1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 3: Yes, it's the world's most dangerous morning show to Breakfast Club. 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 3: Charlamagnea God, just hilarious. DJ Nvy is out, but Lauren 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 3: Lerosa is in and we have some super super special guests. Man, 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 3: some legends are in the building, Erica Alexander and Kim Caley. 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: They have launched the Reliving Single podcast. New episodes come 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 3: out every Wednesday, starting on May seventh on YouTube. 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 3: What inspired the creation of the Reliving Single podcast? 11 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 5: You start, well, you know, looking at my Gucci, it's 12 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 5: about that time. 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 3: Why not. 14 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 5: It's been thirty years, actually thirty years two years ago. 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 5: Actually it's thirty two years that we had the anniversary 16 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 5: of our show. The problem was it was during the 17 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 5: strike and no one was allowed to say anything about 18 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 5: anything that was on a studio and or network type 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 5: of thing. So then nothing happened. And for a very 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 5: long time I was asked about reboot and I always said, 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 5: I always said yeah, I said. 22 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: Consistently because I didn't want to go. 23 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 5: I'm very identified with that character Maxie Shaw, attorney at law, 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 5: and I love her. But perhaps, and I always say 25 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 5: this very honestly, if I had a big film career 26 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 5: or something that would offset it that would be nice. 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: So it wasn't just a matter of me saying no. 28 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 5: I would be stepping into something that I didn't think 29 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 5: I could shake as easily as you know other people. 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 4: And so this. 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 5: Opportunity came and was approached by Eric Eddings at a heartbeat, 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 5: and he said, do you want to do this? I said, now, 33 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 5: not really, I don't want to do it. But he 34 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 5: kept asking, and I thought, well, makes the thirtieth anniversary. 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 5: People really love it, they're doing things. 36 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 4: All the time. Why not? 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 5: And it's an opportunity because of you. Charlemagne learned very 38 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 5: well with Color Farm, and you've given us opportunities with 39 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 5: Finding Tamika and also with Kevin with Sorry, with the reprecations, 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 5: the big payback that you can go deep in podcasts 41 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 5: where you can't do that even in documentary, and with 42 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 5: the episode after episode we'd be able to talk. And 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 5: then they approached Kim and I. 44 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 2: Said, yes, I'm waiting. I actually think that you know 45 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: this is this is shallow. I know, I think we 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: all still look good. Let's do the reboot while we listen. 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: Everybody's busy and everybody has their own other thing that 48 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: they're doing, and so this was an easy way to 49 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: give the fans and the friends of the show a 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 2: taste of what they want. For sure, everyone will come 51 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 2: on the show, and I can't I don't know if 52 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 2: I can give away that someone has already come and 53 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 2: taped an episode. Smooches death can And so it's a 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: chance to go deep. Like you said, we're going to 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 2: talk about the behind the scenes and the things. And 56 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: actually we've known each other for that long. Revelations have 57 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: come out, like things have come out like I didn't 58 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: know that about you, Erica. 59 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 4: I didn't know that about this that was going on. 60 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: Behind the scenes. 61 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: And so the audience will be let in on something 62 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: very powerful that could not even happen on a reboot. 63 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: So you're welcome. 64 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 3: So many white shows do it, scrubs, I can't remember that. 65 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: Brothers Donald and and this is. 66 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 5: Us, Yes, this is us, the Office, the first rewatch shows. 67 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we. 68 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: Are probably hosted by the actual cast members that I 69 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: can think of. I could be wrong, but I can 70 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: think of I feel so. 71 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: So it feels like the right time and we're having 72 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 2: a good time doing it. 73 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 6: Have you guys ever thought about if you did do 74 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 6: a reboot where the character's lives would be, now, Like, 75 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 6: what would the storylines be? 76 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: I have and I don't know if I'm right, you know, 77 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 2: like you know, there there was talk on the on 78 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: Living Single that Sinclair and Overton would have twins and 79 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: their names would be sin Cloverton and Overclaire. We have 80 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: twins grown up there, you know, loving so all the things, all. 81 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: The things that Maxine would be governor, yeah, you know, 82 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: probably ruling like she has always been. 83 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: You know. 84 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 5: Obviously she has to be tied up with TC's Kyle 85 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 5: Barker and they had a child on Half and Half. 86 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if that child still exists. I don't know. 87 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: I mean, you know that's a good question. She might 88 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 5: be in a in a bar somewhere. I mean, it's sorry, 89 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: in the Mexican jail somewhere, doing her damage. You know, 90 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 5: maybe she was burnt out by life. 91 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: Who knows. 