1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. A third hour of Clay in Buck 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: starts right now. Clay will be back tomorrow from Italy, everybody, 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: so he's going to have some stories for us about 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: everything that you get over there, and we're looking forward 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: to having him back in action here because it could 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: be a very very busy day in the news cycle 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: and quite a day for America depending on what ends 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: up happening. You have articles being written by places like 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: The New York Times on just how authorities are preparing 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: for an unprecedented arrest of an ex president. This may 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: well happen, an arrest of an ex president that a 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: Democrat prosecutor, in this case, Alvin Bragg of the Manhattan 14 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: Disattorney's Office, would be pursuing for failure to disclose a 15 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: hush money payment to a porn star as a campaign expense. 16 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: We are really having this conversation right now as a country. 17 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: This is real, folks, We're really having this discussion because 18 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: of that. Now. I know that the pointing out of 19 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: hypocrisy is something that we do and I often tell 20 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: you the hypocrisy is the point. But there are also 21 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: limits to it where even I just have to say, 22 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: you have got to be kidding me, all right, this 23 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: is not a situation that any reasonable person would think requires. 24 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: And think about this. If Donald Trump were, you know, 25 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: just some average guy off the street, and they told 26 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: me they were going to bring this prosecution, if he 27 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: had been running for you know, dog catcher, that's not 28 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: really good job anymore. People talk about that, right, There's 29 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: not are there like local dogcatcher elections or whatever. I 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: don't think that's you know, local municipal water chairman or something, 31 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: whatever it is. If you were running for some low level, 32 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: low level office and they tried to bring a charge 33 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: like this, I'd be like, come on, guys, okay, you know, 34 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: if you really want to be tough, make them pay 35 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: a fine or something, you know, make them pay some fine. 36 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: And oh gosh, no, what's he gonna do now. But 37 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: that's not the point of this at all. This has 38 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: nothing to do with justice, and everybody knows it. And 39 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: that's the point. This is a political hit, pure and simple. 40 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: We all see it. And it's supposed to be a 41 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: political hit. It's supposed to be. You don't get to 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: have this man run again. Or be president again because 43 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: we the left, the Democrats, the commies say so, and 44 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna use the law, We're gonna use the state. 45 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: We're going to use whatever is at our disposal, whatever 46 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: power we can bring to bear here to that end. 47 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: This is it's amazing. They used to use the term 48 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: unprecedented all the time. Do you remember this when whenever 49 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: they were reporting on Trump when he was in office, 50 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: there would be uh, they would say, in an unprecedented move, 51 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: donald Trump had two scoops of ice cream. Well, the 52 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: other people around him had one scoop. Unprecedented. They used 53 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: that term. This though, the indictment of a former president 54 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: on the most look, if Donald Trump was you know, 55 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: taking I don't you know if he was I'm trying 56 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: to think of what it wouldn't even be a crime 57 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: that would be, you know, worthy of a prosecution of 58 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: a former president. If he had been involved in a 59 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: vehicular manslaughter, right, which should be that would be the 60 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: Secret Service when he was president. But you get what 61 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, right, would be the Secret Service agent's fault. 62 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: I would think. But if you were involved in something 63 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: really serious and we all agree, and there was a 64 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: victim and then there was a real problem and bad 65 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: things had happened. Remember this is going all the way 66 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: back the twenty and by the way, this is before 67 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: he was even president. So yeah, if Donald Trump had 68 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: run somebody over in his car while running for president 69 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, and you know, seriously injured, dumber, or 70 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: even killed somebody, then you'd be sitting here saying, oh, okay, well, 71 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: you know, no one's above the law, and you got 72 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: to have this real discussion. There would still be though, 73 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: if there was any doubt as to whether or not 74 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: he was guilty, people saying, well, hold on a second, 75 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: is this a political hit because he wasn't charged for 76 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 1: this before and nobody nobody brought this for years and years, 77 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: So what exactly happened here? Right? But the point you're 78 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: just being it's if it's a serious crime, there would 79 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: be a debate over the propriety of bringing it, bringing 80 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: the charge against a former president who is actively running 81 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: for president again. Right, So this goes to it's not 82 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: just what feels right for the soul of the country. 