WEBVTT - The Baker, The Shaker, and The Baby Maker

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison Lauren Zema coming to you from the home

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<v Speaker 1>office in beautiful Austin, Texas. I hope everybody had a

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<v Speaker 1>great holiday week. You had a good Thanksgiving. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to spend some time with family or better yet, the

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<v Speaker 1>people you really love. He's joking, I'm joking. No, it's uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Laura and I often discussed like do you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to spend time with family. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>into that someday. But we spent Thanksgiving. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>I went to your hometown and your childhood home in Elgin, Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>not Chicago. It's a suburbs, yes, beautiful, and it was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. I absolutely had the best time with

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<v Speaker 1>Donna Zema, your mom, Christina, your sister. Unfortunately, the guys

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't make it this year. It was me. I was

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<v Speaker 1>solo with the ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>You were, which you know, I think you do well

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<v Speaker 2>in that environment.

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<v Speaker 1>It is where I thrive the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why do you think that is? Is it all

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<v Speaker 2>because of the show, because you actually grew up with

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<v Speaker 2>just a brother. But we've had this discussion before. You

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<v Speaker 2>like one time we went on a trip to Mexico. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and my little sister. We invited my little sister and

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<v Speaker 2>her husband. Her husband wasn't able to come, but we

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<v Speaker 2>told my sister was like, well, I just want to come.

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<v Speaker 2>So we ended up doing a trip a few days.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I and then my sister joined. And you

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<v Speaker 2>just do well when it's you and the ladies. What

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<v Speaker 2>is that about?

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<v Speaker 1>I think Number one, I was raised by amazingly strong,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful women. True, your mother, my mom, my cousins, and

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother and aunts, and so I just I've always

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<v Speaker 1>had really really strong women present in my life. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I just you know, keep up or shut up.

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<v Speaker 1>And then obviously I think the show, the show had

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<v Speaker 1>to have had some effect over twenty years of being

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by thirty women and dealing with all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because let's well, here's an easy way to tell. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>picture yourself in a situation like this past week. And

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<v Speaker 2>what happened was my little brother. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's heard there is this horrible illness sweeping respiratory dogs. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>so my little brother has two dogs. His kennel canceled.

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<v Speaker 2>He had to stay home in California with his dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>so he couldn't make Thanksgiving. And then my sister's husband

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<v Speaker 2>was with his parents. So in the situation we had

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend which was you, me, my mom, and my sister.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you have done like in your twenties Chris

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<v Speaker 2>Harrison before ever being on the show versus now, Chris Harrison,

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<v Speaker 2>how would you have vibed in each you know, before

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<v Speaker 2>or after the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Good question. I think I feel I would have feared

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<v Speaker 1>the same in that I would have done well. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have been comfortable in this situation. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>I am with my experience and my age, I am

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<v Speaker 1>much more comfortable of just letting things happen, letting things

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<v Speaker 1>roll off.

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<v Speaker 2>My family and every guy your age would be like

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<v Speaker 2>shirle out with all the women in my family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, things just don't bother me at all like that

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<v Speaker 1>in that regard. I don't know if they ever ever

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<v Speaker 1>would have, but definitely now in my life, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I really just relish the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>be with you. We divided and conquered a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>times early on in our relationship, and sometimes it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the way we get through it, and we kind of

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<v Speaker 1>appease both our families, but I obviously I just love

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<v Speaker 1>it when we're together and it means so much to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It meant a lot to me. We didn't fly together

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<v Speaker 1>to Chicago, but it meant a lot to me just

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<v Speaker 1>flying into Chicago. Walking through O'Hare Airport, which is of

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<v Speaker 1>many airports, is maybe the most beautifully dressed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so fascinating. Yeah, shout out to O'Hare Airport, famously

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<v Speaker 2>filmed in home alone when the family is running trying

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<v Speaker 2>to catch the plane. They always do the best Christmas decoration.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that one American Airlines terminal where they shot that scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's where we arrive because we fly American in there,

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<v Speaker 1>and so walking through that is it is iconic and

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<v Speaker 1>whether you know it or not, you know it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it just it sparks that kind of nostalgia. And so

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<v Speaker 1>oh here airport's beautiful and the airport was not crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody was awesome, and it was good to go out

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<v Speaker 1>to your childhood home, which I had never been before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had heard so much about it, just to

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<v Speaker 1>see the origin story of Lauren z Ema.

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<v Speaker 2>Did it change the way you thought of me at all? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's cemented of why who you are, why

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<v Speaker 1>the way you are, of just you. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about Midwestern people, I think we have this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of how giving they are and loving and nurturing

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of family oriented. And the way you grew

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<v Speaker 1>up I wouldn't say on a farm, but you guys

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<v Speaker 1>kind of grew up on some land.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>You were kind of isolated with your family, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like it was little, a little little house on

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<v Speaker 1>the prairie for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. So I think people don't because I say

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from Chicago, because if anybody else out there is

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<v Speaker 2>from the Chicago suburbs. If there's so many Chicago suburbs,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you say the name of your suburb Lake

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<v Speaker 2>Forest or Neighborville or whatever, people unfamiliar are like, well

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<v Speaker 2>where is that? So I just say Chicago and people

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<v Speaker 2>who live in the city get annoyed at people who

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<v Speaker 2>live in the suburbs saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know it's from Chicago. That's like me, I'm from Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>And when people I'm like, oh, where are you from

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<v Speaker 1>Denton or McKenny, you're not from Dallas, then okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well so, but I grew up on several acres

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<v Speaker 2>of land because we're kind of forty minutes to an

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<v Speaker 2>hour outside the city, and my parents bought the land

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<v Speaker 2>like back in the eighties and like built our house

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<v Speaker 2>on it. So yeah, it is kind of isolated. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think it gave me And it was interesting to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you about it because it kind of made

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<v Speaker 2>me reflect on what I got out of that upbringing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think two major things. One, it made my family

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<v Speaker 2>very close, Like we didn't have neighbors, so my siblings

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<v Speaker 2>and I were always hanging out together, and my siblings

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<v Speaker 2>and I are very close today. And two it gave me, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it also made me a kind of a weirdo. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>say three things. I love being a weirdo. We had

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<v Speaker 2>to read a lot. Again, we did have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people to hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>With, wander through the woods, acting.

