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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August sixteen. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is presented by Jet Home Loans and

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Speaker 1: now a guy whose contract says he only gets two

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Speaker 1: series till September. J P. Welcome Man's Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: on a Monday. We are Pete Frisco free today. It's

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Speaker 1: a ratings bonanza on this Monday afternoon. J P. Shadrick

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli in a busy show ahead preseason week one review.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars lost to the Cleveland Browns Saturday night at

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Speaker 1: t I A. Bank Field. We'll hear from senior writer

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Speaker 1: John oderan studio in about fifteen minutes to recap practice

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Speaker 1: number fourteen of training camp. Today, some pants issues, it

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Speaker 1: sounded like NFL films At ESPN producer and analyst Greg Cosell,

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Speaker 1: we'll join us at five o'clock and talk quarterback play

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and a few other rookie debuts in preseason

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Speaker 1: week one around the NFL. Social media questions are rolling

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Speaker 1: in today without Pete here, and we'll go around the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Tony, good afternoon, Good afternoon. Who are

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Speaker 1: you texting right now? What is going on? We're doing

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Speaker 1: a radio show Tony. Uh, what is going on? I'm

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Speaker 1: texting our good friend Jeff Wagman. Okay, well that's no,

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Speaker 1: it's really not Sorry, sorry, welcome, welcome to radio here.

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Speaker 1: We are, well listen with no Pete? I whoever? I want?

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Speaker 1: I guess? So yeah, no pizza Minnesota. By the way,

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Speaker 1: covering the vikings today, poor excuse for first preseason games.

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Speaker 1: They CBS sent an entire television set table like we

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Speaker 1: have here in studio, and like what an anchor and

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Speaker 1: They didn't do that here. I mean, what are we

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Speaker 1: doing Pete? Does anyone really want to see Pete on TV? No?

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Speaker 1: I mean I agree with you. That's what's happening. Though. Um,

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Speaker 1: how do you feeling after Saturday night about the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: squad in Tony? You know, not much different than I

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Speaker 1: did before. I mean, it's the first preseason game. What

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Speaker 1: I mean, typical overreaction. It would have happened the other

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Speaker 1: way too, if they come out and lit it up.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, book tickets in l A. We're going

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. And now they had a bad game,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, they're not gonna win a football

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Speaker 1: game this year. It's like, come on, it's somewhere in between. Um.

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Speaker 1: The panic button here is that every everybody has their

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Speaker 1: it's ready to click it. Part of that is because

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Speaker 1: it's been this team has struggled for a long time outside,

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Speaker 1: so you you have a hard time of having being

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Speaker 1: optimistic and you want to see results. But it's the

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Speaker 1: first preseason game. You can't overreact. Um, was it good? No,

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Speaker 1: it wasn't good. Definitely positive, but it wasn't where you

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Speaker 1: wanted to be, not guarantee herb. It was frustrated. Probably

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Speaker 1: sounded like you have your first today, you have your

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Speaker 1: first offense, first defense. You're playing against backups, and you're

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Speaker 1: not being You're not being productive. Forgot the wins or

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Speaker 1: losses of the overall game. I'm just looking at that

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Speaker 1: first quarter, quarter and a half, you and your starters

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Speaker 1: out there, you're not productive. Trevor Lawrence Trevor Lawrence on

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Speaker 1: his backside play one, Yeah, I mean that's frustrating. Um. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: But you know the first thing that came to mind

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Speaker 1: after that game when I woke up Sunday morning. You

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Speaker 1: ever see Smoking in the Bandit? The original? Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: Burt Reynolds, Sally Fields great one of the number first

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Speaker 1: but that's my whole point was a long way to go,

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Speaker 1: they won one game last year JP losing skid right now,

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Speaker 1: you don't fix it overnight, and and you know, are

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Speaker 1: because that's like overall, were there positives? Yes, plenty? Okay, Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: Let's hear from Urban Meyer. He spoke before practice today.

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Speaker 1: You know it is against his nature to hold things

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Speaker 1: Tony why? First of all, me and Herb, I'm aligned

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Speaker 1: and I asked, same thing, why oh do show a thing? Really?

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Speaker 1: You know what show anything already? I can tell you

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Speaker 1: There's no secrets. It's football, and maybe there's nuances here there,

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Speaker 1: but guess what after week one everyone's I mean, I'm

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Speaker 1: the other teams to see what they might do with him. Right, Okay,

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Speaker 1: they better practice what they want to do. Right. Then.

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Speaker 1: That's Urban's point too, is that I'd love to see

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you think he needs reps? JP, he thinks

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, Hey, guys need reps. The game of football

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Speaker 1: have no pete Prisco. Can someone tell me one thing

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Speaker 1: But I don't need a preseason. I don't need practice.

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Speaker 1: And so this whole thing of resting guys and not

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Speaker 1: tape and that's what that's what that's what they're gonna be. John,

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Speaker 1: what do you make of the Joe Schobert trade to Pittsburgh? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I felt like a guy who was not going to

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Speaker 1: have nearly the role here he did last year. Felt

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Speaker 1: like Damien Wilson was going to start in base and

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Speaker 1: then Miles Jack was their best nickel backer. H And

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Speaker 1: Urban kind of went away from this when he was

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Speaker 1: asked on Saturday, but he just feel like it wasn't

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Speaker 1: a scheme fit. And when the rest of the league

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Speaker 1: knows you're trying to get rid of a guy, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to get a lot of value. Okay, So John,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you a question, because I have the

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Speaker 1: philosophy that if you're gonna get rid of a player,

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Speaker 1: whether trade them or cut them, but do you have

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Speaker 1: somebody on their rosters who you can replace them with.

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Speaker 1: It's better that you get better, especially in the trade,

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Speaker 1: or you get some future compensation that makes you better.

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Speaker 1: They believe that the combination of Wilson and Quarterman, we'll

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Speaker 1: do that. That's they're thinking your thoughts where if you

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Speaker 1: were looking at the linebacking cores. For my opinion, I

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Speaker 1: would have said Schobert was your third best linebacker, especially

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Speaker 1: in nickel. But if he doesn't fit what you do, okay,

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Speaker 1: but nickel he does fit. But are you paying them

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Speaker 1: all that money for one down? It's not one down?

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Speaker 1: Your defense is nicol. On top of that, you're paying

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Speaker 1: his guaranteed money still and by the way, you got

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Speaker 1: a six rounder. That's it and so long term, I

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Speaker 1: get that he is not the thumper that you need

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Speaker 1: at mic linebacker in this ske but the majority of

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Speaker 1: football today has played in third down and sub personnel.

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Speaker 1: And my question is if Joe Schobert is your third

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Speaker 1: best linebacker and maybe your second best nickel linebacker, and

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Speaker 1: maybe he's not, maybe I don't view him that is,

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Speaker 1: did you get better? And are you better off replacing

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Speaker 1: him with whoever? Who? I mean, who who's gonna pay?

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Speaker 1: Who's your number one nickel is a Damian Wilson? Or

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Speaker 1: how about this they could play a little dimeond bringing

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Speaker 1: a safety down closer. Then you're missing point what I

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Speaker 1: mean I get. The only thing I view you saved

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Speaker 1: here is you cleaned up your cap a year earlier

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Speaker 1: because you're gonna take your major cap hit this year

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Speaker 1: and spread it out, but you're still paying his guaranteed money.

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Speaker 1: It's not like you have cap pressure this year anyways. Right.

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Speaker 1: They didn't believe that he even at their coverage scheme

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Speaker 1: the way that they wanted it too. So I tend

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Speaker 1: to agree with you. You're giving away who a guy

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Speaker 1: who has proven in the NFL, and you're paying m

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money. I didn't quite get it, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's their approach, and I'm all for it. If you five,

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Speaker 1: if you have, if you're trying to free up. And

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Speaker 1: here's what I don't know, maybe they love one of

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Speaker 1: these younger guys that Joe Schobert, while better today, was

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Speaker 1: gonna take reps from them. They open the door up

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Speaker 1: to one of these younger guys. That's what I don't know, Quarterman.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that he's better than Schobert in

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Speaker 1: Nickel's situation. Yeah, that I'm talking to Nickel first, Like, listen,

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Speaker 1: Joe Chobert does not fit the system in first and

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Speaker 1: second down. He's not a thumper. You need a thumper

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna play three for He's not physical enough.

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Speaker 1: I agree, with Trent or Urban or Joe Cole and

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Speaker 1: whoever made this isn't I'm a pcent on board there.

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Speaker 1: From a cover standpoint, I get that you want to

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Speaker 1: Von and paying him that much money probably didn't make sense,

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Speaker 1: but you've already it's a sunk cost and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay a portion of his guaranteed money anyways. And so

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Speaker 1: unless he wasn't going to play as much in nicol

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Speaker 1: as we thought, and then I guess the trade tells

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Speaker 1: me that's the case. I don't know this is the

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Speaker 1: case and that and and so that's the one thing

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Speaker 1: I just don't know. Maybe there's just guys on this

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Speaker 1: roster that are younger that they want reps for. And

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Speaker 1: if that's the case, and if you're Trent in Urban,

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Speaker 1: well it might not make sense in the immediate Do

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Speaker 1: you have a long term view? I can buy that. John.

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Speaker 1: We're on the practice field today standing next to each other.

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Speaker 1: When Trevor Lawrence was in red zone seven on seven

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Speaker 1: work carving up defenses again and we've seen that a

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Speaker 1: lot in the practice field. What did you make of

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Speaker 1: his performance the other night Saturday Night? Was fifteen plays?

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Speaker 1: Was big third down throws? Stand out um pretty to

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Speaker 1: start two things. There's still a lot of work to

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Speaker 1: do for him though. Well. The ability the other night

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Speaker 1: to recover and come from being behind and down on

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Speaker 1: distance early and still getting the first down. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was impressive and encouraging. And I you guys have

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Speaker 1: seen it every practice. Uh, with a couple of exceptions.