83 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: This is what interferes in, yes, our democracy, our republic. 84 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: This is clear interference. But this is the part of 85 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: it that on the most flimsy pretext imaginable, they would 86 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: be charging a former president who's a likely future president 87 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: with a non crime and arresting him and making a 88 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: show of it. Now, what will this do politically? What 89 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: would this do to Trump's chances of winning? That I 90 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 1: think is that becomes an interesting conversation, meaning I don't 91 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody really knows. By the way I 92 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: met I had mentioned DeSantis weighing in on this because 93 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: people are criticizing him. Over the weekend, I saw this 94 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of criticism social media, at 95 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: least from generally from people who are very favorable to Trump, 96 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: and there was talk of Trump saying get out in 97 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: the streets and protest this. Zendis said, the Manhattan disa 98 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: attorney is a Soros funded prosecutor, and so he, like 99 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: other Soros funded prosecutors, weaponize their office to impose a 100 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: political agenda on society at the expense of the rule 101 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: of law and public safety. And then he said, I 102 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: don't know what goes into paying hush money to a 103 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair. 104 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: I just can't speak to that. But what I can 105 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: speak to is that if you have a prosecutor who 106 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: is ignoring crimes happening every single day in his jurisdiction 107 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: and he chooses to go back many many years trying 108 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: to use something about porn star hush money payments, that's 109 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: an example of pursuing a political agenda and weaponizing the office. 110 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: And I think that's fundamentally wrong. The real victims are 111 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: ordinary New Yorkers because Bragg is trying to virtue signal 112 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: for is base. Okay, so that was what that was 113 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: what Desanta said about this over um over the weekend, 114 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: and you have a lot of political analysis ready for this, 115 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: because remember maybe that maybe this isn't the one. Maybe 116 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: it's the Georgia, the Georgia grand Jury that indics over 117 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: something related to the twenty twenty election. Someone somewhere looks 118 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: like they are going to be the one who be 119 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: the one who is the first into the breach here 120 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: for the Democrats, the first one to to go for it. 121 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: And this is then bringing up the why wouldn't they 122 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: do it? Right? Well, I think the reason they wouldn't 123 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: do it most likely. Oh, by the way, I'm sorry, 124 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: we do we did well. I read you what, uh what, 125 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: Desanta says, So we have that sound, um were you've 126 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: already you heard it? Yeah, I forgot that we had 127 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: it on the sheet. Sorry about that. So here we 128 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: go with people saying that this could be a well, 129 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: first of all, you got honest brokers in this. Even 130 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: a Democrat legal analyst like Jonathan Turley is saying, who's 131 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: a very good analysis on a lot of things here. 132 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: He is saying that, look, this is the most obvious 133 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: of all things, that this is a political prosecution. This 134 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: is mcgrave digger indictment. They literally dug up a claim, 135 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: a theory from twenty sixteen, a theory that the Department 136 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: of Justice decided did not warrant prosecution. And Bragg's own predecessor, 137 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: of course, did not bring this case. And so it's 138 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: really something that is rather patently obvious as a political prosecution. 139 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: In my view, there are serious risks here, but they're 140 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: also serious flaws in this indictment. I'm not entirely sure 141 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: Bragg didn't run out of time. I think that there's 142 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: strong arguments to make that the statue of limitations ran 143 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:02,559 Speaker 1: on this claim. So you have a vaguely, vaguely worded 144 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: statute that would have to be stretched to even be 145 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: a misdemeanor, that Bragg's office is allegedly going to stretch 146 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: into a felony prosecution and is somehow going to evade 147 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: the statute of limitations. How much more violent to the 148 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: law is a Democrat allowed to do before even Democrats 149 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: have to say, well, yeah, okay, this is this is 150 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: too much. Oh no, don't expect that. Rachel Maddow, for example, 151 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: is furious, furious over at MSNBC, not about the clear 152 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: and obvious abuse of the law against a presidential Republican 153 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: presidential candidate, but angry that Trump is inciting a violent 154 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: response that is racially tinged. She says Play eighteen K 155 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: being in guided on a charge related to campaign finance 156 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: tact in business fraud again doesn't have to be the 157 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: end of the world for him, and could potentially be 158 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: a positive for him. But if he's asking for a militant, 159 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 1: racially tins violent response from his followers, that's something that 160 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: won't be good