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Speaker 1: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make.

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Speaker 1: You guys are prose the best, relentless, refusing to give up.

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Speaker 4: What is up everybody, and welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 4: the Fantasy Flex Podcast. I am your host, Chris Raybon,

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Speaker 4: joined as always by one of the top rankers in

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Speaker 4: the game in Sean Kerner, and today we're gonna be

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Speaker 4: talking all about fantasy.

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Speaker 3: At Football Busts.

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Speaker 4: And to do that, we got a very special guest,

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Speaker 4: one of my favorite dudes in the industry. He's at PFF.

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Speaker 4: You've probably seen him on Twitter. Ian Hard it's Ian.

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Thanks for taking the time.

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Speaker 1: Love pod with you guys. Once upon a time we

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Speaker 1: And yeah, pumped here to be talking some faith. It's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. These are the episodes I love.

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Speaker 4: get these in. Just a reminder, make sure you rate

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna start because you know, we're recording this on

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Speaker 4: Roster could day. So is there any any cuts out

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Speaker 4: All right, let's Uh, let's get into this this fantasy

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Speaker 1: The Sammy Watkins Week one Honor of Excellence.

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Speaker 4: Of the players you're fading in a twelve sea league.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And you got to kind of decide on your

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Speaker 1: This middle range against it's a mixture of I don't

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Speaker 1: it's unique this year, guys, having the Kareem Hunt, Quadero Patterson,

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Speaker 1: exactly what's called Brian Robinson. I can get behind that,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, That's that's kind of how I approach it too.

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Speaker 4: It's like I look at that whole frozen ponds here

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Speaker 4: But Sean, what about you, who's some guys at running

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Dobbins is a guy that's always the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they don't care who they use. I mean

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Speaker 4: of games in a premium pick like this or might

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Speaker 4: not get a full work. But when I could take

435
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Speaker 4: like a Terry McLaurin, who's going to get like, you know,

436
00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,520
Speaker 4: forty percent of his team's air yards or something like that.

437
00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,679
Speaker 4: So I think, you know, Aker stands out to me

438
00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 4: and JK. Dobbins and then you know, as far as

439
00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,680
Speaker 4: the rest of these guys, like I can see concerns

440
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,560
Speaker 4: with you know, even a guy like Breise Hall who

441
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 4: is going to start the year probably as the number

442
00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,680
Speaker 4: two behind Carter, and then we're kind of banking on

443
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,399
Speaker 4: them to take over. But it's a it's an offense.

444
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,840
Speaker 4: It's not gonna score a ton of touchdowns, you don't think, so, like,

445
00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 4: he could be too high, you know you already mentioned Mitchell.

446
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,919
Speaker 4: I think Jacobs has you know, some bust potential as well,

447
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,800
Speaker 4: though I like his upside to kind of balance it out.

448
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Speaker 3: But anyone is too high, Chris.

449
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 1: What about like Damian PIERSO, because he's about to be

450
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,639
Speaker 1: in that conversation. I know, I think it's going to

451
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Speaker 1: cost a round five pick to get him, And I'll

452
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Speaker 1: tell you what I'm I'm not liking Round five Damian Pierce.

453
00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks ago, Round eight, Round nine, Okay,

454
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 1: not this, Yeah, he's still playing on the Texans. Man,

455
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 1: they're still gonna use Rex and probably Thario google Wali

456
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 1: on pass down.

457
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Speaker 4: It's like, come on, yeah, exactly, And I think that's

458
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,239
Speaker 4: that's what people who don't like fully always look at

459
00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 4: these like snap counts and things don't realize, like like

460
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,840
Speaker 4: this team is going to use other backs, especially in

461
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,680
Speaker 4: passing situations, and it's a battle one and so you're

462
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Speaker 4: gonna have like terrible game script every game pretty much

463
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Speaker 4: for the Tech except that incept. Yeah, like it's set

464
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:57,879
Speaker 4: when they probably played the Colts on opening Day and

465
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Speaker 4: they'll probably because the coach never went on a don't

466
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,880
Speaker 4: get that one. Yeah yeah, but after trade him after

467
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 4: week one. No, but I love Piercey. I hate the

468
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 4: spot that he's that he's gonna end up on. All right,

469
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,280
Speaker 4: let's shift gears and go to wide receiver Ian. Who

470
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Speaker 4: are some guys at wide receiver that you think could bested.

