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Speaker 1: Hi. I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationships and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling raivalry. No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's good.

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Speaker 1: This was one of my favorite episodes that we've done

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Speaker 1: because there was no real connection to them in terms

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Speaker 1: on our episode we've gotten to know beforehand or but

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Speaker 1: this particular one, we don't really know these guys. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about the Property brother Yes, about Property Brothers. You

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Speaker 1: just started talking and no one knows who the hell

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Speaker 1: we're talking about, so except that they downloaded it so

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Speaker 1: they know that we're Property Brother's episode. So there's that.

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Speaker 1: But let me just say I've been such a fan

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Speaker 1: of the Property Brothers. I'm a huge HGTV. That's that

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Speaker 1: is on my television all the time. I watch everything

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Speaker 1: Leave It or listed Property Brothers, Brother Versus Brother, Chip

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Speaker 1: and Joanna. I missed them on HGTV. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm one of those, so this was fun for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is I've never seen an episode of any of

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Speaker 1: this stuff. I know who they are because they're sort

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Speaker 1: of these like tall, handsome men who are in the

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Speaker 1: property business, but I've never seen a show. They though.

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Speaker 1: Were so quick witted and so funny and has had

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Speaker 1: such amazing energy that was so fun. It was really

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Speaker 1: really fun. And then Jonathan had to split afterwards, but

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Speaker 1: Drew and I got to actually take Drew. I'm redoing

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Speaker 1: my house and I got to walk around the house

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Speaker 1: with Drew and he gave me some really good advice

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Speaker 1: and pitched. That was kind of a bit of a

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Speaker 1: dream come true. I pitched myself for their show. Well

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Speaker 1: we both pitched, I know, but I feel like I

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Speaker 1: won it. Well, of course you won because your kate.

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Speaker 1: I mean, why would they choose me? I you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean as far as like ratings go, but uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I looked they might come around. Their story

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Speaker 1: is really interesting. I mean they were sort of relentless

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Speaker 1: in their pursuit entrepreneurship was it was. It's impressive, very

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Speaker 1: very impressive. Literally, they must have done everything I feel

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Speaker 1: like they have. I mean from magician to athlete to

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Speaker 1: acting to I mean they're just two yeah hangers, yeah hangers.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that. Yeah, we'll get to the hangers anyway.

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Speaker 1: It was an absolute pleasure. Yep. And they have a podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Drew and his wife have a podcast, which is exciting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it won't be bigger than ours. So you're gonna tacket

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Speaker 1: boys with them. Oh my god, you just can't help yourself.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to do theirs because we get to

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Speaker 1: talk about home. It's my favorite thing in the world.

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Speaker 1: And then they have a new lifestyle magazine, which I

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Speaker 1: think is going to be huge. They've got such a

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Speaker 1: big were you in it? Yeah? I did it. I

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Speaker 1: did it well. You know, Zoe day Chanel is dating

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Speaker 1: Jonathan and Zoe called me up and I was like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: would you want to do the magazine? I'm such a fan.

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Speaker 1: I was like of course. I was like, do they

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Speaker 1: want to come to the podcast? And they were like,

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Speaker 1: sure you do. The magazine will come to the That's

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Speaker 1: how it all, yeah, down. Yeah, we did a little

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Speaker 1: swap seas I didn't know that. Where was I That's

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Speaker 1: kind of insignificant, but but but we ended up having

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Speaker 1: called Reveal, and it's nice for them because they get

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Speaker 1: to really explore other things that they wouldn't normally get

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Speaker 1: be successful, and the things that they do you can

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Speaker 1: be successful with whatever it is they do. It feels

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Speaker 1: like and they work their asses soft. Yeah, they really do.

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Speaker 1: They're good. All right, Well, they're great kids. They're great kids.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean, they're older than me, but for me,

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Speaker 1: they're great kids. But they're like your age, they're two

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Speaker 1: years younger, so they were great kids. Anyway, these are great,

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Speaker 1: two great kids. You're going to enjoy their story. Okay, ready,

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Speaker 1: here is Jonathan and Drew Scott a ka the property

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Speaker 1: brothers PEB and Jay. Wait, they do have a JA

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Speaker 1: Their brother is JD PB and Jay they must know that. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: here they are enjoyed. You and I have a lot

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Speaker 1: more in common than you think. We both have annoying brothers. Listen,

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Speaker 1: WHOA I hope you're talking about JD. This is very well,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that you're older. One's going to know

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Speaker 1: I do like a like the queen voice. I can

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Speaker 1: talk like a British woman. We might have to do

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Speaker 1: that will help you know who I am. And Jonathan's

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Speaker 1: how we're even going to navigate this. Our mom doesn't

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Speaker 1: even know. Our voice are The only way our mom

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Speaker 1: Jonathan uses bigger words. That's true speaking yes, And I said,

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Speaker 1: and I said, jar, that's what mom said. Drew died

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Speaker 1: a little inside when Mom said that, me sad. He said,

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Speaker 1: who is the oldest. Who's the oldest? Who came out first?

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Speaker 1: I am Drew's four minutes younger. Yeah, look at those

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Grace, So does it even matter? Jonathan

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Speaker 1: came out first. But get this, Mom didn't even know

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Speaker 1: there was a little Drew. You doing your research, That's

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Speaker 1: what I do. So when Jonathan, the doctor said that

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Speaker 1: did ultrasound, and so the doctor was like, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the thirties, Yeah, exactly, back when I was born in

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Speaker 1: the thirties. We just use a good skin routine. But Anyway,

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Speaker 1: skulls are kind of soft, so John's head was kind

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Speaker 1: of squished a bit. And he comes out and everyone's

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Speaker 1: I was brought into this world with the words oh

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Speaker 1: shit from my mom. Oh my really, but then the

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Speaker 1: I literally have a giant cranium. I can't wear hats.

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Speaker 1: It's important. Seventeen. This is a little bigger and freakier.

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Speaker 1: that's enormous. Yeah. I like to think it's because of

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Speaker 1: all the brain that I'm holding on to. Its. Remember

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Speaker 1: it was quished when he came out, and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it just popped and it got really big.

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Speaker 1: Your head size, I think I'm like five and a half.

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Speaker 1: I'm just so you have a little peace head. And

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Speaker 1: why do you know they were going to hire me

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Speaker 1: on Beetlejuice. That was the perfect for casting on Beetlejuice,

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Speaker 1: But now I'm a little smaller. So the funny thing

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Speaker 1: So it's not my faults. My mom made the decision.

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Speaker 1: This is so typical of my life because I grew

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Speaker 1: I'm like, is there a little is my mom trying

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Speaker 1: So I just realized I thought we were moving away

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Speaker 1: think we were both the joke. Our parents amazing amazing

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Speaker 1: property brothers canceled, has taken them off the air. You

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Speaker 1: guys from the research that I've done so here, the

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Speaker 1: that's kind of like though I like, I like to prep.

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Speaker 1: Mom's like a genius. But she thought the game was

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Speaker 1: first of all, where were you guys? Born? Born just

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Speaker 1: Jonathan got into his nerdy magic thing. I got into sports,

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Speaker 1: so I was always like playing every sport out there,

425
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 1: and I was obsessed. Jonathan got into this idea of

426
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: theatrics and being a magician. And he'll deny this, but

427
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: at a young age, here he is, you know, he

428
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 1: was doing magic. We start as clowns, both of us,

429
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 1: and then he went more into magic. He started getting

430
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 1: an ego because he's getting a lot of information. Happenings

431
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: are clown We were clowns. Guy, were crazy. We should

432
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 1: be like ninety years old. How many we're not even

433
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 1: to like a college yet. I still want to talk

434
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 1: about their childhood. We want to know more about this

435
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: hobby farm things, hobby fun guys, guys, anyone listening a

436
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:37,240
Speaker 1: hobby farn No. But I'm interested, honestly in the older

437
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,920
Speaker 1: brother and what that relationship was like, because you guys

438
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: are so connected and now he's the older one sort

439
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: of saying, oh fuck, I guess I'm an only child.

440
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: As kids, he couldn't stand us. He could not stand clearly.

441
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys were like we we like hop

442
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: skip and a jump, Oh yeah, yeah moving. I feel

443
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: like they they should take over podcast and that's be

444
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: the host. Your producers actually already asked that. They said

445
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: that I'd make a good allie. But so what was

446
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: that like though? Growing up? For JD, he's two years older.

