1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley. I almost famous in depth. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: I love you thing. You're just living your truth every 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: moment of every day, and I just love it so much. 4 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: The video the other day, ash where Jared posts and 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: of you just farting away on the couch really got me. No, 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: he didn't. I don't care about anything. Maybe I should 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 1: care more. Oh that's so cute, Ben. Oh my gosh, 8 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: congratulations face to face. I'm so happy for you guys. Thanks, Caitlin. 9 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Good to see you, so good to see you. Yeah. 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: I just got in yesterday. I literally landed. I had 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,199 Speaker 1: my last Nashville show um for casting, and then UM 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: like wanted to say huge to everyone who would help me. 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: So I took everybody out and I did dip early 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: because I was like, I gotta get up at five 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: and go dance for the whole day. So I landed. Yes, 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: I went straight to the dance studio and just like 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: got my ass kicked. Okay, so you're in l A 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, Caitlin, I'm like stressed by how 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: much you have to travel, and especially since I read 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: that recently you felt like you had to talk yourself 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: out of a panic attack on a five hour flight, 22 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: So that's never fun. My sister has been going through 23 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: something where she's been having a lot of pants panic attacks, 24 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: and especially they hit on flights and you get so 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: caustrophobic and you have like nowhere to turn. I mean, 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: how are you keeping up with this travel schedule of yours? 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: And you know what's funny, remember like a year ago 28 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: on our show, you were like everywhere, like you told everybody, 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: We're like, this is the year that I'm going to 30 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: relax now and it starts and I can't do anything out. 31 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah that was a really really cute joke I made 32 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: on your show. Uh yeah, Honestly, you have to take 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: everything day by day. It's crazy. It's I always am 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: so open about because usually when I go through my 35 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: um like hormones, hormones, it's it's like clockwork every month 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: for me that I'm going to get depressed, that I'm 37 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: going to get anxious, And if I add all the 38 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: things I have going on, if I don't just like you, like, 39 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 1: take it day by day or sometimes hour by hour, 40 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: it really just piles up. And that's what I had 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: to do, just like to get on that plane yesterday 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: to come to l A I was like, oh no, 43 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: this feels like one of those times where I am 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: like I could easily panic or I could go into 45 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,639 Speaker 1: like a really bad place because I have so much 46 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: going on and I'm so tired, and I was coming 47 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: off and getting sick, and I honestly just had to 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: like have a little like check in with myself. I 49 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: made sure government oils with me on the plane. I 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: have like my headset where I listened to a flight meditation. Uh. 51 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm just like set up for success now 52 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: on a plane in case I feel that way. Uh, 53 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: And it's it's tricky, but yeah, I felt that way. 54 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: And then you know what, I actually dancing for five 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: hours yesterday with anxiety, which I don't know how I 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: did that, but it's like I came home and I 57 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: needed to decorate my hotel room with Christmas decorations to 58 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: make myself feel better. Wait, that's so cute. We're watching 59 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: her right now. She's got blue christmaslides going around the 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: canopy of her bed. How at least at least predictable 61 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: with your cycle? Yes, it's extremely Like I said, clockwork, 62 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: I write it down. I have an app I track everything. 63 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: I could literally I've got it down to a science 64 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: of like when I'm going to feel this way and 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: I'm so happy doing what I'm doing that it almost 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: balances out because it's not like I'm doing things where 67 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, why am I doing this to myself? Why 68 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: am I putting myself in these situations? Why am I 69 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: overworking myself? I get into that dance studio and I'm like, 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: how lucky am I right now? Like this is a 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: dream come true? And it helps because I'm just so 72 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: happy to be there. So, I mean, because this is 73 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: a great topic because so many even coming off of 74 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, like how do you typically 75 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: processed through this? Then I mean, because Caitlin, your life 76 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: hasn't slowed down. And then as you said, you said, 77 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: so I'm an introvert and something for me if I'm 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: and I've been in this where you're on a flight, 79 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: you've been gone from home for three weeks. Every place 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: you go has a new demand and a new