WEBVTT - Steve and Paige Dimakos Break Down the 2021 NFL Draft 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.479 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.040 Steve Smith Senior and this is a cut to it 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:16.600 bonus episode. Good do It, Good do It. They're getting 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.840 down to do it, Good do It. Today we have 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:24.440 a different episode. No, no, don't fret. Gerard Little John 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.440 is still in the building. Unfortunately, this is all football 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:33.400 and so he Gerard allowed me to go ahead and 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:37.320 um do my own thing today. So have the opportunity 0:00:37.840 --> 0:00:43.120 to work with a past guest, page Demacos on football. 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.879 We're just breaking down some of the pre draft and 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:50.120 some of the outstanding quarterbacks that are heading into the draft, 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:54.360 and then also obviously easy talking about some wide receivers 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:58.640 and dabbling in the DBS. So I hope you enjoy 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:04.800 uh the pre draft slash, free agency slash heading into 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.400 the off season. We cut to it Steve Smith Sr. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.600 And Gerard Little John. But Gerard has allowed me to 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:14.200 stare the ship solo today, so I hope you enjoy it. 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:22.319 Appreciate it. God bless man. It's it's the time of 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.760 the year where everybody starts to question quarterback one. It's 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.360 my favorite time of the year where everybody starts to 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:32.720 manufacture storylines about why, uh, insert quarterback is not going 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:34.720 to be QB one. So I know that it's officially 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:38.759 draft season because that started recently. Do you know why 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:45.600 that is so much manufactured information? Specially with why especially 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:50.360 with quarterbacks. I think the reality is fans care about 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:53.800 that position so much, right, so when you're talking about it's, 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.960 it's a it's it's such a polarizing discussion points, so 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:01.560 people are so int sit in it. And then on 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:05.560 top of that, obviously, when you're evaluating a prospect, you 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:09.040 can do your best, but there's no sure thing. Right 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.320 as much as we want to say Trevor Lawrence is 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:16.200 a absolute sure thing, you can't actually quantify that because 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:20.160 everything that happens in the NFL. Yes, he can have 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:24.360 unbelievable traits, great arm, great accuracy, But if he goes 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.960 to the wrong system or Urban Meyer ends up failing 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.120 as a coach, that might be more on the system 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.880 and less about the player, and that has to factor in. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.040 And people just don't really talk about that that much. Well, 0:02:36.240 --> 0:02:39.000 people don't really you know why they can't talk about 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.400 that because they don't know about it exactly, and they're 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:46.200 not in those places. And so but here's another piece 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:50.799 of the puzzle that I think one that people don't 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.080 really realize this at this point of time. And it 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.840 took me probably about my second year of being at 0:02:56.840 --> 0:03:00.239 the combine being an analyst, that I really realized why 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:05.160 and what the combine is for. The combine is not 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:12.480 a place where they talk good about you. Do you 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.239 know what the combine is. It is a place where 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:17.040 they fill in the gaps of what you don't do 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:21.640 well and why haven't you done well? Right? And so 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.640 let's start it off with let's bypass Trevor Lawrence because 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:29.600 that is low hanging fruit, right, Trevor. I had the 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.960 opportunity to see Trevor Lawrence throw, and I summarize it 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:38.040 like this. I had my question marks about him until 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:42.840 I went to see him play when dug down Deeper 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.520 and looked at some film and what I really loved 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.760 about Trevor Lawrence is you imagine six ft six, two 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.880 thirteen pounds, the inability to lift weights because of a 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:58.720 non um a, a torm labor or whatever degree of 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:03.000 labor straining has non throwing shoulder. He has not been 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.760 able for the last two months, possibly or longer, we 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:10.640 don't know been able to lift, so he hasn't been 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:15.360 able to get into his body start to develop his 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:21.120 NFL football body and a football body is different. And 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:25.919 why is that difference, Because we'll talk about some guys 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.640 on this list of players, especially why receivers that lack 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.039 