Speaker 1: It is Monday, August sixteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: on a Monday. We are Pete Frisco free today. It's
Speaker 1: a ratings bonanza on this Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli in a busy show ahead preseason week one review.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars lost to the Cleveland Browns Saturday night at
Speaker 1: t I A. Bank Field. We'll hear from senior writer
Speaker 1: John oderan studio in about fifteen minutes to recap practice
Speaker 1: number fourteen of training camp. Today, some pants issues, it
Speaker 1: sounded like NFL films At ESPN producer and analyst Greg Cosell,
Speaker 1: we'll join us at five o'clock and talk quarterback play
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and a few other rookie debuts in preseason
Speaker 1: week one around the NFL. Social media questions are rolling
Speaker 1: in today without Pete here, and we'll go around the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Tony, good afternoon, Good afternoon. Who are
Speaker 1: you texting right now? What is going on? We're doing
Speaker 1: a radio show Tony. Uh, what is going on? I'm
Speaker 1: texting our good friend Jeff Wagman. Okay, well that's no,
Speaker 1: it's really not Sorry, sorry, welcome, welcome to radio here.
Speaker 1: We are, well listen with no Pete? I whoever? I want?
Speaker 1: I guess? So yeah, no pizza Minnesota. By the way,
Speaker 1: covering the vikings today, poor excuse for first preseason games.
Speaker 1: They CBS sent an entire television set table like we
Speaker 1: have here in studio, and like what an anchor and
Speaker 1: another guy and him and they're doing from live from camp.
Speaker 1: They didn't do that here. I mean, what are we
Speaker 1: doing Pete? Does anyone really want to see Pete on TV? No?
Speaker 1: I mean I agree with you. That's what's happening. Though. Um,
Speaker 1: how do you feeling after Saturday night about the Jaguars
Speaker 1: squad in Tony? You know, not much different than I
Speaker 1: did before. I mean, it's the first preseason game. What
Speaker 1: I mean, typical overreaction. It would have happened the other
Speaker 1: way too, if they come out and lit it up.
Speaker 1: Here we go, book tickets in l A. We're going
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. And now they had a bad game,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, they're not gonna win a football
Speaker 1: game this year. It's like, come on, it's somewhere in between. Um.
Speaker 1: The panic button here is that every everybody has their
Speaker 1: hand on it at this time every single year anyway,
Speaker 1: it's ready to click it. Part of that is because
Speaker 1: it's been this team has struggled for a long time outside,
Speaker 1: so you you have a hard time of having being
Speaker 1: optimistic and you want to see results. But it's the
Speaker 1: first preseason game. You can't overreact. Um, was it good? No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't good. Definitely positive, but it wasn't where you
Speaker 1: wanted to be, not guarantee herb. It was frustrated. Probably
Speaker 1: sounded like you have your first today, you have your
Speaker 1: first offense, first defense. You're playing against backups, and you're
Speaker 1: not being You're not being productive. Forgot the wins or
Speaker 1: losses of the overall game. I'm just looking at that
Speaker 1: first quarter, quarter and a half, you and your starters
Speaker 1: out there, you're not productive. Trevor Lawrence Trevor Lawrence on
Speaker 1: his backside play one, Yeah, I mean that's frustrating. Um. Defensively,
Speaker 1: first drive to go up and go right down the
Speaker 1: field kicking field goal frustrating? Is it panic time. No.
Speaker 1: But you know the first thing that came to mind
Speaker 1: after that game when I woke up Sunday morning. You
Speaker 1: ever see Smoking in the Bandit? The original? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: have a long way to go to short time to
Speaker 1: get there. Snowman that the Snowman wasn't Wasn't that the
Speaker 1: the guy driving the the big rig to go pick
Speaker 1: up the illegal Coors light and arcana with the bandit?
Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds, Sally Fields great one of the number first
Speaker 1: of all, maybe when the one of the great all
Speaker 1: time movies. I mean, there's it's a great movie. Um,
Speaker 1: Jackie Jackie Glees, Yeah, good stuff. Hey, let's get to Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's my whole point was a long way to go,
Speaker 1: but a short time to get there. Because this team
Speaker 1: has a long way to go. We all knew that
Speaker 1: they won one game last year JP losing skid right now,
Speaker 1: you don't fix it overnight, and and you know, are
Speaker 1: they going to be better against Houston? And we saw
Speaker 1: yesterday absolutely absolutely what you wanted because you said there's
Speaker 1: because that's like overall, were there positives? Yes, plenty? Okay, Lawrence,
Speaker 1: I want to see Cana translate. He's done on the
Speaker 1: practice field he did in college first preseason game. Positive. Yes,
Speaker 1: he can do it. He can make Did he hold
Speaker 1: it a few times too long? Sure? Did he maybe
Speaker 1: not not trust it right away? Sure? Did he make
Speaker 1: some big time throws? Did he stand in the pocket?
Speaker 1: Was he unaffected after getting drilled the first play of
Speaker 1: the game. Yes, positives all good things. Does he have
Speaker 1: a rocket of the right arm? Yes? Do I I
Speaker 1: would have liked to see, you know, no one else
Speaker 1: wants to see it, and it's probably not a good thing.
Speaker 1: Would be fun to on the zone read on fourth
Speaker 1: to one. I think he could have kept it, but
Speaker 1: maybe the staff told him not to. Yeah, don't be
Speaker 1: running over the football. I think, I mean, would be
Speaker 1: fun to see. But so that's a positive. You know,
Speaker 1: James Robinson look good. Positive the run defense, run defense dominant.
Speaker 1: Davon Hamilton's positive physical good player positives. In the second thought,
Speaker 1: A San had two good passwors against the backup tackle.
Speaker 1: Positive stuff come on, good contested balls out there. C
Speaker 1: J Henderson, good to see him on the field. I
Speaker 1: know everyone's been down on CJ because off the field issues,
Speaker 1: whatever they are. But here's the thing. We're better with
Speaker 1: c J. When he's healthy, he's on the field. He's
Speaker 1: a good player. He might be your overall most talented corner.
Speaker 1: I think that good good player, um Ray, Sean Jenkins, positive,
Speaker 1: flying around, energy, come here, guys, Logan Cook booming, the weapon,
Speaker 1: the weapon all positive. So there's there's positives out there.
Speaker 1: Let's hear from Urban Meyer. He spoke before practice today.
Speaker 1: You know it is against his nature to hold things
Speaker 1: back in a football game. He wants starters out there
Speaker 1: a little longer. And this idea of having to hold
Speaker 1: back things in the free season in terms of scheme,
Speaker 1: it's all new to Urban so much. I hear, we
Speaker 1: can't show this, can't show this, can't show this cancer.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to get into it, but
Speaker 1: I want to go some tempo on. I'm used to
Speaker 1: some certain things. You'll see more of it as we
Speaker 1: get moving forward. I don't want what you saw is
Speaker 1: not what we're gonna be, and I gotta get it.
Speaker 1: We're right all the shooting. I think sometimes coaches, we
Speaker 1: can't we can't show this, we can't show that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why tell me, you explain to me why you know
Speaker 1: so Paranoia, which I'm the worst at up and not
Speaker 1: surban Mire. Paranoia was the second question there, Tony, Why
Speaker 1: Tony why? First of all, me and Herb, I'm aligned
Speaker 1: with your head coach, me and you feel the same
Speaker 1: way about this. It's ridiculous. Coaches are paranoid for no reason.
Speaker 1: He's exactly why. I mean, right, I had that conversation
Speaker 1: with their NFL coach. He's saying, oh, we can't do that,
Speaker 1: and I asked, same thing, why oh do show a thing? Really?
Speaker 1: You know what show anything already? I can tell you
Speaker 1: what you're going to do as a coach because I
Speaker 1: know what your history has been, Like, what are you hiding?
Speaker 1: There's no secrets. It's football, and maybe there's nuances here there,
Speaker 1: but guess what after week one everyone's I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: with you, I'm with Urban there. I mean, I agree
Speaker 1: a thousand percent with Uran. The example that hit on
Speaker 1: earlier today on Jaguars dot Com an article was Travis
Speaker 1: et and he played thirteen snaps, ran the ball once,
Speaker 1: and was targeted another time. That was it. And we've
Speaker 1: all always heard this offseason the Et is gonna be
Speaker 1: a weapon. He's lining up here, he's doing this, he's
Speaker 1: in motion. He's the guy in offensive weapon. They didn't
Speaker 1: show any of that because I guess they don't want
Speaker 1: the other teams to see what they might do with him. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the other argument. You've told them that you're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, there's always so many places on the field.
Speaker 1: He can line up, run out in the wishbone, everybody
Speaker 1: at that said position. Let's say, sit the slot. There's
Speaker 1: only a handful of things he's going to do from
Speaker 1: the slot. I mean, so I'm not saying show everything,
Speaker 1: but you know what, at some point, this young team,
Speaker 1: they better practice what they want to do. Right. Then.
Speaker 1: That's Urban's point too, is that I'd love to see
Speaker 1: the quarterback more. He said we need reps for him.
Speaker 1: He's a young quarterback. I agree with Urban. I think
Speaker 1: we've gone too far. You know who can veto all
Speaker 1: that though? Is Urban can? He can? We'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been leaning on his coordinators in the NFL experience,
Speaker 1: to coaches to you know, give him some advice on
Speaker 1: these matters. Well, I'm of the more old school thought,
Speaker 1: like a Belichick, Andy Reid, Bruce arians. I mean, you
Speaker 1: saw Hall of Fame quarterbacks or potentially Hall of fame
Speaker 1: quarterbacks at the very minimum, playing in the first preseason game.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you think he needs reps? JP, he thinks
Speaker 1: you know what. You want to know why he's great
Speaker 1: because he thinks he does he needs He thinks he
Speaker 1: thinks he does. He wants to get better. Patrick mahomesh
Speaker 1: Andy reata, I want him reps. So he's behind this
Speaker 1: new offensive line, you know, go down. I mean Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: we know what he's gonna do. Those guys are playing.
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, Hey, guys need reps. The game of football
Speaker 1: is a game of repetition. You go and forget football?
Speaker 1: When did you let me ask you a question? J
Speaker 1: B and Joe chime in here. Joe's producing as we
Speaker 1: have no pete Prisco. Can someone tell me one thing
Speaker 1: that you get better at in life without practicing? Mhmm.
Speaker 1: I can't. Off the top of my head. No, I
Speaker 1: can't either because in my experience, joh no, my history. Like,
Speaker 1: if you want to get better at something, let me
Speaker 1: tell you one formula that doesn't work, don't practice it. Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to get better at offensive line, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to practice it. I want to get better blocking.
Speaker 1: I need better technique and my past sets for the
Speaker 1: wide rusher. But I'm not gonna practice. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: work on It'll just got a mental reping mental rep.
Speaker 1: You know, I have a quarterback. I've never played in
Speaker 1: the NFL before. I want to be the best ever.
Speaker 1: But I don't need a preseason. I don't need practice.
Speaker 1: I'll just do it when it counts. Yeah, when it
Speaker 1: counts is too late. Guess what you have to prepare
Speaker 1: so that when it does count you can do it.
Speaker 1: And so this whole thing of resting guys and not
Speaker 1: playing guys and not showing stuff and not working on
Speaker 1: your based fundamental things, I don't buy it. You know what,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to show your trick creation and
Speaker 1: this thing you're not, you have a package for E.
Speaker 1: T N that's gonna be really dynamic and you want
Speaker 1: to catch uston by surprise. Don't show that. But you
Speaker 1: know what would be good. How many routes is E.
Speaker 1: T N run in the NFL as a receiver? However
Speaker 1: many you did the other night, net zero? How many
Speaker 1: times has he caught the ball in the NFL? Zero?
Speaker 1: Net zero? How about we get him some reps? Have
Speaker 1: we get a little couple of things. So I'm with
Speaker 1: Urban there, I get the parents coaches of the most
Speaker 1: paranoid group of people have met. Are they're afraid that,
Speaker 1: like some that there's secret sauce out there, like somehow
Speaker 1: they are the inventor of the game. Of everybody's route
Speaker 1: tree is kind of the same. You run a post,
Speaker 1: run a corner, you run a dig. You're in a
Speaker 1: basic route and you're wannna slant, you're in the hitch.