471
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Speaker 1: Two earlier round ones that are sticking out are Deebo,

472
00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 1: Samuel sixteenth player. Overall, that's the issue for me. If

473
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: I can get debone round three, iinec that's fine, But

474
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 1: like right now PFF projections we have him twenty six

475
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 1: and targets among wide receivers with one hundred and ten.

476
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Speaker 1: If he gets the role he had in weeks one

477
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 1: through nine last year, is going to be fantastic. But

478
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Speaker 1: his fantasy points per game didn't change when he started

479
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: playing running back. More so people didn't really care. And okay,

480
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: points of points he was at twenty one versus twenty

481
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,119
Speaker 1: weeks one through nine versus weeks ten to the NFC Championship,

482
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Speaker 1: his expected PPR points per game went from seventeen point

483
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Speaker 1: one to twelve point seven. We don't want rush attempts

484
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Speaker 1: when they take the place of targets. If it's a

485
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Speaker 1: guy getting one hundred targets and we can throw twenty

486
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: rush attempts on, great, fine, we'll take the extra touches.

487
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 1: But we talked about this there running backs all the time,

488
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,880
Speaker 1: like the Deebo Samuel role. It needs to be done

489
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Speaker 1: by a guy who's apparently going to be the most

490
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: efficient running back in all of football. That's what Deebo

491
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 1: was last year. That's why it worked. I don't like

492
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,640
Speaker 1: having to bet on that behind an offensive lineup might

493
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Speaker 1: not be as dominant and a healthier team that could

494
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Speaker 1: actually now be using guys like Jeff Wilson, Trey Sermon,

495
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 1: Terran Davis Price a new third round rookie more so

496
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: in that running back rule. So then we're left with

497
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 1: Deebo adjusting to a new quarterback and Trey Lanson. I

498
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: think what we saw Nick Moollen's average over eight yards

499
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: per attempt, Like I think Shanny's going to scheme enough,

500
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: you know, easy quick hitters there for Lance and having

501
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, just beasts like Deebo Kittle and Brandon Eyuk

502
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,200
Speaker 1: out there like Lance will be fine. But we see

503
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 1: this with the dual threat quarterbacks. All this is really

504
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 1: good for the quarterback, not so good for the rest

505
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 1: of the pieces in the offense. So for Deebo, it's

506
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: just one of those situations where I got to take

507
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Speaker 1: a player sixteenth overall who could understandably just finish second

508
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: on his own team and targets like it's a lot

509
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: to pay, And yeah, he's amazingly talented. I get it,

510
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 1: But so are the players going around to Devonte Adams

511
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 1: Tyreek kill like Ceedee Lamb. Sometimes, man, I'm not faiting

512
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel for some scrub with more volume otfaiting them

513
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Speaker 1: for a fellow baller wide receiver that objectively has a

514
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,840
Speaker 1: much higher volume floor. So for me, with Deebo not

515
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Speaker 1: taking them in the middle of round two, and then

516
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 1: also man, just on Chris's point about one of these

517
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Speaker 1: guys that are actively injured right now, Jalen Waddell with

518
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 1: this soft tissue injury three weeks apparently not practicing already,

519
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: was a little bit steep for me. I mean, we've

520
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: seen an average over the last decade four point three

521
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: teams have produced multiple top twenty four PPR wide receivers

522
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Speaker 1: in the same season. Yeah, okay, I can see Tua

523
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: taking a nice little leap forward, but really, is he

524
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Speaker 1: going to be one of those quarterbacks to enable to

525
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: top twenty four wide receivers. It could happen, But you

526
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: see the Bengals, you know, the Chargers, Bucks Bill's, Broncos, Rams, Vikings, Raiders.

527
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: You start to kind of quickly come up with these

528
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 1: other teams that I think make a bit more sense.