kind 81 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: of minds, which I have to get to. You get tired, Uh, 82 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,559 Speaker 1: it feels like things pile up. And then, like you said, 83 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: then last night's people, I want to take you out 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: to dinner or take out the party, which is great 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: because they love you and they want to celebrate you, 86 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: but it's one more thing. And so how are you 87 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: keeping yourself from like going into the extreme and crashing 88 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: and burning here? I have learned to say no. I mean, 89 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: I have to prioritize my health. I know what that 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: feels like to get on a plane, and if I'm 91 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: hungover and have anxiety, it is being over for me. 92 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: So I need to like prioritize my mental health. No. 93 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: What like sleep, I've function on sleep, so you know, 94 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: I need to get eight hours. Last night when I 95 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: was done, some people were like going to dinner, Um, 96 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: I want to see Tasia because we've in each other. 97 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I have to put myself first and 98 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: say no, I'm gonna go get my room calm and 99 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: cozy and lighted candle, and I'm going to try and 100 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: sleep for like as many hours as i can to 101 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: just like recharge my batteries. Because I weirdly enough, I 102 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: am an introvert and an extrovert, and I love being 103 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: alone and I love having the time to myself, and 104 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: I just I kind of have both in me, and 105 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: so I need to know when I'm like having the 106 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: energy to be an extrovert and when I don't and 107 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: need to recharge my batteries because I'm just like like 108 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: it's one or the other. Now, you said that it 109 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: can affect your relationship with Jason a lot of times 110 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: because he has to deal with these moods of yours. 111 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: What has been an example just because like we like 112 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: to get into the dirt here, like of a really 113 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: bad fight you've had, but you knew it was just 114 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: because of the like the state that you were in 115 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: that week. Oh that's a really I That's the the 116 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: scary part is I don't even know if it was 117 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: something specific, Like I don't know if I can pinpoint like, oh, 118 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: this was what the fight was over. But Jason and 119 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: I are actually really good fighters. That sounds like like 120 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: when we fight, it's like I I am emotional and 121 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: I do react with emotion, and I always say he 122 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: reacts with logic, but like he's actually tapped into his 123 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: more emotional side, which is nice because then he can 124 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: understand more where I'm coming from. Instead of just being 125 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: like I need to fix this, what do I need 126 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: to do? You're being like unreasonable? He's like, okay, is 127 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: it like at a time where you're feeling anxiety, like 128 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: how could I help, and then we'll like get to 129 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: the root of the issue. And so it's not always 130 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: like that, but when I am really like in a 131 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: low place of anxiety, I think he just knows to 132 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: not to take things personal. Um. And it's also something 133 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: that I need to work on. I just like bark 134 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: things when I'm in a mood and I'm just like like, 135 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: I'll just snap back and they'll be like, Caitlin, it's 136 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: stronger than me. It's stronger than me, and I think 137 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: he knows that, and there's just a lot of forgiveness 138 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: at that time of the month. But it's I'm trying 139 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: to think of a specific fight. Um. I think it 140 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: was like more I know what it is. Jason doesn't 141 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: like if he feels like someone is demanding from him, 142 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: Like he's totally fine if I asked him politely to 143 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: do something, he would do it acad If I seem demanding, 144 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna bark back at me and it's going to 145 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: turn into something that was absolutely nothing because he doesn't 146 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: like feeling that way. And I feel like that's what 147 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: was our probably last big fight that makes sense. Well 148 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: we uh, Caitlin, we just mentioned um and and thank 149 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: you for sharing all that. Um. But we also Ben, 150 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: you're so cute because I just like went on a 151 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: rant there and I don't even know if I was 152 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: making sense, and I went on for song. You're like, 153 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: that makes perfect sense. Like it does make sense. You 154 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: made sense. You're good at this. You're good at talking, Caitlin. 