Speaker 1: You're gonna stop, you're gonna sit, you're gonna come back,
Speaker 1: You're in a hook. Okay. There's combinations of such that
Speaker 1: you can work off each other pretty similar. You can
Speaker 1: work guess what JP. You can runcover three, or you
Speaker 1: can run coover two or cover four, you can run
Speaker 1: cover six. You can play straight man, you can go
Speaker 1: all blitz as you can. I mean, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: show everything, but you gotta get work, especially when you're
Speaker 1: a young team. I would argue the benefit of getting
Speaker 1: reps outweighs any secret paranoia, uh that you have as
Speaker 1: a coach that David Couleey and the Texans are gonna
Speaker 1: get you. See what he did Now, I figured out
Speaker 1: everything we found it, and I'll end with this. I
Speaker 1: know we had to go to break my favorite. I
Speaker 1: remember when this is a long time ago in college,
Speaker 1: John Robinson College Hall of Fame, College Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: football won a national title, took the Rams, went to
Speaker 1: the NFL several playoff runs, I think one a NFC
Speaker 1: title game. Good football coach, he used to tell us,
Speaker 1: he goes, guess what, I don't care. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: so good at what we do. I don't care if
Speaker 1: they know we're gonna because we're gonna be the best.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get reps and reps and and his point
Speaker 1: was not we show everything, but we're gonna rep it out.
Speaker 1: And I even think back to Pete Carroll when he
Speaker 1: was at SC and John Robinson had the same philosophy.
Speaker 1: You know, every practice was wide open at USC. Did
Speaker 1: not care who came. You could just like go watch,
Speaker 1: come watch, because we're just gonna go. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: our stuff. Wow, this is who we are. Student body left,
Speaker 1: you know is gonna happen? You know where to Reggie,
Speaker 1: we're hm and he's gonna run, I mean now, and
Speaker 1: if you can stop it, good for you. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying going to that extent, I'm not saying every
Speaker 1: practice should be open for the NFL and they just
Speaker 1: le want to come see. But there's somewhere in between
Speaker 1: that mentality and being scared to death and not working
Speaker 1: on stuff. There has to be some middle ground. And
Speaker 1: I think that. I think this next preseason game against
Speaker 1: the Saints, and I know we'll talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about that. I guess we're not having a Monday night
Speaker 1: show next week because it's Monday Night football, um, and
Speaker 1: so we'll hit on that a little bit because I
Speaker 1: think that is think that second preseason game is really
Speaker 1: important for this team, and I think they need significant reps.
Speaker 1: I think the starters need to play the third quarter
Speaker 1: the third quarter. I think they need reps. I like it.
Speaker 1: Let's take our first time out on the program. We've
Speaker 1: got plenty ahead. We'll hear from Joe Cullen he spoke
Speaker 1: earlier today, defensive coordinator. We'll hear from the quarterback Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence after the game. Josh Allen coming up in just
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Speaker 1: Football League. The more you be playing this league is
Speaker 1: the more stuff is on the seat. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, as y'all probably knowing your profession. Uh, so
Speaker 1: you just can't take anything for granted. Luckily, Joe went
Speaker 1: to a team that needed him most. That's a blessing,
Speaker 1: uh that, But for a lot of other people it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen like that. So, uh, you know, I hope
Speaker 1: Joe and his family transistion as well, and I wishing
Speaker 1: to him about the best, and uh, any other guy
Speaker 1: who's about to go to these first cuts. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, we bust. I feel like
Speaker 1: everybody on this team do twenty can't bust their butt
Speaker 1: uh to be on this team. But you know, We
Speaker 1: can't have everybody on the teams sold, but I think
Speaker 1: you know they keep working. Somebody's gonna pick him up.
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Speaker 1: Plenty coming up, great co Sell at five o'clock. We've
Speaker 1: got some offensive line talk. We gotta get to Tony.
Speaker 1: That'll be in the second hour. John Oser joins us
Speaker 1: now Jaguars dot Com. Well, I once replaced Pete on
Speaker 1: the Jaguars beat at the tea use and it's better
Speaker 1: back then then we're better now. It is great to
Speaker 1: be here with my friend J. P. Shadder can Tony
Speaker 1: to sell what Tony's here too? That's great. Glad you're
Speaker 1: along for the ride. Tony. That's real nice. You know,
Speaker 1: we just heard from urban Meyer earlier today and we
Speaker 1: ran them by the second ago about him trying to
Speaker 1: wrap his mind around hiding things in the preseason, and Tony,
Speaker 1: you you're all about showing a little bit more. I
Speaker 1: think Urban's the same boat. I'm not like you have
Speaker 1: to show every like wrinkle that you have, but you
Speaker 1: have to do enough, especially when you're a young team,
Speaker 1: to get you ready for the regular season. Like we're
Speaker 1: not talking about the Buccaneers with Tom Brady that but
Speaker 1: by the way, spend countless hours in the off season
Speaker 1: under his leadership of getting the timing and everything else.
Speaker 1: Has got a guy who's seen everything fifty thousand times,
Speaker 1: a fairly veteran offensive line group and veteran receivers and talent.
Speaker 1: You're not talking about that group. You're talking about a
Speaker 1: group who is fearing out as they go with their
Speaker 1: working quarterback who's very talented, but a lot of work
Speaker 1: to do, and what they dynamic playmaker and et N.
Speaker 1: That you're talking about using in all these certain different ways.
Speaker 1: You don't just show up on September whatever the date
Speaker 1: is in Houston and just say, oh, let's turn it
Speaker 1: on now, now we got it. I just don't buy that.
Speaker 1: I think you have to show you have to work
Speaker 1: on things. John, thanks for coming to the show. But
Speaker 1: that's a question. John Urban kind of has the attitude
Speaker 1: if if guys can play and there and they're better
Speaker 1: than the opponent. That they're going to perform it. They're
Speaker 1: gonna show their better than the opponent, even if maybe
Speaker 1: the opponent is seeing one or two things they do
Speaker 1: on film. A film gets around in the NFL by
Speaker 1: week two. All this right, So, uh I I agree
Speaker 1: with them. I don't think you show your trick plays.
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't go to your eighth option in the playbook,
Speaker 1: but to run the offense. Yes, And I also think
Speaker 1: Urbans talking about going up tempo, you better work on that.
Speaker 1: You better work on that. And you can do that
Speaker 1: and work on that without going deep into your playbook.
Speaker 1: Just speed things up. When he's talking about that, he's
Speaker 1: talking more about getting to the line quickly, snapping the
Speaker 1: ball go. He's not talking about giving away schemes or
Speaker 1: looks or specific place Because here's the thing, here's the
Speaker 1: side of the anti paranoid quote, because they're all paranoid,
Speaker 1: some more and others. You know what, Actually, the more
Speaker 1: you do in preseason, you know, you force the texts
Speaker 1: to do prepare for everything. Prepare for everything. So how
Speaker 1: about you started running hurry up? Now, some part of
Speaker 1: the practices doing hurry up, but you can beat up
Speaker 1: tempo and be vanilla, no doubt about it. You know, um,
Speaker 1: if you put E t n in fifty different positions,
Speaker 1: now they're worried about. Okay, we have to track this
Speaker 1: guy all over the place. If you you know, show
Speaker 1: and I'm not as for this because you don't want
Speaker 1: Trevor taking hits, but you show zone read stuff where
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks keeping and running a few times. Okay, I
Speaker 1: read stuff where he doesn't keep it m but you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I mean, sure, so there's you.
Speaker 1: I can play this both ways. And I have this
Speaker 1: conversation with coaches, not just here, other places going come on,
Speaker 1: everyone knows what you're going to do. There's a book
Speaker 1: on every coach, like the especially when you had NFL
Speaker 1: Core Naders. You want to know he's go watch Detroit
Speaker 1: last year, Go watch the five years he is at Seattle.
Speaker 1: You wanna shotten Haimer's is gonna go watch the last
Speaker 1: couple of years of Seattle. Go look at the Jets.
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys have a book on him and
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. One know Joe Colin's gonna do.
Speaker 1: Go watch the Ravens. He's talked about it. By the way,
Speaker 1: off season he has. Yes, he's been very on their
Speaker 1: tape and that's what that's what that's what they're gonna be. John,
Speaker 1: what do you make of the Joe Schobert trade to Pittsburgh? Uh?
Speaker 1: I felt like a guy who was not going to
Speaker 1: have nearly the role here he did last year. Felt
Speaker 1: like Damien Wilson was going to start in base and
Speaker 1: then Miles Jack was their best nickel backer. H And
Speaker 1: Urban kind of went away from this when he was
Speaker 1: asked on Saturday, but he just feel like it wasn't
Speaker 1: a scheme fit. And when the rest of the league
Speaker 1: knows you're trying to get rid of a guy, it's
Speaker 1: hard to get a lot of value. Okay, So John,
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, because I have the
Speaker 1: philosophy that if you're gonna get rid of a player,
Speaker 1: whether trade them or cut them, but do you have
Speaker 1: somebody on their rosters who you can replace them with.
Speaker 1: It's better that you get better, especially in the trade,
Speaker 1: or you get some future compensation that makes you better.
Speaker 1: They believe that the combination of Wilson and Quarterman, we'll
Speaker 1: do that. That's they're thinking your thoughts where if you
Speaker 1: were looking at the linebacking cores. For my opinion, I
Speaker 1: would have said Schobert was your third best linebacker, especially
Speaker 1: in nickel. But if he doesn't fit what you do, okay,
Speaker 1: but nickel he does fit. But are you paying them
Speaker 1: all that money for one down? It's not one down?
Speaker 1: Your defense is nicol. On top of that, you're paying
Speaker 1: his guaranteed money still and by the way, you got
Speaker 1: a six rounder. That's it and so long term, I
Speaker 1: get that he is not the thumper that you need
Speaker 1: at mic linebacker in this ske but the majority of
Speaker 1: football today has played in third down and sub personnel.
Speaker 1: And my question is if Joe Schobert is your third
Speaker 1: best linebacker and maybe your second best nickel linebacker, and
Speaker 1: maybe he's not, maybe I don't view him that is,
Speaker 1: did you get better? And are you better off replacing
Speaker 1: him with whoever? Who? I mean, who who's gonna pay?
Speaker 1: Who's your number one nickel is a Damian Wilson? Or
Speaker 1: how about this they could play a little dimeond bringing
Speaker 1: a safety down closer. Then you're missing point what I
Speaker 1: mean I get. The only thing I view you saved
Speaker 1: here is you cleaned up your cap a year earlier
Speaker 1: because you're gonna take your major cap hit this year
Speaker 1: and spread it out, but you're still paying his guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: It's not like you have cap pressure this year anyways. Right.
Speaker 1: They didn't believe that he even at their coverage scheme
Speaker 1: the way that they wanted it too. So I tend
Speaker 1: to agree with you. You're giving away who a guy
Speaker 1: who has proven in the NFL, and you're paying m
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. I didn't quite get it, but I think
Speaker 1: that's their approach, and I'm all for it. If you five,
Speaker 1: if you have, if you're trying to free up. And
Speaker 1: here's what I don't know, maybe they love one of
Speaker 1: these younger guys that Joe Schobert, while better today, was
Speaker 1: gonna take reps from them. They open the door up
Speaker 1: to one of these younger guys. That's what I don't know, Quarterman.
Speaker 1: But I don't know that he's better than Schobert in
Speaker 1: Nickel's situation. Yeah, that I'm talking to Nickel first, Like, listen,
Speaker 1: Joe Chobert does not fit the system in first and
Speaker 1: second down. He's not a thumper. You need a thumper
Speaker 1: if you're gonna play three for He's not physical enough.
Speaker 1: I agree, with Trent or Urban or Joe Cole and
Speaker 1: whoever made this isn't I'm a pcent on board there.
