WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 16 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:09.640 It is Monday, August sixteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:15.880 Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:19.000 now a guy whose contract says he only gets two 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:26.400 series till September. J P. Welcome Man's Jaguars Happy Hour 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:29.400 on a Monday. We are Pete Frisco free today. It's 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:32.919 a ratings bonanza on this Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:39.280 Tony Boselli in a busy show ahead preseason week one review. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.919 The Jaguars lost to the Cleveland Browns Saturday night at 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:45.360 t I A. Bank Field. We'll hear from senior writer 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:50.000 John oderan studio in about fifteen minutes to recap practice 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:54.360 number fourteen of training camp. Today, some pants issues, it 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:59.640 sounded like NFL films At ESPN producer and analyst Greg Cosell, 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.600 we'll join us at five o'clock and talk quarterback play 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:08.480 Trevor Lawrence and a few other rookie debuts in preseason 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:12.720 week one around the NFL. Social media questions are rolling 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:15.720 in today without Pete here, and we'll go around the 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:22.840 National Football League. Tony, good afternoon, Good afternoon. Who are 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:24.800 you texting right now? What is going on? We're doing 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:28.760 a radio show Tony. Uh, what is going on? I'm 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:33.080 texting our good friend Jeff Wagman. Okay, well that's no, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:37.920 it's really not Sorry, sorry, welcome, welcome to radio here. 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.000 We are, well listen with no Pete? I whoever? I want? 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:45.000 I guess? So yeah, no pizza Minnesota. By the way, 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:50.920 covering the vikings today, poor excuse for first preseason games. 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:54.920 They CBS sent an entire television set table like we 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:57.800 have here in studio, and like what an anchor and 0:01:57.840 --> 0:02:00.800 another guy and him and they're doing from live from camp. 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:03.320 They didn't do that here. I mean, what are we 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.440 doing Pete? Does anyone really want to see Pete on TV? No? 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:13.559 I mean I agree with you. That's what's happening. Though. Um, 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.680 how do you feeling after Saturday night about the Jaguars 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.720 squad in Tony? You know, not much different than I 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.360 did before. I mean, it's the first preseason game. What 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:29.960 I mean, typical overreaction. It would have happened the other 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:31.480 way too, if they come out and lit it up. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.079 Here we go, book tickets in l A. We're going 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.480 to the super Bowl. And now they had a bad game, 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:39.760 and it's like, oh, they're not gonna win a football 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:44.519 game this year. It's like, come on, it's somewhere in between. Um. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.320 The panic button here is that every everybody has their 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:50.280 hand on it at this time every single year anyway, 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:54.040 it's ready to click it. Part of that is because 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:57.839 it's been this team has struggled for a long time outside, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.359 so you you have a hard time of having being 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.960 optimistic and you want to see results. But it's the 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:11.160 first preseason game. You can't overreact. Um, was it good? No, 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:16.840 it wasn't good. Definitely positive, but it wasn't where you 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.640 wanted to be, not guarantee herb. It was frustrated. Probably 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.680 sounded like you have your first today, you have your 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:25.240 first offense, first defense. You're playing against backups, and you're 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.400 not being You're not being productive. Forgot the wins or 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.760 losses of the overall game. I'm just looking at that 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:32.519 first quarter, quarter and a half, you and your starters 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.000 out there, you're not productive. Trevor Lawrence Trevor Lawrence on 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:39.400 his backside play one, Yeah, I mean that's frustrating. Um. Defensively, 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.120 first drive to go up and go right down the 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:45.080 field kicking field goal frustrating? Is it panic time. No. 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:48.160 But you know the first thing that came to mind 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.560 after that game when I woke up Sunday morning. You 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.360 ever see Smoking in the Bandit? The original? Yeah, we 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.320 have a long way to go to short time to 0:03:55.360 --> 0:04:02.440 get there. Snowman that the Snowman wasn't Wasn't that the 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.920 the guy driving the the big rig to go pick 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:14.280 up the illegal Coors light and arcana with the bandit? 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:20.080 Burt Reynolds, Sally Fields great one of the number first 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.120 of all, maybe when the one of the great all 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:26.040 time movies. I mean, there's it's a great movie. Um, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:31.520 Jackie Jackie Glees, Yeah, good stuff. Hey, let's get to Yeah, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.680 but that's my whole point was a long way to go, 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:36.600 but a short time to get there. Because this team 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.520 has a long way to go. We all knew that 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:42.840 they won one game last year JP losing skid right now, 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:47.279 you don't fix it overnight, and and you know, are 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.719 they going to be better against Houston? And we saw 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:54.520 yesterday absolutely absolutely what you wanted because you said there's 0:04:54.640 --> 0:05:00.599 because that's like overall, were there positives? Yes, plenty? Okay, Lawrence, 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:04.600 I want to see Cana translate. He's done on the 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:08.880 practice field he did in college first preseason game. Positive. Yes, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.560 he can do it. He can make Did he hold 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:15.360 it a few times too long? Sure? Did he maybe 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.680 not not trust it right away? Sure? Did he make 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:20.880 some big time throws? Did he stand in the pocket? 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.359 Was he unaffected after getting drilled the first play of 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:28.800 the game. Yes, positives all good things. Does he have 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.480 a rocket of the right arm? Yes? Do I I 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:33.560 would have liked to see, you know, no one else 0:05:33.600 --> 0:05:35.120 wants to see it, and it's probably not a good thing. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.400 Would be fun to on the zone read on fourth 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.400 to one. I think he could have kept it, but 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:41.880 maybe the staff told him not to. Yeah, don't be 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.039 running over the football. I think, I mean, would be 0:05:44.040 --> 0:05:46.680 fun to see. But so that's a positive. You know, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:53.760 James Robinson look good. Positive the run defense, run defense dominant. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:59.839 Davon Hamilton's positive physical good player positives. In the second thought, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.280 A San had two good passwors against the backup tackle. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.840 Positive stuff come on, good contested balls out there. C 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.680 J Henderson, good to see him on the field. I 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.520 know everyone's been down on CJ because off the field issues, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.719 whatever they are. But here's the thing. We're better with 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:21.080 c J. When he's healthy, he's on the field. He's 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.520 a good player. He might be your overall most talented corner. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:30.640 I think that good good player, um Ray, Sean Jenkins, positive, 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:36.320 flying around, energy, come here, guys, Logan Cook booming, the weapon, 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.360 the weapon all positive. So there's there's positives out there. 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.120 Let's hear from Urban Meyer. He spoke before practice today. 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.280 You know it is against his nature to hold things 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:52.080 back in a football game. He wants starters out there 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:56.239 a little longer. And this idea of having to hold 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:58.520 back things in the free season in terms of scheme, 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:03.120 it's all new to Urban so much. I hear, we 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:05.719 can't show this, can't show this, can't show this cancer. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:11.120 You know, I don't want to get into it, but 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:14.440 I want to go some tempo on. I'm used to 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.360 some certain things. You'll see more of it as we 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.760 get moving forward. I don't want what you saw is 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:21.280 not what we're gonna be, and I gotta get it. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:26.120 We're right all the shooting. I think sometimes coaches, we 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.200 can't we can't show this, we can't show that. I'm like, 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.920 why tell me, you explain to me why you know 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:36.440 so Paranoia, which I'm the worst at up and not 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:42.400 surban Mire. Paranoia was the second question there, Tony, Why 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.800 Tony why? First of all, me and Herb, I'm aligned 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:48.240 with your head coach, me and you feel the same 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:52.600 way about this. It's ridiculous. Coaches are paranoid for no reason. 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.240 He's exactly why. I mean, right, I had that conversation 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:58.080 with their NFL coach. He's saying, oh, we can't do that, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:02.600 and I asked, same thing, why oh do show a thing? Really? 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:05.560 You know what show anything already? I can tell you 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:07.920 what you're going to do as a coach because I 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.680 know what your history has been, Like, what are you hiding? 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:16.800 There's no secrets. It's football, and maybe there's nuances here there, 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.640 but guess what after week one everyone's I mean, I'm 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.880 with you, I'm with Urban there. I mean, I agree 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.400 a thousand percent with Uran. The example that hit on 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:29.480 earlier today on Jaguars dot Com an article was Travis 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:32.160 et and he played thirteen snaps, ran the ball once, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.800 and was targeted another time. That was it. And we've 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.040 all always heard this offseason the Et is gonna be 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:38.920 a weapon. He's lining up here, he's doing this, he's 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.760 in motion. He's the guy in offensive weapon. They didn't 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.600 show any of that because I guess they don't want 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.360 the other teams to see what they might do with him. Right, Okay, 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.079 that's the other argument. You've told them that you're gonna 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:52.839 do it. Yeah, there's always so many places on the field. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.560 He can line up, run out in the wishbone, everybody 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:58.920 at that said position. Let's say, sit the slot. There's 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.520 only a handful of things he's going to do from 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:06.000 the slot. I mean, so I'm not saying show everything, 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:09.400 but you know what, at some point, this young team, 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.320 they better practice what they want to do. Right. Then. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.960 That's Urban's point too, is that I'd love to see 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.959 the quarterback more. He said we need reps for him. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.520 He's a young quarterback. I agree with Urban. I think 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:24.280 we've gone too far. You know who can veto all 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:29.520 that though? Is Urban can? He can? We'll see. I mean, 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:32.239 he's been leaning on his coordinators in the NFL experience, 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:34.840 to coaches to you know, give him some advice on 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:37.880 these matters. Well, I'm of the more old school thought, 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:41.880 like a Belichick, Andy Reid, Bruce arians. I mean, you 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:47.199 saw Hall of Fame quarterbacks or potentially Hall of fame 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:51.200 quarterbacks at the very minimum, playing in the first preseason game. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.640 Tom Brady, you think he needs reps? JP, he thinks 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.400 you know what. You want to know why he's great 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:59.880 because he thinks he does he needs He thinks he 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.400 thinks he does. He wants to get better. Patrick mahomesh 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.560 Andy reata, I want him reps. So he's behind this 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:12.959 new offensive line, you know, go down. I mean Bill Belichick, 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.640 we know what he's gonna do. Those guys are playing. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:19.240 Mike Tomlin, Hey, guys need reps. The game of football 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:23.320 is a game of repetition. You go and forget football? 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.400 When did you let me ask you a question? J 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.920 B and Joe chime in here. Joe's producing as we 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.240 have no pete Prisco. Can someone tell me one thing 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:38.240 that you get better at in life without practicing? Mhmm. 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:41.680 I can't. Off the top of my head. No, I 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:48.000 can't either because in my experience, joh no, my history. Like, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.200 if you want to get better at something, let me 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:54.640 tell you one formula that doesn't work, don't practice it. Hey, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.480 I want to get better at offensive line, but I'm 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.360 not going to practice it. I want to get better blocking. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.360 I need better technique and my past sets for the 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.199 wide rusher. But I'm not gonna practice. I'm gonna go 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:08.280 work on It'll just got a mental reping mental rep. 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:12.000 You know, I have a quarterback. I've never played in 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:14.440 the NFL before. I want to be the best ever. 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.400 But I don't need a preseason. I don't need practice. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.439 I'll just do it when it counts. Yeah, when it 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:22.960 counts is too late. Guess what you have to prepare 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:25.079 so that when it does count you can do it. 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.880 And so this whole thing of resting guys and not 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.280 playing guys and not showing stuff and not working on 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:36.000 your based fundamental things, I don't buy it. You know what, 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.400 if you don't want to show your trick creation and 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:42.400 this thing you're not, you have a package for E. 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.679 T N that's gonna be really dynamic and you want 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.840 to catch uston by surprise. Don't show that. But you 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.200 know what would be good. How many routes is E. 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.000 T N run in the NFL as a receiver? However 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:56.920 many you did the other night, net zero? How many 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.800 times has he caught the ball in the NFL? Zero? 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.839 Net zero? How about we get him some reps? Have 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.959 we get a little couple of things. So I'm with 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:09.000 Urban there, I get the parents coaches of the most 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.079 paranoid group of people have met. Are they're afraid that, 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.800 like some that there's secret sauce out there, like somehow 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.520 they are the inventor of the game. Of everybody's route 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.000 tree is kind of the same. You run a post, 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:25.000 run a corner, you run a dig. You're in a 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.360 basic route and you're wannna slant, you're in the hitch. 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.760 You're gonna stop, you're gonna sit, you're gonna come back, 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:34.280 You're in a hook. Okay. There's combinations of such that 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.520 you can work off each other pretty similar. You can 0:12:38.520 --> 0:12:41.120 work guess what JP. You can runcover three, or you 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.520 can run coover two or cover four, you can run 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.240 cover six. You can play straight man, you can go 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.600 all blitz as you can. I mean, I'm not saying 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.520 show everything, but you gotta get work, especially when you're 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:55.640 a young team. I would argue the benefit of getting 0:12:55.720 --> 0:13:01.120 reps outweighs any secret paranoia, uh that you have as 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.440 a coach that David Couleey and the Texans are gonna 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:07.120 get you. See what he did Now, I figured out 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.280 everything we found it, and I'll end with this. I 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.480 know we had to go to break my favorite. I 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.960 remember when this is a long time ago in college, 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.840 John Robinson College Hall of Fame, College Hall of Fame 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:24.000 football won a national title, took the Rams, went to 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.040 the NFL several playoff runs, I think one a NFC 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.720 title game. Good football coach, he used to tell us, 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.880 he goes, guess what, I don't care. We're gonna get 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.880 so good at what we do. I don't care if 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:38.800 they know we're gonna because we're gonna be the best. 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.720 We're gonna get reps and reps and and his point 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.880 was not we show everything, but we're gonna rep it out. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:46.440 And I even think back to Pete Carroll when he 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.559 was at SC and John Robinson had the same philosophy. 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.559 You know, every practice was wide open at USC. Did 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.480 not care who came. You could just like go watch, 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:55.760 come watch, because we're just gonna go. We're gonna do 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:59.760 our stuff. Wow, this is who we are. Student body left, 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.480 you know is gonna happen? You know where to Reggie, 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:09.080 we're hm and he's gonna run, I mean now, and 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.080 if you can stop it, good for you. And I'm 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.960 not saying going to that extent, I'm not saying every 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.880 practice should be open for the NFL and they just 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.520 le want to come see. But there's somewhere in between 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.000 that mentality and being scared to death and not working 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:24.640 on stuff. There has to be some middle ground. And 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:28.000 I think that. I think this next preseason game against 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.680 the Saints, and I know we'll talk a little bit 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.200 about that. I guess we're not having a Monday night 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:34.920 show next week because it's Monday Night football, um, and 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.120 so we'll hit on that a little bit because I 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.520 think that is think that second preseason game is really 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:43.040 important for this team, and I think they need significant reps. 0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:47.200 I think the starters need to play the third quarter 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:50.680 the third quarter. I think they need reps. I like it. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.280 Let's take our first time out on the program. We've 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.640 got plenty ahead. We'll hear from Joe Cullen he spoke 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.480 earlier today, defensive coordinator. We'll hear from the quarterback Trevor 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.520 Lawrence after the game. Josh Allen coming up in just 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.600 a moment. 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When Jaguars news breaks, you'll 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.760 hear about it first on ten ten XP, home of 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:07.520 the Jacksonville jack Wise Football. You know, it's the National 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.639 Football League. The more you be playing this league is 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.879 the more stuff is on the seat. You know what 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:17.000 I mean, as y'all probably knowing your profession. Uh, so 0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:20.399 you just can't take anything for granted. Luckily, Joe went 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:24.120 to a team that needed him most. That's a blessing, 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.000 uh that, But for a lot of other people it 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.879 doesn't happen like that. So, uh, you know, I hope 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.680 Joe and his family transistion as well, and I wishing 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.080 to him about the best, and uh, any other guy 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.960 who's about to go to these first cuts. You know, 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.080 I feel like, you know, we bust. I feel like 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.960 everybody on this team do twenty can't bust their butt 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:48.399 uh to be on this team. But you know, We 0:19:48.440 --> 0:19:50.520 can't have everybody on the teams sold, but I think 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:53.800 you know they keep working. Somebody's gonna pick him up. 0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:57.680 That's Josh Allen after the game Saturday night and welcome back. 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.600 It's Jaguars Happy R. J P. Shadrick to but Selly, 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.880 we are Pete Frisco free. It is a ratings bonanza 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:07.399 tonight on Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.680 Plenty coming up, great co Sell at five o'clock. We've 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.480 got some offensive line talk. We gotta get to Tony. 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.879 That'll be in the second hour. John Oser joins us 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.760 now Jaguars dot Com. Well, I once replaced Pete on 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:23.000 the Jaguars beat at the tea use and it's better 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:25.600 back then then we're better now. It is great to 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.640 be here with my friend J. P. Shadder can Tony 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:31.160 to sell what Tony's here too? That's great. Glad you're 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:35.119 along for the ride. Tony. That's real nice. You know, 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.920 we just heard from urban Meyer earlier today and we 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.040 ran them by the second ago about him trying to 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:46.479 wrap his mind around hiding things in the preseason, and Tony, 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.520 you you're all about showing a little bit more. I 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:53.000 think Urban's the same boat. I'm not like you have 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.560 to show every like wrinkle that you have, but you 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:57.880 have to do enough, especially when you're a young team, 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.120 to get you ready for the regular season. Like we're 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.600 not talking about the Buccaneers with Tom Brady that but 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.440 by the way, spend countless hours in the off season 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:10.560 under his leadership of getting the timing and everything else. 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:14.320 Has got a guy who's seen everything fifty thousand times, 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:19.679 a fairly veteran offensive line group and veteran receivers and talent. 0:21:21.359 --> 0:21:23.960 You're not talking about that group. You're talking about a 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:27.000 group who is fearing out as they go with their 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:30.280 working quarterback who's very talented, but a lot of work 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:33.480 to do, and what they dynamic playmaker and et N. 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.040 That you're talking about using in all these certain different ways. 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.680 You don't just show up on September whatever the date 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:45.199 is in Houston and just say, oh, let's turn it 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:49.399 on now, now we got it. I just don't buy that. 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.120 I think you have to show you have to work 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.800 on things. John, thanks for coming to the show. But 0:21:53.200 --> 0:21:59.840 that's a question. John Urban kind of has the attitude 0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:04.520 if if guys can play and there and they're better 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:09.400 than the opponent. That they're going to perform it. They're 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:11.880 gonna show their better than the opponent, even if maybe 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:13.480 the opponent is seeing one or two things they do 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.400 on film. A film gets around in the NFL by 0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:21.920 week two. All this right, So, uh I I agree 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:23.760 with them. I don't think you show your trick plays. 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:27.320 Maybe you don't go to your eighth option in the playbook, 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:30.800 but to run the offense. Yes, And I also think 0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:34.840 Urbans talking about going up tempo, you better work on that. 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:39.520 You better work on that. And you can do that 0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:43.120 and work on that without going deep into your playbook. 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:47.000 Just speed things up. When he's talking about that, he's 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.240 talking more about getting to the line quickly, snapping the 0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:52.840 ball go. He's not talking about giving away schemes or 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:56.600 looks or specific place Because here's the thing, here's the 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:01.400 side of the anti paranoid quote, because they're all paranoid, 0:23:02.440 --> 0:23:05.080 some more and others. You know what, Actually, the more 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.280 you do in preseason, you know, you force the texts 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.479 to do prepare for everything. Prepare for everything. So how 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.600 about you started running hurry up? Now, some part of 0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.800 the practices doing hurry up, but you can beat up 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:20.000 tempo and be vanilla, no doubt about it. You know, um, 0:23:20.040 --> 0:23:23.520 if you put E t n in fifty different positions, 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:25.639 now they're worried about. Okay, we have to track this 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.680 guy all over the place. If you you know, show 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:30.760 and I'm not as for this because you don't want 0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:34.080 Trevor taking hits, but you show zone read stuff where 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:37.000 the quarterbacks keeping and running a few times. Okay, I 0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:42.680 read stuff where he doesn't keep it m but you 0:23:42.720 --> 0:23:44.800 know what I'm saying. I mean, sure, so there's you. 0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.399 I can play this both ways. And I have this 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:52.120 conversation with coaches, not just here, other places going come on, 0:23:53.119 --> 0:23:56.640 everyone knows what you're going to do. There's a book 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.679 on every coach, like the especially when you had NFL 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:03.280 Core Naders. You want to know he's go watch Detroit 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:07.160 last year, Go watch the five years he is at Seattle. 0:24:07.200 --> 0:24:09.240 You wanna shotten Haimer's is gonna go watch the last 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.960 couple of years of Seattle. Go look at the Jets. 0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:14.800 I mean, these guys have a book on him and 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:16.959 what they're gonna do. One know Joe Colin's gonna do. 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:21.240 Go watch the Ravens. He's talked about it. By the way, 0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:23.520 off season he has. Yes, he's been very on their 0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:27.560 tape and that's what that's what that's what they're gonna be. John, 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:32.480 what do you make of the Joe Schobert trade to Pittsburgh? Uh? 