1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 2: Congratulations to the Seahawks who dominated the Patriots twenty nine 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: to thirteen. Although it's an interesting way to say dominating 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: the Patriots, because it certainly felt that way. But it 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: was only nine to nothing, and you kept thinking, goll Y, 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: if they get a pick six, they get a fumble, 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: they get maybe a long run, something here, and we 9 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: kept waiting for something here. And then we had an 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: exciting fourth quarter. But it was one of those games 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: where I kept thinking, is New England going to steal this? 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 2: This great defensive performance by Seattle will be wasted by 13 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 2: a couple of plays. But give credit to Seattle. They 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 2: came up with big plays when they needed to. Drake 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: May was sacked six times. Sam Donald played okay, Drake 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: May played okay in the fourth quarter. Kenneth Walker Junior, 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: the third named most valuable Player. After the game, Sam 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: Donald talked about what this moment meant? 19 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: Sam, what does this moment mean? 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 4: It's unbelievable, you know, just everything that's that's happened in 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 4: my career, about to do it with this team. I 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: wouldn't want it any other way. I'm so proud of 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 4: our guys, our defense. I mean, I can't say enough 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 4: great things about our defense, our special teams. I know 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 4: we won the Super Bowl, but we could have been 26 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: a little bit better on offense, but I don't care 27 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: about that right now. It's an unbelievable feeling. 28 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: Man. 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: I'm just so happy for the the guys in the 30 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 4: locker room and the coaches that put in so much 31 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: effort throughout the whole season. 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: That defense was spectacular. They were wonderful. 33 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: And you know, I think we all thought during the 34 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: year that New England was going to be there a 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: year earlier because it's a very young team. They got 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: cap space, they got draft picks. I mean, they are 37 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: set up for the future, and they did look like 38 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 2: they were a year or two early there. 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: Seattle. 40 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: Wow, that was impressive really from start to finish, And 41 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: I thought Chris collins Worth brought up a great point. 42 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: New England's defense in the first half so aggressive, overly aggressive, 43 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: as if to say, we have to win it with defense. 44 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 2: We don't have enough offense. And that's why I picked 45 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: Seattle to win twenty four to thirteen. I didn't think 46 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 2: New England could score twenty points Therefore it came down 47 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: to could Seattle score twenty points. They ended up with 48 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: twenty nine, but Mike McDonald a lot of praise. He 49 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: was calling the defensive plays while being the head coach, 50 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: and that defense was everywhere swarming, and even New England's 51 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: Christian gonzalezly he made some big plays. But you know, 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: you had too many players on Seattle making too many plays. 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: And Kenneth Walker when you're around running backs like that 54 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: because he's not tall and you go, how is he 55 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: so fast? But he's so good And there's one play 56 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: in particular, and Collinsworth even pointed this out. He was 57 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: kind of walking up to the line of scrimmage. I mean, 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: leve On Bell created a whole new running style and 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 2: here was Kenneth Walker just kind of walking up and 60 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: then boom, he sees his moment and takes advantage of it. 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 2: They had enough plays to be able to keep New 62 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 2: England's defense honest. But it doesn't matter the stats for 63 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: Sam Donald, and I know you can be really picky. 64 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 2: We'll go back and look at Tom Brady's first couple 65 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 2: of Super Bowls. Okay, they won with defense. They didn't 66 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 2: ask much Peyton Manning's last Super Bowl. He didn't do anything. 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: Sometimes you're along for the ride, but what you did 68 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: to get your team to that point where you can 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 2: be along for the ride. Give Sam Darnold a lot 70 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: of credit because you get kicked to the curb. You've 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: played for five teams and now you're a Super Bowl champ. 72 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: The Seahawks head coach Mike McDonald on the decision to 73 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 2: bring Sam Darnald to Seattle. 74 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 5: John deserves a lot of credit to that processing. 75 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 6: That's kind of on chartered waters that you have to 76 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 6: navigate and you know it. To the outside eye, probably 77 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 6: seemed like it happened fast, but he did a great 78 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 6: job of guiding us through all those decisions. 79 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 5: We're on record with it. Clint had a relationship with him. 80 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 6: There's a lot of people on our building that new 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 6: Sam that you could. 82 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 5: Vouch for who he was as a person. The tape 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 5: backed it up. 84 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 6: I think people made too big of a deal of 85 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 6: him of like the last two games in the season, 86 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 6: which I thought was a dumb like watch the whole season. 87 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 6: The guy played great all year. He came in to 88 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 6: limit and beat us. They won like fourteen games. So 89 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 6: Clint knew he could do the stuff that we want 90 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 6: him to do in our offense, and then how's the 91 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 6: rock and roll. 92 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: I think it's kind of sloppy take if you say 93 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: it was not a good football game, because then you're 94 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: missing out on the dominance of that Seattle defense. I mean, 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: you can go back to the eighty five Bears against 96 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: the Patriots. You might say that wasn't a good game. 97 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: You're missing the point. You're watching a historical performance by 98 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: the defense. And that's what you had with Seattle. The 99 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: fourth Super Bowl team in history to allow fewer than 100 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: fourteen points, get six or more sacks, and score a 101 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: defensive touchdown. The Broncos did that in Super Bowl fifty 102 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 2: when they dominated the Panthers. The Bears did that when 103 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: they beat the Patriots forty six to ten. And then 104 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 2: the Raiders, going back to the Jack Squire picked six 105 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: on Joe Theisman. That was thirty eight to nine. That's 106 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 2: pretty good company there with some great defenses. And I know, 107 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 2: and it comes down to, as I tell you every 108 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 2: single year at this time, if you can run the 109 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: football and play defense, you can win the Super Bowl. 110 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 2: If you get to this point this game and given 111 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: all the tension and how Super Bowls get out of 112 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 2: hand one mistake and then it leads to another. If 113 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 2: you can run the football, be as close to turnover free, 114 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: and play great defense, you'll win. And that's what happened 115 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: again last night. So all the fanfare for throwing the 116 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: ball wide open offenses, it came down to Kenneth Walker 117 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: running the football and that defense being unbelievable. All right, Seaton, 118 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: pull question for hour one is going to be what got. 119 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 3: A couple options here for you? 120 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 7: Sort of off that topic, which unit deserves most credit 121 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 7: for Seattle's win? Run, the pass rush, secondary run game 122 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 7: or special teams. 