Speaker 1: From a cover standpoint, I get that you want to
Speaker 1: Von and paying him that much money probably didn't make sense,
Speaker 1: but you've already it's a sunk cost and you're gonna
Speaker 1: pay a portion of his guaranteed money anyways. And so
Speaker 1: unless he wasn't going to play as much in nicol
Speaker 1: as we thought, and then I guess the trade tells
Speaker 1: me that's the case. I don't know this is the
Speaker 1: case and that and and so that's the one thing
Speaker 1: I just don't know. Maybe there's just guys on this
Speaker 1: roster that are younger that they want reps for. And
Speaker 1: if that's the case, and if you're Trent in Urban,
Speaker 1: well it might not make sense in the immediate Do
Speaker 1: you have a long term view? I can buy that. John.
Speaker 1: We're on the practice field today standing next to each other.
Speaker 1: When Trevor Lawrence was in red zone seven on seven
Speaker 1: work carving up defenses again and we've seen that a
Speaker 1: lot in the practice field. What did you make of
Speaker 1: his performance the other night Saturday Night? Was fifteen plays?
Speaker 1: Was big third down throws? Stand out um pretty to
Speaker 1: start two things. There's still a lot of work to
Speaker 1: do for him though. Well. The ability the other night
Speaker 1: to recover and come from being behind and down on
Speaker 1: distance early and still getting the first down. I thought
Speaker 1: it was impressive and encouraging. And I you guys have
Speaker 1: seen it every practice. Uh, with a couple of exceptions.
Speaker 1: There has been a play or a stretch of plays
Speaker 1: where you walked away sort of nodding and going, okay,
Speaker 1: that's what it is today. It was in the red
Speaker 1: zone right before that red zone really had a really
Speaker 1: nice past to Pharaoh Cooper in seven on seven I believe.
Speaker 1: And then three or four consecutive plays in the red
Speaker 1: zone where he's got the zip on the ball and
Speaker 1: he's got the touch and he he throws it in
Speaker 1: the right way to get it there, meaning he doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily have to put a lot of air on it
Speaker 1: to get into the corner of the end zone. Uh.
Speaker 1: He can throw it with zip, he can throw the
Speaker 1: he's got a natural feel for how to throw the
Speaker 1: ball down there, and he's got the arm talent to
Speaker 1: do it. And I, Antony, you've seen it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I was around Peyton. You worked for the Colts. The
Speaker 1: you saw Peyton unbelievable, uh mental approach the game, and
Speaker 1: he had the physical ability to do it, but he
Speaker 1: didn't have the physical ability the arm, the natural arm
Speaker 1: of this guy. Uh. You know, time will tell if
Speaker 1: he can, if Trevor has that mental capacity for the game.
Speaker 1: But I've never apologies to our boy Marker. Now, I've
Speaker 1: never been around a quarterback that has this sort of
Speaker 1: physical tools. It's special. And he doesn't have to get
Speaker 1: to uh Manning's mental capacity because I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: else is in his game, right, I mean, what makes
Speaker 1: Manning But in that rain, Roger's Brady Manning, but one
Speaker 1: of the greatest ever. He number one. I think he
Speaker 1: was took it to a whole level. First of how
Speaker 1: he did it, and he was unbelievable and Brady and
Speaker 1: Rogers meant Breeze is another one. But I mean just
Speaker 1: the knowledge of the game and the approach and what
Speaker 1: Manning did is a high bar. But you're right about
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence as a skill set that Manning never had.
Speaker 1: And that's the athletic ability. Number one, just feet run.
Speaker 1: No one's gonna worry about Peyton Manning running away from you,
Speaker 1: and there are throws he makes that are just different.
Speaker 1: He has he has this, he has a he has
Speaker 1: a arm that will remind you of the Always the Rogers,
Speaker 1: the Farbs. Um, we think it's he has the accuracy
Speaker 1: to we got to see that over probably a larger
Speaker 1: ask you because you were a big lay fan. Aren't
Speaker 1: the same as always lays arm? Yeah? Yeah, that's hard
Speaker 1: because I was a kid when I watched it, so
Speaker 1: like her, I remember when you're a kid. But he
Speaker 1: Trevor reminds me. I don't think he's as thick as
Speaker 1: Elway was big, but he but he's John was like
Speaker 1: the first like super athletic guy who played the position
Speaker 1: that way anier throw in an era where no one
Speaker 1: wanted you to leave the pocket. Um, Trevor has that
Speaker 1: type of same athletic a bill as as John Elway.
Speaker 1: I mean different. You know, it's hard to compare. But
Speaker 1: the question that I think the next thing I want
Speaker 1: to see, which I think we've seen in practice, is
Speaker 1: he consistently accurate. Because what makes all those guys great,
Speaker 1: the Rogers, the Bradies, the Mannings, the Breeze, is they're
Speaker 1: deadly accurate. They can put the ball where it needs
Speaker 1: to be has sort of done it, and we saw
Speaker 1: it on the throw to Marvin Jones Jr. When he
Speaker 1: doesn't look open really, but he throws it high in
Speaker 1: a place where he almost throws him open um. And
Speaker 1: that's a gift necessarily, even with the time he had.
Speaker 1: That is a difficult You have to see it and
Speaker 1: you have to react. Anyone wants to practice, that's right.
Speaker 1: At least are you gonna say because I I want
Speaker 1: to bring up a topic that happen in practice today?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna stay one more if you want me to?
Speaker 1: But yeah, i'd like you to. Your name's on the walls.
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Speaker 1: The effort plus two mentality we're talking about. Just take
Speaker 1: a look at the tape, you know. The one thing
Speaker 1: we made some mistakes, but we were physical, okay, and
Speaker 1: we had you look at the tackles. Seven eight guys
Speaker 1: on the ball every time the run went to the sideline,
Speaker 1: the one miles there, shoot the next one to the sideline.
Speaker 1: We had seventy eight black and tailed jersey there and
Speaker 1: that was great. Some of the things I'd like to
Speaker 1: improve on. You know, obviously right before the half, winning
Speaker 1: that two minute drill, we go in, we win that drill,
Speaker 1: we get the ball coming back. Now we get out
Speaker 1: and score. We're winning the game right there. So those
Speaker 1: are some things. Tackling was pretty good. We had a
Speaker 1: couple of miss tackles. On one one play there they
Speaker 1: had a swing route the corner missed it. Not leverage,
Speaker 1: but for the most part the physicality really liked in
Speaker 1: the effort. Joe Cullen, Jaguars defensive coordinator. Hear that voice,
Speaker 1: you know instantly who it is, Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy
Speaker 1: our JP, Adrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Brisco is not here.
Speaker 1: He is in Minnesota covering cares where he is. No
Speaker 1: one cares where John Osiers here though it's a rating spike,
Speaker 1: you know, he touched on it there. Joe Cullen, the
Speaker 1: physicality of the Jaguars defense on Saturday night, presented that, Um,
Speaker 1: what about today's practice, John? They were out there in
Speaker 1: full pads today. It felt like there was a little
Speaker 1: urgency after we heard Urban talk this morning about some
Speaker 1: of those things we've discussed already, the tempo and things
Speaker 1: like that. What was it. I don't think they were.
Speaker 1: They weren't, you know, doing Oklahoma drills or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But those are almost against the law, they are, I think.
Speaker 1: But what do you think of practice today and all that?
Speaker 1: It was more physical than your you know, normal two
Speaker 1: days after a game. At the same time, they're still
Speaker 1: in camp mode until I guess at the end of
Speaker 1: this week, so it's not entirely usual them to be hitting.
Speaker 1: I don't overlay it, but it was. At first. I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure because they had the installation period maybe seven
Speaker 1: periods in and I was sort of used to some
Speaker 1: more live stuff in period six or seven, whatever it was.
Speaker 1: But as time went on, it felt like a training
Speaker 1: camp practice. I was it a punishment practice. I didn't
Speaker 1: get that field but they hit I mean, which in
Speaker 1: it's the game of day and age, that's the game
Speaker 1: of football. You're supposed to hit well. But in this
Speaker 1: day and age, you don't always get that much done.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like it was back in the
Speaker 1: seventies when you play leather helmets. Um. Well, first, I
Speaker 1: think Joe was right. I thought the defense was physical, um,
Speaker 1: especially against the run, and I think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: better against the run. As far as days practiced, I
Speaker 1: wasn't out there another engagement, um, But I did hear
Speaker 1: um through Twitter and talking to people that the offensive
Speaker 1: line did gassers afterwards. Was there some like punishment that
Speaker 1: they do something wrong? Um? That I don't know was
Speaker 1: that did? They were running? They ran afterward, but they
Speaker 1: were the only group right. Yes, And in my in
Speaker 1: my experience as offensive linement, anytime we had to run
Speaker 1: after practice, it was due to poor play penalties, be
Speaker 1: a fight that I started. Didn't Doug run the whole
Speaker 1: team in the past like at the end of the Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was that was the first training camp that
Speaker 1: kind of like and then we won and they kind
Speaker 1: of went away. Yeah, I mean there was, but I mean,
Speaker 1: certainly running any other, if any practice, I've never seen.
Speaker 1: I've never seen one group one group run. I mean
Speaker 1: I've been in my history of playing football, I've been
Speaker 1: a part of the one group that's running. And the reason,
Speaker 1: yeah there was usually we did something poorly. Um, I
Speaker 1: was just curious, no sense of why that happened. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was at very talent of practice. And Urban did
Speaker 1: not talk after and and Joe Colin talked and he
Speaker 1: doesn't coach offensive. They were assumptions made. I don't follow
Speaker 1: at a p. Mark long for the assumptions. Mark, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I know there was something with pads or pants or
Speaker 1: some it was like pants gate. It was not pants skate.
Speaker 1: I don't think. I didn't see any of that happen
Speaker 1: with my own two eyes, So that's why I don't
Speaker 1: know either. But I just thought it was interesting. Well,
Speaker 1: and I only bring it up because there was pants gate.
Speaker 1: It might be it might be a thing hashtag pants gate.
Speaker 1: Put that out there, I would see what's that trend
Speaker 1: on trend? Because I only bring it up because after
Speaker 1: the game. And again, if you follow Twitter, sports talk radio,
Speaker 1: all everything reporting after the game, if you'd asked, tell
Speaker 1: me that the unit that most underperformed. Everybody was all
Speaker 1: over the old line, killing the offensive line. Now, what
Speaker 1: was you're the ex lineman? I thought in several cases
Speaker 1: Trevor clearly held the ball too much, which led to
Speaker 1: Lisa one of the first half sacks. And then going
Speaker 1: back and watching yesterday, I thought there were a lot
Speaker 1: more plays where that they played. Okay, been disastrous, but
Speaker 1: your judge in your disastrous overall, what do you think
Speaker 1: well as an offensive line? And unfortunately, all anyone remembers
Speaker 1: is the bad place. That's all remembers. And let you know,
Speaker 1: so just get used to it. It's part of life. Um,
Speaker 1: you know A j kN gave him an early sack.
Speaker 1: After that, I thought he played good. I mean it
Speaker 1: was the first play the game. It's preseason. Stuff happens.
Speaker 1: But I thought he was really physical and he had
Speaker 1: a great year last year. I thought Linda was fine,
Speaker 1: typical Linder. I think Bart has always to go still.
Speaker 1: I still think his feet are an issue. He gets
Speaker 1: the guys get on the edge a little bit. Is
Speaker 1: he better better? Yes, and improving to the point where
Speaker 1: he can be the swing guy. Well he won't be.
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not as good shall at this point
Speaker 1: I would put Shatley in first. But he's training in
Speaker 1: the right direction. I mean, you can see he's working.
Speaker 1: It's a project. I mean it was about um. I
Speaker 1: thought the right tackle was just okay at best, Like
Speaker 1: jo Wan Taylor, guys get on the edge too much.
