1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Hi, Brian, Hi Katie. Well, I know you're really jazzed 2 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: about today's show because we get to talk about one 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: of our favorite shows on television, Veep. I love it. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: I love Julia Louis Dreyfuss. I love sort of the reality, 5 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: the faux reality of it all. And it's such a 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: great ensemble cast. Every last one of the people on 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: the show just knocks it out of the park week 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: after week after week. Do you agree? I do, And 9 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: especially Matt Walsh, who plays bumbling, innocent, sweet White House 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: Press secretary Mike McClintock. I just find him hilarious. He's 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: one of those people that you look at him, you 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: just want to laugh because it's a very funny mustache 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: that he's sporting in that show. Didn't he die said 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: mustache once? I think he did in a very early 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: episode sssfully yes to give him a little more youthful verse. 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: But Matt's a really interesting character in and of himself. 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: He's kind of a legend of the improv comedy world. 18 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: He helped to co found Upright Citizen's Brigade. His other 19 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: co founders included Amy Poehler, and he's had a fascinating career. 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: He was an early correspondent on The Daily Show. He's 21 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: appeared on a ton of sitcoms and in a lot 22 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: of movies. He was in The Hangover, he was in 23 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: that fine film called hung Was that? Was that a 24 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: film or a TV series? I think it was in 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 1: the four hundreds on my cable. I don't know ye 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: that that may be a different movie. But we're very, 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: very excited to have Matt Walsh on the show. So 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: here's Matt and Brian. Unfortunately, for me long distance, I 29 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: am very jealous because you have the very funny Matt 30 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Walsh sitting right next to you in Los Angeles. I'm 31 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: all the way in New York City out here in 32 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: l A. So we're very excited to have Matt on 33 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: the show. And Matt also very flattered because, as I 34 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: understand it, you actually expressed some interest in being on 35 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: the show. This has got to be a first. Did 36 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: you think you were doing the show and obscurity like 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: no one listens to it? Well, we're you know, you 38 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: never know out there in in uh podcast land. I'll 39 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: be don't take that. I thought you were Katie Holmes. 40 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: Last name is Kirk. I'm so sorry, so so sorry, 41 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: this is awkward, but you're gonna go forward with it anywhile. 42 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: I'm here, and I gotta get my parking validated, so 43 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: I might as well earn it. Yeah, we don't validate 44 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: unless you do the show. That's fair. Yeah that's like 45 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: seven eight bucks. Thank you, thank you very much. But 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: let's start. Can we start by talking about sort of 47 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: your career Matt, How you got into this comedy business 48 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: because you've you started the Upright Citizens Brigade. You're a 49 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: founding member, which is of course the famous improv comedy 50 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: theater that's become an institution the comedy world. At what 51 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: age did you realize, Hey, I'm kind of funny, I'd 52 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: like to go into comedy. I think my first performing 53 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: was in the senior Variety show in high school, where 54 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: we wrote sketches that made fun of teachers and we 55 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: were a big smash hit. And that was like sort 56 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: of when I got bit by the bug of like 57 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: writing and performing comedy. And then I took like one 58 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: acting class in college, and then my my last senior 59 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: year I went to Northern Illinois. I discovered this uh 60 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: improv class that was taught through Second City. So every 61 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: once a week, I would drive into this city and 62 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: that's when I really discovered, like, oh, improv comedy is 63 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: what I really want to do. And at the time, 64 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: I was like a psych major, so I was kind 65 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: of like when I got out of college, I worked 66 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: on a psych floor and then at night I was 67 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: doing sketch comedy. And let's working on a psych floor 68 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: is a good place to find sketch comedy, I guess, huh, yes, No, 69 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't mean that to be callous, but I'm just 70 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: saying it must be interesting. It was absolutely, and it 71 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: was a survival. You had to laugh, but it was 72 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: also you were sort of a wash with dysfunction when 73 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: you came home, and I think that trade is very difficult, 74 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: so I I stepped away from it. But there was 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: a lot of laughs there and there was a lot 76 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: of crazy stories that happened. Absolutely, So u c B 77 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: is kind of a murderers row of comedians. I mean 78 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: Amy Poehler helped to found it with you and as 79 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: He's and sorry and Ellie Kemper and Nick Roll or alums. 