447
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: He's he's more of the quiet one. He's sort of contemplative,

448
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: and you know, he's very creative. He was a great

449
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: writer as well when we were younger. He's always creating stories.

450
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: But the thing is, Jonathan and I were high energy,

451
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 1: and our dad at a young age, when we were

452
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: a young age, he got a camcorder and so he

453
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: had that at the house and Jonathan would be taken

454
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 1: every second we could get to create little like skits

455
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 1: and sketches, we put on plays for the family. We

456
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: were always trying to get in front of the camera.

457
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: In fact, we have a video of Jonathan and me

458
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: I think we were like eight years old and they

459
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: were panning across run a pack trip up in the

460
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: mountains with the horses and it was a steak a

461
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: steak ride and they're panning across showing all the guests

462
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: and everybody there there. They see JD, they see Jonathan

463
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: and me and we're talking, trying to think of something

464
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: to say, and we found a bag of chips, and

465
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 1: so we're literally the chips and chips and they're talk

466
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: about the chips and our voice are super high, and

467
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: then pan from us over to JD and Jonathan literally

468
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 1: you just hear his voice. Go get that camera back

469
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: on me. That was us all through our child We

470
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: were like demon Chuck children. I lived that. Yeah, Kate,

471
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: oh yeah. It's a very hard place to be for

472
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: our older brother, in the sense that Drew and I

473
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: have done every little business together, all of these things,

474
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: and we have individually worked with JD on different projects

475
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: over the years, but it would be a hard thing

476
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: to be that other person who's not a part of

477
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: the twin dynamic. Well growing up, I mean, we include

478
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: him with our businesses and our shows, and we have

479
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: him guest star and he's had his own shows and whatnot,

480
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 1: so you know, he keeps more than busy. But as kids, though,

481
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: we were just so high energie, we never thought about

482
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: how this could be tough for him or how annoying

483
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: we were to him. So he just distanced himself when

484
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: we were younger. But when we matured a little bit

485
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: grade ten eleven, we started to be a bit more mature.

486
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: Then we started hanging out in the same groups. And

487
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: one how much older is he three? Two years old?

488
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: Two years well then than you guys are probably really

489
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: tight now, oh yeah, we're definitely. He was just here

490
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 1: two days ago hanging out and actually get married as well.

491
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: His wife is a hair makeup artist and she works

492
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: with us on our shows to such, also traveled all

493
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: in the family. That's fine, but he's also I mean,

494
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 1: he's he's the quieter one. We were always the outgoing ones,

495
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: but he was always very quirky, and he's the like

496
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: the prank king. He was always pranking, even his wedding

497
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: just they got me around on Halloween and it was

498
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: a themed wedding. Everyone had to come, all one hundred

499
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: and seventy people had to come dressed up as a

500
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: movie character and so no cheaping out on costumes. So

501
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: he's he's very quirky and fun and in his own way,

502
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: was the most fun. So you guys then went from

503
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Speaker 1: high school, you left, You ended up at the same college,

504
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: right for a little while, for a little bit. Yeah.

505
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: We actually went to the University of Calgary first, and

506
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: so I was in kinesiology study the body. I wanted

507
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: to be a basketball coach, but in Canada, at the

508
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: high school level, you don't get paid to coach. You

509
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,640
Speaker 1: have to do out of the kindness of your heart.

510
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, how the hell am I supposed to survive?

511
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 1: So I thought, if I was a phys ed teacher,

512
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: it's like I'm being paid to coach. So I did

513
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: that with my minor in math. Jonathan came in for

514
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: business in theater and then he after that first year

515
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: at the university, he didn't continue. He went into other stuff.

516
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 1: He went back to school for construction and design, and

517
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: I continued in school while we were investing in real estate.

518
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: Because we got into real estate as a hobby, another hobby, hobby,

519
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: just out of high school. This sounds like the beginning

520
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: of your life at the hobby farm, sort of instilled

521
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 1: lots of different watch it, you know what, it's funny

522
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: at the hobby farm. But when we were kids. So

523
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: we start our first business at seven years old. And

524
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: a lot of people think when you say business, it's

525
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 1: like lemonade. Sam, We're like, no, Jonathan and I were hardcore.

526
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: We tried to research a little bit what we could

527
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: do to make more money. We were at this arts

528
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: and craft sale and we saw these decorative hangars, their

529
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: coat hangers that were wrapped with nylon with a little rosette.

530
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: And Jonathan are like, we could do that, and so

531
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: we started making them. We sold them to friends and family.

532
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: Then we started to try and market ourselves a little more.

533
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: And this is not with any influence from our parents.

534
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: This was just us. We found a woman who had

535
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: a chain of American paraphernalia stores in Japan. She started

536
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: buying them from us by the thousands. So here we

537
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: are at seven years old, making thousands of dollars making

538
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: these hangers. Wow. We hired on friends to help us

539
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: make them, and our mom would help with the rosette.

540
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: So we were So, you guys just love money, entrepreneurs. Well,

541
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: the thing that drove us is our parents said to

542
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: us when we were young, if we wanted something, they're

543
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 1: not just going to buy it, right, we have to

544
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: earn it. So I think it was the drive to

545
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: make sure to go after something we really wanted, we

546
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: need money to get it. And exactly, I mean, I

547
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: was entrepreneurial myself. The problem with me is I sold

548
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: fake IDs. I grew weed and I would create these

549
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: like Gotcha games. You know that movie Gotcha where you're

550
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: sort of you're paired up with two different people and

551
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: it's now you have to sort of shoot them and

552
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a war of sorts. I created

553
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: this whole game at my school. Everyone played paid twenty

554
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: bucks to enter. I had thousands of dollars in my hand.

555
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: After three weeks, the game just fizzled out and I

556
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: was left with all this money. Is a scam artist.

557
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: So did you guys both graduate? We graduated. Jonathan actually

558
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: graduated early as well, high school. College. I didn't say college.

559
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: No college. I did one year at the University of Calgary,

560
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: and then I went back and did certificate program for

561
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: construction and then separate for design. I did four years

562
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 1: of college, but I never finished my kinesiology degree because

563
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: while I was doing that, we were doing our real estate.

564
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: At the same time. When we were just at the

565
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: tail end of high school, Jonathan I started thinking what

566
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: can we do to make more money. He wanted to

567
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: be a magician. I wanted to be an actor and director,

568
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: and we didn't want to be struggling artists. So we thought,

569
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, real estate is a great way to make money.

570
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: The market was booming where our parents' ranch was. We

571
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: were still in Vancouver, but our parents ranch in Calvary.

572
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: Calvary was the hottest market in all of Canada. So

573
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: we thought, why don't we go to the University of Calgary.

574
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: We'll go to school, so we're still making our parents

575
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: happy getting education, but at the same time, let's start

576
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: investing in this real estate thing. And at the time,

577
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: you could get into real estate without qualifying for mortgage.

578
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: I could assume your mortgage, and so Jonathan and I

579
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: found somebody was willing to let us assume their mortgage

580
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: and do a top up. So basically out of pocket,

581
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: were two hundred and fifty dollars on a two hundred

582
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: thousand dollars house. That's our first one. We got into,

583
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: started selling, started flipping, and then I ended up not

584
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: finishing my degree. Because we love a lot of people company.

585
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: They have sort of a tunnel vision view of how

586
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: you buy real estate. So like we actually read every

587
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: book we could, bought these infommercials and everything, and we realized, yeah,

588
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: you don't have to have like a twenty five percent

589
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: down payment, and at that time there were all kinds

590
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: of programs that could get into it. So that was

591
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: our very first house eighteen years old. Well you also

592
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: had I mean just for people out there who think

593
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: that this is something to do, but you also had

594
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: vision for where you were probably buying and what you

595
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 1: were going to be doing with it. Jonathan and I

596
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: soaked up every bit of information we even we you know,

597
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: late night infomercials were like make a Million in real Estate. Yeah,

598
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: we ordered all of those, and our whole plan was

599
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: we would order them, you had like ninety days to

600
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: return and we would just photocopy all of the pages

601
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: and then return it and not have to pay for it.

602
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: But anyway, yeah, so we were always go get we

603
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: would research and research, and we would go all out.

604
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: We never I think that's some of our parents instilled

605
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: in us at a young age. They really made us

606
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: feel if if we were passionate about something, they would

607
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: support us through and through. But we had to give

608
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: it a one hundred and ten percent. We couldn't just

609
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: go part way into it, and so we really did.