Speaker 1: It's just too close and in the in the pockets,
Speaker 1: get squeezed and even make the quarterback uncomfortable. Um I
Speaker 1: thought Cam was fine, but he was. I mean, don't
Speaker 1: forget these were the backups too. It's not like Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett was out there or like there was a bunch
Speaker 1: of backups. Now you were blocking some guys that might
Speaker 1: even be on the team, and so um I thought
Speaker 1: Cam was fine. Nothing. But you know, now the story
Speaker 1: of camp has been Walker Little uh Urban mentioned a
Speaker 1: JP was out there that he thought he struggled a
Speaker 1: little bit with his hands. I thought terrible and terrible.
Speaker 1: I thought they were awful. I think walking by the
Speaker 1: way I think I said here, I think Walker Little
Speaker 1: will be a good player. I think he has the
Speaker 1: potential to be a great player. I think it will
Speaker 1: be a good player. I think we have to be
Speaker 1: careful of anointing guys after a couple of practices, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the media around this place, you know,
Speaker 1: in this city. I mean he started tweeting out that
Speaker 1: he's like the you know, some brick wall that's just
Speaker 1: dominating people. And the practice I've seen he's been good,
Speaker 1: and Urban has been effusive in his praise. And he's
Speaker 1: a young player who's getting better. And he hasn't playing
Speaker 1: a lot of football. He's been out because of you know,
Speaker 1: COVID and injuries, um, and everything I love about him,
Speaker 1: he has naturally he's big, he's powerful. He's a naturally
Speaker 1: big person. He's not like trying to be big. He's
Speaker 1: just big. He's athletic, good feet, Um, he's powerful. I
Speaker 1: thought he ran back very well last I mean two
Speaker 1: nights ago. I thought he's just physical pass walking, his
Speaker 1: feet were good. I think he needs to work on
Speaker 1: the sets. He sets himself up. He makes it harder
Speaker 1: on himself than he needs to. When you have a
Speaker 1: three step drop and you're dropping deep, go get the guy,
Speaker 1: go be physical. Um. And I just think his hands
Speaker 1: were awful. I mean, he just he's not he doesn't
Speaker 1: like at times it looks like he doesn't know what
Speaker 1: to do with his hands and they're just low and
Speaker 1: they're late, and he just and here's the great thing something.
Speaker 1: But the great thing about it is and so I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to because I'm a believer. I think he
Speaker 1: has the pencil. I think he has opportunity be good.
Speaker 1: I think if I'm a betting man, I would bet
Speaker 1: money Walker Little is a starting left tackle for ten
Speaker 1: years and a good player. If I get the right odds,
Speaker 1: I'll bet money that he's a great player because he
Speaker 1: has that ability. And one of the things, even as
Speaker 1: bad as his hands were, like, guys would just run
Speaker 1: into him and they wouldn't get there because he's just
Speaker 1: big and he's powerful and like so, which is good.
Speaker 1: It didn't have to be perfect for him to block
Speaker 1: the guy. Now again, he might be blocking the guy
Speaker 1: who's an accountant in two weeks now. Hands are everything.
Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of defensive linemen over the years.
Speaker 1: You tell me on their side, hands take time to
Speaker 1: develop the fundamentals you need. Same true in the offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, is this a long term thing. It takes
Speaker 1: a long time to learn. I mean, you'll get bad.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be perfect this year, but you know
Speaker 1: that stuff I'm talking about just like, get him out
Speaker 1: of the defensive lines. Hands in the way, just I
Speaker 1: mean in front of you, and I actually so for
Speaker 1: offensive line play, the most important thing is feet. You.
Speaker 1: I say all the time, you block people with your
Speaker 1: feet if you're trying to block people with your hands,
Speaker 1: or because you start reaching and leaning and everything else,
Speaker 1: It's all about body position and feet. So block people
Speaker 1: with your feet. He has those feet. I think he
Speaker 1: can clean some of it up, thinking help himself out
Speaker 1: with some of the sets, all stuff that if you
Speaker 1: don't have that, you're never be great. Yeah, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: He's just those are things you figure out. The hands
Speaker 1: is where you you have to have heavy, strong hands
Speaker 1: is where you create your separation and create space and
Speaker 1: give yourself a chance to win. Um. And that's just
Speaker 1: you know, he's not He's got work to do. But
Speaker 1: that's okay. He's a rookie. He's a rookie like me
Speaker 1: saying he had awful hands. It's not like I have
Speaker 1: the highest respect lines, headlines, species, walk a little, I
Speaker 1: have high streets back for him. I could argue he's
Speaker 1: your second best taco. Right now. There you go. We'll
Speaker 1: end with that. John thanks for jumping on today with
Speaker 1: us down the wall. I've heard of it. We'll look
Speaker 1: forward to your writing coming up this week on Jaguars
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Speaker 1: ten ten XL home of the Jacksonville Jaguars, I'm looking
Speaker 1: up in her as that my gosh, we're in the
Speaker 1: middle of the second quarter and we've had three drives.
Speaker 1: I think you know, college have three drives in the
Speaker 1: first quarter or the fourth or you know, if you're
Speaker 1: really cooking. Um, So that's I knew that, but it
Speaker 1: was now that I did it. It's on your quick
Speaker 1: it is indeed, Urban. That's the head coach Urban Meyer.
Speaker 1: Some of the adjustments he in his first NFL game
Speaker 1: this past Saturday night, the Jaguars fell to the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Brown's welcome back at Jaguars Happy ur j P. Shaddrick
Speaker 1: Tony was SELLI no Pete Brisco this week he should
Speaker 1: be back with us and a couple of weeks we're
Speaker 1: off next week because of well, there's a Jaguars football
Speaker 1: game Monday night, the Jags and the Saints at the
Speaker 1: Caesar's Superdome in New Orleans. Eight o'clock is the kickoff
Speaker 1: time Eastern, and we'll go on the air at five o'clock.
Speaker 1: Five o'clock is three hours before eight. That's the public
Speaker 1: tailgate show at five o'clock next Monday, ahead of the
Speaker 1: eight o'clock kick off the Jags and the Saints. That's
Speaker 1: coming up. That a lot of this, and Urban has
Speaker 1: been pretty transparent throughout this offseason about some of the
Speaker 1: things he doesn't know about the NFL and leaning on
Speaker 1: some of his assistants and the flow of the game
Speaker 1: as part of that too, right, I mean he just
Speaker 1: said it there. Some of these offenses in college these
Speaker 1: days are flying down the field. The clock stops, you know,
Speaker 1: in certain situations in college it doesn't in pro and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden the game creeps away. If you
Speaker 1: can't get off the field, you look up at the
Speaker 1: clock and the quarters over you haven't had a ball. Well,
Speaker 1: they gave up a It's incredible, right plays. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I don't care where you are, You're gonna be
Speaker 1: out there for a while. Yeah, now there'll be adjustments,
Speaker 1: but like two minutes I almost won. I almost wonder
Speaker 1: sometimes JP is not that he I know he's learning,
Speaker 1: but is it also Urban trying to communicate, Hey, we're
Speaker 1: all this together. We're you know, learning together, even though
Speaker 1: like I get the sense and I don't know this
Speaker 1: that urbans like, listen, I know this stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: I've won a few Natties. I mean everywhere I go wins.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know what I'm doing, guys, but you know,
Speaker 1: if he comes across that it's a no win for him.
Speaker 1: And if he comes across it's like, yeah, I'm learning,
Speaker 1: Like this is new, this is different, and it is,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's that big a deal. Like
Speaker 1: I don't think like Urban sweating it at night going
Speaker 1: We'll have this challenge situation. I need to got this
Speaker 1: red flag? What do I do? Where do I keep
Speaker 1: this thing? I don't know my sock? Is there? Two
Speaker 1: minutes Lucks running and doesn't stop. Is the field? Is
Speaker 1: it the hash marks? Oh my gosh. Because it's not
Speaker 1: like he's a Remember he's not a course. He's never
Speaker 1: been a coordinator and either said the ball. He's just
Speaker 1: a leader, he's just a head coach, he's a CEO.
Speaker 1: So it's not like if you're maybe an offensive coordinator's
Speaker 1: never been at the NFL game and always been college,
Speaker 1: then the hash marks might be a bigger deal. Right,
Speaker 1: the mechanics of Colin plays in over the headset would
Speaker 1: be different. But he's not doing any of that. He's
Speaker 1: guys who've already done it before. So it is a
Speaker 1: learning experience and I and I do appreciate urbans like
Speaker 1: willingness to have some transparency of saying this is like,
Speaker 1: I'm figuring this out a little bit. But I just
Speaker 1: get the sense because he's so smart, I mean to
Speaker 1: dude smart, not like he hasn't thought all those things
Speaker 1: the job an. So I mean, the guy is impressive.
Speaker 1: And I wait a minute, the hash marks are different
Speaker 1: and that wasn't in the brochure. The world flag. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, man, but yeah, the guy
Speaker 1: won of his games. The dude wins translates here, that
Speaker 1: would be a pretty that might be would winning eighty
Speaker 1: percent of the games be pretty good? That might be
Speaker 1: an all time record. I think that'd be good. I mean,
Speaker 1: i'd have to go look it up, but I guess
Speaker 1: over a hundred names. If so, I think it would
Speaker 1: be just fine. But yeah, it's you know, I was
Speaker 1: interested in hearing him after the game. You know, um
Speaker 1: how he's going to react to a situation like that,
Speaker 1: because he said going into the game, he understands the
Speaker 1: result of the score. Okay, you want to win, but
Speaker 1: there's you want to win plays and win one on
Speaker 1: one matchups and every rep. But that didn't happen either.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Wasn't all that we you know, wee
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard and then if you step back, and
Speaker 1: I always say players and coaches, no, like I knew
Speaker 1: when I went into a preseason game that sounds it's
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Speaker 1: like three nothing and we had two series. But you
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Speaker 1: Weekdays on ten ten x L. We were starting to
Speaker 1: kind of settle in there a little bit. I thought.
Speaker 1: The guys that came in later in the game did great. Um,
Speaker 1: Cleveland did a good job. Big Zone team, the match
Speaker 1: us pretty well. But now, I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: the first time out there, I felt comfortable, felt poised. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the first play is not kind of what you want
Speaker 1: for the first play, But after that, I thought, I
Speaker 1: thought we did a good job. We communicated well up front,
Speaker 1: they did a really good job with protection. Uh at
Speaker 1: least one of those sackses on me for sure, just
Speaker 1: holding the ball too long, So that's something I'll work on,
Speaker 1: and just maneuvering in the pocket. It's something I've always,
Speaker 1: you know, always gotta work on. So other than that,
Speaker 1: I missed missing easy one um to Marvin, a little
Speaker 1: quick out that I wish I would have hit. But
Speaker 1: other than that, I felt I felt good out there.
Speaker 1: I thought we were seeing it all on the same page.
Speaker 1: And there's obviously things to clean up, but I thought
Speaker 1: it was a pretty good day. Reverd Lawrence after Saturday
Speaker 1: Night's preseason opener, his debut in the preseason of his
Speaker 1: rookie campaign. Welcome in. It's the second hour of Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco is
Speaker 1: out this week. Can be back with us in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yes, Tony, you're raising me. Tell you what,
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, smartman, smart man, you want to win over
Speaker 1: your offensive alignment. Take the put the sack on. It
Speaker 1: was on me. I held, I held it you long.
Speaker 1: They did a great job. Kudos you perfect, Mr Lawrence.
Speaker 1: That that is gonna get you brownie points in the
Speaker 1: offensive line. That and get a good gift for Christmas.
Speaker 1: You'll be set all that. Plenty of dinner everyone, while
Speaker 1: plenty ahead on Jaguars Happy Hour, including your social questions
Speaker 1: coming up. Let's go to our good friend Greg Cosell.
Speaker 1: He is with the NFL Film Senior producer NFL Matchup
Speaker 1: on ESPN. The executive producer and analysts there, and Greg,
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with us today on Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: Good to see you and talk to you. And you
Speaker 1: know we're gonna go through some quarterbacks around the league.
