WEBVTT - No One Looks Like That! 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:06.120 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:11.560 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe, Getty Armstrong and Jettie 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:24.159 and He Armstrong and Yetty Yo yo yo, thanks for 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.960 joining us. Joe is in He's the Getty half of 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.800 Armstrong and Getty. Joe is in England on vacation. I 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:33.160 think he's gonna call in a little bit later, half 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:37.680 in his cups, drunk on bass ale. But we're having 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.560 a variety of guests on today to keep me sane, 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.560 including who we used to call Craig the Obamacare lawyer, 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:46.120 back when we're trying to work our way through what 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.360 the hell Obamacare was or is, which continues to be 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.600 the law of the land, right Craig. Welcome, Craig Gottwaals. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:57.480 Obamacare is. It's just just became status quo as we 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.480 all predicted it would be, and and all of our 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.680 deductibles went way, way, way, way up, and we all 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:05.200 just accepted that that's the way they're going to be 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:06.680 for the rest of our lives. So that's the way 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.560 that turned out. Hey, I do have a quick health 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.360 related thing for you before we get into some other 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:14.920 stuff that you and I were texting about last night. 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:22.240 I got a friend who's got a pretty bad health diagnosis, 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.640 and I suggested, man, you ought to get a second opinion. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.040 But people throw around the whole get a second opinion 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.480 like it's easy to do. I've never actually done it. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.479 How do you even go about doing that? Does your 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.679 insurance like you do that? What do you do? Do 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:38.920 you go to a completely different doctor grouper? 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:41.200 What is that? 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:42.400 What is the second opinion? 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.720 Yeah, some of that's going to depend on what kind 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:46.680 of plan you're on, whether it's a PPO or an 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:49.880 HMO or like what we call an open access plan. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.120 But what are most people let's start there. What do 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:57.000 most people have? Who have? People wear a company healthcare 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.680 for APO? Okay, yeah, that's what I thought. Most of 0:01:59.720 --> 0:02:01.720 us have PPO. So if we have a PPO, how 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:02.800 do we get a second opinion? 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:04.640 Yeah? 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.440 The easiest way to get a second opinion in that 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.639 case would be to pick a different primary care doctor 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.680 in a different medical group and just go through the 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.600 process again, because if you stay within this through. 0:02:14.480 --> 0:02:17.640 The whole process again, go through the whole process again, 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:22.400 while you're probably not feeling very good, maybe feeling terrible. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.000 Yeah, it at that point. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:28.079 So it's gonna come down to how much you trust 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:31.120 your doctor and the medical group, because if you stay 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.000 within the same medical group, they're going to have a 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:35.720 pretty strong bias to confirm what's. 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.960 Already been done. Well, that exactly, that's what I want 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:38.320 to second. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.560 Yeah, there's two things wrong with several things wrong with that, 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.600 And it's a tell me it's not a common phrase, 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.640 Well you should get a second opinion. People throw that 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:47.560 around all the time like it's an easy thing to do. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.639 But so I'd have to go through the whole process. 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:52.360 Am i am? I kind of like half firing my 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:55.919 primary doctor I've had maybe for years, I'm probably friends 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.160 with at this point. How offended is he or she 0:02:58.320 --> 0:02:58.760 going to be? 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.320 Well, most plans will have a mechanism in there for 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.400 a second opinion so that it's not so that you're 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.840 not Now if it's an HMO, which a lot of 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.840 people are on in larger cities, then kind of are 0:03:11.960 --> 0:03:14.799 firing that doctor because you'd pick a different primary care 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:16.800 doctor come back to them in a future month. But 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:19.960 most PPOs will have a mechanism. You can do it 0:03:19.960 --> 0:03:21.280 the other way to do it if you have a 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.560 little bit of means at all is to go out 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.960 into the market and find a direct primary care doctor, 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.200 somebody who's left the system and sees you for like 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:31.840 one hundred or one hundred and twenty five dollars a 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:35.240 month fee. That way, you can keep doing what you're 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.680 doing with your system doctor on your planet work, for example, 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:41.360 But then you can spend a couple hundred dollars and 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.200 go off to the side and see one of these 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:46.280 direct primary care doctors who's left the system and will 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.880 then give you a truly independent analysis that if you 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:50.960 have some means at all, that's what I would recommend. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:56.360 Okay, that's a little frustrating. I mean, they don't offer 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.640 that up to you, certainly after they give you a diagnosis. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.839 And the one thing I learned nil people all this time, 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:03.040 The main thing I learned from when I had cancer 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.400 is there's a lot of guessing. There's way more guessing 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.800 than I ever believed was the case. And you can 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:11.400 talk to a couple of different people and they have 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:13.360 completely different opinions. 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.520 So well, not just cancer, I mean all these complicated. 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.279 I mean, sure, if we just start looking at autoimmune diseases, 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.240 and then the way these the new the new drugs 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:26.080 are affecting that. It's it's you know, because of what 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.440 I do. I have a lot of good friendships with doctors, 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.640 and it's shocking how you can talk to two very 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.880 well respected doctors that have been doing this for decades 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.760 and they'll have incredibly different opinions on how you should 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:39.919 treat X, Y or Z, especially when we get to 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:41.640 like autoimmune or even cancer YEP. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.000 I have that exact situation with my son where they 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.719 I have two PhD level, been around forever people with 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.440 almost one hundred and eighty degree apart opinions, And what 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.800 am I supposed to do with that information? Anyway? That's 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.480 enough of that health stuff for now, So this is interesting. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.840 So we talked to I know your friends Tim Sanderfer. 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.880 We had Tim the lawyer on Last Hour, and we 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.520 were talking about AI and all the different sort of stuff. 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.040 And I'm fascinated by AI and I read lots of 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.680 books and listen to a lot of podcasts because I 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.080 think it's I think it's going to be a really 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:15.520 big deal. I don't know if it's going to be 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.400 as big as fire, Like the guy from Google says 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.120 to mankind, the invention of fire but I mean, if 0:05:22.160 --> 0:05:28.520 if it's half that, it would be shockingly huge. A 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.560 lot of people are worried about AI taken so many jobs. 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.160 We're gonna have to come up with some sort of 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.200 guaranteed income thing to pay people to stay home and 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.120 play the flute because there just aren't going to be 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.679 enough jobs. AI is going to take it over. Tim says, 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.000 this is going to be like every other technology that's 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.600 come along. It's going to develop all kinds of new 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.040 jobs that you've never even thought of yet. It'll take 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:52.360 care of itself. The cotton gin didn't eliminate all farm workers. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.640 It started all kinds of other different things, and you 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.200 end up with more jobs. Where are you on that question? 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.320 Because Tim Tim Tim thinks now that he's not worried 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:02.680 about it. I am. I think it's going to destroy 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.440 the entire world. Go ahead. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.800 I fall much closer to Tim it goes. 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:09.160 I hope you're both right. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.600 I'm using it. I'm using it every day at work. 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.920 In fact, everybody in my office is. We're using it regularly. 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.080 And what it's done is it's allowed me to just 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.120 become so much more efficient with not wasting a lot 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:22.240 of time on some of the more menial tasks that 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.800 I don't want to have to burn time on. I 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.279 can use AI to standardize and templatize a lot of 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.839 the things that i'm doing quickly. I'll give you an example, Jack, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:34.440 because you know I'm a lawyer and I'm reviewing healthcare contracts. 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:39.440 Just recently, I took six different Pharmacy Benefit Manager PBM contracts. 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:41.280 So it's the part of your health plan that deals 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.600 with all the drugs. Six different contracts. All of them 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.480 were between fifty and one hundred pages. I uploaded all 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:49.520 of them into chatch GPT, I said, and then I 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.520 gave it like a whole page of instruction on what 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.520 I wanted. I wanted to compare and contrast this. I 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:56.719 wanted to know the weaknesses and strengths. I wanted to 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:58.400 know where I could find a B and C and 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.720 D in each contract, and I wanted it to put 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.039 it all in a grid for me. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:03.479 So it did. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:04.800 Within like ten minutes. 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:08.000 I had this unbelievable chart that it spit back to me, 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:09.920 where then I could go back and just hit the 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:13.120 highlights of the contracts in my review. Now, where that 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.560 would be devastating is if you had zero idea what 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.160 you were doing if you weren't a healthcare attorney, for example, 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.920 and you didn't know where it was wrong. Because it's wrong, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.000 as you guys have reported, it's wrong a good clip 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.680 of the time. It'll make things up or it'll have 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:29.400 something totally off. But when you're already an expert in 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:32.160 an area to take care. I mean, it saved me 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.360 four hours doing what it did, and then I could 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:36.600 just spend one hour fine tuning it and making it 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.560 exactly what I needed to see from my clients. 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.200 But you do have the problems of hallucinations or whatever. 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:42.160 It just makes stuff up. 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:46.120 Now, then absolutely, yeah, you have to watch it. What 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:49.080 I tell my coworkers is when it tells you something 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.960 that you think is just maybe not quite right, you 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:53.760 have to tell it give me a source for that, 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.400 and then you have to hit that source and you 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:58.120 have to go look at it because it will get. 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.440 Things completely wrong. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.480 I've read the stats that say fifty percent of the time. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.520 I think that's too high, but I see it getting 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:06.280 things wrong twenty percent of the time anyway. 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.400 Really, okay, that's interesting. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.040 Yeah, Well, it sends you to a link that doesn't exist, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:12.840 or it just says something that's not right. 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:15.320 Okay, So I asked a lot of questions that I 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.720 have no expertise in, and so it could maybe it's 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.800 lied to me way more often than I realize, and 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.280 then I probably repeated on the radio. But I'm I'm 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.000 I've mentioned this a thousand times. I'm reading the book 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.120 Ulysses by James Joyce. I'm trying to fight my way 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.360 through that book. And I've been using chat GBT when 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:32.199 I get stuck on something. But I had one the 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:33.760 other day where it was just I knew it was 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.440 completely wrong, like just as wrong as wrong could be, 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:39.320 And I wonder how often that happens. I asked a 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.600 question yesterday about taking zinc when you got a cold, 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.480 and the information it spit out for me for different 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:46.760 ages and different studies and stuff like that, as far 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:49.880 as I know, was absolutely fascinating and so fast. So 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:53.600 which you mentioned chat GPT several times. There's a whole 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:57.839 bunch of AI apps or programs or whatever you can 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.600 call them chatbots out there. How many of them are 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:01.079 you using? 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.439 Yeah, so I'm using I'm using an upgraded version of 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.240 chat GPT that I've paid for and I've trained with 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:10.160 a lot of what I do for healthcare law. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.120 Do you think the paid for one is Do you 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.240 think the paid one paid for one is worth it 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.200 for the average person or only if you have an 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:17.160 expertise in something. 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:19.560 I think if you're using it for work, the paid 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:20.880 for one is worth it. I mean if you're just 0:09:20.960 --> 0:09:23.600 using it for for fun and for social you know, 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.400 I don't think you need to pay for it, but 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.040 I lean on it pretty heavily at times and chat. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:30.199 GPT seems to. 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.800 Be the best one for like legal analysis and writing 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:37.920 and writing templates when I have to when I start 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.599 working with Excel spreadsheets, for example, when I want to 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.080 compare large Excel spreadsheets and I want to I want 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:45.480 to have AI shortcut some of that for me, I 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.480 find that Gemini Google's seems to be the best one 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:49.480 for me in that lane. 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.000 And then the other thing. 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.400 That we use a lot at work because we do 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.680 a lot of presentations for clients and a lot of 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:59.680 visual stuff. Will use mid Journey to create art and imagery, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.800 which is I think the industry leader easily for you know, 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.840 creating those pictures in those and those slides that are. 0:10:05.760 --> 0:10:06.920 Oh so if you want to do it really you 0:10:06.960 --> 0:10:09.160 want to do images and stuff you like mid Journey, 0:10:09.200 --> 0:10:10.240 which I'd never even heard of. 