for him. You know, January sixth is 161 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: not good for Trump's political legacy, for all the other 162 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: things that it is, for all the other things that 163 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: means for our country, it didn't make him more electable 164 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: for coming back as another term as president. Ah, he's 165 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: not calling for another violent insurrection. Isn't it fascinating that 166 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: if a Republican says protest this, then that's that's a 167 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: call to violence. Democrats can actually call it to violence, 168 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: and then they'll tell us that it was a protest. Afterwards, 169 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: I'll actually say, get out there on the streets, getting 170 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: people's faces, break stuff. Oh okay, that's again the double 171 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: standards are the only standards that the Democrats have. That's 172 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: not a surprise. We've known that for a very long time. 173 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: But she did bring up that interesting point about the 174 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: politics of this, as in will it help Trump or not? 175 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: It's such a weak prosecution that there seems to be 176 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: the realistic possibility that, more than anything else, it rallies 177 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: not just the Trump base, but the Republican base in 178 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: general around him as a candidate. You know, how did 179 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: we feel after morrow? You can you know, you heard 180 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: me on this show, you heard Clay on this show. 181 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: When the mar Lago raid happened, we were all saying, 182 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: this is outrageous. This pushes us right into the bunker 183 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: at you know, at Mara Lago, pushing back on all 184 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: this madness. Now, this pushes us deeply into a position 185 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: where you know, you have to stand up against this madness. 186 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: You have to support Donald Trump against this injustice. And 187 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: remember they were talking about the all the nuclear papers 188 00:11:56,679 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: that he had, He had top secret nuclear stuff. Haven't 189 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: heard that that in a while, have you right? Right? 190 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: Because does anyone think that they would have liked if 191 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: they really had him on advanced nuclear secrets were just 192 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: hanging out in a locker in maral Lago. You know, 193 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: you really think that would have faded? Of course, not 194 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: the advanced nuclear secrets. Were Trump saying, you know, please 195 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: don't use your nukes against America, you know, writing it 196 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: on a napkin or something. Give me a break. But 197 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: does this help him politically? That is the only reason 198 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: that I could see Bragg He probably you know, Bragg 199 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: is getting phone calls from and the biggest Democrats in 200 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: the country, most power. I mean, has he spoken to 201 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: the White House? Has he spoken to somebody who is 202 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: an emissary of Joe Biden at least if not Biden himself, 203 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: I would have to think so. Has he spoken to 204 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: the Attorney General? Now this wouldn't be a federal prosecution. 205 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: This is a local prosecution. But you know, probably wants 206 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: to get the okay from the very top because of 207 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: the political implications of this. So this is why I 208 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: thought that theory that we raised in the first hour 209 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: of Vanny McCarthy, that this could be the beginning of 210 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: many prosecutions against Trump, because then the flimsiness of it 211 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It's just start. It's just start the lawfare, 212 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: just just open it up, just start firing nonsense at him, 213 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: which is really what Russia collusion was, just a big 214 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: pile of nonsense that Trump had to deal with for 215 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: years and all of his staff and all his personnel 216 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 1: and the media was a Russia collusion. So that would 217 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: make sense to me because this from their perspective, because 218 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: this alone, this is so flimsy and so unlikely to 219 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: result in in anything. I mean, what are they gonna 220 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: lock Trump up for, you know, for six months, for 221 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: a year for this? What do they really think they're 222 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 1: going to accomplish with it as a legal matter, As 223 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: a political matter, that's what this is really all about. 224 00:13:56,480 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: And I think that they're worried that they're miss reading 225 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: what this would do, and that's the only thing that 226 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: would stop them at this point. I mean, the rule 227 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: of law, the future of our country, common decency. That's 228 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: the Democrats. That's like funny to them, that's funny stuff. 229 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: But power and what this does to Trump that matters 230 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: a whole heck of a lot. What do you think, 231 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: by the way, eight hundred two eight two eight eight 232 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: two is just going to help or hurt Trump if 233 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: this indictment and arrest happens tomorrow. Let us know, stocking 234 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: up your home with emergency food is just like buying 235 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: health insurance, car insurance, or home insurance. 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We got a bunch of lines lits. 253 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: What happens if this arrest of Donald Trump happens tomorrow. 