like the Raiders minus three and a half. They're coming 348 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: off a humiliating road loss. What the teams do when 349 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: they're humiliated. The Giants got humiliated last week they beat 350 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: the Eagles. They have found a rushing game with Ashton genty. 351 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: Look at the last two weeks for the Raiders one 352 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy three yards rushing yards per game. So 353 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna lean on that, and folks Tennessee's awful. Forget 354 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: the win last week, They're awful. Hell, the twenty points 355 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: are fewer and four to five games allowing six yards 356 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: of play, So again, I don't love Gino. I think 357 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna run the ball. It's gonna be ugly. The 358 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: Raiders were humiliated. Maybe it's one of their few wins 359 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: on the year, but I'm gonna take it. Swallow the points. 360 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: Twenty six seventeen over. What I think in Tennessee right 361 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: now is easily the worst team. 362 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 5: In the league. Bears at Commanders. 363 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: My favorite bet of the week is the Commander's minus 364 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: four and a half. They're two and zero at home, 365 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: both blowout wins last three weeks, averaging twenty seven plus 366 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: points in three games. Okay, so they're getting points on 367 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: the board. Jayden Daniels last week looked excellent according to PFF. 368 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: They also have the best special teams and their defense 369 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: is getting after it upfront. So I think you're gonna 370 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: see the Washington of last year. Terry mcclaurin could play 371 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: the Bears. They've lost four straight in prime time. They're 372 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 1: not a rise to the moment franchise. They've been a 373 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: bad road team forever. Their defense is allowing the most yards. 374 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: Do you know that lost in all this Caleb Williams discussion. 375 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: Their defense is allowing six points seven yards of play. 376 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: It's atrocious. The Commanders win thirty three to twenty six. Jmack, 377 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: I love my picks. I'm taking some ugly I'm taking 378 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: the points in Miami. At home, I'm taking the Raiders. 379 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: Raiders had the Bears beat last week if not for 380 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: that field goal. 381 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 5: You don't like my picks, you know what happened. 382 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 8: If you lie down with dogs, you get fleas colin 383 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 8: and there's some there's some gross this yere so I 384 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 8: respect that. By the way, did you look at the 385 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 8: Seahawks injury report? Three of the four starters in the 386 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 8: secondary maybe down this week? Not great at all against 387 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 8: Trevor Lawrence who's slinging it. 388 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: So you're gonna take a team take it? That is 389 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: literally kind of bipolarish at home after the most important 390 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,479 Speaker 1: win for the franchise national TV game in years. I mean, 391 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: let's be honest about Jacksonville. When's the last time they 392 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: played back to back great games against good teams. 393 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 8: Here's what I'm surprised that you're taking close spreads. There's 394 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 8: some big ones out there. Rams are big. 395 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: It looks like Lamar's not going to go oh intersults 396 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: are big. 397 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 5: Looks like Kyler's on this show What Did I Do 398 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 5: a week ago? 399 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: Bills are going to crush the same Packers are going. 400 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: To crush the Cowboys. 401 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: Chargers are going to crush the Giants last what was 402 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: last night? Eagle is going to crush I stayed away 403 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: from all of them. All Right, you know what game 404 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: I actually like? I could be out of my mind here, 405 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: He'll tell me. Dolphins Raiders. Yeah, that you're out of 406 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: your mind for sure when you when you they're running 407 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: the ball. 408 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 8: Now. 409 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 410 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: in noon eastern non am Pacific. 411 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: They played in the NFL for seven years. A Heisman 412 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: Trophy finalist, he's one of the voices of college football 413 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: at Fox. It's great to have mon Brady quinn Is 414 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: joining us. He'll be at that Ohio State Illinois game 415 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: where USC didn't exactly didn't exactly light the world up, 416 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 1: so that was pretty disappointing. We'll get to USC Michigan 417 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: in a bit. Listen, Ohio State. I've always felt Brady, 418 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: it's the SEC program up north. But that's when I 419 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: felt the SEC was better than the Big Ten. 420 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 5: I don't. 421 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: I think Indiana is the equal of old miss I think. 422 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: I mean you living them in West. I think time 423 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: have changed. I was watching Dave Portnoy this morning on 424 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: social and he did all these matchups, and I didn't 425 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 1: disagree with him. It does look different, Brady. When I 426 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: watched Big ten games five years ago, it looked different. 