123 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: Special teams, special teams. 124 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: I mean, everybody was really good that you mentioned, But 125 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: when you they place such an emphasis on special teams 126 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 2: in Seattle, and when your field goal kicker and your 127 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: punter are changing the game, they're making their field goals 128 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 2: and their punts are inside the ten yard line, huge, massive, 129 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 2: and what that does psychologically when you have the ball 130 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: at the twenty or twenty five, or you have it 131 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: at the one and you're not moving the ball at 132 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: all and you have no big play capabilities. I thought 133 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 2: that was just devastating for the Patriots. But that pass rush, 134 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: if you don't have to blitz man, is that an advantage? 135 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: And Tony Dungey talked about that. We've seen these moments 136 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: where you go, they don't even have to rush another guy, 137 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: they just have four and that allows the secondary. If 138 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 2: you got four going, you got a bunch of guys 139 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: back there, and you had nobody who was going to 140 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: beach over the top. Seattle never worried about getting beat deep. 141 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: It was all right in front of them. 142 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 143 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 8: Paul Michael Dixon the punter for the Seahawks. Seven punts 144 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 8: forty eight yard average, three of them down inside the 145 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 8: six yard line, two returns for a total of four yards. 146 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 8: He also was the holder on all the kicks and 147 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 8: he got a couple of bats snaps, but to. 148 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: Be able to pin them back. I don't think he 149 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: had a touch back in the playoffs. Seattle didn't have 150 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: a turnover in the playoffs. I mean, those things don't happen. 151 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: And I think with Sam Darnold you were probably waiting 152 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: for now. He didn't play good in the first half, 153 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 2: and I thought New England had a couple of chances, 154 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: certainly for interceptions, maybe a pick six, but that Seattle 155 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 2: defense was fun to watch, dominating, and that left side 156 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: of the Patriots offensive line, two rookies over there. I 157 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: was fixated on that side of the ball for the 158 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: first I was just I kept watching and those guys 159 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 2: were drowning. They were drowning there in Seattle Green and 160 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: you could tell Drake May, I mean, that's where you 161 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: see ghosts. Sam Darnold famously said he saw ghosts. I'm 162 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: gonna guess Drake May saw some ghosts and will continue 163 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: to see some ghosts. And I know afterwards he talked 164 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: about his shoulder. There was talk about the shoulder during 165 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 2: Super Bowl Week. He got it shot up to play. 166 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: Might be one of those where he gets it cleaned 167 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: out in the off season. I don't know how much 168 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: of a factor that had. I don't know if it 169 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: would have mattered if he was completely healthy. Just there 170 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 2: was no time to think when he went back there. 171 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: All right, So we got a poll question on the 172 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: part of the Seahawks team that stood out the most. 173 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, and then this is sort of cut from the 174 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 7: same cloth though, But what actually decided last night's game 175 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 7: was at the Seahawks pass rush and the Patriots offensive line. 176 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 7: Special teams or coaching. 177 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 5: Man, you got it. 178 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: I mean it's all of the above. 179 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: Like that was total team total, and the only dip 180 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 2: was really JSN wasn't a fact. I mean, imagine that 181 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: if I said, yeah, they won and JSN wasn't a 182 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: factor at all, and he wasn't and Sam played subpar, 183 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: but they ended up dominating, you know, to win it 184 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 2: in double figures. And you kept wondering, if you know, 185 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: is there something more that New England can do? And 186 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 2: here's Josh McDaniels, who has more experience than any other 187 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator in NFL history in the Super Bowl, and 188 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 2: I kept thinking, I want Drake Maye to get the 189 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: ball and get it out of his hands, like right away, 190 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, almost a Brady like playbook of just get 191 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: it out. I don't care where it's going, get it out, 192 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: because if you go back and you're seven steps back 193 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 2: and you got that rush coming off the edge, you're 194 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: gonna have a lot of company all night long. 195 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 7: This this time, we're gonna stop him. Yeah, let's just run 196 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 7: it again. This time we'll stop him. What the hell, dude, 197 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 7: what are you doing? 198 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: I think we're tiring them out. 199 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: Now we can throw that pass and then you're going, Okay, 200 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: who's their deep receiver and they don't have one, And 201 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: it goes back to it wasn't a great offense. And 202 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: Drake May what he did during the regular season. I 203 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: still would look at him as the MVP because of 204 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: what he did during the regular season. And that's what 205 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 2: the vote is. You know, they tabulate that before the 206 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: postseason starts. He did not have a good postseason at all. 207 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: Sacked fumbles, did not play well at all, but they 208 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: somehow got to this point. Give credit to Vrabel, he 209 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: did a wonderful job. He's your coach of the year. 210 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: But man, oh man, Mike McDonald had a game plan. Yeah, seton. 