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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison Lauren Zema coming to you from the home

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Speaker 1: office in beautiful Austin, Texas. I hope everybody had a

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Speaker 1: great holiday week. You had a good Thanksgiving. You have

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Speaker 1: to spend some time with family or better yet, the

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Speaker 1: people you really love. He's joking, I'm joking. No, it's uh.

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Speaker 1: Laura and I often discussed like do you you know,

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Speaker 1: do you have to spend time with family. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into that someday. But we spent Thanksgiving. We talked about

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Speaker 1: I went to your hometown and your childhood home in Elgin, Illinois,

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Speaker 1: not Chicago. It's a suburbs, yes, beautiful, and it was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I loved it. I absolutely had the best time with

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Speaker 1: Donna Zema, your mom, Christina, your sister. Unfortunately, the guys

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Speaker 1: couldn't make it this year. It was me. I was

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Speaker 1: solo with the ladies.

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Speaker 2: You were, which you know, I think you do well

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Speaker 2: in that environment.

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Speaker 1: It is where I thrive the most.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you think that is? Is it all

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Speaker 2: because of the show, because you actually grew up with

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Speaker 2: just a brother. But we've had this discussion before. You

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Speaker 2: like one time we went on a trip to Mexico. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and my little sister. We invited my little sister and

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Speaker 2: her husband. Her husband wasn't able to come, but we

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Speaker 2: told my sister was like, well, I just want to come.

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Speaker 2: So we ended up doing a trip a few days.

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Speaker 2: You and I and then my sister joined. And you

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Speaker 2: just do well when it's you and the ladies. What

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Speaker 2: is that about?

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Speaker 1: I think Number one, I was raised by amazingly strong,

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Speaker 1: beautiful women. True, your mother, my mom, my cousins, and

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Speaker 1: my grandmother and aunts, and so I just I've always

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Speaker 1: had really really strong women present in my life. And

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Speaker 1: so I just you know, keep up or shut up.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously I think the show, the show had

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Speaker 1: to have had some effect over twenty years of being

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Speaker 1: surrounded by thirty women and dealing with all that.

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Speaker 2: Right, because let's well, here's an easy way to tell. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: picture yourself in a situation like this past week. And

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Speaker 2: what happened was my little brother. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: everybody's heard there is this horrible illness sweeping respiratory dogs. Yes,

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Speaker 2: so my little brother has two dogs. His kennel canceled.

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Speaker 2: He had to stay home in California with his dogs,

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Speaker 2: so he couldn't make Thanksgiving. And then my sister's husband

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Speaker 2: was with his parents. So in the situation we had

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Speaker 2: this weekend which was you, me, my mom, and my sister.

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Speaker 2: How would you have done like in your twenties Chris

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Speaker 2: Harrison before ever being on the show versus now, Chris Harrison,

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Speaker 2: how would you have vibed in each you know, before

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Speaker 2: or after the show?

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Speaker 1: Good question. I think I feel I would have feared

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Speaker 1: the same in that I would have done well. I

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Speaker 1: would have been comfortable in this situation. But I think

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Speaker 1: I am with my experience and my age, I am

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Speaker 1: much more comfortable of just letting things happen, letting things

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Speaker 2: My family and every guy your age would be like

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Speaker 2: shirle out with all the women in my family.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, things just don't bother me at all like that

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Speaker 1: in that regard. I don't know if they ever ever

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Speaker 1: I love it. I really just relish the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: be with you. We divided and conquered a couple of

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Speaker 1: times early on in our relationship, and sometimes it's just

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Speaker 1: the way we get through it, and we kind of

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Speaker 1: appease both our families, but I obviously I just love

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Speaker 1: it when we're together and it means so much to me.

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Speaker 1: It meant a lot to me. We didn't fly together

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Speaker 1: to Chicago, but it meant a lot to me just

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Speaker 1: flying into Chicago. Walking through O'Hare Airport, which is of

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Speaker 2: It's so fascinating. Yeah, shout out to O'Hare Airport, famously

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Speaker 2: filmed in home alone when the family is running trying

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Speaker 2: to catch the plane. They always do the best Christmas decoration.

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Speaker 1: It's that one American Airlines terminal where they shot that scene,

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Speaker 1: and that's where we arrive because we fly American in there,

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Speaker 1: and so walking through that is it is iconic and

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Speaker 1: Everybody was awesome, and it was good to go out

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Speaker 1: to your childhood home, which I had never been before,

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Speaker 2: Did it change the way you thought of me at all? No?

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Speaker 1: I think it's cemented of why who you are, why

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Speaker 2: It's hard to explain.