610
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: And having somebody that you can trust as your sidekick

611
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: and the two of you can push it made it

612
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: a lot easier. I think a lot of friends of

613
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: ours that have, you know, they've just been a only child,

614
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: or they're trying to tackle something on their own. It's

615
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: harder when you don't have that support net. So when

616
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: you're working together, especially when you're younger. I'm sure you

617
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: guys have a different kind of groove now, but when

618
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: you were younger, did you fight? Were there ever moments

619
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: where you just not? Really? So we've had a no

620
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: bullshit policy our entire working relationship. If there's something that's

621
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: bugging us, get it out now while it's small, because

622
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: inevitably those things will turn into something bigger than they

623
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: need to be. And so when people say that family

624
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: can't work together, you know we haven't had that problem

625
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: because we hash that step out. We also recognize each

626
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: other's strengths and weaknesses, and we naturally divide and conquer

627
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 1: whatever task is. Let me tell you the other side

628
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: of the truth, though. So we have had I think

629
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: three fights in our sin childhood, mainly as kids or teenagers.

630
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: But the difference is Jonathan never had a problem punching

631
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: me or hitting me. I never hit him. I would

632
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: not do it. So he would come along and he

633
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: would just like droll me one in the side if

634
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: he was mad or something like that. And so the

635
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: final one that we had it was actually I think

636
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: when we're about eighteen or nineteen. Since then we've already

637
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: nobs policy has worked. But he was just getting under

638
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: my skin and he was saying things to annoy me,

639
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: and he wasn't answering a question that I had. And

640
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: I was driving and he was in the passenger seat,

641
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: and just to stick it to me, we pull into

642
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: the back alley and I'm about to pull into the garage.

643
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: He leans over like, how you're the innocent angel? I mean,

644
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: is an angel? I did nothing wrong? I was as praises. Anyway,

645
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: he reaches over and he takes the key out of

646
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: the ignition, so I'm still moving in the car. I

647
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: don't actually even know how that happened, because he's not

648
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: supposed to. He pulled the key out of the ignition,

649
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: he threw the keys an old shit and he threw

650
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: the keys down the alleyway and then he's like, deal

651
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: with that. And then he gets out, and so I

652
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: ran after him so mad, and he's at the back

653
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: door of the house and he's just opening the screen

654
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: door and he's like, don't you dare And he ran

655
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: over like he was gonna clock me in the face

656
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: and like, don't you I had never hit him before,

657
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: and I think he thought this was the time. And

658
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: he opens the screen door and he like clenched his

659
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: teeth and he's like, dr he's ready for like a hit,

660
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: and he clenched his t's so hard he broke his

661
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: tooth nfl out and so I just looked at that.

662
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, you did that to yourself, And I walked

663
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: inside with a smile, totally beat the shit out of myself.

664
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: That's fun. That's amazing. So that was it. Yeah, for that,

665
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: Like never arguments or debates on things, but what we

666
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: have come to realize, which I don't know how you

667
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: guys deal through conflict like that. But at the end

668
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: of the day, we know we're both good people. We

669
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: love each other, we know whatever we run multiple businesses together,

670
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: we know we were both looking for the best thing

671
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: to happen for our business and growth. So I can't

672
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: shut down his ideas. He's got good ideas. Jonathan always

673
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 1: has great ideas. It's just that sometimes together we can

674
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: come up with a better Right now, let me ask

675
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: you a question. Do you think stay in your lanes

676
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: though when you're doing this stuff, like do you That's

677
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: one that's a big thing that a lot of people

678
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: most say to us. But the thing is, people from

679
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: our shows, people think our lanes are Jonathan is the

680
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: construction guy. I am the suit wheeling and dealing guy.

681
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: But in reality, Jonathan was a broker for our real

682
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 1: estate company, and we both did the construction right from

683
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: the I'm not a licensed contractor. He went to school

684
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: for that, but we both did the construction design right

685
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: from the mid What you're actually peeling back is this

686
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: is the subject of the most recent fight we've ever had,

687
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: and so this is it. Like if you go back

688
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: like a year or so something like that. Drew hates it,

689
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: hates it when people walk up and like it's the

690
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: brother that doesn't do nothing. Ye, But so Jonathan I

691
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: hate that too. Oh it's it's it's annoying. But I

692
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: mean again, we were delineating our roles like that. We

693
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: didn't want it to be a twin gimmick for property brothers,

694
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: as much as we each had our own role, but

695
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: they also didn't want us both being the construction person,

696
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: both being the real estate person. Originally, actually I don't

697
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: think we've ever told anybody this in interviews, but Jonathan

698
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: was cast as the real estate guy. Originally I was

699
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: cast as the construction guy for the show Wow and

700
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: so in the beginning because they thought I looked more

701
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: brawny at the time, and he had looked like the

702
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: suit guy. And I was a broker for our company,

703
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: but I also was the license contract and so when

704
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: they found out he wasn't licensed, like, oh, this could

705
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: go badly, which yeah, like so we went into our

706
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: natural roles of what our cops. But but as we

707
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: would go forward, I always had to find Jonathan is

708
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: like he would have his little ego thing where we

709
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: do lectures from time to time. So we'll be in

710
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: front of a crowd of you know, ten twenty thousand

711
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: people just talking about home, and Jonathan walk out and

712
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: be like, let me just double check out there between

713
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: Drew and me, who likes Drew the most? And then

714
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: they'd be like, one, dude's like you, Drew, And then

715
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: it was like who likes me? And the whole audience

716
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: of women are like, have my baby and anyway, Well,

717
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: I can definitely say I've never made that obnoxious face

718
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: that he made when he was doing or that voice. Yeah,

719
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's my voice. Well, I think

720
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 1: that this is like, I think that's a very sibling

721
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: type of Do you guys ever get sick of being twins? No? No, no,

722
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean like just you know, well it's a good

723
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: one because how much do they have do you guys

724
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: have to play into that dynamic that is real that, Yeah,

725
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: your identity is wrapped up in the fact that you

726
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: are identical twins. It is interesting that you'll get so

727
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: you'll get people who will want to do some gimmicky

728
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: things when and most of the TV shows and what

729
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 1: people know us for, they know proper ones. They know

730
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: us together, but then when there's something that takes one

731
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: of us in our own direction, Drew and his wife's podcast,

732
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: for example, like that's something that they're doing. And so

733
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: the funny thing is the first reaction is where's Jonathan?

734
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: Everyone always at or if someone sees me, you know,

735
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: I was all over the country filming a documentary on

736
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: renewable energy and the secret war that's been waged against

737
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: solar companies, and I was in all over the country.

738
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: The first thing everyone always said to me is like

739
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: they'd like look past me, like where's your brother? Where's Drew?

740
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: And a funny thing with that, we're not attacked, right, Yeah,

741
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: we have our own passion, like the like the dog feature, Well,

742
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: we're both producing that. It's just he was the on

743
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: screen and for the podcast, we're producing this, but it's

744
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: Linda and me, and so everyone thinks that we're connected

745
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: to the hip. And the thing I will say that's

746
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: funny is like sometimes at the airport is where a

747
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: lot of people will kind of stop us, and the

748
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: first thing everyone says is where's your brother. I'm like,

749
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: I'm my own person, but he's just ten feet behind me.

750
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: He's right there, he'll be right here. You guys purposely

751
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: try to look different haircut we do. Yeah, So, growing

752
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: up as kids, our parents stress us in the same

753
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: clothes but different colors. So Jonathan only got blue and

754
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: I literally got every other color. I am the more

755
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: sails anyway, but no, so I had yellow, brown, orange, pink, red, whatever.

756
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: It was like, they put me in all different colors.

757
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: And then as adults so too, like property brothers. Right

758
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: when we first got cast for the show, we had

759
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: the same hairs a little bit longer, and we purposely

760
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: I cut my hair because I always would change my hair.

761
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: I didn't want it to be just a twin gimmick.

762
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: I think the show wouldn't have lasted this ten years

763
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: if it was more twin gimmicky. And to sort of

764
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: give us a different look too, you like, like Drew's

765
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: got his dark beard, My beard is zoey, and so

766
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: we have our different right. No, but the whole thing again,

767
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: we wanted we were our own people. We want to

768
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: have our own looks. And the one thing, like everybody

769
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: thinks that Jonathan like he sleeps in plaid, Like everyone

770
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: thinks his only wardrobe is plaid. Oh mind, you were

771
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: in plaid today, but anyway, but he always gets defense Valley.

772
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: He's like, I have more plaid is only ten acent

773
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: of my wardrobe solid? So many different voices, that's another voice.