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:34.639 I felt like a guy who was not going to 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.520 have nearly the role here he did last year. Felt 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.280 like Damien Wilson was going to start in base and 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:46.000 then Miles Jack was their best nickel backer. H And 0:24:46.119 --> 0:24:47.800 Urban kind of went away from this when he was 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:49.440 asked on Saturday, but he just feel like it wasn't 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.760 a scheme fit. And when the rest of the league 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:52.919 knows you're trying to get rid of a guy, it's 0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.480 hard to get a lot of value. Okay, So John, 0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:57.760 let me ask you a question, because I have the 0:24:57.760 --> 0:24:59.800 philosophy that if you're gonna get rid of a player, 0:25:00.480 --> 0:25:02.800 whether trade them or cut them, but do you have 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.439 somebody on their rosters who you can replace them with. 0:25:05.480 --> 0:25:08.679 It's better that you get better, especially in the trade, 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:13.520 or you get some future compensation that makes you better. 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:17.560 They believe that the combination of Wilson and Quarterman, we'll 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:23.000 do that. That's they're thinking your thoughts where if you 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:28.960 were looking at the linebacking cores. For my opinion, I 0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:33.040 would have said Schobert was your third best linebacker, especially 0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:36.160 in nickel. But if he doesn't fit what you do, okay, 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.600 but nickel he does fit. But are you paying them 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:43.520 all that money for one down? It's not one down? 0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:48.960 Your defense is nicol. On top of that, you're paying 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:53.000 his guaranteed money still and by the way, you got 0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.879 a six rounder. That's it and so long term, I 0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.480 get that he is not the thumper that you need 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:02.040 at mic linebacker in this ske but the majority of 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.680 football today has played in third down and sub personnel. 0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:11.640 And my question is if Joe Schobert is your third 0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:16.760 best linebacker and maybe your second best nickel linebacker, and 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.160 maybe he's not, maybe I don't view him that is, 0:26:19.560 --> 0:26:23.200 did you get better? And are you better off replacing 0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:26.239 him with whoever? Who? I mean, who who's gonna pay? 0:26:26.280 --> 0:26:29.320 Who's your number one nickel is a Damian Wilson? Or 0:26:29.600 --> 0:26:32.879 how about this they could play a little dimeond bringing 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:39.320 a safety down closer. Then you're missing point what I 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.479 mean I get. The only thing I view you saved 0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.480 here is you cleaned up your cap a year earlier 0:26:44.880 --> 0:26:47.080 because you're gonna take your major cap hit this year 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.879 and spread it out, but you're still paying his guaranteed money. 0:26:52.600 --> 0:26:55.560 It's not like you have cap pressure this year anyways. Right. 0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:01.200 They didn't believe that he even at their coverage scheme 0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.080 the way that they wanted it too. So I tend 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.520 to agree with you. You're giving away who a guy 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:11.399 who has proven in the NFL, and you're paying m 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:14.200 guaranteed money. I didn't quite get it, but I think 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:17.880 that's their approach, and I'm all for it. If you five, 0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:19.879 if you have, if you're trying to free up. And 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:22.399 here's what I don't know, maybe they love one of 0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:28.200 these younger guys that Joe Schobert, while better today, was 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:31.680 gonna take reps from them. They open the door up 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.200 to one of these younger guys. That's what I don't know, Quarterman. 0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:39.000 But I don't know that he's better than Schobert in 0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:42.040 Nickel's situation. Yeah, that I'm talking to Nickel first, Like, listen, 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.520 Joe Chobert does not fit the system in first and 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.639 second down. He's not a thumper. You need a thumper 0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:50.800 if you're gonna play three for He's not physical enough. 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.800 I agree, with Trent or Urban or Joe Cole and 0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.160 whoever made this isn't I'm a pcent on board there. 0:27:57.920 --> 0:27:59.879 From a cover standpoint, I get that you want to 0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.160 Von and paying him that much money probably didn't make sense, 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:05.000 but you've already it's a sunk cost and you're gonna 0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.240 pay a portion of his guaranteed money anyways. And so 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:10.879 unless he wasn't going to play as much in nicol 0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:16.760 as we thought, and then I guess the trade tells 0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:18.080 me that's the case. I don't know this is the 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:21.119 case and that and and so that's the one thing 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:23.199 I just don't know. Maybe there's just guys on this 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:27.000 roster that are younger that they want reps for. And 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.320 if that's the case, and if you're Trent in Urban, 0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:34.200 well it might not make sense in the immediate Do 0:28:34.280 --> 0:28:38.480 you have a long term view? I can buy that. John. 0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.080 We're on the practice field today standing next to each other. 0:28:41.200 --> 0:28:45.400 When Trevor Lawrence was in red zone seven on seven 0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:50.240 work carving up defenses again and we've seen that a 0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.480 lot in the practice field. What did you make of 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.800 his performance the other night Saturday Night? Was fifteen plays? 0:28:56.360 --> 0:29:00.040 Was big third down throws? Stand out um pretty to 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.480 start two things. There's still a lot of work to 0:29:02.480 --> 0:29:05.600 do for him though. Well. The ability the other night 0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:10.600 to recover and come from being behind and down on 0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.720 distance early and still getting the first down. I thought 0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:16.680 it was impressive and encouraging. And I you guys have 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:21.640 seen it every practice. Uh, with a couple of exceptions. 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.120 There has been a play or a stretch of plays 0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.680 where you walked away sort of nodding and going, okay, 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.640 that's what it is today. It was in the red 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.000 zone right before that red zone really had a really 0:29:31.080 --> 0:29:34.480 nice past to Pharaoh Cooper in seven on seven I believe. 0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:36.680 And then three or four consecutive plays in the red 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.200 zone where he's got the zip on the ball and 0:29:39.240 --> 0:29:41.880 he's got the touch and he he throws it in 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:45.240 the right way to get it there, meaning he doesn't 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:46.800 necessarily have to put a lot of air on it 0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.440 to get into the corner of the end zone. Uh. 0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.240 He can throw it with zip, he can throw the 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:54.200 he's got a natural feel for how to throw the 0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.320 ball down there, and he's got the arm talent to 0:29:56.360 --> 0:29:59.640 do it. And I, Antony, you've seen it a little bit. 0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:04.080 I was around Peyton. You worked for the Colts. The 0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:11.080 you saw Peyton unbelievable, uh mental approach the game, and 0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:13.560 he had the physical ability to do it, but he 0:30:13.600 --> 0:30:17.120 didn't have the physical ability the arm, the natural arm 0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:21.000 of this guy. Uh. You know, time will tell if 0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:25.440 he can, if Trevor has that mental capacity for the game. 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:30.960 But I've never apologies to our boy Marker. Now, I've 0:30:30.960 --> 0:30:33.400 never been around a quarterback that has this sort of 0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:36.440 physical tools. It's special. And he doesn't have to get 0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.840 to uh Manning's mental capacity because I don't think anyone 0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.840 else is in his game, right, I mean, what makes 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.800 Manning But in that rain, Roger's Brady Manning, but one 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.520 of the greatest ever. He number one. I think he 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.040 was took it to a whole level. First of how 0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:53.440 he did it, and he was unbelievable and Brady and 0:30:53.520 --> 0:30:57.000 Rogers meant Breeze is another one. But I mean just 0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.240 the knowledge of the game and the approach and what 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.440 Manning did is a high bar. But you're right about 0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:04.680 Trevor Lawrence as a skill set that Manning never had. 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:08.160 And that's the athletic ability. Number one, just feet run. 0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:11.760 No one's gonna worry about Peyton Manning running away from you, 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.920 and there are throws he makes that are just different. 0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.080 He has he has this, he has a he has 0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:21.480 a arm that will remind you of the Always the Rogers, 0:31:21.560 --> 0:31:26.040 the Farbs. Um, we think it's he has the accuracy 0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:28.000 to we got to see that over probably a larger 0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.600 ask you because you were a big lay fan. Aren't 0:31:30.640 --> 0:31:35.520 the same as always lays arm? Yeah? Yeah, that's hard 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:36.959 because I was a kid when I watched it, so 0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:41.960 like her, I remember when you're a kid. But he 0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:44.239 Trevor reminds me. I don't think he's as thick as 0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:48.200 Elway was big, but he but he's John was like 0:31:48.240 --> 0:31:51.760 the first like super athletic guy who played the position 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:55.800 that way anier throw in an era where no one 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.800 wanted you to leave the pocket. Um, Trevor has that 0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:02.200 type of same athletic a bill as as John Elway. 0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:06.400 I mean different. You know, it's hard to compare. But 0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:08.200 the question that I think the next thing I want 0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:11.760 to see, which I think we've seen in practice, is 0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:15.320 he consistently accurate. Because what makes all those guys great, 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:19.320 the Rogers, the Bradies, the Mannings, the Breeze, is they're 0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.720 deadly accurate. They can put the ball where it needs 0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:26.360 to be has sort of done it, and we saw 0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:30.000 it on the throw to Marvin Jones Jr. When he 0:32:30.040 --> 0:32:33.080 doesn't look open really, but he throws it high in 0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:36.560 a place where he almost throws him open um. And 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:40.720 that's a gift necessarily, even with the time he had. 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.280 That is a difficult You have to see it and 0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:46.719 you have to react. Anyone wants to practice, that's right. 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:48.640 At least are you gonna say because I I want 0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:50.840 to bring up a topic that happen in practice today? 0:32:50.920 --> 0:32:53.480 Are you gonna stay one more if you want me to? 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.000 But yeah, i'd like you to. Your name's on the walls. 0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.680 We're we'll hear more from John Osier when we come 0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.400 back after this time out. You can check out the 0:33:01.440 --> 0:33:05.400 Official Jaguars Podcast Network pre subscriptions on Apple, iTunes, Spotify, 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.440 or wherever you get your podcast. Where are you Tony, 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:12.040 spot Spotify? That um this program? Ark, I've right after 0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:16.720 the show? You do listen on the way home. Yeah, 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.240 I critique you. I critique you. You know smartphones had 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:26.200 apps done? 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Look for the bright yellow 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:53.640 cans where every buy beer. Twisted T Brewing Company, Cincinnati, Ohio. 0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:58.640 Please re responsibly. Jacksonville Sports Talk for Jacksonville sports fans. 0:36:58.840 --> 0:37:02.440 Ten ten x olt Home of the checks in Ville Jaguars. 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.799 The effort plus two mentality we're talking about. Just take 0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:13.680 a look at the tape, you know. The one thing 0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.880 we made some mistakes, but we were physical, okay, and 0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.280 we had you look at the tackles. Seven eight guys 0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.680 on the ball every time the run went to the sideline, 0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:26.000 the one miles there, shoot the next one to the sideline. 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.480 We had seventy eight black and tailed jersey there and 0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.239 that was great. Some of the things I'd like to 0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.480 improve on. You know, obviously right before the half, winning 0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:35.680 that two minute drill, we go in, we win that drill, 0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:37.839 we get the ball coming back. Now we get out 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.200 and score. We're winning the game right there. So those 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.680 are some things. Tackling was pretty good. We had a 0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:45.759 couple of miss tackles. On one one play there they 0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:48.480 had a swing route the corner missed it. Not leverage, 0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.120 but for the most part the physicality really liked in 0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:56.719 the effort. Joe Cullen, Jaguars defensive coordinator. Hear that voice, 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.280 you know instantly who it is, Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy 0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:02.600 our JP, Adrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Brisco is not here. 0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:06.080 He is in Minnesota covering cares where he is. No 0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:12.600 one cares where John Osiers here though it's a rating spike, 0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:17.400 you know, he touched on it there. Joe Cullen, the 0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:24.640 physicality of the Jaguars defense on Saturday night, presented that, Um, 0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.680 what about today's practice, John? They were out there in 0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:31.480 full pads today. It felt like there was a little 0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.759 urgency after we heard Urban talk this morning about some 0:38:34.840 --> 0:38:37.479 of those things we've discussed already, the tempo and things 0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.479 like that. What was it. I don't think they were. 0:38:40.520 --> 0:38:43.080 They weren't, you know, doing Oklahoma drills or anything like that. 