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Speaker 1: You were kind of isolated with your family, and it's

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Speaker 2: It is. So I think people don't because I say

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Speaker 1: Don't know it's from Chicago. That's like me, I'm from Dallas.

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Speaker 1: And when people I'm like, oh, where are you from

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well so, but I grew up on several acres

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Speaker 2: I think it gave me And it was interesting to

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Speaker 2: me reflect on what I got out of that upbringing.

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Speaker 2: I think two major things. One, it made my family

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Speaker 2: it also made me a kind of a weirdo. I'll

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Speaker 2: say three things. I love being a weirdo. We had

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Speaker 2: to read a lot. Again, we did have a lot

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Speaker 2: Using our imaginations. So and then three, I think it

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Speaker 2: just like what my family does and what I wanted

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Speaker 2: this holiday season, It is such a gauge to me

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Speaker 2: on a relationship if you bring someone home and they

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Speaker 2: type of partner person is going to be.

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Speaker 1: Look for stuff to do, don't wait to be asked,

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Speaker 1: was that's how I've I've honestly connected very well with

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Speaker 2: And I am so grateful because Lord knows, I can't

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Speaker 1: And then you get involved in your ways, like you know,

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Speaker 2: Set up the tables, I set up the bar. Thank god,

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Speaker 2: Chris Harrison, the Soux chef is the soux chef my

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Speaker 2: mom always wanted in her family. Let's talk about your

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Speaker 2: pecan pie.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was in charge of my famous mashed

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Speaker 2: Were they ever on the show?

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Speaker 1: Nobody can know. I've never cooked on the show. I

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Speaker 1: never I would have been I would have been a

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Speaker 1: good date. If I had cooked for them, that would

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go on a quick we need a

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Speaker 2: or film or do as a date? That never happened?

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Speaker 2: Why did they never do that?

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Speaker 1: I pitched this idea for years when the kids were younger,

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Speaker 1: a fun, sexy movie night. Nope, ding dong, here's my kids. Guys,

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Speaker 2: Brilliant.

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Speaker 1: And I would have told my kids because they were

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Speaker 1: olding a and like, yeah, be a holy tare just

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Speaker 1: like raise hell today. But I thought that would have

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Speaker 1: been a great date because that's real life, Like now,

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Speaker 1: you know even if they were super young, because you know,

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Speaker 1: my kids were born while I was doing the show.

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Speaker 1: Josh was born six weeks before I got hired, but

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Speaker 1: been diaper changing age, like you have to watch babies.

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Speaker 2: Such a good idea, and it would have been safe

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Speaker 2: because sometimes if you bring in like outside unknown kids,

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Speaker 2: that can be a little that's a lot on a set.

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Speaker 1: Or for but no union issues. These are my kids,

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Speaker 1: judge a lot by that. Yes, see how they are

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Speaker 2: What was the reason why they never did that, I

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Speaker 1: They don't give Probably because he was my idea. They

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Speaker 2: I wish people sometimes okay, I don't want to get

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Speaker 2: I I the pie was great. Everybody loved it. His

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Speaker 1: For sure. The two days I spent in the kitchen

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Speaker 1: It changed my life. The Portillo's chocolate cake changed my life.

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Speaker 2: beautiful thing about it is we don't have sadness when

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Speaker 2: we're there though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it was definitely a joyful celebration.

437
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Speaker 2: No, we kind of did an early birthday dinner for me,

438
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Speaker 2: and we've had a lot of family celebrations there over

439
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Speaker 2: the years. And as I think about it, that's really

440
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Speaker 2: pretty beautiful that one place can be all those things,

441
00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 2: you know, it's it can be a place of reflection

442
00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 2: and tears but joy and Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And my favorite thing about the Zema ladies. When we

444
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Speaker 1: go to restaurants, I really don't order. I just sit

445
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Speaker 1: there they order. We also went to an Italian place

446
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 1: that was really good and I just sit. I know

447
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: the food's going to come my way and the zema

448
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 1: don't get in the way. Just And we also went

449
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Speaker 1: to the local Orange Theory twice. Yes, I went with

450
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Speaker 1: your mom, your sister and yourself. There was all four

451
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Speaker 1: of us. We lined up on the treadmills. Treadmill one

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Speaker 1: through four.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Misty, she's missed the instructor in Bartlett, Illinois.

454
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 1: Bartlett, Illinois that we went to the Bartlet Orange Theory twice.

455
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Speaker 2: But what again? Is great? And I guess I don't.

456
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Speaker 2: I love that you're listening everything and getting everyone shout out.

