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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology. I'm pro bird rights on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: my pet dog is very disappointed in me today because

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Speaker 1: today's episode is all about cats. Cats the confusicle. That's right.

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Speaker 1: I sat down and watched one hour and forty nine

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Speaker 1: minutes of c g I human cat hybrids wiggle around

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Speaker 1: on screen, and I get the impression that if this

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Speaker 1: movie is the best Hollywood can do, that people may

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Speaker 1: be misinformed about what cats are and what they look like.

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Speaker 1: So today I'll be talking cat facts. What are domesticated cats,

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Speaker 1: where do they come from? And what are the answers

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Speaker 1: to some of the most common questions about cats. Then

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Speaker 1: we'll discuss wildcats and hand out awards to cats who

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Speaker 1: are the top of their catategories. Finally, we will discuss

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Speaker 1: the movie and offer some sensible, calm, rational critique. Discover

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Speaker 1: this and more. As we answered the ageal question what's

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Speaker 1: it like getting high off cat nip? And is the

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Speaker 1: experience similar to watching the Cats movie? So our domesticated

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Speaker 1: cats actually domesticated? Did we capture cats from the wild

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Speaker 1: and breed them to be our pets. Well. No, as

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Speaker 1: with most things, it seems that cats had to have

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Speaker 1: things their way when it comes to domestication. Our relationship

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Speaker 1: with cats as we know it today is started around

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Speaker 1: eight thousand years ago, as humans lived in agrarian societies

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Speaker 1: and the fertile Crescent. The cats were after the rodents

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Speaker 1: that plagued our farms, and humans were likely happy enough

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Speaker 1: to have these furry exterminators help out with their crops.

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Speaker 1: The Near Eastern and Egyptian wildcats were the two ancestral

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Speaker 1: lineages of the domesticated cat, the Felis catus, and these

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Speaker 1: cats decided they didn't really need to bother changing much

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Speaker 1: for us. At least on the DNA level, Domesticated cats

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Speaker 1: are remarkably similar to their wild counterparts. Unlike dogs, cat

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Speaker 1: didn't really need to change much. They already killed pests

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Speaker 1: for us at no extra charge. They were playful and

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Speaker 1: relatively non aggressive towards humans. As evolutionary geneticist even Maria

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Speaker 1: Geigl says, quote, I think there was no need to

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Speaker 1: subject cats to such a selection process since it was

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Speaker 1: not necessary to change them. They were perfect as they were.

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Speaker 1: Joining me to talk about the World's most Perfect Animal

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Speaker 1: is comedian Cat Fancier and Garfield impersonator Joey Cliff. Hey,

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Speaker 1: everybody and all the cats in the audience. You know. Now,

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Speaker 1: you might notice my voice is a little different this episode.

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Speaker 1: It's got a nice sort of raspy, lioness light quality.

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Speaker 1: That's because I am sick as a dog. How dare

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Speaker 1: you use that? I know? Well, yeah, I actually a cat.

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Speaker 1: Cat did got my tongue of I've knows everything. It's

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Speaker 1: all full of ats, all full of cats. Got cat

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Speaker 1: in my throat. Um. Fortunately, my voice did just come

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Speaker 1: back in the nick of time for this very important

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Speaker 1: episode about cats in general. We will talk about cats

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Speaker 1: the movie, but I do want to load this episode

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Speaker 1: with information about cats to kind of fight probably the

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Speaker 1: disinformation that people are getting from this movie, namely that

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Speaker 1: cats don't have butt holes, which is not true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: cats don't have butt holes? Is that that's a major

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Speaker 1: plot point of the Cats movie? Yeah, it's it's sort of. Um. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why they didn't just give them all

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Speaker 1: suspenders like they gave one of the cats and spend

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Speaker 1: I don't. God, it would have been better if they

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Speaker 1: Skimble Shanks was the one that like was okay with it.

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Speaker 1: When I owned cats as a kid, I did try

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Speaker 1: like that might have been better apparently according to the movie.

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Speaker 1: being eaten by that thing, whereas if it's form fitting,

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is fashion. I got it right, right.

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Speaker 1: So that's just they like stuff that's form fitting. That's

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk about I kind of did

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Speaker 1: the Google auto auto field thing where I was like,

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Speaker 1: Or wire cats blank? And I got a lot of

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Speaker 1: the weirdest how to cats auto fills that you saw? Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a good question I did see. I did see

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Speaker 1: one which was do cats have a penis? Which I

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Speaker 1: thought was kind of interesting. Has proven No, No, they no,

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Speaker 1: they don't. They just don't. All situations, Um, No they do,

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Speaker 1: they do. It's just you can't they are sheathed. Um.

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Speaker 1: And so that I think that was the funniest one

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Speaker 1: where where does it go? Right? Yeah, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I guess that That's a question that I had up

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Speaker 1: until now. So first question I want to answer is

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Speaker 1: why do cats pur? And I think sort of the

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Speaker 1: intuitive answer is because they're happy, they're content and that's

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Speaker 1: it's it's not that that answer is wrong. It's just

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Speaker 1: a lot more complicated than that. They're filled with bumblebees

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Speaker 1: because they are filled to the brim with bees. So

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Speaker 1: both domesticated cats and wildcats per. Although lions, tigers, jaguars,

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Speaker 1: and leopards can't per, they can roar, they can't pur

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Speaker 1: there Apparently the um structure of their learns to allow

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Speaker 1: them to roar is mutually exclusive with their ability to pur,

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Speaker 1: so it's a trade off. Cougars are the largest wildcats

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Speaker 1: that can purn. I've got a got a short audio

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Speaker 1: clip of a cougar purring, which is this is going

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Speaker 1: to be very really excited. Oh isn't that nice? That

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Speaker 1: is really relaxing. That was kind of like how I sounded,

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Speaker 1: um when I was trying to sleep the past couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks with my cold, Just like you're mean, you're happy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: real happy. There's a there's a podcast called just speaking

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Speaker 1: of the relaxation of cats. There's a podcast I believe

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Speaker 1: called the per cast just literally just six minutes of

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Speaker 1: a cat purring. That's by the editor of My Favorite

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Speaker 1: murder Right. Oh no, that's a there's two different perst

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Speaker 1: there's the percast with Stephen Ray Morris's nice Guy. That's

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Speaker 1: where they talk about cats. Then there's the percast how many,

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Speaker 1: you should change the name of this to the perkase.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, just like, let's get as much use out

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Speaker 1: that's great. I would definitely. I do sometimes listen to

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Speaker 1: like cat purring, just like to help me sleep. It's

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Speaker 1: very soathing, which is interesting, and we'll talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about why that might be so soothing. Souh. Typically

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Speaker 1: our cats will pur when they're being petted. They but

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Speaker 1: they can also pur when they're stressed, scared, or in pain.

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Speaker 1: So what's going on. It's kind of confusing. We know

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Speaker 1: that kittens pur to help their mothers locate them for nursing,

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Speaker 1: is like that that interaction between the kittens and the

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Speaker 1: mothers and cats will also purr when they're grooming each other,

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Speaker 1: including big cats in the wild. The ones that can

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Speaker 1: a multi functional communication and self soothing, self healing process.

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Speaker 1: So this is really surprising to me. Actually it may

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Speaker 1: help promote bone and muscle tissue healing. Yes, so the

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Speaker 1: that this frequency is thought to trigger bone and tissue

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Speaker 1: Another way to do that is exercise, if you do

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Speaker 1: That is adorable. Is that what's happening with the cougar? Well,

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Speaker 1: it was actually purring your response to its caretaker. This

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Speaker 1: cats larynx muscles expand and contract the glottis, which is

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Speaker 1: and that causes air to vibrate as it's pushed out

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Speaker 1: You know, that makes sense. Yeah, So the next question

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Speaker 1: like they're not going to like something where it feels

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00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: like they Yeah, they don't want to put in like

426
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 1: a duffle bag. Although my cat growing up, so Mitten's

427
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: love to get in my suitcase every time I was

428
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 1: going off to college, like she would just like get

429
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: in my suitcase and be like, all right, we're ready

430
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: to go. Did you ever surprise everybody taking her to college.