529
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Speaker 1: So Waddle was someone that I think was always just

530
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Speaker 1: going to have a hard time in a slow paced

531
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Speaker 1: and potentially more run heavy offense. I think we're giving

532
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Speaker 1: credit for out over there in Miami, depending on how

533
00:22:56,600 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: much Mike McDaniel takes away from Kyle Shanahan. But Jalen

534
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: Wattle is a number two wide receiver seemingly out in

535
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: a while else they paid Tyreek all that money big

536
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: priced really far more like a wide receiver one. So

537
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,479
Speaker 1: I've been drafting guys like, you know, Terry McLaurin obviously

538
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver ones, but Terry McLaurin, and I

539
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: just think that Jalen Waddle probably deserves to be way

540
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: more kind of in that Gabriel Davis, Allen Robinson mix.

541
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Speaker 1: I don't think that in this offense he should be

542
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Speaker 1: prioritized amongst the other wide receiver twos out there.

543
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Speaker 4: I got Gabriel Davis over Jalen Wado like that, because,

544
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Speaker 4: like to your point, it's like, if a team is

545
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Speaker 4: going to support two wide receivers and it's going to

546
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Speaker 4: be the Bills or the Dolphins, A think it's going

547
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Speaker 4: to be the Bill sew How what about you?

548
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm piggybacking on Jalen Waddle at wide

549
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 5: receiver fifteen. That stood out for a while now, and

550
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 5: yeah he's already dealing with an injury plus he's sitting

551
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 5: on the top of a massive tier. There's sixteen wide

552
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 5: receivers until you see ten fantasy points drop off in

553
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 5: my projections. So it just goes to show it's really tight.

554
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 5: You can get guys similar to later and like you said,

555
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 5: you know, he's the number two wide receiver in the

556
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 5: Dolphins offense. I don't know if that can really support two,

557
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 5: you know, borderline wide receiver ones. The Bills and Bucks

558
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 5: are the two teams I would say could do that.

559
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 5: And Wattle, I mean, he was amazing last year, but

560
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 5: he did benefit from DeVante Parker and Will Fuller missing

561
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 5: significant amount of time. Plus the offensive line was terrible,

562
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 5: so they would just dink and dunk to waddle, you know,

563
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 5: the offensive line being a bit better. And Cedric Wilson's

564
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 5: an upgrade I think for the wide receiver three slots,

565
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 5: so he's gonna have more competition for targets this here

566
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 5: and then my other guy. This is not gonna be popular,

567
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 5: but I'm on Ross Saint Brown at what I'm going.

568
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 5: I'm going there because this is one of those things

569
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 5: where I'm just targeting guys like Brandon Cooks, Alan Robinson

570
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 5: or Gabe Davis here, I just think they have more upside.

571
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 5: And with Saint Brown, like obviously he has a massive,

572
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 5: massive floor, right he is by far the number one

573
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 5: target in this offense. He only I saw four in

574
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 5: zone targets on one hundred nineteen targets last year, So

575
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 5: I think he's going to see some touchdown aggression off

576
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 5: of his five last year. So he's going to be

577
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 5: more of the Dj Moore Jacobe Myers types where he's

578
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 5: just you know, he's going to rack up catches every week,

579
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 5: but he could have times where he's you know, has

580
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 5: a touchdown drought, which could be frustrating. So I just

581
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 5: think at wide Receiver twenty one, I wish there was

582
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 5: a little bit more touchdown upside there. Again, I love him,

583
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 5: I'm going to target him in DFS almost every week,

584
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,239
Speaker 5: but when it comes to his overall upside, I think

585
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 5: it's it's more limited than people realize.

586
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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. I mean that was a

587
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 3: little hard.

588
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 5: If he falls outside of the top twenty five, I'm

589
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 5: taking him. Like, let me be clear, I'm not saying, oh, fada,

590
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 5: he sucks. I'm just saying that's the range where you

591
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 5: can get like an Alan Robinson or Gabe Davis, who

592
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 5: I just absolutely love. So that's that's my point.

593
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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, they even work.

594
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 4: I've heard they're still using him as like in the

595
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 4: backfield in camp and like they're they really think he's

596
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: like their star their teams.

597
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Speaker 3: I like it was much more fun when we got

598
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Speaker 3: him in round fourteen. Oh yeah, yeah, we were high

599
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 3: time up.

600
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: It looked like it was going to be like a

601
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: bus for a while there, and then that second half

602
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 4: of the season he really just I remember we.