457
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Speaker 2: But what it makes me think is when you visit

458
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 2: someone's family, jump in, do what they do? Like a

459
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 2: big red flag to me is not only does someone

460
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Speaker 2: not pitch in and help, but if you go to

461
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Speaker 2: somebody's house, do you make it about you? If you

462
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Speaker 2: go out to dinner with somebody and their people and

463
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Speaker 2: they like to order and share, are you the well? No,

464
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Speaker 2: I just like to get my own thing. Like when

465
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: you're on somebody else's turf, jump in, live life the

466
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Speaker 2: way they lived. Experience that you're kind of seeing their

467
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Speaker 2: family culture, their vibe. Maybe you don't have to do

468
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Speaker 2: it forever, but you did a really great job of

469
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Speaker 2: doing that the first time. And it's not something I

470
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Speaker 2: asked you to do, it's just who you are.

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Speaker 1: Well. I loved it, and it was great to see

472
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Speaker 1: a little piece of your history in your origin story.

473
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Speaker 1: And it was great to go to Elgin, Illinois in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the headline.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump in with something that happened over Thanksgiving weekend.

476
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Speaker 2: You were very excited about it. Dolly Partons. Was it

477
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Speaker 2: a halftime performance at the Dallas Cowboys game but started

478
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Speaker 2: some controversy. I would never think that Dolly Parton would

479
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: come a controversy. Everybody loves her. But she wore a

480
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Speaker 2: Dallas cheer cheerleaders uniform at seventy seven years old. Yes,

481
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Speaker 2: and some people took issue with.

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Speaker 1: It a couple of First of all, the Dallas Cowboys

483
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Speaker 1: playing on Thanksgiving is a tradition. They always play on

484
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving days, kind of like the Detroit Lions, although Detroit

485
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: always loses unfortunately, and the Cowboys always win. They didn't

486
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Speaker 1: play each other, but that game is a tradition. Watching

487
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Speaker 1: it on Thanksgiving as a family tradition of mine, and

488
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Speaker 1: I was very thankful that you guys didn't mind that

489
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Speaker 1: I had the game on at the Zema house. So

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Speaker 1: we watched the Cowboy game and two things. Number one,

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Speaker 1: Jack Harlowe performed at a prior game earlier that day

492
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Speaker 1: and had a disastrous performance. It was unbelievably panned, critically destroyed.

493
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Speaker 1: It was really weird. Nobody's really sure if he was

494
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Speaker 1: sabotaged by his manager. What happened. It was terrible. So

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Speaker 1: then it's always a big tradition with the Salvation Army

496
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Speaker 1: that the Cowboys have a Salvation Army halftime show on

497
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day. It kind of kicks off their Giving and

498
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Speaker 1: it's a big deal who the performer is. This year

499
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Speaker 1: was the legend the icon Dolly parton. Everybody was pretty

500
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Speaker 1: excited about that. Just in general, it's Texas, It's Dolly.

501
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 1: Things are bigger in Texas, if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And Dolly comes out and she is in the most

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Speaker 1: iconic uniform, maybe next to the Cowboys themselves. The Dallas

504
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Speaker 1: Cowboys cheerleaders, as we say, and as they say, often imitated,

505
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Speaker 1: never equalled. Well, I think they were imitated and equalled

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Speaker 1: by Dolly Parton because guys, she crushed it. And I

507
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Speaker 1: don't know why anybody thinks that's controversial. I don't know

508
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Speaker 1: why anybody has a problem with it, because she is

509
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Speaker 1: a legend, and the thing, the legend of Dolly has

510
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: always been a woman who forged her own path, the

511
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Speaker 1: woman who broke through every glass ceiling, who created this

512
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Speaker 1: industry on her own, a female artist and a very

513
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Speaker 1: male driven world, especially when she broke in. I mean

514
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Speaker 1: think of her as kind of the Barbara Walters of

515
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: country music. She was doing this at a time when

516
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Speaker 1: it was really not all that welcomed and admired, and

517
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: she did it. And so for her to come out

518
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 1: and what break another mold, you got a problem with it.

519
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: She is a badass, legendary icon, and she just once

520
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: again proved why she is a legend.

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Speaker 2: I agree with everything you just said. I mean, some

522
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Speaker 2: people were saying, you know, and I hate when media

523
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 2: does this, when it's like grab one tweet and you know,

524
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Speaker 2: act like that's the I think overall people didn't have

525
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Speaker 2: an issue with it, you know, I guess I saw

526
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Speaker 2: it was like the one tweet was like act your

527
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Speaker 2: age I mean, please, I think.

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Speaker 1: What's acting seventy seven? Do you want to walk out

529
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Speaker 1: and over?

530
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Speaker 2: What that mentality says to me is like a judgment

531
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Speaker 2: on women. I mean, so what if that was a

532
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Speaker 2: So if that's a woman in it's ages, and if

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Speaker 2: that's a woman who's twenty five wearing that, then it's okay.