muscle structure and why is that important? Because when you 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:38.159 have a guy like a let's see a Khalil mag 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.039 that can run a four four or four or five, 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.720 chase you down and dripping wet after things, given you 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.800 are a hundred and seventy five pounds, that's why muscle 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.440 mass is an important task because if they're going to 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:54.200 invest all this money into you and you all you 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.160 gotta do is get on the skateboard and you're out 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:59.520 for the season. You that skateboard hits a rock and 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.160 you know longer can play. That means now they have 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:06.799 no r o I return on their and everybody wants 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:14.000 an r o I everybody. So yes, it is a business, 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.240 but the fan is an entertainment and it's an avenue 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:22.320 and opportunity to air their grievances, to complain about their team, 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:26.200 to uh put down a player. But at the end 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.120 of it. It's all about for the league, for the 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:34.200 teams they return on their investment and also um having 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.400 a ten or twenty x return, you know, having so 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:41.279 much more returned and they put into it that it 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:44.880 makes it worth it. A great example is the New 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:49.000 Orleans Saints when they when Sean Payton signed Drew Brees. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:56.760 When you say ten x return on what they now 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.200 on the flip side, right, you look at like the 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:04.479 trade to facilitate for some of the recent cornerbacks right 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.800 that you've seen happen in the NFL. Right where you're 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.440 watching the Rams giveaway first round picks like they just 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.120 have them forever, right, and you're going, Okay, are you 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.240 going to acquire more first round picks? Or like, how 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.200 exactly are you doing this? Right? Because that's the most 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.360 valuable asset as you're talking about. It's like the stock market. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.160 You're investing, you're trying, you're going and you're looking at 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.799 things and you're going, Okay, when I, when I do 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:32.480 all the homework, this is the best case scenario for me. 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:36.520 And still, how often are people missing out on prospects? 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.680 I mean, there's the reason that head coaches and gms 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.440 get fired and people move on is because this system 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.359 is not perfect and you can't quantify everything that it 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.680 takes to be a great prospect, and there are a 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:53.440 lot of things that are you know, intangibles that don't 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:55.680 show up on the fit, that don't show up in 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.760 the film room, that don't show up on a stat sheet. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:07:00.320 And that's why, to me, the important part of the 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:04.000 combine has always been the interviews that actually happened behind 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:07.040 the scenes that the fans don't see, nobody sees except 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.800 the players and the coaching staffs, and that's the important 0:07:09.840 --> 0:07:11.760 information they walk away from because at the end of 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:14.920 the day, most coaches and gms go into that knowing 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.640 everything they need to know physically on the film from 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:20.920 what they've seen from the player. Right, there's very few 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.600 players that are actually going to either raise or lower 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:26.280 their stock coming out of there unless they bomb an interview. 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.640 And that happens a lot, happens a lot, it does, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.720 it does. So let's let's let's dig deep in here. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:37.160 So let's go with Justin Fields. Okay, what do what 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:40.120 do you What do you like or dislike about Justin Fields? 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:43.080 So let me start off by saying, I think it's 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:47.880 an incredibly unfair that Justin Fields seems to be getting 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:52.000 knocked for what we would call helmet scouting. Right, So 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:55.800 you're looking at the Ohio State emblem and people are going, well, 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.800 he played at Ohio State, so he's not going to 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.400 have success in the NFL. And the reason are saying 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.040 that is because there's a list of quarterbacks from that 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.960 university that have failed in the NFL. And what I 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:10.400 would tell argue back to that person, because that is 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:13.320 the number one thing I see on Twitter right is 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:17.320 is well he went to I have steady sucks. Yeah, dude, 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:21.600 