427 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: I think Ohio State's the best team in the country, 428 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure Oregon's not second. 429 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 5: How's that land for you? 430 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: That's about right? 431 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 10: I mean, I think you got to throw into Miami 432 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 10: into the conversation right now. I know that doesn't play 433 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 10: into a Big ten SEC debate when it's all said 434 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 10: and done. But the reality is the last two national 435 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 10: champions were Big ten teams. You go back and look 436 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 10: at the teams that are playing for it, even the 437 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 10: semi finals last year Penn State Notre Dame that is 438 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 10: not obviously the Big ten, but still a Midwest team. 439 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 10: You're seeing really a lot of these Big ten teams. 440 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 10: Midwest teams have caught up. And it's important for Big 441 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 10: ten specifically because they're getting more money in for NIL. 442 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 10: You know, they're just schools with a little bit more 443 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 10: money to be able to pass around. And when you 444 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 10: think about the transfer port, when thinking about how you 445 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 10: construct a roster, that plays a huge role. 446 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 4: And so before NIL. 447 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 10: Really became legalized for a lot of these players, I 448 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 10: think the SEC was able to dominate. And now players 449 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 10: are willing to go wherever they can to get an 450 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 10: opportunity to play win a national championship, and also, you know, 451 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 10: maximize their market ability and maximize their ability to make 452 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 10: as much as they can. So they're willing to leave 453 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 10: the warm confines of the South to be able to 454 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 10: go up to the North and be able to take 455 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,880 Speaker 10: over on some of those teams and go win national championships. 456 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 10: So again, I think we're seeing that passing of the 457 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 10: torch right now, still a lot of football le f 458 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 10: P played. We'll see how it all plays out, but 459 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 10: I don't think there's any doubt about it. Our hot state, 460 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 10: Oregon looked to be two of the best, if not 461 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 10: the two best teams in the country. 462 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: So when the West Coast teams joined the Big Ten, 463 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, my take was Oregon and Washington already playing 464 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: cruddy weather all the time. It won't matter. The flights 465 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: are three and four hours, they're not eight. You're not 466 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: playing in Beijing. It's fine. But USC has been different, Brady. 467 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: They haven't looked physical. They look like a warm weather team. 468 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: They got pushed around last week by Illinois, and I 469 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: said yesterday this Michigan game, you got Notre Dame comme. 470 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: You're not beating Notre Dame there with that quarterback play 471 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: and that coach. You're not beating Oregon and Oatson. This 472 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: is a defining moment that you have pivoted the big 473 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: ten fold. I think it's that big of a game 474 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: for USC. I don't think it's that big for Michigan. 475 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how is your feeling going into this game? 476 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 10: In La more curiosity than anything else. I mean, very 477 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 10: simile to Illinois, who you talked about a little bit ago. 478 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 10: Disappointed you when they knocked off your you know, Southern 479 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 10: Cayl Trojans, but they responded after a really tough lost Indiana. 480 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 10: I mean, you're watch that tape going, how can this 481 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 10: be the same team? The way Brett Billen was able 482 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 10: to get Illinois to rally and respond to that, it's 483 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 10: going to be very similar to Lincoln Riley. He's got 484 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 10: to find a way to get his team to rally, 485 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 10: stay in this thing, realize that you know it's just 486 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 10: one loss. It doesn't define your season, or you can't 487 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 10: let it define your season. So their physicality will be 488 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 10: challenged once again by Michigan, because yes, the passing attack 489 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 10: has improved. Bryce Underwood probably had his best passing game 490 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 10: this past week versus Wisconsin, but different challenge in the past. 491 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 4: Defence for Michigan's going to be challenged. 492 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 10: Big time with mackay Lemon, Jacoby Lane, all the playmakers 493 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 10: that USC has on the outside as talent of quarterback 494 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 10: as Jade Maava is, so we know that they can 495 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 10: match up in that respect. The question is if Michigan 496 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 10: starts to play Bolli ball very similar the way Illinois 497 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 10: was able to run against them, are. 498 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 4: They going to be able to get off the field. 499 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: Are they going to be able to get stops? 500 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 10: Because the Illinois USC game was not as close as. 501 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 4: The score predictive be. 502 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 10: There's two fumbles that were going into the end zone, 503 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 10: one of which never should have been overturned or never 504 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 10: should call in the first place. 