155 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: It's a it's a gift that you have surprised of 156 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: the world. Um. But talking about things that you're up to. Uh, 157 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna get through a lot of them here, uh 158 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: in this time that we have with you. But Dance 159 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: with the Stars Live to two is something you're gonna 160 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: participate in. Uh. Tickets are and sale now. To purchase 161 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: tickets and get the full list of tour dates, please 162 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: visit d w t S Tour dot com. V I 163 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: P packages, giving fans a chance to purchase premium tickets, 164 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: pre show cast, question answer passes, Exclusive merchandise and photo 165 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: opportunities will be available through Dance with the Stars Tour 166 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: dot Com. No, that was really good. I thought I 167 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: was gonna have to say all that, but you just yeah, 168 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: got you, Caitlin. With the Dancing with the Stars tour, 169 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: coming off of your Off the Vine tour. Have you 170 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: ever like thought I'm just gonna say no, like I'm 171 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: just not gonna do it, or are you like very 172 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: excited every time? It's such a good question. Um, there 173 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: are times where I'm like, why did I do this 174 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: to myself? I'm going to be an actual wreck and 175 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: I've got too much going on. My body is like 176 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: shutting down on me. But like with dancing, it's so 177 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: different from me because this is genuinely something I like 178 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: that made me happy my whole life. Dancing was something 179 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: that helped my I had O c D when I 180 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: was little, to the max it was nuts. It helped 181 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: me with O c D. It helped me with anxiety, 182 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: It helped me with my parents divorce, It helped me 183 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: go through so many things in my life because I 184 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: truly loved to do it. And when I kind of 185 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: got to a point in my career of dance where 186 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm really not good enough, Like it's 187 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: only so much to love what you do, but I'm 188 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: really not at the level where I can do this 189 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: as a career. So for me to actually go back 190 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: and be able to go and dancing with the stars. 191 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: When the mirror all I thought that was, I was like, Okay, 192 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: there you go. Proof to myself. I am good enough 193 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: I would dancer, and I thought I would never be 194 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: able to dance again. So when they brought up an 195 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: opportunity of tour, like this is literally what twelve year 196 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: old Caitlin was working towards in her whole life. Was 197 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: going to be on tour bus and dance in front 198 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: of crowds with a bunch of professional dancers. And there's 199 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: no way in hell I could say no to that. 200 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: And although I'm going to be so tired and I 201 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: hate that I have to be away from Jason and 202 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: the dogs for this long, I'm going to look back 203 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: on this and like it's just going to be the 204 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: most rewarding thing in the world to me. I was 205 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: gonna say, like, if you were going to ever say 206 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: no to anything, it just could not be this one. Exactly. 207 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: Like if they were like, Caitlin, do you want to 208 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: take over on the Generous Show, I'd be like, I 209 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: might have to take it. I am tired of dancing, absolutely. 210 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, I can't wait till next year we talked 211 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: to you again. We're like, hey, remember you said you're 212 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: not going to do the talk show. Well, oh my god, 213 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: there's an opening at up, so it's like an actual possibility. 214 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: The good news is, I don't think I am qualified 215 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: for the el position, like bringing like Ryan Reynolds to 216 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: take over. They're not. That's a that's a level a Canadian. 217 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm like down on the d level. No, I don't 218 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: think you're on day. Speaking of not feeling qualified, you 219 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: did just finish your podcast here we're gonna talk about that. 220 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: You are getting ready to jump in the Dancing with 221 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: the Stars. Um, the last few weeks of this season 222 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: of the Bachelor are airing right now, So you're finishing 223 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: your second full season as the host of co host 224 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor atte Was it difficult for you at all? 225 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: At any point? Did you feel prepared for this? No, 226 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't feel prepared for that role in any way, 227 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: shape or form. I of course love hosting. I did 228 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: on my podcast every day, but it's like me being 229 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: me and it's my platform and I'm able to just 230 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, talk about anything, I mean anything on there 231 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: and it'll go. Um. Stepping into a role where you 232 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: are responsible to carry a show and be a professional 233 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: and read a teleprompter and be able to, you know, 234 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: deliver these like iconic lines that don't belong to you. 235 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: I felt so scared one because I didn't know what 236 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: my role was going to be. When we first went 237 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: into it, I was like, Oh, we're just gonna mentor 238 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: show up for a couple of dates, like I'll probably 239 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: get to go home in the middle of it, come back, 240 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: like maybe be there for the finale. I don't know. 241 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know I was going to be handing out 242 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: a final rows. I didn't know I was gonna be 243 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: posting not there on stage for the Men tell all, 244 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: like we had no idea what we were doing. So 245 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: going into the second season, I did feel a little 246 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: more prepared, but again I have this like imposter syndrome 247 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: where I feel like the fraud police are gonna be 248 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: called and I'm gonna go like somebody's gonna be like you, 249 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: you can't do this role. This is not your role, 250 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: and like you know, and the internet has there are 251 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 1: things that they are going to say about it that 252 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: might even convince me. I'm like, do I deserve to 253 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: be here? Because it is such an important, huge, iconic 254 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: role that's been you know, with Chris Harrison has been 255 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: that face for so long and so UM, I definitely 256 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: get imposter syndrome, but I also love doing it so 257 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: much and it's it's something that I feel like, you know, 258 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: every year I want to do I want to try 259 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: and be better at everything that I do and to 260 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: step into a role like that, And I'm trying to 261 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: think of it as like it's just a different perspective. 262 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: It's I'm not trying to be Chris Harrison. I'm not 263 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: trying to be like that host. I'm trying to just 264 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: be Caitlin that has knowledge and insight and a different 265 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: perspective to help the bachelortte just thrive in her role. Well, 266 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: I do want to ask a follow up question that though, um, 267 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: tell us more about this. So you, I mean, Caitlin, 268 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: your resume over the last five years as as impressive 269 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: as anybody's inn entertainment. Uh. Um, you're the Bachelorette, you 270 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: have UM a top ten podcast. Uh You've been got 271 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: you received so many accolades for that. You step in 272 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: into Dance with the Stars, you win the mirror Ball, 273 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: You'll leave Dance with the Stars, you become the co 274 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: host of the Bachelorette for two seasons, successfully doing it well, 275 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: stepping into that rule. Now you're gonna join go on tour. 276 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: You just finished another podcaster. I mean you've got engaged, 277 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: but I'm talking to entertainment. Yet you still speak to 278 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: this impostor syndrome. Can you tell us more about that? 279 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: I know I always do that. I always dive into 280 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: this with my friends in Nashville who are country singers, 281 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: where they are like the best of the best, so talented, 282 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: they've been singing their whole life, and they get up 283 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: there on stage and think like, well, why me and 284 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: how did I get here? And like they have those thoughts, 285 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, but what, you were literally born to 286 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: do this. And that's what they say to me there, 287 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: like you were born to do this. And I always 288 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: have to say back, like two, when I was little, 289 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: I would walk around and I would want to host 290 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: and interview people all the time I was little. It 291 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: was like something that I love to do. I love 292 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: getting to know people. I loved interviewed them. I love 293 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: being interviewed. I thought it was just so much fun. 294 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: And so I'm trying to remind myself like this is 295 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: where I'm supposed to be, and I need to stop 296 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: having the imposter syndrome because I would not wish that 297 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: on anyone. And I have so many listeners from the 298 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: podcast or people reach out on Instagram where they're so 299 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: afraid to go after what they want to do because 300 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: they don't think they would succeed or they aren't good enough. 301 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I've been there. I felt out because 302 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: a dancer, But I think, you know, it's just that 303 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: saying of like you would have so much more regret. 304 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: And what's worse if you go do something that you're 305 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: gonna step outside of your comfort zone or take a 306 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: big opportunity or leap and do something that you love 307 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: to do, wouldn't you rather quote unquote fail which only 308 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: means you're going to grow from it, or would you 309 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: rather have a regret? And so I just keep telling 310 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: I self that over and over, like just like, of course, 311 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: somebody is always going to be more qualified for the 312 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: job or better than you in certain ways, but you're 313 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna be where you are for a reason, and you 314 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: have to just like marinate in that and be like 315 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: I'm here and I'm doing this right now, and if 316 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: I fail or if it doesn't work out, or say 317 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: the Bachelor doesn't want me anymore. I did it, I tried, 318 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: I learned. I grew so much from that experience, and 319 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: you've got to take that and go to the next thing. 