trust me, I'm like less and less every day. But yeah, 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.960 that's a that's a smart move. But Fields, he is 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:30.480 the only quarterback of the recent grouping of guys that 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:34.640 actually had a first round grade from most people. Like 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.520 I understand, Dwayne Haskins got drafted in the first round, 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:41.720 but that's because Dan Snyder knew him growing up and 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.920 he went into the draft room and said, you're drafting 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.320 this guy. That was not what the coaching staff and 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:48.960 the GM wanted to do. Dan Snyder went in and said, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.319 this is what we're doing. Dwayne Haskins was not a 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.320 first round guy, and so I don't think it's unfair 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:57.200 to put Justin Fields into that category. I also think 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.440 it's just when you look at a prospect. One of 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.959 the most important, slash impressive seasons we have seen thus 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.120 far has been Justin Fields from two years ago, right, 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:11.960 an unbelievable season. Then he comes into this this season. 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:17.080 The toughness that he had to outplay Trevor Lawrence in 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:20.520 the biggest stage. Okay, he went toe to toe. That's 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.200 the letter. I look at that memory and I go, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:26.559 those moments matter. It's what Deshaun Watson did so well. Right, 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:28.720 you come up and show up in those big moments. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.720 He has that it factor, that wind factor. He went 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:36.640 he was injured, he was hurting, He went up against 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:40.440 Clemson and he was the start, not Trevor. Trevor is excellent, 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:44.160 but the better quarterback that day was Justin Fields. And 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:47.280 I don't understand why the kids get knocked. I really don't. Well. 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.360 One one of the reasons he's getting knocked is because 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:54.120 of what you say, school success and the suit right, 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:58.439 the saying not that people are looking at trade trade 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:04.439 lands a system and understand this a scheme is a scheme. Right. 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:07.920 One of the things we look at what's going on 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:12.319 is how many players are getting traded right now or 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.920 are no longer on their teams because or soon to 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:21.440 be not on their team because they cannot perform well 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:28.120 enough consistently in their current scheme. Because here's a question. 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.640 Here's the question for you about the scheme, because I 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.760 think this is really and I love your perspective on it. 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:36.640 Does it say more though about the coach and the 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.760 arrogance of like the yet of the scheme. I'm gonna 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:45.040 say where you're going. I'm gonna say all. And here's 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.840 why it's all you're saying. A scheme can be good 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:52.800 and bad. Great example of a scheme, The Los Angeles 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.720 Rams have a scheme, right, Kyle Shanahan has a scheme. 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:02.400 Matt Shaw played that scheme in that scheme very well 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:06.880 under Gary Kubiak and Kyle Shanahan. Would you not agree. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.160 Jimmy Garoppolo at times of play has played exceptionally well 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:20.280 in that scheme, Okay, Kevin Walters love him play exceptional 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.480 in that scheme. Went to Tennessee and you never heard 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:28.680 of from him again. Sometimes schemes can help and hurt you, 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.080 meaning you can adapt to the scheme so much that 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:36.079 your inability to adapt when you become when you get 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.680 out of that scheme, all of a sudden, you become 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.640 a dinosaur and don't even know why. You find you 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:48.760 find yourself being extinct because you've mastered the scheme and 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.880 then you unfortunately are released or you go to another 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.720 team and you can't figure out the new scheme. It happens, 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:01.199 for sure, right just it's just Westwalk has been a 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:10.240 dynamic player with two quarterbacks, primarily in the slot. But 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.200 when he was in Miami, Miami game up for a 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:17.360 coke and a back of chips, and he comes out 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:20.920 and he's one of the best slot receivers to ever play. 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:27.239 Master in the scheme. Now, is it a It's indictment 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:32.000 on how idiotic Miami was. Absolutely, but it also shows 0:12:32.000 --> 0:12:36.120 how dysfunction they were and how their scouting department struggled. 