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:45.719 But those are almost against the law, they are, I think. 0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:48.239 But what do you think of practice today and all that? 0:38:48.320 --> 0:38:52.359 It was more physical than your you know, normal two 0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:54.040 days after a game. At the same time, they're still 0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.719 in camp mode until I guess at the end of 0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.279 this week, so it's not entirely usual them to be hitting. 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:05.000 I don't overlay it, but it was. At first. I 0:39:05.000 --> 0:39:07.360 wasn't sure because they had the installation period maybe seven 0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:09.400 periods in and I was sort of used to some 0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.920 more live stuff in period six or seven, whatever it was. 0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:14.720 But as time went on, it felt like a training 0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:20.839 camp practice. I was it a punishment practice. I didn't 0:39:20.840 --> 0:39:23.040 get that field but they hit I mean, which in 0:39:24.200 --> 0:39:26.000 it's the game of day and age, that's the game 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:27.799 of football. You're supposed to hit well. But in this 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:29.919 day and age, you don't always get that much done. 0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:31.960 I mean, it's not like it was back in the 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:37.080 seventies when you play leather helmets. Um. Well, first, I 0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:40.120 think Joe was right. I thought the defense was physical, um, 0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.160 especially against the run, and I think they're gonna be 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.360 better against the run. As far as days practiced, I 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.239 wasn't out there another engagement, um, But I did hear 0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.920 um through Twitter and talking to people that the offensive 0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:56.520 line did gassers afterwards. Was there some like punishment that 0:39:56.600 --> 0:40:00.200 they do something wrong? Um? That I don't know was 0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.880 that did? They were running? They ran afterward, but they 0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:06.799 were the only group right. Yes, And in my in 0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:10.239 my experience as offensive linement, anytime we had to run 0:40:10.280 --> 0:40:16.320 after practice, it was due to poor play penalties, be 0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.439 a fight that I started. Didn't Doug run the whole 0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.399 team in the past like at the end of the Yeah, 0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:23.319 but that was that was the first training camp that 0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.040 kind of like and then we won and they kind 0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:28.759 of went away. Yeah, I mean there was, but I mean, 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:31.680 certainly running any other, if any practice, I've never seen. 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:34.960 I've never seen one group one group run. I mean 0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:38.759 I've been in my history of playing football, I've been 0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.960 a part of the one group that's running. And the reason, 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:45.120 yeah there was usually we did something poorly. Um, I 0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:48.520 was just curious, no sense of why that happened. Uh, 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:50.640 it was at very talent of practice. And Urban did 0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:54.840 not talk after and and Joe Colin talked and he 0:40:54.880 --> 0:41:01.360 doesn't coach offensive. They were assumptions made. I don't follow 0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:05.560 at a p. Mark long for the assumptions. Mark, Yeah, well, 0:41:05.640 --> 0:41:07.719 I know there was something with pads or pants or 0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:12.960 some it was like pants gate. It was not pants skate. 0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.840 I don't think. I didn't see any of that happen 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:19.520 with my own two eyes, So that's why I don't 0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:22.120 know either. But I just thought it was interesting. Well, 0:41:22.120 --> 0:41:25.640 and I only bring it up because there was pants gate. 0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.319 It might be it might be a thing hashtag pants gate. 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.000 Put that out there, I would see what's that trend 0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:37.320 on trend? Because I only bring it up because after 0:41:37.320 --> 0:41:42.400 the game. And again, if you follow Twitter, sports talk radio, 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:46.759 all everything reporting after the game, if you'd asked, tell 0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:50.799 me that the unit that most underperformed. Everybody was all 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.279 over the old line, killing the offensive line. Now, what 0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:57.720 was you're the ex lineman? I thought in several cases 0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:59.600 Trevor clearly held the ball too much, which led to 0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.960 Lisa one of the first half sacks. And then going 0:42:02.960 --> 0:42:05.520 back and watching yesterday, I thought there were a lot 0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:10.440 more plays where that they played. Okay, been disastrous, but 0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.520 your judge in your disastrous overall, what do you think 0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.520 well as an offensive line? And unfortunately, all anyone remembers 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:20.600 is the bad place. That's all remembers. And let you know, 0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:27.280 so just get used to it. It's part of life. Um, 0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:29.319 you know A j kN gave him an early sack. 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:30.759 After that, I thought he played good. I mean it 0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:33.600 was the first play the game. It's preseason. Stuff happens. 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:35.799 But I thought he was really physical and he had 0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.040 a great year last year. I thought Linda was fine, 0:42:38.080 --> 0:42:40.920 typical Linder. I think Bart has always to go still. 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:43.160 I still think his feet are an issue. He gets 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.040 the guys get on the edge a little bit. Is 0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:48.160 he better better? Yes, and improving to the point where 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:49.640 he can be the swing guy. Well he won't be. 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:52.799 He's not. He's not as good shall at this point 0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:55.480 I would put Shatley in first. But he's training in 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.479 the right direction. I mean, you can see he's working. 0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:01.080 It's a project. I mean it was about um. I 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:03.680 thought the right tackle was just okay at best, Like 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.359 jo Wan Taylor, guys get on the edge too much. 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:10.240 It's just too close and in the in the pockets, 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:15.640 get squeezed and even make the quarterback uncomfortable. Um I 0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.560 thought Cam was fine, but he was. I mean, don't 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.960 forget these were the backups too. It's not like Miles 0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.359 Garrett was out there or like there was a bunch 0:43:25.360 --> 0:43:27.600 of backups. Now you were blocking some guys that might 0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:31.479 even be on the team, and so um I thought 0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:36.600 Cam was fine. Nothing. But you know, now the story 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:40.680 of camp has been Walker Little uh Urban mentioned a 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.680 JP was out there that he thought he struggled a 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:46.600 little bit with his hands. I thought terrible and terrible. 0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.840 I thought they were awful. I think walking by the 0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:52.240 way I think I said here, I think Walker Little 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:57.200 will be a good player. I think he has the 0:43:57.239 --> 0:44:00.200 potential to be a great player. I think it will 0:44:00.239 --> 0:44:01.840 be a good player. I think we have to be 0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:06.239 careful of anointing guys after a couple of practices, and 0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:08.719 all of a sudden, the media around this place, you know, 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.880 in this city. I mean he started tweeting out that 0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:15.040 he's like the you know, some brick wall that's just 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.440 dominating people. And the practice I've seen he's been good, 0:44:18.600 --> 0:44:21.640 and Urban has been effusive in his praise. And he's 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:23.439 a young player who's getting better. And he hasn't playing 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:25.799 a lot of football. He's been out because of you know, 0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:29.960 COVID and injuries, um, and everything I love about him, 0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:33.640 he has naturally he's big, he's powerful. He's a naturally 0:44:33.640 --> 0:44:35.640 big person. He's not like trying to be big. He's 0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:40.719 just big. He's athletic, good feet, Um, he's powerful. I 0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.520 thought he ran back very well last I mean two 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:46.239 nights ago. I thought he's just physical pass walking, his 0:44:46.280 --> 0:44:47.600 feet were good. I think he needs to work on 0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:49.680 the sets. He sets himself up. He makes it harder 0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:51.719 on himself than he needs to. When you have a 0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:54.000 three step drop and you're dropping deep, go get the guy, 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.560 go be physical. Um. And I just think his hands 0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:59.160 were awful. I mean, he just he's not he doesn't 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.080 like at times it looks like he doesn't know what 0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:03.319 to do with his hands and they're just low and 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:06.880 they're late, and he just and here's the great thing something. 0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:08.960 But the great thing about it is and so I'm 0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:11.160 not trying to because I'm a believer. I think he 0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.359 has the pencil. I think he has opportunity be good. 0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:15.719 I think if I'm a betting man, I would bet 0:45:15.760 --> 0:45:18.440 money Walker Little is a starting left tackle for ten 0:45:18.520 --> 0:45:22.040 years and a good player. If I get the right odds, 0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:24.279 I'll bet money that he's a great player because he 0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:26.319 has that ability. And one of the things, even as 0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.359 bad as his hands were, like, guys would just run 0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:33.160 into him and they wouldn't get there because he's just 0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:36.279 big and he's powerful and like so, which is good. 0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:39.080 It didn't have to be perfect for him to block 0:45:39.160 --> 0:45:41.279 the guy. Now again, he might be blocking the guy 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:44.360 who's an accountant in two weeks now. Hands are everything. 0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:47.879 I've talked to a lot of defensive linemen over the years. 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.680 You tell me on their side, hands take time to 0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.640 develop the fundamentals you need. Same true in the offense. 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.880 I mean, is this a long term thing. It takes 0:45:56.880 --> 0:45:59.400 a long time to learn. I mean, you'll get bad. 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:01.000 It's not gonna be perfect this year, but you know 0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:04.040 that stuff I'm talking about just like, get him out 0:46:04.040 --> 0:46:08.960 of the defensive lines. Hands in the way, just I 0:46:09.000 --> 0:46:12.000 mean in front of you, and I actually so for 0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.839 offensive line play, the most important thing is feet. You. 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:17.359 I say all the time, you block people with your 0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:19.960 feet if you're trying to block people with your hands, 0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.239 or because you start reaching and leaning and everything else, 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:26.080 It's all about body position and feet. So block people 0:46:26.080 --> 0:46:28.400 with your feet. He has those feet. I think he 0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:30.719 can clean some of it up, thinking help himself out 0:46:30.719 --> 0:46:33.000 with some of the sets, all stuff that if you 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:35.080 don't have that, you're never be great. Yeah, I mean, yeah, 0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.320 He's just those are things you figure out. The hands 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:40.960 is where you you have to have heavy, strong hands 0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:43.799 is where you create your separation and create space and 0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:47.319 give yourself a chance to win. Um. And that's just 0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.920 you know, he's not He's got work to do. But 0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.840 that's okay. He's a rookie. He's a rookie like me 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.000 saying he had awful hands. It's not like I have 0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:59.400 the highest respect lines, headlines, species, walk a little, I 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:03.439 have high streets back for him. 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Based on Autosource Incorporated 0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:02.520 data obtained on the station that the Jaguars listened to 0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:13.319 ten ten XL home of the Jacksonville Jaguars, I'm looking 0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:14.680 up in her as that my gosh, we're in the 0:51:14.680 --> 0:51:16.600 middle of the second quarter and we've had three drives. 0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:19.200 I think you know, college have three drives in the 0:51:19.280 --> 0:51:21.880 first quarter or the fourth or you know, if you're 0:51:21.920 --> 0:51:26.000 really cooking. Um, So that's I knew that, but it 0:51:26.040 --> 0:51:28.000 was now that I did it. It's on your quick 0:51:29.560 --> 0:51:32.320 it is indeed, Urban. That's the head coach Urban Meyer. 0:51:32.680 --> 0:51:35.799 Some of the adjustments he in his first NFL game 0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:39.400 this past Saturday night, the Jaguars fell to the Cleveland 0:51:39.400 --> 0:51:41.920 Brown's welcome back at Jaguars Happy ur j P. Shaddrick 0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.440 Tony was SELLI no Pete Brisco this week he should 0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:45.920 be back with us and a couple of weeks we're 0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.800 off next week because of well, there's a Jaguars football 0:51:48.800 --> 0:51:51.600 game Monday night, the Jags and the Saints at the 0:51:51.640 --> 0:51:56.120 Caesar's Superdome in New Orleans. Eight o'clock is the kickoff 0:51:56.200 --> 0:52:01.880 time Eastern, and we'll go on the air at five o'clock. 