774
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: How many voices all of a sudden, like a British

775
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: royalty when I'm a dick and I have a British accent.

776
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: So okay, So you guys, you flip your first house,

777
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: you then realize you have a knack for it. I'm

778
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: assuming did you sell it right away? We have lived

779
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: for a year. Yeah. Well, actually the very very first

780
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: house we did, we didn't even own it. It was

781
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: just as we're getting going to college. A friend of

782
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: ours was in this like rental long term rental place

783
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: and they were kind of squatting on a lease that

784
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: they the least had never been updated for like ten years,

785
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: so like a hundred students have come and gone over

786
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: the years, renting room to room. So they're like, do

787
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: you want to take it over? It was right across

788
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: from from the University of Calgary. It had like what

789
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: five rooms in it, and five rooms and the price

790
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: was something ridiculously low, like sixteen hundred dollars or lew No,

791
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: it was nine hundred bucks is what they were for

792
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: which it should have been way more. And so we

793
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: went in there. We took out like eighteen truckloads of garbage,

794
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: like just students crap that they'd left over the years.

795
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: We cleaned the whole place out. We put two more

796
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: bedrooms in the basement. We lived there rent free for

797
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: almost like the first full semester and a half, and

798
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: then the money we made off of that, we actually

799
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: used that for our down payment. I mean, we only

800
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: need two hunred and fifty bucks. But on the new house,

801
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: that house we held for a year, we did a

802
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: very basic renovation to it, and then we turned around

803
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: and sold it a year later for a fifty thousand

804
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: dollars profit. And that's where we started to realize that's

805
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: just see do something in this and the way we

806
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: used to assume somebody's mortgage and take it over without qualifying,

807
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: you can't do that anymore. That was a different time

808
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: back then, but it helped us get into we got

809
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: to the point where we were basically flipping house every

810
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: i'd say two to three months, and then we got

811
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: into doing two at a time and three, and then

812
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: we got into some more hold properties and it was

813
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: just a slowgo so over ten years, I mean our

814
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: original passions. The reason for doing it was for me

815
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: to become an actor and director and Jonathan to do

816
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: his magic. But then ten years went by and the

817
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: only thing I had done was I was like a

818
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: basketball player in a Toyota commercial. That was the only

819
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: sounded like I miss what my passion was. So did

820
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: you put like a pitch together and then go to

821
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: HG TV or we had So Drew was this when

822
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about strengths and weaknesses. So one of Drew's

823
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: strengths is like, if we walk into a room, Drew

824
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: will go and introduce himself to every single table and

825
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: every single person and know who they are and figure

826
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: out this architecture of great person to keep in cond

827
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: oft called charisma. I ride into the room on my

828
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: little red tricycle and my shorty short shorts, and I

829
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: tell everybody who I am. I'm the guy that sits

830
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: in the corner and if someone comes to me. I

831
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: love conversation, I love learning about people, but I would

832
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: rather be I'm not that guy. And so Drew had

833
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: stayed in touch with all these people in TV and

834
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: film business because we were actors as kids too. We

835
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: had done a bunch of commercials and small movies of

836
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: the week and stuff like that. You may have heard

837
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: of it. I was the flint flong guy in the

838
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: football commercial in Canada Super Bowl. You may have heard

839
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: break I'm holding back, I'm holding back. But we It

840
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: was through that that Drew got approached by a producer

841
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: who said, hey, no, actually no, Drew got cast in

842
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: a show I had. Originally, I decided I miss going.

843
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: I want to go after my passion and we had,

844
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: we had grown the successful real estate company. So I

845
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: went back to Vancouver, which was the bustling film industry

846
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: and TV industry in Canada, and I thought, I want

847
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: to start auditioning again. I started getting put out though

848
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: as a host, as a realistic expert instead of as

849
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: an actor, and at first time like this lame, I

850
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: want to be an action star. I know Karate and

851
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: I should be in every Steven Sigall movie. And then

852
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: I still believe that for you, I want that, I do.

853
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: I will be his, but no other action star, only

854
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: Stevenson anyway. But then John I started talking about we're

855
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: like well as a host, We're good on our feet,

856
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: we had done comedy when we were younger. We did

857
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: sketch him prof stand up and we're like, okay, we're

858
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: good on our feet. Maybe as a host this could work.

859
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: So then at that point I saw I had a

860
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: production company approach me for this show that was called

861
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: He calls me up and he's like, dude, I landed

862
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: a show. I'm like, oh my gosh. And so I

863
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: was living in Calgary at the time. He was in

864
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: Vancouver and he's like, yeah, this is great. I landed

865
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: the show. Whose show? I'm like, oh, that's amazing. What's

866
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: the show. He's like, it's called Realtor Idol. It's like

867
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: it's like American Idol for realtors and there's a pause

868
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: on the phone. And I was like, that's the dumbest

869
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: thing I've ever heard of. It was a terrible idea,

870
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: but it got my foot in the door. And then

871
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: after the foot was in the door, I got another

872
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: project pitched to me, something else, and Jonathan I started saying,

873
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: why are we waiting for these projects to come to us,

874
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: Why don't we try pitching somebody. And at the time

875
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: we just thought, what, we're going to be good to

876
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: host some show. So we pitched anything we were good at.

877
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: So we actually pitched a magic show for Jonathan, something

878
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: sport related for me. We pitched an environmental show. Who

879
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: are you pitching these? Well? So this is the funny

880
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: thing too, is at the time we didn't know how

881
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: it worked. So you know, usually a production company that

882
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: has cloud, they'll talk to their network partners the same

883
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: way we do now with our production company. By the time,

884
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: we didn't have anything to lose and we didn't understand

885
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: the process. So we literally went into the Yellow Pages.

886
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: We looked up all the networks, the big networks in Canada,

887
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: and we just went and we found the head people

888
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: of each of the networks and we just went to

889
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: them and said, we want to pitch you a show.

890
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: You guys are so but it was total hustlers were

891
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: except for it was marijuana and take. It was then

892
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: an overachiever for those things I did well, but I

893
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: I did very well in those business. First of all,

894
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: all your pot plants died, they did so to the network.

895
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: We actually end up Rogers, one of the big networks.

896
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: The We were actually fortunate the head guy, the VP

897
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: of their new development, he actually sat down with us.

898
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: He let us pitch him and everything like that. He said,

899
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: he likes sauce and our energy. He's like, this is

900
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: not the process, this isn't how you do it. We

901
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: would never give you money to produce a show because

902
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: you have no track record. So he said that what

903
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: you should do is find a production company that we

904
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: know that work, that will work with you, and we did,

905
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: and then that's how eventually we were able to pitch

906
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: through them. Then we pitched the idea of Jonathan and

907
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: me doing what we do with clients already property brothers,

908
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: and then it was a slow takeoff from actually it

909
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: was a fast takeoff. Within three months we became the

910
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: top show on the Canadian network and then when we

911
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: went to the US again, within a matter of months

912
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: we were the top show on AHGTV. So HGTV basically

913
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: took the idea from Well. The interesting thing is AGTV

914
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: in the US originally turned it down. They said they

915
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: didn't get it two brothers. They were looking for husbands

916
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: and wife combos or male female combos, and even HGTV

917
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: Canada turned it down and they said they don't have

918
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: any room for it. It was this obscure network in

919
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: Canada called the women's network w network, and they're like,

920
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, two young guys and tight jeans doing slow

921
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: motion renovations. Hell, yeah, we'll take that. And so we

922
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: did it. And then when we went to number one

923
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: on that network, within three months, we went back to

924
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: HGTV US and said, hey, do you want to try it?

925
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: You know now that you see these ratings, and so

926
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: they had us edit it down to a half hour

927
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: version for the first season to test it. Same thing happened.

928
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Within three months, we were the number one show in

929
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: the note Now how many years has it been, Now

930
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: ten years? It was actually two thousand and eight was

931
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: the first year I got a call about potentially doing

932
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: Property Brothers. And so at the time I was a

933
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: real estate agent as well, so I was working with clients.

934
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: The big movie chain in Canada is called Cineplex and

935
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: in Canada and then the production company that approached me

936
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: for Property Brothers is called Cineflex, and so I used

937
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: to get bulk passes. I get a thousand passes at

938
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: a time for the Cineplex movies and I would give

939
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: them to clients as a gift. And so for the

940
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: first ten minutes of Cineflex calling me to pitch me

941
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: to do this show. I was so confused because I

942
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: thought it was the lady that was my contact for

943
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: movie tickets, and I was kind of like, I don't

944
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: understand what we're talking about. I just want my movie

945
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: passes for my clients. And she's like, no, no, we

946
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: want you to host a TV show. I'm like, oh, so, anyway,

947
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: that's where in two thousand and eight we started shooting.