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<v Speaker 2>Using our imaginations. So and then three, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>gave me like a sense of you know, our family

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<v Speaker 2>pitches in and helps and does things together. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't come home for the holidays and just sit around

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<v Speaker 2>and my mom does everything. And part of that was

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<v Speaker 2>growing up sort of in the woods. I mean, one

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<v Speaker 2>time my sister and I came home for Christmas and

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<v Speaker 2>an owl had dropped dead in our front yard and

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<v Speaker 2>my sister and I had to go shovel that owl

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<v Speaker 2>and bring it out to the woods. And so that's

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<v Speaker 2>just like what my family does and what I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to compliment you on. And if anybody's just starting to

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<v Speaker 2>date someone and maybe you are planning on or did

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<v Speaker 2>bring them home to your family for the first time

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<v Speaker 2>this holiday season, It is such a gauge to me

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<v Speaker 2>on a relationship if you bring someone home and they

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<v Speaker 2>jump in and start helping, Like, do they just see

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<v Speaker 2>themselves as a guest, or are they Hey, can I

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<v Speaker 2>do anything in the kitchen? Can I take the trash out?

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<v Speaker 2>Can I? Like? That is such a read on what

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<v Speaker 2>type of partner person is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Look for stuff to do, don't wait to be asked,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't just go sit in front of the television

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<v Speaker 1>and watch football whatever. Get involved. And to me, that

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<v Speaker 1>was that's how I've I've honestly connected very well with

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<v Speaker 1>your mom because we spend a lot of time in

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen together. We talk and you know, we just

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<v Speaker 1>share things. It's not anything specific. And I enjoy also

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<v Speaker 1>being involved and engaged. It gives me something to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am so grateful because Lord knows, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>help my mom in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get involved in your ways, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as I.

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<v Speaker 2>Set up the tables, I set up the bar. Thank god,

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<v Speaker 2>Chris Harrison, the Soux chef is the soux chef my

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<v Speaker 2>mom always wanted in her family. Let's talk about your

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<v Speaker 2>pecan pie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I was in charge of my famous mashed

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<v Speaker 1>potatoes and I did a tenderloin and that famous that wow,

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<v Speaker 1>world famous, world famous mashed potato.

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<v Speaker 2>Were they ever on the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody can know. I've never cooked on the show. I

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<v Speaker 1>never I would have been I would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>good date. If I had cooked for them, that would

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<v Speaker 1>be hilarious. They showed up and I just cooked them

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<v Speaker 1>dinner and we all hung out. That would actually been

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<v Speaker 1>a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go on a quick we need a

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<v Speaker 2>name for when we do this. I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 2>on a tree branch for a minute, just branch out

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<v Speaker 2>from the main topic and we'll circle back. What are

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<v Speaker 2>some things you wanted to do on the show, because

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<v Speaker 2>I know that it was always you know, you had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of bosses. And I've been in that situation too,

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<v Speaker 2>where you have a fun, creative idea and people just

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<v Speaker 2>say no, no, no, what did you want to do

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<v Speaker 2>or film or do as a date? That never happened?

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<v Speaker 1>The A number one When the kids were younger, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to show up at a date and drop off

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<v Speaker 1>my kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did they never do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I pitched this idea for years when the kids were younger,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, here's what I'm gonna do. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to set it up like, oh, we're having

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<v Speaker 1>a fun, sexy movie night. Nope, ding dong, here's my kids. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back in a few hours and just leave

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<v Speaker 1>my kids and you have to babysit them.

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<v Speaker 2>Brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would have told my kids because they were

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<v Speaker 1>olding a and like, yeah, be a holy tare just

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<v Speaker 1>like raise hell today. But I thought that would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a great date because that's real life, Like now,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to take care of kids, and how are

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<v Speaker 1>you know even if they were super young, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids were born while I was doing the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh was born six weeks before I got hired, but

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<v Speaker 1>then Taylor was a couple of years later, so they

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<v Speaker 1>were young enough to where I mean, they could have

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<v Speaker 1>been diaper changing age, like you have to watch babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Such a good idea, and it would have been safe

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<v Speaker 2>because sometimes if you bring in like outside unknown kids,

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<v Speaker 2>that can be a little that's a lot on a set.

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<v Speaker 1>Or for but no union issues. These are my kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would have sat in the control room and

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<v Speaker 1>made sure they weren't going to, you know, really harm

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<v Speaker 1>them too much. And I would have been able to

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<v Speaker 1>judge a lot by that. Yes, see how they are

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the reason why they never did that, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't give Probably because he was my idea. They

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<v Speaker 1>hated if I ever had an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish people sometimes okay, I don't want to get

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<v Speaker 2>it all, get into it, go well. There's just something

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<v Speaker 2>really psychological that happens in this business. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if other industries are like it, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>because when you are like an on camera personality, the

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<v Speaker 2>higher ups never want you. They don't want to pay

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<v Speaker 2>you that much. So the part of the way that

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<v Speaker 2>they keep your salary down is they kind of psychologically

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<v Speaker 2>make you feel like your ideas aren't good enough or

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else could take this job. You're it's not that

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<v Speaker 2>you're so good at it, And I definitely think that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a one I worked for someone specifically who had

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of belief that if it wasn't their idea,

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<v Speaker 1>then it was not a good idea. Yeah, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was an odd, odd way to work for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember there were some scenes that you did some bits,

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<v Speaker 2>like during the pandemic seasons, whenever it was at Lakita.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember who season that like Tasha and Claire's

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<v Speaker 2>I think, and you were so funny, And even though

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<v Speaker 2>we were dating at the time, I remember thinking, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm dating this guy, and I'm a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>rose colored glasses on for him. But he's funny, and

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<v Speaker 2>you never got to do those funny You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Why we did that. We were able to do it

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<v Speaker 1>is because we were in quarantine and the people didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that much to do well, and the people that

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<v Speaker 1>were usually the biggest roadblocks, they weren't willing to come quarantine.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't want to be with us. So the producers

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<v Speaker 1>I really got along with and really loved, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought were amazingly creative and really ran the show. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to put up with any roadblocks. We were

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<v Speaker 1>in this bubble, and so we got to actually finally

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<v Speaker 1>do what we wanted to do, which was half some laughter,

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<v Speaker 1>make me kind of a comedic moment or two at

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<v Speaker 1>a time. So that's we were bizarrely more unfettered.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, that totally makes sense, because those people didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to bother to quarantine.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, they weren't. They talked about coming, but they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't ever going to come.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to Thanksgiving. I made a pie, and you are

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<v Speaker 2>a pie perfectionist.