320 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: I love that because regret is like one of the 321 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: worst feelings that you are almost always avoid having. Yes, 322 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: so true. Okay, let's get into like a little bit 323 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: of the Bachelor relationships right now. You watch Katie and 324 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Blake get engaged, and like, let's be honest, now that 325 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: they broke up, did you really feel like that was 326 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a long term thing? Because watching that finale, 327 00:16:54,400 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: I didn't feel it. Okay, I don't know, because I agree. 328 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: Watching the finale, I was like, the way it happened 329 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: to get there didn't feel right because you're like, oh, 330 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: did she really want Blake or did people drop out? 331 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: And then that's who she ended up with because I 332 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: want to pose. Yeah, And it kind of felt like 333 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: a joke almost to that, Like it was kind of 334 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: like like he was like I even love you, and 335 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: she's like, oh, I haven't love you, and then it 336 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: was like it was like he was gonna teaser like 337 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: maybe I won't propose and maybe I will. It was 338 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: like keeping her on her toes and I was like, 339 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: that doesn't feel romantic, But I will say that knowing 340 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: Katie and hanging out with her after like they were 341 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: solid and they were so good and I was actually 342 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: like they could work. Um, I don't know what the 343 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: heck happened. I still like, I want I've wanted to 344 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: just sit down and talk to her for so long, 345 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: but I mean, we're both busy. But I still don't 346 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: know what happened. Because I really thought, Okay, it's gonna 347 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: be challenging for them with him gone and you know, 348 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: going into from places and she's in Seattle and then 349 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: she's moving and she's always out and about and he was, 350 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: you know, really passionate about what he was doing. And 351 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: I was like, that's gonna be really tricky. I've done 352 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: long distance before. But you know what, I actually thought 353 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 1: they would make work. I was wrong. A couple of 354 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: other relationships in Bachelor Nation. Obviously, um, we're in the 355 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: midst of Michelle's season right now. This group of guys 356 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: seemed to be a great group of guys. You're there 357 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: in person around them. First question is how much interaction 358 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: did you actually get to have with these guys during 359 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: this season? And not a ton. I mean again, you 360 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: want to keep it professional. So you want because when 361 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: we come in for these moments, like it's so serious, 362 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: Like I have a hard time because I always smile 363 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: when I talk, and so in these moments I have 364 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: to remember, like this, these people's emotions are so invested 365 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: and this is real. Obviously we've we've all been there 366 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: and we know how real it is. And so you 367 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: want to keep it so you know, I'm not just 368 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: shooting this with you know, Nate or something and then 369 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: have to go in and he's like, oh, there's Caitlin. 370 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: Like you want it to be real and serious, and 371 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: like I want Michelle to get to know them the best, 372 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: and I don't want to, you know, have my opinion 373 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: of them jade hers, or get in the way of anything. 374 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: So um our interaction is very little. We you know, 375 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: if we pass by in the hallway, Hey how's it going, 376 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: But uh, not a lot, because we really want Michelle 377 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: to form her own relationships and opinions. And I'm such 378 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: a loudmouth and you know me, I could talk for 379 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: hours to a wall and if I knew anything about 380 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: these guys too much. I would want to just tell 381 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: her everything. So are you able to get like, do 382 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: you feel like you're able to get a reasonable judge 383 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: of character on these guys? Then through the process, are 384 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: you that like that much separated where you're kind of like, hey, 385 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm just letting Michelle fill me in when she wants 386 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: to fill me in, and I'll get a little updates 387 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: here and there. It's kind of a mixture of both 388 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: because obviously, when we're on the date, we really see 389 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: them and how they interact, and they all talk to 390 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 1: us and we're part of the date, so that's different, 391 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: and you can really got to get a good read 392 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: of character on the dates because you're seeing also when 393 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: the cameras just aren't on them and when like you're 394 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: just there watching and getting a judge of character for 395 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: all of these guys. Um. But other than that, we 396 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: do let Michelle. I mean, that's one of the different 397 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: most difficult parts for me being in this position is 398 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: wanting to just be such a good friend and be like, hey, 399 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: send that guy home. I know too much. Uh So 400 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: you really have to like keep it, you know, I guess, 401 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: separate and let her figure things out, but you do 402 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: get a good judge of character for sure. So then 403 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: going into the finale with Brendan and Nate, did you 404 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: expect those two to be there? Did you expect Joe 405 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: to be eliminated this week? And was there one that 406 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: you were rooting for harder than the other? Honestly, I 407 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: was shocked that Joe went home because we saw that 408 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,479 Speaker 1: like connection where she used the word soul mate and 409 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: she really like it was a slow build up, but 410 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: they got there. It wasn't like they didn't get there. 411 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: And the way she was telling him, like I could 412 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: see you, I could really see this working for us, 413 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: and I'm following for you, and that soulmate material. Like, 414 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,880 Speaker 1: I was really surprised because again we chatted on that 415 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: beach and I was like, this is gonna be one 416 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: of the hardest things for her, even though she's just 417 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: so confident in her decisions and when she makes them, 418 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm solid. But I was like, I would 419 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: be a wreck because she genuinely like loved all three 420 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 1: of these guys, and Joe, to me, I thought was 421 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: almost in my mind, I'm like, was he the one 422 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: that got away? Because they were pretty special together. Okay, 423 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure what happens in the end and whatnot, 424 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: But when Joe was eliminated, Kayla, just tell me that. 425 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: You can really tell that Ashley is very excited about 426 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: this topic because all of a sudden, her arms start waving, 427 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: she starts talking faster. She's so excited to bring you 428 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: this question. I just want to it's Laurena comment. But like, 429 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: I just watched that exit and I thought, like, Okay, 430 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 1: this actually may not be over. This might be one 431 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: of those situations where she goes back to Joe at 432 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: the end of all this, and maybe not immediately, I'm 433 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: not saying like on the finale, but like down the road, 434 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: especially since they're from the same place. It was. Okay, 435 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: when I left Paradise the first time, my sister was 436 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: down there for the first couple of days, so she 437 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: knew that Jared and I definitely like there was like 438 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: something about him. And so when I got on the 439 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: phone with her in the car when I was eliminated 440 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: or like when I was, you know, decide, we all 441 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: decided that I was time for me to go home. 442 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 1: She was like, I don't think this is over, And 443 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I felt like with Joe and Michell, Okay, 444 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: well I'm not gonna say anything, um but I too 445 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: was like, I don't here's my um my worry is 446 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: she had such strong connections with so with the three 447 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: guys so hard that I'm like, whatever decision she makes, 448 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: I hope she feels solid in that decision because all 449 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: three of those guys seemed right for her. Isn't it 450 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: weird how that happens just people. It's crazy how you 451 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: can like fall from more than one person at one time. 452 00:23:53,080 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: It's weird. Remember when you just got absolutely yeah, we're 453 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: all doing it. We're all doing it now. Oh my god. Okay, 454 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: that made me think about Clayton because we all know 455 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: that Clayton is having he's staying it or something to 456 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: three girls, Uh, how did you like Clayton? And do 457 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: you know why they picked him to the Bachelor because 458 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: you've actually met him? Because we're still a little confused. 459 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: Have you guys not met him yet? No? Oh? Okay, 460 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: So I really like Clayton. I don't think we got 461 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: to see enough of him on Michelle season, and that 462 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: was very confusing because if you're gonna make him the 463 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: next Bachelor, we want to know why. Uh, And I 464 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: definitely don't think they showed enough. I do remember him, 465 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 1: and I remember going into the rooms at certain times 466 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: to drop off a date card or see how the 467 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: guys were feeling. And he was always one that really 468 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: spoke up about his emotions and his feelings, and he 469 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: was just very in tune with himself and he was 470 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 1: very um open of his securities and he just seems 471 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: like a very passionate guy with a really big heart. 