948
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 1: Two thousand and nine, we did a sizzle at first,

949
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: and we did a pilot episode and then they actually

950
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: we didn't hear from them actually for a couple of months,

951
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: and we thought that they dropped the idea. And then

952
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: so Jonathan was back in Calgary, I was back in Vancouver,

953
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: and then randomly I just got a call and they said, hey,

954
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: the network has decided to pick up a full first

955
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: season of your show. Can you be moving to Toronto

956
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: in a week? It picked up a whole site. Yeah,

957
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: they picked up the whole How many episodes during a

958
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: season originally started out originally we were just doing thirteen

959
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: episodes a season, and then we because we were going

960
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: away then in block shooting in different cities, We're like, well,

961
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: we've got lots more time. Why don't we make this

962
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: more efficient? And so we started doing twenty twenty six

963
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: episodes for Property Brothers. But then we wanted to add

964
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: another show, buying and selling. So Property Brothers was helping

965
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: people to buy and renovated house buying and selling. These

966
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: people are trying to sell their house. So to make

967
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: good use of our time because we're going city to city.

968
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: So we ended up fifty two episodes a year between

969
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: the two shows we were doing. The next closest talent

970
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: on the network was thirteen episodes. Wow, nobody was able

971
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: to do. And then our production company ended up taking

972
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: over this past year. We actually purchased the IP for

973
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: Property Brothers, so we now own Property Brothers and so

974
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 1: who came up with the name. It was a group

975
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: thing between the network and whatnot they sent. We sent

976
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: a list of ideas to them directually. Still has the

977
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: original list, the piece of paper that we wrote it on.

978
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: But I remember in the beginning Drew So we were

979
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: talking about propery Bison and I remember Drew was like, Nah,

980
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: I think we can do better. And so we came

981
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: up with this whole list, mending fences, bungalow Brothers, all

982
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: this stupid here we got here says you're getting all

983
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: the so the alternatively some good ones. So it was

984
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: a relative realty on the job with Jonathan and Drew

985
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: double vision. Those are those hold on visions like a

986
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: porno Yeah, bros, bros before Reno who came up with

987
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: the bros Before I don't know. Two men in a hammer,

988
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. So there's so many dumb ones. And

989
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: then we realized and a hammer. Oh yeah, another born

990
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: mirror image the yeah, the inspiration company, the Brothers Images. Wait,

991
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 1: by the way, that is a statistic for twins, you

992
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: know the statistic. Yeah, the mirror image identical twins have

993
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: reverse asymmetrical features. And also like that's because we're we

994
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: are apparently mirror twins because I'm a lefty, he's a righty.

995
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: Oh so you have that too, because twenty percent have

996
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: have different Yeah, and which is which is interesting? I

997
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: mean there's I'm a lefty and Johnson's a c Yes,

998
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: that's why we're the more MILESSI oh, okay. All three

999
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,760
Speaker 1: of us are right right hand and then all sports

1000
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: left handed, and I'm actually the opposite. I have left

1001
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: and I throw left, but I that right and I

1002
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: golf right and I'm the same. I'm am age extra,

1003
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: so I do everything both hands, but I predominantly do

1004
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: things like right and everything with my right hand. I

1005
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: play guitar right handed. But the only reason I do

1006
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: that everything else I do left handed, but that's because

1007
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: my dad refused to teach me guitar left handed, is

1008
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: that you will learn what I know, and so I

1009
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: just learned right handed. But anyway, Yeah, so we are

1010
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: mirror twins and the name of the show, I'm glad

1011
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: we with Propertyaris And in the end, Johnson I had

1012
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: talk were like, wait, if we make it Property Brothers,

1013
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: the chance of them replacing us after season one, if

1014
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: we really suck, is really low. So it's gonna be

1015
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: hard to find other brothers that do what we do.

1016
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: So that's why we went with that name. And then

1017
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: it ended up being we airn over one hundred and

1018
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: sixty countries is just amazing. So ten years and now

1019
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: that I mean fifty, so I mean what hundreds and

1020
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: hundred thousand, how many houses? Four hundred as of within

1021
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: a couple months, we'll hit our four hundredth episode four hundred,

1022
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: which we just discovered we were looking at all the stats.

1023
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: That means that we have hosted more hours of original content,

1024
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: more episodes than any other person in history in this

1025
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: space in this says yeah, but it's something we love.

1026
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: That's four hundred families, but also people watching the millions

1027
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: of people globally that all inspired of the four hundred houses.

1028
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: Have you ever done a house and been like that

1029
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: was terrible? This is okay? How dare you we really fucked? No,

1030
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: there's one episode we didn't air. Out of all the episodes,

1031
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: there's only one that has never aired, and it was

1032
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: a guy. He was a firefighter. So then the network

1033
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: does the approvals for who'll be on the show and

1034
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, firefighter, you'll get his firefighter buddy's over

1035
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 1: and it'll be good TV, and it'd be good program. Anyway,

1036
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: he wanted to buy this house. It was in a

1037
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: neighborhood in Toronto where it was an old landfill and

1038
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: all the houses built on top of it. They didn't

1039
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: prep the ground properly and all the houses were sinking,

1040
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: so when you walk into the house from the front

1041
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: where you are to the back, it actually dipped like

1042
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: a foot. It was crazy, and he just wanted to

1043
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: level out the floors instead of properly fixed in the house,

1044
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: and we said, we can't do that. We have to

1045
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: do everything properly. We would never do a half assed job.

1046
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: And anyway, the guy was advant he was gonna buy

1047
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: the house. We ditched him and he still got it.

1048
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: We started the app. So we filmed for two days

1049
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: with a guy and did the turn and everything, and

1050
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: then I said, I don't them, Like, I'm not gonna

1051
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: take on a project where we're illegally like not getting permisary,

1052
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: and so we didn't. That's the only one that hasn't aired.

1053
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: I've We've never, you know, had a project where I

1054
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: didn't like, like we screwed that up or didn't like it. Sometimes,

1055
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: like there have been things that I've done, Like I

1056
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: remember one project. I had this idea in my mind

1057
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: for this really cool vintage medallion feature on the ceiling.

1058
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,359
Speaker 1: It was like a it was an old row home

1059
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty years old and tall ceilings, so

1060
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: I want to do this cool medallion thing. And I

1061
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: put it in and I looked up when it was done.

1062
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: I was like, that's the ugliest fucking thing I've ever

1063
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 1: seen ever. It looked like an actually, so it was

1064
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: HGTV pay for renovation, And that's actually a great question.

1065
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: And then the follow up question is when I watch

1066
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: some of these shows, it's like, is it done with

1067
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: with quality material or is it just shit to cut caughts.

1068
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: And so that's a great thing. What I love HGTV.

1069
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: They stay on top of production. So is there are

1070
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: other shows out there that are home renovation shows on

1071
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: different networks and stuff, And a lot of times, you know,

1072
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: it could look pretty good on TV, but at the

1073
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's not a great job, like

1074
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: or things aren't finished properly. It's it's just not what

1075
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: you would ever want to have in your house. We

1076
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: on our shows, whatever you see it is highest quality.

1077
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's a National Building Code, then there's

1078
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: the Row code. We call it like because the level

1079
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: of what we want to leave everybody with is it's

1080
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: important to give them the best of the best. Because

1081
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: the thing too is they're all our you know, calling

1082
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: card out there. If we do a terrible job and

1083
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: somebody says bad things about us, it doesn't look good

1084
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: on us as well. And on top of that, people ask,

1085
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: like the furniture do you stage the house and looks beautiful,

1086
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: and then as soon as you're done rolling, you're like,

1087
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: back up the truck, let's take it all off. No,

1088
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: with our shows, all of the furniture and everything's included

1089
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 1: in the budget too. It's important when we renovate a house,

1090
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: we renovate it the way we want to renovate our

1091
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: own place. And I have gone in like I remember,

1092
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: I went into a house that it turns out, had

1093
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: been on another show years and years and years ago,

1094
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: and I could not believe the crapp equality of the

1095
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: work that had been done on this place. And so yeah,

1096
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: like that, that was one thing we said was very

1097
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: important to us take the TV show out of it.

1098
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: We're actually trying to help these people and improve their lives.