534
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Speaker 1: Yeah you think she's hotter? Is that better for right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Dolly Carden's beautiful. She looks great, like you said,

536
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Speaker 2: I mean, she has always beaten march to the beat

537
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Speaker 2: of her own drum, and.

538
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Speaker 1: That's what makes her great.

539
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Speaker 2: And she's changed the world by doing that. So thank

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Speaker 2: you for changing the world in many ways, Dolly.

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Speaker 1: And you know, definitely paved you know, paved the path

542
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Speaker 1: for whether it's Kelly Clarkson or know any all the

543
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,239
Speaker 1: women that came through in the nineties, you name it

544
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Speaker 1: that like, she is the one who paved that path.

545
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Speaker 1: And she was on the show. Dolly was on Bachelor

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Speaker 1: I think it was Emily Maynard season. She was on.

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Speaker 1: I think we went to Dolly World. Good guest, Yeah,

548
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Speaker 1: and yeah it was a good guest. She was awesome.

549
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: She's just salt of the earth, beautiful woman. Love her,

550
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Speaker 1: and I'm glad that she really blew it up on

551
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day for my beloved Dallas Cowboys who won and

552
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Speaker 1: made it just that much sweeter, made the pie taste

553
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Speaker 1: that much better on Thanksgiving.

554
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Speaker 2: Here's a comparison I would give if a seventy five

555
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: year old I don't know actor sports announcer say that, How.

556
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: About Mick Jagger, he's one hundred and eight.

557
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: Okay, if he came out in a Dallas Cowboys football

558
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 2: uniform because they were performing, would anyone have said, Mick

559
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 2: actor age? Oh no, they think it was.

560
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Speaker 1: Funny about So when Creed came out years ago and

561
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Speaker 1: they were in Dallas Cowboy uniforms.

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Speaker 2: I didn't remember.

563
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: I don't remember the inspirational Creed moment.

564
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Speaker 2: Wow Creed.

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Speaker 1: By the way. A little media note, Forty one point

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Speaker 1: four million people watched the Dallas Cowboys versus the Washington

567
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Speaker 1: Commander's football game. Obviously a captive audience. That is why

568
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Speaker 1: Jerry always makes sure the Dallas Cowboys play on Thanksgiving Day.

569
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Speaker 1: But when you think TV is dead, when you think

570
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Speaker 1: things have gone by the wayside, forty one million people.

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Speaker 1: That was the third largest viewing audience of a regular

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Speaker 1: season football game in the history of the NFL. That's

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Speaker 1: pretty crazy, all right.

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Speaker 2: Another headline Catherine McPhee and David Foster talking about the

575
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Speaker 2: way that they discipline their two year old son. So

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Speaker 2: they are acknowledging and saying that they have very different

577
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Speaker 2: parenting styles. In fact, Catherine says, quote, his era of

578
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Speaker 2: parenting is different. Now I'm giving their ages here because

579
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Speaker 2: that's what they're talking about. Katherin mcpheas thirty nine. Her husband,

580
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Speaker 2: David Foster is seventy four.

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Speaker 1: You could be a Dallas cowboy cheerleader outfit to be perfect, right,

582
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Speaker 1: He's right in that age group.

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Speaker 2: So they have their two year old son, and I

584
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: guess David is kind of wanting to discipline and Catherine

585
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: doesn't think that they're really ready to be in that

586
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: disciplinary place yet. And she said his era of parenting

587
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: is different. So the questionnaire is, you know, how do

588
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Speaker 2: you handle that as a couple, How do you handle

589
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: it if you have such different parenting styles In this case,

590
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Speaker 2: it's about the way you were raised, your era that

591
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: you came up in.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, no indictment on their age difference whatever,

593
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Speaker 1: But basically what we're talking about is the way I

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Speaker 1: raise my kids in the way my parents because he

595
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Speaker 1: is the same age as my parents.

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Speaker 2: Well he has like fully grown adult children, so he's

597
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: already done the parenting thing once through its n.

598
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Speaker 1: But this is a it's a generation gap. It is

599
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: a difference in how generations raise kids. He I mean,

600
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Speaker 1: so seventy four, So that's back what in the fifties,

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Speaker 1: you know, when he was born, and so he was

602
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Speaker 1: raising kids in the sixties and seventies, maybe the eighties,

603
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: and so that was a very very different time in

604
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 1: the world. And so I get it.

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Speaker 2: He actually has two daughters in their fifties.

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Speaker 1: So his daughters are older than me.

607
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: Well, he has daughters in their fifties, their forties, and

608
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: a daughter in her thirties.