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Speaker 1: There has been a play or a stretch of plays

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Speaker 1: where you walked away sort of nodding and going, okay,

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Speaker 1: that's what it is today. It was in the red

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Speaker 1: zone right before that red zone really had a really

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Speaker 1: nice past to Pharaoh Cooper in seven on seven I believe.

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Speaker 1: And then three or four consecutive plays in the red

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Speaker 1: zone where he's got the zip on the ball and

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Speaker 1: he's got the touch and he he throws it in

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Speaker 1: the right way to get it there, meaning he doesn't

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Speaker 1: necessarily have to put a lot of air on it

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Speaker 1: to get into the corner of the end zone. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He can throw it with zip, he can throw the

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Speaker 1: he's got a natural feel for how to throw the

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Speaker 1: ball down there, and he's got the arm talent to

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Speaker 1: do it. And I, Antony, you've seen it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I was around Peyton. You worked for the Colts. The

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Speaker 1: you saw Peyton unbelievable, uh mental approach the game, and

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Speaker 1: he had the physical ability to do it, but he

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Speaker 1: didn't have the physical ability the arm, the natural arm

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Speaker 1: of this guy. Uh. You know, time will tell if

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Speaker 1: he can, if Trevor has that mental capacity for the game.

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Speaker 1: But I've never apologies to our boy Marker. Now, I've

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Speaker 1: never been around a quarterback that has this sort of

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Speaker 1: physical tools. It's special. And he doesn't have to get

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Speaker 1: to uh Manning's mental capacity because I don't think anyone

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Speaker 1: else is in his game, right, I mean, what makes

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Speaker 1: Manning But in that rain, Roger's Brady Manning, but one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest ever. He number one. I think he

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Speaker 1: was took it to a whole level. First of how

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Speaker 1: he did it, and he was unbelievable and Brady and

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Speaker 1: Rogers meant Breeze is another one. But I mean just

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Speaker 1: the knowledge of the game and the approach and what

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Speaker 1: Manning did is a high bar. But you're right about

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence as a skill set that Manning never had.

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Speaker 1: And that's the athletic ability. Number one, just feet run.

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Speaker 1: No one's gonna worry about Peyton Manning running away from you,

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Speaker 1: and there are throws he makes that are just different.

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Speaker 1: He has he has this, he has a he has

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Speaker 1: a arm that will remind you of the Always the Rogers,

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Speaker 1: the Farbs. Um, we think it's he has the accuracy

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Speaker 1: to we got to see that over probably a larger

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Speaker 1: ask you because you were a big lay fan. Aren't

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Speaker 1: the same as always lays arm? Yeah? Yeah, that's hard

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Speaker 1: because I was a kid when I watched it, so

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Speaker 1: like her, I remember when you're a kid. But he

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Speaker 1: Trevor reminds me. I don't think he's as thick as

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Speaker 1: Elway was big, but he but he's John was like

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Speaker 1: the first like super athletic guy who played the position

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Speaker 1: that way anier throw in an era where no one

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Speaker 1: wanted you to leave the pocket. Um, Trevor has that

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Speaker 1: type of same athletic a bill as as John Elway.

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Speaker 1: I mean different. You know, it's hard to compare. But

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Speaker 1: the question that I think the next thing I want

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Speaker 1: to see, which I think we've seen in practice, is

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Speaker 1: he consistently accurate. Because what makes all those guys great,

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Speaker 1: the Rogers, the Bradies, the Mannings, the Breeze, is they're

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Speaker 1: deadly accurate. They can put the ball where it needs

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Speaker 1: to be has sort of done it, and we saw

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Speaker 1: it on the throw to Marvin Jones Jr. When he

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Speaker 1: doesn't look open really, but he throws it high in

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Speaker 1: a place where he almost throws him open um. And

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Speaker 1: that's a gift necessarily, even with the time he had.

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Speaker 1: That is a difficult You have to see it and

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Speaker 1: you have to react. Anyone wants to practice, that's right.

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Speaker 1: At least are you gonna say because I I want

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Speaker 1: to bring up a topic that happen in practice today?

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna stay one more if you want me to?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, i'd like you to. Your name's on the walls.

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00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,799
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Speaker 1: a look at the tape, you know. The one thing

642
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: we made some mistakes, but we were physical, okay, and

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00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,280
Speaker 1: we had you look at the tackles. Seven eight guys

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Speaker 1: on the ball every time the run went to the sideline,

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Speaker 1: the one miles there, shoot the next one to the sideline.

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Speaker 1: We had seventy eight black and tailed jersey there and

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Speaker 1: that was great. Some of the things I'd like to

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Speaker 1: improve on. You know, obviously right before the half, winning

649
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Speaker 1: that two minute drill, we go in, we win that drill,

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Speaker 1: we get the ball coming back. Now we get out

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Speaker 1: and score. We're winning the game right there. So those

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Speaker 1: are some things. Tackling was pretty good. We had a

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Speaker 1: couple of miss tackles. On one one play there they

654
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Speaker 1: had a swing route the corner missed it. Not leverage,

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Speaker 1: but for the most part the physicality really liked in

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Speaker 1: the effort. Joe Cullen, Jaguars defensive coordinator. Hear that voice,

657
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Speaker 1: you know instantly who it is, Welcome back, Jaguars, Happy

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Speaker 1: our JP, Adrick, Tony Boselli, Pete Brisco is not here.

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Speaker 1: He is in Minnesota covering cares where he is. No

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Speaker 1: one cares where John Osiers here though it's a rating spike,

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Speaker 1: you know, he touched on it there. Joe Cullen, the

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Speaker 1: physicality of the Jaguars defense on Saturday night, presented that, Um,

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Speaker 1: what about today's practice, John? They were out there in

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Speaker 1: full pads today. It felt like there was a little

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Speaker 1: urgency after we heard Urban talk this morning about some

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Speaker 1: of those things we've discussed already, the tempo and things

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Speaker 1: like that. What was it. I don't think they were.

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Speaker 1: They weren't, you know, doing Oklahoma drills or anything like that.

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Speaker 1: But those are almost against the law, they are, I think.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think of practice today and all that?

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Speaker 1: It was more physical than your you know, normal two

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Speaker 1: days after a game. At the same time, they're still

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Speaker 1: in camp mode until I guess at the end of

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Speaker 1: this week, so it's not entirely usual them to be hitting.

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Speaker 1: I don't overlay it, but it was. At first. I

676
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: wasn't sure because they had the installation period maybe seven

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Speaker 1: periods in and I was sort of used to some

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Speaker 1: more live stuff in period six or seven, whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: But as time went on, it felt like a training

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Speaker 1: camp practice. I was it a punishment practice. I didn't

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Speaker 1: get that field but they hit I mean, which in

682
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: it's the game of day and age, that's the game

683
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Speaker 1: of football. You're supposed to hit well. But in this

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Speaker 1: day and age, you don't always get that much done.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like it was back in the

686
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Speaker 1: seventies when you play leather helmets. Um. Well, first, I

687
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: think Joe was right. I thought the defense was physical, um,

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Speaker 1: especially against the run, and I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: better against the run. As far as days practiced, I

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00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: wasn't out there another engagement, um, But I did hear

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Speaker 1: um through Twitter and talking to people that the offensive

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Speaker 1: line did gassers afterwards. Was there some like punishment that

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Speaker 1: they do something wrong? Um? That I don't know was

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Speaker 1: that did? They were running? They ran afterward, but they

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Speaker 1: were the only group right. Yes, And in my in

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Speaker 1: my experience as offensive linement, anytime we had to run

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Speaker 1: after practice, it was due to poor play penalties, be

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Speaker 1: a fight that I started. Didn't Doug run the whole

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Speaker 1: team in the past like at the end of the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that was that was the first training camp that

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Speaker 1: kind of like and then we won and they kind

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Speaker 1: of went away. Yeah, I mean there was, but I mean,

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Speaker 1: certainly running any other, if any practice, I've never seen.

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Speaker 1: I've never seen one group one group run. I mean

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Speaker 1: I've been in my history of playing football, I've been

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Speaker 1: a part of the one group that's running. And the reason,

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Speaker 1: yeah there was usually we did something poorly. Um, I

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Speaker 1: was just curious, no sense of why that happened. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was at very talent of practice. And Urban did

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Speaker 1: not talk after and and Joe Colin talked and he

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Speaker 1: doesn't coach offensive. They were assumptions made. I don't follow

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Speaker 1: at a p. Mark long for the assumptions. Mark, Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: I know there was something with pads or pants or

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Speaker 1: some it was like pants gate. It was not pants skate.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I didn't see any of that happen

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Speaker 1: with my own two eyes, So that's why I don't

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Speaker 1: know either. But I just thought it was interesting. Well,

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Speaker 1: and I only bring it up because there was pants gate.

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Speaker 1: It might be it might be a thing hashtag pants gate.

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Speaker 1: Put that out there, I would see what's that trend

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Speaker 1: on trend? Because I only bring it up because after

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Speaker 1: the game. And again, if you follow Twitter, sports talk radio,

723
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Speaker 1: all everything reporting after the game, if you'd asked, tell

724
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Speaker 1: me that the unit that most underperformed. Everybody was all

725
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: over the old line, killing the offensive line. Now, what

726
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: was you're the ex lineman? I thought in several cases

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00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: Trevor clearly held the ball too much, which led to

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00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Lisa one of the first half sacks. And then going

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Speaker 1: back and watching yesterday, I thought there were a lot

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Speaker 1: more plays where that they played. Okay, been disastrous, but

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Speaker 1: your judge in your disastrous overall, what do you think

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Speaker 1: well as an offensive line? And unfortunately, all anyone remembers

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Speaker 1: is the bad place. That's all remembers. And let you know,

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Speaker 1: so just get used to it. It's part of life. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know A j kN gave him an early sack.