254 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: Politically speaking, we can talk about the legalities of this 255 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: lawless it's funny the legality of the lawlessness as well. 256 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: But first we've got a number of people want to 257 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: weigh in. Mike in Connecticut, Mike, what have you got 258 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: for us? Yeah? About happy spring? Listen, this thing, this indictment, 259 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, just written up essay that they're going to 260 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: come up with. Um, it's an indictment done by a 261 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: peers of his people. And I don't know if a 262 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: judge oversees all this or simply sort of done by 263 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: the attorney general or whatever. But when that actually people 264 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: paper gets to the next stage, it's in front of 265 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: a judge direct me if I'm wrong, and does that 266 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: if he's enlightened in the last moment with you know, sanity, 267 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: does he have the ability to say this is maloney 268 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: and rip it up and throw it out and say rejected. 269 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean a judge, you could have the 270 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: counsel on behalf of Trump have a motion. Look, I'm 271 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: not a lawyer, but I've watched a lot of law 272 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: and order. You can have a motion to dismiss. And 273 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: you could then, I mean, which that's pretty standard stuff, 274 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: and you could certainly theoretically have a judge do that. 275 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: I think the chance of a judge in New New 276 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: York City doing that is next to zero. I'd give 277 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: it a one in one hundred shot, because that judge 278 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: would just defer to well, a grand jury has you know, 279 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: a grand jury has indicted, and you know that this 280 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: is all of a sudden you hear a lot of 281 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 1: hand ringing from a judge that well, first of all, 282 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: the judge won't have to explain the decision. May can 283 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: do anybody, really, but that would be the thought process 284 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: I think that judge would go through because New York 285 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: City is ninety percent Democrat, ninety percent Democrat, So there's 286 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: not a judge that I think you're gonna find who's 287 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: going to be the one that throws out an indictment 288 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: against Donald Trump. I could be wrong on this one. 289 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: I don't think I am. I tend to read how 290 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: the judges. 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So we have right now the White 317 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: House addressing the nation from the West wing. John Kirby, 318 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: National Security Council spokesman. He's talking about China's visit Hijin Ping, 319 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: visiting and meeting with Vladimir Putin. This is a very 320 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: troubling development. I think it's also troubling to see that 321 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 1: the White House position on all of this is no 322 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: cease fire. We don't think that Russia is understanding the 323 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: full ramifications of what we would demand to end the conflicts, 324 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: or no ceasefire. That's not really how you do a ceasefire. 325 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: There are a lot of cease fires that don't lead 326 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: to the end of a war, but it opens up 327 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: the possibility for the discussion to end the war. So essentially, 328 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: our hand is either so strong right now in Ukraine 329 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: that we wouldn't want to stop all the bloodshed, or 330 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: is so weak now in ukrainie we're gonna stop all 331 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: the bloodshed. It's crazy. I don't know how anybody is 332 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: going to justify this from it, but they're gonna get 333 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: away with it. They're not gonna get pressed by the 334 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: media on all of this. I would think that that 335 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: ceasefire right away, right away would be something that everybody 336 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: would would want. So at least you have the possibility 337 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: of a discussion between the heads of well Russia and 338 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: Ukraine respectively, but also other parties that might be involved 339 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: in the discussion to try to bring this whole thing 340 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: to a close. So that's important. We also have the 341 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: Trump situation right now and the possibility of the arrest 342 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: tomorrow of Donald Trump. I'm just gonna say this, I 343 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: I it's interesting some of his opponents out there is 344 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: h Bolton is running, right, am? I right, John Bolton's 345 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: actually running for president? Like quote running? I mean, I 346 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 1: think I think you know a number of radio hosts 347 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: who would get more votes for president than John Bolton 348 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: will get. Obviously, I think you know, well, actually, I 349 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: think some radio host would probably be great candidates. I'm 350 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: not talking about myself. They'd probably do very, very well. 351 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying John Bolton has zero shot, zero 352 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: shot of being president of the United States. So I 353 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: don't really know what he thinks he's doing other than 354 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: getting attention. But it's interesting because he has no chance, 355 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: and because he despises Trump, even though he worked for Trump. 