92 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 5: I mean, you go that fast pace, you don't always win, 93 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 5: and a lot of lawyers burn out. 94 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: That could be so good because I mean, even even Cadi, 95 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: what she would have to make changes, There's no such 96 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: thing as the printage. 97 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: She would be a medium mogul supposed But here that's 98 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: the other thing too. I remember, you know, the fans 99 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: always say, where's a reboot? Reboot, and one time I 100 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: saw somebody say, no, I don't want to see where 101 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: they've gone, because in my mind they live in a 102 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: perfect space and a perfect place. And so anything that 103 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: we do, there will be somebody who disagrees with it. 104 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: Well, why is she in a jail? 105 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: Why is she you know, whatever it is like, there 106 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: will be no it lives in a perfect space where 107 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 2: it is right now. 108 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: So maybe let it be definitely a jail storyline. 109 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 5: We wouldn't want that situation, you know what I'm saying, 110 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 5: meaning she was having too much fun? I mean why 111 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 5: you know, you're saying something very real or in fact 112 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 5: meets fiction. That's where we are coming and talking about 113 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 5: something that's very fact. You know, Maxine Yaw is a 114 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 5: fictional character. Eric Alexander's a fact. Eric Alexander in thirty 115 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 5: years of living has changed, you know, and we had 116 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 5: good days, bad days, We have you know, ups and downs, 117 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 5: and so I'm hoping those characters would have the same 118 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 5: things that we had. 119 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: What moments on set of living single helped shape who 120 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 3: you all are off camera, not just as actresses with 121 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 3: his women that had to navigate fame and friendship and 122 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: career pressure. 123 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: M what moments shaped who? 124 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: What moments helped shape who you are off cam? 125 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: I think we got along really well, very quickly. I 126 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 2: felt the energy from the first table read, and so 127 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: there was an energy and a respect and a friendship 128 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: and a sisterhood and a brotherhood that developed so quickly 129 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: that that permeated everything else that we did. Like we 130 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: would go and hang out together. Karica and TC have 131 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: the same exact birthday the same day. John Hinton's birthday 132 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: is two weeks later, so we would go out and like, 133 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: what do y'all want to do for your birthday? 134 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: Salsa dancing, Let's go. 135 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: So we became family really quickly, and so I think 136 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 2: that that helped infuse the energy on the set and 137 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: in our characters. 138 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: We really were friends, and we really are still friends. 139 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 5: But then we're also you know, movers and shakers. If 140 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 5: you're twenty three years old and I'm faking like I'm 141 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 5: a lawyer, I have a high school degree, and I 142 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: think it made me want to level up. I mean, 143 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 5: in my reading and how I, you know, approach life. 144 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 5: I mean, she was a killer, she was a real winner. 145 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 5: So I'd like to say that that shaped me a lot. 146 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 5: I think it was already there, but I really liked 147 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 5: how she was. She had integrity. I don't know that's 148 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 5: a really good question. 149 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 4: He really is. 150 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 5: But I think that a lot of things that have 151 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 5: happened after the show have been very, very consistent with 152 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 5: what our characters might have done. Well. 153 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 3: I try to think about that question and unpacking on 154 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: the reliving single. 155 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 4: Okay, we don't think about it. That question smitted this question. 156 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: You are the fans and the friends of the show 157 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: can sending their questions. 158 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: And so we call it true blue. Did it blue? 159 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we will make sure that one so you 160 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 2: heard it here first, and then we'll unpack it further. 161 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. 162 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: He's giving us. 163 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 6: Homework, Erica or miss Alexander. What do you want me 164 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 6: to call your Okay, Erica the great Eric. 165 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 7: Got you the great period. 166 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 6: I was reading this article on msn and MSNBC's website 167 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 6: and the writer was talking about how you're she discovered 168 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 6: she was late. She had discovered living single for the 169 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 6: first time a year ago, and like deep dived and 170 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 6: like went and read conversations around it, and she was 171 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 6: trying to figure out why you. 172 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 7: Didn't want it, Emmy for your performance. 