431
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 1: She surprised me by hiding in my car and then

432
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 1: I would drive somewhere and then I'd hear this. We're like, well,

433
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: I gotta take Minton's back home. That means she wanted

434
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: to go to wanted to go to high school with us. Yeah,

435
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: so like an indoor outdoor cat. Yeah, she's in your

436
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: outdoor cats. That makes sense. She killed so many native birds,

437
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: probably very bad. Were gonna talking. We're going to talk

438
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: about that later. Cats killing birds. Oh, it's too depressing,

439
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: but they do. They kill a lot of They kill

440
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: a lot of birds. I think that there's something like

441
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 1: thirty three species of birds that are extinct only because Yeah,

442
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: and like when cats get on like a remote island,

443
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: they can just wipe out a bird population really quickly

444
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: because the birds aren't used to a predator like a cat,

445
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: and then just like pulverize the bird population. And I

446
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: think that that's something that I don't want to say.

447
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,640
Speaker 1: I I don't love that cats commit bird genocide, but

448
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 1: that's a good take. You don't love it, Yeah, I

449
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: don't don't love, don't love genocide, but but I do

450
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: think that there is something kind of adorable about Like

451
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: the cats are so adorable that you kind of forget

452
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: that they're like the perfect chilling machine. It's the cutest

453
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: mass extinction event. So back to boxes. The reason I

454
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: have love boxes is delightful that they boxes provide a

455
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: feeling of security for the cats. So cats are ambush predators,

456
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: not not all cats hashtag not all cats, but are

457
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: domesticated cats are ambush predators, and they are also preyed

458
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: upon by larger animals, um at least like their ancestors were.

459
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: So so the security of being in a little box,

460
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: like being tucked in a little corner. It's great when

461
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: you're an ambush predator because you're hidden, and it's great

462
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: when you're hiding from from predators. So like it's like

463
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 1: their favorite place. They both they feel powerful, they feel secures.

464
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: It's also safe because they can kind of monitor the

465
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: only entrance next exactly they're not going to get they're

466
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: not going to fortress right that they can plot their

467
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: next move. My other kiddie growing up, Binkie loved it

468
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: when I would build him a pillow fort and he'd

469
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: get right in the cute. Do you have pictures of

470
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: this oh, I probably do somewhere in an old full album.

471
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: I don't have one right now, but so you'll have

472
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: to just use your imagination, good imagination station. Imagine a

473
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: very stinky cat. He smelled very bad, hiding in a

474
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: pillow fortress. Okay, if you're listening to this, um, if

475
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: you want to do fan art of what do you

476
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: think a pillow for? It looks like that would make

477
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: me help. I'll help the fan artists out. He was

478
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:50,719
Speaker 1: a gray striped cat with green eyes. He was very

479
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: stinky and dumb. Was the chunky short for he was.

480
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: He was weird, he was lanky. He was kind of

481
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: an awkwardly shaped cat. And there's like an Adam Driver cat. Yeah, no,

482
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: he was is yeah, exactly, very very much. So that's

483
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: a very good description. So researchers have found that providing

484
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: boxes to shelter cats significantly reduces their stress levels and

485
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: it makes them more interested in interacting with each other

486
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 1: and with with humans. Also, cats love to ball up

487
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 1: in small spaces for warmth. So cats, one of the

488
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: reason they like will go in your sink and seem

489
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: to just go in little crannies and like curl up

490
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: into these little little croissants is that they're thermoneutral zone.

491
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: And the thermon neutral zone is the temperature range where

492
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: you don't have to produce extra body heat to make

493
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: up for the heat loss to the environment, So they're through.

494
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: Thermon neutral zone is about eighty six two d degrees fahrenheit.

495
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: In humans, it ranges from about sixty to eighty seven

496
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: degrees fahrenheit. So, in other words, cats would love to

497
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: turn up the thermostat if they could reach it. This

498
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: is where I learned that I'm a cat. Like I

499
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: even during the summer, all like sitting my else in

500
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: my apartment, like wrapped in a blanket. Yeah, yeah, I

501
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: I have a space heater and I once turned it

502
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: on and put my feet up to it and like

503
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: took a nap, and I turned it on so hot

504
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: it melted the varnish on the table that it was on.

505
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: My feet were fine. I don't recommend doing that, but yeah,

506
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: my feet were fine. So, speaking of napping, why do

507
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: cats nap all day? Real real easy answer to this

508
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: one is that, so cats aren't nocturnal. I know it

509
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: seems like they're nocturnal because you know, they're little creatures

510
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: in the night, but they're actually crepuscular, meaning that they're

511
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: most active during dawn and dusk, so any other time

512
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: of the day nap city. So that's why, you know,

513
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: that's why they can sometimes get the kitty jitters in

514
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: the morning that really excited, like four in the morning,

515
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 1: and then like and they get the kitty jitters or

516
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: I like to call it the kitty Jimmy's ut in

517
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: the evening to Okay, how long do you called it

518
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: the kitty Jimmy's for about five seconds? But I call

519
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: everything something like you know, now Jimmy's like like the

520
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy legs is when jim Jimmy legs wiggle around. Yeah,

521
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: but like I just applied to the kitty Jimmy's. Sometimes

522
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: my dog gets like the food Jimmy's where she really

523
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: wants food and she's kind of like pacing around. Yeah,

524
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 1: like you're eating sandwich exactly. Yeah. The chicken Jimmy's is

525
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,239
Speaker 1: a big one because like she really wants chickens, so

526
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: she's getting really to give her chickens a treat. How

527
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: occasionally I try not to give it to her like

528
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: too much though, because not great, but you know, but

529
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: she does. She still gets the chicken Jimmy's so all right,

530
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: next question, but about napping. Something I think is really

531
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: interesting about specifically lions is they sleep around eighteen hours

532
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: a day, um, just so they can be like extremely

533
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: active for six hours per day. They they're sleepy, cute

534
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 1: kitties like most of the time, and then that like

535
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: ten percent of the time they're just like murder machines. Yeah,

536
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 1: it's like the way that I picture it is that

537
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: they sleep. They sleep eighteen hours a day and then

538
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: they open their eyes just ready to murder. Basically, they're

539
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: open their eyes to the terminator point of view. Do

540
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: you want to that's the energy I want to bring

541
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: to sleep as much as I can and then wake

542
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: up and be ready to kill. Yeah. I think that

543
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: that's good. You could do that. You can get the

544
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: killing Jimmy's the murder Jimmy's so perhaps the biggest, the

545
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: most popular question about cats is how do cats mate?

546
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: You horny perverts? So it was at the top of

547
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: the one of the top ones. Yeah, unspayed female cats

548
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: are called queens, which I love. Yeah, yas cat queen.

549
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: Every play cat queens slay all those native bird species.

550
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: Every cats cat queen to me. Un Neutered male cats

551
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: are called tom's or full tom's like is they also

552
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: like the intact tom's because they got their bullsh So

553
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: females go into estros several times a year, so estress

554
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: is when they're fertile ready to make some kitten's. Tom's

555
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: will fight over the right to mate with queens who

556
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: are an astros. And when a female cat allows a

557
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: male to mate with her, she exhibits lordosis behavior, which

558
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: is where when they stick their butts in the air

559
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: like they just don't care. Yeah, And so the male

560
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: will bite the back of her neck, not to hurt her,

561
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: but probably to prevent her from like spinning around and

562
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: attacking him. It's also speculated it may have a soothing quality,

563
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: like when you grab a cat by the nape of

564
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: the right. They have sort of a reflex to relax,

565
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: like with the kittens when the mom grabs them, it

566
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: kind of relaxes them. That's why the vets. Sometimes they

567
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: grab the napo the nap when they give him a shot.