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<v Speaker 1>No, well, yes, but I'm not a baker. I do

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<v Speaker 1>love to cook. I love to make food. I love

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<v Speaker 1>to make you dinners and things like that, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a baker and it is a different skill set,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I don't bake a lot of cakes and

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<v Speaker 1>cookies and pies. And in fact, I never made a

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<v Speaker 1>pecan pie from scratch. By the way, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>make the crust, so that part was not from scratch,

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<v Speaker 1>but the rest was. And you guys went somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably Marshalls, probably Marshalls or.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you know what, y'all went to Orange Theory. You

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<v Speaker 1>did a late night Orange Theory Sash I and y'all

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<v Speaker 1>asked if I wanted to go. I said, no, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to stay and get this pecan pie done because

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<v Speaker 1>your mom only has one oven and we were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of trying to share the oven, and so I stayed

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<v Speaker 1>to make a pie. They were making other pies, and

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<v Speaker 1>so the oven was set at like three seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I needed it three point fifty. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an away game. You know how you're not

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable in someone else's, you know, stadium. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>in your mom's. I didn't really understand the oven, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get it down to the right temperature, and

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<v Speaker 1>I burned my first pie.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't that burnt. But this is why I say

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<v Speaker 2>pie perfectionist in the most complimentary way. I knew he

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<v Speaker 2>like we got back. He's like, I burnt the pie.

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<v Speaker 2>It really wasn't burnt.

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<v Speaker 1>It was well, if you watch Great British Baking Show,

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<v Speaker 1>it was over baked, yes. Paul would have said overbaked,

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<v Speaker 1>over baked, yes, And so it was just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ten to fifteen degrees hotter than it should have been,

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<v Speaker 1>which so it didn't spare.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what was so cute. Yeah, I knew you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be able to let it go. I knew it. I'm like, babe,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really fine, but I knew. And finally I just said,

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<v Speaker 2>do you want us to get more stuff? And do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to rebake this pie? And of course you

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<v Speaker 2>said yes, you need to put out a good product.

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<v Speaker 2>It's important.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to impress your mom. And I knew the

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<v Speaker 1>family was coming over. I wanted to produce what I

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<v Speaker 1>said I was going to produce and so, and I

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<v Speaker 1>needed to prove to myself that I could do this

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<v Speaker 1>because I had the process down. I'm like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>got this, the slow pour in and this. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I got the process, and it was just that stupid

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<v Speaker 1>extra fifteen degreeses. I'm like, damn it, I can do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And the next one actually turned out really well.

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<v Speaker 2>I I the pie was great. Everybody loved it. His

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<v Speaker 2>tenderloin crushed, the mashed potatoes famous killed all very good.

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<v Speaker 2>You just men that you didn't make your own dough.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a serious question, because you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what cheats are acceptable in the kitchen at the holidays,

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like making your own dough or not. I know

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<v Speaker 2>some people will you know some people just go buy

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<v Speaker 2>their turkey, yeah or whatever, Like, what are you.

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<v Speaker 1>I talk to a woman today who she was telling

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<v Speaker 1>me how she was making her turkey, and I asked

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<v Speaker 1>her today post things give us they had to go.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, it actually turned out great. I'll never do

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<v Speaker 1>it again. And I don't disagree with that. I told her,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you know, I get that. There's I take

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<v Speaker 1>joy in the work. I think your mom does too.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if your sister does as much, but

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<v Speaker 1>she was in there cranking it out with us. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are people that truly get enjoyment from

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<v Speaker 1>the days leading up to it. I'm fine if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to buy the whole thing, buy the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>go to a store, go to whatever, have it catered.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with that. But I just there are certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I would be okay with. Personally, I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>okay with, get the proteins, go get a turkey, go

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<v Speaker 1>get a tenderloin and whatever. I enjoy making the sides.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the fun part.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I was also going to say, I'm totally like,

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<v Speaker 2>pick up a pie, you know, from your great local bakery.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously, I can't say anything about it because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't cook any of it. But I actually fall

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<v Speaker 2>in the category of liking the preparation more because to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Thanksgiving, the day was great, my cousins were there,

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<v Speaker 2>we played some card games, We had a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>But you get so much more like I love family chaos,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think some fun family chaos happens when my

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<v Speaker 2>mom's going to the grocery store twenty times, and did

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<v Speaker 2>she accidentally forget to pull the turkey out of the

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<v Speaker 2>freezer And we're cleaning the house, and in those little moments,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, life happens in the little moments. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>in those little moments is when we laugh the most

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<v Speaker 2>and we're kind of tired and we're teasing each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and those are where I make a lot of memories.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. The two days I spent in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>with your mom were my favorite times with your mom.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the most intimate where I got to talk

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<v Speaker 1>and share and both you know, we you were off

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<v Speaker 1>doing stuff and it was just us. And so to

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<v Speaker 1>me that if I had lost all that and I

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<v Speaker 1>just came in and we laid out pre prepared stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and pre bought stuff, it wouldn't have been the same

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<v Speaker 1>moment for me. It wouldn't have been the same experience.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like that. I like getting in the weeds

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<v Speaker 1>and diving in and cooking and making our mistakes. And

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<v Speaker 1>your mom is like me. She cusses and gets mad

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<v Speaker 1>when she makes a mistake in the kitchen, just like

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<v Speaker 1>I do. Like we very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Sh A lot has happened since I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>We weren't allowed to say the word sucks when we

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<v Speaker 2>were kids, like that sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, your mom did not you thought

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<v Speaker 1>she said one thing. And she really doesn't cuss. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like gosh, darn or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your she started cussing. Yeah, she's growing up and

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<v Speaker 2>she started cussing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I hope everybody had a great

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving and I did. I loved oh And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>a shout out to Mariano's. I think that was the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery story I went to, isn't it? Yes, good memories

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<v Speaker 1>Jewel Osco. Had never been to a Jewel Losco. They

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<v Speaker 1>were great, such.

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<v Speaker 2>A great wa to get in touch with the place

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<v Speaker 2>you're visiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to the local grocer totally. And also you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it the Beef Shock beef Shack?

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<v Speaker 2>His first Chicago beef.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I got there and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, what do you want? I said, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>want Italian beef.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's like a sandwich, that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we went to a place called Beef Shack

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<v Speaker 1>and it was fantastic. I this is what a gluttonis,

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago pig. I wanted to be because I'm a foodie.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love trying everything. So I got the beef

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich there and I got a hot dog, a Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>dog that was you know, has the pickles, the relish,

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<v Speaker 1>the green, the super green. No, but it was very good.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had to get a pizza before I left,

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<v Speaker 1>and I went to lou mal Natti's right Loom and

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<v Speaker 1>I posted about this. I'd tell you what, that really

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<v Speaker 1>strikes a very personal emotional cord. I've never had so

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<v Speaker 1>many Chicagoans reach out to me and be like that

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<v Speaker 1>is the best. That is what I dreamed, and I

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<v Speaker 1>order it and they will ship it to you. But

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<v Speaker 1>we had a great because we were at the second

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<v Speaker 1>oldest Lou mel Naughties that opened in nineteen seventy one, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think people are very passionate about the food.