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Speaker 1: After that, I thought he played good. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was the first play the game. It's preseason. Stuff happens.

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Speaker 1: But I thought he was really physical and he had

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Speaker 1: a great year last year. I thought Linda was fine,

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Speaker 1: typical Linder. I think Bart has always to go still.

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Speaker 1: I still think his feet are an issue. He gets

742
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: the guys get on the edge a little bit. Is

743
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Speaker 1: he better better? Yes, and improving to the point where

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00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: he can be the swing guy. Well he won't be.

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Speaker 1: He's not. He's not as good shall at this point

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Speaker 1: I would put Shatley in first. But he's training in

747
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,479
Speaker 1: the right direction. I mean, you can see he's working.

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00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: It's a project. I mean it was about um. I

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Speaker 1: thought the right tackle was just okay at best, Like

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00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: jo Wan Taylor, guys get on the edge too much.

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00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 1: It's just too close and in the in the pockets,

752
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: get squeezed and even make the quarterback uncomfortable. Um I

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00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: thought Cam was fine, but he was. I mean, don't

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00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: forget these were the backups too. It's not like Miles

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00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: Garrett was out there or like there was a bunch

756
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Speaker 1: of backups. Now you were blocking some guys that might

757
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,479
Speaker 1: even be on the team, and so um I thought

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00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: Cam was fine. Nothing. But you know, now the story

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Speaker 1: of camp has been Walker Little uh Urban mentioned a

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Speaker 1: JP was out there that he thought he struggled a

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Speaker 1: little bit with his hands. I thought terrible and terrible.

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Speaker 1: I thought they were awful. I think walking by the

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Speaker 1: way I think I said here, I think Walker Little

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Speaker 1: will be a good player. I think he has the

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Speaker 1: potential to be a great player. I think it will

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Speaker 1: be a good player. I think we have to be

767
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: careful of anointing guys after a couple of practices, and

768
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the media around this place, you know,

769
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Speaker 1: in this city. I mean he started tweeting out that

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00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: he's like the you know, some brick wall that's just

771
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Speaker 1: dominating people. And the practice I've seen he's been good,

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Speaker 1: and Urban has been effusive in his praise. And he's

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Speaker 1: a young player who's getting better. And he hasn't playing

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Speaker 1: a lot of football. He's been out because of you know,

775
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: COVID and injuries, um, and everything I love about him,

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Speaker 1: he has naturally he's big, he's powerful. He's a naturally

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Speaker 1: big person. He's not like trying to be big. He's

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Speaker 1: just big. He's athletic, good feet, Um, he's powerful. I

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Speaker 1: thought he ran back very well last I mean two

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Speaker 1: nights ago. I thought he's just physical pass walking, his

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00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: feet were good. I think he needs to work on

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00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: the sets. He sets himself up. He makes it harder

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Speaker 1: on himself than he needs to. When you have a

784
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Speaker 1: three step drop and you're dropping deep, go get the guy,

785
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: go be physical. Um. And I just think his hands

786
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Speaker 1: were awful. I mean, he just he's not he doesn't

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Speaker 1: like at times it looks like he doesn't know what

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Speaker 1: to do with his hands and they're just low and

789
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: they're late, and he just and here's the great thing something.

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Speaker 1: But the great thing about it is and so I'm

791
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Speaker 1: not trying to because I'm a believer. I think he

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00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: has the pencil. I think he has opportunity be good.

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00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: I think if I'm a betting man, I would bet

794
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: money Walker Little is a starting left tackle for ten

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Speaker 1: years and a good player. If I get the right odds,

796
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: I'll bet money that he's a great player because he

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00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: has that ability. And one of the things, even as

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00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 1: bad as his hands were, like, guys would just run

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Speaker 1: into him and they wouldn't get there because he's just

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00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: big and he's powerful and like so, which is good.

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Speaker 1: It didn't have to be perfect for him to block

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Speaker 1: the guy. Now again, he might be blocking the guy

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Speaker 1: who's an accountant in two weeks now. Hands are everything.

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00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: I've talked to a lot of defensive linemen over the years.

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Speaker 1: You tell me on their side, hands take time to

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00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: develop the fundamentals you need. Same true in the offense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is this a long term thing. It takes

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00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: a long time to learn. I mean, you'll get bad.

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00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be perfect this year, but you know

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00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: that stuff I'm talking about just like, get him out

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Speaker 1: of the defensive lines. Hands in the way, just I

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Speaker 1: mean in front of you, and I actually so for

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Speaker 1: offensive line play, the most important thing is feet. You.

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Speaker 1: I say all the time, you block people with your

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Speaker 1: feet if you're trying to block people with your hands,

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Speaker 1: or because you start reaching and leaning and everything else,

817
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: It's all about body position and feet. So block people

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Speaker 1: with your feet. He has those feet. I think he

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00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: can clean some of it up, thinking help himself out

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00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: with some of the sets, all stuff that if you

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Speaker 1: don't have that, you're never be great. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's just those are things you figure out. The hands

823
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: is where you you have to have heavy, strong hands

824
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: is where you create your separation and create space and

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00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: give yourself a chance to win. Um. And that's just

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Speaker 1: you know, he's not He's got work to do. But

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Speaker 1: that's okay. He's a rookie. He's a rookie like me

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Speaker 1: saying he had awful hands. It's not like I have

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Speaker 1: the highest respect lines, headlines, species, walk a little, I

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Speaker 1: have high streets back for him. I could argue he's

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Speaker 1: your second best taco. Right now. There you go. We'll

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Speaker 1: end with that. John thanks for jumping on today with

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Speaker 1: us down the wall. I've heard of it. We'll look

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Speaker 1: forward to your writing coming up this week on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: as part of that too, right, I mean he just

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Speaker 1: So it's not like if you're maybe an offensive coordinator's

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Speaker 1: Weekdays on ten ten x L. We were starting to

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Speaker 1: kind of settle in there a little bit. I thought.

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01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: The guys that came in later in the game did great. Um,

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01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland did a good job. Big Zone team, the match

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01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: us pretty well. But now, I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 1: the first time out there, I felt comfortable, felt poised. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the first play is not kind of what you want

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Speaker 1: for the first play, But after that, I thought, I

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01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: thought we did a good job. We communicated well up front,

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01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: they did a really good job with protection. Uh at

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01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: least one of those sackses on me for sure, just

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Speaker 1: holding the ball too long, So that's something I'll work on,

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Speaker 1: and just maneuvering in the pocket. It's something I've always,

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01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, always gotta work on. So other than that,

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01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: I missed missing easy one um to Marvin, a little

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01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 1: quick out that I wish I would have hit. But

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Speaker 1: other than that, I felt I felt good out there.

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01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: I thought we were seeing it all on the same page.

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01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: And there's obviously things to clean up, but I thought

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Speaker 1: it was a pretty good day. Reverd Lawrence after Saturday

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Speaker 1: Night's preseason opener, his debut in the preseason of his

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Speaker 1: rookie campaign. Welcome in. It's the second hour of Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Prisco is

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: out this week. Can be back with us in a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yes, Tony, you're raising me. Tell you what,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, smartman, smart man, you want to win over

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01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: your offensive alignment. Take the put the sack on. It

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01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: was on me. I held, I held it you long.

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Speaker 1: They did a great job. Kudos you perfect, Mr Lawrence.

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01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: That that is gonna get you brownie points in the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. That and get a good gift for Christmas.

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Speaker 1: You'll be set all that. Plenty of dinner everyone, while

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Speaker 1: plenty ahead on Jaguars Happy Hour, including your social questions

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01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: coming up. Let's go to our good friend Greg Cosell.

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01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: He is with the NFL Film Senior producer NFL Matchup

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Speaker 1: on ESPN. The executive producer and analysts there, and Greg,

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01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on with us today on Jaguars Happy Hour.

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01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: Good to see you and talk to you. And you

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01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: know we're gonna go through some quarterbacks around the league.

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01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: But Jacksonville folks finally got a chance to see the

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01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: long blond locks of Trevor Lawrence wearing teal, which is

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01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: always fun. Well, you know what, guys, it's great to

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Speaker 1: be with you. And I'm gonna start off by asking

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Speaker 1: Tony a question. So, Tony coaches coach. Do they coach

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01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 1: for guys to be just okay, our average or to

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01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: do it the right way all the time? Well, yeah,

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01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Greg, you know as well as I do.

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01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: The good coaches demand the best, and I agree with

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01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: you we were talking off their The coach's job is

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01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: to get the most out of the player is and

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01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: you do that two ways. You put them in the

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01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,919
Speaker 1: best possible position to have success. In number two, you

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01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: ask them to do perform at the level you believe

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01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: they can achieve, not where they are, not where they're comfortable.

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01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 1: You take them to a level where it's uncomfortable and

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01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: you ask them to reach there. And any player worth

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01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 1: their salt, we'll tell you that's what they want. It's

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01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: it's not always pleasant. It's not fun, especially depending on

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01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,919
Speaker 1: the personality of the coaches. You know, aren't as nice

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01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: as others. But that's what you want. That's what coaching

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01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: is about. Well, it's funny you say that, because I

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01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: was really fortunate in my career to learn the quarterback

1112
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: position from Bill Walsh, and the way he taught it

1113
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: was that you do it the right way every single time.

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01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: So when I watch a quarterback, that's the way I

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01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: think about it. I don't and obviously it's the first performance,

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: but that's that should not be totally relevant because it's

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01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: being coached, it's being taught, and you want to go

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01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: out there and you want to see not only the

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01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: quarterback everybody. But obviously we're gonna talk quarterbacks and Trevor Lawrence. Um,

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Speaker 1: you want to see it done right all the time.