568
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: And so the male's penis is barbed, which is a

569
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a pretty popular fact now.

570
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: But the reason it's barbed is first of all to

571
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: help clear out rival male sperm, and it also induces

572
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: ovulation in the female cats, but through the tactile uh sensation.

573
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: Females yell as males inimating sort of like this loud,

574
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: kind of distressing sounding mew uh. Some speculate it's because

575
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: the penis barbs hurt and suck for the female, although um,

576
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: some research suggests it's actually a defensive yowl to let

577
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: the mail know that she'll attack him if he tries

578
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: any funny business because she's kind of vulnerable. So she's

579
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: like she's like, you know, like Netflix chill, but like

580
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: don't Netflix chill, but like don't steal my food, and

581
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: now like step the heck off. Like. Researchers have actually

582
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: tested these theories and it's insane. Researchers denervated female cats vaginas,

583
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: which yeah, it's when they cut off the nerves, which

584
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: numbs just kind of horrifying. Yeah, come on, guys, like

585
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,959
Speaker 1: a come on, um, And then they found that this

586
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: caused the cats to emit fewer, fewer mating yowls, and

587
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: did not opulate as much in response to the you know,

588
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: mating So yeah, sure, okay, great, now we know that

589
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: that's a weird it's a weird study. Know that that

590
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: was somebody's somebody's PhD thesis was that somebody had to

591
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: write a grant convincing someone else to give them money

592
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, what what's that person's problem? I

593
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I respect science. Sometimes science gets

594
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: a little weird, is all I can say. Yeah, I

595
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: mean I think that that's the thing with like a

596
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: lot of research studies and then like you understand like okay,

597
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: like that's going to get us from point A to

598
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: point B or point C or whatever. But then there

599
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: are some studies where it's like do we need it's necessary?

600
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: Why did you get why did you get a million dollars?

601
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: And like multiple t A s to do? What do

602
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: you want? Why? Well, you know now now we know

603
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: though and knowledge about cat vaginas as powers. What I say, Yeah,

604
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: next question. I feel like the more I feel like

605
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: the more valuable thing to do would be to just

606
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: teach cats to talk and then ask him, oh, yeah,

607
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: I would, I would. I would do it. Grant for

608
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: that for cats to do like a cat vagina monologue.

609
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: That would be really good cat vagina monologue, very fun.

610
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: So next question is why are cats afraid of cucumbers?

611
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: That was a big Google one. Um easy answer to this. Basically,

612
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: they're startled by them because they think it's a snake.

613
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: And if you startle your cat with a cucumber, it's

614
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: pretty mean. So don't do that. Yeah, I am. I

615
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: run a cat Facebook group and whenever anybody posts the

616
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: cat cucumber videos, I'm always like, no, I don't don't

617
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: do that. Cat. Yeah, I think it's a snake. They

618
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: don't like it. It's a mean prank. It's a it's

619
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: kind of one of those it's like one of those

620
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: pranks where like you just scare someone. I think that's

621
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: like those are really mean pranks. I hate it when

622
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: people do that, Like I'm going to hide in a

623
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: garbage can then jump out at you, Like, what's the

624
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: cleverness of that. You're just scaring someone. Yeah, it's like

625
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: if you're prank as a surprised punch somebody in the face,

626
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that's yeah, you're just at this point,

627
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: you're just terrorizing somebody. You're just bowling people and terrorizing them.

628
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: So don't So don't scare your cat with cucumbers please.

629
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,239
Speaker 1: Uh And then to like. The last one I want

630
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: to talk about is cat taste. So cats, like people

631
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: are like, how do cats taste? Which I'm sure means

632
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about that cat. I love cats.

633
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure they mean, like, how do cats experience taste

634
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: the sweetness sourness? But the cats don't taste like humans.

635
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: They don't. They're sweet taste buds don't bind two sugar molecules,

636
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: so they can't taste sweetness. Um, they're actually all about

637
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: the taste of amino acids. They can taste bitterness. I

638
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: don't think they like bitterness, but they can't taste it.

639
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: And they're they're also sensitive to the temperature of their foods,

640
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: so uh, they prefer warm meals over cold meals because

641
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: if you think about it, like a warm meal, it's

642
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: probably more fresh. Cold meal more likely to be going bad.

643
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: So if you have a fussy eater cat who you

644
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: just like, it does not want to eat it's especially

645
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: wet food. If you warm that up into mic a

646
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: wave like that'll that'll do I mean, make sure it's

647
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: not like hot, but you know, warm it up, So

648
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: don't do it in the can. Don't do it in

649
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: the can. I don't think you can microwave a can

650
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: like that, but but yeah, warm it up in a

651
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: little dish and the microwave taste it to make sure

652
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: it's you know, the right time. Yeah, a little bit

653
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: of it, A little bit of it right right exactly? Uh?

654
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: And then would you is that like something that would

655
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: be confusing for you because you would microwave tuna and

656
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: then like, oh yeah, basically you're telling me that when

657
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: I was ten years old, I was a cat, right right? Well,

658
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: would you start kind of salivating if you started microwaving catfood?

659
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: Would it bring back to that? Would start salivating? And

660
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: then I would start just like needing the microwave like

661
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: it was bunting the microwave disturbing. Hey, you eat bones.

662
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: I do love bones. I'll love me some bones. Do

663
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: you eat cold bones? Warm bones? It doesn't any bones,

664
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,919
Speaker 1: any bones. It's not like a temperature thing. I gotta

665
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: gotta I can crunch it open, I'll eat it. You're

666
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: in such a carnival, I know, so crazy, cat ladies.

667
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: Let's dissect this whole thing. I'll start off by acknowledging

668
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: some of the most obvious problem with this trope. The

669
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: sexism and the stigmatization of mental illness. There's the idea

670
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: that a woman who owns multiple cats is making up

671
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: for the fact that they're an old maid, filling the

672
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: man shaped holl in her heart with cats, which is

673
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: on every level dumb had a enormative sexist and catist.

674
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 1: It also assumes that there's some sort of connection between

675
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: anxiety and cat ownership. Well, I'm a nervous rack and

676
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: I own a dog. Explain that people. As it turns out, surprise, surprise,

677
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: there's absolutely no evidence to back up the crazy cat

678
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: lady trope. A U c l A studied surveyed students

679
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: and found no connection between anxiety, depression and whether they

680
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: own cats, dogs, or no pets. So what about the

681
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: gender part? Are women cat magnets never going a week

682
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: without picking up a new cat? A global survey done

683
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: by German market research institute JFK found that of men

684
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: surveyed owned a cat and twenty percent of women surveyed

685
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 1: owned a cat, which is a pretty underwhelming difference. So

686
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: where does the crazy cat lady troupe come from? Then?

687
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: Could it be from the nine six documentary Gray Gardens,

688
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: which features an eccentric wealthy aging woman whose house is

689
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: filled with cats and raccoons? Does it trace back to

690
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: the association between witches and cats or is it a

691
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: covert operation by the dog lobby when yes, definitely. When

692
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: we return, we'll take a look at some of the

693
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: wildest cats that you probably don't want to keep as

694
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: pets unless you're not all that attached to your eyeballs

695
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: and hands. Wildcats are found all over the world, but

696
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: there are only thirty eight species of cats. They vary

697
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: greatly in size, habitat, and behavior, and they all belong

698
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 1: to the clay field day pro Aluis is the old,

699
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: the snown genus of cats. These cats were lanky and

700
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: not much bigger than a house cat. And we're shaped

701
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: more like civets. And if you're wondering what a civet

702
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: is shaped like, well it looks like a sort of

703
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: mongoose cat. And if you're wondering what a mongoose looks like,

704
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: well a banana with legs and fur. Anyways, I can't

705
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: help you further than that, but what I can do

706
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: is recite all thirty eight species of currently living wildcats

707
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: in one breath. Here we go very excited about this

708
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: li lions, tigers, leopards, snow leppers, clouded lepers, jaguars, bay cats, servols, caracules,

709
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: pampas cats. Also lots of bobcats, cheetas, cougars, jagger on

710
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: these fishing cats, sand cats, black footed cats, Jeffrey's cats,

711
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: Andian mountain cats. Okay, there's still more cats very close

712
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: that I was almost there, So I want to talk

713
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: about some of my favorite wildcats and the winners of

714
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: some of our top Cat awards in their category. So

715
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: the smallest cat in the world, this is my one

716
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: of my favorite cats because it's so dark and not

717
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: quite it's sound. Cats are small, black footed cats are small.