211 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 9: I do. 212 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 7: I love the Sam Donald redemption story. And it's unfortunate 213 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 7: that Drake May had a terrible postseason but really played 214 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 7: a terrible game. And I do think it's funny that 215 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 7: Drake May threw for more touchdown passes last night than 216 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 7: Sam Donald. And Sam Donald resurrected his career off of 217 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 7: this run. And Drake May's got to go back to 218 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 7: the drawing board. Well, it's like things that don't add 219 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 7: up when you look at them on paper. 220 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: Got to get some weapons. Yeah, gotta get some weapons. 221 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: And I thought that they were going to be able 222 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: to run the football. I really did. And then all 223 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 2: of a sudden, Drake may sprinkles in some passes and 224 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: that's all you want. 225 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: Keep the defense honest, and they couldn't do that. 226 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: That defense basically said, we don't care what you're doing. 227 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: We're coming after you every single play. Yeah, pony, I. 228 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 8: Know the first three quarters were rough, but there was 229 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 8: a point in the fourth quarter they were down the 230 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 8: Patriots down nineteen to seven. They had the ball with 231 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 8: ten minutes and forty seconds to go. They go on 232 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 8: a seven play, forty yard drive. They're across the fifty. 233 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 8: It's second and three, and they took that shot downfield 234 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 8: that was intercepted. I mean, there's a lot of time left. 235 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 8: I think that interception there was eight forty nine on 236 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 8: the clock. If they somehow get that to nineteen fourteen, 237 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 8: the pressure changes quickly. 238 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: I was wondering and I kept thinking I'd be passing 239 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: on first down. I would be passing on the non 240 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 2: passing downs because I just have to switch this up. 241 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 2: And Josh McDaniels did not have a good night calling plays. 242 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: It just felt like Seattle kind of figured out there 243 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: was no rhythm with New England, and you're and you know, 244 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 2: Tariko and Collins were at one point thought that the 245 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: Patriots were going to get some rhythm. Then I think 246 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: they had a turnover right after that. You were just 247 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: waiting for something where you'd go, I mean their drive 248 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: would be like seven plays forty yards. That would be 249 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: a sustained drive for New England. And you know, meanwhile, 250 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, you know those chunk plays played great, but 251 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: it still comes down to no turnovers, playing great defense 252 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: and making them make mistakes. 253 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 10: Yes, Tom, I was wondering at halftime, as good as 254 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 10: a coach as Mike Rabel is or appears to be, 255 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 10: what do you do at halftime when a team's got 256 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 10: that good the defense? You know, you always say, like 257 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 10: you got to make the necessary adjustments. Is there anything 258 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 10: he really could have said or done that would have 259 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 10: significantly changed what they did in the second half. 260 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 2: I would have said, we're down nine to nothing. All 261 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 2: we need to do is go out there, we get 262 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: the ball, start second a second half. Let's let's go 263 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: down there and score touchdown, and worst we get a 264 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: field goal. Now we're down six let's let's put the 265 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: pressure on them. But I just kept waiting for some 266 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: kind of rhythm there and it never happened. It just 267 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 2: felt like they were like, I don't know what are 268 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: we doing. I don't know, what do you think? 269 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: I don't know? Hey, we better block that side of 270 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: the line. 271 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, and that second half opening drive I think is 272 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 7: just another three and out. 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Taylor's livelihood depends on it. You do it 293 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 11: today and you can check all of those out on 294 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 11: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. 295 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: Drew Brees smelling Hall of Famer and joining us on 296 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: behalf of a stretch Zone, a brand new research study 297 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 2: that we'll talk to him about. How important was first 298 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: ballot to you? 299 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 12: Uh, you know what, I think, all of this is 300 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 12: still pretty surreal. You know. 301 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 13: I don't think as a kid you necessarily sit there 302 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 13: and think about, you know, Hall of Fame. I think 303 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 13: at that point you're just thinking, I just want to 304 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 13: play this sport for as long as I can. I 305 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 13: love playing it, I love being a part of the team. 306 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 13: Maybe I can play in college someday, Maybe I can 307 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 13: play in the NFL someday. And then all of a sudden, 308 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 13: you play twenty years and the numbers add up to 309 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 13: the point where you know, people think it justifies you 310 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 13: being a first ballot Hall of Famer. So I mean, honestly, 311 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 13: I just have such such a respect and a reverence 312 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 13: for the game and for the opportunity to play it 313 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 13: for so long and try to make my mark on 314 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 13: the game and be it better than when I found it. 315 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: But you defied the odds because if I said, hey, 316 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 2: he's not six four, not six or five in an 317 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: era where everybody had to be six fours in college, 318 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: you're six feet and you're not a runner. Like it 319 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: doesn't add up, Like how did you beat the odds 320 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: to be able to throw for sixty thousand yards? 321 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 12: Well, if you. 322 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 13: Recall, you had me on your show about what ten 323 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 13: years ago at the Super Bowl, and I think we 324 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 13: went through my draft reading where it did say I 325 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 13: was a runner. 326 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 12: It was saying I would run through people. I didn't 327 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 12: know how to make a miss. 328 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: A tough it' said a tough runner, A tough runner. 329 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 14: That was. 330 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 13: That was you know, twenty pounds ago, you know, and 331 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 13: I was playing in the Big ten. Had to bulk up, 332 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 13: you know. You know, honestly, I take pride in that. 333 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 13: I take pride in being you know, call it a 334 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 13: six foot quarterback. You know, maybe being a little bit undersized. 