173 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: Oh that's good. 174 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 6: And I when I read it, I'm like, first of all, 175 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 6: late to the party, but welcome. But I thought about it, 176 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 6: and I was like, I mean, like, what's that feeling 177 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 6: like for you? Because yeah, like you said, you were 178 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 6: how old portraying the character twenty three portraying we would 179 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 6: have never known you sold it. You did it like 180 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 6: the storylines that y'all dive into, you know what I mean? Like, 181 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 6: did you ever feel like there were things that should 182 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 6: have happened. 183 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 7: For you in that role? 184 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 5: For many people, I'm unfortunately in a club that no 185 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: one wants to belong to. And especially if you think that, 186 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 5: and you know, I'll take the compliment, say thank you 187 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 5: very much. But I was right alongside people like Cely 188 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 5: Tyson and all these other people would never want anything 189 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 5: for the work that they had done. And Cecily Tyson 190 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 5: has since gotten an oscar and she got it before 191 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 5: she passed, and those types of things. But no, I 192 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 5: think blackness, racism, all the disparities and equities were there, 193 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 5: especially in the what is the early nineties, And I 194 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 5: say the blacker, the berry, the sweet of the juice, 195 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 5: the tighter the noose. 196 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: They don't let you go for so far. And that's real. 197 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 4: So it's tough. 198 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 5: That's real, and so I'm very gratified, but it's nothing 199 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 5: you can do about it. There's people like Abbott, Elementary 200 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 5: and all the other people, and they've come and doing 201 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 5: very well. But you know, being a dark skin actress 202 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: and also being funny and maybe not being the ideal 203 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 5: of what they thought funny. Girls looked like they know 204 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 5: what to do with me. And I got offered nothing 205 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 5: after I finished that show. 206 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely nothing. 207 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: No, as long as I'm alive, I will never understand 208 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: that because I feel like we grew up as far 209 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: as TV is concerned. In the peak, you know, black excellence, 210 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 3: experience of television. Cosby Show was the number one show 211 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 3: in the country. Different World was the number two show 212 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 3: in the country. What more to black people have in 213 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 3: proof when. 214 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 5: They got that Felicier for Shad never nominated for Felicia 215 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 5: Rashad eight years? I mean, yeah, there's no explanation except for, 216 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 5: you know, the gender and race disparities that have plagued 217 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 5: America for all this time, and it's not unique among 218 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 5: you know, just political people, creatives always y'all dealing with 219 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 5: it now, y'all in the So that's what that's that's 220 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 5: our race, Harriet Tubman did hers, that's ours. 221 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: How they work on all livings. Change change a change 222 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: your view of black sisterhood? And did it shift the 223 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: way you approached friendships in you your real life? 224 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: Not for me, because I have incredible female relationships, incredible 225 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: if at my high school we just celebrated our forty 226 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: fifth anniversary last week, I couldn't come because I was 227 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: headed here. 228 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: For y'all, and so I've already had next week. You 229 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: got me here now. 230 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: I'll see all tighten it up, so I'm real cute 231 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: by then. But the point is I always had really 232 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: good friendships and and and actually it felt normal to 233 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: me to be around women that I respected. Were all different, 234 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 2: but I respected and loved and so I had that 235 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: and I had that strength. So it just felt like 236 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: that felt like home. I don't know if that's the 237 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: right answer. What was the questions. 238 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 4: You're talking about the family? 239 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 5: Sorry for the women friendships, you know, I was an 240 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 5: all girls high school Philadelphia High School for Girls got 241 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 5: to give a shout out. 242 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 4: And I wasn't good with girlfriends. 243 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 5: I always loved boys. I always love men. I'm a 244 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 5: guys girl, I always have. I grew up in Arizona. 245 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 5: I'm a tomboy. I always thought of men way no, no, no, no, 246 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 5: It's not that. 247 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't that I'm used to having good girlfriends. 248 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 4: I understand. 249 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 5: But for all that I went to an all girls 250 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 5: high school, I didn't necessarily think that I practiced much 251 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 5: because that was my preference. It kind of still is. 252 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 5: I just think that there was a lot of freedom 253 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 5: I thought that men had. They took me, took me 254 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 5: for I don't say one of the guys, but once 255 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 5: you show you could stand up with them, I got 256 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 5: a lot of truth about who I was next to them, 257 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 5: and I thought sometime I was pulling my punches with women, 258 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 5: like oh, don't say that, you're gonna make her feel 259 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 5: like I'd have time for that. Yes, I completely resonate 260 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 5: with you. That's how I grew up the same way. 261 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 5: I had maybe what three homegirls, but I had like 262 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 5: ten eleven. 