80 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: What makes that particular group different and special? I mean 81 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: I remember reading that you know in the u c B. 82 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: Ethos and improvisers should always be thinking about group mind 83 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: supporting the other performers. Is that different? I think one 84 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: thing we take pride in is we do have a 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: real curriculum, Like because we were all actors, we'd all 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: been in acting classes where you spend eight weeks and 87 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: the teacher says you're amazing, and then when you leave, 88 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: there's no takeaway. It's like I thought I is good, 89 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: but now I haven't learned anything. So we really made 90 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: a point to like academify what we were teaching. We 91 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: wrote a book, and so that's one thing I'm super 92 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: proud of is we really tried to get students takeaway 93 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: for their investment of time at the theater. And I 94 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: think in general, we're fortunate that people discovered uc BE. Like, 95 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily take credit for Nick Kroll or any 96 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: of these people being funny, but once they're plugged into 97 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: this community and they make these wonderful friendships and they 98 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: care about this art form, then they have the same 99 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: passion we do. And I'm and I'm happy that they 100 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: sort of got that bug the same way that I 101 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: got that bug. We created a gymnasium where people can 102 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: practice this art form and and get hooked on it. 103 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: And that's what makes me super proud. I love this 104 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: whole idea too, of caring about the group and really 105 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: kind of helping people out so that everybody can shine, 106 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: which seems to be quite different than the ethos obviously 107 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: of stand up comedy. I mean, how does that work 108 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: where you kind of want to be supportive of people 109 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: around you, and how does that affect your interactions? And 110 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: in prov, well, I think stand up is an art 111 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: form of say, critique, cultural, political, etcetera. And I think 112 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: improv is an art form of collaboration. And uh, I 113 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: personally like the anonymity of collaboration because you don't have 114 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: to you don't have to shoulder the burden. You're not 115 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: out in front solo, so I guess you can hide 116 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: inside a group art form. So that's particularly what I 117 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: liked about it. And also when you bomb that you 118 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: don't bomb. Yeah, you're not everybody bombs. You're not drinking 119 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: at a holiday inn and Madison, Wisconsin by yourself, You're 120 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: you're commiserating and making fun of the audience for not 121 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: getting how good you were. We have a clip of 122 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: you and some others on the anniversary of the U 123 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: C b um. You guys were on the Today Show, 124 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: so let's play that. WHOA Well, if you slipped on 125 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: people's couches, Yes, I couch hopped and I slept in 126 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: a before they cleaned up the guanas canal. It smelled 127 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: so bad I thought I had peed myself. One night 128 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: I woke up and it smelled so horrible, like, oh 129 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: my god, what happened? And it was just Brooklyn. It 130 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: was just Brooklyn coming in. And you walked a ton 131 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: of weight because you walked everywhere because it was too 132 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: expensive to them. We were legit poor, and so you 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: were legit poor. And and how did you kind of 134 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: get from there to actually making a living and doing 135 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: well as a as a comedian? What is the You 136 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: have friends? Like when we landed in New York, we 137 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: had several friends who worked and wrote on Conan O'Brien 138 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: and Saturday Night Live. So fortunately for us, our friends 139 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: were like, hey, come by for a day and do 140 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: a bit on Conan, or come by for a day 141 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: and do a short film on SNL. So we were 142 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: sort of plugged into opportunities when we landed, so that 143 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: truthfully helped pay the rent and forever grateful to a 144 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: lot of those people in those shows. Um and then 145 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: just being seen like it was word of mouth. It 146 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: was sort of still pre YouTube. Nine six is when 147 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: we landed in New York and so we were doing 148 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: shows seven nights a week, and people who cared about 149 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: comedy gave us props. And then I'll go and behold 150 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: we had shows with audiences. Meanwhile, you have been enjoying 151 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: being on FIVA. I'm sure it must be. I don't know, 152 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: is is that a dream come true for you, Matt 153 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: because it is such a great show and you have 154 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: such a hilarious character in Mike McClintock, the White House 155 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: Press secretary slash director of Communications for president no longer president, 156 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: but former president, former President Selina Myers. How much fun 157 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: is How relevant is that that the press secretary is 158 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: also the communications director because of course, in the real 159 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: life White House they couldn't get anyone to be the 160 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,599 Speaker 1: communications director, so Spicer is doing it. Mike McClintock was 161 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: terrible at his job years before Sean Spicer was on 162 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: the scene, so he is not an impersonation of Sean Spicer. 