356 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: Why did Trump make this guy national security advisor? I 357 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 1: you know, you have to ask these questions. He is 358 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 1: a neat He's an absolute neo con. He has a 359 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: reputation preceding Trump for being a nasty guy who will 360 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: backstab anybody in the bureaucracy to get ahead. This was 361 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: well known. Trump brought him in. Oh please, I hope, 362 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: I hope. I'm not going to hear. Oh. But Trump 363 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: couldn't have known it would have no, no, no, no, 364 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: he should have known he was the president. This was 365 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: not early in the administration either, This was halfway through Anyway. Bolton, though, 366 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: is saying if Trump is indicted but not convicted, it 367 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: will re elect him president play thirteen. If he's about 368 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: to be arrested, it almost certainly means he's going to 369 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: be indicted first. He's going to be required to come 370 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: in and surrender himself to answer to the indictment. So 371 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: it's not some random decision. But I'll say this, however 372 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: guilty Trump may be, and having very much in mind 373 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: the one rule of law for everybody, if they indict 374 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: and fail to convict in New York, I think historians 375 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: would look back and say, that is the act that 376 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: reelected Donald Trump president? Will it re elect him? This 377 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: is a fact. Wow. There by the way, right now, 378 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you this is a total side note. 379 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm wanting the White House Press conference up on the 380 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: monitors and there is a journalist with an n a 381 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: black N ninety five mask on in the west wing, 382 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: of course, of course, protecting people from COVID. Oh give 383 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: me a break. Anyway, back to the political analysis here 384 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: and what Bolton is putting forward. I think it's I 385 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: think there's a distinct possibility here that this is a 386 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: massive misstep from Democrats. Now that doesn't stop the fury 387 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: that we all feel from the abuse of power. But 388 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: just because their abusing power doesn't mean to end up 389 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: serving their long term interest because you can't really know, 390 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: You can't really know. Now, this is going to put 391 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 1: in place a number of variables that could shake out 392 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: in a whole bunch of different directions. Here is Chris Sinunu, 393 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: who I know people. I know. People are talking about 394 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: maybe him running as well in New Hampshire or out 395 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: of New Hampshire, I should say. But he's saying that 396 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: the case against Trump actually builds a lot of sympathy 397 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: for him. Play fourteen. I think it's building a lot 398 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: of sympathy for the former president. And I was with 399 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: coffee this morning with some folks and none of them 400 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: were big Trump supporters, but they all said, you know, 401 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: they felt like he was being attacked. And as you 402 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: pointed out, this is likely some sort of misdemeanor on 403 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: an issue seven years ago. This has nothing to do 404 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: with January sixth. This folks out there that still think 405 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: this has something to do with January sixth, So I 406 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,239 Speaker 1: just think that not just the media, but really a 407 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 1: lot of the Democrats have misplayed this in terms of 408 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: building sympathy for the former president and it does drastically 409 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: change the paradigm as we go into the twenty four election. 410 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: So what's interesting as well as you will hear this 411 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,239 Speaker 1: assessment from people who are analyzing the politics of this, 412 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: that what the Democrats want. What the Democrats want is 413 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: the rallying effect for their base of indicting Trump, the 414 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: rallying effects around Trump of that indictment, and then Trump 415 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: being the candidate against Biden because they would rather run 416 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: against Trump than any other candidate. I don't know if 417 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: that's true, but that is another assessment that is out there. 418 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: That is another possibility in all this. So you have 419 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: to take that into account that maybe, well, they have 420 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: to know there's going to be a sympathy, particularly among 421 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: Trump supporters, but I think just among people well beyond 422 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: the hardcore Trump base. At this point of the primary, 423 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: we are in a primary. Let's keep that in mind. 424 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: Started it's not full swing yet, but we are in 425 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,959 Speaker 1: a primary for the Republican nomination, and I think that 426 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: the Trump voters are going to be in that primary Remember, 427 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: you have to distinguish between people who would vote for 428 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: him for president and people who are already decided that 429 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: they would vote for him in the primary election. That 430 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: a lot of other people gonna say, look, if they're 431 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: gonna diet him, this cannot stand. So is that then 432 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: the purpose of Democrats as well, is that what they're 433 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: hoping will be accomplished by this or do they really 434 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: think going back to the Gulliver with the Lilliputians tying 435 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: him down, is it going to be a whole bunch 436 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: of different legal snares that they try to capture Trump 437 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,239 Speaker 1: in so that he runs and is hobbled, you know, 438 