Speaker 1: But Jacksonville folks finally got a chance to see the
Speaker 1: long blond locks of Trevor Lawrence wearing teal, which is
Speaker 1: always fun. Well, you know what, guys, it's great to
Speaker 1: be with you. And I'm gonna start off by asking
Speaker 1: Tony a question. So, Tony coaches coach. Do they coach
Speaker 1: for guys to be just okay, our average or to
Speaker 1: do it the right way all the time? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, Greg, you know as well as I do.
Speaker 1: The good coaches demand the best, and I agree with
Speaker 1: you we were talking off their The coach's job is
Speaker 1: to get the most out of the player is and
Speaker 1: you do that two ways. You put them in the
Speaker 1: best possible position to have success. In number two, you
Speaker 1: ask them to do perform at the level you believe
Speaker 1: they can achieve, not where they are, not where they're comfortable.
Speaker 1: You take them to a level where it's uncomfortable and
Speaker 1: you ask them to reach there. And any player worth
Speaker 1: their salt, we'll tell you that's what they want. It's
Speaker 1: it's not always pleasant. It's not fun, especially depending on
Speaker 1: the personality of the coaches. You know, aren't as nice
Speaker 1: as others. But that's what you want. That's what coaching
Speaker 1: is about. Well, it's funny you say that, because I
Speaker 1: was really fortunate in my career to learn the quarterback
Speaker 1: position from Bill Walsh, and the way he taught it
Speaker 1: was that you do it the right way every single time.
Speaker 1: So when I watch a quarterback, that's the way I
Speaker 1: think about it. I don't and obviously it's the first performance,
Speaker 1: but that's that should not be totally relevant because it's
Speaker 1: being coached, it's being taught, and you want to go
Speaker 1: out there and you want to see not only the
Speaker 1: quarterback everybody. But obviously we're gonna talk quarterbacks and Trevor Lawrence. Um,
Speaker 1: you want to see it done right all the time.
Speaker 1: So if you'd like to do that, I certainly could. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so great, let's talk about that. I mean, as
Speaker 1: you look at Trevor Lawrence, I mean, obviously, I know
Speaker 1: you watch a lot of film, you know, of these
Speaker 1: guys in college leading up to the NFL draft, and
Speaker 1: you watch a ton of pro games and break that
Speaker 1: down with your responsibilities. Give us a breakdown of what
Speaker 1: you saw and and doing a lot of what you
Speaker 1: were expecting. We know it's the first preseason game, but
Speaker 1: as you said, do you know you gotta do it
Speaker 1: right all the time if you want to be great. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought where he was really good was there were
Speaker 1: some spot throws to the outside. He hit Um Jones
Speaker 1: I think for ten yards on third and nine. I
Speaker 1: think that was the first series it was. It was
Speaker 1: a ten yard out that was a spot throw. That's
Speaker 1: more of an execution throw than a read throw. Um.
Speaker 1: He also hit a spot throw another time in the game,
Speaker 1: I think probably saying what played two series? Was it? Yes,
Speaker 1: I think you're probably thinking on these, uh, the the
Speaker 1: one the man hurts on the on the sit route
Speaker 1: just um. Yeah, there were there were two spot throws
Speaker 1: that they he showed a strong sense of timing because
Speaker 1: those are throws. I remember work, you know, with Ron
Speaker 1: Jaworski for years and years, one of my best friends,
Speaker 1: and he would tell me that there were certain throws
Speaker 1: that based on the timing of the drop and and
Speaker 1: the throw, that he could throw blindfolded because their spot throws,
Speaker 1: their timing throws, and I thought Lawrence for a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: really did a good job with those. That was That
Speaker 1: was a real positive Um he talked about and I
Speaker 1: know what you said, Tony about the old line. The
Speaker 1: first sack was on Lawrence the first play of the game.
Speaker 1: He was slow to eliminate and isolate Um. The read
Speaker 1: was to the left side. He stayed focused on slot
Speaker 1: receiver Jones far too long. He had channel opened on
Speaker 1: the in breaker to the read side. The Browns were
Speaker 1: had a five man rush, they played cover one. The
Speaker 1: throw should have been to Chanult. He just stayed on
Speaker 1: Jones too long. First play, probably to be expected, but
Speaker 1: again something now to teach and to work on. Great
Speaker 1: cous with us from NFL films and ESPN's NFL matchup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback, having that that clock in your
Speaker 1: head of you know when to get rid of this thing,
Speaker 1: not to hold it too long. How much How long
Speaker 1: does that take for a quarterback to figure that out? Greg, Well,
Speaker 1: there's reasons, jp Y quarterbacks hold it too long. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's truly because the coverage winds. For instance, the second
Speaker 1: sack came on a shot play out of twelve personnel,
Speaker 1: one back, two tight ends. It was conventional play action
Speaker 1: with Lawrence under center. It was mirrored crosses by Jones
Speaker 1: and Johnson. It was seven man pass bro which tells
Speaker 1: you what your shot play. They're looking to get him
Speaker 1: on a deep drop. They want to throw the ball
Speaker 1: down the field and a t N released late into
Speaker 1: the flat. The Browns took it away with cover three.
Speaker 1: There was no throw to be made. Now, could you
Speaker 1: sit here and say you could throw it into the
Speaker 1: flat maybe, but there was truly no throw to be made.
Speaker 1: Um another play that I think is something you really
Speaker 1: want to work on. And by the way, this is
Speaker 1: very common with the young quarterbacks. It was the third
Speaker 1: it in four play that ended the first possession where
Speaker 1: he threw it to Chinault on the slot out route
Speaker 1: uh and it was incomplete obviously because they punted. He
Speaker 1: drifted into the pressure. He drifted instead of staying on
Speaker 1: the mid line and giving himself an opportunity to make
Speaker 1: a clean throw. Trevor drifted to his left right behind.
Speaker 1: I guess it was Cam Robinson, the left tackle, and
Speaker 1: he created his own pressure, so he made it a
Speaker 1: more difficult throw than it was now. Antonio will understand
Speaker 1: this because someone will probably say Cam Johnson didn't do
Speaker 1: a good job, but Trevor drifted into him and it
Speaker 1: made it tougher for for Camera Robinson and to make
Speaker 1: the block. Yeah, Camp, it wasn't Cam's falter. You're exactly right, Greg.
Speaker 1: There was a little bit of a soft pocket by
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor on the right side, and so in Trevor
Speaker 1: felt that and started drifting back backwards into the left.
Speaker 1: If you would have stepped up and took it about
Speaker 1: two shovels to the left, there was a there was
Speaker 1: space there where he could have sat there for an
Speaker 1: extra click and then be able to throw the ball
Speaker 1: with his feet set. And that's what and those are things.
Speaker 1: And he even mentioned it, I gotta be better in
Speaker 1: the pocket. And that's what you see young quarterbacks do
Speaker 1: all the time. They go backwards instead of forwards. Heck,
Speaker 1: Patrick Homes still does it, but he has such a
Speaker 1: special arm he gets away with it. Somehow he backs
Speaker 1: up the fifty yards and just throws it up. I
Speaker 1: have no idea how he gets with it. Not a
Speaker 1: offensive tackles nightmare, um. But the ones who are consistently
Speaker 1: great or they move forward, they climbed the pocket. You
Speaker 1: make a great point because don't forget too Lawrence was
Speaker 1: not under pressure very often in college. Um, he might
Speaker 1: have been under what I consider pressure. Everybody has their
Speaker 1: different sense of pressure, but I think of pressure in
Speaker 1: terms of the NFL. And I know Tony you would
Speaker 1: agree with this. You know, Uh, he wasn't really under
Speaker 1: pressure more than thirty five or forty past attempts at
Speaker 1: Clemson this past year. True pressure. So he has to
Speaker 1: get used to working out of a noisy, muddied pocket
Speaker 1: where there are people around him, but that's not really
Speaker 1: pressure by NFL standards. And you make a great point.
Speaker 1: The the response to that, if you're not used to
Speaker 1: it is to drift either sideways or backwards, and you
Speaker 1: cannot drift backwards in the NFL. You mentioned Mahomes. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to put that aside. He's just a different
Speaker 1: cat and he can make these throws that a lot
Speaker 1: of people can, but you cannot move backwards versus pressure
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Greg, you know you it's a great
Speaker 1: point and interesting, And you talked about the first play
Speaker 1: that was the sack fumble and that you know he
Speaker 1: held it a little bit long stayed on. Marvin Jones Jr.
Speaker 1: Should have got the channault. But you know, the positive
Speaker 1: for me on that play was he stood there tall
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Now he followed it, but he stood there.
Speaker 1: He wasn't getting nervous as it got crowded in there,
Speaker 1: and he was still looking down the field. He just
Speaker 1: didn't find the right person and didn't get off. But
Speaker 1: at least and you've seen this, and this is always
Speaker 1: worries me, is in that situation, eyes go down, you
Speaker 1: start getting happy feet, you're looking for an exit, and
Speaker 1: he didn't. I actually like the sack fumble. As an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman wouldn't liked it, but I appreciate in the
Speaker 1: evaluation here's the guy standing tall and is not getting
Speaker 1: nervous when everything's collapsing. Yeah, and I think that's a
Speaker 1: really good point because a lot of young quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: and and let's think of it this way, Well, Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence has mobility and as a plus athlete for a
Speaker 1: man that size. When all said and done, guys, he's
Speaker 1: going to make his bones in this league as a
Speaker 1: pocket player. Yes, does he have the ability to get outside?
Speaker 1: Can you run some design run game stuff with him?
Speaker 1: You can, but he's ultimately going to be a pocket quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I think that's a great point instead of just
Speaker 1: immediately playing the pocket, which is a hard thing to
Speaker 1: teach a guy to stay in the pocket if he
Speaker 1: doesn't have that natural trait to begin with, that's a
Speaker 1: hard thing to teach. And Tony, you're right, he didn't
Speaker 1: look to leave the pocket at any point in this game.
Speaker 1: Great coat with us from NFL Films, ESPNS NFL matchup
Speaker 1: as well. Uh, just going back to the college shape, Greg,
Speaker 1: I know you dug deep on this on all these
Speaker 1: quarterback prospects. How does his accuracy, arms strength, ability to
Speaker 1: push it down the field compared to some of the
Speaker 1: maybe the old time guys in those departments. Is he
Speaker 1: right up there near the top at least as a prospect. Well,
Speaker 1: let's j P. Let's take a step back from it here.
Speaker 1: I know that Keever came out with this idea that
Speaker 1: he was, you know, an all time or to start.
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's a talented kid. He's a
Speaker 1: big kid. There's no problem with his arm strength. That
Speaker 1: does he have an absolute gun I wouldn't say as
Speaker 1: a gun, but there's no problem with his arm strength.
Speaker 1: I think one thing that stood out and you didn't
Speaker 1: see it very often, but you asked me, you know,
Speaker 1: if he has any things that were concerning and it
Speaker 1: showed up two years ago in playoff games and even
Speaker 1: this year in a playoff game. Is he's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a strider when he throws his He's a
Speaker 1: body thrower, and he steps into his throws. So the
Speaker 1: one thing that you want to see is how he
Speaker 1: handles himself when there's pressure up the middle in his face, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, he's a step thrower, and at times
Speaker 1: in college that there were times that he struggled a bit.
Speaker 1: He'd hurry his mechanics and he would become a little
Speaker 1: scattered shot high. So again, I'm not gonna sit here
Speaker 1: and tell you that's a weakness and he can't play.
Speaker 1: But that's just something that I think you need to
Speaker 1: be aware of, and that's based purely on tape study.
Speaker 1: Gret go Sell with us. How about a few other
Speaker 1: debuts this week? In preseason Week one, Josh Fields had
Speaker 1: a day for the Bears. Trey Lance had a long
Speaker 1: past play, but he was five or fourteen. Zach Wilson
Speaker 1: got out there for the Jets. Mac Jones was fairly
Speaker 1: efficient for the Patriots. Which of those guys you think
Speaker 1: will have the most impact right away? Greg, Well, we
Speaker 1: know Zack Wilson's gonna start, so I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a question there. My guess is justin Fields will as well.