163 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: I'll say that much, but it's it is the it's 164 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: the best gig to be on a show where everybody's 165 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: funny and nice, and the writing is spectacular and Julia 166 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: is amazing, and to have people care about it, like 167 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: this year more than ever, I think people wanted to 168 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: laugh at politics. So there's real attention to sort of 169 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: the labor that you put into the show. And it's 170 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: also collaborative. They really want input, and we improvised in 171 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: rehearsals and we use they use our input to sort 172 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: of change the drafts and and make it better. So 173 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: it's it is a rare opportunity to be on a 174 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: really funny show and also have people watch that show. 175 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: It's so great. And here's a clip where Selena is 176 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: impersonating your character Might. Let's let's listen to this. Why 177 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: don't you just tell the truth? I don't sound like that. 178 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: That's exactly how you sound spot. Yeah, it's pretty close. 179 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't know where you get that impersonation. Now, was 180 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: that was that just a spontaneous thing or was that 181 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: part of the script. That's sort of a bit that 182 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: lived in the rehearsal room with Julia likes doing an 183 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: impression of Mike uh. And it is always I always 184 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: crack up when she does an impression of Mike, And 185 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: it just ended up one of the episodes, and I 186 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: think she's done it a couple of times, so I 187 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: always laugh when she does her impression of Mike. And 188 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: how much of this show is scripted versus stuff you 189 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: come up basically on her percent script and when we 190 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: get the set and we get our pages for that day. 191 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: The pages change every day, but once it's on the page, 192 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: there's room to rehearse it and tinker with it and 193 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: add jokes or say it in your own words, but 194 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty much on the page when we film it. 195 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: It's interesting on Veep, your character is kind of a 196 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: perpetual screw up, but he's also he's an innocent in 197 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: a way. And he's also a throwback to an earlier 198 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: time when I think you said this in one interview 199 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: you could just call more in doubt and fix something. 200 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: And of course now we live in a different world. 201 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: How much of Mike's struggle is that the media environment 202 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: has changed, and how much of it is that he's 203 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 1: just kind of a blunderbuss to use a word from Veep. 204 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: Uh he. I think in the beginning it was a 205 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: result of the fast pace change of how the media 206 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: was moving. And then I think in reality he might 207 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: be a good speechwriter, like he probably is good with 208 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: you know, prose, but he is a little too childlike 209 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 1: to be at the head of a communications department. He's 210 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: easily distracted. I like him because he's so earnest, you know, 211 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: and he's really trying to do a good job, and 212 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: yet he's just so clueless at the same time. And 213 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: I also love his relationship with Katheen to Jimmy, who's 214 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people in the world. She is 215 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: so funny and they had I mean, you must, you must, 216 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: you guys must laugh all the time doing that show? 217 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: Or is that just how I imagine it to be? No, 218 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: it is, I mean it's it is like a lot 219 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: of work. I mean it's good work. It's the best 220 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: job in the world, but we do put a lot 221 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: of effort into making it seem sloppy and naturalistic and real. Um. 222 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: But Cathy is awesome. She's really funny, and I think 223 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: that's the first time I ever worked with her was 224 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: on our show, but I always look forward to doing 225 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: scenes with her. She's a great wife. Has it been hard, uh? 226 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: Matt for you all this season to be out of 227 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: the White House, because were you at all worried that 228 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: the show might lose its mojo by taking you all 229 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: not only out of Washington, but kind of splitting up 230 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: the gang. One of the things I love about VEEP, 231 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: and I think it comes from the sort of British 232 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: DNA Armandoina Iannucci created the show, and like I think 233 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: two years in or maybe the third season, she was 234 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: president and the show was still called VEEP. Like they're 235 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: willing to change and re contextualize the show. Every season. 