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 1: so that he runs and is not able to so 439 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: that he's not really able to run entirely. He's able 440 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: to kind of, you know, limp along here in his 441 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: attempt to become president once again. So these are all possibilities, 442 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: and I know generally I don't spend as much time 443 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: on what is possible as we have here today. But 444 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: let's be clear that the New York Police Department, the 445 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,920 Speaker 1: NYPD where I spent a little time as an intel analyst, 446 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: and the Prosecutor's office, the disattorney's office in New York. 447 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: This is a real thing that is probably gonna happen. Right, 448 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: This isn't just out of nowhere discussions. New York City 449 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: is preparing for this, and so you have to also 450 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: take that into account. Right, if Bragg backs down from this, 451 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: if Alvin Bragg backs down at this point, it makes 452 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: first of all, makes him look like he doesn't really 453 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 1: have the stuff to get it done, you know, not 454 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: just on this prosecution. But you know, the Democrats are 455 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: gonna say, oh great, another another person who wasn't willing 456 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: to do whatever it takes for our side. Whereas if 457 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: he does it, there's nothing but upside for the Manhattan 458 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Disattorney Bragg if he prosecutes Trump. Over the long run, yeah, 459 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: they'll be criticism, and yes, it destroys our rule of law, 460 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: and it's awful and it's political weaponization. All of that 461 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: is true, but he gets to be a hero to 462 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: his side. Look at all the look and if you 463 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: want some proof of this, look at what happened to 464 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: the FBI, the disgraced FBI officials who were fired and 465 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: who you know in one case, even what was it 466 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: McKay bloss's pension. They all got book deals board seats, 467 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: CNN contributorships, they're off. They're all wealthier now than they 468 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: were then. Just think of it that way, because the 469 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 1: Democrat apparatus takes care of its ideological soldiers always, always, 470 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: But you have to be willing to go to any extreme. 471 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: You have to put any principles aside in favor of 472 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: the cause. So for me, it's it's an easy decision. 473 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: If I'm Alvin Bragg and this is this is who 474 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: I've decided, I'm going to be representing the Democrat Party. 475 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: But we'll have to see. Tomorrow could be a heck 476 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: of a heck of a day, could be a heck 477 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: of a day in American politics and history. Or maybe 478 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: he backs off. Maybe they want to keep this in 479 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: the back pocket, so to speak. Oh maybe at some point. 480 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: And if they do that, I'm telling you I believe 481 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: it's only because they're worried out what the politics will be. 482 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: They're worried that it will be such a rallying effect 483 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: for Trump that he will be stronger in the primary 484 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: and strong enough to even beat Joe Biden in the 485 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: general election. 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Listen to the program live, 516 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: catch up on any part of the show you might 517 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: have missed. Use your CNB twenty four to seven subscription 518 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: to get access to the guys. Fine the Clay and 519 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: Buck app in your app store and make it part 520 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: of your day. Plus up the shop today. Well, first 521 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: of all, the exciting news that our good friend mister 522 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: Clay Travis, my esteemed and fantastic co host, will be 523 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: back here tomorrow from a family trip in Italy, so 524 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: it'll be Clay and Buck back in action tomorrow. I 525 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: really appreciated the chance to get to hang out with 526 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: a last week and keep this unsingable aircraft carrier of 527 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: free speech floating along and taking the fights at the Commies, 528 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: not running it a ground or ashore in the process, 529 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: at least not that I'm aware of. So yeah, Clay 530 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow and it could be the heck 531 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: of a newsday, that's for sure, assuming all these reports 532 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: about Trump are true, So we will follow that very closely. 533 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: Also want to remind you got a great deep dive 534 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: podcast coming out later this week with our friend Jesse 535 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: Kelly of The Jesse Kelly Show. 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You want 546 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: to hear that. Now, my friends, we have a bunch 547 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: of calls. I wanted to get to Joel in Raleigh, 548 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: North Carolina, where I believe the show is number one 549 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: in the market. Joel, what's going on? All right? Buck? 550 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: I want to tell you, and I told the tall 551 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: screen of this that I despise Donald Trump. I voted 552 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: for him twice. I despise him and he has done 553 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: more harm than good. Look at the twenty twenty two 554 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: elections and the candidates he endorsed. I go back and 555 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: I look though, is his administration it really I won't 556 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: say the words, but upsets me to put it nicely. 