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<v Speaker 2>They grew up on the local spots. I mean, some

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<v Speaker 2>of those local spots become franchises or chains. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>always interesting to see what lives up to the hype,

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<v Speaker 2>because sometimes you know, like I remember, I told you

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<v Speaker 2>about Portillo's and about Portillo's chocolate cake and how great

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<v Speaker 2>it was, and then you tried it and it did

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<v Speaker 2>live up.

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<v Speaker 1>It changed my life. The Portillo's chocolate cake changed my life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest chocolate cake I've ever had. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever have a chance Portillo's, by the way, congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>They are spreading around the country. I saw one in Scottsdale, Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>and a couple other c They're moving iois but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it is a Chicago, Illinois thing. Oh one more, shout out,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the name of your favorite Greek restaurant? Y'all finally

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<v Speaker 1>took me to here.

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<v Speaker 2>We love Greek Isles. It's in Lombard. It's also in

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<v Speaker 2>downtown Chicago, and it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Old school Greek. And it was Lauren and her mom

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<v Speaker 1>and her sister. They've been telling me about this place

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<v Speaker 1>for forever. And they always go and I've always wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to visit. So we went to Greek Isle's as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was great. Yes, it was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 2>So I did I just realized, I didn't tell you what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking a turn Tree Branch. That's where we had

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<v Speaker 2>my dad's celebration of life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really kind of wake yes, yeah, so that place

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<v Speaker 1>is I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I just realized I didn't tell you that. Yeah, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>we had it. So that's how important that restaurants us.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I'm really glad I went. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, though, I just realized that's a really

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful thing about it is we don't have sadness when

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<v Speaker 2>we're there though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. No, it was definitely a joyful celebration.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we kind of did an early birthday dinner for me,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've had a lot of family celebrations there over

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<v Speaker 2>the years. And as I think about it, that's really

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<v Speaker 2>pretty beautiful that one place can be all those things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it can be a place of reflection

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<v Speaker 2>and tears but joy and Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And my favorite thing about the Zema ladies. When we

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<v Speaker 1>go to restaurants, I really don't order. I just sit

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<v Speaker 1>there they order. We also went to an Italian place

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<v Speaker 1>that was really good and I just sit. I know

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<v Speaker 1>the food's going to come my way and the zema

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<v Speaker 1>don't get in the way. Just And we also went

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<v Speaker 1>to the local Orange Theory twice. Yes, I went with

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<v Speaker 1>your mom, your sister and yourself. There was all four

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<v Speaker 1>of us. We lined up on the treadmills. Treadmill one

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<v Speaker 1>through four.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to Misty, she's missed the instructor in Bartlett, Illinois.

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<v Speaker 1>Bartlett, Illinois that we went to the Bartlet Orange Theory twice.

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<v Speaker 2>But what again? Is great? And I guess I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that you're listening everything and getting everyone shout out.

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<v Speaker 2>But what it makes me think is when you visit

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<v Speaker 2>someone's family, jump in, do what they do? Like a

0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:50.680
<v Speaker 2>big red flag to me is not only does someone

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<v Speaker 2>not pitch in and help, but if you go to

0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:54.879
<v Speaker 2>somebody's house, do you make it about you? If you

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<v Speaker 2>go out to dinner with somebody and their people and

0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 2>they like to order and share, are you the well? No,

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<v Speaker 2>I just like to get my own thing. Like when

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<v Speaker 2>you're on somebody else's turf, jump in, live life the

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<v Speaker 2>way they lived. Experience that you're kind of seeing their

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.760
<v Speaker 2>family culture, their vibe. Maybe you don't have to do

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<v Speaker 2>it forever, but you did a really great job of

0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:13.560
<v Speaker 2>doing that the first time. And it's not something I

0:21:13.600 --> 0:21:15.000
<v Speaker 2>asked you to do, it's just who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I loved it, and it was great to see

0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.879
<v Speaker 1>a little piece of your history in your origin story.

0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:22.920
<v Speaker 1>And it was great to go to Elgin, Illinois in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to the headline.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's jump in with something that happened over Thanksgiving weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>You were very excited about it. Dolly Partons. Was it

0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:49.840
<v Speaker 2>a halftime performance at the Dallas Cowboys game but started

0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:53.320
<v Speaker 2>some controversy. I would never think that Dolly Parton would

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:57.520
<v Speaker 2>come a controversy. Everybody loves her. But she wore a

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<v Speaker 2>Dallas cheer cheerleaders uniform at seventy seven years old. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and some people took issue with.

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<v Speaker 1>It a couple of First of all, the Dallas Cowboys

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:11.919
<v Speaker 1>playing on Thanksgiving is a tradition. They always play on

0:22:11.920 --> 0:22:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving days, kind of like the Detroit Lions, although Detroit

0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 1>always loses unfortunately, and the Cowboys always win. They didn't

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>play each other, but that game is a tradition. Watching

0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.479
<v Speaker 1>it on Thanksgiving as a family tradition of mine, and

0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.240
<v Speaker 1>I was very thankful that you guys didn't mind that

0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I had the game on at the Zema house. So

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:34.160
<v Speaker 1>we watched the Cowboy game and two things. Number one,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Harlowe performed at a prior game earlier that day

0:22:39.160 --> 0:22:46.000
<v Speaker 1>and had a disastrous performance. It was unbelievably panned, critically destroyed.

0:22:46.520 --> 0:22:49.840
<v Speaker 1>It was really weird. Nobody's really sure if he was

0:22:49.880 --> 0:22:54.320
<v Speaker 1>sabotaged by his manager. What happened. It was terrible. So

0:22:54.480 --> 0:23:00.200
<v Speaker 1>then it's always a big tradition with the Salvation Army

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:04.160
<v Speaker 1>that the Cowboys have a Salvation Army halftime show on

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving Day. It kind of kicks off their Giving and

0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:09.360
<v Speaker 1>it's a big deal who the performer is. This year

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:13.440
<v Speaker 1>was the legend the icon Dolly parton. Everybody was pretty

0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 1>excited about that. Just in general, it's Texas, It's Dolly.

0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Things are bigger in Texas, if you know what I mean.