236 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: They'll throw a whole scripts out and just write it 237 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: from scratch. Like they they keep it fresh and they 238 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: don't feel like, oh we we can't violate this or 239 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: can't violate that. And that's what I love about VEEP. 240 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: So when they they knew Selena, David said many times 241 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: and Julia I would agree, is that Selena has to lose. 242 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: It's always funnier when she's beaten up, and so you 243 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 1: knew they knew she was going to lose that electoral 244 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: college tie. I think it's fortunate for the show that 245 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 1: we're not in DC because it's such a nightmare right 246 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 1: now and people would be it would be hard to 247 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: heighten beyond what is coming out of d C in 248 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: real life. So I think I think it benefits us 249 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: and I do think like bringing the band back together, 250 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: it is a writing challenge because it is we all 251 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: started in our own orbits. But I think as the 252 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: show has gone on, I always say, like in the beginning, 253 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: we were sort of swimming and Selena's wake, following her 254 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: around hallways in d C. And as each season has 255 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: gone on, you know, Mike gets married, everyone builds a 256 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: life outside of it. Dan's on the news now. I 257 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: think they've made the show bigger and bigger, and but 258 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: it is fun to see how they pull us back 259 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: in and how the old faces come back in for 260 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: one more, you know, putting the band back together. But well, 261 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: let's can we catch up with some of the characters, 262 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: because it is fun to see, you know, what everybody 263 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: is up to. As you said, Dan has landed a 264 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: gig anchoring the CBS morning show that I do. I 265 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: wanted to say congratulations Mozl Dan to you, and I 266 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: think he as an excellent job. Did you have to 267 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: get permission from CBS to do that? I'm assuming you did. 268 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: It's a great question. I don't know, but I had 269 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: the same reaction watching it, like because I don't I'm 270 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 1: not in the room when they filmed those, like I'm 271 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: not in the morning show set, But I'm like, how 272 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: did they get? I feel the same How did they get? 273 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: CVS is blessing? They must have assented to that, but 274 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: isn't it? Is it sat higher like the two comedians 275 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: have more leeway, I guess, but it's it is a 276 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: world with bigger egos and even sharper knives than Washington, 277 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: I guess. So they successfully found one like that. Well, 278 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: we have a clip of an exchange between Dan and 279 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: his co anchor Jane, played by Margaret Colin. They cracked 280 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: me up, and of course this was my world for 281 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: many years, as you know, Matt. So we pulled a 282 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: clip of her talking and I had to laugh at 283 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: this because I think it's the anchor woman's sphere that 284 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: a younger, more attractive woman is coming just around the 285 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: corner to take her job. Let's listen, Yes, Danny, I 286 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: know that we're not actually fucking because you're not a 287 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: billionaire and I don't want to catch anything. Okay, well, 288 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: then maybe you can call the post and tell them 289 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: these rumors about us are complete bullshit, because this is 290 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: like do we blows Truman here? Dah? If I stop 291 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: being funkable, then I am grandma. And if I'm Grandma, 292 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: I will be replaced by two tips with a degree 293 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: from American University over there. I thought that was so funny. 294 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: I love the American University jokes. It reminds me of 295 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: the what was the Goldie ham line about their three 296 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: ages for women in Hollywood Babe, District attorney and driving 297 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: Miss Daisy. Maybe that's true if anchor people too, and 298 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: the farewell when did you are you caught up? I'm 299 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: not caught up yet? Spoil anything? No? No, I think 300 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: the idea is we're spoiling people who haven't seen like 301 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: the beginning of the sixth season. But if you haven't 302 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: finished it, we're not going to spoil. You've got some 303 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: good stuff ahead for you can definitely, I'm so excited. 304 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. Meanwhile, Jonah is using his cancer to 305 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: help his political career. That's so cynical, isn't it. Mad Yes, 306 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: and he's like the most hated man in Washington, sort 307 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: of all a Ted Cruz. Yes, that would be a 308 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: close Yeah, you would be a close comparison. One of 309 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: the things I really love about the show is how 310 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: much of it is drawn from real life and real 311 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: history or sort of a twist or a parody on history. 