603
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: Got the golf, was like, oh yeah, he gave the

604
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup comp and then like it was a Monro's

605
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: birthday and he didn't even catch a single pass and

606
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: I was I threw my hands on I was like,

607
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: all right, it's not happening. Then the guy can't even

608
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: catch a pass on his own birthday, and then you know,

609
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: week sixteen comes along, It's like, what the hell is

610
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: going on out here?

611
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, you know, I mean, I mean, I

612
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: get you know, so he has that one year. Some

613
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 4: people might be skeptical, but I like him. Ara Saint Brown,

614
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 4: I think I don't.

615
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 5: Know, I like him, And to be fair, he went

616
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 5: off when both Swift and Hawkinson route. You know, I

617
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 5: know that that points brought up, but it does matter

618
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 5: just when it comes to, you know, creating projection and stuff.

619
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 5: So I think he has a really high flour, but

620
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,880
Speaker 5: his touch on upside is limited.

621
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Speaker 3: That's all for me. It's I mean, you guys already

622
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: said it. It's Jaywon Waddle.

623
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 4: I just think that you know, coming into the year

624
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 4: her you know, new number one receiver, and that's what

625
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: you're kind of banking out Waddle because he's he wasn't

626
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 4: like a high a houp guy either, and you know.

627
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 3: Like he's got to kind of get a ton.

628
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,719
Speaker 4: Of targets to really pay off when you're taking him

629
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 4: as a wide receiver too. So I think that at

630
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: this point there's just guys I'd rather have more going

631
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: after him. So jaymiwidell for me at wide receiver. Any

632
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 4: bus ian I know there you kind of mentioned Burrow

633
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,479
Speaker 4: before any any bus at the quarterback or tight end

634
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: position that you see.

635
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,719
Speaker 1: I mentioned Burrow, And just again literally I'm looking at

636
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: Fantasy pros consensus ADP Burrow pick fifty six, Derek Carr

637
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: picked one on nine, Kirk Cousiny picked one to twelve

638
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: and then Josh Allen, like pick twenty two, I just

639
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: I won't take any quarterback at the end of round two.

640
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: You know, nine year old Shamwell, but you know twenty

641
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: nine year old to Em will not be taken the

642
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: early round quarterback there at tight end, I will say,

643
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: similar to that running back range that we kind of have,

644
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, in the end of round seven through like

645
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: round nine, I do think having Goddard Earth's and Dawson

646
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: Knox there like, that's the last kind of group of

647
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: three tight ends that I really want to get and

648
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Speaker 1: leave my fantasy draft with. You know, we have a

649
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: bunch of round guys, but I'm really confident about ten

650
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: tight ends. So for that reason, Dalton Schultz, you know,

651
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: picked sixty four, he's really going next to a lot

652
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: of Theo's running backs we talked about not liking. I

653
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: just think, you know, when it's Dalton Schultz versus like

654
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray or versus Amon rast Saint Brown, when May

655
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of weeks ago when his ADP was

656
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: stow up a little bit, But I'm taking out of

657
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: the other guy, you know, every single time in that

658
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: equation because for me, I think it's a tier with Schultz, Hawkinson, Goddard, Art'

659
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: and Box. I see them all in the same tier basically.

660
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: And the fact that Schultz is going closer to Waller

661
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: and sometimes even Kittle, I can't get behind that. So

662
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: I understand the available opportunities and the Cowboys offense. But man,

663
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: I've watched every single game daland Schultze's played. This is

664
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Speaker 1: one of the most mid tight ends we've ever been

665
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: drafting as since it's top six ever, so I have

666
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: him ranked as a top six tight end as well.

667
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: I have him rankedin my tight end six, which is

668
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: where he's going. I have him right next to these

669
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: other guys, not multiple rounds ahead of.

670
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Speaker 4: You know, that's a good point on Shultz because I

671
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: was just thinking about this too, And you know everything

672
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: we've been seen out of Cowboys camping here, and Jake

673
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: Ferguson has been playing really well, and he's gonna be

674
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: like a part of the offense from day one, it

675
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: sounds like. And then and Hendershot is a huttel playing well.

676
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 4: So like, remember how Dald Schultz came up right, he

677
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: was the second guy to second.

678
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: Fiddle to who was Blake Jarwin?