718
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: But the smallest cat in the world is the rusty

719
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: spotted cat. So the rusty spotted cat is found indeciduous

720
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: forests in India, Sri Lanka and Nepal. Uh They are

721
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: tan with brown spots and striations, and the adults look

722
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: and sound like a kitten. Let me show you a

723
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: video of these cats. They are extremely cute. Here's this

724
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: little guys at right that is an adult. I think

725
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: it's like it's tinier than a leave. Well that's a

726
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: pretty big leaf, to be fair, but it is tiny,

727
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: so it looks like a little kitten and it is

728
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: an adult cat, and let me okay, actually, I'm going

729
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: to play that meal because I think that is very cute.

730
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: Such a cute meal. So it weighs about two to

731
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: three pounds and its body is just over a foot long.

732
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: They are reportedly very active and playful. They're great climbers.

733
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: They hunt rodents, birds and insects and newborn's. Newborn kittens

734
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: way two ounces or tiny? Is it a foot long

735
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: from the tip of the head tip of the tail? No,

736
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: foot long minus the tail, and then it's a little

737
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: the tails a few inches long. Yeah. Are actually tails

738
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: actually pretty long? It's um, yeah, it's it's disproportionately long

739
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: to its body. But yeah, so with tail it's forty

740
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: ft long with its tail, No, it's probably like an

741
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: extra like half foot or something. Um. I feel like,

742
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: do you get this with cats where it's like, if

743
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: you hear a cute cat me out, Like, it feels

744
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: like your body just uncontrollably goes like, oh I become

745
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: I become a seven year old. Yeah. Well, I think

746
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: it's interesting because cat mews and mews are kind of

747
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: similar to baby baby prize. So I think they have

748
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: tapped into one of our own sort of instinctive responses

749
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: to want to protect babies. And that's why cats are

750
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: so miawi at us because they can get us to

751
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: do what they want us to do. It's an evolutionary

752
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: development where it's like the reason that we love cats

753
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: is essentially that they make us think that their baby

754
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: right exactly, like, I'm fine with it. I'm fine, I'm

755
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: okay with it. So now onto the largest cat. So,

756
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: the largest cat you can possibly get is actually, uh,

757
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: something that humans kind of help out with making. And

758
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: uh it is an adult male liger, which is a

759
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: hybrid between a lion and a tigress. And the largest

760
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: one of these is named Hercules, and he weighs over

761
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: nine hundred pounds and is ten ft tall when standing

762
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: on his hind legs. He's a big boy. Um. I

763
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: wish that, just like an alt pitch, I wish that

764
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: the smallest cat in the world was named Hercules and

765
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: the biggest cat member was named Tiny. That would be ironic,

766
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: very cute. But that sounds like a chalky cat. Yeah,

767
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: So why do likes get so big? Yeah, so a

768
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: liker is bigger than a lion or a tiger exactly.

769
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: He is a big The biggest cat you can basically

770
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: create is a liger. You put like a saddle on

771
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: one and ride it like a horse. You could briefly

772
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: before you get killed, but like the brief moment, it

773
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: would be a pretty good way to go as long

774
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: as they got like a good Instagram photo of it,

775
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: and the cat was like not too mad. So the

776
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: reason ligers get so big is actually very interesting. It

777
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: has to do with the competition between male and female genes.

778
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: So sometimes male and female genes of a species will

779
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: be at odds, so lionesses may mate with multiple males.

780
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: There's often a dominant male and a pride, and that

781
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: dominant male can get changed out by competition. A new

782
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: male can come in and mate. Sometimes more than one

783
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: male and a pride can mate at once, and male

784
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: jeens favor offspring who grow bigger faster so that they

785
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: can dominate resources from other offspring that may not share

786
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: their genes. Females, however, want all of their offspring to

787
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: succeed for obvious reasons, because they're related to all of

788
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: their offspring, and so they don't want one of their

789
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 1: kittens to grow really big, really fast and out compete

790
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 1: all her other kittens, so their genes actually counteract the

791
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: male growth genes so that she can spread out her

792
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: resources more evenly amongst her offspring. So that's sort of

793
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 1: a arms race with the genes of the female cats

794
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: and the male cats. Tigers actually don't have to compete

795
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: in this way because tigers were made monogamous during each

796
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: breeding season. They do have multiple partners over their lifespan,

797
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: but they remain monogamous over a period of time. So

798
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 1: that means that the male tigers don't really need their

799
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: offspring to grow competitively because they will be related to

800
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: all of them per per batch and per per mating season,

801
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: and so females don't need any defensive genes to stop

802
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: these fat babies from happening. So when a male lion

803
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: mates with a female tiger, creating a liger, the male

804
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: turbo growth genes aren't met with any defensive genes from

805
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: the female, so it just grows as big as it

806
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: wants to, and that's how you get that big old

807
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: hercules cat. Isn't there a deal? I could be completely

808
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: wrong here, but like ligers can't mate with each other,

809
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: that's correct, sterile, that's right. So so it's the same

810
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: thing with mules across between donkeys and horses, and in fact,

811
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: most of these hybrid species are sterile because of the

812
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: way that So the way that the genes work is

813
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: that you know, you'll have with with this within the

814
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: same species, you'll have the same number of genes and

815
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: they'll match up basically evenly, you know, one to one

816
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: amino acid to amino acid, whereas like when you have

817
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: two different species, they may have different numbers of of

818
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 1: of sex genes, so like when they're matching them up,

819
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: there will be a mismatch. Which so because the chromosomes

820
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 1: of their parents of a of a hybrid animal like

821
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: a Liger's uh, don't really match up, they can't produce

822
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: sex cells and like sperm or eggs, so they can exist,

823
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: they can be you can have that mismatch and create

824
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: a baby, but that baby then can't make sex cells.

825
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: And this is because there's a difference between mitosis, which

826
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: is the process of a developing fetus, and myosis, which

827
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: is the formation of sex cells. So in mitosis, you

828
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: get one set of chromosomes from your parents sex cells

829
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: and they're duplicated and split up, so you have two

830
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: new cell copies that are exactly the same. But in myosis,

831
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: you're creating sex cells by jumbling up your d n

832
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: A into non exact copies. So when in my mitosis,

833
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: if you have two sets of chromosomes that aren't from

834
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 1: the same species and they don't exactly match up, it's

835
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: not necessarily a death sentence, like you can still you know,

836
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: they're basically duplicated exactly as you're growing as a fetus.

837
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: But when you make sex cells in myosis, you're you

838
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: have to recombine it because if we're not a clonal species,

839
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: you don't have a baby that is your clones. So

840
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: but in that recombination, if you don't have the same

841
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: number of chromosomes from your parents, it gets all messed up,

842
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: and so you get this mismatch. It's like trying to

843
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: zip a sweater like halfway up. It doesn't work. I

844
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 1: guess in that case, it would be like zipping a

845
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: sweater to another sweater exactly. Yeah, that's right, a different

846
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: length sweat. It's like if you say yeah, yeah, like

847
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, I guess that those are stuck together.