Speaker 1: But Zack Wilson, I think is in an offense that
Speaker 1: does fit what he brings to the table. It's really
Speaker 1: the forty Niners offense because Michael Floor, who's Matt's brother
Speaker 1: and who's with thet He's bringing the Kyle Shanahan offense,
Speaker 1: which features a lot of designed movement, and you can
Speaker 1: see that Wilson is comfortable with play action boot He's
Speaker 1: an easy thrower on the move, He's got light feet. Um,
Speaker 1: I think that this style of offense fits him well.
Speaker 1: So obviously there's other factors as to whether a quarterback
Speaker 1: succeeds or doesn't succeed, But I think that stylistically and
Speaker 1: and structurally, the offense that he's in with the Jets
Speaker 1: fits him. If you look at all the guys, Greg,
Speaker 1: last question for me that JP just talked about at
Speaker 1: some point this year, will all of them be starters
Speaker 1: in the NFL? Um? I mean, I'm sure Justin Fields
Speaker 1: will be sooner than later. Uh. I guess the Cam
Speaker 1: Newton situation would depend on how he plays, because I
Speaker 1: think there'll be a running football team playing with a
Speaker 1: lot of two tight ends. Um. I think Trey Lance
Speaker 1: depends on Garoppolo because Lance, you know, he had that
Speaker 1: long touchdown, which was a play they love. They've run
Speaker 1: it in the regular season with great success over the
Speaker 1: last number of years. Um. But Plants was very unsettled.
Speaker 1: He needs to be more settled in the pocket. He
Speaker 1: needs to calm down a bit. He threw the ball
Speaker 1: a little too hard on plays that required touch and pace.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. I would bet Garoppolo will end up starting,
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Speaker 1: the Niners have a good football team. We always learn
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Speaker 1: Home of the Checks in Bill. Jaguars camp was pretty solid.
Speaker 1: Jowan was a little we're working on some things. Bag.
Speaker 1: He had a great training camp, so we're we're good.
Speaker 1: He's just gotta uh, do not play great. The answering
Speaker 1: a question, they're play awful, didn't play great. A j
Speaker 1: camp played very solid, gave a one of pressure, but
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's been really solid all the way through.
Speaker 1: Lendar didn't play much obviously, Norwell has got one more
Speaker 1: week out. But Parts actually did okay in there. So
Speaker 1: we're developing that third guard which we need and the
Speaker 1: third tackle right now. Walker a little struggle, which he
Speaker 1: would and he's playing low hands for some reason, and
Speaker 1: it was on and really fast, so he's got to
Speaker 1: get a lot of reps. We're counting on him. And
Speaker 1: he had a really good training camp, so we gotta
Speaker 1: get him going. That's head coach urban Meyer discussing the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Welcome back to Jaguars, Happy our j P, Shadrick,
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Pete Brisco is out here. We'll be He'll
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Speaker 1: thanks to Greg Cosell, like great insight at the quarterback
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Speaker 1: we heard from urban Meyer there. That was this morning
Speaker 1: our first chance to catch up with the head coach
Speaker 1: since Saturday and his performance. So the question is Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson left tackle, Jowan Taylor right tackle, walk are a
Speaker 1: little You heard the head coach urban Mine right there,
Speaker 1: so they didn't really play struggled. He said, would you
Speaker 1: start giving little reps with the first team at some
Speaker 1: point and when would that be and would you at
Speaker 1: all I'm less worried about giving reps of the first team.
Speaker 1: I definitely would want him out there. Um, it could
Speaker 1: be a great opportunity against the Saints. Go get go,
Speaker 1: get some real defensive end work. And not that he
Speaker 1: hasn't in practice, I'm saying, but he didn't see real
Speaker 1: NFL defensive ends. I mean he saw guys who might
Speaker 1: be backups, were past walk guys, you know for the
Speaker 1: Browns because they were playing there down the long list.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna be on Monday Night football. You know,
Speaker 1: the Saints are gonna play their front front line guys.
Speaker 1: I'd get him reps against those guys. Um, let me
Speaker 1: go taste it, because he has a ton of ability.
Speaker 1: And Urban's right, he didn't have to have a great game. Now,
Speaker 1: the fighting thing is, it's not he got beat and
Speaker 1: got the quarterback killed. It was just his technique was terrible.
Speaker 1: His hands were off. He still got guys blocked, but
Speaker 1: it was it was ugly. And I think what Urban
Speaker 1: saying is a good player would have given him trouble,
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. Um, I agree with when a
Speaker 1: j can a J can's a good player. Linda didn't
Speaker 1: play a lot. I agree with that. Um. I think
Speaker 1: he was Um I'll give him the Bennett. I'll agree
Speaker 1: with him from the standpoint of what he's seen in
Speaker 1: Jowan Taylor because he's watching a lot more than I
Speaker 1: have during Camp. But I would agree with him on
Speaker 1: the assessment of how Juwan played in the game. Not great. Um,
Speaker 1: what do you say about Cam? He thought camp played
Speaker 1: really well. He thought he played well. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: he played fine. Yeah. I mean it wasn't dominating or anything. Um,
Speaker 1: he played fine. I would agree that. So yeah, But
Speaker 1: Walker Little, I want to get him reps. I want
Speaker 1: to put pressure on Juwan Taylor and Cam Robinson and
Speaker 1: I want to see and Walker and he he needs reps.
Speaker 1: It's circle all the way back to what I said
Speaker 1: at the beginning about who plays how much they play.
Speaker 1: Trevis Lawrence needs Trevor Trevor Trevor Trevor Lawrence Brother. We've
Speaker 1: got to head myself with ETI Uh, Trevor Lawrence needs reps,
Speaker 1: Eten needs reps, Tyson Campbell needs reps, Walker Little needs reps.
Speaker 1: The rookies, if you're gonna count on them and you're
Speaker 1: gonna expect production out of them this year to help
Speaker 1: you win games, they need reps. You can't give him enough.
Speaker 1: And I love the fact that Urban kept Walker little
Speaker 1: at left tackle for three quarters. He was out there
Speaker 1: a long times. Good for him a long time. Now
Speaker 1: give I want to see him get some reps, you know,
Speaker 1: with that first unit against the top the uh you know,
Speaker 1: the top rushers from the Saints. Walker was one of
Speaker 1: the top. He was actually the guy who played the
Speaker 1: most place, plays the place, you know, in the regular season.
Speaker 1: To play sixty seventy I understand that I'm just saying
Speaker 1: in that and that's how much he played. I agree,
Speaker 1: But my point is he needs reps. I mean, I
Speaker 1: haven't played in two years, and he's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: It'll be good. So I think Urban was I think
Speaker 1: Airban's assessment, um was was a fair one. I think
Speaker 1: he was pretty honest there, which he typically is with
Speaker 1: the players. I think, so, yeah, yeah, all right, there
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Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know, so much of the
Speaker 1: first game was I mean the conversation we had about
Speaker 1: only get him a series, only get ten plays and um,
Speaker 1: And I think it was a great learning lesson that.
Speaker 1: You know, it's called a plan to win. When you
Speaker 1: start the game and they go right down to field,
Speaker 1: pick a field goal and we knock it out to
Speaker 1: the eight team. I think it's a ten yard line.
Speaker 1: And the worst penalty in football is when you see
Speaker 1: that none of your offense is backed up. And so
Speaker 1: just talking about how the every drive council, that's when
Speaker 1: you're only talking about sixty plays three hours of football.
Speaker 1: That's the big change for a lot of players and coaches.
Speaker 1: You only getting a couple of drives a half, you know,
Speaker 1: or in ecology, you know your eight ninety plays a
Speaker 1: lot of times. So every play's gotta count, every drive's
Speaker 1: gotta count. Urban Meyer earlier today and welcome back Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick, Tony Baselli no beat Brisco
Speaker 1: tonight and it's time for social media questions. Tony, it's
Speaker 1: your favorite time of each and every show where we
Speaker 1: dig into the mail bag. We put out the bat
Speaker 1: signal earlier today on social media and here are the
Speaker 1: best that we've come up. My favorite segment. We've got
Speaker 1: a bunch of them tonight, Number one tonight from at
Speaker 1: General of Duval. Should C. J. Henderson start Week one?
Speaker 1: No idea, It's way too early. Um. I think he's
Speaker 1: been out with a total of three practices full at
Speaker 1: patent Um, so let's give it some time, pretty straight.
Speaker 1: But going into the game Saturday, out there again today,
Speaker 1: which is great. He was rees today. It's a better
Speaker 1: team if C. J. Henderson's you're starting corner because he's
Speaker 1: a good football player, but you have to be available. Um,
Speaker 1: he's had some off the field issue. When I say issues,
Speaker 1: it's you know, we're not sure what they are, but
Speaker 1: he's had some sort of health issues, whether it's the
Speaker 1: betterment of like physical health, mental health. I have no idea,
Speaker 1: and by the way, it's none of my business. It's
Speaker 1: none of any of our business until it does. You know,
Speaker 1: if you can't play, then they'll let us know why.
Speaker 1: But all I know is we're a better team with
Speaker 1: him out there. And he played well in the first
Speaker 1: preseason game. He showed his ability, had the one miss tackle.
Speaker 1: But you haven't had that many reps out there. I'm
Speaker 1: not overly concerned with that. Had a couple of past breakups. Um,
Speaker 1: I like our secondary. If he started in one corner,
Speaker 1: you got Shakie Griffin at the other, and you have
Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell's your nickel. Pretty good, pretty good right there,
Speaker 1: pretty athletic, pretty fast. Let's see how the rest of
Speaker 1: camp and the preseason goes with him. Next question at
Speaker 1: s Boss seven, can Tony see pushing Taylor inside the
Speaker 1: right guard since Adalis had him doing better there because
Speaker 1: of his power instead of footwork, pushing Cam to right tackle,
Speaker 1: and putting Walker at left tackle since he was literally
Speaker 1: like a wall Saturday night. I think at most I
Speaker 1: saw him getting pushed three to four steps back. That's
Speaker 1: a long series of thoughts. Yeah, so one Walker Little
Speaker 1: is a big man in physical but we talked about
Speaker 1: he has a lot of work to do. I do
Speaker 1: think he ultimately can be a start will be a
Speaker 1: starting tackle here we left or right, Um, because he
Speaker 1: has that kind of talent. He's athletic, he's powerful, he's
Speaker 1: a naturally big man. Um. I'm not sure why you
Speaker 1: would move um Juwan Taylor into right guard when maybe
Speaker 1: the guy who played the best football in any of
Speaker 1: your offensive line and last year was a J. Cannon
Speaker 1: and a J Cann Everyone's gonna pay attention to first
Speaker 1: play where if the ball is out on time, it's
Speaker 1: late pressure, ball was held, end up getting a sack.
Speaker 1: Um offensive line is always gonna get blamed for it,
Speaker 1: even if it's not completely their fault. Go watch the
Speaker 1: rest of the game. Every play from that he was
Speaker 1: pretty much physically domin He was very good last year.