263 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 7: I always went where the guys went. 264 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: I'm hanging on the court. 265 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 5: That's how I became so quick on my feet with 266 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 5: being exactly having jokes, throwing them back, the throwing them 267 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 5: at me. I didn't feel guys didn't get offended when 268 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 5: I'm joking with them. You know, girls they a little 269 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 5: bit more, you know, and I'm saying, they like, I'm 270 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 5: not one. No, it was like, you know, kind of 271 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 5: you know, you like protected in that space too. I 272 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 5: feel very protected and respected. They do respect that, you like, 273 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's how girl. You know. 274 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 7: So I've been like that as well. 275 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 5: What I wanted to ask was, do either of you 276 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 5: think that Friends the show Friends truly owe some of 277 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 5: its success to the groundwork laid by Living Single. 278 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: One hundred thousand percent. One hundred thousand percent. 279 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: Moving on next question, and I always you know, this 280 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: is a little fact that most people don't know, is 281 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: that the president of the network of their network, NBC 282 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: at the time, had been asked if there was any 283 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: show that you wish you could have purchased for this, 284 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: you know, upcoming season season. He said, I wish I 285 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: bought Living Single, and then a year later there was Friends, 286 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: and so it absolutely tracks and yeah, a great show, 287 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 2: and wish them all well but it absolutely was influenced. 288 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: We influenced them. 289 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: And it was also tough because you know, we were 290 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: both Warner Brothers production. We were on this little ranch lot, 291 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 2: you know, off to the side, and they. 292 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: Were on the big lot. 293 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: We have a cafeteria and you have little try you know, 294 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: bicycles to get from hither hither and then and and 295 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: the salary. 296 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: Was huge, very different. 297 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 2: What the access they had to marketing, the access they 298 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 2: had to all the money and all the things was 299 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: very different than. 300 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 5: What we Yeah, we had craft service table run by 301 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 5: this old, beautiful, old white dude named Pops and he's 302 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 5: putting things out like rich crackers and pickled eggs. 303 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: We're like, we're gonna fart all day. But it did 304 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 4: get better. We had to ask for that though, and 305 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 4: had to. 306 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 5: I had just come from The Cosby Show, the biggest 307 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 5: show in the world. I wasn't expecting it to have 308 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 5: that kind of you know, leverage. But you did know 309 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 5: when you thought you were being treated less than. And 310 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 5: they didn't have to because, like a lot of productions, 311 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 5: if you put very little into black people, we give 312 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 5: you more. Black show Biz gives you more. And when 313 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 5: they see that the investments not necessarily there, and that's 314 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 5: what you really miss out on. 315 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: The Living Single. Even did it get pitched the NBC 316 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 3: because it would make so much sense, Like you said, 317 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: you were on the Cosby Show. The success of the 318 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: Kybee showing different world NBC should have stood for nothing 319 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 3: but colors after that's what success. 320 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: And that's not what didn't happen. 321 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 5: Actually, the good thing about it, if you if you watch, 322 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 5: if you listen to the show and watch it, Kim 323 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 5: has the origin story. 324 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: Kim is the origin story. 325 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 2: The show was created around Queen Latifa and me. A 326 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: lot of people don't know that. They called me into 327 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 2: immediate Warner Brothers and we want to do a show 328 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: and a lot of people don't know this either. 329 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: The idea for the show. The impetus was, you remember 330 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: the movie Jungle Fever. 331 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: There's a scene that they called the War Council and 332 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: its a group of women sitting around talking about men 333 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 2: and relationships and you know what they're dealing with. And 334 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: they said to me, and I'm assuming they said to 335 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: Latifa two in a separate meeting, we want to do 336 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: a show. 337 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: That's about this. 338 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: And I said, if the show is about bashing men. 339 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm not interested and not that that scene in Jungle 340 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Fever was only about bashing men, but they were handling 341 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: a particular topic and they were like, oh, okay, because 342 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: I love men, and so if we can talk about 343 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: the relationships and you know, the growth and you know, 344 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: being driven and what do you want? I was like, 345 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 2: I'm in. And they were having the same meetings with Latifa. 