848
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: I guess made a new article of but like, I

849
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: mean you can, yeah, it's not an effective sweat, right right,

850
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: and then you like and then you chop up those

851
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: sweaters and trying to mix them up and stitch them

852
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: together and just does not work. Yeah, and it's like,

853
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: well you congrats, you ruined two sweaters. Alright. So the

854
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: award for the most flat headed cat is drum roll,

855
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 1: the flat headed Cat. Yes, that's the name of the cat.

856
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: It's a small wildcat found in Borneo, Sumatra, the time

857
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: Lay Peninsula in wet lands, and it is endangered. The

858
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: wild population is only a couple of thousand, which is

859
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: very sad because I love this doofy little cat. I

860
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: gotta show you a picture of them. Yeah, just google it.

861
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: It's the that's the cutest cat ever. It's got got

862
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: a head you can serve drinks on. It's got a flathead. Look.

863
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: Scientists spend less time and less grant money trying to

864
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: figure out how cat vagina is working more money getting

865
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: me more flatheaded chat. So they're rust colored with a

866
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: white underbelly. It's a couple of feet long with a

867
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: five inch tail and weighs three to five pounds. So

868
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 1: they're they're a pretty small cat. Um. They're a bit

869
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: smaller than a domesticated cat who weighs from seven to

870
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: nine pounds. It's called a flat headed cat on account

871
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 1: of its big old flathead. It's adapted to a wet

872
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 1: land environment, so it's skull shape and jaw shape is

873
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: ideal for catching fish. Its teeth are hooked like little

874
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: fish hooks, and its eyes are forward facing and close together,

875
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: giving it good depth perception. It has prominent foot webbing

876
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: that allows it to navigate muddy and aquatic environments. And

877
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: it's just a real doofy looking kiddy that deserves our

878
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: love and protection. It's got big guys, so it always

879
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: looks surprised. I always look surprised Scott, like, like, are

880
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: you guys talking about Scott? Do you feel little duck

881
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: feet in a flat head? What's not to love? Next cat?

882
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: Canada's Links the biggest leg warmers of all cats. I

883
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: guess I kind of gave that one away, but yeah,

884
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: the winner of the biggest leg warmers is the Canada Links.

885
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: So it looks very cute. Yes, so. Native to Canada

886
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: and Alaska and sometimes found in the Rocky Mountains in

887
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: the US, it lives in boreal forests, which are often

888
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: quite cold with a lot of snow. It's just a

889
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: bit bigger than a bobcat and it's way flu fier,

890
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: So it's adapted really well for cold environments with a

891
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: real thick fur coat, and it has these huge chunky

892
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: paws and that act as insulated snowshoes on the snow. Um.

893
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: It reminds me of um if you remember like teenage

894
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: Mutant Ninja Turtles action figures, how there would be like

895
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: Arctic action like Donna Tello and stuff like this. This

896
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: just feels like an Arctic action cat where it's like

897
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: it looks shoved those big old military ug boots. Yeah,

898
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: here's a here's one with like the biggest pas I've

899
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,479
Speaker 1: ever seen on the ca It's just these big old

900
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: like muppety paws. Yeah, and it's like they look they're

901
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: probably deadly, but like also like you just want a snuggle.

902
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: You just want to snowgle that kittie. It'll scratch your

903
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: face off, but you want to suggle. My last words

904
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: will be worth it. Uh, my last words will be huyo.

905
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: Speaking of muppets, the most muppetist cat is the Palace's cat.

906
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: So here's a picture of this guy. Oh that that

907
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: cat looks like it should be voiced by the guy

908
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: that voiced Yoda. Yeah, it looks like it should be

909
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: in a Star War Like. It looks like a Star

910
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: Wars cat. Like, it looks like a Wookie, looks like

911
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: a Wookie. No, it looks like a a Wookie and

912
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: a Yoda had a baby. That's the I feel like

913
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: that's that's the real baby Yoda that I want the

914
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: baby a Woda. I've got some fan fictions. I mean,

915
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: I guarantee that there's a there's Yoda Chewbacca slash fiction

916
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: out there, like whatever, Like it's gotta be and Yoda

917
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: is going to be ripped under those those Jedi robes.

918
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, there's gonna be a moment where

919
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: like Chewbacca is going to touch Yoda's robe and then

920
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: feel his muscles and be like oh um. So. The

921
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: Palace's Cat is found in Central Asia in montane grasslands

922
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: at high elevations up to sixteen thousand feet. Uh. It's

923
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: about the size of a pet cat. It has real

924
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: fluffy fur that is grayish brown. It's legs are proportionally

925
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: shorter than most cats, which gives it a do fear

926
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: looking here, it's got tiny ears and round pupils, unlike

927
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: the slitted pupils, which makes it look pretty cute and silly.

928
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: They feed on gerbils, voles and young marmots. So if

929
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: you're wondering why the round pupils, some cats have round

930
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: pupils like big cats like lions and tigers, and smaller

931
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: cats tend to have slitted pupils and it's so it's

932
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: unusual for this Palace's cat to have the round pupils

933
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: because usually the smaller ones have the icelets. So researchers

934
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: have found that ambush predator cats tend to have slitted pupils. Uh,

935
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: So that makes sense for the smaller cats that rely

936
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: on ambush it makes sense because I'm sure like most

937
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: of their hunting is like and crepuscular. Right. They need

938
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: to be able to see during the day so they

939
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: can't be blinded by the light, but they need to

940
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: be able to have these big pupils so they can

941
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: lit light in during the nights. That slitted pupil really

942
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: works well for them. Whereas for big cats, they're active

943
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: foragers and they do ambush to some extent, but they

944
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: also chase down prey are long distances and they so

945
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: like having the big ground pupil is pretty important. I

946
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: feel like the reason this cat has big ground pupils

947
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: is marketability. Marketability, just like like it's so people are like,

948
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: this should be a stuffed animal. I will see this cat,

949
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: I will feed this cat everything. Well, yeah, I can't

950
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 1: really find a definitive answer, but I do have a guess,

951
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: which is that it may have something to do with

952
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,280
Speaker 1: its high altitude montane environment. Um. So they do stock

953
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: in ambush prey, we do know that, but I wonder

954
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: if the harshness of the high altitudes means they have

955
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: to chase prey over greater distances and they have to

956
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,799
Speaker 1: be able to spot them against this kind of rocky

957
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: environment and be able to give greater chase. Um. And

958
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe it's just a guess. It could

959
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: be also could be the quality of the light in

960
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: these montane regions. Maybe like the the days are are

961
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: shorter and it's it's uh, but yeah, I'm not really

962
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 1: not really sure. I'd really love to hear from some

963
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: I experts on the this one, on their theory of

964
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: why does the Palaces cat? First of all, why does

965
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: the Palace's cat look like? And also why has it

966
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: got them around? Pupils um. If you're a scientist, if

967
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: you're listening to this, please tweet at us till us now. Also,

968
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: if you're an artist and you'll listen to this, please

969
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: uh do a drawing of Yoda romancing chew paca and

970
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: sent it and having a baby Palaces cat? Yes, please

971
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: please send us that. Please got some homework for a

972
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: fan artist? Can you really tame a wildcat? As we've

973
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: discussed earlier, our house cats aren't much different from their

974
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: wild ancestors, as their claw marks and bloodthirsty antics may demonstrate.

975
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: So can you tame a lion and keep it as

976
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: a big old house cat? Well? No, you can certainly

977
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: train a lion and other big cats to tolerate or

978
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: even enjoy your presence. You may make friends with them

979
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: just as easily as you make friends with mittens, your

980
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: little tabby cat. But the difference between mittens and a

981
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: line is just their share ability to kill you. In

982
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: is piste off at you, she could give you a

983
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: nasty slash on the hand, whereas a lion with a

984
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 1: bite force of six fifty p s I with teeth

985
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: the size of plantains could just destroy you. If Mittens

986
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: was lion sized, she may on a whim eviscerate you.