679
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you know, Jarwin's in and out of

680
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 4: the lineup. Schultz eventually puts up some good games and

681
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: then he takes over last year. He runs a route like,

682
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: you know, like eighty percent of the time and there's

683
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 4: like no competition in that Cowboys tight end room. But

684
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: now it sounds like there is and now they might

685
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 4: have more of that, like Jarwin Schultz split again with

686
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 4: Ferguson in the mix. So I think that's a good

687
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 4: call on just you know, kind of tempering expectations with

688
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: Shultz because there is a lower floor this year than

689
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 4: I think there was last year, when there was just

690
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 4: you know, once they released Jarwin especially, there was just

691
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Speaker 4: nobody one.

692
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Speaker 1: More than Even if this only helps one listener, like,

693
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Speaker 1: don't draft Noah for the love of god, I keep

694
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: seeing this dude like walk way too high in his ADPs.

695
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: So I'm really in a draft for it happens, But

696
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: my goodness, people don't do it.

697
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like tightened twenty.

698
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 4: One even that same side, Sean, what about you any invest.

699
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: At a quarterback or today?

700
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the Joe Burrow call. Like Joe Burrow

701
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 5: and Dak Prescott, those are quarterbacks that you know you

702
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 5: might as well just punt because those are offenses. I

703
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 5: want to invest in their skill players. Like, don't get

704
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 5: me wrong, I still love, you know, investing in those offenses.

705
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 5: But you know, Dak Prescott's losing his top receiver, Mark Cooper,

706
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 5: although Ceedee Lamb is probably an upgrade at this point

707
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 5: in his career. But the depth chart, you know, it

708
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 5: took a bit of a hit. They lost Cedric Wilson,

709
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 5: they lost James Washington, Michael Gallup might not be able

710
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 5: to play for the first few weeks, and Jalen Tolbert

711
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 5: will probably be the number two receiver and he's had

712
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 5: mixed reviews. So with the Tyron Smith injury, everything's adding

713
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 5: up to Dak you know, maybe regressing a bit this year,

714
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 5: and he doesn't offer as much rushing upside after his

715
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 5: twenty twenty injuries, so there's just not as much to light.

716
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 5: I'm still investing in Ceedee Lamb, might take a swing

717
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 5: on Jalen Tolber, but Dak himself, I think is a

718
00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 5: bit pricey. And then at tight end, I mean, everybody's

719
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 5: ranked about where they should be, but I think Darren

720
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 5: Waller is a you know, a tight end. I've been

721
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 5: kind of passing on because he might not be ready

722
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 5: for Week one. So Raybaund, like you said, he's already

723
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 5: entering the season with a bit of a hamstring injury.

724
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 5: Last year, you know, we thought he was going to

725
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 5: miss a game with like knee and back issues and

726
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 5: missing like five or so. So we have to remember

727
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 5: he was a late bloomer. He's turning thirty years old,

728
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 5: I think it's next week, so he's not a spring

729
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 5: chicken anymore. So these injuries might linger longer longer than

730
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 5: they should. But either way, DeVante Adams being on the

731
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 5: team's gonna eat in his target share, and Waller hasn't

732
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 5: really been an end zone threat for some reason, so

733
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 5: I think that's gonna cap his fantasy upside. So in

734
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: this range, I mean, I'd rather take one of the

735
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 5: top three tight ends or just wait until you know

736
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 5: some value later on. I think taking Darren Waller is

737
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 5: a bit of a reach right now.

738
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Waller is a guy that's kind of

739
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: I've been getting a little bit more concerned about, just

740
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 4: because it's another one of those situations like water, where

741
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 4: they have guys that can take up a ton of

742
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 4: targets in Davante Adams and Hunter Renfrom. I mean, those

743
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: guys get open pretty much every play, so are positive

744
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: is really hurt.

745
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: Though, I mean we had the contract.

746
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, that was yeah, that's that's the other thing though,

747
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 4: but it you know, it's it's and that could be it,

748
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: but you know it's definitely something to monitor.

749
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 3: And I mean, either way, he kind of came up.

750
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: Like the reason we love Waller is because he's just

751
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 4: a target hog, right and like now with you know,

752
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 4: we you know, we saw it in week one. He

753
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 4: was great last year, but like as the season war on,

754
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 4: you know, Renfro was there and he was kind.

755
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: Of eating into walls targets a little bit.

756
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 4: And now now you have Adams there, so there definitely

757
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 4: will be a downgrade you know to his target share.