312 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember in the season finale of last season, 313 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: the new president gets credit for freeing Tibet when it 314 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: was really Selena who had been sort of working furiously 315 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: with the Chinese, very much like Jimmy Carter with the 316 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: Iranian hostages. And of course Reagan got credit for freeing 317 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: them the day that he was sworn into Yes, that 318 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: is I'm sure it was inspired. They do the writers, 319 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: you know, every year do field trips to d C 320 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: and try to get the nitty gritty stories behind, you know, 321 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: how things are made or what you know, what went down. 322 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: And I think this year they interviewed Romney for a 323 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: few hours, like he came to the writer's room and 324 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: told her. Yeah that he told him what it was 325 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: like to lose an election and how you build yourself up. 326 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: And so they really do their research before they start 327 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: like structuring the season. And I remember reading in one 328 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: of these episodes that when you talk to Romney, you 329 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: recognized how much he had this big support system of 330 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: family and friends and business to sort of catch him 331 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: when he fell after the loss, and you guys just decided, Okay, 332 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: well what would it be like to lose without any 333 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: of that? And that's what we're going to make Selena 334 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: go through. Yeah. Selena is terrible to her daughter, She's 335 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: terrible to everyone. So it's actually quite fun to see 336 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: her way at the bottom. It is fun to have 337 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: to to have a character that is so unlikable and 338 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: yet so popular. Yeah, what is it about her? You know, 339 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 1: I've been told a few times maybe I should be concerned. 340 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: Matt and Brian, Please do not confirm this that I 341 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: remind people of Selena. Oh, oh my god. You do 342 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: not want that comparison. Oh my god. I think it's 343 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: sometimes because there's a flurry of activity around me. Sometimes 344 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what that makes me. You're Gary. I 345 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: sometimes I hand my first to Brian and say, Gary, 346 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: come on, make it snappy. Yeah, do you want some 347 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: rose hip? Ti Katie. But we're going to take a 348 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: break because I want to talk to Matt Walsh Moore 349 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: about political reality versus beat. And that's right after this. 350 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: Sean Spicer versus Mike McClintock. How do you assess the 351 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: two together? That's the question. Uh, Mike actually at the 352 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: podium in the press room is competent at his job. 353 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: Sean Spicer is not. So my advice to Sean Spicer 354 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: has quit, like, you should quit your job. I understand 355 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 1: that he seems like someone who's been knocking around d 356 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: C forever and he's finally in the spotlight, and people 357 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: like that I want to hang on to whatever little 358 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: power they have, but it's a terrible administration, and have 359 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: some respect for yourself and quit that job. And what 360 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: about the argument that some people make them that they 361 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: should stay in the administration because they're a force for good, 362 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: or if they were to leave, they'd just be replaced 363 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: by somebody worse in that position. No, you're not. You're 364 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: a puppet. You're you're a mouthpiece for a liar and 365 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: a corrupt administration. So I don't see you affecting anything. 366 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: I guess if you're an advisor inside there and you 367 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: stick to your values, if you're Maddest or somebody like that, 368 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: I guess you could make that argument. Yeah, Like, thank god, 369 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: I'm trust me, guys, thank god, I'm in the room. 370 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: Believe me, Believe me. The alterna, I just wait till 371 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: the President's attention goes away, and we still do what 372 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: we want to do. Like sure, I'm glad that guy's 373 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: or that woman is there. Sure, And why do you 374 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: think Sean Spicer stays around? I honestly feel like the 375 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: way our show is a workplace comedy, so you get 376 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: to see beyond Selena. You get to see the lives 377 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: of the advisors and the you know, every schedulers and 378 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: press secretaries, et cetera. And I think those people hang 379 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: on because to be in the White House is the 380 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: big show. Like that's what you want. You want that 381 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: a list power. And so I think once you get it, 382 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: your whole behavior, you've been inching towards this thing, and 383 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: all your decisions and all your cutthroat sort of moves 384 