Speaker 1: A J Can's went your best offensive lignment. So no,
Speaker 1: I'm not moving Jwan Taylor inside to take a J
Speaker 1: Can's job. They want to start to write and now
Speaker 1: if you wanted to move Cam to right tackle and
Speaker 1: go compete with Juwan Taylor, because you wanted to walk
Speaker 1: a little possibly later this year. Walker little's got to
Speaker 1: get better right now, He's not. He's not better than
Speaker 1: Cam a left tackle at this point today, right this
Speaker 1: seconds not based one we saw on the tape. Could
Speaker 1: he could? He could be better at right than Juwan
Speaker 1: right now? I don't know, tell me when I see it, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean all you can go buy is the tape,
Speaker 1: not what we want, not what you hope not you're
Speaker 1: based on your bias or your feelings or whether I
Speaker 1: did last year did or you didn't like either, Like
Speaker 1: so if I watched the tape, can perform better than
Speaker 1: walk a little? Okay? Camp should play? Next question from
Speaker 1: at the Underschool Jacks fans six one five on d
Speaker 1: how did the run fits look on tape? We all
Speaker 1: believe it will be crucial to stop the run, not
Speaker 1: only this year, but every year. Hashtag go Jags. You
Speaker 1: know what, You're right, It is crucial to stop the run,
Speaker 1: not only this year, whatever year. If I were to
Speaker 1: get Jacks fan six one five on the phone or
Speaker 1: the Underscore Jacks fan six one five on the phone
Speaker 1: and asked him to give me the definition of a
Speaker 1: run fick, what does he What does that mean? I
Speaker 1: know what it means, but I'm saying, dude, do you
Speaker 1: think he knows that a run like J What if
Speaker 1: that's actually you know, like the linebacker coach China. If
Speaker 1: I would ask you JP, give me a description of
Speaker 1: run fits the way I understand it, it's fitting the
Speaker 1: gaps up front. So everybody has a gap top. So
Speaker 1: if you're a one if you're one gap defense, it's
Speaker 1: so if I'm the one technique and my responsibility is
Speaker 1: the front side a gap, I'm run fitting into that gap.
Speaker 1: If it's a two gap defense, it's different because now
Speaker 1: I'm reading the man and I'm playing two very simple
Speaker 1: So okay, um, overall run fits, Um I did. I'll
Speaker 1: be honestly, I didn't study the defense that first Sea
Speaker 1: where I watched like every single play and watched the
Speaker 1: I watched individual play more than anything for this first
Speaker 1: preseason game. Typically, the way I watched the preseason is
Speaker 1: watched individuals. Less about scheme UM, more individual. I thought
Speaker 1: Von Hamilton's very good. I thought, um dwant Smoot played
Speaker 1: the solid game, Malcolm Brown flashed, had some good players,
Speaker 1: got in the backfield UM twelve times for fifteen yards
Speaker 1: on the first half. Robertson, Robertson, Roy Robertson, Harris, Robertson,
Speaker 1: Harris Um, Robertson, Harris, Roy Robertson, Harris. I know, I'm
Speaker 1: just calling by his last name, just like I called
Speaker 1: Brown by his last name, and like I called Hamilton
Speaker 1: by his last names. Have two last names, Robertson, We
Speaker 1: has double last names. Right, go ahead, so didn't count.
Speaker 1: Just as if it's that's a great question, it's all
Speaker 1: one word. If it's hyphens, it's one name. Robinson, Harris, Robertson.
Speaker 1: That's why I said Robinson er Okay, go ahead, Robertson,
Speaker 1: we know who you're talking about. Okay, since you say it, then,
Speaker 1: Roy Robertson, Harris, Robertson, Harris, thank you. That's what I
Speaker 1: said the first time. Good job. You know you're really
Speaker 1: being mean spirited. I wish we had Pete back here. Robertson, Harris.
Speaker 1: Um was good and solid and physical and big. Um.
Speaker 1: None of the guys I mentioned are great pass rushers.
Speaker 1: Might means wants by the best of them, I thought,
Speaker 1: Chas and some good run you know they've got pass rushing.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen had some good pass rushes, but overall the
Speaker 1: run defense was very good, which is what you want.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good start. But now then again,
Speaker 1: Brown's junior varsity was out there. Yes, no starters none,
Speaker 1: two best backs not there, top receivers not there, top
Speaker 1: tight end not there, starting line not their quarterback not there.
Speaker 1: You were playing the j B second team. That should
Speaker 1: have been the keeping it real segment right there. But
Speaker 1: we'll see. Hey, you know, it's a good start though, goodtitive.
Speaker 1: They ran them out there. So next question from Jay
Speaker 1: Hopkins b g S question for you, JP, it seemed
Speaker 1: to me when you interviewed Urban after the game that
Speaker 1: he was more upset about losing free season than other
Speaker 1: head coaches have been mid season. Did it come across
Speaker 1: that way to you, great show, No, I think he
Speaker 1: was a negative ghost writer. The pattern is full, thank you.
Speaker 1: I think that he was frustrated with some of those situations.
Speaker 1: We heard him talk about the holding on the kickoff
Speaker 1: return and the field position was not great and they
Speaker 1: didn't execute a couple of times in the fourth and
Speaker 1: one play it didn't work out, And I think he
Speaker 1: said going into the game, you know the results you
Speaker 1: want to win the game, but there are more important
Speaker 1: things to a preseason game in the actual final score.
Speaker 1: Some other coaches would think differently on that that we've
Speaker 1: seen around here. Um, every coach mid season is going
Speaker 1: to have a much different idea of that than they
Speaker 1: do in the preseason. So I'm not sure what that was.
Speaker 1: If you have a game like that opening day and that,
Speaker 1: then I think he'll share his postgame interview pleasure would
Speaker 1: be interesting. I'll say that good luck, let's hope it
Speaker 1: doesn't win all Yeah, I agree with that. Let's move along.
Speaker 1: Next question at Jags eight. Five thoughts on pass rush
Speaker 1: and it was the first preseason game, but should we
Speaker 1: be concerned with the lack of pass rush? Guys weren't
Speaker 1: getting enough pressure to affect quarterbacks and didn't seem to
Speaker 1: be getting home on blitz is Tony Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: remember one the one thing that he said that was right,
Speaker 1: Please don't panic, um, if you want to look at
Speaker 1: pass rush, Josh Allen had very few raps. A couple
Speaker 1: of you did. He had a good inside pass work
Speaker 1: and got pressure. Um, so I can't even get warmed up.
Speaker 1: And uh ca, Levan Chason had two really good pass
Speaker 1: rushes that stood out where he won Alan played twelve
Speaker 1: snap here's the thing, and how many of those were
Speaker 1: actually pass rushing situations? You know, not many. The ball
Speaker 1: was out quick case Keenom's a veteran. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of short passing. You know, he hit the third step,
Speaker 1: hit the fifth step. It's out. It's hard to hit
Speaker 1: the quarterback when that's happening. And so um I would not.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm concerned about it overall for the season, Like
Speaker 1: where is the pass rush gonna come? We talked about
Speaker 1: that last week with Pete on this show. So I
Speaker 1: think I think it's a fair question to ask. What
Speaker 1: happened in the preseason game has zero impact on my
Speaker 1: being happy or sad or scared or optimistic about it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't change your feelings from anything, not one bit. Okay,
Speaker 1: next question from at deston Ray fort nine. Let's cut
Speaker 1: the team, sir. That's not a question. Yeah, that's a statement,
Speaker 1: and Pete's not here to do it for you, so
Speaker 1: I will not do that. The first cut is tomorrow,
Speaker 1: deadline down, dude, that they're gonna go from. See, I
Speaker 1: knew this. I had this argument, and you know what
Speaker 1: if Frank and Jeff are listening right now. Joe, you
Speaker 1: were in the booth and I said, there's multiple cuts,
Speaker 1: one every week, every two. What did they say, Joe,
Speaker 1: put your ma Tell what they said? Tell me. I
Speaker 1: want you to say it. Say it. He doesn't remember. No,
Speaker 1: it's all one cuts. Correct. No, there's one every Tuesday, Frangie,
Speaker 1: don't ever question me again. I'm always right. It goes
Speaker 1: to five tomorrow, next Tuesday it goes from eighty five
Speaker 1: to eighty and then the next Tuesday it's down tote
Speaker 1: with basically two weeks to the regular season. I knew it.
Speaker 1: And there's gonna be people available for the practic squad. Yes,
Speaker 1: those rules are the same as Yes, all that's the
Speaker 1: same from last year, but the cut is different this year.
Speaker 1: Any surprises on this first cut, I think on the
Speaker 1: first cut there won't be many surprises, right, I mean
Speaker 1: it was it. The only team I heard is like
Speaker 1: in like so like ridiculous. Tim Tebow just got I
Speaker 1: was getting killed on Twitter last night, just killed, not
Speaker 1: just in Jacksonville like national um. But the interesting thing
Speaker 1: about Tim Tebow to me was not the miss blocks
Speaker 1: or any of that stuff that happens in football by
Speaker 1: the way, and he's a brand new tight end. He's uh.
Speaker 1: Those other guys are paid across the line, and it
Speaker 1: just so I could critique that. I can walk through it.
Speaker 1: We've talked about it, Jeff and I have talked about it.
Speaker 1: There's a physicality that needs to work on, so unforth, like,
Speaker 1: I don't like it got too much the memes. It
Speaker 1: was too much to man, Come on, give me the
Speaker 1: guy a break, because I I could literally go through
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers tape and show embarrassing box. That's just
Speaker 1: not I don't I don't like stuff like that anyway. Anyways,
Speaker 1: the bigger thing I'd be concerned about. He was the
Speaker 1: only tight end that didn't play in any special teams none,
Speaker 1: zero snaps. And typically if you're gonna be a down
Speaker 1: the line tight end or that move tight end slash fullback,
Speaker 1: you were playing on special teams because you're not going
Speaker 1: to be kept if you otherwise. And so I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be a first cut, but that was
Speaker 1: surprising to me JP that he was not, because you
Speaker 1: would think if his point, if your plan was that
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow on this roster as your fourth or fifth
Speaker 1: tight end or fourth, fifth, tight end s, last fullback
Speaker 1: which we've seen him running practice. UM that he would
Speaker 1: be on special teams and so that was that was
Speaker 1: like the light went off. I'm like, oh, this isn't
Speaker 1: because he got other guys you know, going ten reps
Speaker 1: on special teams. That's the high water markets. Luke Farrell
Speaker 1: had eight snaps on special teams. Yeah, the tight end list.
Speaker 1: Man Hurts I saw out there for kickoff returns. Farrell
Speaker 1: had eight. Uh Davis had five snaps on special teams.
Speaker 1: Shaunessy had two snaps on special and had six. Man
Speaker 1: Hurts had one. Managed to the starter and you hadbody
Speaker 1: else had at least one, and he was on kickoff returns.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing him and he's a starter. I was
Speaker 1: shocked that Teabo got no reps. I would be concerned
Speaker 1: if I was UM a player who was trying to
Speaker 1: make this roster on the down at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the roster, which Tim Tebo was clearly trying to do.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be the Starter's not gonna be the second.
Speaker 1: He's not a dynamic pass catcher. That's not his role.
Speaker 1: He's they they've been moving him a move tight end block,
Speaker 1: you know, in the fullback at fullback position. If that
Speaker 1: was my role and I'm not on any special teams,
Speaker 1: I'd start looking around going, um, hey, I can cover kicks,
Speaker 1: raise my hand, hey, I can blocks. What do you
Speaker 1: want to do, coach? Coach put me in because you
Speaker 1: have to contribute there if you're gonna make this roster. So, um,
Speaker 1: I spring that up because cuts are coming tomorrow. Yes five.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's getting cut. Um, I have no
Speaker 1: idea who's getting cut? Um? Urban North Trent called me,
Speaker 1: give me asking me. Didn't know. I'm shocked they should.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they're new and all guys, but
Speaker 1: Tony's on the wall. You know, they understand that he
Speaker 1: has to go through me. I mean, like to ask you,
Speaker 1: you'll tell them. By the way, no one in the
Speaker 1: history of this franchise has ever called me and asked me.
Speaker 1: I had plenty opinions every years, a player or not,
Speaker 1: but that no one asked me. And I'm also curious.
Speaker 1: Urban touched on a little bit today. The effort of
Speaker 1: all these guys put through it. It's kind of be
Speaker 1: about the first time he's had to cut cut. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's probably he's running people off. Don't get the guys
Speaker 1: are going through offseason and training camp and his first
Speaker 1: time to have to sit down across the desk and
Speaker 1: it's hard. It well, everyone hates it. I've had to
Speaker 1: fire people in my my professional crew before and it's miserable.
Speaker 1: It's no fun. You don't want to dude that. No
Speaker 1: one wants to do that, especially when someone's worked hard
Speaker 1: and giving you everything they got and you still to
Speaker 1: tell him sorry. That's why it's different than running a
Speaker 1: guy off at college because urban he's a bad guy.