0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:05.000 Five o'clock is three hours before eight. That's the public 0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:08.080 tailgate show at five o'clock next Monday, ahead of the 0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:10.359 eight o'clock kick off the Jags and the Saints. That's 0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:13.239 coming up. That a lot of this, and Urban has 0:52:13.239 --> 0:52:16.680 been pretty transparent throughout this offseason about some of the 0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.319 things he doesn't know about the NFL and leaning on 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:23.080 some of his assistants and the flow of the game 0:52:23.120 --> 0:52:24.799 as part of that too, right, I mean he just 0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:27.319 said it there. Some of these offenses in college these 0:52:27.400 --> 0:52:31.279 days are flying down the field. The clock stops, you know, 0:52:31.280 --> 0:52:34.239 in certain situations in college it doesn't in pro and 0:52:34.760 --> 0:52:37.840 all of a sudden the game creeps away. If you 0:52:37.880 --> 0:52:39.719 can't get off the field, you look up at the 0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:42.200 clock and the quarters over you haven't had a ball. Well, 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:47.040 they gave up a It's incredible, right plays. Yeah, I 0:52:47.080 --> 0:52:49.360 mean I don't care where you are, You're gonna be 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.839 out there for a while. Yeah, now there'll be adjustments, 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:55.360 but like two minutes I almost won. I almost wonder 0:52:55.480 --> 0:53:01.920 sometimes JP is not that he I know he's learning, 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:04.560 but is it also Urban trying to communicate, Hey, we're 0:53:04.560 --> 0:53:07.799 all this together. We're you know, learning together, even though 0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:10.279 like I get the sense and I don't know this 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:17.319 that urbans like, listen, I know this stuff. You know, 0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:20.920 I've won a few Natties. I mean everywhere I go wins. 0:53:21.280 --> 0:53:23.960 I mean, I know what I'm doing, guys, but you know, 0:53:24.000 --> 0:53:26.040 if he comes across that it's a no win for him. 0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:27.840 And if he comes across it's like, yeah, I'm learning, 0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:30.759 Like this is new, this is different, and it is, 0:53:31.760 --> 0:53:34.480 but I don't think it's that big a deal. Like 0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:36.920 I don't think like Urban sweating it at night going 0:53:37.520 --> 0:53:40.279 We'll have this challenge situation. I need to got this 0:53:40.400 --> 0:53:42.640 red flag? What do I do? Where do I keep 0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:46.359 this thing? I don't know my sock? Is there? Two 0:53:46.360 --> 0:53:50.239 minutes Lucks running and doesn't stop. Is the field? Is 0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:55.160 it the hash marks? Oh my gosh. Because it's not 0:53:55.200 --> 0:53:58.839 like he's a Remember he's not a course. He's never 0:53:58.840 --> 0:54:00.520 been a coordinator and either said the ball. He's just 0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:02.400 a leader, he's just a head coach, he's a CEO. 0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.520 So it's not like if you're maybe an offensive coordinator's 0:54:05.600 --> 0:54:09.120 never been at the NFL game and always been college, 0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:11.760 then the hash marks might be a bigger deal. Right, 0:54:12.320 --> 0:54:14.799 the mechanics of Colin plays in over the headset would 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:17.399 be different. But he's not doing any of that. He's 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:21.279 guys who've already done it before. So it is a 0:54:21.360 --> 0:54:24.279 learning experience and I and I do appreciate urbans like 0:54:24.280 --> 0:54:26.880 willingness to have some transparency of saying this is like, 0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:29.239 I'm figuring this out a little bit. But I just 0:54:29.280 --> 0:54:31.160 get the sense because he's so smart, I mean to 0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.719 dude smart, not like he hasn't thought all those things 0:54:34.440 --> 0:54:37.640 the job an. So I mean, the guy is impressive. 0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:40.400 And I wait a minute, the hash marks are different 0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:46.680 and that wasn't in the brochure. The world flag. Yeah, 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.759 I mean, I don't know, man, but yeah, the guy 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:54.920 won of his games. The dude wins translates here, that 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:58.160 would be a pretty that might be would winning eighty 0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:00.480 percent of the games be pretty good? That might be 0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:03.160 an all time record. I think that'd be good. I mean, 0:55:03.560 --> 0:55:05.320 i'd have to go look it up, but I guess 0:55:05.719 --> 0:55:10.319 over a hundred names. If so, I think it would 0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:13.759 be just fine. But yeah, it's you know, I was 0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:18.320 interested in hearing him after the game. You know, um 0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:20.880 how he's going to react to a situation like that, 0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:23.400 because he said going into the game, he understands the 0:55:24.080 --> 0:55:27.640 result of the score. Okay, you want to win, but 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.680 there's you want to win plays and win one on 0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:33.840 one matchups and every rep. But that didn't happen either. 0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:37.200 That's the problem. Wasn't all that we you know, wee 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:39.120 on the scoreboard and then if you step back, and 0:55:39.120 --> 0:55:43.120 I always say players and coaches, no, like I knew 0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:44.920 when I went into a preseason game that sounds it's 0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:47.560 gonna play a quarter. 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Um, 1:00:16.200 --> 1:00:19.800 Cleveland did a good job. Big Zone team, the match 1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:22.280 us pretty well. But now, I mean, I feel like 1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:25.920 the first time out there, I felt comfortable, felt poised. Obviously, 1:00:25.960 --> 1:00:27.680 the first play is not kind of what you want 1:00:27.720 --> 1:00:30.120 for the first play, But after that, I thought, I 1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:32.320 thought we did a good job. We communicated well up front, 1:00:32.800 --> 1:00:35.360 they did a really good job with protection. Uh at 1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:37.800 least one of those sackses on me for sure, just 1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:40.560 holding the ball too long, So that's something I'll work on, 1:00:40.680 --> 1:00:43.560 and just maneuvering in the pocket. It's something I've always, 1:00:43.640 --> 1:00:46.560 you know, always gotta work on. So other than that, 1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:50.600 I missed missing easy one um to Marvin, a little 1:00:50.680 --> 1:00:52.120 quick out that I wish I would have hit. But 1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:53.680 other than that, I felt I felt good out there. 1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:55.800 I thought we were seeing it all on the same page. 1:00:55.840 --> 1:00:58.160 And there's obviously things to clean up, but I thought 1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:01.520 it was a pretty good day. Reverd Lawrence after Saturday 1:01:01.600 --> 1:01:06.040 Night's preseason opener, his debut in the preseason of his 1:01:06.160 --> 1:01:09.040 rookie campaign. Welcome in. It's the second hour of Jaguars 1:01:09.080 --> 1:01:12.680 Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco is 1:01:12.760 --> 1:01:14.680 out this week. Can be back with us in a 1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:17.080 couple of weeks. Yes, Tony, you're raising me. Tell you what, 1:01:17.280 --> 1:01:21.280 Trevor Lawrence, smartman, smart man, you want to win over 1:01:21.320 --> 1:01:24.760 your offensive alignment. Take the put the sack on. It 1:01:24.920 --> 1:01:27.880 was on me. I held, I held it you long. 1:01:27.920 --> 1:01:32.080 They did a great job. Kudos you perfect, Mr Lawrence. 1:01:32.680 --> 1:01:35.240 That that is gonna get you brownie points in the 1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:37.640 offensive line. That and get a good gift for Christmas. 1:01:37.720 --> 1:01:40.240 You'll be set all that. Plenty of dinner everyone, while 1:01:40.800 --> 1:01:44.120 plenty ahead on Jaguars Happy Hour, including your social questions 1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:48.120 coming up. Let's go to our good friend Greg Cosell. 1:01:48.240 --> 1:01:51.080 He is with the NFL Film Senior producer NFL Matchup 1:01:51.080 --> 1:01:54.360 on ESPN. The executive producer and analysts there, and Greg, 1:01:54.840 --> 1:01:57.360 thanks for coming on with us today on Jaguars Happy Hour. 1:01:57.520 --> 1:01:59.480 Good to see you and talk to you. And you 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:01.800 know we're gonna go through some quarterbacks around the league. 1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:06.160 But Jacksonville folks finally got a chance to see the 1:02:06.280 --> 1:02:09.760 long blond locks of Trevor Lawrence wearing teal, which is 1:02:09.800 --> 1:02:14.240 always fun. Well, you know what, guys, it's great to 1:02:14.280 --> 1:02:16.120 be with you. And I'm gonna start off by asking 1:02:16.160 --> 1:02:21.439 Tony a question. So, Tony coaches coach. Do they coach 1:02:21.480 --> 1:02:23.560 for guys to be just okay, our average or to 1:02:23.560 --> 1:02:26.720 do it the right way all the time? Well, yeah, 1:02:26.720 --> 1:02:28.080 I mean, Greg, you know as well as I do. 1:02:28.160 --> 1:02:32.520 The good coaches demand the best, and I agree with 1:02:32.560 --> 1:02:36.280 you we were talking off their The coach's job is 1:02:36.280 --> 1:02:38.200 to get the most out of the player is and 1:02:38.280 --> 1:02:40.400 you do that two ways. You put them in the 1:02:40.440 --> 1:02:44.919 best possible position to have success. In number two, you 1:02:45.080 --> 1:02:48.680 ask them to do perform at the level you believe 1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:52.240 they can achieve, not where they are, not where they're comfortable. 1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:55.880 You take them to a level where it's uncomfortable and 1:02:55.920 --> 1:02:58.320 you ask them to reach there. And any player worth 1:02:58.320 --> 1:03:00.520 their salt, we'll tell you that's what they want. It's 1:03:00.640 --> 1:03:03.560 it's not always pleasant. It's not fun, especially depending on 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:06.919 the personality of the coaches. You know, aren't as nice 1:03:06.920 --> 1:03:08.880 as others. But that's what you want. That's what coaching 1:03:08.920 --> 1:03:11.760 is about. Well, it's funny you say that, because I 1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:15.040 was really fortunate in my career to learn the quarterback 1:03:15.080 --> 1:03:18.560 position from Bill Walsh, and the way he taught it 1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:22.160 was that you do it the right way every single time. 1:03:22.240 --> 1:03:24.480 So when I watch a quarterback, that's the way I 1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:28.240 think about it. I don't and obviously it's the first performance, 1:03:28.440 --> 1:03:32.720 but that's that should not be totally relevant because it's 1:03:32.760 --> 1:03:35.000 being coached, it's being taught, and you want to go 1:03:35.040 --> 1:03:37.160 out there and you want to see not only the 1:03:37.200 --> 1:03:41.920 quarterback everybody. But obviously we're gonna talk quarterbacks and Trevor Lawrence. Um, 1:03:42.040 --> 1:03:44.040 you want to see it done right all the time. 1:03:44.520 --> 1:03:48.640 So if you'd like to do that, I certainly could. Yeah, 1:03:48.720 --> 1:03:50.440 and so great, let's talk about that. I mean, as 1:03:50.440 --> 1:03:53.000 you look at Trevor Lawrence, I mean, obviously, I know 1:03:53.080 --> 1:03:55.200 you watch a lot of film, you know, of these 1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:57.320 guys in college leading up to the NFL draft, and 1:03:57.320 --> 1:04:00.200 you watch a ton of pro games and break that 1:04:00.280 --> 1:04:03.840 down with your responsibilities. Give us a breakdown of what 1:04:03.960 --> 1:04:07.320 you saw and and doing a lot of what you 1:04:07.360 --> 1:04:09.680 were expecting. We know it's the first preseason game, but 1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:12.560 as you said, do you know you gotta do it 1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:15.160 right all the time if you want to be great. Yeah. 1:04:15.200 --> 1:04:17.800 I thought where he was really good was there were 1:04:17.840 --> 1:04:22.720 some spot throws to the outside. He hit Um Jones 1:04:22.800 --> 1:04:25.000 I think for ten yards on third and nine. I 1:04:25.040 --> 1:04:27.600 think that was the first series it was. It was 1:04:27.640 --> 1:04:30.560 a ten yard out that was a spot throw. That's 1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:34.200 more of an execution throw than a read throw. Um. 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:38.520 He also hit a spot throw another time in the game, 1:04:38.560 --> 1:04:41.360 I think probably saying what played two series? Was it? Yes, 1:04:42.720 --> 1:04:45.520 I think you're probably thinking on these, uh, the the 1:04:45.560 --> 1:04:50.480 one the man hurts on the on the sit route 1:04:50.560 --> 1:04:55.640 just um. Yeah, there were there were two spot throws 1:04:55.720 --> 1:04:58.600 that they he showed a strong sense of timing because 1:04:58.600 --> 1:05:01.000 those are throws. I remember work, you know, with Ron 1:05:01.080 --> 1:05:03.240 Jaworski for years and years, one of my best friends, 1:05:03.240 --> 1:05:05.640 and he would tell me that there were certain throws 1:05:05.720 --> 1:05:08.080 that based on the timing of the drop and and 1:05:08.160 --> 1:05:11.320 the throw, that he could throw blindfolded because their spot throws, 1:05:11.480 --> 1:05:15.480 their timing throws, and I thought Lawrence for a rookie quarterback, 1:05:15.880 --> 1:05:18.320 really did a good job with those. That was That 1:05:18.440 --> 1:05:21.520 was a real positive Um he talked about and I 1:05:21.520 --> 1:05:23.560 know what you said, Tony about the old line. The 1:05:23.600 --> 1:05:25.880 first sack was on Lawrence the first play of the game. 1:05:25.920 --> 1:05:29.439 He was slow to eliminate and isolate Um. The read 1:05:29.560 --> 1:05:31.920 was to the left side. He stayed focused on slot 1:05:31.960 --> 1:05:35.440 receiver Jones far too long. He had channel opened on 1:05:35.480 --> 1:05:38.600 the in breaker to the read side. The Browns were 1:05:38.720 --> 1:05:41.720 had a five man rush, they played cover one. The 1:05:41.760 --> 1:05:44.000 throw should have been to Chanult. He just stayed on 1:05:44.120 --> 1:05:48.880 Jones too long. First play, probably to be expected, but 1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:52.280 again something now to teach and to work on. Great 1:05:52.320 --> 1:05:57.360 cous with us from NFL films and ESPN's NFL matchup. Yeah, 1:05:57.480 --> 1:06:02.200 for a rookie quarterback, having that that clock in your 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:05.640 head of you know when to get rid of this thing, 1:06:05.680 --> 1:06:08.280 not to hold it too long. How much How long 1:06:08.320 --> 1:06:12.200 does that take for a quarterback to figure that out? Greg, Well, 1:06:12.240 --> 1:06:15.720 there's reasons, jp Y quarterbacks hold it too long. Sometimes 1:06:15.760 --> 1:06:20.240 it's truly because the coverage winds. For instance, the second 1:06:20.280 --> 1:06:23.080 sack came on a shot play out of twelve personnel, 1:06:23.160 --> 1:06:26.200 one back, two tight ends. It was conventional play action 1:06:26.240 --> 1:06:30.200 with Lawrence under center. It was mirrored crosses by Jones 1:06:30.240 --> 1:06:33.120 and Johnson. It was seven man pass bro which tells 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:35.280 you what your shot play. They're looking to get him 1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:36.960 on a deep drop. They want to throw the ball 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:40.280 down the field and a t N released late into 1:06:40.320 --> 1:06:43.360 the flat. The Browns took it away with cover three. 1:06:43.400 --> 1:06:46.000 There was no throw to be made. Now, could you 1:06:46.040 --> 1:06:47.480 sit here and say you could throw it into the 1:06:47.480 --> 1:06:51.240 flat maybe, but there was truly no throw to be made. 1:06:51.760 --> 1:06:54.840 Um another play that I think is something you really 1:06:54.880 --> 1:06:56.400 want to work on. And by the way, this is 1:06:56.600 --> 1:07:00.000 very common with the young quarterbacks. It was the third 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:03.320 it in four play that ended the first possession where 1:07:03.360 --> 1:07:06.400 he threw it to Chinault on the slot out route 1:07:07.200 --> 1:07:10.720 uh and it was incomplete obviously because they punted. He 1:07:10.920 --> 1:07:15.360 drifted into the pressure. He drifted instead of staying on 1:07:15.400 --> 1:07:18.120 the mid line and giving himself an opportunity to make 1:07:18.160 --> 1:07:23.040 a clean throw. Trevor drifted to his left right behind. 1:07:23.160 --> 1:07:25.440 I guess it was Cam Robinson, the left tackle, and 1:07:25.480 --> 1:07:28.200 he created his own pressure, so he made it a 1:07:28.240 --> 1:07:31.960 more difficult throw than it was now. Antonio will understand 1:07:32.000 --> 1:07:34.600 this because someone will probably say Cam Johnson didn't do 1:07:34.640 --> 1:07:37.840 a good job, but Trevor drifted into him and it 1:07:37.920 --> 1:07:40.520 made it tougher for for Camera Robinson and to make 1:07:40.560 --> 1:07:44.000 the block. Yeah, Camp, it wasn't Cam's falter. You're exactly right, Greg. 1:07:44.080 --> 1:07:46.000 There was a little bit of a soft pocket by 1:07:46.440 --> 1:07:49.680 Juwan Taylor on the right side, and so in Trevor 1:07:49.760 --> 1:07:53.919 felt that and started drifting back backwards into the left. 1:07:53.960 --> 1:07:55.880 If you would have stepped up and took it about 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:57.880 two shovels to the left, there was a there was 1:07:58.080 --> 1:08:00.400 space there where he could have sat there for an 1:08:00.440 --> 1:08:03.000 extra click and then be able to throw the ball 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:06.080 with his feet set. And that's what and those are things. 