346 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: The two of us will put together and then we 347 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: together agreed that that Lee Bowsership be the one to 348 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: create the show. So to be there at the beginning 349 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: and to be involved in creating Sinclair and involved in 350 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 2: knowing what the relationships were going to be to start with, 351 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: and then to hear it and watch it unfold was exciting. Yeah, 352 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 2: they'll say the best and and you know, privilege And. 353 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 5: We got to give her props because both she and 354 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 5: Latifa asked for a black show runner. There are very 355 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 5: few black in especially in Hollywood. The writers, let alone 356 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 5: the showrunner. Vet Lee Bowser happened to be on different 357 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 5: world doing her things. She was on hanging with mister Cooper. 358 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 5: She had the background, but they weren't necessarily going to 359 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 5: just give that to her. 360 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: So you guys. 361 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: Asking and somebody female. 362 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 4: That was a yeah, that was like a yeah. 363 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 7: They just they just gave into that because during that time, I. 364 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: Think and if you you know, you get two people 365 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: that you've created a deal around and we both go, yeah, 366 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 2: she's the one. 367 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: They go, okay, well let's give her a shot. 368 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 6: Wow. 369 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 2: And also that we both were at the same agency, 370 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 2: so our agency helped and and and Evett was also 371 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: at the same agency. 372 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: It's called a Hollywood package. And so was Kim Fields 373 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 5: in that agency, and so was John Hinton. The only 374 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 5: two people not in that agency were me in TC. 375 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 6: So did you guys talk because a lot of times 376 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 6: now on TV, people are like, we sha conversations behind 377 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 6: the scenes, rally together and then go to the forefront 378 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 6: and act for We went, did y'all did you wan 379 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 6: queen and t for y'all? 380 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 7: Agents get to do that? 381 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: We did? 382 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: We did so that list and us we each met 383 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: with her separately and we both together said, oh, she's 384 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: the one, let's go with her. And then you know, 385 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: the agents do their do their movements. 386 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: You know that that we. 387 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: Do know about and that we don't know about. But yeah, 388 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: there was like, for example, the name of the show 389 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: was not originally Living Single. It was My girls and 390 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: I tell a story on the podcast of we were 391 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: like they wanted to change the name to Living Single, 392 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 2: and we thought it was horrible. 393 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: Who says that? Nobody talks that way? Yeah, what's up, 394 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm Living Single. 395 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 2: It's like, so I have a memory, and I don't know, 396 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 2: Dana would have to correct me. If we got into a. 397 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: Little golf cart and went from the plantation lot where. 398 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: Over to the big lot and got invited into the 399 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: office of the president of the network, like, you know, 400 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 2: president of production company right like. 401 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: We would like to protest. 402 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, well, thank you very 403 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: much forgiving you and I think, thank you for your 404 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: feedback right now. And it's like, oh, that's a terrible name. 405 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: Now it's the best name. What else would the show 406 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 2: be called? 407 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 3: Basic? 408 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 6: Right now? 409 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: We got back on the golf cart the ll. 410 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: You know, I can't wait to hear the episode with 411 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: TC costs And because he's spoken about, you know, being 412 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 3: fired from Living Single after you know, uh, for their treatment, 413 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 3: for that treatment compared to Friends, So how did the 414 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: cast is a whole field When he got fired, there 415 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: was grief, a lot of grief, anybody fight for him. 416 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, then we all fought for him, but it was 417 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 2: done before. Here's what the timing of it is. He 418 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: was let go just before the you know they call 419 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: the announcements for the shows, the upfront. We all come 420 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 2: to New York. There's a big announcement. You were on 421 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 2: stage with Fox and all the other Fox shows. I 422 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 2: didn't find out until in the hotel room, you know, 423 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: the day before. Oh, by the way, TC won't be there. 424 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: He's been let go. So it's like, so we're talking 425 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: to Evette, We're talking to people and going what's going on? 426 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: And it was my understanding is that it was already done, 427 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: so you fight for him. But if if I don't 428 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: know what else I could have done, if the decision 429 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: had already been made, I wanted not. 430 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 4: To come to work. 431 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 5: I wanted to it was I thought that once we 432 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 5: got on set that we would talk about it and 433 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 5: maybe just say we're not gonna work. 434 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 4: That's like hardcore. But it didn't go down that way. 435 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 5: And in fact, two years before I tried to leave 436 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 5: myself and got threatened to be sued. So I already 437 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 5: stepped up and I knew where I could go. 438 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 4: I was like, I wasn't Lord. See, I don't want 439 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 4: to start. I wasn't. I wasn't happy. 