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: have gotten you in this position. I think you're just 385 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: out of instant cling to it. And I also think people, 386 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: and I think you can even see it in veep 387 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: in a way, how insulated the world becomes and how 388 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: these people become your family and you have very little 389 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: interaction outside this world because it basically sucks the oxygen 390 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: out of your entire being. You can see how almost 391 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: both intoxicating and suffocating that can be. Yeah, and yeah, 392 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: I think there's like history, you know, for Mike, there's 393 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: some loyalty there. He's been with her for twenty years 394 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: and I'm sure in the early days it was friendly 395 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: and fun and now it's just like routine or whatever. 396 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that it is. Uh, what else 397 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 1: would you do? Could you really just unplugged and start 398 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: a nursery in Santa Barbara or something? I don't think so. 399 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: These people are animals. We talked about Sean Spicer a 400 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: moment ago, and we have a clip where Spicer's Spicies 401 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: American flag pin is upside down and the press court 402 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: tells him during a press conference, lets let's have not 403 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: heard thank you for this and with that, I'd be 404 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: glad to take your questions. John Mark, John Robert's always 405 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: helping with the fashion tips upside one of them. There's 406 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: a stress. I appreciate that. Thank you. There's no promless 407 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: your questions, Jesus. That's my favorite line of the whole thing. See, 408 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: that's like we would have conversations like that in the room, 409 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: like is that too bad? Like is that not believed. 410 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: Would Mike really get on the podium with that. It's remarkable. 411 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: We also have another clip that I want to play 412 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: of Mike and Jonah talking about one of my personal favorites, 413 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: a song from the Civil War called Yeah, let's listen 414 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: to that. Oh my gosh, sing me a song just 415 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: spin the old dial on radio with Clintock. See what 416 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: it lands on. Really, I don't know, goober peas, I 417 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: have no fucking idea what that is. It's an old 418 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: Civil War song for real? Yeah, perfect, It's like a 419 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: history lesson. Hit me up County No. Five six seven. 420 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: When a horseman passes, soldiers have a rule they cry 421 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: at their loudest mr, where's your mule? A little twanging it. 422 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: But another pleasure, more enchanting er than these is wearing 423 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: at your grunders eating Google. Pease, please, please pease. We 424 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: were trying to get a public domain song for that 425 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: moment on the set, and I was remembering my childhood 426 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: and I learned that song. I'm like, that's got to 427 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,239 Speaker 1: be public domain. So I pitched that song. And in 428 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: spite of all this absurdity, every Washington pro I ever 429 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: talked to says, this is the most authentic show about 430 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: politics today. I mean, how scary is that it really is? 431 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: Because it's important business and to realize that the buffoons 432 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: we play, our reflection of what happens in d C 433 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: is scary. Yeah. By the way, I have a total 434 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: girl crush on Julia Louis Dreyfuss. I'm sure I'm not alone. Mike. Uh, 435 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: we're friendly, um, believe it or not. My late husband, 436 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: I think did some business with her dad and I 437 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: actually was looking at some photographs last night when we 438 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: were on the Seinfeld set when I was interviewing her 439 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: and Jerry for their final episode, or at least I 440 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: think at the height of the popularity of that show, 441 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: which I don't think ever dwindled. But what does she 442 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: like to work to dubs? She was a guest on 443 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: this podcast. Oh that's true. Yes, I definitely I traded 444 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 1: on our friendship and brought her here. She would be 445 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: on our podcast as well. But what does she like 446 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: to work with? Because she seems like she's such a 447 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: a brilliant comedian, needless to say, but also a really 448 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: generous coworker. She is, Uh, Julia is the best. She 449 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: keeps it real, she's fun, she's friendly. When we lived 450 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, we used to shoot, you know, four seasons 451 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: we were there, there was more downtime, and she would 452 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, she was she was a good like mom, organized, 453 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: she would host card parties or she would She's great 454 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: and she's so talented. What's the worst thing about Julia 455 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: Louie d the worst thing, the single most horrible quality. 