987
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: And this podcaster's opinion, wildcats make bad pets for those

988
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: of us who enjoy being intact, and more importantly, most

989
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: humans aren't equipped to give wildcats a good quality of life. Unfortunately,

990
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: that doesn't stop people from trying. They're over ten thousand

991
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 1: wildcats being kept as pets or kept in captivity outside

992
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: of zoos. In the US. There's no federal law regulating

993
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: wildcat ownership, so in many states it's legal. Many of

994
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: these cats are abandoned once their hold. Huge wild animal

995
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,399
Speaker 1: antics get too much for their owners to handle, and

996
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: they can end up in crowded sanctuaries. In other words,

997
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,760
Speaker 1: if you want the experience of owning a tiger house,

998
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: cat is just as likely to go around murdering prey

999
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: and trying them all you, but in a much smaller,

1000
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: more ethical package. This leads me to my next theory.

1001
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: The recent movie Cats is our attempt to finally dominate

1002
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 1: and humiliate cats by turning them into shambling, humanoid abominations.

1003
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: When we return we'll discuss this movie and try to

1004
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: answer the profound question the Cats Movie provokes why anthropomorphism

1005
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: didn't start with Disney or furries. Throughout human history, we've

1006
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: been fascinated by giving humans animalistic traits or vice versa.

1007
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: The Low and Men's figuring found in Germany is a

1008
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: thirty two thousand year old ivory sculpture that is shaped

1009
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: like a human with a lioness's head. Bastet and sec

1010
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: Met were ancient Egyptian goddesses with women's bodies and the

1011
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: heads of a cat and a lioness. So carrying on

1012
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 1: this ancient tradition is the feature length movie Cats, which

1013
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: I watched in its entirety completely sober. And I'm not

1014
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: exactly sure or where we went wrong, whether it was

1015
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,240
Speaker 1: thirty two thousand years ago with the Low and Mensch figuring,

1016
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: or maybe further back in our cultural history, but the

1017
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: Cats movie is perhaps the last piece of art that

1018
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 1: humans should ever be allowed to make ever again. I

1019
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: think it's the last piece of art that we need

1020
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: to We've done it. Yeah, I so the Cats movie,

1021
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: whatever you say about it, I think it cements itself

1022
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: as art just because it's a lightning rod in the

1023
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 1: cultural zeit guys like it is. It's a thing that's

1024
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: something that I oftentimes think about. This is just like

1025
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, comedian comedy writer guy who makes stuff whatever.

1026
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: Is like the purpose of entertainment is to give people

1027
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: basically shared experiences to bring them closer together, right right.

1028
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 1: They never said that experience had to be a good one. Yeah,

1029
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: but they never said it had to be a good experience.

1030
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 1: But I don't think that the Cats movie was a

1031
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: bad experience. Like for me, I've seen it twice. The

1032
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: first time that the first time I saw it like

1033
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: one a m on like a Sunday opening weekend, and

1034
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,359
Speaker 1: I saw it with like two people that are in

1035
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: the Cat Facebook group that I run, and like there

1036
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: were maybe ten of the people in the theater, and

1037
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: within five minutes, everybody in the theater was just openly

1038
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: shouting the screen. And it's like afterwards, like every person

1039
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: in the theater like we all just like gave each

1040
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: other high five and it was like, oh, like this

1041
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: brought even just the random people in this theater together

1042
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: for it, and I um on New Year's Day, I

1043
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: really wanted to see Cats with a crowded theater of

1044
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: people that we're going to get it. So I basically

1045
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 1: found a screening of Cats in Burbank that had zero

1046
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: tickets sold, and I just posted my cat Facebook group

1047
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: and on Twitter. I know I was invited. I couldn't come,

1048
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: unfortunately I was across the country, but I really wanted

1049
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah. I was basically like, let's sell at

1050
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: this theater and have just like a really rowdy Cats screening.

1051
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: And we sold it out within four hours, about forty

1052
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: eight pairs of catiers that I gave to everybody that

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00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: came in in the theater. That's excellent, and um, it

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00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: was just like probably the most fun I've ever had

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00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: watching a movie. Was like just screaming at the screen

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00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 1: with all these people singing along the magical Mr Mustaphiles

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00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: with strangers. That sounds lovely. Yeah, my cat's experience was

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00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: a bit different. Um. I was extremely sick, so I

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00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: couldn't make it out to the theater. I got a

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: bluntline Crompy of Cats and cat Burg co cat burgled

1061
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: the copy. Um, and I watched it with my boyfriend,

1062
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: high on cough medicine, and we just kind of in

1063
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: stony silence watched this thing. Sometimes looking at each other

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00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: in a gas horror as I you know, sipped on

1065
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: my tess in. But right, right, right, it was no, No,

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00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 1: it was funny. I mean we were we were talking

1067
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: the whole time about it because it was just unbelievable.

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00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable how this got made. Yeah, it's like

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00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: it's something that I've talked about to a lot of

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00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: friends in that it's i mean, like the Broadway production

1071
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: doesn't really make a ton of sense storyline wise. It's

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00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: basically just cats introducing. It's the spectacle. It's the spectacle.

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00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: It's a cat going like I'm Mr Fibbley Banks and

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00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm the banker cat, you know or whatever, very good

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00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: cat character. Mr Fippley Banks, the banker cat. I'm pippoty

1076
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: PLoP the podcast cat. Um, I'm Kibledie Katie. This the

1077
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: cat who's got a cold, right right? Um, Yeah, It's

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00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: basically what we've done is essentially the Cats movie, right. Um,

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00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: it's that for several hours. Um, and like they stitched

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00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: together like kind of an like a little bit of

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00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: a narrative of um, Like there's the cats that want

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00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: to belong. There's a cat that like wants to learn

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00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: how to do magic and blah blah blah blah, and

1084
00:59:55,160 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: like it's, uh, it's kind of nonsensical inter terms of plot,

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01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: but the spectacle of it is it's as um, it's

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01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: as entertaining as it is insane, and it is very insane, yes,

1087
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: so to kind of I think the most powerful kind

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01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: of representation of what this Cats movie is is looking

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01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,479
Speaker 1: at reviewers who have had to write up a full

1090
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: review of Cats, and um, there's this great Esquire article

1091
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: called pinpointing the exact moment Cats reviewers lost their minds Um,

1092
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: So here are some of my favorite quotes from these reviewers.

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01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: So this one is from Casper Salmon, which I'm sorry

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01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: actually sounds like a name from Cats. Like it's a

1095
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: great name. Not making fun of the name, it's an

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01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: excellent name, but so writes for a Prospect quote, Why

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01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: do some of the cats wear shoes? Why are they

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01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: sometimes as big as a human and sometimes as big

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01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: as a shopping bag? Why do some walk in some crawl?

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: Why do they have no X but no anuses? And

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01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: that's a that's a very good questions. Why do they

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01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: have why do they have butt cheeks but no anuses? Yeah,

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01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: that's a that's a big That's my thing is like,

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01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: you know, like if they had gone either give them

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 1: all suspenders, like they give one of the cats that's

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01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: very form fitting suspenders, leaving nothing to the imagination the

1107
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: railway cat, or or just give them buttles. Have the

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01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: courage to give them butts. Yeah, I guess that. It

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01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: just it feels like my friend Haley Mancini, the way

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01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: that she described it is, it's like the way that

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01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 1: the cats look isn't in the uncanny It's so deep

1112
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: in the uncanny valley that it's Uncanny Canyon, and it's

1113
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: like it is just like it's it's insane, like there

1114
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: are cats the Uncanny Mariana Trench, Yes, exactly. Like their

1115
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: cats will have full conversations on two legs, sing songs

1116
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: on two legs, and then they'll like drop to all

1117
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 1: fours and crows at the scene. Here's a review from

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01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: Alison Wilmore of the Vulture quote. Are the coats that

1119
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 1: some of the cats, like Macavity, Idris Elba and Old

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01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: Deuteronomy Dinch where actually made from the skin of other cats?