557 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: He treated General Kelly and General Maddis. I'm a Marine 558 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: Corps veteran that really did not sit well with me. 559 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: And again, why does he have to run his mouth 560 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: instead of telling us why we should reelect him or 561 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: vote for him again? All he can do is call 562 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,719 Speaker 1: Governor Ron to send us Rhino Ron to Saint Demonious 563 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: and attack him. I just don't understand it. I wish 564 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: if Trump is listening, or some of his advisors are listening, 565 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: tell him to shut up and stop with a childish 566 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: mess and listen to what I'm saying, Because I'm speaking 567 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: for a lot of people here in North Carolina that 568 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: I talked to about this a lot. It's ridiculous and 569 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: if this invitement stuff, yes, it's political stunt in the sham, 570 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: but I don't want him to run. I would not 571 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: vote for him in the primary, and if he somehow 572 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: does pull it off and when the GOP nomination, it 573 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: would be now, I would not vote for any socialists, 574 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: leftist Democrat or any Democrat period. But a lot of us, 575 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: we honestly feel this way his time as fast as 576 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: he should just sit back from the side and do 577 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: his work and endorse whoever the nominee is. If he does. 578 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: I feel like if he does not win the nominations 579 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: and he is going to go run on his own 580 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: and he's gonna kill us. And so, Joel, you think 581 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: you're you're talking about a third party run if he 582 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: doesn't win the nomination, that's what I think he'll do, independent, 583 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: third party, whatever you want to call it. Hey, Joel, 584 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. First of all, I just want to 585 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: say thank you for your service, and I appreciate you're 586 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: very fired off on this, and thank you for calling 587 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: in um. And look, I'll say I'll say this, and 588 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: I want everyone, everyone listening to hear this, because this 589 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: is this is the reality. Okay, we got we got people. 590 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: We've got hundreds and hundreds of radio stations all over 591 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: the country. We have conservatives patriots listening from all all 592 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: over America. And there are really, there are really three 593 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: camps right now that I'm hearing from. And I hear 594 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: from you because you sent me Facebook messages, because you 595 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: email me, because you call into the show. Now, remember 596 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: a lot of people call in and talk to the 597 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: call screeners and then they relay that to us. But 598 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: because of our time clock and everything, we don't get 599 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: we can't get everybody on the air. The show would 600 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: just be a call in show, right. But so we're 601 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: hearing your feedback all the time. By the way, if 602 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: you want to get emails directly to us, the clayin 603 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: Buck vip at clayinbuck dot com. You got a VIP 604 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: email address that the producers read right away, they send 605 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: it to us. We talk about that and take that 606 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: into account. There are three camps here, okay, there are 607 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: there are the It has to be Trump, it will 608 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: only be Trump, and and he's the only one who 609 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: can win, and you know you can fill in the rest, right, 610 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: we hear from those people, those are those are our 611 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: fellow conservatives, fellow fellow Republicans. There's I'm tired of There's 612 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: our last caller. I'm tired of Trump. I voted for him, 613 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 1: but you know, I loved what he did. He was 614 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 1: a great president. But I'm I'm done with it. I can't. 615 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: I can't deal with his stuff anymore. I don't like 616 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: what he's doing anymore. And then there's a third group, 617 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: which is, look, let's see where this goes. Let's let 618 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: the primary play out, and let's let's make sure that 619 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: you know the best candidate, the best man wins. We're 620 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: gonna hear from all of them here, and this is 621 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 1: a place where all those perspectives are welcome, and we're 622 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: going to make sure that we do the best job 623 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: here we can on the show to both reflect the 624 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 1: the you know, perception and feelings and opinions of all 625 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: of you, so we can have this discussion and also 626 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: to handle it as it comes in with the new cycle, 627 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: to bring you the best information we can. And we'll see. 628 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: But I just want to say to everybody, because you know, 629 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: we'll take one call that has one opinion, another call 630 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: as another opinion. We got we got really three big 631 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: groups here listening, and they all have a voice, they 632 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: all have a place here, and we're all going to 633 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: continue to work through this stuff together. Right, So keep 634 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: that in mind because this primary is gonna get spicy, 635 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: gonna be a spicy primary. And also tomorrow they might 636 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: arrest Donald Trump, So we'll keep our eyes on this 637 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: one team. She'll tie