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01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: So if you'd like to do that, I certainly could. Yeah,

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01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: and so great, let's talk about that. I mean, as

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Speaker 1: you look at Trevor Lawrence, I mean, obviously, I know

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Speaker 1: you watch a lot of film, you know, of these

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Speaker 1: guys in college leading up to the NFL draft, and

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Speaker 1: you watch a ton of pro games and break that

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01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: down with your responsibilities. Give us a breakdown of what

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01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: you saw and and doing a lot of what you

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01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: were expecting. We know it's the first preseason game, but

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01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: as you said, do you know you gotta do it

1131
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 1: right all the time if you want to be great. Yeah.

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01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: I thought where he was really good was there were

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01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: some spot throws to the outside. He hit Um Jones

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Speaker 1: I think for ten yards on third and nine. I

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01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 1: think that was the first series it was. It was

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01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: a ten yard out that was a spot throw. That's

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01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: more of an execution throw than a read throw. Um.

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01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: He also hit a spot throw another time in the game,

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01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: I think probably saying what played two series? Was it? Yes,

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01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: I think you're probably thinking on these, uh, the the

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01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 1: one the man hurts on the on the sit route

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01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: just um. Yeah, there were there were two spot throws

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01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 1: that they he showed a strong sense of timing because

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01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 1: those are throws. I remember work, you know, with Ron

1145
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: Jaworski for years and years, one of my best friends,

1146
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: and he would tell me that there were certain throws

1147
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: that based on the timing of the drop and and

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01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: the throw, that he could throw blindfolded because their spot throws,

1149
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: their timing throws, and I thought Lawrence for a rookie quarterback,

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01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: really did a good job with those. That was That

1151
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 1: was a real positive Um he talked about and I

1152
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: know what you said, Tony about the old line. The

1153
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: first sack was on Lawrence the first play of the game.

1154
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,439
Speaker 1: He was slow to eliminate and isolate Um. The read

1155
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 1: was to the left side. He stayed focused on slot

1156
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: receiver Jones far too long. He had channel opened on

1157
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: the in breaker to the read side. The Browns were

1158
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: had a five man rush, they played cover one. The

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01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: throw should have been to Chanult. He just stayed on

1160
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 1: Jones too long. First play, probably to be expected, but

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01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: again something now to teach and to work on. Great

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01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: cous with us from NFL films and ESPN's NFL matchup. Yeah,

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01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback, having that that clock in your

1164
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: head of you know when to get rid of this thing,

1165
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 1: not to hold it too long. How much How long

1166
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: does that take for a quarterback to figure that out? Greg, Well,

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01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: there's reasons, jp Y quarterbacks hold it too long. Sometimes

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01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: it's truly because the coverage winds. For instance, the second

1169
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: sack came on a shot play out of twelve personnel,

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01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: one back, two tight ends. It was conventional play action

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01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 1: with Lawrence under center. It was mirrored crosses by Jones

1172
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: and Johnson. It was seven man pass bro which tells

1173
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: you what your shot play. They're looking to get him

1174
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: on a deep drop. They want to throw the ball

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01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: down the field and a t N released late into

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01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: the flat. The Browns took it away with cover three.

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Speaker 1: There was no throw to be made. Now, could you

1178
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: sit here and say you could throw it into the

1179
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: flat maybe, but there was truly no throw to be made.

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01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: Um another play that I think is something you really

1181
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: want to work on. And by the way, this is

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01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: very common with the young quarterbacks. It was the third

1183
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: it in four play that ended the first possession where

1184
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: he threw it to Chinault on the slot out route

1185
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: uh and it was incomplete obviously because they punted. He

1186
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: drifted into the pressure. He drifted instead of staying on

1187
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: the mid line and giving himself an opportunity to make

1188
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 1: a clean throw. Trevor drifted to his left right behind.

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Speaker 1: I guess it was Cam Robinson, the left tackle, and

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01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 1: he created his own pressure, so he made it a

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01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: more difficult throw than it was now. Antonio will understand

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: this because someone will probably say Cam Johnson didn't do

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01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,840
Speaker 1: a good job, but Trevor drifted into him and it

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01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: made it tougher for for Camera Robinson and to make

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01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: the block. Yeah, Camp, it wasn't Cam's falter. You're exactly right, Greg.

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01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: There was a little bit of a soft pocket by

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01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor on the right side, and so in Trevor

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01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,919
Speaker 1: felt that and started drifting back backwards into the left.

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Speaker 1: If you would have stepped up and took it about

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01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: two shovels to the left, there was a there was

1201
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: space there where he could have sat there for an

1202
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: extra click and then be able to throw the ball

1203
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: with his feet set. And that's what and those are things.

1204
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 1: And he even mentioned it, I gotta be better in

1205
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 1: the pocket. And that's what you see young quarterbacks do

1206
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: all the time. They go backwards instead of forwards. Heck,

1207
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: Patrick Homes still does it, but he has such a

1208
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: special arm he gets away with it. Somehow he backs

1209
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: up the fifty yards and just throws it up. I

1210
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,840
Speaker 1: have no idea how he gets with it. Not a

1211
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: offensive tackles nightmare, um. But the ones who are consistently

1212
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: great or they move forward, they climbed the pocket. You

1213
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: make a great point because don't forget too Lawrence was

1214
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: not under pressure very often in college. Um, he might

1215
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 1: have been under what I consider pressure. Everybody has their

1216
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: different sense of pressure, but I think of pressure in

1217
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: terms of the NFL. And I know Tony you would

1218
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 1: agree with this. You know, Uh, he wasn't really under

1219
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 1: pressure more than thirty five or forty past attempts at

1220
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: Clemson this past year. True pressure. So he has to

1221
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: get used to working out of a noisy, muddied pocket

1222
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 1: where there are people around him, but that's not really

1223
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: pressure by NFL standards. And you make a great point.

1224
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,439
Speaker 1: The the response to that, if you're not used to

1225
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: it is to drift either sideways or backwards, and you

1226
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: cannot drift backwards in the NFL. You mentioned Mahomes. You know,

1227
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: you have to put that aside. He's just a different

1228
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: cat and he can make these throws that a lot

1229
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 1: of people can, but you cannot move backwards versus pressure

1230
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Greg, you know you it's a great

1231
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 1: point and interesting, And you talked about the first play

1232
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: that was the sack fumble and that you know he

1233
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 1: held it a little bit long stayed on. Marvin Jones Jr.

1234
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: Should have got the channault. But you know, the positive

1235
01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 1: for me on that play was he stood there tall

1236
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: in the pocket. Now he followed it, but he stood there.

1237
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: He wasn't getting nervous as it got crowded in there,

1238
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: and he was still looking down the field. He just

1239
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 1: didn't find the right person and didn't get off. But

1240
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 1: at least and you've seen this, and this is always

1241
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: worries me, is in that situation, eyes go down, you

1242
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,960
Speaker 1: start getting happy feet, you're looking for an exit, and

1243
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: he didn't. I actually like the sack fumble. As an

1244
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: offensive lineman wouldn't liked it, but I appreciate in the

1245
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: evaluation here's the guy standing tall and is not getting

1246
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: nervous when everything's collapsing. Yeah, and I think that's a

1247
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: really good point because a lot of young quarterbacks and

1248
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 1: and and let's think of it this way, Well, Trevor

1249
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 1: Lawrence has mobility and as a plus athlete for a

1250
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 1: man that size. When all said and done, guys, he's

1251
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 1: going to make his bones in this league as a

1252
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: pocket player. Yes, does he have the ability to get outside?

1253
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: Can you run some design run game stuff with him?

1254
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 1: You can, but he's ultimately going to be a pocket quarterback.

1255
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: And I think that's a great point instead of just

1256
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: immediately playing the pocket, which is a hard thing to

1257
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: teach a guy to stay in the pocket if he

1258
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have that natural trait to begin with, that's a

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Speaker 1: hard thing to teach. And Tony, you're right, he didn't

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Speaker 1: look to leave the pocket at any point in this game.

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Speaker 1: as well. Uh, just going back to the college shape, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I know you dug deep on this on all these

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Speaker 1: quarterback prospects. How does his accuracy, arms strength, ability to

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Speaker 1: push it down the field compared to some of the

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Speaker 1: maybe the old time guys in those departments. Is he

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Speaker 1: right up there near the top at least as a prospect. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's j P. Let's take a step back from it here.

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Speaker 1: I know that Keever came out with this idea that

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Speaker 1: You know, I think he's a talented kid. He's a

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Speaker 1: big kid. There's no problem with his arm strength. That

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Speaker 1: does he have an absolute gun I wouldn't say as

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Speaker 1: a gun, but there's no problem with his arm strength.

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that stood out and you didn't

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Speaker 1: see it very often, but you asked me, you know,

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Speaker 1: if he has any things that were concerning and it

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Speaker 1: showed up two years ago in playoff games and even

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Speaker 1: this year in a playoff game. Is he's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a strider when he throws his He's a

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Speaker 1: body thrower, and he steps into his throws. So the

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Speaker 1: one thing that you want to see is how he

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Speaker 1: handles himself when there's pressure up the middle in his face, because,

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Speaker 1: like I said, he's a step thrower, and at times

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Speaker 1: in college that there were times that he struggled a bit.

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Speaker 1: He'd hurry his mechanics and he would become a little

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Speaker 1: scattered shot high. So again, I'm not gonna sit here

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Speaker 1: and tell you that's a weakness and he can't play.

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Speaker 1: But that's just something that I think you need to

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Speaker 1: be aware of, and that's based purely on tape study.

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Speaker 1: Gret go Sell with us. How about a few other

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Speaker 1: debuts this week? In preseason Week one, Josh Fields had

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Speaker 1: a day for the Bears. Trey Lance had a long

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Speaker 1: past play, but he was five or fourteen. Zach Wilson

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Speaker 1: got out there for the Jets. Mac Jones was fairly

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Speaker 1: efficient for the Patriots. Which of those guys you think

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Speaker 1: will have the most impact right away? Greg, Well, we

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Speaker 1: know Zack Wilson's gonna start, so I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: a question there. My guess is justin Fields will as well.