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:23.040
<v Speaker 1>And Dolly comes out and she is in the most

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:26.959
<v Speaker 1>iconic uniform, maybe next to the Cowboys themselves. The Dallas

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys cheerleaders, as we say, and as they say, often imitated,

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:34.160
<v Speaker 1>never equalled. Well, I think they were imitated and equalled

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 1>by Dolly Parton because guys, she crushed it. And I

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know why anybody thinks that's controversial. I don't know

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.800
<v Speaker 1>why anybody has a problem with it, because she is

0:23:44.840 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>a legend, and the thing, the legend of Dolly has

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.119
<v Speaker 1>always been a woman who forged her own path, the

0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>woman who broke through every glass ceiling, who created this

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>industry on her own, a female artist and a very

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 1>male driven world, especially when she broke in. I mean

0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>think of her as kind of the Barbara Walters of

0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>country music. She was doing this at a time when

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:11.399
<v Speaker 1>it was really not all that welcomed and admired, and

0:24:11.480 --> 0:24:13.640
<v Speaker 1>she did it. And so for her to come out

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and what break another mold, you got a problem with it.

0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>She is a badass, legendary icon, and she just once

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:22.280
<v Speaker 1>again proved why she is a legend.

0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 2>I agree with everything you just said. I mean, some

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 2>people were saying, you know, and I hate when media

0:24:28.320 --> 0:24:33.119
<v Speaker 2>does this, when it's like grab one tweet and you know,

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 2>act like that's the I think overall people didn't have

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.800
<v Speaker 2>an issue with it, you know, I guess I saw

0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.440
<v Speaker 2>it was like the one tweet was like act your

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.960
<v Speaker 2>age I mean, please, I think.

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.480
<v Speaker 1>What's acting seventy seven? Do you want to walk out

0:24:46.520 --> 0:24:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and over?

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>What that mentality says to me is like a judgment

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:52.679
<v Speaker 2>on women. I mean, so what if that was a

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.000
<v Speaker 2>So if that's a woman in it's ages, and if

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<v Speaker 2>that's a woman who's twenty five wearing that, then it's okay.

0:24:57.400 --> 0:24:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah you think she's hotter? Is that better for right?

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Dolly Carden's beautiful. She looks great, like you said,

0:25:04.240 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she has always beaten march to the beat

0:25:08.240 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 2>of her own drum, and.

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:10.280
<v Speaker 1>That's what makes her great.

0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:12.760
<v Speaker 2>And she's changed the world by doing that. So thank

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:14.399
<v Speaker 2>you for changing the world in many ways, Dolly.

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know, definitely paved you know, paved the path

0:25:17.680 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>for whether it's Kelly Clarkson or know any all the

0:25:21.520 --> 0:25:23.239
<v Speaker 1>women that came through in the nineties, you name it

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that like, she is the one who paved that path.

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 1>And she was on the show. Dolly was on Bachelor

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it was Emily Maynard season. She was on.

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I think we went to Dolly World. Good guest, Yeah,

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and yeah it was a good guest. She was awesome.

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 1>She's just salt of the earth, beautiful woman. Love her,

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad that she really blew it up on

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving Day for my beloved Dallas Cowboys who won and

0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.720
<v Speaker 1>made it just that much sweeter, made the pie taste

0:25:52.760 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 1>that much better on Thanksgiving.

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Here's a comparison I would give if a seventy five

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 2>year old I don't know actor sports announcer say that, How.

0:26:02.880 --> 0:26:04.360
<v Speaker 1>About Mick Jagger, he's one hundred and eight.

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, if he came out in a Dallas Cowboys football

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.960
<v Speaker 2>uniform because they were performing, would anyone have said, Mick

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 2>actor age? Oh no, they think it was.

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Funny about So when Creed came out years ago and

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>they were in Dallas Cowboy uniforms.

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:18.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't remember.

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the inspirational Creed moment.

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 2>Wow Creed.

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>By the way. A little media note, Forty one point

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 1>four million people watched the Dallas Cowboys versus the Washington

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:36.520
<v Speaker 1>Commander's football game. Obviously a captive audience. That is why

0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:39.200
<v Speaker 1>Jerry always makes sure the Dallas Cowboys play on Thanksgiving Day.

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 1>But when you think TV is dead, when you think

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>things have gone by the wayside, forty one million people.

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:49.119
<v Speaker 1>That was the third largest viewing audience of a regular

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.880
<v Speaker 1>season football game in the history of the NFL. That's

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty crazy, all right.

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Another headline Catherine McPhee and David Foster talking about the

0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:02.239
<v Speaker 2>way that they discipline their two year old son. So

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:06.160
<v Speaker 2>they are acknowledging and saying that they have very different

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:10.199
<v Speaker 2>parenting styles. In fact, Catherine says, quote, his era of

0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 2>parenting is different. Now I'm giving their ages here because

0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:17.680
<v Speaker 2>that's what they're talking about. Katherin mcpheas thirty nine. Her husband,

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>David Foster is seventy four.

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>You could be a Dallas cowboy cheerleader outfit to be perfect, right,

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:26.480
<v Speaker 1>He's right in that age group.

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:28.919
<v Speaker 2>So they have their two year old son, and I

0:27:28.960 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 2>guess David is kind of wanting to discipline and Catherine

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 2>doesn't think that they're really ready to be in that

0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>disciplinary place yet. And she said his era of parenting

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>is different. So the questionnaire is, you know, how do

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 2>you handle that as a couple, How do you handle

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:51.200
<v Speaker 2>it if you have such different parenting styles In this case,

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 2>it's about the way you were raised, your era that

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 2>you came up in.

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>And by the way, no indictment on their age difference whatever,

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>But basically what we're talking about is the way I

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:03.719
<v Speaker 1>raise my kids in the way my parents because he

0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.040
<v Speaker 1>is the same age as my parents.

0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Well he has like fully grown adult children, so he's

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 2>already done the parenting thing once through its n.

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>But this is a it's a generation gap. It is

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 1>a difference in how generations raise kids. He I mean,

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>so seventy four, So that's back what in the fifties,

0:28:19.760 --> 0:28:21.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, when he was born, and so he was

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.640
<v Speaker 1>raising kids in the sixties and seventies, maybe the eighties,

0:28:24.720 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 1>and so that was a very very different time in

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.360
<v Speaker 1>the world. And so I get it.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>He actually has two daughters in their fifties.

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 1>So his daughters are older than me.

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, he has daughters in their fifties, their forties, and

0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:39.400
<v Speaker 2>a daughter in her thirties.

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I will say he's done it. He's been there, actually

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.400
<v Speaker 1>parented through a lot of aeras. He has been through

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of areas, he's been through the trenches. So

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I you know, look, it's hard to deny when it

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>has worked before. But I'm sure I'm curious what the

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>big differences are. If it's like I spank, he very

0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 1>well may have spanked his kids, you know, back in

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the seventies and eighties and nineties, that's well, spank their kids.