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:10.960 Mid Journey. 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:14.240 Yeah, mid Journey's amazing. And I actually learned that an 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:16.360 artist friend of mine in the Bay Area who said, 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.680 that's the only one artists you're using is mid Journey? 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:20.360 Jar that, Katie, because I know you do a lot 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:22.599 of that. That's a good one. Mid Journey is that? 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:24.120 And is that just something like I can put on 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:25.160 my phone getting. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:29.600 That, Yeah, it's just a weblink or there's probably an app, 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:30.880 but I just I just hit it on a on a. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.000 On a web page browser. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.200 And I actually do pay for the upgraded version of 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.320 that one as well, because we we hit it a 0:10:37.360 --> 0:10:41.360 lot for creating. You know, you see a presentation at 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:43.280 your job, right and you get so sick of seeing 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:44.640 the same clip art over and over. 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:46.959 Well, we'll just use mid Journey to create unique art. 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.120 That way, I know that when I'm giving a presentation 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.800 to a client, they've never seen this imagery before. It's 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:55.280 not you know, some stock imagery, but that Journey. We 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.160 hit it, but use a free version of it as well. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:02.400 Mid Journey. I'm looking for it, Okay, I haven't missed 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:04.720 around with Google Gemini. I need to do that just 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:07.560 because I know they're pouring so many billions of dollars 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:11.200 into that sort of thing, because there's a big belief 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:16.240 among Eli and Eli, Elon and Google and you know 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:21.360 a couple of different people that whoever emerges as the leader, 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:27.080 there's trillions of dollars involved in that, and it's worth 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:28.560 trying to be the best. So I need to figure 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.760 out what Gemini is up to. 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The FDA is warning 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.680 consumers not to eat frozen shrimp from Walmart because it 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.679 may contain radioactive material. 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.240 Also because it's frozen shrimp from Walmart. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.160 Aren't you an elitist? You don't eat shrimp? From homart. 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:07.080 I don't need it. We're talking with Craig Gottwalls, who 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.920 is a healthcare expert. I actually we're talking about other things. 0:13:09.920 --> 0:13:11.120 But if people want to get a hold of you, 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:12.800 like for some healthcare advice, how do they get. 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:13.080 A hold of you? 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.320 The easiest way probably Gottwalls dot substack dot com. 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.400 Okay, cool, we're just talking about AI and want to 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.240 finish up that conversation. Uh, because I'm fascinated by it, 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.160 and man, if you're not brushing up against it yet, 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:30.439 you will be. So I suggest get on the front 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.360 end of checking some of this stuff out. But I 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:36.560 was talking to a teacher, my next door neighbor. She 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:40.240 teaches ninth grade English, and I asked her about AI, 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:41.760 and I can tell her eyes lit up and she 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:43.319 kind of rolled her eyes, like, oh, yeah, it's really 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.440 hard now to figure out if a kid wrote his 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:49.400 paper and all this different sort of stuff. I know 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:52.280 you've taught college classes in the past working with people. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.880 How do you is there is there a way to 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.679 tell if something's AI or if some it's actually a 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:58.560 human beings work. 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:03.120 Yeah, it's becoming it's becoming increasingly easy to tell honestly, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:04.640 because I use it so much. I can see how 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:05.960 it writes, and I see how it works. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:06.600 It does things. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.280 Katie mentioned one earlier in the week, or maybe it 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:13.439 was last week, the long dash, the ridiculously long dash 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.560 that none of us ever grew up using. 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:18.240 But AI uses like it's going out of style. 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:20.600 True, And it's not just like I'm typing, I put 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:22.080 a dash, and I keep typing and it puts a 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.440 little dash in there. No, it's a it's a dash 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.280 that goes all the way from one word to the next. 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:28.600 If you see that in a response that you get, 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.840 you know that was written by AI. 