1:08:06.160 --> 1:08:07.760 And he even mentioned it, I gotta be better in 1:08:07.760 --> 1:08:11.040 the pocket. And that's what you see young quarterbacks do 1:08:11.160 --> 1:08:14.560 all the time. They go backwards instead of forwards. Heck, 1:08:14.800 --> 1:08:16.680 Patrick Homes still does it, but he has such a 1:08:16.680 --> 1:08:18.599 special arm he gets away with it. Somehow he backs 1:08:18.680 --> 1:08:20.400 up the fifty yards and just throws it up. I 1:08:20.439 --> 1:08:22.840 have no idea how he gets with it. Not a 1:08:22.960 --> 1:08:26.920 offensive tackles nightmare, um. But the ones who are consistently 1:08:27.000 --> 1:08:30.840 great or they move forward, they climbed the pocket. You 1:08:30.920 --> 1:08:35.680 make a great point because don't forget too Lawrence was 1:08:35.760 --> 1:08:39.080 not under pressure very often in college. Um, he might 1:08:39.120 --> 1:08:41.559 have been under what I consider pressure. Everybody has their 1:08:41.600 --> 1:08:44.160 different sense of pressure, but I think of pressure in 1:08:44.520 --> 1:08:46.280 terms of the NFL. And I know Tony you would 1:08:46.280 --> 1:08:50.439 agree with this. You know, Uh, he wasn't really under 1:08:50.439 --> 1:08:53.080 pressure more than thirty five or forty past attempts at 1:08:53.080 --> 1:08:55.960 Clemson this past year. True pressure. So he has to 1:08:56.000 --> 1:08:59.320 get used to working out of a noisy, muddied pocket 1:08:59.720 --> 1:09:02.120 where there are people around him, but that's not really 1:09:02.200 --> 1:09:05.559 pressure by NFL standards. And you make a great point. 1:09:05.800 --> 1:09:08.439 The the response to that, if you're not used to 1:09:08.479 --> 1:09:12.599 it is to drift either sideways or backwards, and you 1:09:12.640 --> 1:09:16.680 cannot drift backwards in the NFL. You mentioned Mahomes. You know, 1:09:16.720 --> 1:09:18.920 you have to put that aside. He's just a different 1:09:18.920 --> 1:09:20.920 cat and he can make these throws that a lot 1:09:20.920 --> 1:09:24.799 of people can, but you cannot move backwards versus pressure 1:09:24.840 --> 1:09:26.840 in the NFL. Greg, you know you it's a great 1:09:26.840 --> 1:09:29.599 point and interesting, And you talked about the first play 1:09:29.680 --> 1:09:31.320 that was the sack fumble and that you know he 1:09:31.320 --> 1:09:33.639 held it a little bit long stayed on. Marvin Jones Jr. 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:36.120 Should have got the channault. But you know, the positive 1:09:36.160 --> 1:09:38.719 for me on that play was he stood there tall 1:09:38.760 --> 1:09:41.400 in the pocket. Now he followed it, but he stood there. 1:09:41.479 --> 1:09:44.240 He wasn't getting nervous as it got crowded in there, 1:09:44.280 --> 1:09:45.920 and he was still looking down the field. He just 1:09:45.920 --> 1:09:48.559 didn't find the right person and didn't get off. But 1:09:48.640 --> 1:09:50.719 at least and you've seen this, and this is always 1:09:50.720 --> 1:09:54.840 worries me, is in that situation, eyes go down, you 1:09:54.880 --> 1:09:57.960 start getting happy feet, you're looking for an exit, and 1:09:58.000 --> 1:10:01.439 he didn't. I actually like the sack fumble. As an 1:10:01.439 --> 1:10:04.519 offensive lineman wouldn't liked it, but I appreciate in the 1:10:04.560 --> 1:10:08.200 evaluation here's the guy standing tall and is not getting 1:10:08.439 --> 1:10:12.080 nervous when everything's collapsing. Yeah, and I think that's a 1:10:12.120 --> 1:10:15.400 really good point because a lot of young quarterbacks and 1:10:15.400 --> 1:10:17.400 and and let's think of it this way, Well, Trevor 1:10:17.439 --> 1:10:20.160 Lawrence has mobility and as a plus athlete for a 1:10:20.160 --> 1:10:23.519 man that size. When all said and done, guys, he's 1:10:23.520 --> 1:10:25.880 going to make his bones in this league as a 1:10:25.920 --> 1:10:28.840 pocket player. Yes, does he have the ability to get outside? 1:10:29.000 --> 1:10:31.080 Can you run some design run game stuff with him? 1:10:31.080 --> 1:10:34.240 You can, but he's ultimately going to be a pocket quarterback. 1:10:34.400 --> 1:10:36.880 And I think that's a great point instead of just 1:10:37.040 --> 1:10:40.800 immediately playing the pocket, which is a hard thing to 1:10:40.880 --> 1:10:43.320 teach a guy to stay in the pocket if he 1:10:43.360 --> 1:10:46.160 doesn't have that natural trait to begin with, that's a 1:10:46.160 --> 1:10:48.799 hard thing to teach. And Tony, you're right, he didn't 1:10:48.840 --> 1:10:51.479 look to leave the pocket at any point in this game. 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:56.160 Great coat with us from NFL Films, ESPNS NFL matchup 1:10:56.200 --> 1:10:59.400 as well. Uh, just going back to the college shape, Greg, 1:10:59.439 --> 1:11:01.960 I know you dug deep on this on all these 1:11:02.080 --> 1:11:08.360 quarterback prospects. How does his accuracy, arms strength, ability to 1:11:08.439 --> 1:11:11.240 push it down the field compared to some of the 1:11:11.680 --> 1:11:14.640 maybe the old time guys in those departments. Is he 1:11:14.760 --> 1:11:18.160 right up there near the top at least as a prospect. Well, 1:11:18.240 --> 1:11:21.000 let's j P. Let's take a step back from it here. 1:11:21.040 --> 1:11:23.200 I know that Keever came out with this idea that 1:11:23.280 --> 1:11:25.520 he was, you know, an all time or to start. 1:11:25.520 --> 1:11:28.599 You know, I think he's a talented kid. He's a 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:31.160 big kid. There's no problem with his arm strength. That 1:11:31.280 --> 1:11:34.800 does he have an absolute gun I wouldn't say as 1:11:34.800 --> 1:11:36.879 a gun, but there's no problem with his arm strength. 1:11:37.320 --> 1:11:39.760 I think one thing that stood out and you didn't 1:11:39.760 --> 1:11:41.559 see it very often, but you asked me, you know, 1:11:42.080 --> 1:11:45.320 if he has any things that were concerning and it 1:11:45.439 --> 1:11:49.320 showed up two years ago in playoff games and even 1:11:49.360 --> 1:11:51.679 this year in a playoff game. Is he's a little 1:11:51.680 --> 1:11:53.920 bit of a strider when he throws his He's a 1:11:53.960 --> 1:11:57.519 body thrower, and he steps into his throws. So the 1:11:57.560 --> 1:11:59.840 one thing that you want to see is how he 1:12:00.040 --> 1:12:03.439 handles himself when there's pressure up the middle in his face, because, 1:12:03.439 --> 1:12:06.799 like I said, he's a step thrower, and at times 1:12:06.840 --> 1:12:10.000 in college that there were times that he struggled a bit. 1:12:10.200 --> 1:12:12.760 He'd hurry his mechanics and he would become a little 1:12:12.800 --> 1:12:16.040 scattered shot high. So again, I'm not gonna sit here 1:12:16.080 --> 1:12:18.320 and tell you that's a weakness and he can't play. 1:12:18.360 --> 1:12:20.479 But that's just something that I think you need to 1:12:20.520 --> 1:12:23.760 be aware of, and that's based purely on tape study. 1:12:24.200 --> 1:12:26.000 Gret go Sell with us. How about a few other 1:12:26.040 --> 1:12:29.479 debuts this week? In preseason Week one, Josh Fields had 1:12:29.520 --> 1:12:32.040 a day for the Bears. Trey Lance had a long 1:12:32.120 --> 1:12:35.080 past play, but he was five or fourteen. Zach Wilson 1:12:35.120 --> 1:12:38.559 got out there for the Jets. Mac Jones was fairly 1:12:38.560 --> 1:12:41.200 efficient for the Patriots. Which of those guys you think 1:12:41.240 --> 1:12:45.360 will have the most impact right away? Greg, Well, we 1:12:45.400 --> 1:12:49.120 know Zack Wilson's gonna start, so I don't think there's 1:12:49.160 --> 1:12:51.920 a question there. My guess is justin Fields will as well. 1:12:52.240 --> 1:12:55.320 But Zack Wilson, I think is in an offense that 1:12:55.400 --> 1:12:58.040 does fit what he brings to the table. It's really 1:12:58.080 --> 1:13:01.479 the forty Niners offense because Michael Floor, who's Matt's brother 1:13:01.520 --> 1:13:04.920 and who's with thet He's bringing the Kyle Shanahan offense, 1:13:04.920 --> 1:13:07.439 which features a lot of designed movement, and you can 1:13:07.479 --> 1:13:10.479 see that Wilson is comfortable with play action boot He's 1:13:10.520 --> 1:13:14.240 an easy thrower on the move, He's got light feet. Um, 1:13:14.320 --> 1:13:17.559 I think that this style of offense fits him well. 1:13:18.000 --> 1:13:20.879 So obviously there's other factors as to whether a quarterback 1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:25.559 succeeds or doesn't succeed, But I think that stylistically and 1:13:25.560 --> 1:13:28.679 and structurally, the offense that he's in with the Jets 1:13:28.880 --> 1:13:32.080 fits him. If you look at all the guys, Greg, 1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:35.720 last question for me that JP just talked about at 1:13:35.760 --> 1:13:37.639 some point this year, will all of them be starters 1:13:37.680 --> 1:13:41.920 in the NFL? Um? I mean, I'm sure Justin Fields 1:13:41.920 --> 1:13:46.800 will be sooner than later. Uh. I guess the Cam 1:13:46.840 --> 1:13:49.920 Newton situation would depend on how he plays, because I 1:13:49.920 --> 1:13:52.000 think there'll be a running football team playing with a 1:13:52.080 --> 1:13:55.519 lot of two tight ends. Um. I think Trey Lance 1:13:55.520 --> 1:13:57.880 depends on Garoppolo because Lance, you know, he had that 1:13:57.960 --> 1:14:00.439 long touchdown, which was a play they love. They've run 1:14:00.479 --> 1:14:02.920 it in the regular season with great success over the 1:14:02.960 --> 1:14:06.840 last number of years. Um. But Plants was very unsettled. 1:14:06.880 --> 1:14:09.000 He needs to be more settled in the pocket. He 1:14:09.040 --> 1:14:11.200 needs to calm down a bit. He threw the ball 1:14:11.200 --> 1:14:14.719 a little too hard on plays that required touch and pace. 1:14:15.360 --> 1:14:18.839 So we'll see. I would bet Garoppolo will end up starting, 1:14:18.840 --> 1:14:20.920 and then it will depend on how they do because 1:14:20.920 --> 1:14:24.240 the Niners have a good football team. We always learn 1:14:24.280 --> 1:14:26.600 a lot when Greg co sell is on our programs, 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:28.280 and it's great to have you again. It's been a 1:14:28.280 --> 1:14:30.680 little bit. Appreciate you coming on today and give us 1:14:30.720 --> 1:14:33.640 some insight to Trevor Lawrence and some young quarterbacks. It's 1:14:33.640 --> 1:14:35.880 always good to see Greg. You always get smarter when 1:14:35.920 --> 1:14:39.600 Greg coel comes on the program. Thank you sir, all right, 1:14:39.640 --> 1:14:42.439 guys really appreciate that. Thanks so much. 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A j 1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:43.280 camp played very solid, gave a one of pressure, but 1:18:43.439 --> 1:18:46.880 he's uh, he's been really solid all the way through. 1:18:46.960 --> 1:18:49.840 Lendar didn't play much obviously, Norwell has got one more 1:18:49.840 --> 1:18:52.720 week out. But Parts actually did okay in there. So 1:18:53.160 --> 1:18:56.160 we're developing that third guard which we need and the 1:18:56.280 --> 1:19:00.439 third tackle right now. Walker a little struggle, which he 1:19:00.439 --> 1:19:03.439 would and he's playing low hands for some reason, and 1:19:03.479 --> 1:19:05.720 it was on and really fast, so he's got to 1:19:05.760 --> 1:19:07.320 get a lot of reps. We're counting on him. And 1:19:07.320 --> 1:19:10.040 he had a really good training camp, so we gotta 1:19:10.080 --> 1:19:13.800 get him going. That's head coach urban Meyer discussing the 1:19:13.840 --> 1:19:17.639 offensive line. Welcome back to Jaguars, Happy our j P, Shadrick, 1:19:17.720 --> 1:19:20.400 Tony Boselli, Pete Brisco is out here. We'll be He'll 1:19:20.439 --> 1:19:21.800 be back with us in a couple of weeks. Our 1:19:21.880 --> 1:19:24.759 thanks to Greg Cosell, like great insight at the quarterback 1:19:24.760 --> 1:19:28.639 position and Trevor Lawrence's debut Saturday night and a few 1:19:28.640 --> 1:19:32.120 other names around the NFL. Time now for keeping it Real, 1:19:32.240 --> 1:19:35.880 presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mondavi. Open up a winner today, 1:19:36.080 --> 1:19:41.800 Real Ingredients Award winning wine by Robert Mondavi. So we're 1:19:41.840 --> 1:19:45.960 gonna keep it real. As we discussed the offensive line, 1:19:46.000 --> 1:19:48.200 we heard from urban Meyer there. That was this morning 1:19:49.000 --> 1:19:50.880 our first chance to catch up with the head coach 1:19:51.400 --> 1:19:56.360 since Saturday and his performance. So the question is Cam 1:19:56.439 --> 1:20:00.160 Robinson left tackle, Jowan Taylor right tackle, walk are a 1:20:00.200 --> 1:20:03.720 little You heard the head coach urban Mine right there, 1:20:03.760 --> 1:20:07.120 so they didn't really play struggled. He said, would you 1:20:07.400 --> 1:20:10.880 start giving little reps with the first team at some 1:20:11.000 --> 1:20:14.000 point and when would that be and would you at 1:20:14.000 --> 1:20:17.559 all I'm less worried about giving reps of the first team. 1:20:17.640 --> 1:20:21.240 I definitely would want him out there. Um, it could 1:20:21.240 --> 1:20:23.519 be a great opportunity against the Saints. Go get go, 1:20:23.600 --> 1:20:28.120 get some real defensive end work. And not that he 1:20:28.120 --> 1:20:29.960 hasn't in practice, I'm saying, but he didn't see real 1:20:30.040 --> 1:20:33.240 NFL defensive ends. I mean he saw guys who might 1:20:33.280 --> 1:20:35.640 be backups, were past walk guys, you know for the 1:20:35.640 --> 1:20:37.400 Browns because they were playing there down the long list. 1:20:37.840 --> 1:20:39.360 I mean, you're gonna be on Monday Night football. You know, 1:20:39.360 --> 1:20:41.040 the Saints are gonna play their front front line guys. 1:20:41.080 --> 1:20:44.040 I'd get him reps against those guys. Um, let me 1:20:44.080 --> 1:20:45.679 go taste it, because he has a ton of ability. 1:20:45.720 --> 1:20:50.679 And Urban's right, he didn't have to have a great game. Now, 1:20:51.120 --> 1:20:52.720 the fighting thing is, it's not he got beat and 1:20:52.760 --> 1:20:55.040 got the quarterback killed. It was just his technique was terrible. 1:20:55.240 --> 1:20:57.200 His hands were off. He still got guys blocked, but 1:20:57.240 --> 1:20:59.920 it was it was ugly. And I think what Urban 1:21:00.040 --> 1:21:02.759 saying is a good player would have given him trouble, 1:21:03.400 --> 1:21:07.519 a lot of trouble. Um, I agree with when a 1:21:07.640 --> 1:21:09.599 j can a J can's a good player. Linda didn't 1:21:09.600 --> 1:21:11.599 play a lot. I agree with that. Um. I think 1:21:11.640 --> 1:21:14.960 he was Um I'll give him the Bennett. I'll agree 1:21:14.960 --> 1:21:16.680 with him from the standpoint of what he's seen in 1:21:16.760 --> 1:21:18.599 Jowan Taylor because he's watching a lot more than I 1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:20.800 have during Camp. But I would agree with him on 1:21:20.840 --> 1:21:26.200 the assessment of how Juwan played in the game. Not great. Um, 1:21:26.400 --> 1:21:27.880 what do you say about Cam? He thought camp played 1:21:27.920 --> 1:21:30.360 really well. He thought he played well. Yeah, I thought 1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:34.360 he played fine. Yeah. I mean it wasn't dominating or anything. Um, 1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:37.240 he played fine. I would agree that. So yeah, But 1:21:37.360 --> 1:21:40.400 Walker Little, I want to get him reps. I want 1:21:40.400 --> 1:21:45.519 to put pressure on Juwan Taylor and Cam Robinson and 1:21:45.560 --> 1:21:48.960 I want to see and Walker and he he needs reps. 1:21:49.240 --> 1:21:53.519 It's circle all the way back to what I said 1:21:53.720 --> 1:21:56.679 at the beginning about who plays how much they play. 1:21:57.000 --> 1:22:03.000 Trevis Lawrence needs Trevor Trevor Trevor Trevor Lawrence Brother. We've 1:22:03.000 --> 1:22:06.960 got to head myself with ETI Uh, Trevor Lawrence needs reps, 1:22:07.520 --> 1:22:14.000 Eten needs reps, Tyson Campbell needs reps, Walker Little needs reps. 1:22:14.040 --> 1:22:16.760 The rookies, if you're gonna count on them and you're 1:22:16.800 --> 1:22:20.240 gonna expect production out of them this year to help 1:22:20.280 --> 1:22:24.040 you win games, they need reps. You can't give him enough. 1:22:24.080 --> 1:22:26.439 And I love the fact that Urban kept Walker little 1:22:26.479 --> 1:22:28.760 at left tackle for three quarters. He was out there 1:22:28.760 --> 1:22:31.160 a long times. Good for him a long time. Now 1:22:31.200 --> 1:22:33.600 give I want to see him get some reps, you know, 1:22:33.600 --> 1:22:36.200 with that first unit against the top the uh you know, 1:22:36.280 --> 1:22:38.559 the top rushers from the Saints. Walker was one of 1:22:38.600 --> 1:22:42.200 the top. He was actually the guy who played the 1:22:42.240 --> 1:22:49.080 most place, plays the place, you know, in the regular season. 1:22:49.280 --> 1:22:51.840 To play sixty seventy I understand that I'm just saying 1:22:51.840 --> 1:22:54.400 in that and that's how much he played. I agree, 1:22:54.479 --> 1:22:57.400 But my point is he needs reps. I mean, I 1:22:57.439 --> 1:22:59.920 haven't played in two years, and he's gonna be fine. 1:23:00.479 --> 1:23:03.120 It'll be good. So I think Urban was I think 1:23:03.200 --> 1:23:07.920 Airban's assessment, um was was a fair one. I think 1:23:07.920 --> 1:23:09.960 he was pretty honest there, which he typically is with 1:23:10.000 --> 1:23:13.880 the players. I think, so, yeah, yeah, all right, there 1:23:13.880 --> 1:23:15.560 you have it. That's keeping it real. Presented by a 1:23:15.560 --> 1:23:18.599 Woodbridge by Robert mun Dave Open Up a winner today 1:23:18.720 --> 1:23:23.680 Real Ingredients Award winning wine by Robert. When does the 1:23:23.680 --> 1:23:27.439 Woodbridge case come in for us? I have yet to 1:23:27.479 --> 1:23:30.600 see one in the office. I thought the Woodbridge, I 1:23:30.600 --> 1:23:33.000 thought this, maybe it's not getting past the mail room. 1:23:33.000 --> 1:23:36.120 I don't know why this man dab segment, Woodbridge segment. 1:23:36.160 --> 1:23:38.640 We're going to pour a glass of red for you 1:23:38.680 --> 1:23:40.840 and I and sip on the red as we talked 1:23:41.200 --> 1:23:44.160 in front of the fireplace about our as we answer 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:47.320 social questions, muse and muse about our feelings about the 1:23:47.320 --> 1:23:50.559 football team. Well, that would be quite an evening. I 1:23:50.680 --> 1:23:54.960 look forward to that at some point, Tony. Is that allowed, Joe? No, 1:23:55.240 --> 1:23:57.040 I don't think it is. Is there? Like, is it 1:23:57.080 --> 1:24:02.000 in all seriousness? Because you know obviously everyone I'm joking? Um? 1:24:02.200 --> 1:24:05.439 Is there? Maybe it depends on the answer to this 1:24:05.520 --> 1:24:08.040 next question, whether I'm joking or not. Is there like 1:24:08.080 --> 1:24:11.959 some FTC rule that you're not allowed to have TC? 1:24:12.120 --> 1:24:15.920 What does f TC stand for? Tony? What's the what's 1:24:15.960 --> 1:24:20.600 the CC? Federal Communications Commission? I thought there's a T 1:24:20.760 --> 1:24:27.320 in there, so exactly f c C? Is there some Joe? 1:24:27.439 --> 1:24:29.800 Is there f c C regulation you're not allowed to 1:24:29.880 --> 1:24:34.080 have consume alcohol on the air? I from what I understand, 1:24:34.120 --> 1:24:37.920 you cannot, Yeah, put alcohol to your lips? That's a 1:24:38.000 --> 1:24:42.000 really that's a rule. Yeah? How in school, like I 1:24:42.200 --> 1:24:44.799 didn't go to I know, you ever see a beer commercial? 1:24:44.880 --> 1:24:48.680 They don't really drink beer. Get close now on podcast 1:24:48.760 --> 1:24:51.720 they do, though it's not over the air, well they do. 1:24:52.120 --> 1:24:54.280 What do you mean it's not over the air, like 1:24:54.479 --> 1:24:57.880 literally over the air when I downloaded it comes through 1:24:58.040 --> 1:25:01.960 the air. To my it's not a broadca Hast transmission. 