440 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 5: And the thing was, I didn't think that I was 441 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 5: being used well and it's it's a longer story than that, 442 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 5: and I don't want to It needs more context for 443 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 5: Vetley Bowser's saying, because Vettie Bowser had a lot to 444 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 5: do with six different characters, and there were lots of 445 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 5: things going on. But also I want to say something 446 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 5: that emotionally, a month before I got that show, originally 447 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 5: the pilot, my father had passed. 448 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 4: I had had a lot of things that I deal 449 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 4: with mentally. 450 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we didn't know that Erica, I never talked 451 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 5: about that mess. 452 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 4: But the whole. 453 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 7: Time you were there, you never talked about your father passed. 454 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 4: A No, because I don't complain. I don't talk. I 455 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 4: do my work. Like you can. 456 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: Knew that her father passed away at some point because 457 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 2: we talked, but I don't think I knew that that 458 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: had happened a month before. And to know that this 459 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 2: is one of the revelations that happened on this podcast, 460 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: it's like therapy. 461 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: You're welcome. I didn't know. 462 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, and No, but there was a lot of things 463 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 5: going on that you know you want to you think 464 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 5: you want to talk about differently, maybe with your character. 465 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 5: And maybe the reception wasn't where I thought it was. 466 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 5: But I just said I gotta go because I'm like 467 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 5: i'd been in theater and been doing other things, and 468 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 5: I said, I can go back to New York. I 469 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 5: don't need this. And it didn't work out the way 470 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 5: I got. I got threatened to be sued and all that. 471 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 3: There's another reason you probably didn't tell everybody what you 472 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 3: was actually dealing with, because they'll do stuff like that, 473 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 3: I will. 474 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 4: Sue you exactly. 475 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 5: And I didn't have the most powerful agent. I didn't 476 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 5: have that. I'd always gone on sets alone, you know, 477 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: so I was there alone, and that just trying to 478 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 5: think it through. And I thought, at the very least 479 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 5: I could just go back to what I was doing now, 480 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: back to TC, because that's what I think that he 481 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 5: didn't have. That we didn't have the armor, and. 482 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: We also were darker. 483 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 5: And I have to say, there's something to that feeling 484 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 5: like you're unprotected, and when you get back and there 485 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 5: is no plan and you don't necessarily you know, friends 486 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 5: had gotten together and they all got together to talk 487 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 5: about their salary. They stopped going in and they got 488 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 5: their salaries corrected tremendously. 489 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: It wasn't that feeling. 490 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 5: Although we were all rebels and very supportive in our 491 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 5: own way, I don't think we knew what to do. 492 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 5: And it hurts my heart because TC deserved more support 493 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 5: and there was nothing I could do. And I even said, look, 494 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 5: fire me one who would like to to go, and 495 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 5: it wasn't. It wasn't something that could happen, and it 496 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 5: was wrong to do. It was wrong to do. 497 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 3: That was he mad at y'all because he spoke up 498 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: for the treatment that you know, the unfair treatment of 499 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 3: y'all's receiving. And you would think that would be a 500 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: collective thing, like you know, none of y'all got my back. 501 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: So if this is happening behind the scenes, and if 502 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 2: you don't know, okay, we know that we were. 503 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: Getting not getting the right treatment. 504 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: If his if the decision to you, it's not like 505 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: we were brought into the meeting by the way, we're 506 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: gonna let TC go. 507 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: It's not I didn't know that. 508 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: Latifa didn't know that. We didn't know that in advance. 509 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: I didn't it was unexpected. And you wait until we 510 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: arrive in New York to go by the way, TC 511 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 2: won't be there because of this. Dana and I get 512 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 2: on the phone and go, what the hell's going on? 513 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: We get on the phone with Evet, and Evet it 514 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: is like, that's it, that's it. I didn't know there 515 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: was something else that I could do in order to 516 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: bring him back. If it's been if you're being told 517 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: that it's done, that's it. 518 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: Deal with it, and we don't. 519 00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 7: Go to work. 520 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 4: That's because we were young. Of course, there's something we 521 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 4: could have done. 522 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 5: If we all ban together and said we're not going in, 523 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 5: we could have made something happen. He could have called 524 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 