335 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 13: I always felt like I had something to prove. I 336 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 13: had chip on my shoulder. I mean, I don't know 337 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 13: what it's like to be six'. Five you, know do 338 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 13: those guys have better? Vision do they can they see 339 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 13: up over the line of, scrimmage and you, know it's 340 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 13: a whole new world up, THERE i bet in that. 341 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 12: STRATOSPHERE i, MEAN i. 342 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 13: Always felt, like, honestly this is the Way i've always 343 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 13: described it, is if you close your, eyes so you 344 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 13: take away your visual, sense all of a, sudden your 345 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 13: sense of hearing is, heightened and your sense of smell 346 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 13: and just sense of awareness and feeling of what's around. 347 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 13: You that's probably the best way to describe maybe playing 348 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 13: the quarterback position in the pocket amongst a world of, 349 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 13: giants where at times maybe you can't necessarily see exactly 350 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 13: where you're throwing the, football but you can feel what's around, 351 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 13: you and you can sense the depth of the linebacker 352 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 13: and then the safety over the, top and you know 353 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 13: that that receiver is going to be rolling that incut 354 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 13: in at fifteen yards and that your feet are telling 355 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 13: you it's time to turn the ball, loose, right and 356 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 13: you let it go and you just lay it to. 357 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 12: That spot and then it's like poetry in. 358 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 13: Motion it hits them in the hands and it's you, 359 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 13: know first, down and then you're on to the next 360 00:17:59,160 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 13: play to do it. 361 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 12: Again SO i. 362 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 13: Can't tell you how many times that was playing the 363 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 13: quarterback position where you wouldn't necessarily always see, it but 364 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 13: it didn't mean that you couldn't feel it or that 365 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 13: you couldn't visualize. 366 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: It let me put you In Drake may's position On 367 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: sunday and what would you have done differently as far 368 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: as protections or philosophy of when you get the ball, Out, 369 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: like you, know what are you doing differently when you 370 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: see What seattle's? 371 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 13: Doing, Well first, off that defense was as good as 372 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 13: there was in this. League you, know all year long 373 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 13: That seattle. Defense they could rush the. Passer they had 374 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 13: a ton of skill on the back end as. WELL 375 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 13: i can't give enough credit To mike McDonald and kind 376 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 13: of just what he built with that system and with that. 377 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 12: Team at the end of the. 378 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 13: Day when you're playing a pass rush like, that there 379 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 13: is a premium to finding ways to get the ball, 380 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 13: out just trying to get the ball on the perimeter 381 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 13: to guys where it's one on, one maybe they have 382 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 13: a chance to just get your three four. YARDS i 383 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 13: think you just have to be okay with the fact 384 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 13: that you may not get a ton of explosive plays 385 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 13: because you're not going to have the chance to hold 386 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 13: the ball very. Long then you mix in a play 387 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 13: you got to run the ball, effectively you got to 388 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 13: get on the, perimeter and then you kind of pick 389 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 13: and choose your slots to you, know throw in a 390 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 13: play action to try to push the ball down the. 391 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 13: Field but you have to be okay with more of 392 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 13: a ball. Control there's a premium on not having negative, 393 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 13: plays not giving up sacks because you get a third 394 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 13: and long against that, defense like you're, done you, know 395 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 13: and so play the field position battle a little. Bit 396 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 13: look early, on your defense was playing really well. Too 397 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 13: they were Holding seattle to a bunch of field, goals 398 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 13: so you were keeping the game. Close but they just 399 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 13: needed to cash in a few more times and just 400 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 13: not give up so many negative. 401 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: Plays i'm talking to first Ballot hall Of fame Or Drew. 402 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: Brees when were you told you guys were going to 403 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 2: open up Your Super bowl the second half with an 404 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: on side? 405 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 13: Kick so So Sean payton had nicknamed that play. Ambush 406 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 13: And i'm literally the first meeting of because it was you, 407 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 13: know two weekly time from you, KNOW Nfc championship to 408 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 13: a Super. Bowl literally the first, meeting we come in 409 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 13: and it's, like, hey here's the practice, schedule blah blah, 410 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 13: blah and, oh by the, way. 411 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 12: We have this on side. Kick it's called. 412 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 13: Ambush it's not a matter of if we're going to call, 413 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 13: it but, when so get ready and it has to. 414 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 2: Work so it wasn't, Scored it wasn't score. Dependent you're 415 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: opening up the second, Half. 416 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 12: Yeah it. 417 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 13: Was it was all look and and this is this 418 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,199 Speaker 13: is part of the greatness Of Sean. Payton it's just 419 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 13: the instincts and just feeling the flow of the game 420 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 13: and the momentum and just knowing. 421 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 12: The right time to call. 422 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 13: It and again he, said it wasn't a matter of, 423 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 13: if it was, When like when are we going to do? 424 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 13: This we're going to call. It and if you recall 425 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 13: the way that game started with The, colts you, know 426 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 13: they came right out scored on their first two. Possessions 427 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 13: they were up ten, zero and and then we calmed 428 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 13: it down a little bit in the second. Quarter we 429 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 13: got a field goal to field goals before, half and 430 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 13: So sean felt, like, okay we now have the. Momentum 431 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 13: we're kicking off in the second. Half they're kind of 432 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 13: resetting themselves on the other side because we, had you, 433 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 13: know staged a little bit of this. Comeback so he's, 434 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 13: like this is this is when they'll never expect. It 435 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 13: so much of it onside kick is you do it 436 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 13: when nobody thinks you're going to do it right in 437 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 13: the Super, bowl biggest, stage coming on a, halftime you 438 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 13: have all the, momentum you, know and it was the 439 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 13: perfect time to do, it. 440 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: And it could have gone. Wrong it could have gone really. 441 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 3: Wrong but again again. 