Speaker 1: It's like it's easy, like just get out, Like I'm
Speaker 1: tired of giving you four chances. Yeah, that's enough. But
Speaker 1: when you are doing everything the coaches ask and you're
Speaker 1: working your tail off and you're just not good enough,
Speaker 1: and you, as the indivials, have to tell that guy
Speaker 1: that not fun. For one final social media question from
Speaker 1: that Jacob Reinhardt too all right, Tony, which do you
Speaker 1: like being on Better Colin Calherd or Jaguar's Happy Hour?
Speaker 1: And he submitted a photo of you on television with
Speaker 1: cow heard today. I'm a I'm a I'm a loyal
Speaker 1: Jaguar dot Com. I don't think there's a better host
Speaker 1: in the nation on radio than JP. So I'll choose
Speaker 1: JP every day of the week. How about that. That's
Speaker 1: that's high praise. Appreciate that, coins but at it for
Speaker 1: a long time. Collin's great love Gong been on the
Speaker 1: show several times. I think he's one of the best
Speaker 1: radio people, uh, in the business. What do you have
Speaker 1: to say about what he does? Before I get that?
Speaker 1: What he does is remarkable to me. He literally carries
Speaker 1: a three or four hour show seven days or five
Speaker 1: days a week by himself, with guests like you know,
Speaker 1: how hard is just to talk into a mic for
Speaker 1: three straight out? And Jim Rome It's like, what it is? Unreal?
Speaker 1: I mean it's not easy. Um. And so I think
Speaker 1: he's one of the best. Um, what do you have
Speaker 1: to say about that? But I still choose to be
Speaker 1: with you JP. Just asking about it was a lot
Speaker 1: of Trevor. It was let me, let me give you
Speaker 1: the gist of the interview, which is most which is
Speaker 1: this is what people want to know. It's actually tell
Speaker 1: me about urban. How's it going with Urban? Tell me that, Trevor,
Speaker 1: how's it going? Trevor? I mean, that's the And then
Speaker 1: he asked me a question about Gardner Minshew if I
Speaker 1: thought he was a starting quarterback or not in the NFL,
Speaker 1: um I said, on a team that wants to contend
Speaker 1: for a championship and for the playoffs, I do not
Speaker 1: think he's really started. I don't think he's a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Um. I said that last year. Um
Speaker 1: I think, is is he a guy that if you
Speaker 1: are looking for a transition, can you start and win
Speaker 1: using football games? Sure? Could he be like a Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick type of player? Sure? In time? I think yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean immediately, which I don't. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: a if I'm building a franchise, he's not my starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, if you're trying to go win a championship,
Speaker 1: I mean nothing against them. I love the competitiveness, I
Speaker 1: love his like work, hard, grit, all those things. But
Speaker 1: if you're asking me honestly, like I think he's a
Speaker 1: good really good backup if you if you have a
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback that can come in and win games when
Speaker 1: the guy's out until he gets back, if you're transitioning,
Speaker 1: looking for that in between before till you find the guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: if I'm trying to win a championship by building my
Speaker 1: team around Um Gardner. I'm not others might. Social questions
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Speaker 1: Welcome Back is Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday. Almost
Speaker 1: said those said Thursday, but I didn't. J. P. Shadrick,
Speaker 1: that's Tony Boselli. No, Pete Frisco. He'll be back a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I can collapse. In the background. There
Speaker 1: are people buzzing about this show tonight, Tony Award winning,
Speaker 1: highest ratings ever. I'm gonna tell you this one is
Speaker 1: right up there, almost as good as the one when
Speaker 1: you were gone in London. Well, I know your dad prefers.
Speaker 1: Pete's gone more than me. I know that for a fact.
Speaker 1: I got inside sources that Mr Shaddick prefers show. I mean,
Speaker 1: who doesn't really, I mean, if you don't, then there's
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's something wrong now and for everyone
Speaker 1: next week you gonna have to just I mean, the
Speaker 1: good news is we'll be playing the Saint. You can
Speaker 1: listen to the broadcast on the radio Public Sailgate show
Speaker 1: four o'clock. I'm sorry, I keep saying it's at eight o'clock,
Speaker 1: kick eight o'clock here for three hours before is five o'clock.
Speaker 1: And so what was told there would be no math
Speaker 1: to know a lot of pregame stuff will be on it.
Speaker 1: But Unfortunately, there will be no Monday Night show next weekend. Um,
Speaker 1: due to contract issues. I will not be here on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: You're not coming in to do the backup show. No,
Speaker 1: what's not Joe said, I didn't have to go. Joe
Speaker 1: negotiated my contract. He said no Tuesdays only Mondays. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was a hard line restive. I think the other
Speaker 1: reason is because I don't think we have any airtime Tuesday.
Speaker 1: We could, I mean create it if we needed to.
Speaker 1: I think that's probably Monday nights. We'll be back in
Speaker 1: two weeks from now. Yeah, the Monday Night show of course.
Speaker 1: Now this week coming up Wednesday, it's Huddle Up with
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks Wednesday afternoon, four o'clock on Jaguars dot Com.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one of the best editions we made.
Speaker 1: It was last year and he had a role in
Speaker 1: his roles expanding. It was Bucky Brooks. Bucky Brooks, if
Speaker 1: you've ever not have you ever seen him, former teammate
Speaker 1: of mine, if you ever saw him, if you ever
Speaker 1: get a chance to see him on the NFL network,
Speaker 1: I believe it is it is. Um. I get confused
Speaker 1: with all the different stations. He is really good and
Speaker 1: he does a great job, and the addition of him
Speaker 1: to our team has been a great one. I know
Speaker 1: he if you watched if if you were unfortunate enough
Speaker 1: not to hear the radio on Saturday night, which I
Speaker 1: know that was much listening for everybody to listen to
Speaker 1: Jeff and I, um, I'm sure him and I know
Speaker 1: him and Brian Sexon did a great job doing the TV.
Speaker 1: He's he's, he's he is, so he's so good and
Speaker 1: and so what's this Wednesday show? I mean, it's uh.
Speaker 1: We used to call it Happy Hours Huddle Up with
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. We've made that the podcast in the offseason
Speaker 1: called it huddle Up because it was Wednesday midweek kind
Speaker 1: of thing, you know, And we put it out in
Speaker 1: the morning, so it wasn't Happy Hour at nine am
Speaker 1: last I checked most places. No, it's gonna be in
Speaker 1: the afternoon. We're gonna call it Huddle Up with Wednesday's
Speaker 1: four o'clock dot com Bucky good luck. Try to get
Speaker 1: the second place, because you're never gonna get the first place.
Speaker 1: There's only one first place on this network, and that's
Speaker 1: the Monday night show without Basselly Because the Prisco when
Speaker 1: when you were in London is number one. This is
Speaker 1: a close second. Let's let's be clear. The dame of
Speaker 1: this show is BESSELLI, Shadrick and sometimes Pe Prisco here
Speaker 1: at the top of the marquee. Uh there, come on, JP.
Speaker 1: Is there any doubt about that? I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know. No. But and then and then Thursday
Speaker 1: we have coaches happy and I'll I'll be joining weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm on the road doing Thursday night football. Now we
Speaker 1: have a great lineup. The team does great. I'm looking
Speaker 1: for this is good time in the morning. Oh, it's great.
Speaker 1: There's so much and I'm not self promoting here, all seriousness.
Speaker 1: Bucky coming on is great. Jeff obviously always does a
Speaker 1: great job. J p Ashland, Brian Sexton, you know, Joe
Speaker 1: making the whole engine run so um who joined us
Speaker 1: and I did forget about him? So anyways, good stuff
Speaker 1: and the hope is and we saw, you know, a
Speaker 1: snippet on Saturday night of this Jaguar team. Um, some good,
Speaker 1: some bad, some ugly. You know, probably I found. You know,
Speaker 1: it was interesting because going into the game and going
Speaker 1: into camp, there was so much excitement because Urban and
Speaker 1: Trevor and and to the point because it happened back
Speaker 1: in February or in the January hired or been excitement
Speaker 1: have the first of all pick free agency, Okay, not
Speaker 1: as much excitement, maybe as usual because it wasn't the big,
Speaker 1: big splash guy but a good pleaser skill Griffriend and uh,
Speaker 1: it's spent a lot of free agency money they had,
Speaker 1: but they didn't get like everyone wanted, like whatever, But anyways, excitement.
Speaker 1: Then the draft comes Lawrence who excitement and it's just
Speaker 1: you have O, T A and and like there's this
Speaker 1: fever pitch and I think people were like, we are
Speaker 1: super like we were in the super Bowl, like we
Speaker 1: are ready, here we go domination. Depending on who you asked, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean and I felt it, which is good, that's
Speaker 1: what you wanted, fans. But then you got into the
Speaker 1: preseason game and all of a sudden you're playing the
Speaker 1: Browns backups. It doesn't go so well. I think that's
Speaker 1: good from this standpoint. Hey, little like, we have work
Speaker 1: to do. That doesn't mean we're not gonna be a
Speaker 1: good team. That doesn't mean Urban was it. I mean
Speaker 1: Urban's great, Trevor's great, we got all these great players,
Speaker 1: but it's the reality ality check is that we have
Speaker 1: a this is uh what's the old saying? Rome wasn't
Speaker 1: built in a day break by It's a process. You
Speaker 1: have to lay a foundation, you have to do the
Speaker 1: hard work. You have to get in the details, you
Speaker 1: need the reps, you need to go on the same page,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna take a process. It's gonna take time.
Speaker 1: Um and so everyone just take a deep breath. Don't panic.
Speaker 1: It's okay. It wasn't great. Some good stuff, some bad stuff,
Speaker 1: some of this stuff, but don't panic. It'll be okay
Speaker 1: as long as we keep on getting the error point
Speaker 1: in the right direction so that this thing hits a
Speaker 1: um crescendo. Come Houston. We have to kick it off
Speaker 1: for real, because that's what matters everything. All you're trying
Speaker 1: to do is get the building blocks in place where
Speaker 1: you can put your best foot forward and have your
Speaker 1: best performance when you play Houston, and then you know
Speaker 1: what you do after that. Then you start building again
Speaker 1: and try to have your best performance whoever we play
Speaker 1: the next week, Denver Broncos. How much do you charge
Speaker 1: an hour for these sessions? Tony? I should charge I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about opening a website self help with this is
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli. I'm listening than to steal Fraser's line, right,
Speaker 1: you're helping a lot of people right down. I mean,
Speaker 1: do you disagree. Yeah, that's the first preseason. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a whole new, the whole things new. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: a month to the regular season and then that's when
Speaker 1: it really meant Now, like we said earlier, if that
Speaker 1: happens Week one in Houston, okay, alarm bells might ring
Speaker 1: a little bit, but you got a month until all
Speaker 1: that goes down. A couple of quick NFL notes, Cam
Speaker 1: Newton or Mac Jones. Who's gonna start in New England? Tony,
Speaker 1: I think Cam starts the opening day. I think by
Speaker 1: the end of the year, Mac Jones is your starter.
Speaker 1: Seahawks made a final offer to fifth year safety Jamal Adams.
Speaker 1: Will he play in Seattle? And he'll play? And it
Speaker 1: makes sense to said, if you're an player, short career
Speaker 1: is too short. And Dalton the number one quarterback in Chicago,
Speaker 1: Go Fields needs more reps. Will he be the starter
Speaker 1: at some point sooner before the season ends? Fields will
Speaker 1: be a starter in a Dalton will start the season.
Speaker 1: They have a good football team, good defense. There, there's
Speaker 1: a look around the NFL. That's how we roll. Because
Speaker 1: we had our session with Tony Boselli that calm everybody
Speaker 1: can breath. Peter me back with us in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. We're off next Monday because of Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1: The Jags and the Saints coming up. Great show, Tony, JP,
Speaker 1: thanks to John Osier, thanks to Greg Cosal, Joe Fortunado,
Speaker 1: Brent Reebert Trimpadia. I'm JP, Shadrick and we will catch
Speaker 1: you next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars
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