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's kind of frowned upon now, and

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>so maybe that is her thing, or maybe the way

0:29:05.640 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>he talks and he's tough love and a little more

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 1>stern in my way or the highway, whereas I'm guessing

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe she's a more reasonable. You know, there are those

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>parents who are like, we don't ever say no to

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>our kids. We encourage, we, you know, talk to them,

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm guessing those are the usually the one.

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Of the comments she says in this article is like,

0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>she's not someone who wants to say that's bad, Like,

0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 2>don't do that, that's bad. You know. I do think

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:35.320
<v Speaker 2>parentings evolved in a lot of good ways over the

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 2>years too, you know, with new research and what works

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.080
<v Speaker 2>with kids and what doesn't. And I mean, look, we

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 2>all have childhood trauma where our parents raised us. So

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:48.720
<v Speaker 2>to me, what's important because whether it's an age gap

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 2>or where you're from, a lot of people are going

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 2>to have had different upbringings and that's going to create

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 2>different parenting styles. A friend of mine, who is so

0:29:57.440 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 2>insane with her husband, told me this simple thing. She said,

0:30:01.200 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>We talked a lot about how we wanted to parent

0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 2>before we became parents, And I thought, I don't know

0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 2>if that's something a lot of people do.

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>No, I think you're like, well, we're parents, now let's

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>start parenting.

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:13.880
<v Speaker 2>You're right now, Well, I think you fall in love

0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 2>and you talk about are we going to get married?

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Or we do we work together?

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>But when you're great conversation to have.

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do you have the conversation Maybe you say do

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 2>we want to have kids? But do you say how

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:26.239
<v Speaker 2>do you want to raise your kids? Well?

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting Like obviously you and I had

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the conversation about not having kids. But a conversation I

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>would have loved to have had with you is, Babe,

0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>if we had a baby, how would you discipline them?

0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 1>If we had a little boy and he did something,

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>how would you discipline him? Cause I don't know that

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:43.880
<v Speaker 1>about you. It's very It's a great conversation to have,

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.160
<v Speaker 1>like if you should know is your husband going to

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.000
<v Speaker 1>spank your kids? Do you believe in that? Is that

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>how you were raised? I changed throughout my parenting. I

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>just kind of evolved quickly because what you know is

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 1>how you were raised. I wanted to be my dad.

0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.640
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to emulate my dad. I think he was

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:03.960
<v Speaker 1>a great father, and so I started. I was very

0:31:04.320 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>my way or the highway. I was very old school,

0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:09.520
<v Speaker 1>probably like David Foster, because my dad's about that age,

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:14.160
<v Speaker 1>in his seventies, mid seventies, and so I was tougher.

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 1>It was really tough love, and I was very strict.

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>I remain pretty strict. I think my kids joke about it.

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>They joked about it at our wedding, but and I'm

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.920
<v Speaker 1>proud of that. I think there are very strong lines

0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>you need to set that. I feel like that was

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 1>my job as a parent. Make boundaries, hold those boundaries.

0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Their job is to push those boundaries. And the more

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you give, the more they're going to take. And that's

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>that's their job.

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>So would you parent differently today if you suddenly had

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.680
<v Speaker 2>a kid tomorrow? Would you parent differently than you did

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:48.080
<v Speaker 2>with Josh and Taylor? Have you changed or evolved at all?

0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Or I mean, you made two pretty great kids.

0:31:50.240 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>But I thought about having kids again and how that

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>would be, And here's how what I think I would change.

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.560
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think I know. Here's what I would

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>be different at what I care about. I for sure

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:07.239
<v Speaker 1>would have better perspective on things I care about, like

0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:12.600
<v Speaker 1>youth sports, things that do not matter, you know, you think,

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>like for all the parents out there, I can tell

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>you right now your kids not going to the pros.

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:21.680
<v Speaker 1>Now for point one percent of you that are listening,

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe he is, Maybe little Johnny, little Susie's going.

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 2>You mean about like winning and being good because I

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.280
<v Speaker 2>was going to say, I think youth sports and I'm

0:32:29.280 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 2>not a sports advocate, but teaches you how to be

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>a team player are important.

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>The biggest proponent of youth sports. It is invaluable to

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 1>get your kids involved in youth sports, even when they're

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>not good and they're not going to be pro whatever,

0:32:42.040 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 1>just learning that team aspect and like you said, winning

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.240
<v Speaker 1>and losing, and that is invaluable for sure. But I'm

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>just the you know, I see these parents and I

0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 1>grew up around the living vicariously through your kids, and

0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting them a batting coach and a pitching

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.320
<v Speaker 1>coach at age eight, you know, and it it's just

0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 1>it's so it's so much, and you see these kids

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>actually breaking down physically. Like I was talking to a

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 1>friend of mine about his kids are already getting surgeries

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and having issues and things that just normally we didn't

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>have his kids because we played a season, right, it

0:33:17.640 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>was football season. Play you go to basketball, you play basketball.

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.160
<v Speaker 1>You go to soccer, you play soccer, you go to

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>try You.

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 2>Just now it's travel leagues and clubs.

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Right, you better choose your sport by the age of eight.

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>You better commit if you Okay, so you wouldn't be

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>so into youth sports.

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, no, no, I just I wouldn't. It's not

0:33:33.720 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that I wouldn't be into the youth sports. It's like

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I think I would just have better perspective of what's

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>important and that goes with schooling as well of like

0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 1>not being so neurotic about certain things at school, certain

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>things in sports, certain things and you know what, I

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>would draw Instead of drawing every line in every boundary,

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I would pick my battles a little bit better, have

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:59.800
<v Speaker 1>a little easier going. Aspect of parenting.

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:01.760
<v Speaker 2>If you were going to become a parent tomorrow, would

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:05.360
<v Speaker 2>you like do any new education on parenting? Would you

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 2>read some new books or just say nope, I got this.

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.240
<v Speaker 1>I would love to tell you I would do research.

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:15.799
<v Speaker 1>But the honest answer, if I'm totally being honest, I

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>would just do it. I mean, here's what I would

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>really want to know, because the best part is is

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.879
<v Speaker 1>every generation has the best gadgets in the world. I mean,

0:34:25.080 --> 0:34:29.720
<v Speaker 1>whether it's car seats, strollers, the baby diaper, disappearing things,

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like the things that they invent are phenomenal.

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you could have some new the diaper genies,

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:36.760
<v Speaker 2>new tech on yourself.

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure time around. Maybe they have robots

0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>now that change diapers.

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Now everybody has the cameras they watch

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 2>their kids in the cribs like you can.

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had the WALKI I had the walkie talkie thing,

0:34:47.800 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, so the two way the one way walkie

0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 1>talkie where you could hear the kids crying at night

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Because we you know, they didn't sleep with us.