5: the INAACP. We could have done these things. But these 525 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 5: are things that we didn't think about. You know, you 526 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 5: didn't know how much leverage you'd have after that. I'm 527 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 5: telling you that I know, I thought. I know, I 528 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 5: sat down with Evet. I know I had these conversations, 529 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 5: and I don't think he knew that. And it took years, 530 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 5: and we had a conversation where he said, why didn't 531 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 5: y'all stick up for me? 532 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 4: I said, that's not true, that's not true, that's not true. 533 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 5: At all, And I hate that you went all these 534 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: years thinking that didn't happen. But it's also his story 535 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 5: to tell, and there's some parts and pieces that he 536 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 5: thinks win a certain way, and there's certainly I feel 537 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 5: very much my outspokenness might have put him in a 538 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 5: position too. He thinks his outspokenness, But I was very outspoken. 539 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 4: I was writing letters to. 540 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 5: The network and doing coups and walking out, you know, 541 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 5: And I don't think that that was necessarily always taken 542 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 5: well by people who want to control you, and they 543 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 5: broke apart to people and him. 544 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 2: And it's also there's another story to tell, you know, 545 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: there's our story, there's history, and then there's the story 546 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 2: on their side. Maybe this is a conversation that you know. 547 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: I don't know if he Vet has ever talked about 548 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 2: it publicly. I don't know if Warner Brothers ever would 549 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: or if theyre ever cared to so so I feel. 550 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 4: Like all those people are gone now from Warner Brothers 551 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: that we. 552 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: Knew, but we we're bearing the burden of why didn't 553 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: we do something different and not not getting a chance 554 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 2: to get another view from what was what was happening. 555 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 5: They were saying it was a money issue. It's not 556 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 5: a money issue. That's what that's paid enough for it 557 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 5: to be a money issue. Wasn't a budgetary issue. Wasn't 558 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 5: because we bought on a new cast member and we 559 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 5: bought on they Dallas, and so that's not true. 560 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: I don't know what's true. All I know is that 561 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 4: he was gone. It was right. 562 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 5: And let's go on record to say he's a magnificent actor, 563 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 5: always on time, always knew his lines. It did not 564 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 5: make sense, and there you're living in a world that 565 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 5: doesn't always make sense and certainly is. 566 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 7: Not fair on the pack. 567 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: If I had Instagram, would you have gone live and 568 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: just aired out the whole cast and. 569 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: We had nothing back? 570 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 6: Then? 571 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: We had nothing back? Of course we would have. 572 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 4: I would have. I'm telling you what I did that. 573 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 4: I did that great, yes, you know. 574 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 5: And I didn't think that my badge was gonna work 575 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: the next day because I came in and I came 576 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 5: in here speaking of everybody. Anybody speak back, and I knew, I, uh. 577 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 4: Huh, whatever, No, you know. You you said give me because. 578 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: I was so mad, like what happened on me? 579 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 4: And you called me whack. It was a lot going 580 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 4: on it's growing. 581 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: It's not a conversation you could have had privately with 582 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: them to fix with me. 583 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: Conversation before after that. So yeah, I wasn't wrong. 584 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: It was wrong the way I did it. 585 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: Did the negotiation work for you? That period? 586 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 7: Family? 587 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: The family? 588 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 7: We are here and we are family. 589 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,920 Speaker 4: Family. Yeah, this conflict. 590 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 5: You don't go through this life with everything personal collaboration, 591 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 5: conflict and you know, confusion. 592 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, leads the confession. We got that period conversion. They 593 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 4: gotta go do, Sherry. 594 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 6: I know you're gonna answer this, but I hope you're 595 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 6: gonna get into the beauty center and the weight los 596 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 6: stuff that Queena Tiava talks about that they threw on you. 597 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 7: Guys. Make sure you're getting in the podcast. Please. I 598 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 7: would love to hear the. 599 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: Conception and they said they're gonna have me on there. 600 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely please, she. 601 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 7: Said have me to or she's gonna go back live again. 602 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: You're welcome, Thank you. 603 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: That would be our the legends, Erica, Alexander and Kim Coles. 604 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: Make sure you check out the Reliving Single podcast, new 605 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: episodes every Wednesday starting this Wednesday, May seventh, on YouTube. 606 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: And Yes, I am going to talk to Erica about 607 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 3: getting the audio on the black effect. Goddammit. 608 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to protest to. 609 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 4: The club. 610 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 7: Wake that answer up in the morning. 611 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club MHM.