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Speaker 1: But Zack Wilson, I think is in an offense that

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Speaker 1: does fit what he brings to the table. It's really

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners offense because Michael Floor, who's Matt's brother

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Speaker 1: which features a lot of designed movement, and you can

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Speaker 1: see that Wilson is comfortable with play action boot He's

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Speaker 1: an easy thrower on the move, He's got light feet. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think that this style of offense fits him well.

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Speaker 1: So obviously there's other factors as to whether a quarterback

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Speaker 1: succeeds or doesn't succeed, But I think that stylistically and

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Speaker 1: and structurally, the offense that he's in with the Jets

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Speaker 1: fits him. If you look at all the guys, Greg,

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Speaker 1: last question for me that JP just talked about at

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Speaker 1: some point this year, will all of them be starters

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Speaker 1: in the NFL? Um? I mean, I'm sure Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: will be sooner than later. Uh. I guess the Cam

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Speaker 1: think there'll be a running football team playing with a

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Speaker 1: lot of two tight ends. Um. I think Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: depends on Garoppolo because Lance, you know, he had that

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Speaker 1: long touchdown, which was a play they love. They've run

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Speaker 1: it in the regular season with great success over the

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Speaker 1: last number of years. Um. But Plants was very unsettled.

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Speaker 1: He needs to be more settled in the pocket. He

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Speaker 1: a little too hard on plays that required touch and pace.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see. I would bet Garoppolo will end up starting,

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Speaker 1: and then it will depend on how they do because

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Speaker 1: the Niners have a good football team. We always learn

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Speaker 1: a lot when Greg co sell is on our programs,

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Speaker 1: and it's great to have you again. It's been a

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Speaker 1: some insight to Trevor Lawrence and some young quarterbacks. It's

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Speaker 1: always good to see Greg. You always get smarter when

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Speaker 1: Greg coel comes on the program. Thank you sir, all right,

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Speaker 1: guys really appreciate that. Thanks so much. Give him a

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Speaker 1: That's coming up. That was that was abrupt. Your social

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Speaker 1: Home of the Checks in Bill. Jaguars camp was pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: Jowan was a little we're working on some things. Bag.

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Speaker 1: He had a great training camp, so we're we're good.

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Speaker 1: He's just gotta uh, do not play great. The answering

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Speaker 1: a question, they're play awful, didn't play great. A j

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Speaker 1: camp played very solid, gave a one of pressure, but

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Speaker 1: he's uh, he's been really solid all the way through.

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Speaker 1: Lendar didn't play much obviously, Norwell has got one more

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Speaker 1: week out. But Parts actually did okay in there. So

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Speaker 1: we're developing that third guard which we need and the

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Speaker 1: third tackle right now. Walker a little struggle, which he

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Speaker 1: would and he's playing low hands for some reason, and

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Speaker 1: it was on and really fast, so he's got to

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Speaker 1: get a lot of reps. We're counting on him. And

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Speaker 1: he had a really good training camp, so we gotta

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Speaker 1: get him going. That's head coach urban Meyer discussing the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. Welcome back to Jaguars, Happy our j P, Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli, Pete Brisco is out here. We'll be He'll

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Speaker 1: be back with us in a couple of weeks. Our

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Speaker 1: thanks to Greg Cosell, like great insight at the quarterback

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Speaker 1: we heard from urban Meyer there. That was this morning

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Speaker 1: our first chance to catch up with the head coach

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Speaker 1: since Saturday and his performance. So the question is Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson left tackle, Jowan Taylor right tackle, walk are a

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Speaker 1: little You heard the head coach urban Mine right there,

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Speaker 1: so they didn't really play struggled. He said, would you

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Speaker 1: start giving little reps with the first team at some

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Speaker 1: point and when would that be and would you at

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Speaker 1: all I'm less worried about giving reps of the first team.

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Speaker 1: I definitely would want him out there. Um, it could

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Speaker 1: be a great opportunity against the Saints. Go get go,

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Speaker 1: get some real defensive end work. And not that he

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Speaker 1: hasn't in practice, I'm saying, but he didn't see real

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Speaker 1: NFL defensive ends. I mean he saw guys who might

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Speaker 1: be backups, were past walk guys, you know for the

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Speaker 1: Browns because they were playing there down the long list.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna be on Monday Night football. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Saints are gonna play their front front line guys.

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Speaker 1: I'd get him reps against those guys. Um, let me

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Speaker 1: go taste it, because he has a ton of ability.

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Speaker 1: And Urban's right, he didn't have to have a great game. Now,

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Speaker 1: the fighting thing is, it's not he got beat and

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Speaker 1: got the quarterback killed. It was just his technique was terrible.

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Speaker 1: His hands were off. He still got guys blocked, but

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Speaker 1: it was it was ugly. And I think what Urban

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Speaker 1: saying is a good player would have given him trouble,

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Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. Um, I agree with when a

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Speaker 1: j can a J can's a good player. Linda didn't

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Speaker 1: play a lot. I agree with that. Um. I think

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Speaker 1: he was Um I'll give him the Bennett. I'll agree

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Speaker 1: with him from the standpoint of what he's seen in

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Speaker 1: Jowan Taylor because he's watching a lot more than I

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Speaker 1: the assessment of how Juwan played in the game. Not great. Um,

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Speaker 1: what do you say about Cam? He thought camp played

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Speaker 1: really well. He thought he played well. Yeah, I thought

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Speaker 1: he played fine. Yeah. I mean it wasn't dominating or anything. Um,

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Speaker 1: he played fine. I would agree that. So yeah, But

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Speaker 1: Walker Little, I want to get him reps. I want

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Speaker 1: to put pressure on Juwan Taylor and Cam Robinson and

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Speaker 1: I want to see and Walker and he he needs reps.

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Speaker 1: It's circle all the way back to what I said

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Speaker 1: at the beginning about who plays how much they play.

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Speaker 1: Trevis Lawrence needs Trevor Trevor Trevor Trevor Lawrence Brother. We've

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Speaker 1: got to head myself with ETI Uh, Trevor Lawrence needs reps,

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Speaker 1: Eten needs reps, Tyson Campbell needs reps, Walker Little needs reps.

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Speaker 1: The rookies, if you're gonna count on them and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna expect production out of them this year to help

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Speaker 1: you win games, they need reps. You can't give him enough.

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Speaker 1: And I love the fact that Urban kept Walker little

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Speaker 1: at left tackle for three quarters. He was out there

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Speaker 1: a long times. Good for him a long time. Now

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Speaker 1: give I want to see him get some reps, you know,

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Speaker 1: with that first unit against the top the uh you know,

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Speaker 1: the top rushers from the Saints. Walker was one of

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Speaker 1: the top. He was actually the guy who played the

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Speaker 1: most place, plays the place, you know, in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: To play sixty seventy I understand that I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: in that and that's how much he played. I agree,

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Speaker 1: But my point is he needs reps. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: haven't played in two years, and he's gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: It'll be good. So I think Urban was I think

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Speaker 1: Airban's assessment, um was was a fair one. I think

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Speaker 1: he was pretty honest there, which he typically is with

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Speaker 1: the players. I think, so, yeah, yeah, all right, there

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Speaker 1: I don't know why this man dab segment, Woodbridge segment.

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Speaker 1: We're going to pour a glass of red for you

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Speaker 1: in front of the fireplace about our as we answer

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Speaker 1: football team. Well, that would be quite an evening. I

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Speaker 1: look forward to that at some point, Tony. Is that allowed, Joe? No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is. Is there? Like, is it

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Speaker 1: in all seriousness? Because you know obviously everyone I'm joking? Um?

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Speaker 1: Is there? Maybe it depends on the answer to this

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Speaker 1: next question, whether I'm joking or not. Is there like

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Speaker 1: some FTC rule that you're not allowed to have TC?

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Speaker 1: What does f TC stand for? Tony? What's the what's

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Speaker 1: the CC? Federal Communications Commission? I thought there's a T

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Speaker 1: in there, so exactly f c C? Is there some Joe?

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Speaker 1: Is there f c C regulation you're not allowed to

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Speaker 1: have consume alcohol on the air? I from what I understand,

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Speaker 1: you cannot, Yeah, put alcohol to your lips? That's a

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Speaker 1: really that's a rule. Yeah? How in school, like I

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Speaker 1: didn't go to I know, you ever see a beer commercial?

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Speaker 1: They don't really drink beer. Get close now on podcast

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Speaker 1: they do, though it's not over the air, well they do.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean it's not over the air, like

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Speaker 1: literally over the air when I downloaded it comes through

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Speaker 1: the air. To my it's not a broadca Hast transmission.

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Speaker 1: That's what they do. So I'm cure I didn't know,

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Speaker 1: you know, because in Major League, Yeah, it's a movie. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's his name, Harry Doyle? And no, the uh the

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Speaker 1: Major League Joe the announcer, who's the announcer? Who is

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Speaker 1: the announcer? Doyle was his name in the movie, And

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Speaker 1: about bob Yucker broke open a bottle of bourbon on

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Speaker 1: the air. It's a movie. I'm just saying. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying as well, so you're saying, O I do, so,

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Speaker 1: let's cancel my idea about having this is well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I like the idea, but I'm not I'm not a

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Speaker 1: rule breaker. We follow straight straight in there, whether whether

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Speaker 1: it's the FCC or the f TC. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to break either law and order every time. That's us

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Speaker 1: Sports Talk for Jacksonville sports fans ten ten XL Home

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Speaker 1: of the Jacksonville Jaguars. You know, so much of the

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Speaker 1: first game was I mean the conversation we had about

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Speaker 1: only get him a series, only get ten plays and um,

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Speaker 1: And I think it was a great learning lesson that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's called a plan to win. When you

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Speaker 1: start the game and they go right down to field,

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Speaker 1: pick a field goal and we knock it out to

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Speaker 1: the eight team. I think it's a ten yard line.