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.640 They had the scheme that didn't fit the player and 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.840 sometimes and and I have a coworker named Mike rob 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:45.840 that I never used this without telling him. He always says, 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:50.280 too many coaches rely on the exes and oh's and 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:55.640 don't give enough credit to the Jimmy's and Joe's. I 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:00.439 love that right, because it is about understanding what your 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.760 player can do in the scheme, but also enhancing your 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:10.520 scheme and adjusting your scheme to the player. That's exactly 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.280 that you think exactly because I think the best example 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.760 for me is, you know, you look at a John 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.360 Harball and the Ravens and they completely revamp what they 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:24.760 do for Lamar. Yeah until I'll start until yeah, until 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:26.600 and then and then for whatever reason, and then I 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:28.680 look at them and I go, okay, so now what's 0:13:28.720 --> 0:13:31.560 the next progression? Maybe gets some more talent for Lamar 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.640 so that you can't continue to build off of that. 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.400 But that's that is an example of I I see 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.439 as the quarterback position is the most important position. It's 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:43.880 what we're all talking about. Why are so many coaches 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.360 so I don't know, arrogant or stuck in the ways 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.240 to not change or adapt. I don't think it's necessarily arrogance. 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:55.319 I think it's there are some coaches that are out 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:57.959 there that just they just know the scheme. Yeah, they 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:01.360 can't coach anything else. They can't because they have they 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:04.640 have gotten a PhD or major only in that right. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.040 They know this type of offense. And that's why they 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:11.400 only go to certain teams, and this coaches stays with 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.199 that coach, and that player stays with that player, because 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.040 then they go to these other schemes and it's like, 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.400 that doesn't make sense. I've played in I played an 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:24.120 old school West Coast George Seyferts West Coast, Gary Kubiak's 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:26.480 West Coast. Struggled in that for a while, took me 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:30.240 a lot to adapt to. And then I played in 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:34.160 a version of New England Patriots, and then I played 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:37.880 in a number system, and all of them, some of 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:41.320 them have rules that just don't make sense, and so 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.800 I've had to adapt and figure it out, and I 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.680 made some mistakes, but I just know I've I've been 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:50.720 lucky enough to learn enough offense to go. I'm glad. 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:54.480 I'm done playing. That's that's all I go Earlier, I'm 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.920 glad played so so. One of the things that I 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:01.800 think I noticed about Justin Fields, right, every quarterback in 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.000 this draft has had a great game and a bad game. 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:09.560 The reason why with Justin Fields, why so many people 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.280 are on him a little bit, is because the quarterback, 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:19.560 the quarterback position has become such a hot topic and 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.280 a hot button where if you don't have one. If 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:25.160 you don't have a good relationship, and if you don't 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:31.240 know how to navigate through the ugly nous of miss 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:35.280 picking a quarterback, it could cost you your job. Yeah. Right, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:40.600 So Justin feels biggest his biggest weakness right now, the 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.360 processing speed. And think about it. When you're a quarterback, 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:50.560 you can't you cannot not process the play and the 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:55.480 defense quick enough. If processing it is not your forte 0:15:56.760 --> 0:16:01.160 you should not be being draft in the top five, 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.000 or if you are drafted in top five, or if 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:09.080 you are a reach, like a like a love a 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:12.880 Jordan's love for Utah State, you must sit that young man. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.680 And that's one of the things that I know. And 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.920 and here's why I know. Justin Fields was was at 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:28.440 Georgia originally. You're telling me Justin Fields cannot outplay from 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:32.120 that's a definite knock. Well, here's why he could not 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.040 play him. He could outplay him, but he didn't know 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.480 he could not outplay him from the shoulders up at 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.240 that time when he was young. Right, And not saying 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:45.400 that he's not smart, he is smart. He's a smart 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.320 young man. He's playing quarterback. There are very few dummies 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:54.920 playing quarterback. Now you can process information slower and maybe 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.320 not see it as quick, But that doesn't make you dumb. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.440 So I'm not saying Justin Fields is dumb. What I'm 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:04.959 saying is compared to processing it, the processing speed. And 0:17:05.000 --> 0:17:07.320 here's and here's why it's an unfair advantage to a 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:14.440 young man. When you look at the greats to Bree 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:21.640 processes information, Tom Brady processes information, Peyton Manning, I can 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:27.560 name them on and on right, even Jason Campbell process information. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:33.800 The disadvantage that Jason Campbell and Alex Smith had is 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:38.960 they always, either in college or in the league, had 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.959 a new coordinator at multiple times. Talks about but it's 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.639 a huge factor. Yes, think about as soon as you 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:50.639 have mastered one offense, gotta learned a new one. Figure 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.520 it out. That's like that. That would be like as 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.240 soon as you figured out your iPhone or Android, they 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.879 come and they forced a new down your throat and 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.280 you have to now be able to work. So you 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:05.920 gotta download this and download that. So that's the thing 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:09.719 with Justin Field, says he doesn't believe what he sees 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:14.280 and reacts fast enough. That's gonna allow some comfortability and 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.320 coaching and all that stuff, but he could play. Doesn't 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.840 have a lot of turnovers. Um has the oneness to 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:26.679 show uh elusiveness, not not afraid to dip his shoulder 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.400 and try, you know, and try to run somebody over. 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.440 So I really I really love that about him, right. 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.320 But the only thing I think that I don't like 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.719 that some people like us, he relies on his He 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.320 relies on his quickness a little bit too much sometimes, Yeah, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.560 because he's pretty quick. Potentially they set handspeed like four 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.240 for eight and I was like, excuse me, excuse me, 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:55.199 twitch fast twitch is not missing that young man. He 0:18:55.359 --> 0:18:59.200 is all over. Yeah, he's very very athletic. And I think, 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:01.439 I think, to me, the things that I've I've just 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.440 there are criticisms that you can take away from every 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.440 one of these quarterbacks, right, I think, not including Trevor Lawrence, 0:19:07.480 --> 0:19:10.680 who I don't think is you can, yes, he's QB one, 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.000 but you can't just automatically say he's got no flaws. 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:16.840 There are flaws. There's flaws for everybody. But I think 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.840 the biggest thing with Justin is exactly what you what 0:19:20.000 --> 0:19:22.720 you brought up right with the processing. But the thing 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:25.919 that I'm frustrated with is more so the conversation that 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:28.840 seems to be happening and the outside, which is not 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:33.000 only that um Justin Fields is not QB two, it's 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.400 that Zack Wilson has now entered this conversation of being 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:40.040 QB one even right that there's that there's NFL organizations 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.160 that are interested in Zack Wilson even ahead of Trevor Lawrence, 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.600 which I think to me is a little crazy. Some 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:50.600 people are putting him ahead of them because they already 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:52.720 know that Trevor Lawrence is not going to be there 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:56.719 when they get him exactly manufacturing storylines. Yeah, so they're like, 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:00.119 he's not gonna be there, So why why are we're 0:20:00.160 --> 0:20:04.840 gonna shop beyond our spinning lemon when we know we're 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.680 not even gonna get it. So let's go ahead. Let's 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:12.679 let's go ahead and moving forward right for sure. Zack Wilson, though, 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:14.639 you know, I think one of the one of the 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:20.120 interesting things about him, I have a unique perspective. I 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:25.359 was actually at Provo well two years ago now when 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:30.479 Utah opened up playing at b y U, and I 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.960 was on the sideline. Now you know who impressed me more? 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:35.800 It wasn't Zach Wilson. I didn't even know he played. 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:41.399 Here's why because his office A line was so bad 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.560 and so one of the weaknesses that he has is 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.959 untested under pressure. And that's not a knock, that's just 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.439 the facts. He has not been able, we have not 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:58.320 been able to see how does a young man handle pressure? 