442 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,199 Speaker 13: A great sign of leadership is instilling confidence right and 443 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 13: belief in your team and making it feel like it's. 444 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 13: WORKED i, mean he told us again very first, meeting 445 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 13: we are going to call this and it has to. 446 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 12: Work it will. 447 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: Work but you knew going out the start of the 448 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: second half that ambush is. 449 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 13: On well and here's a great thing, too is he 450 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 13: intentionally kicked the ball the direction he kicked, it knowing 451 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 13: that Here Thomas morstead is going to kick this thing 452 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 13: and it needs to happen at our sideline, Right like 453 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 13: again you're thinking about the human nature element of all 454 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 13: of a sudden there's a scrum on the ground for the, 455 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 13: ball and all the officials are over there prying bodies, 456 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 13: away trying to see who has the ball and if 457 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 13: they're on The saints, sideline and everybody's Going Saints, Paul. 458 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 12: Saints, Paul Saints. Paul you, know if. 459 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 13: There's any type of you, know a, question it's, hey 460 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 13: it's white, ball, right as opposed to that happens on 461 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 13: the opposing sideline and they're just getting it from the other. 462 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 12: Side, maybe you, know the results. 463 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: Different we speaking of results, Different we talked To Jason 464 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: garrett last hour and he said that he was there 465 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: In miami and having. Dinner you and your wife thought 466 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: that you were going to be going. There WHAT i 467 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 2: didn't understand, Is, okay you had a shoulder, injury but 468 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: they decided On Dante, culpepper who also had a damaged, 469 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 2: knee and they kind of bet on his knee over your. 470 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 13: Shoulder, yeah you, KNOW i remember everything about that trip To. Miami, 471 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 13: again like on, paper you, Know i'm coming off of 472 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 13: the should the major shoulder. Injury not sure If i'm 473 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 13: ever gonna play football, again but, hopeful and it's The 474 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 13: New Orleans saints and The Miami. Dolphins on, paper this 475 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 13: was the easiest decision in the. World it's The Miami 476 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 13: dolphins all the. Way Nick saban's the head, coach has 477 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 13: done an outstanding job of that, defense one of the 478 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 13: best defense in the. 479 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 12: League Zach, Thomas Jason. 480 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 13: Taylor like they had finished that last season the previous, 481 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 13: season winning seven in a. Row really the only question 482 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 13: mark for the team was. Quarterback they had skilled position. 483 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 13: Guys Jason garrett was the quarterback, Coach Mike malarkey was THE. 484 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 13: Oc they were running the same offensive system THAT i 485 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 13: was coming from In San. 486 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 12: Diego on my. 487 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 13: Recruiting trip, there we're eating dinner On Wayne heizingi's yacht 488 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 13: and he's sitting there talking about how. 489 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 12: Every summer we're going to go To scotland and play. 490 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 13: Golf mee you And. Dan i'm Like, Dan they're, like, 491 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 13: Yeah Dan. Marino i'm, Like dan is like my mentor 492 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 13: now you know WHAT i, Mean, like this is the 493 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 13: greatest day. Ever you, Know stay Of, florida no state income. 494 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 13: FACTS i, mean this is a no, brainer. Right but 495 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 13: also on that, trip they put me through like this 496 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 13: this rigorous you know health you know inspection basically like 497 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 13: six hours of testing CONTRAST mri. Tube you know Where 498 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 13: i'm in the en mar tetle literally literally for two, 499 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 13: hours and they're trying to assess just the damage that 500 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 13: was done to my shoulder and the chances of me 501 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 13: being able to come back and be the. Same remember 502 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 13: sticking these big needles in my arm to test my nerve. 503 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 12: ENDINGS i, mean it was. Nuts and at the end 504 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 12: of the, Day Nick saban. 505 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 13: Looked me in the eye and, said you, know our 506 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 13: doctors think you have a twenty five percent chance of 507 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 13: ever coming back and playing. It And i'm, like, well, 508 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 13: OKAY i know what they, say but what do you. 509 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 13: Think you, Know he's, like you, KNOW i got to 510 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 13: believe what the doctors are telling, me you, know but you, 511 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 13: know we still want. You but you know It's i'm 512 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 13: just letting you know kind of you, know what's been. 513 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 13: Said and SO i just really didn't get the feeling 514 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 13: that they had a ton of faith or confidence in 515 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 13: my ability to come. Back so despite how good that 516 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 13: visit was and how much RESPECT i had for them 517 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 13: and the organization and, everything you, know The saints was 518 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 13: a totally different story from the perspective Of, LOOK i, 519 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 13: mean we know that city was, destroyed you, know But 520 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 13: Sean payton And Mickey loomis had just this unwavering belief 521 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 13: in me to be their guy and to be a 522 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 13: leader of that. Organization it was going to be this 523 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 13: collaboration AND i was gonna have so much. Input they 524 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 13: were building this thing around, Me and it was just 525 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 13: that moment WHERE i felt LIKE i had a chance 526 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 13: to be a part of something so much greater than. 527 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 13: Football it felt like it Was god's calling in my 528 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 13: life to be, there and so that's why we chosen. 529 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 3: Worlds did The saints not have AN mri? Machine they. 530 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 2: Didn't they didn't put you through the same test that 531 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 2: The dolphins apparently. 532 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 12: Not it was down. 533 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 13: You, KNOW i think it was a little bit maybe 534 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 13: it was, like you, know ignorance is. Bliss it was, 535 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 13: like we don't want to. Know we would rather not 536 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 13: look at the. Images we're just, gonna you, know so 537 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 13: maintain a ton of faith and hope that you're going 538 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 13: to Be, okay. 539 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: Tell us what you're doing with the stretch zone. Effect, 540 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: yeah so Stred. 541 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 13: Zone is a practitioner Led stretching brand the fastest, growing 542 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 13: largest in the. Country it's been around since twenty. Sixteen 543 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 13: i've actually been a member since twenty. Eighteen it was 544 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 13: a big part of my routine towards the end of my, 545 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 13: career just to help with my flexibility and, mobility which 546 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 13: helps to generate power as a, thrower a rotational, athlete. 