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Speaker 1: And the worst penalty in football is when you see

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Speaker 1: that none of your offense is backed up. And so

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Speaker 1: just talking about how the every drive council, that's when

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Speaker 1: you're only talking about sixty plays three hours of football.

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Speaker 1: That's the big change for a lot of players and coaches.

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Speaker 1: You only getting a couple of drives a half, you know,

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Speaker 1: or in ecology, you know your eight ninety plays a

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Speaker 1: lot of times. So every play's gotta count, every drive's

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Speaker 1: gotta count. Urban Meyer earlier today and welcome back Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour, J P. Shadrick, Tony Baselli no beat Brisco

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Speaker 1: tonight and it's time for social media questions. Tony, it's

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Speaker 1: your favorite time of each and every show where we

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Speaker 1: dig into the mail bag. We put out the bat

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Speaker 1: signal earlier today on social media and here are the

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Speaker 1: best that we've come up. My favorite segment. We've got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of them tonight, Number one tonight from at

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Speaker 1: General of Duval. Should C. J. Henderson start Week one?

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01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: No idea, It's way too early. Um. I think he's

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01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 1: been out with a total of three practices full at

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01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 1: patent Um, so let's give it some time, pretty straight.

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Speaker 1: But going into the game Saturday, out there again today,

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Speaker 1: which is great. He was rees today. It's a better

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01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: team if C. J. Henderson's you're starting corner because he's

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01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 1: a good football player, but you have to be available. Um,

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01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: he's had some off the field issue. When I say issues,

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01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: it's you know, we're not sure what they are, but

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01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: he's had some sort of health issues, whether it's the

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Speaker 1: betterment of like physical health, mental health. I have no idea,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, it's none of my business. It's

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Speaker 1: none of any of our business until it does. You know,

1634
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: if you can't play, then they'll let us know why.

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Speaker 1: But all I know is we're a better team with

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01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:35,720
Speaker 1: him out there. And he played well in the first

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Speaker 1: preseason game. He showed his ability, had the one miss tackle.

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Speaker 1: But you haven't had that many reps out there. I'm

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01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: not overly concerned with that. Had a couple of past breakups. Um,

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Speaker 1: I like our secondary. If he started in one corner,

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Speaker 1: you got Shakie Griffin at the other, and you have

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Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell's your nickel. Pretty good, pretty good right there,

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Speaker 1: pretty athletic, pretty fast. Let's see how the rest of

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Speaker 1: camp and the preseason goes with him. Next question at

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Speaker 1: s Boss seven, can Tony see pushing Taylor inside the

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Speaker 1: right guard since Adalis had him doing better there because

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Speaker 1: of his power instead of footwork, pushing Cam to right tackle,

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Speaker 1: and putting Walker at left tackle since he was literally

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Speaker 1: like a wall Saturday night. I think at most I

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Speaker 1: saw him getting pushed three to four steps back. That's

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Speaker 1: a long series of thoughts. Yeah, so one Walker Little

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Speaker 1: is a big man in physical but we talked about

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Speaker 1: he has a lot of work to do. I do

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Speaker 1: think he ultimately can be a start will be a

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Speaker 1: starting tackle here we left or right, Um, because he

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Speaker 1: has that kind of talent. He's athletic, he's powerful, he's

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Speaker 1: a naturally big man. Um. I'm not sure why you

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Speaker 1: would move um Juwan Taylor into right guard when maybe

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Speaker 1: the guy who played the best football in any of

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Speaker 1: your offensive line and last year was a J. Cannon

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Speaker 1: and a J Cann Everyone's gonna pay attention to first

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Speaker 1: play where if the ball is out on time, it's

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Speaker 1: late pressure, ball was held, end up getting a sack.

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Speaker 1: Um offensive line is always gonna get blamed for it,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not completely their fault. Go watch the

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Speaker 1: rest of the game. Every play from that he was

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Speaker 1: pretty much physically domin He was very good last year.

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Speaker 1: A J Can's went your best offensive lignment. So no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not moving Jwan Taylor inside to take a J

1670
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:12,680
Speaker 1: Can's job. They want to start to write and now

1671
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:14,400
Speaker 1: if you wanted to move Cam to right tackle and

1672
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 1: go compete with Juwan Taylor, because you wanted to walk

1673
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 1: a little possibly later this year. Walker little's got to

1674
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 1: get better right now, He's not. He's not better than

1675
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Cam a left tackle at this point today, right this

1676
01:33:26,479 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: seconds not based one we saw on the tape. Could

1677
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 1: he could? He could be better at right than Juwan

1678
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:37,759
Speaker 1: right now? I don't know, tell me when I see it, Okay,

1679
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 1: I mean all you can go buy is the tape,

1680
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 1: not what we want, not what you hope not you're

1681
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 1: based on your bias or your feelings or whether I

1682
01:33:46,360 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 1: did last year did or you didn't like either, Like

1683
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: so if I watched the tape, can perform better than

1684
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 1: walk a little? Okay? Camp should play? Next question from

1685
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:02,600
Speaker 1: at the Underschool Jacks fans six one five on d

1686
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 1: how did the run fits look on tape? We all

1687
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:08,080
Speaker 1: believe it will be crucial to stop the run, not

1688
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: only this year, but every year. Hashtag go Jags. You

1689
01:34:11,400 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 1: know what, You're right, It is crucial to stop the run,

1690
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 1: not only this year, whatever year. If I were to

1691
01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: get Jacks fan six one five on the phone or

1692
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,880
Speaker 1: the Underscore Jacks fan six one five on the phone

1693
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,479
Speaker 1: and asked him to give me the definition of a

1694
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: run fick, what does he What does that mean? I

1695
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: know what it means, but I'm saying, dude, do you

1696
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 1: think he knows that a run like J What if

1697
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: that's actually you know, like the linebacker coach China. If

1698
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:39,680
Speaker 1: I would ask you JP, give me a description of

1699
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 1: run fits the way I understand it, it's fitting the

1700
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 1: gaps up front. So everybody has a gap top. So

1701
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:48,800
Speaker 1: if you're a one if you're one gap defense, it's

1702
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 1: so if I'm the one technique and my responsibility is

1703
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:54,519
Speaker 1: the front side a gap, I'm run fitting into that gap.

1704
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 1: If it's a two gap defense, it's different because now

1705
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm reading the man and I'm playing two very simple

1706
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 1: So okay, um, overall run fits, Um I did. I'll

1707
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: be honestly, I didn't study the defense that first Sea

1708
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: where I watched like every single play and watched the

1709
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 1: I watched individual play more than anything for this first

1710
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 1: preseason game. Typically, the way I watched the preseason is

1711
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:19,920
Speaker 1: watched individuals. Less about scheme UM, more individual. I thought

1712
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Von Hamilton's very good. I thought, um dwant Smoot played

1713
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,759
Speaker 1: the solid game, Malcolm Brown flashed, had some good players,

1714
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:32,719
Speaker 1: got in the backfield UM twelve times for fifteen yards

1715
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:37,759
Speaker 1: on the first half. Robertson, Robertson, Roy Robertson, Harris, Robertson,

1716
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 1: Harris Um, Robertson, Harris, Roy Robertson, Harris. I know, I'm

1717
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 1: just calling by his last name, just like I called

1718
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: Brown by his last name, and like I called Hamilton

1719
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 1: by his last names. Have two last names, Robertson, We

1720
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: has double last names. Right, go ahead, so didn't count.

1721
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: Just as if it's that's a great question, it's all

1722
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:05,760
Speaker 1: one word. If it's hyphens, it's one name. Robinson, Harris, Robertson.

1723
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 1: That's why I said Robinson er Okay, go ahead, Robertson,

1724
01:36:11,439 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 1: we know who you're talking about. Okay, since you say it, then,

1725
01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: Roy Robertson, Harris, Robertson, Harris, thank you. That's what I

1726
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,519
Speaker 1: said the first time. Good job. You know you're really

1727
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 1: being mean spirited. I wish we had Pete back here. Robertson, Harris.

1728
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 1: Um was good and solid and physical and big. Um.

1729
01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:30,920
Speaker 1: None of the guys I mentioned are great pass rushers.

1730
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: Might means wants by the best of them, I thought,

1731
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 1: Chas and some good run you know they've got pass rushing.

1732
01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Josh Allen had some good pass rushes, but overall the

1733
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: run defense was very good, which is what you want.

1734
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,559
Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good start. But now then again,

1735
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 1: Brown's junior varsity was out there. Yes, no starters none,

1736
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 1: two best backs not there, top receivers not there, top

1737
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 1: tight end not there, starting line not their quarterback not there.

1738
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,920
Speaker 1: You were playing the j B second team. That should

1739
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: have been the keeping it real segment right there. But

1740
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: we'll see. Hey, you know, it's a good start though, goodtitive.

1741
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:12,519
Speaker 1: They ran them out there. So next question from Jay

1742
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:16,759
Speaker 1: Hopkins b g S question for you, JP, it seemed

1743
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:19,640
Speaker 1: to me when you interviewed Urban after the game that

1744
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: he was more upset about losing free season than other

1745
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,080
Speaker 1: head coaches have been mid season. Did it come across

1746
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:31,000
Speaker 1: that way to you, great show, No, I think he

1747
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 1: was a negative ghost writer. The pattern is full, thank you.

1748
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 1: I think that he was frustrated with some of those situations.

1749
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 1: We heard him talk about the holding on the kickoff

1750
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 1: return and the field position was not great and they

1751
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: didn't execute a couple of times in the fourth and

1752
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 1: one play it didn't work out, And I think he

1753
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 1: said going into the game, you know the results you

1754
01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 1: want to win the game, but there are more important

1755
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 1: things to a preseason game in the actual final score.

1756
01:37:58,520 --> 01:38:01,400
Speaker 1: Some other coaches would think differently on that that we've

1757
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:05,640
Speaker 1: seen around here. Um, every coach mid season is going

1758
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: to have a much different idea of that than they

1759
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 1: do in the preseason. So I'm not sure what that was.