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:05.160 M like real pressure, not you cef pressure. I'm talking 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:09.440 about playing a really really good team, not a team 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:13.720 that is giving up. But I'll just put it like this, 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:19.000 a prom date. How about that? That's the code I 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:24.120 like to use. Prom date. I think for me, it's 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:26.080 not even that, it's thinking past that. Right when we 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.119 were talking about in our pre show about how the 0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.160 NFL factor has to play in more right, where it's 0:21:31.160 --> 0:21:34.399 not just it's it's yes, it's not even all the 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:36.840 players he played against his college football it's to your 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.640 Khalil mac discussion earlier, what's going to happen when it's 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:42.480 not Ohio State that's rushing you? It's uh, I don't know. 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.560 For instance, let's use Patrick Mahomes that as the latest 0:21:45.560 --> 0:21:48.600 example what happens when your offensive line can't hold up. 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.560 In Vita Van the Dominican SU and JPP and Shack, 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.840 Barrett and everybody are getting in your face NonStop. It 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.000 doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter who you are, 0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:58.880 because you can't you can if you if nobody's protecting 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:04.440 for you. Patrick Moms was not good enough to four 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:10.120 seven yards and of scrambling, Yet none of the four 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:15.200 seven yards equal to four seven yards of total rushing 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:20.520 for the knee. There's a lot of backpedaling. That brother was. 0:22:20.880 --> 0:22:22.800 You know what, I haven't seen a brother run that 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.960 much until the opening line in a horror movie, because 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:28.320 we all know on every horror movie who dies first, 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:34.600 it's always the black dude. Always, it's always always the brothers. 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.159 It was in a horror movie, open and saying for 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:40.240 four quarters though it was a horror movie, for him, 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:50.440 for being honest, it was it wasn't too good. What 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:55.840 kind of team do you believe should reach out and draft, 0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:01.200 Zach Wilson, Uh, Well, I think there's who I think 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:03.000 should do it, and then I think who's going to 0:23:03.080 --> 0:23:05.919 be probably dumb enough, and it's not gonna be a 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:11.719 good scenario. Right, Oh, I like to start with then, Okay, 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.679 so let's start with where there's a lot of pressure, right, 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:19.320 Arguably the most pressure, and the offensive line isn't great, 0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.800 the weapons aren't the best, and I don't trust what 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:25.880 they're doing because I had to have, you know, ten 0:23:25.880 --> 0:23:27.440 plus years of showing us that they can't do. And 0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:30.000 that's New York Jets, right that's where he's getting He's 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.440 getting mocked to a lot. There's a lot of discussion 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:36.040 that they like him, Do we trust? Do we trust 0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:39.400 New York with that media market and all that pressure 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.360 and everything that they're able to do to be able 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.160 to bring in a guy who probably in a best 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.239 case scenario would have some time right to sit and 0:23:47.280 --> 0:23:50.160 maybe learn the position, but we all know that's very 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.960 rare for today's quarterbacks when they come in have to 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:56.439 be ready to rock. That is a scenario that I 0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:00.240 think is very likely to play out, and unfortunately for 0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:04.400 Zach Wilson. I think that will play out unfavorably for 0:24:04.480 --> 0:24:07.919 him and unfavorably for the Jets because I don't have 0:24:08.040 --> 0:24:10.320 a lot of faith in that team to be able 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:13.399 to upgrade at the positions that they need to and 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.160 and be able to protect him, be able to run 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:19.080 the football, be able to They need to add a 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.480 lot offensively to get that to to a position where 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.960 you can fairly evaluate the quarterback because they need they 0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:29.120 need some corners, they need an edge rusher, they need 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.240 a quarterback, and I also I think they need some 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:34.720 office a line. The question is going to be how 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:37.720 are they going to maneuver themselves through the off season, 0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:40.879 which Robert salis what I love hearing is he's going 0:24:40.960 --> 0:24:44.800 to run the same type of offense like Kyle Shanahan. 0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:48.440 So that tells me that they're gonna not allow as 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.359 much pressure to be the onus on the quarterback. So 0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:55.760 that's good for sure. But who's gonna be that running 0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.840 back that they can depend on? Who can who can 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:05.760 execute that zone scheme offense that they want to run? 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:09.640 Who are the lineman because whatever they were running last 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:13.119 year it didn't fit them. So I'm not sure is 0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:15.959