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.000
<v Speaker 1>We got them into their crib, into their room as

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 1>soon as we could. We weren't the sleep between us

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:02.879
<v Speaker 1>type of parents. But you know, I would I think

0:35:02.880 --> 0:35:05.359
<v Speaker 1>I could jump right back into it. But I would

0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 1>have a lot more patients. I would know what to

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>get worried about, and I think I would have a

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>better idea of what where to pick my battles.

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 2>By the way, what an advantage of being an older

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.439
<v Speaker 2>parent for sure. I mean, I remember when we had

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>doctor Sterling on the Gynecologist for that episode, and she's

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 2>such a big advocate of they're not being a stigma

0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 2>about becoming an older parent. She talked about that, She's like,

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>people think about all the negatives of being an older parent.

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 2>A huge positive is just that you're a calmer person.

0:35:33.120 --> 0:35:36.359
<v Speaker 2>You have more perspective on life, and so that's you can.

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 1>Part so much wisdom to your kid. Yess, you really can.

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>And I thought about that too. I have well, we

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>have friends who have you know, got back in the

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>pool and they've had kids again, and they do say

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>that they're like, it's it's just so much more relaxing

0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>this time around, but you know, early on it's tougher

0:35:50.200 --> 0:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>because I think, you know, God gives you this finite

0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>amount of patience and time where you don't need sleep

0:35:55.160 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>and you don't you know, you can put up with

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 1>those ungodly hours and getting spit up and puked on.

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 2>And we should have Catherine and David on to discuss

0:36:04.080 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 2>like age gap relationships.

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:06.439
<v Speaker 1>I think would be great.

0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm looking to that.

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it'd be fantastic and again, Obviously you

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and I have a fairly large age gap. It's not

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>nearly the size of theirs. But I have no problem

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 1>with that. I mean, they've been together for a very

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 1>long time, clearly love each other. They've been together for.

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 2>A while, a couple of years.

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so I mean it's they seem to have

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>a strong, loving relationship. I would love to talk to

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 1>him about that.

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 2>One more headline or should I say headlines plural? It's

0:36:43.120 --> 0:36:44.720
<v Speaker 2>hard to even keep track of it all, but Harry

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 2>and Meghan the Royals. There is a new book coming out,

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 2>end Game, by a royal reporter, one of the more

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:58.280
<v Speaker 2>famous ones, all about how essentially Harry and William's relationship

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:03.359
<v Speaker 2>is over allegedly about Harry not being close with his

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 2>father anymore, about the way the family imploded, bringing up

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 2>some old stuff too. And the reason I bring up

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 2>all these headlines is why do I still feel so

0:37:13.200 --> 0:37:17.359
<v Speaker 2>passionate about it? I do still get fired up about

0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 2>all this.

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:20.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to not care, and I can say I

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:22.440
<v Speaker 1>don't care, but it, you know what, And now I

0:37:22.520 --> 0:37:25.280
<v Speaker 1>just feel sorry for the whole thing.

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 2>For who. I don't know. That's part of it.

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Is, like I feel sorry for Harry. But I'm also

0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:35.840
<v Speaker 1>annoyed at Harry because he brought a lot of this

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:38.960
<v Speaker 1>on himself. But then he also had a tragic childhood

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 1>and I know he was born in a palace and

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff, but if you really look at his

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>life and boil it down and cliff and like bullet points,

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you're like, damn. And so you know, I'm mad at

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>both of them. I'm disappointed in both of them. If

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I could speak as a father, it's I can't imagine.

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I not even gonna they can't imagine. I know it's

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 1>not what their mom would have wanted. And I know

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 1>how close you are to your sister, and I know

0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.279
<v Speaker 1>what my brother means to me. What a waste of

0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:09.879
<v Speaker 1>the one person in your life that's just like they've

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 1>always got your back.

0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:14.239
<v Speaker 2>I know. I saw something the other day that was like,

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>your parents leave you too soon, You leave your kids

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.920
<v Speaker 2>too soon, the people who are with you your whole life,

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 2>or your siblings. And look, on the one hand, I'm

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 2>not here to advocate. Some people have toxic family members

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes you got to cut them out of your life.

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a family as family person, and at the

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 2>holidays of your dealing with that. I think you don't

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.880
<v Speaker 2>have to engage if your family is a toxic person.

0:38:41.320 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 2>It's so messy at this point, and I'm going to say,

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I think the Royal family's mess and drama is bigger

0:38:49.640 --> 0:38:54.880
<v Speaker 2>than most reality show stuff at this point, Like there's

0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>so much toxicity, and I think maybe the reason we

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 2>still care, I still kind of I do click on

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:04.200
<v Speaker 2>the headlines and read about it and feel passionate is

0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.520
<v Speaker 2>one we can all relate. Like that's what I was

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 2>just talking about, is everybody has toxic family members, has

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 2>had family issues. But two, you know, we really grew

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 2>up with these people. I mean, I grew up knowing

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 2>who William and Harry were. I grew up. They've the

0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Royals have been in my life like longer than presidents

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:27.319
<v Speaker 2>have because they've always been the Royals. They don't have

0:39:27.360 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 2>a term. So it's just wild the point that it's at.

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 2>And I do think I think Harry and Meghan are

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 2>not done in any way. I feel like reading the

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Tea Leaves, there's a headline that allegedly they're looking at

0:39:43.960 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 2>homes in la Meghan just did a variety red carpet.

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean, she just did a red carpet as if

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 2>she's you know, an actress and Suits. That was my

0:39:54.400 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 2>other point. Suits has been like the number one most

0:39:58.040 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 2>been show this year by far, which the show she

0:40:00.680 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 2>was on.

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:05.360
<v Speaker 2>So if I'm putting the pieces together here, I think Meghan,

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 2>I think they've tried some other things that haven't worked.

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:10.879
<v Speaker 2>Their Spotify deal fell apart. They were slammed for that,

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:13.920
<v Speaker 2>their Netflix deal. You know, it was that they didn't

0:40:13.960 --> 0:40:14.920
<v Speaker 2>create enough content.

0:40:15.040 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Disaster.

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 2>It was a disaster for one hundred million dollars they got.

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 2>So I think at this point they've got to go

0:40:19.840 --> 0:40:23.080
<v Speaker 2>back to what works and for Megan, Like, I mean,

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 2>the acting option is there with the recent success of

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Suits in it coming back.

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, The rumor is they're trying to get out of,

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 1>not get out of, but move from Montecito and get

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>more into the thick of things down in La. Look,

0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.919
<v Speaker 1>the idea that they want privacy and want to go off.