1760
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:15,600
Speaker 1: If you have a game like that opening day and that,

1761
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 1: then I think he'll share his postgame interview pleasure would

1762
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:24,760
Speaker 1: be interesting. I'll say that good luck, let's hope it

1763
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:29,960
Speaker 1: doesn't win all Yeah, I agree with that. Let's move along.

1764
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 1: Next question at Jags eight. Five thoughts on pass rush

1765
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 1: and it was the first preseason game, but should we

1766
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 1: be concerned with the lack of pass rush? Guys weren't

1767
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,120
Speaker 1: getting enough pressure to affect quarterbacks and didn't seem to

1768
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,519
Speaker 1: be getting home on blitz is Tony Oh my goodness,

1769
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: remember one the one thing that he said that was right,

1770
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 1: Please don't panic, um, if you want to look at

1771
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: pass rush, Josh Allen had very few raps. A couple

1772
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 1: of you did. He had a good inside pass work

1773
01:38:57,280 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 1: and got pressure. Um, so I can't even get warmed up.

1774
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: And uh ca, Levan Chason had two really good pass

1775
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: rushes that stood out where he won Alan played twelve

1776
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:11,800
Speaker 1: snap here's the thing, and how many of those were

1777
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: actually pass rushing situations? You know, not many. The ball

1778
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 1: was out quick case Keenom's a veteran. It was a

1779
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 1: lot of short passing. You know, he hit the third step,

1780
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 1: hit the fifth step. It's out. It's hard to hit

1781
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 1: the quarterback when that's happening. And so um I would not.

1782
01:39:28,040 --> 01:39:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm I'm concerned about it overall for the season, Like

1783
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: where is the pass rush gonna come? We talked about

1784
01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 1: that last week with Pete on this show. So I

1785
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:40,000
Speaker 1: think I think it's a fair question to ask. What

1786
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 1: happened in the preseason game has zero impact on my

1787
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 1: being happy or sad or scared or optimistic about it.

1788
01:39:47,439 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't change your feelings from anything, not one bit. Okay,

1789
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 1: next question from at deston Ray fort nine. Let's cut

1790
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 1: the team, sir. That's not a question. Yeah, that's a statement,

1791
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:00,600
Speaker 1: and Pete's not here to do it for you, so

1792
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 1: I will not do that. The first cut is tomorrow,

1793
01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:06,600
Speaker 1: deadline down, dude, that they're gonna go from. See, I

1794
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: knew this. I had this argument, and you know what

1795
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 1: if Frank and Jeff are listening right now. Joe, you

1796
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: were in the booth and I said, there's multiple cuts,

1797
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: one every week, every two. What did they say, Joe,

1798
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 1: put your ma Tell what they said? Tell me. I

1799
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:23,600
Speaker 1: want you to say it. Say it. He doesn't remember. No,

1800
01:40:23,760 --> 01:40:28,280
Speaker 1: it's all one cuts. Correct. No, there's one every Tuesday, Frangie,

1801
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:31,400
Speaker 1: don't ever question me again. I'm always right. It goes

1802
01:40:31,479 --> 01:40:35,679
Speaker 1: to five tomorrow, next Tuesday it goes from eighty five

1803
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: to eighty and then the next Tuesday it's down tote

1804
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:42,000
Speaker 1: with basically two weeks to the regular season. I knew it.

1805
01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 1: And there's gonna be people available for the practic squad. Yes,

1806
01:40:47,320 --> 01:40:50,479
Speaker 1: those rules are the same as Yes, all that's the

1807
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: same from last year, but the cut is different this year.

1808
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 1: Any surprises on this first cut, I think on the

1809
01:40:56,479 --> 01:40:59,360
Speaker 1: first cut there won't be many surprises, right, I mean

1810
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,920
Speaker 1: it was it. The only team I heard is like

1811
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 1: in like so like ridiculous. Tim Tebow just got I

1812
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:12,560
Speaker 1: was getting killed on Twitter last night, just killed, not

1813
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 1: just in Jacksonville like national um. But the interesting thing

1814
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:21,759
Speaker 1: about Tim Tebow to me was not the miss blocks

1815
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: or any of that stuff that happens in football by

1816
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 1: the way, and he's a brand new tight end. He's uh.

1817
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 1: Those other guys are paid across the line, and it

1818
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: just so I could critique that. I can walk through it.

1819
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 1: We've talked about it, Jeff and I have talked about it.

1820
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 1: There's a physicality that needs to work on, so unforth, like,

1821
01:41:41,720 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't like it got too much the memes. It

1822
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: was too much to man, Come on, give me the

1823
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 1: guy a break, because I I could literally go through

1824
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:57,280
Speaker 1: Hall of Famers tape and show embarrassing box. That's just

1825
01:41:57,360 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 1: not I don't I don't like stuff like that anyway. Anyways,

1826
01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:03,960
Speaker 1: the bigger thing I'd be concerned about. He was the

1827
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 1: only tight end that didn't play in any special teams none,

1828
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 1: zero snaps. And typically if you're gonna be a down

1829
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 1: the line tight end or that move tight end slash fullback,

1830
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 1: you were playing on special teams because you're not going

1831
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 1: to be kept if you otherwise. And so I'm not

1832
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be a first cut, but that was

1833
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 1: surprising to me JP that he was not, because you

1834
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 1: would think if his point, if your plan was that

1835
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow on this roster as your fourth or fifth

1836
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:36,919
Speaker 1: tight end or fourth, fifth, tight end s, last fullback

1837
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: which we've seen him running practice. UM that he would

1838
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 1: be on special teams and so that was that was

1839
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 1: like the light went off. I'm like, oh, this isn't

1840
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 1: because he got other guys you know, going ten reps

1841
01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 1: on special teams. That's the high water markets. Luke Farrell

1842
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 1: had eight snaps on special teams. Yeah, the tight end list.

1843
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,839
Speaker 1: Man Hurts I saw out there for kickoff returns. Farrell

1844
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 1: had eight. Uh Davis had five snaps on special teams.

1845
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 1: Shaunessy had two snaps on special and had six. Man

1846
01:43:14,479 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: Hurts had one. Managed to the starter and you hadbody

1847
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,960
Speaker 1: else had at least one, and he was on kickoff returns.

1848
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 1: I remember seeing him and he's a starter. I was

1849
01:43:24,439 --> 01:43:27,679
Speaker 1: shocked that Teabo got no reps. I would be concerned

1850
01:43:27,720 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 1: if I was UM a player who was trying to

1851
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: make this roster on the down at the bottom of

1852
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 1: the roster, which Tim Tebo was clearly trying to do.

1853
01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:37,000
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be the Starter's not gonna be the second.

1854
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,240
Speaker 1: He's not a dynamic pass catcher. That's not his role.

1855
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,719
Speaker 1: He's they they've been moving him a move tight end block,

1856
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, in the fullback at fullback position. If that

1857
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,679
Speaker 1: was my role and I'm not on any special teams,

1858
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:52,799
Speaker 1: I'd start looking around going, um, hey, I can cover kicks,

1859
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:57,200
Speaker 1: raise my hand, hey, I can blocks. What do you

1860
01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,560
Speaker 1: want to do, coach? Coach put me in because you

1861
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 1: have to contribute there if you're gonna make this roster. So, um,

1862
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:07,160
Speaker 1: I spring that up because cuts are coming tomorrow. Yes five.

1863
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's getting cut. Um, I have no

1864
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:12,600
Speaker 1: idea who's getting cut? Um? Urban North Trent called me,

1865
01:44:12,720 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: give me asking me. Didn't know. I'm shocked they should.

1866
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:17,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they're new and all guys, but

1867
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 1: Tony's on the wall. You know, they understand that he

1868
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,880
Speaker 1: has to go through me. I mean, like to ask you,

1869
01:44:23,240 --> 01:44:24,840
Speaker 1: you'll tell them. By the way, no one in the

1870
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 1: history of this franchise has ever called me and asked me.

1871
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 1: I had plenty opinions every years, a player or not,

1872
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,639
Speaker 1: but that no one asked me. And I'm also curious.

1873
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: Urban touched on a little bit today. The effort of

1874
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,600
Speaker 1: all these guys put through it. It's kind of be

1875
01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:41,559
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1877
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1878
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1885
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Speaker 1: It's like it's easy, like just get out, Like I'm

1887
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Speaker 1: tired of giving you four chances. Yeah, that's enough. But

1888
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1889
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Speaker 1: working your tail off and you're just not good enough,

1890
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1891
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1893
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1894
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Speaker 1: in the nation on radio than JP. So I'll choose

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Speaker 1: JP every day of the week. How about that. That's

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Speaker 1: that's high praise. Appreciate that, coins but at it for

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Speaker 1: a long time. Collin's great love Gong been on the

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Speaker 1: show several times. I think he's one of the best

1902
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Speaker 1: radio people, uh, in the business. What do you have

1903
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 1: to say about what he does? Before I get that?

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Speaker 1: What he does is remarkable to me. He literally carries

1905
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1906
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1907
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Speaker 1: how hard is just to talk into a mic for

1908
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Speaker 1: three straight out? And Jim Rome It's like, what it is? Unreal?

1909
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Speaker 1: I mean it's not easy. Um. And so I think

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Speaker 1: he's one of the best. Um, what do you have

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Speaker 1: to say about that? But I still choose to be

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Speaker 1: with you JP. Just asking about it was a lot

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Speaker 1: of Trevor. It was let me, let me give you

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Speaker 1: the gist of the interview, which is most which is

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Speaker 1: this is what people want to know. It's actually tell

1916
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Speaker 1: me about urban. How's it going with Urban? Tell me that, Trevor,

1917
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Speaker 1: how's it going? Trevor? I mean, that's the And then

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Speaker 1: he asked me a question about Gardner Minshew if I

1919
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Speaker 1: thought he was a starting quarterback or not in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: um I said, on a team that wants to contend

1921
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Speaker 1: for a championship and for the playoffs, I do not

1922
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 1: think he's really started. I don't think he's a franchise quarterback.