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Speaker 1: I will say he's done it. He's been there, actually

610
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: parented through a lot of aeras. He has been through

611
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot of areas, he's been through the trenches. So

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00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: I you know, look, it's hard to deny when it

613
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: has worked before. But I'm sure I'm curious what the

614
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: big differences are. If it's like I spank, he very

615
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: well may have spanked his kids, you know, back in

616
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Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties and nineties, that's well, spank their kids.

617
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of frowned upon now, and

618
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: so maybe that is her thing, or maybe the way

619
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: he talks and he's tough love and a little more

620
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: stern in my way or the highway, whereas I'm guessing

621
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Speaker 1: maybe she's a more reasonable. You know, there are those

622
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: parents who are like, we don't ever say no to

623
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: our kids. We encourage, we, you know, talk to them,

624
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: and so I'm guessing those are the usually the one.

625
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 2: Of the comments she says in this article is like,

626
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: she's not someone who wants to say that's bad, Like,

627
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: don't do that, that's bad. You know. I do think

628
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: parentings evolved in a lot of good ways over the

629
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: years too, you know, with new research and what works

630
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: with kids and what doesn't. And I mean, look, we

631
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: all have childhood trauma where our parents raised us. So

632
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 2: to me, what's important because whether it's an age gap

633
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: or where you're from, a lot of people are going

634
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: to have had different upbringings and that's going to create

635
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: different parenting styles. A friend of mine, who is so

636
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: insane with her husband, told me this simple thing. She said,

637
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Speaker 2: We talked a lot about how we wanted to parent

638
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: before we became parents, And I thought, I don't know

639
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: if that's something a lot of people do.

640
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: No, I think you're like, well, we're parents, now let's

641
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Speaker 1: start parenting.

642
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: You're right now, Well, I think you fall in love

643
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: and you talk about are we going to get married?

644
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: Or we do we work together?

645
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: But when you're great conversation to have.

646
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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you have the conversation Maybe you say do

647
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: we want to have kids? But do you say how

648
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 2: do you want to raise your kids? Well?

649
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting Like obviously you and I had

650
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: the conversation about not having kids. But a conversation I

651
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: would have loved to have had with you is, Babe,

652
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: if we had a baby, how would you discipline them?

653
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: If we had a little boy and he did something,

654
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: how would you discipline him? Cause I don't know that

655
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: about you. It's very It's a great conversation to have,

656
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: like if you should know is your husband going to

657
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: spank your kids? Do you believe in that? Is that

658
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: how you were raised? I changed throughout my parenting. I

659
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: just kind of evolved quickly because what you know is

660
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: how you were raised. I wanted to be my dad.

661
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to emulate my dad. I think he was

662
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: a great father, and so I started. I was very

663
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: my way or the highway. I was very old school,

664
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: probably like David Foster, because my dad's about that age,

665
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: in his seventies, mid seventies, and so I was tougher.

666
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: It was really tough love, and I was very strict.

667
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: I remain pretty strict. I think my kids joke about it.

668
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: They joked about it at our wedding, but and I'm

669
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: proud of that. I think there are very strong lines

670
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: you need to set that. I feel like that was

671
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: my job as a parent. Make boundaries, hold those boundaries.

672
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: Their job is to push those boundaries. And the more

673
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: you give, the more they're going to take. And that's

674
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: that's their job.

675
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: So would you parent differently today if you suddenly had

676
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 2: a kid tomorrow? Would you parent differently than you did

677
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: with Josh and Taylor? Have you changed or evolved at all?

678
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: Or I mean, you made two pretty great kids.

679
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: But I thought about having kids again and how that

680
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 1: would be, And here's how what I think I would change.

681
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: And I don't think I know. Here's what I would

682
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: be different at what I care about. I for sure

683
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,239
Speaker 1: would have better perspective on things I care about, like

684
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: youth sports, things that do not matter, you know, you think,

685
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: like for all the parents out there, I can tell

686
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: you right now your kids not going to the pros.

687
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: Now for point one percent of you that are listening,

688
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: maybe he is, Maybe little Johnny, little Susie's going.

689
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: You mean about like winning and being good because I

690
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: was going to say, I think youth sports and I'm

691
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: not a sports advocate, but teaches you how to be

692
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 2: a team player are important.

693
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: The biggest proponent of youth sports. It is invaluable to

694
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: get your kids involved in youth sports, even when they're

695
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: not good and they're not going to be pro whatever,

696
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: just learning that team aspect and like you said, winning

697
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: and losing, and that is invaluable for sure. But I'm

698
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: just the you know, I see these parents and I

699
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: grew up around the living vicariously through your kids, and

700
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, getting them a batting coach and a pitching

701
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: coach at age eight, you know, and it it's just

702
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: it's so it's so much, and you see these kids

703
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: actually breaking down physically. Like I was talking to a

704
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: friend of mine about his kids are already getting surgeries

705
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: and having issues and things that just normally we didn't

706
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: have his kids because we played a season, right, it

707
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: was football season. Play you go to basketball, you play basketball.