1:25:02.560 --> 1:25:05.800 That's what they do. So I'm cure I didn't know, 1:25:06.240 --> 1:25:10.120 you know, because in Major League, Yeah, it's a movie. Yeah, 1:25:10.640 --> 1:25:14.720 what's his name, Harry Doyle? And no, the uh the 1:25:15.640 --> 1:25:20.320 Major League Joe the announcer, who's the announcer? Who is 1:25:20.439 --> 1:25:22.800 the announcer? Doyle was his name in the movie, And 1:25:22.920 --> 1:25:25.080 it's bobb Yuer Bob Uker. That's how I could think 1:25:25.080 --> 1:25:27.840 about bob Yucker broke open a bottle of bourbon on 1:25:27.960 --> 1:25:31.920 the air. It's a movie. I'm just saying. 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You know, so much of the 1:29:32.240 --> 1:29:36.120 first game was I mean the conversation we had about 1:29:36.160 --> 1:29:39.640 only get him a series, only get ten plays and um, 1:29:40.439 --> 1:29:42.160 And I think it was a great learning lesson that. 1:29:43.560 --> 1:29:46.680 You know, it's called a plan to win. When you 1:29:46.880 --> 1:29:49.479 start the game and they go right down to field, 1:29:49.520 --> 1:29:51.479 pick a field goal and we knock it out to 1:29:51.520 --> 1:29:53.200 the eight team. I think it's a ten yard line. 1:29:53.880 --> 1:29:56.160 And the worst penalty in football is when you see 1:29:56.240 --> 1:29:59.519 that none of your offense is backed up. And so 1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:03.920 just talking about how the every drive council, that's when 1:30:03.960 --> 1:30:06.639 you're only talking about sixty plays three hours of football. 1:30:06.800 --> 1:30:10.040 That's the big change for a lot of players and coaches. 1:30:10.720 --> 1:30:12.680 You only getting a couple of drives a half, you know, 1:30:12.880 --> 1:30:16.519 or in ecology, you know your eight ninety plays a 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:19.240 lot of times. So every play's gotta count, every drive's 1:30:19.240 --> 1:30:23.880 gotta count. Urban Meyer earlier today and welcome back Jaguars 1:30:23.920 --> 1:30:27.879 Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick, Tony Baselli no beat Brisco 1:30:28.040 --> 1:30:32.720 tonight and it's time for social media questions. Tony, it's 1:30:32.760 --> 1:30:36.479 your favorite time of each and every show where we 1:30:36.720 --> 1:30:38.599 dig into the mail bag. We put out the bat 1:30:38.760 --> 1:30:42.200 signal earlier today on social media and here are the 1:30:42.280 --> 1:30:45.240 best that we've come up. My favorite segment. We've got 1:30:45.280 --> 1:30:49.639 a bunch of them tonight, Number one tonight from at 1:30:49.720 --> 1:30:53.559 General of Duval. Should C. J. Henderson start Week one? 1:30:54.200 --> 1:30:57.280 No idea, It's way too early. Um. I think he's 1:30:57.320 --> 1:30:59.519 been out with a total of three practices full at 1:30:59.560 --> 1:31:02.960 patent Um, so let's give it some time, pretty straight. 1:31:03.080 --> 1:31:06.240 But going into the game Saturday, out there again today, 1:31:06.280 --> 1:31:09.720 which is great. He was rees today. It's a better 1:31:09.800 --> 1:31:12.160 team if C. J. Henderson's you're starting corner because he's 1:31:12.200 --> 1:31:15.160 a good football player, but you have to be available. Um, 1:31:15.439 --> 1:31:17.840 he's had some off the field issue. When I say issues, 1:31:17.920 --> 1:31:20.240 it's you know, we're not sure what they are, but 1:31:20.320 --> 1:31:22.080 he's had some sort of health issues, whether it's the 1:31:22.120 --> 1:31:25.040 betterment of like physical health, mental health. I have no idea, 1:31:25.439 --> 1:31:26.800 and by the way, it's none of my business. It's 1:31:26.840 --> 1:31:29.400 none of any of our business until it does. You know, 1:31:29.479 --> 1:31:31.080 if you can't play, then they'll let us know why. 1:31:31.760 --> 1:31:33.760 But all I know is we're a better team with 1:31:33.800 --> 1:31:35.720 him out there. And he played well in the first 1:31:35.760 --> 1:31:39.719 preseason game. He showed his ability, had the one miss tackle. 1:31:39.840 --> 1:31:41.720 But you haven't had that many reps out there. I'm 1:31:41.760 --> 1:31:45.519 not overly concerned with that. Had a couple of past breakups. Um, 1:31:45.600 --> 1:31:47.840 I like our secondary. If he started in one corner, 1:31:48.320 --> 1:31:49.840 you got Shakie Griffin at the other, and you have 1:31:49.880 --> 1:31:52.519 Tyson Campbell's your nickel. Pretty good, pretty good right there, 1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:55.479 pretty athletic, pretty fast. Let's see how the rest of 1:31:55.520 --> 1:31:59.280 camp and the preseason goes with him. Next question at 1:31:59.520 --> 1:32:03.920 s Boss seven, can Tony see pushing Taylor inside the 1:32:04.040 --> 1:32:06.240 right guard since Adalis had him doing better there because 1:32:06.280 --> 1:32:09.240 of his power instead of footwork, pushing Cam to right tackle, 1:32:09.280 --> 1:32:11.360 and putting Walker at left tackle since he was literally 1:32:11.400 --> 1:32:13.960 like a wall Saturday night. I think at most I 1:32:14.000 --> 1:32:16.920 saw him getting pushed three to four steps back. That's 1:32:16.920 --> 1:32:20.400 a long series of thoughts. Yeah, so one Walker Little 1:32:20.520 --> 1:32:22.400 is a big man in physical but we talked about 1:32:22.439 --> 1:32:24.120 he has a lot of work to do. I do 1:32:24.280 --> 1:32:26.439 think he ultimately can be a start will be a 1:32:26.479 --> 1:32:29.720 starting tackle here we left or right, Um, because he 1:32:29.760 --> 1:32:32.200 has that kind of talent. He's athletic, he's powerful, he's 1:32:32.200 --> 1:32:34.640 a naturally big man. Um. I'm not sure why you 1:32:34.640 --> 1:32:37.719 would move um Juwan Taylor into right guard when maybe 1:32:37.720 --> 1:32:39.200 the guy who played the best football in any of 1:32:39.240 --> 1:32:41.599 your offensive line and last year was a J. Cannon 1:32:42.280 --> 1:32:45.000 and a J Cann Everyone's gonna pay attention to first 1:32:45.000 --> 1:32:47.680 play where if the ball is out on time, it's 1:32:47.880 --> 1:32:50.880 late pressure, ball was held, end up getting a sack. 1:32:51.600 --> 1:32:53.560 Um offensive line is always gonna get blamed for it, 1:32:53.760 --> 1:32:56.320 even if it's not completely their fault. Go watch the 1:32:56.360 --> 1:32:58.040 rest of the game. Every play from that he was 1:32:58.080 --> 1:33:01.000 pretty much physically domin He was very good last year. 1:33:01.040 --> 1:33:02.800 A J Can's went your best offensive lignment. So no, 1:33:03.000 --> 1:33:05.960 I'm not moving Jwan Taylor inside to take a J 1:33:06.160 --> 1:33:12.680 Can's job. They want to start to write and now 1:33:12.760 --> 1:33:14.400 if you wanted to move Cam to right tackle and 1:33:14.479 --> 1:33:16.720 go compete with Juwan Taylor, because you wanted to walk 1:33:16.760 --> 1:33:20.120 a little possibly later this year. Walker little's got to 1:33:20.160 --> 1:33:22.800 get better right now, He's not. He's not better than 1:33:22.880 --> 1:33:26.400 Cam a left tackle at this point today, right this 1:33:26.479 --> 1:33:31.400 seconds not based one we saw on the tape. Could 1:33:31.439 --> 1:33:34.400 he could? He could be better at right than Juwan 1:33:35.040 --> 1:33:37.759 right now? I don't know, tell me when I see it, Okay, 1:33:38.920 --> 1:33:40.360 I mean all you can go buy is the tape, 1:33:41.000 --> 1:33:43.599 not what we want, not what you hope not you're 1:33:43.720 --> 1:33:46.280 based on your bias or your feelings or whether I 1:33:46.360 --> 1:33:49.360 did last year did or you didn't like either, Like 1:33:49.720 --> 1:33:52.320 so if I watched the tape, can perform better than 1:33:52.360 --> 1:33:58.320 walk a little? Okay? Camp should play? Next question from 1:33:58.439 --> 1:34:02.600 at the Underschool Jacks fans six one five on d 1:34:03.160 --> 1:34:06.120 how did the run fits look on tape? We all 1:34:06.200 --> 1:34:08.080 believe it will be crucial to stop the run, not 1:34:08.160 --> 1:34:11.320 only this year, but every year. Hashtag go Jags. You 1:34:11.400 --> 1:34:14.639 know what, You're right, It is crucial to stop the run, 1:34:14.800 --> 1:34:16.920 not only this year, whatever year. If I were to 1:34:17.280 --> 1:34:20.200 get Jacks fan six one five on the phone or 1:34:20.360 --> 1:34:22.880 the Underscore Jacks fan six one five on the phone 1:34:23.520 --> 1:34:25.479 and asked him to give me the definition of a 1:34:25.720 --> 1:34:29.120 run fick, what does he What does that mean? I 1:34:29.200 --> 1:34:30.920 know what it means, but I'm saying, dude, do you 1:34:30.960 --> 1:34:33.720 think he knows that a run like J What if 1:34:33.800 --> 1:34:37.400 that's actually you know, like the linebacker coach China. If 1:34:37.439 --> 1:34:39.680 I would ask you JP, give me a description of 1:34:39.760 --> 1:34:42.400 run fits the way I understand it, it's fitting the 1:34:42.600 --> 1:34:46.680 gaps up front. So everybody has a gap top. So 1:34:46.760 --> 1:34:48.800 if you're a one if you're one gap defense, it's 1:34:48.880 --> 1:34:51.800 so if I'm the one technique and my responsibility is 1:34:51.880 --> 1:34:54.519 the front side a gap, I'm run fitting into that gap. 1:34:54.800 --> 1:34:57.320 If it's a two gap defense, it's different because now 1:34:57.880 --> 1:35:01.000 I'm reading the man and I'm playing two very simple 1:35:01.080 --> 1:35:04.840 So okay, um, overall run fits, Um I did. I'll 1:35:04.840 --> 1:35:06.960 be honestly, I didn't study the defense that first Sea 1:35:07.040 --> 1:35:09.519 where I watched like every single play and watched the 1:35:09.960 --> 1:35:12.960 I watched individual play more than anything for this first 1:35:13.000 --> 1:35:15.280 preseason game. Typically, the way I watched the preseason is 1:35:15.320 --> 1:35:19.920 watched individuals. Less about scheme UM, more individual. I thought 1:35:20.240 --> 1:35:25.200 Von Hamilton's very good. I thought, um dwant Smoot played 1:35:25.200 --> 1:35:27.759 the solid game, Malcolm Brown flashed, had some good players, 1:35:27.800 --> 1:35:32.719 got in the backfield UM twelve times for fifteen yards 1:35:32.760 --> 1:35:37.759 on the first half. Robertson, Robertson, Roy Robertson, Harris, Robertson, 1:35:37.880 --> 1:35:45.760 Harris Um, Robertson, Harris, Roy Robertson, Harris. I know, I'm 1:35:45.760 --> 1:35:47.400 just calling by his last name, just like I called 1:35:47.439 --> 1:35:50.000 Brown by his last name, and like I called Hamilton 1:35:50.080 --> 1:35:54.880 by his last names. Have two last names, Robertson, We 1:35:55.000 --> 1:35:59.400 has double last names. Right, go ahead, so didn't count. 1:35:59.560 --> 1:36:01.880 Just as if it's that's a great question, it's all 1:36:01.960 --> 1:36:05.760 one word. If it's hyphens, it's one name. Robinson, Harris, Robertson. 1:36:06.120 --> 1:36:11.000 That's why I said Robinson er Okay, go ahead, Robertson, 1:36:11.439 --> 1:36:13.680 we know who you're talking about. Okay, since you say it, then, 1:36:14.160 --> 1:36:16.720 Roy Robertson, Harris, Robertson, Harris, thank you. That's what I 1:36:16.760 --> 1:36:19.519 said the first time. Good job. You know you're really 1:36:19.600 --> 1:36:23.599 being mean spirited. I wish we had Pete back here. Robertson, Harris. 1:36:24.400 --> 1:36:28.599 Um was good and solid and physical and big. Um. 1:36:28.760 --> 1:36:30.920 None of the guys I mentioned are great pass rushers. 1:36:31.000 --> 1:36:33.439 Might means wants by the best of them, I thought, 1:36:33.479 --> 1:36:35.840 Chas and some good run you know they've got pass rushing. 1:36:36.360 --> 1:36:38.560 Josh Allen had some good pass rushes, but overall the 1:36:38.600 --> 1:36:42.240 run defense was very good, which is what you want. 1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:44.559 That's good. That's a good start. But now then again, 1:36:45.400 --> 1:36:50.639 Brown's junior varsity was out there. Yes, no starters none, 1:36:51.800 --> 1:36:55.400 two best backs not there, top receivers not there, top 1:36:55.479 --> 1:36:59.240 tight end not there, starting line not their quarterback not there. 1:36:59.520 --> 1:37:02.920 You were playing the j B second team. That should 1:37:02.920 --> 1:37:05.479 have been the keeping it real segment right there. But 1:37:05.640 --> 1:37:09.160 we'll see. Hey, you know, it's a good start though, goodtitive. 1:37:10.040 --> 1:37:12.519 They ran them out there. So next question from Jay 1:37:12.560 --> 1:37:16.759 Hopkins b g S question for you, JP, it seemed 1:37:16.840 --> 1:37:19.640 to me when you interviewed Urban after the game that 1:37:19.720 --> 1:37:22.040 he was more upset about losing free season than other 1:37:22.120 --> 1:37:25.080 head coaches have been mid season. Did it come across 1:37:25.160 --> 1:37:31.000 that way to you, great show, No, I think he 1:37:31.280 --> 1:37:34.360 was a negative ghost writer. The pattern is full, thank you. 1:37:34.560 --> 1:37:38.400 I think that he was frustrated with some of those situations. 1:37:38.439 --> 1:37:41.120 We heard him talk about the holding on the kickoff 1:37:41.200 --> 1:37:43.960 return and the field position was not great and they 1:37:44.360 --> 1:37:46.400 didn't execute a couple of times in the fourth and 1:37:46.479 --> 1:37:49.040 one play it didn't work out, And I think he 1:37:49.160 --> 1:37:51.840 said going into the game, you know the results you 1:37:51.960 --> 1:37:54.200 want to win the game, but there are more important 1:37:54.439 --> 1:37:58.400 things to a preseason game in the actual final score. 1:37:58.520 --> 1:38:01.400 Some other coaches would think differently on that that we've 1:38:01.439 --> 1:38:05.640 seen around here. Um, every coach mid season is going 1:38:05.760 --> 1:38:08.320 to have a much different idea of that than they 1:38:08.439 --> 1:38:11.960 do in the preseason. So I'm not sure what that was. 1:38:12.160 --> 1:38:15.600 If you have a game like that opening day and that, 1:38:15.760 --> 1:38:20.360 then I think he'll share his postgame interview pleasure would 1:38:20.400 --> 1:38:24.760 be interesting. I'll say that good luck, let's hope it 1:38:24.800 --> 1:38:29.960 doesn't win all Yeah, I agree with that. Let's move along. 1:38:30.040 --> 1:38:36.800 Next question at Jags eight. Five thoughts on pass rush 1:38:37.080 --> 1:38:38.960 and it was the first preseason game, but should we 1:38:39.040 --> 1:38:41.200 be concerned with the lack of pass rush? Guys weren't 1:38:41.200 --> 1:38:44.120 getting enough pressure to affect quarterbacks and didn't seem to 1:38:44.120 --> 1:38:46.519 be getting home on blitz is Tony Oh my goodness, 1:38:47.439 --> 1:38:49.519 remember one the one thing that he said that was right, 1:38:49.600 --> 1:38:52.320 Please don't panic, um, if you want to look at 1:38:52.360 --> 1:38:55.519 pass rush, Josh Allen had very few raps. A couple 1:38:55.520 --> 1:38:57.240 of you did. He had a good inside pass work 1:38:57.280 --> 1:39:01.519 and got pressure. Um, so I can't even get warmed up. 1:39:02.160 --> 1:39:06.479 And uh ca, Levan Chason had two really good pass 1:39:06.560 --> 1:39:09.840 rushes that stood out where he won Alan played twelve 1:39:09.880 --> 1:39:11.800 snap here's the thing, and how many of those were 1:39:11.800 --> 1:39:16.120 actually pass rushing situations? You know, not many. The ball 1:39:16.240 --> 1:39:18.240 was out quick case Keenom's a veteran. It was a 1:39:18.320 --> 1:39:21.120 lot of short passing. You know, he hit the third step, 1:39:21.200 --> 1:39:23.640 hit the fifth step. It's out. It's hard to hit 1:39:23.680 --> 1:39:26.800 the quarterback when that's happening. And so um I would not. 1:39:28.040 --> 1:39:31.560 I'm I'm concerned about it overall for the season, Like 1:39:31.720 --> 1:39:34.439 where is the pass rush gonna come? We talked about 1:39:34.479 --> 1:39:36.519 that last week with Pete on this show. So I 1:39:36.560 --> 1:39:40.000 think I think it's a fair question to ask. What 1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:42.439 happened in the preseason game has zero impact on my 1:39:43.479 --> 1:39:46.920 being happy or sad or scared or optimistic about it. 1:39:47.439 --> 1:39:50.000 Doesn't change your feelings from anything, not one bit. Okay, 1:39:51.040 --> 1:39:54.960 next question from at deston Ray fort nine. Let's cut 1:39:55.040 --> 1:39:59.080 the team, sir. That's not a question. Yeah, that's a statement, 1:39:59.160 --> 1:40:00.600 and Pete's not here to do it for you, so 1:40:00.680 --> 1:40:02.400 I will not do that. The first cut is tomorrow, 1:40:03.080 --> 1:40:06.600 deadline down, dude, that they're gonna go from. See, I 1:40:06.680 --> 1:40:08.920 knew this. I had this argument, and you know what 1:40:09.200 --> 1:40:11.519 if Frank and Jeff are listening right now. Joe, you 1:40:11.560 --> 1:40:13.840 were in the booth and I said, there's multiple cuts, 1:40:14.080 --> 1:40:16.160 one every week, every two. What did they say, Joe, 1:40:16.280 --> 1:40:19.120 put your ma Tell what they said? Tell me. I 1:40:19.200 --> 1:40:23.600 want you to say it. Say it. He doesn't remember. No, 1:40:23.760 --> 1:40:28.280 it's all one cuts. Correct. No, there's one every Tuesday, Frangie, 1:40:28.479 --> 1:40:31.400 don't ever question me again. I'm always right. It goes 1:40:31.479 --> 1:40:35.679 to five tomorrow, next Tuesday it goes from eighty five 1:40:35.800 --> 1:40:38.800 to eighty and then the next Tuesday it's down tote 1:40:39.240 --> 1:40:42.000 with basically two weeks to the regular season. I knew it. 1:40:43.320 --> 1:40:46.760 And there's gonna be people available for the practic squad. Yes, 1:40:47.320 --> 1:40:50.479 those rules are the same as Yes, all that's the 1:40:50.600 --> 1:40:52.840 same from last year, but the cut is different this year. 1:40:53.080 --> 1:40:56.400 Any surprises on this first cut, I think on the 1:40:56.479 --> 1:40:59.360 first cut there won't be many surprises, right, I mean 1:40:59.680 --> 1:41:02.920 it was it. The only team I heard is like 1:41:03.120 --> 1:41:07.640 in like so like ridiculous. Tim Tebow just got I 1:41:07.760 --> 1:41:12.560 was getting killed on Twitter last night, just killed, not 1:41:12.720 --> 1:41:17.880 just in Jacksonville like national um. But the interesting thing 1:41:17.920 --> 1:41:21.759 about Tim Tebow to me was not the miss blocks 1:41:22.680 --> 1:41:25.760 or any of that stuff that happens in football by 1:41:25.760 --> 1:41:30.400 the way, and he's a brand new tight end. He's uh. 1:41:30.680 --> 1:41:32.560 Those other guys are paid across the line, and it 1:41:32.680 --> 1:41:36.280 just so I could critique that. I can walk through it. 1:41:36.360 --> 1:41:38.479 We've talked about it, Jeff and I have talked about it. 1:41:38.720 --> 1:41:41.519 There's a physicality that needs to work on, so unforth, like, 1:41:41.720 --> 1:41:45.840 I don't like it got too much the memes. It 1:41:45.920 --> 1:41:47.439 was too much to man, Come on, give me the 1:41:47.479 --> 1:41:50.800 guy a break, because I I could literally go through 1:41:50.880 --> 1:41:57.280 Hall of Famers tape and show embarrassing box. That's just 1:41:57.360 --> 1:42:00.679 not I don't I don't like stuff like that anyway. Anyways, 1:42:01.160 --> 1:42:03.960 the bigger thing I'd be concerned about. He was the 1:42:04.000 --> 1:42:06.439 only tight end that didn't play in any special teams none, 1:42:06.800 --> 1:42:08.760 zero snaps. And typically if you're gonna be a down 1:42:08.800 --> 1:42:12.639 the line tight end or that move tight end slash fullback, 1:42:13.240 --> 1:42:18.519 you were playing on special teams because you're not going 1:42:18.560 --> 1:42:22.720 to be kept if you otherwise. And so I'm not 1:42:22.800 --> 1:42:24.800 saying he's gonna be a first cut, but that was 1:42:24.880 --> 1:42:28.800 surprising to me JP that he was not, because you 1:42:28.840 --> 1:42:30.880 would think if his point, if your plan was that 1:42:31.040 --> 1:42:34.280 Tim Tebow on this roster as your fourth or fifth 1:42:34.320 --> 1:42:36.919 tight end or fourth, fifth, tight end s, last fullback 1:42:37.720 --> 1:42:41.040 which we've seen him running practice. UM that he would 1:42:41.040 --> 1:42:44.680 be on special teams and so that was that was 1:42:44.800 --> 1:42:47.280 like the light went off. I'm like, oh, this isn't 1:42:47.320 --> 1:42:49.960 because he got other guys you know, going ten reps 1:42:50.000 --> 1:42:56.439 on special teams. That's the high water markets. Luke Farrell 1:42:56.520 --> 1:42:59.080 had eight snaps on special teams. Yeah, the tight end list. 1:42:59.400 --> 1:43:02.839 Man Hurts I saw out there for kickoff returns. Farrell 1:43:02.920 --> 1:43:08.320 had eight. Uh Davis had five snaps on special teams. 