472 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: And so with other options, I would have gone forward, Yeah, 473 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: for sure. But I do think Clayton's season is going 474 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: to be um incredible. But you know a lot of 475 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: times it's the women that that can really pull the 476 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: show too, and I think he's got some like entertaining 477 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: ones in there. So uh, I don't know. I am 478 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: rooting for him because he does seem like such a 479 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: good human. Um, but yeah, I got very triggered when 480 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: he's like I was intimate with more than one. I 481 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: was like, Uh, there we go, that happened. Happen? I know. Um, well, Caitlyn, 482 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: the last few minutes we have with you, I I 483 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: do have because you've now been involved, Um, you were 484 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: the bachelor during my time on the show. Um, and 485 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: for that, I've I've always been very being thankful. And 486 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: I remember you and I once having a conversation. It 487 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: was I believe it was the night in the Fantasy suite, 488 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: and you just said, Hey, life changes a lot, like 489 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: when you're the bachelorette, Like when you when you're on 490 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: the cast, it's crazy, and like, get a couple of 491 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: phone calls, you've been a couple of podcast interviews, it 492 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: become the bachelorrette And I remember just being like you're 493 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: just saying, like, I don't know how I'm going to 494 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: handle this, and then I became the Bachelor not knowing, 495 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: and like really related with that, like, hey, I have 496 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: no clue what to do here. So the question I 497 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: want to ask is is you've walked through these stages. 498 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: How has the show evolved now that you are hosting it? 499 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: You have seen the ins and out, you've interacted with 500 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: the fans. How's the show evolved since you started it 501 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: and now that you're hosting it? Oh my gosh. And 502 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 1: I've seen it evolved in crazy, crazy ways, whether that's 503 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:53,479 Speaker 1: talking about biracial relationships, mental health, suicide, eating disorders, putting 504 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: more people of color, on the show talking more about 505 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: like women empowerment, Like so many things have changed on 506 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: the show since I was on it. And it's really 507 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: crazy because you do, like obviously actors and actresses like 508 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: they work towards roles. We don't work towards this role. 509 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: We get thrown into it overnight, don't know what the 510 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: heck TV is about, editing, getting miked up like we 511 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: don't know anything, we're so naive, and then we kind 512 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: of get chewed up and spit out and it's such 513 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: a weird world to navigate. Um, and I did. I've 514 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: gone through phases with the show where I you know, 515 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: didn't support it or I didn't know what I wanted 516 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: to do with it, or if I wanted to remove myself. 517 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: And there's so many different feelings that have gone on 518 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: between myself and the show. But we're in a good 519 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: place now. But I will say, just thinking about even 520 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: like the slut shaming and the the just shame I 521 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: felt being intimate with more than one person on the 522 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: show and as a woman, and now we're celebrating that almost. 523 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how it's gonna go for Clayton. 524 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm here if he needs to shot through anything. But 525 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: you know, Hannah Brown was celebrated are having sex four 526 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: times in a windmill, and some people were like, does 527 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: that bother you that, like you didn't get that. I'm like, no, 528 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: If I opened up any doors for that to be 529 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: talked about and and celebrated, I'm so happy. But I 530 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: mean that show is evolved in in so many important ways, 531 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: whether like I said, just putting you know, even just shape, 532 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: sizes and colors being like represented on the show. And 533 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: I love that they're talking about mental health that was 534 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: never you know, like we never talked about that on 535 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: the show before, not to this extent anyways, So I'm 536 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: really proud to be a part of it and where 537 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: it's at right now, before you leave, we have to 538 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: talk a little wedding planning to let's do with speed 539 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: Round helped me. Okay, all right, so speed Round? Who 540 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: would choreograph your first dance from Dancing with the Stars 541 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: if you had to pick one person? Ardum Chick Vincent. Okay, 542 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: that's kind of obvious. Will your first dance be elaborate 543 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: like that? I kind of want it to, Like that 544 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: would be so me, like, just do this grand waltz? 