708
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: You go to soccer, you play soccer, you go to

709
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: try You.

710
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: Just now it's travel leagues and clubs.

711
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: Right, you better choose your sport by the age of eight.

712
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: You better commit if you Okay, so you wouldn't be

713
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: so into youth sports.

714
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: Well, no, no, no, I just I wouldn't. It's not

715
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't be into the youth sports. It's like

716
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: I think I would just have better perspective of what's

717
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: important and that goes with schooling as well of like

718
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: not being so neurotic about certain things at school, certain

719
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: things in sports, certain things and you know what, I

720
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: would draw Instead of drawing every line in every boundary,

721
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: I would pick my battles a little bit better, have

722
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: a little easier going. Aspect of parenting.

723
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: If you were going to become a parent tomorrow, would

724
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: you like do any new education on parenting? Would you

725
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: read some new books or just say nope, I got this.

726
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: I would love to tell you I would do research.

727
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: But the honest answer, if I'm totally being honest, I

728
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: would just do it. I mean, here's what I would

729
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: really want to know, because the best part is is

730
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: every generation has the best gadgets in the world. I mean,

731
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 1: whether it's car seats, strollers, the baby diaper, disappearing things,

732
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: and you know, like the things that they invent are phenomenal.

733
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you could have some new the diaper genies,

734
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 2: new tech on yourself.

735
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure time around. Maybe they have robots

736
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: now that change diapers.

737
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: I don't know. Now everybody has the cameras they watch

738
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: their kids in the cribs like you can.

739
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had the WALKI I had the walkie talkie thing,

740
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, so the two way the one way walkie

741
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: talkie where you could hear the kids crying at night

742
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. Because we you know, they didn't sleep with us.

743
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: We got them into their crib, into their room as

744
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: soon as we could. We weren't the sleep between us

745
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: type of parents. But you know, I would I think

746
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 1: I could jump right back into it. But I would

747
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: have a lot more patients. I would know what to

748
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: get worried about, and I think I would have a

749
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: better idea of what where to pick my battles.

750
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: By the way, what an advantage of being an older

751
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: parent for sure. I mean, I remember when we had

752
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: doctor Sterling on the Gynecologist for that episode, and she's

753
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: such a big advocate of they're not being a stigma

754
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: about becoming an older parent. She talked about that, She's like,

755
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: people think about all the negatives of being an older parent.

756
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 2: A huge positive is just that you're a calmer person.

757
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: You have more perspective on life, and so that's you can.

758
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: Part so much wisdom to your kid. Yess, you really can.

759
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: And I thought about that too. I have well, we

760
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: have friends who have you know, got back in the

761
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: pool and they've had kids again, and they do say

762
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: that they're like, it's it's just so much more relaxing

763
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: this time around, but you know, early on it's tougher

764
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: because I think, you know, God gives you this finite

765
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: amount of patience and time where you don't need sleep

766
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: and you don't you know, you can put up with

767
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: those ungodly hours and getting spit up and puked on.

768
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: And we should have Catherine and David on to discuss

769
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: like age gap relationships.

770
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 1: I think would be great.

771
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: I'm looking to that.

772
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it'd be fantastic and again, Obviously you

773
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: and I have a fairly large age gap. It's not

774
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: nearly the size of theirs. But I have no problem

775
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, they've been together for a very

776
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: long time, clearly love each other. They've been together for.

777
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 2: A while, a couple of years.

778
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I mean it's they seem to have

779
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: a strong, loving relationship. I would love to talk to

780
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: him about that.

781
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: One more headline or should I say headlines plural? It's

782
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: hard to even keep track of it all, but Harry

783
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 2: and Meghan the Royals. There is a new book coming out,

784
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: end Game, by a royal reporter, one of the more

785
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: famous ones, all about how essentially Harry and William's relationship

786
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 2: is over allegedly about Harry not being close with his

787
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: father anymore, about the way the family imploded, bringing up

788
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: some old stuff too. And the reason I bring up

789
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: all these headlines is why do I still feel so

790
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: passionate about it? I do still get fired up about

791
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: all this.

792
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: I want to not care, and I can say I

793
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: don't care, but it, you know what, And now I

794
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: just feel sorry for the whole thing.

795
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: For who. I don't know. That's part of it.