1923
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Um. I said that last year. Um

1924
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:05,760
Speaker 1: I think, is is he a guy that if you

1925
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 1: are looking for a transition, can you start and win

1926
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Speaker 1: using football games? Sure? Could he be like a Ryan

1927
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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick type of player? Sure? In time? I think yeah,

1928
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Speaker 1: I mean immediately, which I don't. I don't think he's

1929
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Speaker 1: a if I'm building a franchise, he's not my starting quarterback.

1930
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Speaker 1: Like I mean, if you're trying to go win a championship,

1931
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Speaker 1: I mean nothing against them. I love the competitiveness, I

1932
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Speaker 1: love his like work, hard, grit, all those things. But

1933
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Speaker 1: if you're asking me honestly, like I think he's a

1934
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Speaker 1: good really good backup if you if you have a

1935
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback that can come in and win games when

1936
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Speaker 1: the guy's out until he gets back, if you're transitioning,

1937
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Speaker 1: looking for that in between before till you find the guy. Okay,

1938
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Speaker 1: if I'm trying to win a championship by building my

1939
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Speaker 1: team around Um Gardner. I'm not others might. Social questions

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Speaker 1: are in the book. Thank you for the submissions today.

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Speaker 1: We'll do it again in a couple of weeks when

1942
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1996
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Speaker 1: said those said Thursday, but I didn't. J. P. Shadrick,

1997
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Speaker 1: that's Tony Boselli. No, Pete Frisco. He'll be back a

1998
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I can collapse. In the background. There

1999
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Speaker 1: are people buzzing about this show tonight, Tony Award winning,

2000
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Speaker 1: highest ratings ever. I'm gonna tell you this one is

2001
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Speaker 1: right up there, almost as good as the one when

2002
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Speaker 1: you were gone in London. Well, I know your dad prefers.

2003
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Speaker 1: Pete's gone more than me. I know that for a fact.

2004
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Speaker 1: I got inside sources that Mr Shaddick prefers show. I mean,

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Speaker 1: who doesn't really, I mean, if you don't, then there's

2006
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's something wrong now and for everyone

2007
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Speaker 1: next week you gonna have to just I mean, the

2008
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2012
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Speaker 1: And so what was told there would be no math

2013
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Speaker 1: to know a lot of pregame stuff will be on it.

2014
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Speaker 1: But Unfortunately, there will be no Monday Night show next weekend. Um,

2015
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Speaker 1: due to contract issues. I will not be here on Tuesday.

2016
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Speaker 1: You're not coming in to do the backup show. No,

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Speaker 1: what's not Joe said, I didn't have to go. Joe

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Speaker 1: reason is because I don't think we have any airtime Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: We could, I mean create it if we needed to.

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Speaker 1: I think that's probably Monday nights. We'll be back in

2023
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Speaker 1: two weeks from now. Yeah, the Monday Night show of course.

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Speaker 1: Now this week coming up Wednesday, it's Huddle Up with

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks Wednesday afternoon, four o'clock on Jaguars dot Com.

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01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 1: I'll tell you one of the best editions we made.

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Speaker 1: It was last year and he had a role in

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Speaker 1: his roles expanding. It was Bucky Brooks. Bucky Brooks, if

2029
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Speaker 1: you've ever not have you ever seen him, former teammate

2030
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: of mine, if you ever saw him, if you ever

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Speaker 1: get a chance to see him on the NFL network,

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01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 1: I believe it is it is. Um. I get confused

2033
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Speaker 1: with all the different stations. He is really good and

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01:53:35,479 --> 01:53:37,760
Speaker 1: he does a great job, and the addition of him

2035
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 1: to our team has been a great one. I know

2036
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Speaker 1: he if you watched if if you were unfortunate enough

2037
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Speaker 1: not to hear the radio on Saturday night, which I

2038
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Speaker 1: know that was much listening for everybody to listen to

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Speaker 1: Jeff and I, um, I'm sure him and I know

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Speaker 1: He's he's, he's he is, so he's so good and

2042
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Speaker 1: and so what's this Wednesday show? I mean, it's uh.

2043
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Speaker 1: We used to call it Happy Hours Huddle Up with

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. We've made that the podcast in the offseason

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Speaker 1: called it huddle Up because it was Wednesday midweek kind

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Speaker 1: of thing, you know, And we put it out in

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Speaker 1: four o'clock dot com Bucky good luck. Try to get

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Speaker 1: There's only one first place on this network, and that's

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Speaker 1: when you were in London is number one. This is

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Speaker 1: a close second. Let's let's be clear. The dame of

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Speaker 1: this show is BESSELLI, Shadrick and sometimes Pe Prisco here

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Speaker 1: Is there any doubt about that? I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. No. But and then and then Thursday

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Speaker 1: we have coaches happy and I'll I'll be joining weeks.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the road doing Thursday night football. Now we

2062
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Speaker 1: have a great lineup. The team does great. I'm looking

2063
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Speaker 1: for this is good time in the morning. Oh, it's great.

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2067
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2068
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: and I did forget about him? So anyways, good stuff

2069
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Speaker 1: and the hope is and we saw, you know, a

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Speaker 1: snippet on Saturday night of this Jaguar team. Um, some good,

2071
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Speaker 1: some bad, some ugly. You know, probably I found. You know,

2072
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Speaker 1: it was interesting because going into the game and going

2073
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Speaker 1: into camp, there was so much excitement because Urban and

2074
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Speaker 1: Trevor and and to the point because it happened back

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Speaker 1: in February or in the January hired or been excitement

2076
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Speaker 1: have the first of all pick free agency, Okay, not

2077
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Speaker 1: as much excitement, maybe as usual because it wasn't the big,

2078
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Speaker 1: big splash guy but a good pleaser skill Griffriend and uh,

2079
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Speaker 1: it's spent a lot of free agency money they had,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't get like everyone wanted, like whatever, But anyways, excitement.

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Speaker 1: Then the draft comes Lawrence who excitement and it's just

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Speaker 1: you have O, T A and and like there's this

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Speaker 1: fever pitch and I think people were like, we are

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Speaker 1: super like we were in the super Bowl, like we

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Speaker 1: are ready, here we go domination. Depending on who you asked, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean and I felt it, which is good, that's

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Speaker 1: what you wanted, fans. But then you got into the

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Speaker 1: preseason game and all of a sudden you're playing the

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Speaker 1: Browns backups. It doesn't go so well. I think that's

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Speaker 1: good from this standpoint. Hey, little like, we have work

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Speaker 1: to do. That doesn't mean we're not gonna be a

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Speaker 1: good team. That doesn't mean Urban was it. I mean

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Speaker 1: Urban's great, Trevor's great, we got all these great players,

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Speaker 1: but it's the reality ality check is that we have

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Speaker 1: a this is uh what's the old saying? Rome wasn't

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Speaker 1: built in a day break by It's a process. You

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Speaker 1: have to lay a foundation, you have to do the

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Speaker 1: hard work. You have to get in the details, you

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Speaker 1: need the reps, you need to go on the same page,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna take a process. It's gonna take time.

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Speaker 1: Um and so everyone just take a deep breath. Don't panic.

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Speaker 1: It's okay. It wasn't great. Some good stuff, some bad stuff,

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Speaker 1: some of this stuff, but don't panic. It'll be okay

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Speaker 1: as long as we keep on getting the error point

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Speaker 1: in the right direction so that this thing hits a

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Speaker 1: um crescendo. Come Houston. We have to kick it off

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Speaker 1: for real, because that's what matters everything. All you're trying

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Speaker 1: to do is get the building blocks in place where

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Speaker 1: you can put your best foot forward and have your

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Speaker 1: best performance when you play Houston, and then you know

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Speaker 1: what you do after that. Then you start building again

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Speaker 1: and try to have your best performance whoever we play

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Speaker 1: the next week, Denver Broncos. How much do you charge

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Speaker 1: an hour for these sessions? Tony? I should charge I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about opening a website self help with this is

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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli. I'm listening than to steal Fraser's line, right,

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Speaker 1: you're helping a lot of people right down. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you disagree. Yeah, that's the first preseason. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: a whole new, the whole things new. Yeah, you got

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Speaker 1: a month to the regular season and then that's when

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Speaker 1: it really meant Now, like we said earlier, if that

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Speaker 1: happens Week one in Houston, okay, alarm bells might ring

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but you got a month until all

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Speaker 1: that goes down. A couple of quick NFL notes, Cam

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Speaker 1: Newton or Mac Jones. Who's gonna start in New England? Tony,

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Speaker 1: I think Cam starts the opening day. I think by

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, Mac Jones is your starter.

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Speaker 1: Seahawks made a final offer to fifth year safety Jamal Adams.

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Speaker 1: Will he play in Seattle? And he'll play? And it

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Speaker 1: makes sense to said, if you're an player, short career

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Speaker 1: is too short. And Dalton the number one quarterback in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Go Fields needs more reps. Will he be the starter

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Speaker 1: at some point sooner before the season ends? Fields will

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Speaker 1: be a starter in a Dalton will start the season.

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Speaker 1: They have a good football team, good defense. There, there's

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Speaker 1: a look around the NFL. That's how we roll. Because

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Speaker 1: we had our session with Tony Boselli that calm everybody

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Speaker 1: can breath. Peter me back with us in a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks. We're off next Monday because of Monday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: The Jags and the Saints coming up. Great show, Tony, JP,

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Speaker 1: thanks to John Osier, thanks to Greg Cosal, Joe Fortunado,

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Speaker 1: Brent Reebert Trimpadia. I'm JP, Shadrick and we will catch

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Speaker 1: you next time. It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Digital Network.