758
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: Regardless, he definitely no longer has the like I'm going

759
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: to lead my team in targets.

760
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like now I think like that that

761
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: guy probably this year is Kyle Pitts.

762
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: Like you know, if if, if if it win actually

763
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: throws the ball enough, he could be that guy. Kind

764
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: of like the way Andrews kind of turned into that

765
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: guy in a low volume team as well.

766
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: You know, quarterback.

767
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: I mean Aaron Rodgers, I think that he's still QB ten,

768
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: still going off the board, you know, in the top

769
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 4: one hundred. Again, like it's your point, you know, there's

770
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: other guys you can take here that have similar upside

771
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: at this point and just better skill positions. I mean,

772
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 4: are the Packers really going to go out and throw

773
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,479
Speaker 4: the ball over the yard this year? Probably not, you know,

774
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 4: but will the Vikings maybe, will the Bill the Raiders probably?

775
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 4: You know, So there are there are a lot of

776
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 4: other quarter and then you're not even talking about guys

777
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 4: who can just run like justin fields, so you know

778
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: they're and you know even Stafford and Russell Wilson now

779
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 4: and Trey Lance that all these guys are still going

780
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: after Aaron Rodgers. So I can't really get behind that.

781
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 4: And uh yeah, tight end, I agree. I think, you know,

782
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: Schultz is the guy that I'm kind of steering away

783
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: from just because I think you at that point, if

784
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: you've missed out on the top you know, three four guys,

785
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 4: I think you might as well just wait and see

786
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: if like a Goddard or or Knox falls a little waiter.

787
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: I wanted to kind of talk about, you know, since

788
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: we talk about all these busts, but there are a

789
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 4: lot of players that you know, people kind of cite

790
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 4: in the in these type of shows or articles or whatever.

791
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: So you know, I wanted to ask, like, who's one.

792
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: Player that gets commonly thrown around as a potential bus

793
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: that you're actually high on.

794
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: I think Travis Etn is a pretty popular running back.

795
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: People right off to try to start grouping him into

796
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: kind of that frozen pond, as you guys put it

797
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: a group, and I don't think he belongs there. I

798
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: think this, see the guy has a chance to be

799
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: the AFC's basically version of DeAndre Swift. It's explosive pass

800
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: catching and running back on a terrible team where we

801
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: look up and it's like, oh, look the Jaguars lost

802
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: by seventeen again, but Etn had an extra forty receiving

803
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: yards in a garbage time touchdown, Like, so we're good.

804
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: The James Robinson coming back, similar to JK. Dobbins, we

805
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: really have no idea if he's going to be starting

806
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: in week one of what his role is going to be.

807
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: So even giving James Robinson or Snoop Connor, whoever, like

808
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: fifty percent of the team carry share. Etn is still

809
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: someone in a pretty wide open passing game playing alongside

810
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: his former you know, college quarterback that I think has

811
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: a chance to actually, you know, be clearing sixty or

812
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: so targets without too much of a problem right now.

813
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: You know, PFF projecting him for sixty targets, two hundred

814
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: and eleven rush attempts, and that just seems like a

815
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: pretty reasonable floor to me if James Robinson even is

816
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: back to his full form. So we got again this

817
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: whole off season the Deebo Samuel role. Like no, Travis

818
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: DT is a running back. Just because riber Meyer put

819
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: him out wide receiver for a week of practice last

820
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: year doesn't mean the Deebo Samuel role is there. The

821
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey role, though I don't leave the field because

822
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: I can do everything role, maybe that's on, Maybe that's

823
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: there for Travis CTN. So I know the history of

824
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, you know, isn't fantastic here, but you look

825
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: at the kind of guys going alongside times Ctn, Zeke Montgomery,

826
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: even Breese Hall like Jacob's previously, Antonio Gibson, and I

827
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: just think Etn man having that explosive just theoretical. I

828
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: don't even think it's theoretical. We saw it in preseason.

829
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: Really the first first game, second game is a little

830
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: fluky because of those drives. But ETN really has a chance.

831
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, we could look up after week one, he's

832
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: playing eighty percent snaps and all of a sudden, this

833
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: dude's like locked in as an RB one, or he's

834
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: still out there, you know, flirting with five to seven

835
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: targets potentially every single week. So full PPR. I will

836
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: take that.