796
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: Is, like I feel sorry for Harry. But I'm also

797
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: annoyed at Harry because he brought a lot of this

798
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: on himself. But then he also had a tragic childhood

799
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: and I know he was born in a palace and

800
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but if you really look at his

801
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: life and boil it down and cliff and like bullet points,

802
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: you're like, damn. And so you know, I'm mad at

803
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: both of them. I'm disappointed in both of them. If

804
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: I could speak as a father, it's I can't imagine.

805
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: I not even gonna they can't imagine. I know it's

806
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: not what their mom would have wanted. And I know

807
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: how close you are to your sister, and I know

808
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: what my brother means to me. What a waste of

809
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 1: the one person in your life that's just like they've

810
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 1: always got your back.

811
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 2: I know. I saw something the other day that was like,

812
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: your parents leave you too soon, You leave your kids

813
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: too soon, the people who are with you your whole life,

814
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: or your siblings. And look, on the one hand, I'm

815
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: not here to advocate. Some people have toxic family members

816
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: and sometimes you got to cut them out of your life.

817
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: I'm not a family as family person, and at the

818
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: holidays of your dealing with that. I think you don't

819
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: have to engage if your family is a toxic person.

820
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 2: It's so messy at this point, and I'm going to say,

821
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: I think the Royal family's mess and drama is bigger

822
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: than most reality show stuff at this point, Like there's

823
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: so much toxicity, and I think maybe the reason we

824
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: still care, I still kind of I do click on

825
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: the headlines and read about it and feel passionate is

826
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: one we can all relate. Like that's what I was

827
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: just talking about, is everybody has toxic family members, has

828
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: had family issues. But two, you know, we really grew

829
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: up with these people. I mean, I grew up knowing

830
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 2: who William and Harry were. I grew up. They've the

831
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 2: Royals have been in my life like longer than presidents

832
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: have because they've always been the Royals. They don't have

833
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: a term. So it's just wild the point that it's at.

834
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: And I do think I think Harry and Meghan are

835
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: not done in any way. I feel like reading the

836
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Tea Leaves, there's a headline that allegedly they're looking at

837
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: homes in la Meghan just did a variety red carpet.

838
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 2: I mean, she just did a red carpet as if

839
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: she's you know, an actress and Suits. That was my

840
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: other point. Suits has been like the number one most

841
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: been show this year by far, which the show she

842
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: was on.

843
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

844
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 2: So if I'm putting the pieces together here, I think Meghan,

845
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: I think they've tried some other things that haven't worked.

846
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 2: Their Spotify deal fell apart. They were slammed for that,

847
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: their Netflix deal. You know, it was that they didn't

848
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: create enough content.

849
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: Disaster.

850
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: It was a disaster for one hundred million dollars they got.

851
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: So I think at this point they've got to go

852
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: back to what works and for Megan, Like, I mean,

853
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 2: the acting option is there with the recent success of

854
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 2: Suits in it coming back.

855
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, The rumor is they're trying to get out of,

856
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: not get out of, but move from Montecito and get

857
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: more into the thick of things down in La. Look,

858
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: the idea that they want privacy and want to go off.

859
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: Maybe they want privacy, but they do not want to

860
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: be private, And they're two very different things. We love

861
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: our privacy, we don't want to be private. They love

862
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: the limelight, they love the red carpets, they love being

863
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: in front of the cameras. They you know, not the

864
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: people that may stalk them and the paparazzi. They would

865
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: like to choose, and I can tell you don't get

866
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: to choose. That's not a choice you get to make

867
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: in this world that you've chosen to live in, and

868
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: moving to la is only going to exacerbate that. It

869
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see the next step they take.

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Speaker 1: I agree. I feel like there is a headline imminent

871
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: of she's going back to suits, she's going back to acting,

872
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: they have some other deal, whatever it is. They're just

873
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they loved being in Monacito and being forgotten.

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00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: No, I exactly. I mean when I saw Megan on

875
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: that Variety red carpet, I'm like, okay, yeah, here it is.

876
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: You know, you're on a red carpet. I don't know

877
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: how else to say. You're on a red carpet. A

878
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: red carpet's purpose is purely promotional. I will never forget

879
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 2: that part of the Netflix documentary where she got a

880
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: text message from Beyonce. She like turns staring and she's like,

881
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 2: I guess you're just texted me Beyonce, And I thought

882
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: this is so weird, Like why are you revealing this?

883
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: Why are you sharing that? Like, to me, all that

884
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: says is that you love celebrity and fame because you're

885
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: like this fame, this super famous person texted me, you know,

886
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: and that that moment said so much to me.

887
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then the stuff when they were talking about

888
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: the letters she wrote as a kid, and the tea

889
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: and the way the way she kind of responded to

890
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: all that, it was just it. I don't know, it

891
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 1: felt weird, felt a little interesting.