547 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 12: All the things that you would lose with the aging. 548 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 12: PROCESS i was trying to stay ahead. 549 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 13: Of and keep an edge with to the point WHERE 550 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 13: i believed in it so much that WHEN i got done, 551 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 13: PLAYING i ended up being an investor In, ambassador sitting 552 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 13: on the board For Stretch, zone opening up franchises In 553 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 13: louisiana And. 554 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 12: Indiana and it's. 555 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 13: Amazing, OBVIOUSLY i know the impact it's had on me 556 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 13: and my career and just my overall training and. Health, 557 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 13: anecdotally you, know so many people of our, clients our, 558 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 13: customers feel the same. Way but now we're releasing a 559 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 13: research study that has pretty, amazing you, know results in 560 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 13: regards to like the true benefits of practitioner led stretching 561 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 13: Through Stretch. Zone up to ninety percent of people feel more, 562 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 13: energy have better range of, motion they sleep, better less, 563 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 13: pain back, pain hamstring, pain wherever you might be experiencing, 564 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 13: it and just being able to get back so many 565 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 13: things that maybe they thought they had, lost but the 566 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 13: practitioner led stretching through stretch one has been able to 567 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 13: give back to. Them so just an overall better quality but. 568 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 12: Life good for. 569 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 3: You congrats, Again always appreciate you joining. 570 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 12: Us thank, You, drew you, Too, Daran thanks, man great seeing, 571 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 12: You Drew. 572 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: Brees Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup 573 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: in the. Nation catch all of our shows at Foxsports 574 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: radio dot com and within The iHeartRadio app SEARCH fsr 575 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: to listen. 576 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 2: Live He's John, harball The giants head, coach who has 577 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 2: it better than we. 578 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: Do, NO. 579 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 9: I know the answer to that. 580 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: One, yes. 581 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: Yeah how often did your dad ask you that? Question? 582 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 9: OH i don't. Know it's like about every day right. 583 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 9: NOW i know. That but we got it, Young we. 584 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 9: Didn't we didn't understand it till. Later you. 585 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 14: Know it's one of those things that your parents tell 586 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 14: you that you kind of don't. Get you kind of 587 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 14: make fun. Of what is that everybody's got better than? 588 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 13: Us? 589 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 14: Dad it's, cold we're. Complaining whenever we. Complain that's what 590 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 14: we heard. 591 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 3: You take this, job let, me let me stay With 592 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: baltimore for a. 593 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 2: Moment how do you not take it personally when the 594 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: franchise doesn't want you? 595 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 3: Anymore, YEAH i. 596 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 9: Don't you do take it? 597 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 14: Personally, REALLY i MEAN i can't say that you. Don't 598 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 14: everything is. PERSONAL i mean. 599 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 9: Life is. 600 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 14: Personal you, know you pour your heart into what you 601 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 14: do every single. 602 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 9: Day it's meaningful and it. 603 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 14: Matters AND i know that everybody that we were with, 604 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 14: there who we love In baltimore all those, years would 605 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 14: say the same thing about what they did or about 606 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 14: us and everything like. That so, yeah you do take 607 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 14: it personal in a sense because it's a very personal. 608 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 9: Thing BUT i wasn't offended by. 609 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 14: It it Didn't it didn't make me, mad didn't make me. 610 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 9: Bitter it just was. 611 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 14: Disappointing but by the same, time it's, like you know, 612 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 14: what there's a plan for. Life there's a purpose in. 613 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 14: Life AND i believe IN i believe in our Almighty, 614 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 14: creator AND i believe. 615 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 9: This there's a reason that things. Happen and when when? When? 616 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 9: When that? When when The. 617 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 14: Lord above says, go it's time to. Go and that's 618 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 14: HOW i look at. It and he said go To 619 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 14: New york and here where we are so very excited 620 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 14: about that This we're right where we are supposed to 621 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 14: be at this particular point in. Time it's exactly the 622 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 14: place we're supposed to, be and that's What i'm excited. 623 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: About Mike rabel put a lot of pressure on coaches 624 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 2: taking over. Teams he turns the team around and goes 625 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: to The Super. Bowl uh can it? BE i, MEAN 626 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 2: i KNOW i was wondering about. That you, know you 627 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: don't get to ease into this, Job, John. 628 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 9: No, no it's. 629 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 14: Okay, hey you welcome the challenge if it's a national 630 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 14: football you, know but not for. 631 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 9: Long uh that it's time you. 632 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 14: Got it's time to produce day one. One and our 633 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 14: players expect, that our coaches expect. That we expect to 634 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 14: come out of the. Gates we're gonna come out of 635 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 14: The we're gonna come out of the corner. SWINGING i, 636 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 14: mean that's what we're gonna. DO i remember The Hearns hagler. 637 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 2: Fight, yeah When herds surprised everybody and just went all 638 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: in Against. 639 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: Hagler, yeah three. 640 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 14: ROUND i think it was a T ko maybe BY 641 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 14: i Think hagler won. It Maybe IF i REMEMBER i. 642 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 9: WAS i Loved. HAGLER i Loved. Tagler marvin if he's out, 643 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 9: THERE i love. 644 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 14: Him But Tommy hearns is my, guy the you, know 645 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 14: The MotorCity hit, Man Tommy hearns. 