505 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 4: He was already down. 506 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 10: So when you look at this matchup, it's really a 507 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 10: challenge to USC to see how they can respond physically 508 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 10: more than anything else. And it's going to speak volumes 509 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 10: about where this program's at. And the tough thing for 510 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 10: them is they got to play Michigan, then you go 511 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 10: on the road to play Notre Dame, another physical team. 512 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 10: They're going through a gauntlet this season of physicality. You've 513 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 10: got to play Nebraska at some point too. All those matchups, 514 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 10: it's going to be whether or not they can not 515 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 10: only survive and then meet that physicality, but sustain it 516 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 10: throughout the rest of the season. 517 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: So before I get to your Ohio State game, Notre 518 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: Dame plays NC State, then they play sc So it's 519 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 1: one of those weird games where your big rivals the 520 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: following week. 521 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 4: A trap game, trap game. He's probably started to. 522 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 5: Say, yeah, yeah, CJ. Carr is playing out of his mind. 523 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: He is he a freshman? I think he's a freshman, 524 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: isn't he? 525 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: Is he sure a freshman? 526 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? It's about I mean, the kid can play. So 527 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: I look at Dante More and CJ. Carr, and we 528 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: came into the year with all these big name quarterbacks 529 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, those are the two best quarterbacks. 530 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about CJ and talk a little 531 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: bit about Dante, because I don't think it's close. From 532 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: what I've watched this season, those guys that's Sunday football, 533 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's way too early for CJ. But 534 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: those guys look special. Well what do you see? 535 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 10: Well, let me first say this, I'd throw Fernanda Mendoza 536 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 10: at Indiana into that conversation. So he's been phenomenal this year, 537 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 10: and also Carson back He's responded well so far. So 538 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 10: I would say those four are playing the best quarterback 539 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 10: and joints as well as as number five of anyone 540 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 10: in the country right now. But specifically see Jayman. Look, 541 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 10: his grandfather was Lloyd Carr. We all know that as 542 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 10: Pops played as well. You can just tell the way 543 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 10: he plays the game. He's been brought up to be 544 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 10: able to read defenses, understand what offensive coordinators are trying 545 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 10: to execute on any given play. He's able to manipulate 546 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 10: the defense with his eyes. He does things that are 547 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 10: just so far beyond where he's at in his playing 548 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 10: career at Notre Dame. It gives you the sense that 549 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 10: you feel like he's almost NFL ready because of how 550 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 10: he plays the game. He's ridiculously accurate with the football 551 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 10: at all three levels in the field, and he can 552 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 10: move around, he can create, he can make something out 553 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 10: of nothing. So this young man, to me, and I've 554 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 10: said this before, I said it when he signed, I 555 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 10: think is going to be the greatest quarterback in Notre 556 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 10: Dame history. 557 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: Like that's how special he is. 558 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 10: When you watch him play the game, it feels like 559 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 10: everything's playing so slow for him. And very similar to 560 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 10: that Dante Moore, who was a big Notre Dame recruiter 561 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 10: I ended up going to UCLA. 562 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: Obviously, he found his way to Oregon. Same thing. 563 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 10: I mean, these young men calling the nowadays come in 564 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 10: so prepared mechanically, there's no flaws in their throwing motion. 565 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 4: They're accurate as all get out. 566 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 10: They understand what offensive cordators are asking from them at 567 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 10: these different concepts, how they're trying to attack a defense. 568 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 10: And you just saw in a big stage versus Penn 569 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 10: State how he handled in that clutch moment. So Dante 570 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 10: Moore is draft Eligi. Well, he is the guy that 571 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 10: if I was a team looking at this quarterback class 572 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 10: would have up there as one of my top quarterbacks 573 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 10: that I'm evaluating, potentially taking number one overall. So big 574 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 10: game for him this week obviously versus IU. He's got 575 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 10: a lot more to display, I think. But I think 576 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 10: the world of Dante mort too. He's very poised, another 577 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 10: wise young man. When you talk to him, he just 578 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 10: feels ready for the moment. Nothing's ever too big for him. 579 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: So you have Ohio State Illinois. I got to give 580 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Day credit. When people beat up on Ryan Day. 581 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: My take as well. He's losing the Hardballs Wolverines in Georgia. 