1121
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: And if so, does this mean that Jinny any Dots

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01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: who at one point unzips herself out of a full

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: body first is the kind of twice Buffalo Bill in

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01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: Silence of the Lambs tipself multiple form fitting skin. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I really think that I was kind of really frustrated

1126
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: at the movie of how like kind of rude the

1127
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: movie was to Rubble Wilson. I thought it was pretty

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: disrespectful of her, the way they made her kind of

1129
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: fall around and stumble over herself all the time. But yeah,

1130
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: the unzipping, she's she's in a skin tight you know,

1131
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: like c g I fur, then she unzips that for

1132
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: and then is wearing like a show girl dress under that,

1133
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: but then there's more for under that. It's sort of

1134
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: like an It's a Loony Tunes move, right, It's like

1135
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: any Tunes move but it doesn't work on human people

1136
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: in a c g I thing. Well, the Jenny any

1137
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: Dot scene, there's a moment in the scene where Jenny

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01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: any Dots reveals that she's enslaved mice to sing and dance,

1139
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 1: and the mice have the faces of human children. They

1140
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: are played by human child actor there. She reveals later

1141
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: in that scene that she has an entire polluted platoon

1142
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: of cockroaches. Also humanoid. Every This is what's so crazy

1143
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: about this Sortically, while they're screaming and dancing and doing

1144
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: a show tunes thing, but this is what's crazy about

1145
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: this universe. Every living creature is humanoid, Like like an

1146
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 1: earthworm is going to be a gooey long human, which

1147
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 1: sounds like like birds are going to be humans. Uh,

1148
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: Like a turtle is just gonna be like a turtle

1149
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: head pokes out, it's a human face. There's also just

1150
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: weird logic stuff of like mcavity is the He's essentially

1151
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: the cat devil um. There are wanted posters on the

1152
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: side of buildings from a cavity, which opens the question

1153
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: of like are their jellical police? Like why like our cats? What?

1154
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: Like what what used to cats have for money? Like

1155
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. They're also like like the cavity search

1156
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: the police cat. Yeah, it's like that, and then it's

1157
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 1: like who funds the police cats? It's like it's the

1158
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 1: It's the sort of movie where it's like a it's

1159
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 1: like Cathulu where it's like the more that you look

1160
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: at it, the more in Jin Yamamoto of The l

1161
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: A Times tweets quote me watching cats movie, why human

1162
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,480
Speaker 1: faces and human hands? Why so small? What is Judy

1163
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: denches for coat made of? How do they poop? How

1164
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: did I get here? Why so boring? Who is responsible

1165
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: for this? What hath cat Maddie do rot? There are

1166
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: also moments in it where, like Judy Dench and Ian

1167
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: McClellan is in it as old Gusts, they like give it,

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01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: They're all. That's the thing is everybody in this movie.

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01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: Really it works so hard in this movie, which is

1170
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: what maybe that's part of why it's so embarrassing too,

1171
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: Like Ian McClellan went goes full method where he like

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01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: will interrupt scenes to nuzzle on things. Um, Like, there's

1173
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: definitely a shot where like, I think he did nail

1174
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 1: the cat nous the bass, like he did get the

1175
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 1: cat attitude. Maybe that's what, like fifty years of Shakespearean

1176
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: acting gets you the ability to act like a cat.

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01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: Like if you want to see Ian mcclawn like lap

1178
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: milk out of a saucer, then oh boy, this is

1179
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 1: the movie for you. And like Judy Dench, she like

1180
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: she also like does she does a really good job

1181
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: as Old Deuteronomy, But there are moments where she'll like

1182
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 1: she'll be like talking in a scene and she'll lift

1183
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: her leg overhead casually. Uh. They also like they patched

1184
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: the movie where there's the first version of the movie

1185
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 1: that was released because the movie was the director finished

1186
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: editing the movie the morning it came out into theaters,

1187
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: and um, but they like messed up a lot of

1188
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: visual effects where like there you can see multiplied James

1189
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: Dame Judy Dench's human hand ring. Yeah, there's a point where, um,

1190
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: like what's his name hosts a late night show, James

1191
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: James Gordon where he jumps through jumps through a cat

1192
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: door and just disappears. Um, I haven't seen this, but

1193
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: I've heard that there was a moment where you can

1194
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: see an actor just like completely without c g in

1195
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 1: their mo cap suit in the background. I didn't notice that, Yeah,

1196
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: but I was I was on a medicine. There's just

1197
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: like so much stuff in this movie that's like it's

1198
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,440
Speaker 1: like everybody but like everybody gives it. They're all and

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01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: like all like all the stuff that I'm describing, Like

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01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: it's if you like Lucky Rocky Horror Picture Show, if

1201
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: you liked The Room, if you like just like crazy

1202
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: midnight screenings of movies, then like you will love Cats

1203
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: because there's so much insanity to it. It is kind

1204
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 1: of escapism because it's so bizarre. It kind of made

1205
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: me forget myself for a while, but so lost in

1206
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: how bizarre it was. Yeah, and like and like the

1207
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: songs are great, like everybody's everybody's musical performances are so good.

1208
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: Like there are things like the skimble Shanks, the dancing

1209
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: the Railway Cat Dance number where it's like clear that

1210
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: guy's a world class cat happen dances the hell out

1211
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: of that dance. Yeah, and it's tight. I cannot get

1212
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: over how tight those overalls are. Sorry, this brings me

1213
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 1: to this other review that Nigel Andrews of Financial Times

1214
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: rights worryingly erotic. Yeah, that's the other thing is like

1215
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 1: these cats, Frank, I mean it is they There's a

1216
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: scene where Dame Judy Dinch is like the head of Cats,

1217
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: is in with with all her cats in the theater

1218
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: and they're just it's like they're rubbing up against each

1219
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: other and flipping around and thrusting theater. And whenever cats

1220
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 1: would get close to nuzzling each other, everybody in the

1221
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: theater would chant nuzzle, And it happened a lot. My

1222
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: response was much different. It was going like no, God, please.

1223
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,919
Speaker 1: There's also a point where Jason Trullo makes a makes

1224
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: a joke about eating Rebel Wilson's but uh and then what, Yeah,

1225
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: it's like right when he comes in, Uh he was,

1226
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 1: he was a rum tum tugger. I think, Um, it's

1227
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: the end of Rebel Wilson's thing, right before it gets

1228
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:18,120
Speaker 1: into his like funk number, he jokes about eater. But yeah,

1229
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: I think he says it's something about like I'm excited

1230
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: you're behind or whatever, and then he that and the

1231
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 1: ends the song about like almost sucking on like Victoria

1232
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:35,679
Speaker 1: Veronica or whatever. That was weird. That was super weird. Yeah,

1233
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,719
Speaker 1: it's just like this is the movie is and everybody,

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01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: I hope I pronounced this name right. Devin Cogan wrote

1235
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: an article for Entertainment Weekly titled I took my dad,

1236
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: a veterinarian to see Cats. He has some thoughts, Oh,

1237
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 1: I read this article. I highly recommend this article, but

1238
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,799
Speaker 1: I just I love it. Uh. And so she asks

1239
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: her dad, like, what's the most bizarre aspect of the movie,

1240
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: and and her dad, the veterinarian, says that the faces

1241
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: are the worst, and I agree cat faces. He says

1242
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: cat faces can be expressive, but they're extremely subtle. Um,

1243
01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: seeing all these cats make all these exaggerated faces was

1244
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,760
Speaker 1: kind of horrifying. Yeah, well, I think that like what

1245
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: they think that they needed to make a choice between

1246
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: are these like like in the Broadway play where it's

1247
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: essentially people wearing leotard's or these just straight up cg cats.