1:43:09.400 --> 1:43:14.360 Shaunessy had two snaps on special and had six. Man 1:43:14.479 --> 1:43:18.880 Hurts had one. Managed to the starter and you hadbody 1:43:18.920 --> 1:43:21.960 else had at least one, and he was on kickoff returns. 1:43:22.000 --> 1:43:24.280 I remember seeing him and he's a starter. I was 1:43:24.439 --> 1:43:27.679 shocked that Teabo got no reps. I would be concerned 1:43:27.720 --> 1:43:31.040 if I was UM a player who was trying to 1:43:31.120 --> 1:43:33.280 make this roster on the down at the bottom of 1:43:33.280 --> 1:43:35.080 the roster, which Tim Tebo was clearly trying to do. 1:43:35.200 --> 1:43:37.000 He's not gonna be the Starter's not gonna be the second. 1:43:37.040 --> 1:43:39.240 He's not a dynamic pass catcher. That's not his role. 1:43:39.800 --> 1:43:42.719 He's they they've been moving him a move tight end block, 1:43:42.960 --> 1:43:47.160 you know, in the fullback at fullback position. If that 1:43:47.360 --> 1:43:49.679 was my role and I'm not on any special teams, 1:43:49.680 --> 1:43:52.799 I'd start looking around going, um, hey, I can cover kicks, 1:43:53.080 --> 1:43:57.200 raise my hand, hey, I can blocks. What do you 1:43:57.240 --> 1:43:59.560 want to do, coach? Coach put me in because you 1:43:59.680 --> 1:44:03.880 have to contribute there if you're gonna make this roster. So, um, 1:44:04.000 --> 1:44:07.160 I spring that up because cuts are coming tomorrow. Yes five. 1:44:07.160 --> 1:44:09.120 I'm not saying he's getting cut. Um, I have no 1:44:09.120 --> 1:44:12.600 idea who's getting cut? Um? Urban North Trent called me, 1:44:12.720 --> 1:44:15.800 give me asking me. Didn't know. I'm shocked they should. 1:44:16.000 --> 1:44:17.800 I mean, I know they're new and all guys, but 1:44:18.439 --> 1:44:20.400 Tony's on the wall. You know, they understand that he 1:44:20.479 --> 1:44:22.880 has to go through me. I mean, like to ask you, 1:44:23.240 --> 1:44:24.840 you'll tell them. By the way, no one in the 1:44:24.960 --> 1:44:26.920 history of this franchise has ever called me and asked me. 1:44:29.160 --> 1:44:32.080 I had plenty opinions every years, a player or not, 1:44:32.240 --> 1:44:34.639 but that no one asked me. And I'm also curious. 1:44:35.040 --> 1:44:37.360 Urban touched on a little bit today. The effort of 1:44:37.400 --> 1:44:39.600 all these guys put through it. It's kind of be 1:44:39.680 --> 1:44:41.559 about the first time he's had to cut cut. I mean, 1:44:41.600 --> 1:44:45.280 he's probably he's running people off. Don't get the guys 1:44:45.320 --> 1:44:47.920 are going through offseason and training camp and his first 1:44:48.360 --> 1:44:50.240 time to have to sit down across the desk and 1:44:51.160 --> 1:44:54.400 it's hard. It well, everyone hates it. I've had to 1:44:54.439 --> 1:44:58.000 fire people in my my professional crew before and it's miserable. 1:44:58.120 --> 1:45:00.360 It's no fun. You don't want to dude that. No 1:45:00.400 --> 1:45:02.920 one wants to do that, especially when someone's worked hard 1:45:03.000 --> 1:45:05.840 and giving you everything they got and you still to 1:45:05.880 --> 1:45:09.080 tell him sorry. That's why it's different than running a 1:45:09.120 --> 1:45:13.000 guy off at college because urban he's a bad guy. 1:45:13.840 --> 1:45:15.840 It's like it's easy, like just get out, Like I'm 1:45:15.880 --> 1:45:18.200 tired of giving you four chances. Yeah, that's enough. But 1:45:18.280 --> 1:45:20.800 when you are doing everything the coaches ask and you're 1:45:20.800 --> 1:45:22.960 working your tail off and you're just not good enough, 1:45:23.040 --> 1:45:25.080 and you, as the indivials, have to tell that guy 1:45:25.160 --> 1:45:29.599 that not fun. For one final social media question from 1:45:29.600 --> 1:45:31.920 that Jacob Reinhardt too all right, Tony, which do you 1:45:32.000 --> 1:45:35.880 like being on Better Colin Calherd or Jaguar's Happy Hour? 1:45:36.000 --> 1:45:38.400 And he submitted a photo of you on television with 1:45:38.560 --> 1:45:41.320 cow heard today. I'm a I'm a I'm a loyal 1:45:41.439 --> 1:45:44.599 Jaguar dot Com. I don't think there's a better host 1:45:45.320 --> 1:45:49.120 in the nation on radio than JP. So I'll choose 1:45:49.200 --> 1:45:55.519 JP every day of the week. How about that. That's 1:45:55.720 --> 1:45:58.760 that's high praise. Appreciate that, coins but at it for 1:45:58.760 --> 1:46:01.240 a long time. Collin's great love Gong been on the 1:46:01.280 --> 1:46:02.960 show several times. I think he's one of the best 1:46:03.120 --> 1:46:07.000 radio people, uh, in the business. What do you have 1:46:07.040 --> 1:46:09.160 to say about what he does? Before I get that? 1:46:09.280 --> 1:46:12.160 What he does is remarkable to me. He literally carries 1:46:12.240 --> 1:46:14.360 a three or four hour show seven days or five 1:46:14.439 --> 1:46:17.160 days a week by himself, with guests like you know, 1:46:17.200 --> 1:46:19.400 how hard is just to talk into a mic for 1:46:19.520 --> 1:46:24.280 three straight out? And Jim Rome It's like, what it is? Unreal? 1:46:25.160 --> 1:46:27.559 I mean it's not easy. Um. And so I think 1:46:27.600 --> 1:46:29.479 he's one of the best. Um, what do you have 1:46:29.560 --> 1:46:31.080 to say about that? But I still choose to be 1:46:31.160 --> 1:46:34.040 with you JP. Just asking about it was a lot 1:46:34.080 --> 1:46:36.479 of Trevor. It was let me, let me give you 1:46:36.520 --> 1:46:39.000 the gist of the interview, which is most which is 1:46:39.960 --> 1:46:41.920 this is what people want to know. It's actually tell 1:46:41.960 --> 1:46:44.320 me about urban. How's it going with Urban? Tell me that, Trevor, 1:46:44.560 --> 1:46:47.640 how's it going? Trevor? I mean, that's the And then 1:46:47.680 --> 1:46:49.320 he asked me a question about Gardner Minshew if I 1:46:49.320 --> 1:46:50.920 thought he was a starting quarterback or not in the NFL, 1:46:52.080 --> 1:46:54.040 um I said, on a team that wants to contend 1:46:54.080 --> 1:46:56.840 for a championship and for the playoffs, I do not 1:46:56.920 --> 1:46:59.160 think he's really started. I don't think he's a franchise quarterback. 1:46:59.600 --> 1:47:02.800 That's my opinion. Um. I said that last year. Um 1:47:03.920 --> 1:47:05.760 I think, is is he a guy that if you 1:47:05.840 --> 1:47:07.760 are looking for a transition, can you start and win 1:47:07.840 --> 1:47:10.800 using football games? Sure? Could he be like a Ryan 1:47:10.880 --> 1:47:16.400 Fitzpatrick type of player? Sure? In time? I think yeah, 1:47:16.479 --> 1:47:19.800 I mean immediately, which I don't. I don't think he's 1:47:19.840 --> 1:47:23.200 a if I'm building a franchise, he's not my starting quarterback. 1:47:25.640 --> 1:47:27.680 Like I mean, if you're trying to go win a championship, 1:47:29.080 --> 1:47:31.760 I mean nothing against them. I love the competitiveness, I 1:47:31.840 --> 1:47:35.600 love his like work, hard, grit, all those things. But 1:47:35.680 --> 1:47:38.519 if you're asking me honestly, like I think he's a 1:47:38.720 --> 1:47:40.960 good really good backup if you if you have a 1:47:41.000 --> 1:47:43.040 franchise quarterback that can come in and win games when 1:47:43.080 --> 1:47:47.680 the guy's out until he gets back, if you're transitioning, 1:47:47.760 --> 1:47:50.880 looking for that in between before till you find the guy. Okay, 1:47:51.920 --> 1:47:53.760 if I'm trying to win a championship by building my 1:47:53.800 --> 1:48:00.479 team around Um Gardner. I'm not others might. Social questions 1:48:00.520 --> 1:48:03.080 are in the book. 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He'll be back a 1:51:42.200 --> 1:51:45.960 couple of weeks. I can collapse. In the background. There 1:51:46.000 --> 1:51:49.840 are people buzzing about this show tonight, Tony Award winning, 1:51:49.880 --> 1:51:52.400 highest ratings ever. I'm gonna tell you this one is 1:51:52.520 --> 1:51:54.559 right up there, almost as good as the one when 1:51:54.600 --> 1:51:57.599 you were gone in London. Well, I know your dad prefers. 1:51:58.200 --> 1:52:01.360 Pete's gone more than me. I know that for a fact. 1:52:01.400 --> 1:52:08.400 I got inside sources that Mr Shaddick prefers show. I mean, 1:52:08.439 --> 1:52:11.360 who doesn't really, I mean, if you don't, then there's 1:52:11.439 --> 1:52:13.400 you know, maybe there's something wrong now and for everyone 1:52:13.520 --> 1:52:15.240 next week you gonna have to just I mean, the 1:52:15.280 --> 1:52:17.120 good news is we'll be playing the Saint. You can 1:52:17.200 --> 1:52:20.160 listen to the broadcast on the radio Public Sailgate show 1:52:20.240 --> 1:52:23.839 four o'clock. I'm sorry, I keep saying it's at eight o'clock, 1:52:23.960 --> 1:52:27.719 kick eight o'clock here for three hours before is five o'clock. 1:52:28.680 --> 1:52:30.240 And so what was told there would be no math 1:52:30.360 --> 1:52:32.479 to know a lot of pregame stuff will be on it. 1:52:32.640 --> 1:52:37.200 But Unfortunately, there will be no Monday Night show next weekend. Um, 1:52:37.320 --> 1:52:39.639 due to contract issues. I will not be here on Tuesday. 1:52:40.479 --> 1:52:43.439 You're not coming in to do the backup show. No, 1:52:44.479 --> 1:52:48.360 what's not Joe said, I didn't have to go. Joe 1:52:48.439 --> 1:52:52.000 negotiated my contract. He said no Tuesdays only Mondays. Uh. 1:52:54.520 --> 1:52:57.720 He was a hard line restive. I think the other 1:52:57.760 --> 1:52:59.880 reason is because I don't think we have any airtime Tuesday. 1:53:00.600 --> 1:53:02.600 We could, I mean create it if we needed to. 1:53:02.760 --> 1:53:04.880 I think that's probably Monday nights. We'll be back in 1:53:04.960 --> 1:53:07.840 two weeks from now. Yeah, the Monday Night show of course. 1:53:07.880 --> 1:53:10.439 Now this week coming up Wednesday, it's Huddle Up with 1:53:10.520 --> 1:53:14.639 Bucky Brooks Wednesday afternoon, four o'clock on Jaguars dot Com. 1:53:14.800 --> 1:53:17.840 I'll tell you one of the best editions we made. 1:53:18.240 --> 1:53:20.280 It was last year and he had a role in 1:53:20.360 --> 1:53:22.800 his roles expanding. It was Bucky Brooks. Bucky Brooks, if 1:53:22.800 --> 1:53:25.439 you've ever not have you ever seen him, former teammate 1:53:25.520 --> 1:53:27.880 of mine, if you ever saw him, if you ever 1:53:28.240 --> 1:53:30.320 get a chance to see him on the NFL network, 1:53:30.360 --> 1:53:32.479 I believe it is it is. Um. I get confused 1:53:32.520 --> 1:53:35.360 with all the different stations. He is really good and 1:53:35.479 --> 1:53:37.760 he does a great job, and the addition of him 1:53:37.800 --> 1:53:40.280 to our team has been a great one. I know 1:53:40.400 --> 1:53:43.800 he if you watched if if you were unfortunate enough 1:53:43.880 --> 1:53:47.160 not to hear the radio on Saturday night, which I 1:53:47.240 --> 1:53:49.519 know that was much listening for everybody to listen to 1:53:49.600 --> 1:53:52.600 Jeff and I, um, I'm sure him and I know 1:53:52.760 --> 1:53:55.280 him and Brian Sexon did a great job doing the TV. 1:53:57.080 --> 1:54:00.560 He's he's, he's he is, so he's so good and 1:54:01.160 --> 1:54:03.400 and so what's this Wednesday show? I mean, it's uh. 1:54:03.680 --> 1:54:05.400 We used to call it Happy Hours Huddle Up with 1:54:05.479 --> 1:54:08.120 Bucky Brooks. We've made that the podcast in the offseason 1:54:08.200 --> 1:54:10.640 called it huddle Up because it was Wednesday midweek kind 1:54:10.680 --> 1:54:12.920 of thing, you know, And we put it out in 1:54:12.920 --> 1:54:15.840 the morning, so it wasn't Happy Hour at nine am 1:54:16.080 --> 1:54:19.519 last I checked most places. No, it's gonna be in 1:54:19.560 --> 1:54:22.520 the afternoon. We're gonna call it Huddle Up with Wednesday's 1:54:22.560 --> 1:54:28.439 four o'clock dot com Bucky good luck. Try to get 1:54:28.439 --> 1:54:30.639 the second place, because you're never gonna get the first place. 1:54:30.680 --> 1:54:33.920 There's only one first place on this network, and that's 1:54:33.960 --> 1:54:38.440 the Monday night show without Basselly Because the Prisco when 1:54:38.520 --> 1:54:40.520 when you were in London is number one. This is 1:54:40.760 --> 1:54:44.000 a close second. Let's let's be clear. The dame of 1:54:44.040 --> 1:54:49.480 this show is BESSELLI, Shadrick and sometimes Pe Prisco here 1:54:49.480 --> 1:54:52.200 at the top of the marquee. Uh there, come on, JP. 1:54:52.720 --> 1:54:55.160 Is there any doubt about that? I don't know, man, 1:54:55.960 --> 1:54:59.320 I don't know. No. But and then and then Thursday 1:54:59.360 --> 1:55:04.400 we have coaches happy and I'll I'll be joining weeks. 1:55:04.440 --> 1:55:08.760 I'm on the road doing Thursday night football. Now we 1:55:08.800 --> 1:55:10.840 have a great lineup. The team does great. I'm looking 1:55:10.880 --> 1:55:13.160 for this is good time in the morning. Oh, it's great. 1:55:13.200 --> 1:55:16.160 There's so much and I'm not self promoting here, all seriousness. 1:55:16.240 --> 1:55:18.520 Bucky coming on is great. Jeff obviously always does a 1:55:18.600 --> 1:55:22.160 great job. J p Ashland, Brian Sexton, you know, Joe 1:55:22.280 --> 1:55:27.360 making the whole engine run so um who joined us 1:55:27.360 --> 1:55:29.600 and I did forget about him? So anyways, good stuff 1:55:29.640 --> 1:55:32.840 and the hope is and we saw, you know, a 1:55:33.000 --> 1:55:39.400 snippet on Saturday night of this Jaguar team. Um, some good, 1:55:39.480 --> 1:55:44.680 some bad, some ugly. You know, probably I found. You know, 1:55:45.800 --> 1:55:48.400 it was interesting because going into the game and going 1:55:48.440 --> 1:55:53.560 into camp, there was so much excitement because Urban and 1:55:53.640 --> 1:55:56.840 Trevor and and to the point because it happened back 1:55:56.920 --> 1:56:01.080 in February or in the January hired or been excitement 1:56:01.160 --> 1:56:04.480 have the first of all pick free agency, Okay, not 1:56:04.600 --> 1:56:07.120 as much excitement, maybe as usual because it wasn't the big, 1:56:07.160 --> 1:56:10.120 big splash guy but a good pleaser skill Griffriend and uh, 1:56:10.840 --> 1:56:12.600 it's spent a lot of free agency money they had, 1:56:13.720 --> 1:56:19.959 but they didn't get like everyone wanted, like whatever, But anyways, excitement. 1:56:20.120 --> 1:56:26.240 Then the draft comes Lawrence who excitement and it's just 1:56:26.600 --> 1:56:29.120 you have O, T A and and like there's this 1:56:29.320 --> 1:56:32.920 fever pitch and I think people were like, we are 1:56:33.760 --> 1:56:35.600 super like we were in the super Bowl, like we 1:56:35.680 --> 1:56:39.680 are ready, here we go domination. Depending on who you asked, Yeah, 1:56:39.960 --> 1:56:41.840 I mean and I felt it, which is good, that's 1:56:41.840 --> 1:56:43.200 what you wanted, fans. But then you got into the 1:56:43.200 --> 1:56:44.600 preseason game and all of a sudden you're playing the 1:56:44.600 --> 1:56:47.800 Browns backups. It doesn't go so well. I think that's 1:56:47.840 --> 1:56:51.040 good from this standpoint. Hey, little like, we have work 1:56:51.120 --> 1:56:53.040 to do. That doesn't mean we're not gonna be a 1:56:53.080 --> 1:56:56.160 good team. That doesn't mean Urban was it. I mean 1:56:56.320 --> 1:56:58.720 Urban's great, Trevor's great, we got all these great players, 1:56:59.120 --> 1:57:01.240 but it's the reality ality check is that we have 1:57:01.400 --> 1:57:04.600 a this is uh what's the old saying? Rome wasn't 1:57:04.600 --> 1:57:08.320 built in a day break by It's a process. You 1:57:08.400 --> 1:57:09.680 have to lay a foundation, you have to do the 1:57:09.720 --> 1:57:12.200 hard work. You have to get in the details, you 1:57:12.280 --> 1:57:13.880 need the reps, you need to go on the same page, 1:57:13.920 --> 1:57:16.280 and it's gonna take a process. It's gonna take time. 1:57:16.840 --> 1:57:20.760 Um and so everyone just take a deep breath. Don't panic. 1:57:21.400 --> 1:57:24.960 It's okay. It wasn't great. Some good stuff, some bad stuff, 1:57:25.000 --> 1:57:28.480 some of this stuff, but don't panic. It'll be okay 1:57:29.280 --> 1:57:31.640 as long as we keep on getting the error point 1:57:31.680 --> 1:57:35.360 in the right direction so that this thing hits a 1:57:36.240 --> 1:57:40.360 um crescendo. Come Houston. We have to kick it off 1:57:40.360 --> 1:57:44.400 for real, because that's what matters everything. All you're trying 1:57:44.440 --> 1:57:46.480 to do is get the building blocks in place where 1:57:46.520 --> 1:57:48.680 you can put your best foot forward and have your 1:57:48.720 --> 1:57:52.200 best performance when you play Houston, and then you know 1:57:52.240 --> 1:57:54.480 what you do after that. Then you start building again 1:57:54.760 --> 1:57:56.800 and try to have your best performance whoever we play 1:57:56.800 --> 1:58:00.920 the next week, Denver Broncos. How much do you charge 1:58:00.960 --> 1:58:03.800 an hour for these sessions? Tony? I should charge I'm 1:58:03.840 --> 1:58:07.040 thinking about opening a website self help with this is 1:58:07.120 --> 1:58:11.280 Tony Boselli. I'm listening than to steal Fraser's line, right, 1:58:12.840 --> 1:58:15.120 you're helping a lot of people right down. I mean, 1:58:15.640 --> 1:58:19.280 do you disagree. Yeah, that's the first preseason. Yeah, it's 1:58:19.320 --> 1:58:22.400 a whole new, the whole things new. Yeah, you got 1:58:22.480 --> 1:58:25.360 a month to the regular season and then that's when 1:58:25.400 --> 1:58:28.400 it really meant Now, like we said earlier, if that 1:58:28.680 --> 1:58:33.000 happens Week one in Houston, okay, alarm bells might ring 1:58:33.080 --> 1:58:35.800 a little bit, but you got a month until all 1:58:35.880 --> 1:58:38.720 that goes down. A couple of quick NFL notes, Cam 1:58:38.800 --> 1:58:41.080 Newton or Mac Jones. Who's gonna start in New England? Tony, 1:58:41.640 --> 1:58:43.960 I think Cam starts the opening day. I think by 1:58:43.960 --> 1:58:46.240 the end of the year, Mac Jones is your starter. 1:58:46.640 --> 1:58:50.000 Seahawks made a final offer to fifth year safety Jamal Adams. 1:58:50.200 --> 1:58:54.120 Will he play in Seattle? And he'll play? And it 1:58:54.200 --> 1:58:56.400 makes sense to said, if you're an player, short career 1:58:56.480 --> 1:58:59.960 is too short. And Dalton the number one quarterback in Chicago, 1:59:00.040 --> 1:59:03.200 Go Fields needs more reps. Will he be the starter 1:59:03.280 --> 1:59:06.720 at some point sooner before the season ends? Fields will 1:59:06.720 --> 1:59:08.960 be a starter in a Dalton will start the season. 1:59:09.080 --> 1:59:11.240 They have a good football team, good defense. There, there's 1:59:11.240 --> 1:59:13.520 a look around the NFL. That's how we roll. Because 1:59:13.600 --> 1:59:16.760 we had our session with Tony Boselli that calm everybody 1:59:16.880 --> 1:59:20.200 can breath. Peter me back with us in a couple 1:59:20.200 --> 1:59:22.839 of weeks. We're off next Monday because of Monday Night Football. 1:59:22.880 --> 1:59:26.320 The Jags and the Saints coming up. Great show, Tony, JP, 1:59:26.600 --> 1:59:30.000 thanks to John Osier, thanks to Greg Cosal, Joe Fortunado, 1:59:30.040 --> 1:59:33.280 Brent Reebert Trimpadia. I'm JP, Shadrick and we will catch 1:59:33.320 --> 1:59:35.720 you next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars 1:59:35.800 --> 1:59:36.560 Digital Network.