582 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: Let's let's slow down. But I think it takes some 583 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: security to go. I'm gonna go to the NFL and 584 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: get Chip Kelly friends. I know that. But then he 585 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: does it again with Matt Patricia. And last year the 586 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: Buckeyes were kind of about their offense. This year the 587 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: kind of about their defense. And I got to tell 588 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: you when I when I watched that defense, how much 589 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: of it Brady is the scheme? 590 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 5: Patricia? 591 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: Because I think Chip Kelly by the end of that year, 592 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: they had good players. I mean, Abuka is obviously ridiculous, 593 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: but when you watch Ohio State's defense, they shut Washington down. 594 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: Is it the talent? Is it the players? Is that 595 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. What does the film tell Brady Quinn? 596 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 4: I think it's the combination of all of it. 597 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 10: I mean, I think, first off, where you give Randy 598 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 10: a lot of credits, the fact that he lost Jim Kelly, 599 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 10: you know, he lost Jim Knowles, and so you're fining, 600 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 10: you're you know, finding new people to come into those spots. 601 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 10: And for Matt Patricia to come down to the college level, 602 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 10: there's a bit of a learning curve there, but also 603 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 10: eight new starters on defense. So when you take that 604 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 10: into account, this group is playing as good, if not 605 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 10: better than last year's defense. And that's really saying something 606 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 10: for a lot of guys who are jumping into roles 607 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 10: like Kayden Curry, who's starting this year, is one of 608 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 10: the best edge rushers in the country right now, rvil 609 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 10: Reeese sunny styles. These guys have really you know, kind 610 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 10: of popped up versts on the scene. Is two of 611 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 10: the best defenders at the linebacker position you're going to 612 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 10: see all of college football. So it's part of obviously 613 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 10: the players and the skill they have, it's part of 614 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 10: the development. I also think it's part of the scheme 615 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 10: because it's a very different scheme than what we saw, 616 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 10: you know, last year from Jim Knowles, who typically had 617 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 10: kind of come from over that three three five. And 618 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 10: Matt Patricia is so multiple with that NFL approach, where 619 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 10: you're getting a variety of fronts, a variety of coverages, 620 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 10: a variety of looks that you have to deal with, 621 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 10: and throughout the course of the game, he's not allowing 622 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 10: you to get a beat on things. So defensively speaking, 623 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 10: they have been absolutely lights out. And it's important because 624 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 10: that talent and obviously their coaching staff, but also on 625 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 10: the flip side, looking at their offense, it's because of 626 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 10: how scary they are on that side. 627 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 4: I mean, teams are. 628 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 10: So afraid to give this offense opportunities with the football. 629 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 10: Go back to the Washington game. Really had seven drives 630 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 10: in the entire game. You're averaging usually twelve, So people 631 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 10: are almost running four minute offense is to start games 632 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 10: just to keep Julian sand and Jeremiah Smith and Carnell 633 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 10: Tate off of the field. Now, I know obvious State 634 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 10: doesn't run at a breakneck pace either on offense, but 635 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 10: still it goes to show you the respect that I 636 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 10: think a lot of teams have and what they think 637 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 10: of this team as a whole. 638 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 4: But a lot of credit goes. 639 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 10: To Ryan Day and you know, giving Brian Harlan that opportunity, 640 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 10: who's done a tremendous job with the offense, bringing joy 641 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 10: and sane along and really, you know, finding a freshman 642 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 10: and Bo Jackson, who's really emerged is probably their best 643 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 10: running back at this point too. For a team that 644 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 10: I think is going to be in the National championship 645 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 10: hunt once again. You know, that's that's a lot of 646 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 10: credit you're giving a young man to be able to 647 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 10: take over at that specific position, to be able to carry 648 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 10: the rock for you. But that's how this Ohio State 649 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 10: is kind of Ohio State team has emerged this year 650 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 10: after all the talent that's gone on the. 651 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: NFL Big Noon kicked off ken Eastern Ohio State in Champagne. 652 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: I was there last week. The outcome was not my 653 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: favorite outcome of all time. 654 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 10: A lot of us loved it, Actually, Colin, a lot 655 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 10: of us here in the Midwest we're not surprised by 656 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 10: I loved it. 657 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: I bet uh no no tears. Great seeing you man. 658 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: You do just such a nice job. Thanks Brady,