1099
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: And the only way you can do that is if

1100
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: you do it right. Eve follow up, you will follow up.

1101
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,959
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Actually, last year we did a fallow because

1102
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 1: we shot in Atlanta, and so we did a fallout

1103
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: because there's one or two things that happened. We renovate

1104
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: the house, and then we come back five years later

1105
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: and nothing has changed. Literally every like the core piece

1106
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: where we put it is in the exact same place.

1107
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: Nothing has changed. Or the kids ruined it. Five months later.

1108
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: So we went back to this family and nothing had

1109
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: changed in their house. The only thing that changed they

1110
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: got married. Since we were with we did the show

1111
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: with them, and so one of our art pieces was

1112
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: swapped out for a wedding photo. But I mean, at

1113
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: the end of the day, renovations are very stressful. Buying

1114
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: it else is very stressful. Anyone going through renovation knows

1115
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: it's stressful in a relationship. I see the look in

1116
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: your eyes, so you've dealt with it. But the last

1117
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: thing we would ever want to do is try to

1118
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: help a family through this process and then leave them

1119
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: high and dry and something. In the end. We want

1120
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: them to love their home the way that we love

1121
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: our own homes. I love I actually love the process.

1122
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: I always say, if I wasn't doing what I like,

1123
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: at some point, it would be fun to to flip

1124
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 1: houses because I like design Ee from what I've seen,

1125
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: and also we featured you in Reveal. You have at

1126
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: least it looks to me like a great I think

1127
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: I do. I like it because I like living in

1128
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: my houses or the houses that I've done. You know,

1129
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: the craftsmanship and the work that people put into making

1130
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: homes to me is like, I mean that's the stuff

1131
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: that I love. Well, yeah, you don't need to have

1132
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: a stark modern home to you know, to get some

1133
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: of that modern aesthetic or functionality. You can still have

1134
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: those character elements throughout the home, and different spaces can

1135
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: have different vibes. That's why we love. We love our

1136
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: home and what we did because we made sure we

1137
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: cherished all the old We have the original front door

1138
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: we refurbished, and part of the original banister and fireplace.

1139
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: But then we moved the kitchen over. Before they had

1140
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: the kitchen tucked away because it was a different style

1141
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: of living. Now we have an open flow from the

1142
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: kitchen through the dining to the living room. So were

1143
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: your parents really design like was there home important to them?

1144
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: The way it felt and the things that were in it?

1145
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,720
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean home has always been very important

1146
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: for us. But from a design standpoint, my dad absolutely not.

1147
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: My mom definitely had a little bit more of like

1148
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: a traditional designer flare that she would put into it.

1149
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: But home was very important for us, having those memories

1150
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: at the holidays, making sure that we felt like we

1151
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: were safe and that, you know, if there was something creativitally,

1152
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: creatively that one of us wanted to follow. My parents

1153
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: would make sure that they built out a space for

1154
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: us to do that in so, like you know, for

1155
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: my magic, I had a magic space that I could

1156
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: or Dad would let us use his office as our

1157
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: fort when we were kids, like we would build We'd

1158
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,800
Speaker 1: take all the old boxes from the old appliances and stuff,

1159
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: and we would build out a whole town down there.

1160
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: And so they gave us areas to let our creativity

1161
00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: grow the most firm. Our parents home was where we

1162
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: all were. It didn't matter the physical structure as much.

1163
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: It was where we were as a family and spending

1164
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 1: time together. And so we had moved a few times,

1165
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: but they really gave us that sense of calm whenever

1166
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: we were at home. Yeah, I feel that way because

1167
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: we travel so much. But I think, and you know,

1168
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: Oliver's wife Aaron, does that as well, because she literally,

1169
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we don't go anywhere without her bringing like

1170
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: half of the house and like the snacks. I can

1171
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: so when we're filming on the road, I can pack up,

1172
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: no joke, my entire apartment or wherever we are on

1173
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: the road, I can pack my whole place up less

1174
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: than four hours done. Ru and Linda have like nine

1175
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 1: hundred suitcases and a sherpa and you have to appreciate

1176
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 1: this though, when you film on the road that we

1177
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: literally majority of the time we're on the road working.

1178
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: You know, our family and friends stay at our houses

1179
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: at home more than we do. So we have our

1180
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: house on the road because we're always there, and then

1181
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: we have our house stuff at home, so we try

1182
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: to make ourselves comfortable on the road. When did you

1183
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: guys discover that you were actually twins? Like, was there

1184
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: a moment where you went, oh, wait, this is not

1185
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: like three years I thought it was just a mirror

1186
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: that I was looking at until I turned forty one.

1187
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: And then I mean, for the first six months of

1188
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: Drew's life, he was growing in my shoulder and then

1189
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: eventually they caught him out and he grew. I don't

1190
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: remember exactly though, like when we're toddlers, I think ever

1191
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: a moment where okay, is there ever a moment where

1192
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: you realize, like, were you always aware that you were

1193
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: ident like that it was different? Yeah, as far as

1194
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: I can remember, back to when I was a kid,

1195
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: because you know, you can't remember everything as a kid.

1196
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: I remember having a twin, and maybe when we were

1197
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: toddlers we just thought we were siblings or brothers. But

1198
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: I do remember thinking that there's a guy that looks

1199
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: exactly like me that is always around. Even today, It's

1200
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: actually kind of funny because you don't think about it.

1201
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: You don't think about, oh, I have a guy who

1202
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: shares my face. You don't think about it. I just

1203
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: think about the fact that I have siblings, same as

1204
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: my older brother, I have a sibling, and then all

1205
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, even today, you'll clue in. You'll be like,

1206
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: that is a little weird. It's a little strange. Well,

1207
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: and actually people think, you know, the triplets make us

1208
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: not as cool anymore. But still people will look at

1209
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,479
Speaker 1: us like where the the craziest thing they've ever seen.

1210
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: And that's kind of funny to me because I twins

1211
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: are pretty common now. So the new magazine, how did

1212
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: this venture start? Well, it's it's all our fans. It

1213
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 1: comes from the fans, and they've said, you know, they

1214
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: love what we do with our shows and we're inspiring

1215
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: them in their homes. But they were they're always asking

1216
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: for more ways that we can sort of inspire them.

1217
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,720
Speaker 1: Or uplift them or share stories with them, and we thought,

1218
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's our brand. Isn't just a home brand anymore.

1219
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: It's a lifestyle brand. And there are more aspects to

1220
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: our lives and stories that we want to share and

1221
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 1: so reveal. You know, our slogan is it all starts

1222
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: at home, but home is a springboard for life. So

1223
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: whether it's food, traveled, family, love, we wanted to share more.

1224
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: And there's so many amazing people like yourself. In our

1225
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: first issue you're in there at Home feature at Home

1226
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: with my favorite Room, Yes, And so I mean that's

1227
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: exciting for us to share other inspiring stories out there.

1228
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 1: And there's cool stuff too. You know, we've got, you know,

1229
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: the very first issue, we've got our parents, but every

1230
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: issue will have some celebrities parents that we'll talk about

1231
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: an aspect of girling up or celebrities that our parents. Ye,

1232
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: celebrities are our parents. We've also got like Fails. Zoe

1233
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: is doing the failure cult where they went out to

1234
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: do some something, whether it was to throw a party

1235
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 1: or to make some fashion decision and it just totally

1236
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 1: bombed bad. And so it's a lighthearted take on something

1237
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: that can give people, real steps, simple steps to get

1238
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: more out of life, but also great. It's really and

1239
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: it's just it's pulling back the curtains a little more

1240
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: in our lives and there's so much Family is the

1241
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: number one most important thing to us. My wife and

1242
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: I want to have kids soon too, and I think

1243
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot that we can still learn and share

1244
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: the experience as we grow together with our audience and

1245
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: I mean amazing people too, Like if you know oh

1246
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: Joy Joy cho between the oh Joy brand, She's going

1247
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: to be featured as well. And we have so many amazing,

1248
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: amazing people that are short stories. I always like when

1249
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: you kind of because we talk about this a lot,

1250
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: and you're going into your content piece, you know, where

1251
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 1: you get to talk about other things that are an

1252
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: extension of yourself. After a while, you know, you probably

1253
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: you guys probably do a lot of talking about yourself

1254
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: and especially Jonathan and things that you do, but you

1255
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: really also get to now highlight people that inspire you

1256
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: or that you like what they're doing and expect. So

1257
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: that's fun. And then Brother versus Brother and this is

1258
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: you guys competing, which is always best. This is season

1259
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: seven of Brother Versus Brothers. So after Property Brothers and

1260
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: our other shows, Jonathan and I were talking to the

1261
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: network and they're like, your show's at the top shows

1262
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: on the network. Is there anything else you can do

1263
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 1: for us? And we said, well, we love to compete,

1264
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: and they would see that on social media and whatnot.