646 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 9: MAN i Love Tommy. Hearns. Uh he came out, swinging 647 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 9: so that's what we plan on. 648 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: Doing, yeah but he got knocked, Out so you don't 649 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: want to come out swinging like. 650 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 9: That we'll come out. Swinging we'll be throwing, punches you. 651 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 9: Know whatever happens. Happens but the chips, flying it's. Good. 652 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 3: Uh tougher DIVISION Afc north OR Nfc. 653 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 14: East, uh THE Ac north has been the tougher, division 654 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 14: you know over the last eighteen. YEARS i would say. 655 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 14: THAT i MEAN i was in. IT i know it 656 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 14: was tougher going forward now in the early in the 657 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 14: early two, thousands it was THE nf it was THE Nfc. 658 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,719 Speaker 9: EAST i was in. It then you know where it's. 659 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 9: At it's wherever you're. 660 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 3: At that's the toughest divisions wherever you. 661 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 14: Live and we'll be living in THE Nfc east and 662 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 14: it's a tough. DIVISION i, mean you got The eagles 663 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 14: who have been doing what they do for the last 664 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 14: number of. Years it's Like Michigan Ohio. State back in 665 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 14: the day When Bo shimmicker took over with my, dad 666 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 14: you had to Beat Ohio state if you were going 667 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 14: to be great At, michigan and that's what they did 668 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 14: the very first. Year and then The, cowboys The, cowboys The. 669 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 14: Commanders it's just great, rivalries incredible, stadiums huge fan, bases 670 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 14: nothing more to. You there's no more exciting division than 671 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 14: THE Nfc east and The New York Football. Giants you 672 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 14: know we're in it, Too so we planned to make a. 673 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 14: Statement we planned to be. There we planned to show 674 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 14: up for every single, Game, dan right on. 675 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: Time what was it about The giants job that attracted 676 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: you the? 677 00:31:55,280 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 14: MOST i think probably IF i was being honest about the. 678 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 14: Players the players are really important in. Football you gotta have, 679 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 14: players great players as a players. Game it always has 680 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 14: been a player's. Game it always will be a player's. 681 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 14: Game great coaches have taught me that over the. 682 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 9: Years, so but. 683 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 2: Having that franchise, quarterback how important was that? That if 684 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: you're you're surveying the situation, here of all the, openings 685 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: how important was it that you Had Jackson. 686 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 9: Dark, yeah it's start with the. 687 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 14: QUARTERBACK i mean the players started with the. Quarterback you 688 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 14: build a team around the. Quarterback THAT i looked at, that, 689 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 14: like the first THING i did was look at all the. 690 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 14: Quarterbacks and there are some good quarterbacks on these. Teams 691 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 14: But jackson was the guy that really excited me WHEN 692 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 14: i saw him now even more so being around him every. 693 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 14: Day we were in, here we were in here last. 694 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 14: Night he was hanging, out he's working. OUT i think 695 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 14: he worked out at nine. O'clock SO i saw him 696 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 14: around the building and talk some ball with. 697 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 9: Him so is. 698 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 2: Great what's the best piece of coaching? Advice your dad gave. 699 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 14: You the best piece of a coaching Advice our dad gave. 700 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 14: Us he, said you know what he. Said he, said 701 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 14: you gotta work really. Hard you gotta work harder than everybody. 702 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 14: Else he, goes BECAUSE i know you two, guys and 703 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 14: you're really not that. Smart you're probably not gonna smart, 704 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 14: anybody so you got to outwork. 705 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 9: People that's a direct. Quote that's exactly what he. 706 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: Said he, said you And jim were not, smart so 707 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 2: you got out work who's smarter between you. 708 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 14: Two jim's the smartest GUY i. Know jim's the Smartest 709 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 14: he's the smartest coach in the. League total credit To 710 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 14: jim for smart uh street, smart emotional, smarts knows how 711 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 14: to knows how to make, you knows how to make a, 712 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 14: statement make people feel a certain. 713 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 9: Way funny, Dude, yeah you know. 714 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 3: Him what do you do better than? HIM i? 715 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 12: Do? 716 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 14: UH i beat him in golf the last time we, 717 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 14: played but that was like ten years. Ago we refuse 718 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 14: to play each. Other we REFUSE i mean, golf we's 719 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,239 Speaker 14: got time for. It but what DO i do better Than? 720 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 14: JIM i look younger Than? 721 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 9: Jim right? Now can we all agree on? That neither 722 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 9: one of us are that. Young BUT i look younger than. 723 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,239 Speaker 3: Him, okay how? 724 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 9: Much what's the? 725 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 3: Age what's the age? 726 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 9: Difference i'm fifteen months. Older. 727 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 3: Okay And i'm sure you're reminding of. 728 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 9: That, see you would have never guessed, that, Right, pat 729 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 9: you would have. Guessed. 730 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: No, no just don't color your. Hair, okay, no you can. See, 731 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 2: No i'm just, saying just don't do. That, yeah you 732 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 2: look you you. Are you are very you look very. 733 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,720 Speaker 2: Distinguished you're a. Gentleman you, know you look very wise. 734 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 12: But. 735 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 2: Distinguished that's the gray hair that when you have gray, 736 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 2: hair You're you're, wise you're. 737 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: DISTINGUISHED i think it comes along with. 738 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 14: THAT i like the lumberjack shirt you're wearing. Too it's, 739 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 14: cozy it's buy your. Fireplace in the. Background who's got 740 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 14: a better than? 741 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: You damn, nobody, no. Nobody what you do for a? 742 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 9: Living one talking about crotch? Games stop, EVER i want that. 743 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 15: Job when did you reach out To mike. McDonald i 744 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 15: reached out to him after the, Game right after the. 745 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 15: GAME i started texting him right. AWAY i haven't able 746 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 15: to get him on the phone, yet BUT i. WILL 747 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 15: i Will jay. 748 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 14: Either they're, busy they've got parades to, do they got 749 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 14: chows to. 750 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 13: Do. 751 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 3: There, wait, wait he hasn't gotten back to you. 752 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: Yet he. 753 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 9: Hadn't he. Didn't. Wow you know he's been. Busy he's been, 754 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 9: busy but he's he's texted. Back he texted back right. 755 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 2: Away do you did you realize that he like he 756 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 2: was capable of doing this at a young age and 757 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: calling the defensive plays in The Super bowl as a head. 758 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 14: Coach, WELL i MEAN i hired him as a defensive 759 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 14: coordinator and the defensive play. 760 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 9: Caller so that was that's always the. Plan you, know 761 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 9: you want you. 762 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 14: WANT i want my defensive coordinator calling defenses in The Super. 