837
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 3: Song about you.

838
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 5: I'm going with Gabe Davis. You know, he's been somebody

839
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 5: that a lot of people are calling a bus. They

840
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 5: just don't get the I'll send you articles, I'll show

841
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 5: you what I'm talking about.

842
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 3: After I heard Bubble all muted.

843
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 5: But I'm telling you, man and people, they ship on

844
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 5: the hype train because he went off for two hundred

845
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 5: dards and four touchdowns, like we're expecting that every week,

846
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: getting him, you know, the wide receiver twenty five slot.

847
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 5: I just think when it comes to him, it depends

848
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 5: where your priors were on Gay Davis before he went

849
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 5: off against the Chiefs and heading into last season, I

850
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: was super high on Gabe Davis you were too Raybon

851
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 5: where you know, once they signed Emmanuel Sanders, I'm like, okay,

852
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 5: we got to pump the brakes. Probably need one more year.

853
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 5: So we're already high on him, and that's why we

854
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 5: weren't that surprised that he went off. But I think

855
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 5: a lot of people are overlooking him still, and anytime

856
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 5: he's been asked to step up and see more playing time,

857
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 5: he's produced. So that's why I'm still a big believer.

858
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 5: And like I said, Raybon, after this, I will show

859
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 5: you the evidence.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to see it.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well I'm sending it no matter what, man, you're

862
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 5: ready for it.

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Speaker 3: For me, I'll go Kardero Patterson.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I think Cordell Patterson, like people just kind of

865
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: writing them off because down the stretch last year he

866
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: had a couple of bad games. And but if you

867
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Speaker 4: kind of paid attention to this, you know this offseason

868
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Speaker 4: usould they treated them.

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Speaker 3: They gave him the starter treatment. They're kind of keeping

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Speaker 3: him in bubble wrap.

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Speaker 4: He's a guy that they use a ton in the

872
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 4: red zone, and he's gonna have opportunities because now you

873
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 4: have London, you have you have pits there to take

874
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: some of the attention off. So I just think they're

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00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 4: gonna be able to scheme up a ton of ways

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00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 4: to give him high leverage targets. And like he's like,

877
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 4: he's your You talk about Deebo Samuel and going too high,

878
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 4: this is your like you know, arbitrage Deebo Samuel, right,

879
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 4: Like it's like the guy's gonna line up a receiver

880
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 4: some weeks running back some weeks he'll be used extensively

881
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 4: in the red zone. They need to use him because

882
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 4: they don't, you know, they only have so many guys

883
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 4: that they can give touches to.

884
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: And look at this running back depth chart.

885
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 4: You got Tyler Augier, Damian Williams, uh Avery Williams, a

886
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 4: former cornerback.

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00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 3: I think it's still on the roster.

888
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 4: Like there's gonna be a lot of chances for Patterson

889
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 4: just in the backfeld loan. And then he's also their

890
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: second best wide receiver, you know, unless you consider Pits

891
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 4: a wide receiver, which he essentially is. So I really

892
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 4: like getting Patterson, you know, down there at the end

893
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 4: of that frozen pond when everyone already like drafted JK.

894
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 4: Dobbins and Rashad Penny, who like you know, have. I

895
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 4: think Patterson has just as much of a chance at

896
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 4: putting up value as those guys.

897
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: See, pat was legit and upside RB one before he

898
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 1: got hurt last year, and everyone's like, well, he's probably

899
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: not gonna do that again. Okay, He's now the cheapest

900
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: starting running back in all of fantasy. It's similar to

901
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: the mod raw stuff when he wasn't value going closers,

902
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: like to the wide receiver thirty lines like, yeah, he's

903
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 1: probably not going to be the overall wide receiver two again,

904
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: but that's kind of cool. We have a stretch that

905
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: tells us that they're able to produce at that level.

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00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, watch him take a kickback for

907
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: a touchdown like week one, so.

908
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: He's one more, he's one more for the all time record.

909
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: He's going for it. He's going for that one. So

910
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 4: you know it's happening. Yeah, Ian man.

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Speaker 3: This was This is great.

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Speaker 4: I always appreciate you coming on to let everybody know

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Speaker 4: what's your asuming where they can find you at.

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