0:40:39.120 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they want privacy, but they do not want to

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>be private, And they're two very different things. We love

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:48.359
<v Speaker 1>our privacy, we don't want to be private. They love

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 1>the limelight, they love the red carpets, they love being

0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>in front of the cameras. They you know, not the

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>people that may stalk them and the paparazzi. They would

0:40:57.280 --> 0:41:00.480
<v Speaker 1>like to choose, and I can tell you don't get

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 1>to choose. That's not a choice you get to make

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 1>in this world that you've chosen to live in, and

0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>moving to la is only going to exacerbate that. It

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 1>will be interesting to see the next step they take.

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I feel like there is a headline imminent

0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>of she's going back to suits, she's going back to acting,

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:23.120
<v Speaker 1>they have some other deal, whatever it is. They're just

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they loved being in Monacito and being forgotten.

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.520
<v Speaker 2>No, I exactly. I mean when I saw Megan on

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.640
<v Speaker 2>that Variety red carpet, I'm like, okay, yeah, here it is.

0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, you're on a red carpet. I don't know

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 2>how else to say. You're on a red carpet. A

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 2>red carpet's purpose is purely promotional. I will never forget

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:49.000
<v Speaker 2>that part of the Netflix documentary where she got a

0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:52.080
<v Speaker 2>text message from Beyonce. She like turns staring and she's like,

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 2>I guess you're just texted me Beyonce, And I thought

0:41:57.239 --> 0:42:00.160
<v Speaker 2>this is so weird, Like why are you revealing this?

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Why are you sharing that? Like, to me, all that

0:42:03.000 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 2>says is that you love celebrity and fame because you're

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 2>like this fame, this super famous person texted me, you know,

0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 2>and that that moment said so much to me.

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then the stuff when they were talking about

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>the letters she wrote as a kid, and the tea

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.719
<v Speaker 1>and the way the way she kind of responded to

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>all that, it was just it. I don't know, it

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.360
<v Speaker 1>felt weird, felt a little interesting.

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who's right or who's wrong anymore. I

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>think there's a there's a lot of gray area and

0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:33.440
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people making like I don't think there

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 2>is a clear who is wrong.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I think, like most things, there's enough ag on everybody's

0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:41.319
<v Speaker 1>face and enough blame to go around. I'm sure like

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>one thing happened, and then the next thing, and that

0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>beget the next thing and so and then it just

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.040
<v Speaker 1>spirals out of control. What what I really again, take

0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 1>all of it away, whoever side you're on, you know,

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people are really sour on

0:42:53.120 --> 0:42:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Harry and Meghan. These are also just two human beings

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 1>live in their life and they're trying to take advantage

0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>of opportunities and all that, and I don't begrudge him

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 1>of that, but I just and I don't know how

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting involved, but somehow I want to bring these

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>two brothers together. That's the only thing, the only thing

0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.680
<v Speaker 1>I really truly care about in this whole thing is

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:17.319
<v Speaker 1>that two brothers are not talking. And it seems like

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:19.799
<v Speaker 1>a book that's about to come out will be a

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<v Speaker 1>bombshell and it's this guy that writes really does have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of tea on the royal family. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a lot more juice that comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and probably really bad stories. And one of them I

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<v Speaker 1>heard today was about how Harry was ghosted by William

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what led to him not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to be there at the Queen's side on her deathbed

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<v Speaker 1>to say goodbye. And so a lot of animosity is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be built up, and it's only going to

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<v Speaker 1>hurt more by this book coming out. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>somehow I want to bring these two boys together and

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<v Speaker 1>just get them in a room and somehow bring them

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<v Speaker 1>together as brothers, because deep down I know they want that.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep down, I know if something was really going wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>they would be there to save their each other's lives.

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<v Speaker 1>They're brothers and they had that bond and it's still there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry it's Star Wars esque, but it's still there. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>What's interesting is part of me wants to say I

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<v Speaker 2>would love for William and Kate to do an interview.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they've really never at this point. Harry's written

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<v Speaker 2>a book, he did press tours.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard enough from Harry and Meghan's side.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would love for them to do an interview.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't think they will because they don't have to,

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<v Speaker 2>because now the tide has turned so much against Harry

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<v Speaker 2>and Meghan. I think they've stayed silent and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>held their heads high through this and that it's ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>worked for them and.

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<v Speaker 1>They and look again, not picking sides. William definitely has

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<v Speaker 1>the castle and the monarchy and everything behind them. He's

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<v Speaker 1>got the power of the palace right fully behind him.

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<v Speaker 2>What is really all so sort of I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the right word is. Eerie. I mean, Harry is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of living the life that his mother, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Diana was no longer in the royal family when they

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<v Speaker 2>got divorced, you know, so now Harry is divorced from

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<v Speaker 2>the royal family. And it's just interesting that he's wound

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<v Speaker 2>up there. I've wondered because you know, now the new

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<v Speaker 2>season of The Crown is out where it's the season

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<v Speaker 2>where Diana's death happens. I mean, it's a big season,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've wondered. I'm not watching it, but I was

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<v Speaker 2>texting with a friend about it and saying, like, how

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<v Speaker 2>different would things have been if Diana had had, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>never died. Yeah, would she still be would she still

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<v Speaker 2>go to royal functions because her sons were in the family.

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<v Speaker 2>Would Harry have still left the family? Like would he

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<v Speaker 2>have just followed his mother's footsteps and left or would

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<v Speaker 2>he still be in it? I don't know. It's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think this happens if Diana's alive.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think their relationships fine, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would it would Harry have stayed in the Royal family

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<v Speaker 2>or William?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the interesting thing. Would William be such a proponent

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<v Speaker 1>in such a shill for the Royal family if his

0:46:06.800 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 1>mom is still alive and she's clearly not a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Do the boys remain such a staunch supporter

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<v Speaker 1>of it? That would have been interesting to see, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, who knows, but you know, William is obviously

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<v Speaker 1>this very strong member of the royal family. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's it would be the most recognizable face of the

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<v Speaker 1>Royal family now, even more so than his dad. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you think of the boys totally. Well, we've all

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<v Speaker 1>thought of the queen.

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Were up loving the boys because everybody saw their Diana

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<v Speaker 2>faces with Diana.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know you think of William and Harry

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<v Speaker 1>when you think of the royal family now because the

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<v Speaker 1>Queen is gone, and so it's funny it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>skipped that generation because of Diana.

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<v Speaker 2>And nobody's a big Charles Fanner.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, he's he's the forgotten Royal And this is

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of so unpoppy. He's so easy to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of know, not maybe not dislike, but love. Yeah, he's

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