763 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 14: Bowl that's definitely the. Goal and, uh there WERE i 764 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 14: never had any doubt About. Mike others. DID i, didn't 765 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 14: And mike, didn't you. Know And mike Is, Uh mike is, confident, 766 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,959 Speaker 14: smart just a good, person hard. 767 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 9: Worker he he's the. 768 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 14: Guy he's a hard worker and he, smart he's got 769 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 14: he's got two for two going. There so uh and 770 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 14: look look what. HAPPENED i, Mean i'm just so couldn't 771 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 14: be more proud of. Him and Also Jay, harbaugh our 772 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 14: nephew's a special teams. Coordinator they've won games on special, 773 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 14: teams multiple games because of special teams and because of 774 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 14: What jay's. Done so those, GUYS i, mean there's other. 775 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 14: Guys Leslie frasier's on that staff left For leslie is 776 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 14: such a great. Leader he's Helping. Mike so, yeah that's 777 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 14: an amazing job they've. 778 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 2: Done the kicker and the, PUNTER i, mean what a 779 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 2: what a weapon For. Seattle when you talk about a 780 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 2: total team effort to win A Super, bowl they had. 781 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: It they had. 782 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 13: It. 783 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 14: Unbelievable the trade for the returner who's also a receiver 784 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 14: at in this mid season there and people are like 785 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 14: scratching their head about that, trade and look at he 786 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 14: made a difference for. 787 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 2: Him when's the last time you talked to your quarterback 788 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 2: and your former? 789 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: Quarterback uh In. Baltimore. 790 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 14: Uh you know, what we've texted a number of. Times 791 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 14: we haven't talked on the, phone you, know just having 792 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 14: a chance to do. That BUT i haven't talked really 793 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 14: anybody on the. PHONE i had like over twenty five hundred, 794 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 14: texts which is. Crazy, No i'm down under, Three i'm 795 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 14: down under four. HUNDRED i haven't cracked getting back to. 796 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 14: People but it's been been. Amazing but now we. Texted 797 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 14: great love For, lamar really everybody there a great love for. 798 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 2: Him when you were first let, GO i had somebody 799 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: say right away that it'll be between the giants and 800 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 2: the falcons for, you that those were the two jobs 801 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: that you'd be interested. 802 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 3: In was that fair? 803 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 9: ACCURATE i was interested in both those, jobs but not 804 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 9: just those. 805 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 14: Two there was there were there WERE i talked to, 806 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 14: everybody and you really, Realize, dan when you talk to 807 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,360 Speaker 14: people in this, circumstance which you, KNOW i don't necessarily, 808 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 14: recommend but but it was really incredible to talk to 809 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,479 Speaker 14: the people at every, organization the, owners the, GM's uh team, 810 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,319 Speaker 14: presidents all that they. 811 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 9: Are there's so many great people in this. League you 812 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 9: go to the owners, meeting. 813 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 14: You've been, there and you get into that group that that. 814 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 9: Football is a, huge, huge you know, stage but it's 815 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 9: a small. Circle and you get in that group and 816 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 9: you and you realize, that you, know we all have 817 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 9: the same. Things we're all fighting the same, fights we're 818 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 9: all fighting the same, battles were all the same. Concerns 819 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 9: we're just trying to do our. 820 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 14: Best, families the kids are running around and you and 821 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 14: you feel that kind of sense OF i don't, know 822 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 14: just a shared understanding for what you. Do and then 823 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 14: you talk to them about their job and you realize 824 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 14: how important it is to them what they're trying to, 825 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 14: accomplish and you you try to visualize yourself in that 826 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 14: job with, Them and, REALLY i could visualize myself in 827 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 14: every one of those, jobs with every one of the 828 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 14: GROUPS i talked. To you really can do that because 829 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 14: there's so many good people and every job in this 830 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 14: league is. 831 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 3: Amazing what'd you do with Your ravens? GEAR i kept the. 832 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 9: LITTLE i kept a couple of, things some of the nicer. Stuff. 833 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 14: YEAH i kept a couple a couple uh uh quarter. 834 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 14: Zips uh kept a couple of championship. Hats what are 835 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 14: you going to do with? 836 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 3: Them? 837 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 14: Well, uh. SOMEDAY i you, KNOW i got a good 838 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 14: a good hoodie THAT i really. LIKED i kept that 839 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 14: an insulated hand. POCKET i don't. KNOW i, mean we'll 840 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 14: give me really good. Stuff all the other STUFF i, 841 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 14: TOSSED i MEAN i didn't TOSS i gave it to 842 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 14: friends And. Goodwill goodwill made it killing Good rod. Guy 843 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 14: we stopped accepting our stuff at one. Point we're not 844 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 14: not raven. Stuff but they took all The raven, stuff 845 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 14: but some of the other. Stuff they're, like we've had, 846 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 14: it we have, enough we don't want any. 847 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 3: More, congrats good luck. Man. 848 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 2: Thanks yeah's let's see if you can pull off Of 849 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: Mike rabel there with the g. 850 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 3: MEN i appreciate. 851 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 14: That, dan great ce as, always you're the. Best you're. 852 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 14: Awesome we did. It we did a. Show remember In, 853 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 14: minnesota we did a. Show. 854 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 2: Cola you did great with that Super bowl coverage because 855 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 2: you know you go in there and you're, like, ah 856 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 2: just tell me what to do And i'll answer the. 857 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 3: Questions when you. 858 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 2: Asked but we were outside there for a little while In, 859 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 2: minnesota and we spent you, know we spent some quality 860 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 2: time together. 861 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 14: There we did we we we we we had that 862 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 14: we didn't huddle close together to stay, warm but. 863 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 9: We could. Have it was, cold, Yes but you were 864 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 9: a great. Teacher you were a great, teacher a great. 865 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 9: Leader you were great at what you. Do i'm just 866 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 9: an honored to be on the show with, you. MAN 867 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 9: i appreciate. 868 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 3: It thank, you. Buddy who was it better than we? 869 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 9: Do, no. 870 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 3: Thank, you. Coach That's John harbal