1265
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: People our fans loved it as well and like, why

1266
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: don't we compete designing two houses? So this was actually

1267
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 1: Jonathan's plan to get me from just wearing a suit

1268
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 1: and getting my hands dirty again. So I had to

1269
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: get in there and do my own construction. And how

1270
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: does that usually pan out? Well, I've won more episodes

1271
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: than Drew hen you have. I've won more episodes, You've

1272
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: won more overall sale. Yeah, that's true. So the basically

1273
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: the way it works is the each episode there's a

1274
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: challenge like the kitchen challenge, and when I we'll have

1275
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: random celebrity friends who come in and judge the spaces

1276
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: based on whatever they want. They can judge. They can

1277
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: say I don't like pink, so you lose whatever. The

1278
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 1: way you win an actual season, the whole season of

1279
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: it is we renovate the houses, we sell them, and

1280
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: then whichever brother makes a bigger profit wins period and

1281
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: then all the money goes to charity. That's great. So

1282
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: the funny thing is the last season we shot in

1283
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and so and every challenge too, when whenever

1284
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: one of the brothers lose an episode like the living

1285
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: Room or the master Bedroom, there's a winning brother and

1286
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: a losing brother, and so the winning brother gets a reward.

1287
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: And so one of our challenges was, like, I'm a

1288
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: huge basketball nut, and so one of the rewards was

1289
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: to go shoot hoops with Steph Curry and so I'm like,

1290
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,880
Speaker 1: I want this one, and the losing brother had to

1291
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: be the ball boy. Well, sure enough, I won, and

1292
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: so we get to do fun things that are centric

1293
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: to the city. Did you guys get to shoot with Steph? Yeah? Yeah,

1294
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: I did. Like golf? Well, I love Raptors, I love Clippers.

1295
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 1: I haven't actually been to see the Lakers. Raptors. You

1296
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: lost your boy? No, I know what. He's here now

1297
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: so I can see him in LA but then also

1298
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: Golden State. But but so with that, we're now filming

1299
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: Brother Versus Brother season seven in LA. So the only

1300
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: thing I can tease to everybody is think of the

1301
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: fun LA centric rewards that you're going to see in

1302
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: punishments for Jonathan or a loser. Can I pitch myself? Yes, okay,

1303
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: how will you? We'll give you thirty seconds. No, okay,

1304
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: thirty seconds. I want to renovate my house. I don't

1305
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: want to spend a lot of money. Is there any

1306
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: way that I can be on the show so I

1307
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: can get my house renovation done for free? Get from everybody?

1308
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: So literally the pitch from everybody? Yeah, but have you

1309
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: learned nothing from this podcast? Our homeowners pay for eighty

1310
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: percent of the renovation, so they're still paying for the

1311
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: renovation on the show. Yeah, so thes But we give

1312
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: not only to get use of our design team for free.

1313
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: We get it done in a fraction of ten. Most

1314
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: people I know in LA who are renovating, it's like

1315
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,959
Speaker 1: a year and a half or more renovation. But also

1316
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 1: we stretch a budget like no one's business. I mean,

1317
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: if you see what like, sometimes you're like, you renovated

1318
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: that house for that much money? Come on, But our

1319
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: budgets are real. It's just we we get some stuff

1320
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: for free as well trade outs from companies. But we

1321
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 1: really know how to organize, stretch a budget and do it.

1322
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: What's the biggest budget house you've ever done? Well, so

1323
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: Fredy Bunch House, Yeah, you do that. That was pretty big.

1324
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: I mean that was awesome that we've done, and we've

1325
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: done in the millions for residential. I used to do

1326
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: commercial before we were doing the shows and whatnot, and

1327
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: so those were large budgets. Well, but yeah, I'm like,

1328
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm like kind of a celebrity, you know what I mean,

1329
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: Like I can I can help out with you. I

1330
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: think it'll be absolutely love your system. You can't just

1331
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: just consider the pitch, just atleast consider it. My house

1332
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: is like a children's frat house. I have three kids,

1333
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: the dogs piss everywhere. I need an adult home. So

1334
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to do I'm gonna do this. Yes, sounds like,

1335
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: well all of our house, great episode. I'm actually renovating this.

1336
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: If we had to choose one of your two houses

1337
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: to renovate on, and you had to each choose one

1338
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: one reason why you would be the better candidate, how

1339
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: would you sales pitch that? I mean, I would me, well,

1340
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: what the reason the reasoning selling us on? Its just

1341
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: me me, period? Because show I don't have an eye

1342
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: for design like Kate does, but I'm willing to learn.

1343
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: I know what's good. I just don't know how to

1344
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: make it all come together. I have three kids and

1345
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: not nearly the amount of money that Kate has to

1346
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: do whatever she wants with her seventeen houses and properties.

1347
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't have seven. I have one property, but you

1348
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 1: could have more houses if you want. He's hypothetically, but

1349
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: so you know, and I'm better on camera in a

1350
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: sort of an improv sense, you know what I mean,

1351
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: Like I will be more talking about I don't know,

1352
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm just fun. I just fund that in your process

1353
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: of applying to our show, you've now ruined your sister

1354
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,760
Speaker 1: brother relationship. No, I'm so used to this. Here's what

1355
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: I would say. Here's why I'd be the best candidate

1356
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: for your show. It's because Instagram follows. I actually really

1357
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: love to build homes, and the attachment I've had to

1358
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: this property is really intense because we grew up over there,

1359
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: so I've held on to this house forever I went.

1360
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: In the time it took for you guys to pitch those,

1361
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: we've unfortunately fully cast the show. Yeah, okay, so how

1362
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 1: often do you talk each day? These are our speed

1363
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 1: rounds with each other. Yeah, every day, Yeah, every day,

1364
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,959
Speaker 1: multiple times a day, mostly just by a text. What's

1365
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: the dumbest thing you've done to be competitive? Something just

1366
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 1: stupid where it's like, I'm better than you, but this

1367
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: is completely lame. Oh my gosh, that's a good question.

1368
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: I'd have to think. I mean, I do a lot

1369
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: of dumb shit. I mean, when we were younger, he

1370
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: used to try to, like, if there was a girl

1371
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: we both kind of liked, he tried to get there

1372
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: first before me to one up me. And then sometimes

1373
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 1: I think it was a little bit too intense and

1374
01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: stockersh and so that was always making them like me more.

1375
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: Do you guys have the same Do you guys have

1376
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: the same body hair pattern? I have no body hair?

1377
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: Do you have any body hair? Have you do? So

1378
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: you have body hair and you don't? Lazier, let me

1379
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: start with this stuff. Okay, one word to describe each other,

1380
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: but you describe each other. Okay, all in? That's two words,

1381
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: but it's still so true, says Jonathan. Is all in? Jonathan? True?

1382
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:26,200
Speaker 1: I would say, uh like forward definitely the more outgoing.

1383
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: Who's better at keeping a secret? Definitely Jonathan? Oh my gosh, No,

1384
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: he's the worst. You have to tell me I have

1385
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,920
Speaker 1: to keep it boom. I'm with you, man, If you

1386
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: don't tell me not to say anything, now, I'm just

1387
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: going to say it. How am I supposed to not know?

1388
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 1: Yougnant because you don't indulge And I know this is

1389
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: a speed round, but can I just really quickly say

1390
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: it was a big reveal on Property Brothers and the family.

1391
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: The wife was revealing on the show that she's pregnant,

1392
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: but she didn't want to tell her family until the

1393
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: show was airing, so all her family would see on

1394
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,400
Speaker 1: the show that she's saying she's pregnant. Well, the production

1395
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: team was there and they were told I was shooting

1396
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 1: on another location, and then I came over. They were

1397
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: all told it's a secret from the family, and then

1398
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: we're just about to do a big thing with the

1399
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: family at the end, like your congratulations. So I come in.

1400
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: The first thing I say the production person, I'm like, hey,

1401
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 1: so does everyone know that it's uh that that she's pregnant,

1402
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: And they're like, yeah, everyone knows. Well, they meant all

1403
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: the crew know. I thought they meant all the family know.