1248
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: And it's like, because it's this weird human cat hybrid

1249
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: that looks like an an island of Dr Moreau there,

1250
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: like it just gets into this area when whenever you

1251
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: see a cat, you're not like, oh, you're like it's

1252
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: like a visceral respect. And the thing is like with

1253
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: the the long with the long tails too, like humans

1254
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 1: with long tails doesn't read to me as cats. It's

1255
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: almost like the in the way they walked it almost

1256
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: like also like clear like gluteal must right. Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: it kind of almost like gave me like huge lemur

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Speaker 1: kind of thing, Like they looked like like huge lemurs,

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Speaker 1: which is unsettling. There is a moment where there's a

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Speaker 1: coordinated tail dance. Oh that's right, and they're all their

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Speaker 1: tails twitch in unison. Yeah, that made me that that.

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Speaker 1: I think that was the moment I lost my mind

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Speaker 1: because that was just like it made me want to

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Speaker 1: like un watch that part. I lost my mind literally

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Speaker 1: Frame one, when there's a cat face in the moon.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, my god, And I just knows, like dissonant music,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's a ride. It's a real ride, like

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Speaker 1: like honestly, like see the movie, right, there's this scene

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Speaker 1: or Taylor Swift gets all these cats high with with catnip.

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Speaker 1: She's got a she's got a bedazzled canister of cat

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Speaker 1: up that she pours on it, and the nip has

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Speaker 1: catnip written on it in bedazzle, and she rides into

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Speaker 1: this scene on the DreamWorks logo, I do want to

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Speaker 1: talk about cat nip. So the cat nip is a

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Speaker 1: member of the mint family, and cat nip affects adult

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Speaker 1: cats and not kittens um. And the reason is that

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Speaker 1: it is actually acting as an artificial cat pheromone. So

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Speaker 1: the the nepotalactone oil and cat nip acts as like

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Speaker 1: an as basically an artificial cat pheromone. And so when

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Speaker 1: cats are super strung out on on catnip, they're also

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Speaker 1: kind of horny. So that's like one of the accurate

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Speaker 1: things in the movie is like when she like, you know,

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Speaker 1: gets them all high on cat nip and they're all,

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Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair, they are perpetually horny the movie.

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Speaker 1: It's not that big of a difference play cat nip.

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Speaker 1: They still want to post catnip. They just look drug. Yes, yes, exactly,

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, would you do anything to fix

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Speaker 1: this musical or do you think it's perfect the way

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Speaker 1: it is? One moment woman, before I get to do

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Speaker 1: it Talking about that, there's a moment at the end

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Speaker 1: of the movie where Judy Dench looks at the camera

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Speaker 1: and addresses you. She breaks the fourth that's fourth ball,

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Speaker 1: well for three minutes to tell you what you should

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Speaker 1: have learned from the movie. Item one being that cats

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Speaker 1: are not dogs. That's like, that is like the the

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Speaker 1: ultimate lesson, Like that that's the profound thing, Like that's

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Speaker 1: what I was supposed to learn importantly at all. It's

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Speaker 1: not a dog theater that I was in screens along

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Speaker 1: with her, and you're like, I mean, like, but the

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Speaker 1: thing is that the movie is so insane leading up

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Speaker 1: to that that when she says that, you're like, are

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Speaker 1: they I don't know? Cats dogs? Ups is down. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what. Taylor Swift has a disturbing scene

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Speaker 1: where she walks around in high heels and as a cat.

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Speaker 1: Also there's like breakdancing cats wearing tims like it's just like, um,

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Speaker 1: I mean personally, I'm gonna say this is a perfect movie.

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Speaker 1: I would I would perfect movie. I would change nothing

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Speaker 1: about it. This was the most fun that I've ever

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Speaker 1: had watching a movie. I'd give them all by far,

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Speaker 1: I'd give them all bee holes, like this was better

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Speaker 1: than Star Wars. I want to see I would want

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Speaker 1: to see a cat in the Cats movie, like a

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Speaker 1: cough up a hair ball. That would a cat does?

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Speaker 1: I believe Bustofer Jones does on the barge scene at

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Speaker 1: the end, So like, look they thought everything they did

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Speaker 1: they did it would have been really fun to watch

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Speaker 1: and use the letter box would have been fun to

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Speaker 1: see that. That's something we all want to use that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like all these are ideas that they can

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Speaker 1: include in A Cat's to write Cats to Cats to

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Speaker 1: the squeakol But it's like Cats. The thing is is

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Speaker 1: the format of the movie is so easily refillable because

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Speaker 1: it's just the next jellical ball, which the Gelco ball.

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Speaker 1: They're all jelical cats. I've never really explained what a

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Speaker 1: gelical cat is. Still, don't cat Um is a cat

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Speaker 1: who does not have a bee holes. It doesn't never

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Speaker 1: the whole. Yeah, it doesn't have nips. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people have said that they should have cat noses, that

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Speaker 1: the worst part is that their noses are human noses.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the worst part is everything about

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Speaker 1: their bodies, like the toes, the fingers, human fingernails. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like even like, I'm I'm upset that the director

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Speaker 1: made those changes to graphical errors to me that that

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Speaker 1: is my han shot first, that is my George Lucas

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Speaker 1: treating tweeting the trilogy. What a lot? Just hum, just

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Speaker 1: give them human feet and hands like no fur on.

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, I mean, I think make it more horrifying.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the holes that we see a lot,

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Speaker 1: I think lean into the horror of it. Yeah. Absolutely, Well,

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Speaker 1: this has been a real trip. I gotta say. I

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Speaker 1: think as soon as I saw the trailer for The

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Speaker 1: Cat's Musical, I knew I had to have you on

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Speaker 1: and I knew I'd have to do this episode. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this was set up months ago. Um, yeah, thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me. This was super fun. Yeah for sure. Um,

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Speaker 1: you got anything anything to plug? Anything to plug? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Follow me on Twitter at Joey Tainman. Follow me on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Joey Clift with like five eyes. The reason

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Speaker 1: it's five eyes is that like a twelve year old

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Speaker 1: took regular Joey Clift and now I just got the

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Speaker 1: stle with the one I got. And um, other than that,

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Speaker 1: let's see, I got a short film that um was

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Speaker 1: posted online recently. You can find it on my Twitter account.

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Speaker 1: It's called telling people your Native American when you're not

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Speaker 1: native is telling it? Bear? Your bear, not a bear.

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Speaker 1: The name is twenty four words long. Uh not. Other

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Speaker 1: than that, I don't know. Yeah, follow me on the

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Speaker 1: socials and uh, I don't know. Just like see the

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Speaker 1: Cats movie. I'm here to promote the Cats have nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with it, but I think you should watch it.

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Speaker 1: You can find the podcast online Creature Feature Pod on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: Creature feet Pot on Twitter. That's f E a T,

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Speaker 1: not f E teeth. That will be something very different.

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Speaker 1: I am Katie Golden. You can find me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at Katie Golden and also at pro bird writes where

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Speaker 1: I'm actually, you know, I kind of want to make

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Speaker 1: a bird's musical properd rds. I gotta say, it's such

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Speaker 1: a funny twitter I think. So I'm gonna do birds

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Speaker 1: musical and have like Mr cheap cheap mcbeet beeps. Yeah

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Speaker 1: that's a good name, and uh you know old goosey

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Speaker 1: quacker bottoms bottoms yeah, like like like skimble feathers, the

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Speaker 1: airplane chat or airpane plane birds, chicken e cheep cheep

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Speaker 1: the beat beat cheap cheap all this makes more sense

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Speaker 1: than The Cat's Movie. Thanks to the Space Cossacks for

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Speaker 1: their magnificent song. Ex Alumina Creature features a production of

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Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows. See you next Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, m oh