545 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: I actually, do I really want to do that? Yeah? Cool? No, 546 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: I think that's awesome. I love this. What's the one 547 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: thing that you and Jason disagree on when it comes 548 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: to wedding? I think I know what it is? Is 549 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: it cost you budget? For sure? Mr Finance over there? God? Okay, 550 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: do you see the wedding being in two or three? Okay? Ben? 551 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: Do you have any what would be your ideal dinner 552 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: for all the guests? Oh? My gosh, that's actually something 553 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm panicking about because, like, You've got my mom who's 554 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: definitely allergic to garlic, my stepdad's allergic to shellfish. I'm like, 555 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: it's everybody's got something with food, and I'm like, I 556 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. And that's rests me out. 557 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: The food stresses me out. Okay, final question for you. 558 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: Take wine out of the consideration. It cannot be used here. 559 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: What is your cocktail of choice wedding day and wedding night? 560 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: Like a French seventy? What what you don't have a 561 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,479 Speaker 1: French seventy is? Oh it's so good. Oh, it's so 562 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: like European. Okay, So it's um champagne with a little 563 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: bit of gin and um. I better look this up 564 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: lion juice and lemon lemons. I'm looking this up French. 565 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: I've never heard of it, Caitlin, you are educating lemon juice. 566 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: That's okay, it's um. French seventy five is a cocktail 567 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: made from gin, champagne, lemon juice, and sugar. It's also 568 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: called the seven five cocktail. Um. Yeah, it dates to 569 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: World War One bar in Paris, a bar in Paris. 570 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: It's very like, it's super chic. Hey, that kind of 571 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: goes with your gasby theme because I know that you 572 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: guys are still kind of stuck on that. I'm so 573 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: stuck on it, like and I love, like just nice champagne. 574 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: There you go. Come. We could talk to you for hours. 575 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: We could. We could Caitlin again. Before you go, you 576 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: just finish your tour of Off the Vine Um for 577 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: your Off Divine podcast. It was wildly successful. Congratulations on that. Um. 578 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: We will be able to watch you. If you're a 579 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: fan of Caitlin or a fan of anything that Caitlin does, 580 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: you can go and visit online it Dance with the 581 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: Stars dot com. It's actually DWTS Tour dot com. You 582 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: can get tickets to the Dancer with the Stars Live Tour. 583 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristo will be there. It's gonna be a great Caitlin. 584 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: Anything to add that we've missed about the tour. Um, 585 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: It's just it's gonna be so much fun. I'm like, 586 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: and I want everybody to follow along on Instagram because 587 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be living that tour bus life and there's 588 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: gonna be some shenanigans that go down and I'm like 589 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: a frankster and people are gonna be annoyed with me. 590 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: But I do want to say before I go, actually, 591 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: look beautiful and I'm so happy for you and I 592 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: just can't wait to meet this baby. Um, and congrats 593 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: on the um the lounge. Why am I blanking on 594 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: the name stars? But we need to get sprained and 595 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: sparrows there and we've been in a little bit in 596 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: touch with their person there, but we gotta get in 597 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: touch with more. So Okay, I am so down. And 598 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: then congratulations. Tell Jess I say how she looked absolutely 599 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: stunning on your wedding day and it was just I'm 600 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: so sad I couldn't be there. Hey, I totally get it. Um, 601 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: thank you for that. What the wedding day, I will 602 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: tell you, Caitlin, Uh is everything I hoped it would be. 603 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,120 Speaker 1: It's incredible, it's fun. Soak it in, enjoy it. Uh. 604 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: And finally, if you need any tour bus tips, I 605 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: just got off the tour bus last year for the um. Well, 606 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: don't take a poop on the on the bus. Um 607 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: that ruins everything for everybody. Um and uh and get 608 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: really used to taking like dreamamine because trying to sleep 609 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: while you're driving down the road is not as easy 610 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: as you would think. Oh see, I thought it would 611 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: be like soothing. No, no, no, just wait till you 612 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: hit a little bump and you bounced three inches off 613 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: your bed. It ain't great, Galen, but hey, it's a blast. 614 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: It's so much fun. I did it with Ezra Sosa, 615 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: who was on Dancing with the Stars this year. Uh. Yeah, 616 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: so he every night Caitlin would do a little dance 617 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: number for us um in the like uh living room 618 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: of the bus when we got off the and it 619 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: was like, those memories are the best, So have fun. 620 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: We love you, Caitlin, keep up the good work. Talk 621 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: to you, love you, bye for having me, Bye bye. 622 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: Followed the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast on 623 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.