892
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: I don't know who's right or who's wrong anymore. I

893
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: think there's a there's a lot of gray area and

894
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 2: a lot of people making like I don't think there

895
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 2: is a clear who is wrong.

896
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: I think, like most things, there's enough ag on everybody's

897
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: face and enough blame to go around. I'm sure like

898
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: one thing happened, and then the next thing, and that

899
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: beget the next thing and so and then it just

900
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: spirals out of control. What what I really again, take

901
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: all of it away, whoever side you're on, you know,

902
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are really sour on

903
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: Harry and Meghan. These are also just two human beings

904
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: live in their life and they're trying to take advantage

905
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: of opportunities and all that, and I don't begrudge him

906
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: of that, but I just and I don't know how

907
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: I'm getting involved, but somehow I want to bring these

908
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: two brothers together. That's the only thing, the only thing

909
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: I really truly care about in this whole thing is

910
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: that two brothers are not talking. And it seems like

911
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: a book that's about to come out will be a

912
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: bombshell and it's this guy that writes really does have

913
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: a lot of tea on the royal family. So there's

914
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: going to be a lot more juice that comes out

915
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: and probably really bad stories. And one of them I

916
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: heard today was about how Harry was ghosted by William

917
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: and that is what led to him not being able

918
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: to be there at the Queen's side on her deathbed

919
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: to say goodbye. And so a lot of animosity is

920
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: going to be built up, and it's only going to

921
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: hurt more by this book coming out. But I just

922
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: somehow I want to bring these two boys together and

923
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: just get them in a room and somehow bring them

924
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: together as brothers, because deep down I know they want that.

925
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: Deep down, I know if something was really going wrong,

926
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: they would be there to save their each other's lives.

927
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: They're brothers and they had that bond and it's still there.

928
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry it's Star Wars esque, but it's still there. Well.

929
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 2: What's interesting is part of me wants to say I

930
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 2: would love for William and Kate to do an interview.

931
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 2: I mean, they've really never at this point. Harry's written

932
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 2: a book, he did press tours.

933
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: I've heard enough from Harry and Meghan's side.

934
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: But I would love for them to do an interview.

935
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: But I don't think they will because they don't have to,

936
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: because now the tide has turned so much against Harry

937
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: and Meghan. I think they've stayed silent and kind of

938
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: held their heads high through this and that it's ultimately

939
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: worked for them and.

940
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: They and look again, not picking sides. William definitely has

941
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: the castle and the monarchy and everything behind them. He's

942
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: got the power of the palace right fully behind him.

943
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 2: What is really all so sort of I don't know

944
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: what the right word is. Eerie. I mean, Harry is

945
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: kind of living the life that his mother, I mean,

946
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: Diana was no longer in the royal family when they

947
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: got divorced, you know, so now Harry is divorced from

948
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 2: the royal family. And it's just interesting that he's wound

949
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: up there. I've wondered because you know, now the new

950
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: season of The Crown is out where it's the season

951
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: where Diana's death happens. I mean, it's a big season,

952
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 2: and I've wondered. I'm not watching it, but I was

953
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 2: texting with a friend about it and saying, like, how

954
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: different would things have been if Diana had had, you know,

955
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: never died. Yeah, would she still be would she still

956
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: go to royal functions because her sons were in the family.

957
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: Would Harry have still left the family? Like would he

958
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: have just followed his mother's footsteps and left or would

959
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: he still be in it? I don't know. It's very interesting.

960
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: I don't think this happens if Diana's alive.

961
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think their relationships fine, but I

962
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: would it would Harry have stayed in the Royal family

963
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: or William?

964
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: That's the interesting thing. Would William be such a proponent

965
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: in such a shill for the Royal family if his

966
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: mom is still alive and she's clearly not a part

967
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: of it. Do the boys remain such a staunch supporter

968
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: of it? That would have been interesting to see, you know,

969
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows, but you know, William is obviously

970
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: this very strong member of the royal family. I think

971
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: he's it would be the most recognizable face of the

972
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Royal family now, even more so than his dad. I mean,

973
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: it's you think of the boys totally. Well, we've all

974
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: thought of the queen.

975
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: Were up loving the boys because everybody saw their Diana

976
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 2: faces with Diana.

977
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you think of William and Harry

978
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: when you think of the royal family now because the

979
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: Queen is gone, and so it's funny it's kind of

980
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: skipped that generation because of Diana.

981
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: And nobody's a big Charles Fanner.

982
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: No, no, he's he's the forgotten Royal And this is

983
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: just kind of so unpoppy. He's so easy to kind

984
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: of know, not maybe not dislike, but love. Yeah, he's

985
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: not easy to like. Thank you guys for joining us,

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