1404
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: So we did a big speech in front of the

1405
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: whole family, and the lady's like, we're so happy to

1406
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: be on property, but thank you for doing this with us.

1407
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: And then I take the mic and then I'm saying

1408
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: next one. I'm like, well, oh, she's like this, this

1409
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: renovation was such a great surprise for us. And then

1410
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: I take the mic and I'm like, well, that's not

1411
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: the only great surprise. And I put my hand on

1412
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: her stomach and I'm like and I look at it,

1413
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: and all I see is Jonathan and all our our

1414
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: team like to their handle. You got to tell me

1415
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 1: it's that, honey, that's fun. Okay, what do you think

1416
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: is the biggest difference between the two of you. Jonathan

1417
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: likes Jonathan likes downtime more. I'm learning to like down more.

1418
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: I'm a workaholic and I really love a busy, busy pace,

1419
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: and especially with one in kids soon I need to learn.

1420
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: Can I send them real quick? You know what's so

1421
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: funny is like we do these podcasts, we always sit across.

1422
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: It always seems like the two similar people are sitting

1423
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: next to each other and every single one that we do.

1424
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: So you don't shower either, No, that's cool. Yeah, I

1425
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: actually hate showering a warrior. Who's more outgoing? I would

1426
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: say overtly, like as far as like meeting people and

1427
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: doing that and having friends and being social. But who

1428
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: is messier? Jonathan? You know I'm a clean friends, but

1429
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't have to put all the clothes away or

1430
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 1: the dishes away until after I've enjoyed the meal. Who

1431
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: would win? Who would win in a fistfight? Dally? I

1432
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: don't know you would win because he seems a little

1433
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I fight dirty. You do go for

1434
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: the shin he pull out like a hed like slice

1435
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: my ankle or something, and I would just go for

1436
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: I'm wired. Who's funnier, I'm stronger. Who's the funniest to

1437
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: I would say John like Jhonath's funny? But were we

1438
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: play off each other, that's what we love. We get

1439
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 1: asked to do individual appearances, but I actually enjoy being

1440
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: together because we have a fun So who's the wittiest, Like,

1441
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 1: who's the I would I would say probably like I

1442
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: I I think that would probably be like I'd say

1443
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: maybe Jonathan and Goofy. Who's goofyest? Which trade off? I

1444
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: think the fans may think that on the show Jonathan's

1445
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: goof here because there's more like screen time doing demolition

1446
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: where you can goof off. But what I say on

1447
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: the show, they could never Yeah, so I think in

1448
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 1: reality probably, but on the show it appears Jonathan. So,

1449
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: who's the most rebellious Jonathan? Growing up? One percent? He was.

1450
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 1: He rebelled more than I was. He was a pain

1451
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: in the butt. Are you guys put on authentic on

1452
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 1: this show or is there a part of you that

1453
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: sort of gives it a little bit more because you

1454
01:07:52,760 --> 01:07:55,280
Speaker 1: know you're on camera, you know you're entertaining, you know,

1455
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, are you just so? Are you? This is

1456
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: who you are? It is who we are. And I

1457
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: think that's one thing that the fans really love and

1458
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: gravitate towards, is that when they meet us some person,

1459
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: they're always like, you're so you on the show. We're

1460
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: not pretending to be someone else. If you were to

1461
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: cast yourself in a movie, who would you cast? Well,

1462
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: Jonathan always gets Harry Connick Junior like all the time,

1463
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: or he had basically no, but I never get that.

1464
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the funny thing. Though nobody ever

1465
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 1: says that. Everyone always says he looks like Harry Knic

1466
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: but I always get if my hair like a bit

1467
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,639
Speaker 1: of beard, and in shorter hair, I get Ben Affleck

1468
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: or I get like Tony Robbins. So that's a nice cross.

1469
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: A nice cross I would cast Christopher Walkins, I say,

1470
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:46,400
Speaker 1: I think so okay. So the best advice that you've

1471
01:08:46,439 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: received from each other we liked this is our favorite

1472
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 1: part advice. I'd say. The one thing that I really

1473
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 1: love that Jonathan and are a good reminder for each other.

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Speaker 1: And because I'm a workaholic, it's nice for him to

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Speaker 1: remind me to enjoy the journey. It's not always just

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Speaker 1: about the end result. To take time to enjoy the journey,

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Speaker 1: especially when I have someone amazing like my wife with me.

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Speaker 1: Take time to enjoy the small moments along the way.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that Drew had sort of

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Speaker 1: brought into the fact that when we would disagree on

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Speaker 1: how to do something, Drew had said, you know, you

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Speaker 1: got to understand, there's a million right ways to do something,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't always take the right It always doesn't

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Speaker 1: always there's a million right ways to do something, but

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Speaker 1: it doesn't always take the same path to get there.

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Speaker 1: And so that was actually very valuable because you're right

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, who cares what method

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Speaker 1: you use as long as Yeah, I mean and tying

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Speaker 1: into that though too, best advice we ever had together

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Speaker 1: from our mom and dad, Like they give us so

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Speaker 1: much great advice and at the time as kids, you

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Speaker 1: don't think about it, but like stuff for example, they said,

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Speaker 1: you can always get to the top. If you're really

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Speaker 1: passionate about something and you want to achieve something, you

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Speaker 1: can always get there. But there's always a path to

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Speaker 1: do it without stepping on someone along the way. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's how we've always lived our lives is

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Speaker 1: we never have to knock someone else down or put

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Speaker 1: someone else in a worse situation to get to where

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Speaker 1: we wanted to too, there's always a way to work

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Speaker 1: with other people to get there. Sounds like you're awesome

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Speaker 1: parents together. They're still together. We spend as much time

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Speaker 1: as possible together. They're going to be with us for

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Speaker 1: over the holidays too, So still in love. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: so great. Yeah, that's rare. If you could give your

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Speaker 1: sibling something like if you could insert them with a

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Speaker 1: characteristic or something that you knew would be amazing for them,

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Speaker 1: what would that be. What do you wish like that

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Speaker 1: they don't already have? Yeah, something that if you if

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Speaker 1: you just had this, you know, I would say the

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Speaker 1: ability to realize that other people have emotions and don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily think about things like a robot. I've worked on

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Speaker 1: that my years with Linda. Before I was very I

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Speaker 1: just talked to everyone the way I talked to john

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Speaker 1: very straightforward. And now I'm fine with me, I would say,

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Speaker 1: which Johnson's actually come to realize. I think too. But

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Speaker 1: you know, over the years, he's been in and out

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Speaker 1: of relationships, and I think the one great thing was

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Speaker 1: to it was to remind him that he is a catch,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not just saying that because he looks like me.

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Speaker 1: Like he is a great person. He loves with his

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Speaker 1: whole heart whenever he's with somebody, and that he will

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Speaker 1: find somebody that feels the same way in return and

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Speaker 1: gives him back how much that he gives. And I

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Speaker 1: like that he I don't know if that was a

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Speaker 1: reminder that that you needed, but I like that he

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Speaker 1: took that and now he's in an amazing relationship. That's great.

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Speaker 1: And what would you take? What would you take from

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Speaker 1: each other? Like if you could take one thing relieve

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Speaker 1: like relieve, it would it would be that that care

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Speaker 1: free thing where you just go up and meet a

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Speaker 1: stranger and have no problem. Meaning a stranger. I'm not

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Speaker 1: that guy. I don't. I'm not. I don't, so you would,

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Speaker 1: But would you like to have a piece of that?

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Speaker 1: And I think Jonathan Jonathan is a hopeless romantic and

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Speaker 1: so I think for for me, like there's so many

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Speaker 1: little things that he always does. I'm like, that's taking

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Speaker 1: so much time, why are you doing that? But he

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Speaker 1: does all these amazing little things. I think that's something

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Speaker 1: that I'm continually learning from him, uh, to improve on you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that fearlessness, that's a that's the word that I use

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Speaker 1: with her too, because that's what I would take from Kate.

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Speaker 1: She's just fearless. And if I could have a little

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Speaker 1: piece of that, I'd be way more fan. It's a

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Speaker 1: very good attribute. Yeah, you guys are awesome. You guys

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Speaker 1: are amazing. I would have for another two hours, But

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming and talking to you.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you again when you do my house. When

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Speaker 1: you do my house, Thanks Pater. Sibling Rivalry is executive

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Speaker 1: produced by Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson and sim Sarna. Supervising

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Speaker 1: producer is Alison Presnik. Editor is Josh Wendish. Music by

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Speaker 1: Mark Hudson, a k a. Uncle Man,