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.720 That's true. I'm looking at Yeah, I'm looking at my 0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:38.800 chat GPT question about I was getting getting seasick on 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:41.440 my sailing lessons and asking about what medicine is the 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.680 best for that. Yeah, and all the answers really long 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:44.560 dashes in there. 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.880 Okay, a ton of them too. 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.080 And I've even I've even gone into AI. Remember, I've 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:51.200 got the upgraded version that I've trained, and I've said 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.040 stop using that. I don't write that way. I've routed 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:55.840 it back to all of my articles that I've written 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.960 and said, this is how I write write this way, 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:01.080 don't use those dashes, and for whatever reason, I can't 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.440 get it to stop doing that. So I don't know 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.200 how how smart AI is when when that's our reality 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:13.480 right right. The other one is emojis gone wild. It 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.440 will it will put so many emojis in a response 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.960 a lot of times, especially people that are using it 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:22.280 to put up posts on like LinkedIn or Instagram or whatever. 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.760 You'll see just way too many emojis and all these 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.920 like crazy emojis that humans don't ever use. 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:29.200 It's just it's a total tell that it's a hi. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:30.600 Oh. 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.640 And then the last one and this is a simple one. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.840 But if you have it write memo or if you 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.920 have it write like a formal letter, it puts lines, 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.240 like actual lines between the sections. And so sometimes I'll 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.440 get something from somebody that's got the lines in it still, 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.960 and I'm like, dude, you didn't even bother to delete 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:49.520 the lines out of this pure AI that you just 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:51.160 regurgitated back at me. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.680 So a lot and then. 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.160 A lot of LinkedIn is AI you tell me, yeah, 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.360 fifty And this was according to a studied I'm back 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:00.920 in October. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.440 I swear to god, it's higher now. 0:16:02.640 --> 0:16:07.920 Fifty four percent of everything on LinkedIn is AI generated. Wow, 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:12.080 even this is my favorite. There's a few attorneys that 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.760 I like and I follow on LinkedIn that we share ideas. 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:18.680 One of them has in their bio one hundred percent 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.440 non AI generated. So I'm reading one of I won't 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.560 even say the gender. I'm reading one of their posts 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.240 the other day and it says and I'm reading it, 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.160 and I'm going, this is AI. I can tell by 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:31.440 the the all the little catchphrases it uses all the 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.440 all the you know, here's the deal, and all the 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.880 kind of almost like the bidenisms that it throws us 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:37.680 out there, and I'm like, this is AI. 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.400 So then here's another trick you can use. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.480 Go to Google and just type in AI detection tool 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.400 and you'll be able to pull up, you know, dozens 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.560 of different websites where you copy the text, paste it in, 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:51.640 and then it'll tell you, with pretty good likelihood what 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:54.800 percentage of that text generated was AI. So this is 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.440 what university professors are using and high school teachers are 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.680 using to detect it because it has all these tells 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.560 in it that you just get used to over time. 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:04.240 Yeah, that's really interesting. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:04.399 One. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.119 I'm not smart enough or I haven't spent enough time 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:08.720 with it to pick it up in print. But I 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.880 feel like I can tell an AI image immediately. They're 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:18.280 just too something, They're too something, they're too perfect. There's 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:19.480 no human being that looks like that. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.440 The other tell this is fascinating. 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.159 So we had a college intern working with us this 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:26.560 summer and she was shadowing me for a couple of weeks. 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.959 She told me it's so prevalent in her university that 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:35.080 she will purposefully submit papers with five or six grammatical 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.160 errors in them because she does not want to even 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.520 come close to getting accused of using AI to write 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:41.040 her papers. 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.960 Ah wow, So you get AI to write a paper 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:46.520 for you, then you go back in and put in 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:51.920 some grammatical errors, and that's who you trick, your teacher. Okay, 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.680 I do want to get to that Russia Ukraine stuff 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.160 in just a second. There was I think a fair 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:59.200 amount of movement that on that on Sunday with Lavrov 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:01.040