456 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, it doesn't make sense. That's a good 457 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: that's a good press secretary. I can't think. Uh No, 458 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: she's really great and she's very like nice and normal 459 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: and kind and super talented, Like she really sets the 460 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 1: tone for the show, and she is I definitely have 461 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: learned a ton, you know, working with her. She really 462 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: is one of the best I've ever worked. What have 463 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: you learned? Oftentimes, when you have a joke on the page, 464 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: you're as an actor, you're sort of racing to get 465 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: to that punchline. You know, your instinct is like, I 466 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: just gotta get through this so I can say the joke. 467 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: And she is so good at like taking these little 468 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: detours on the way to the joke, so like relishing 469 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: the set up and finding little comic moments in the 470 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: setup of the joke that was sort of a revelation 471 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 1: that doesn't speak highly of me, perhaps, but things like 472 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: that or just she has sort of an unbelievable quest 473 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: for specific in any scene, whether it's I'm gonna write 474 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: my I'm gonna sign these bills, like what's the pen? 475 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,959 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? Like, she really loves 476 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: the specifics, and I think that is another thing I'm 477 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: amazed by. Now less people think that she's the only 478 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: superstar on this show. I noticed in the g Q 479 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: profile of you, Matt that that this paragraph, that this 480 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: paragraph was written and appeared. It's within the improv world 481 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: that he's most recognized mobbed even outside of the theater. 482 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: He's the Pope and Harry Styles combined. He is the 483 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: Sun and everyone else has been granted life by his 484 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: mirror existence, and this makes him feel awkward. So I 485 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: didn't realize that you were zeus in a particular setting, 486 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: well in the improv world, because I started a theater 487 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: that people care about in a school that people care about. 488 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: It would be like I when I lived in New York, 489 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: I actually found an apartment above our theater. So it's 490 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: imagine like the dean of the college living in front 491 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: of the buildings. So every day when you walk in 492 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: your door, students want to talk to you and ask 493 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: you about this art form. So in that world, I 494 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: do have status, Yes I do. Meanwhile, let's let's let's 495 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about sort of the chatter on the set 496 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: about the current administration and really among your friends and 497 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: family members. I mean, what do you make of Donald Trump? 498 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: What would we have to talk about? By the way, 499 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: pro Trump on't but but I mean, are you all 500 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: just every day, almost on an hourly basis, scratching your 501 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: heads or shaking your heads. Well, the context of it, 502 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: we we're on set the night of this the previous 503 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: year's election in November, we were on set and it 504 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: got gloomier and gloomier. We, like everyone suspected Hillary is 505 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: probably gonna win. And so that was like the beginning 506 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: of the Trump era. Penetrate our show, and they didn't 507 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: change any of the storylines. Her being out of d 508 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: C was turned out to be a blessing. And then yeah, 509 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody, the writers and the consultants on this 510 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: show are super smart. And of course every day we're 511 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: hearing about what came out of d C. The last moment, 512 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: and uh, there is an obsession with the insanity. I 513 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: have no insight into how terrible it is and how 514 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: we can survive it other than you know, we just 515 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: try to make the show funny and focus on small 516 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: acts of kindness. I don't know, Like I can't dissect. 517 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: It's a disaster. I mean, I'm completely fucking disappointed in 518 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: so many ways. And in the nature of common decency 519 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 1: has been erased, and the tradition of the office has 520 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: been erased, and it's the acceptance of lies as standard procedure. 521 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: It's not even so much of his policies. I couldn't 522 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: even tell you how he lands on them. It's more 523 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 1: the tradition of like reason has been ignored. It's interesting 524 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: so much of what seemed farcical and ridiculous on the 525 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: show has sort of come to pass in real life. 526 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember one episode in which Selena was 527 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: live tweeting, and that was just absurd. I mean, a 528 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: president couldn't be live time. We're trying to get into 529 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: the situation room to knock the phone out of there exactly, 530 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: and now that wouldn't even be People would watch that 531 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: moment now and be like, why is why are they 532 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: so scared of a tweet? Like what does that mean? 533 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: It does? Like there are things that have changed and 534 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: maybe next year, well I don't know what the stories 535 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: are going to be, but maybe next year we'll have 536 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: to consider uh. But again, we they the show the 537 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: last president, we references Reagan. So they try and you 538 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: never see people like Anderson Cooper Wolf Blitzer walk into 539 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: our world. So they really try to cling to that 540 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: bubble of fiction because it gives us more latitude and 541 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 1: hopefully makes it show more timeless, I think. And they 542 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: never they never mentioned it what political party Selena is? 543 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: For example. Yeah, and that's why Publicans and Democrats like 544 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: our show, like they oftentimes think, you know, they're making 545 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: fun of the other party. You know, they don't see 546 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: themselves in it, like way to skewer the Republicans and like, 547 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: well we're kind of getting everybody actually, But okay, okay, 548 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: but what party do you really think Selena is? I 549 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, you could go through her issues 550 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: and probably find her somewhere. Do I have a hunch? 551 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think I'll say that? What 552 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: do you think she is? What do I think she is? 553 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: If she had to be one party. What party would 554 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: she be? I tend to think she's a Democrat, but 555 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: maybe I'm biased by the fact that in real life 556 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: all the people playing these characters or Democrats, and so 557 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: I tend to think of them like Democrats. I'm not 558 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: sure that she's actually put forward a policy that would 559 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: reveal one way or the other. Although she sort of 560 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: did that Job's program. Yeah, that that seemed a little 561 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: bit more big government had early on some green energy programing, 562 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: so those would be more progressive. Yeah, she's more progressive. Sure, 563 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: I just want to say it so HBO doesn't fire 564 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: me or something like that. I'm such a company man. 565 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: Do you think there's something about women in politics, and 566 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: particularly a woman as president that drives a lot of 567 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: the humor and criticism. I mean a lot of people 568 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: are now looking at this in the wake of Hillary's loss. 569 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: Rebecca trey Stir wrote an interesting piece in New York Magazine, 570 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: also former guest on this show, about you know I 571 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: sound like I'm just played. Yeah, I know, somebody's got to. 572 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: Katie mentioned that today's show interview with Julia not even 573 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: our podcast. But I'm sorry, but to what extent do 574 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: you think we still hold female political leaders to a 575 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: different standard. Oh my gosh. Uh, well it is still 576 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: a novelty unfortunately, Like I don't think we've had a 577 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: female vice president office, and we haven't had a female president, 578 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: so it is fiction right now. So I think that 579 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: was the impetus for the show when Armando and Julia 580 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: got together, is like, you know, she's a woman in office, 581 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: but also she's in the worst office, which is vice president. 582 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: But that's a big question, like, well, do you think 583 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the humor comes from women being judged 584 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: and treated differently. I mean I remember somebody saying that 585 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: if you're a woman in politics and you're too strong, 586 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: you're a bit and if you're two weak, well you're 587 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: just too weak and you can't be elected to an 588 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: executive job, and so finding that sweet spot in between 589 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: is almost impossible. That's a good point. I mean, sure 590 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: women are definitely held to hire standard of course in politics. 591 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: And I think it's funnier too for Julia to be 592 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: filthy and talk like a sailor because she's an attractive woman, 593 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: Like I think there's something inherently funnier about that, Like 594 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: if you saw a gruff heavy set man with booze 595 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: on his breath saying those things. It's almost more expected, 596 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: so us they do play with the convention of like 597 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: the stuff you're speaking to. Yeah. On the other hand, 598 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: she's so ridiculously self involved, in so vain, so narcissistic. Then, 599 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: you know, do you ever worry that having those qualities 600 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: kind of underscore what some people fear is more present 601 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: in women than in men, even though we all know 602 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: that's bullshit. So do you think people will see the 603 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: show and because she's such a narcissist and so vain, 604 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: they might associate all women with that portrayal, or you know, 605 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: somehow it will be subversively it doesn't help. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, 606 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I mean I guess that is a possible interpretation. 607 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: What uh boy, These are good questions. I wish I 608 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: was smarter, and they ultimately feel like, I mean, Selena 609 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: is terrible to women. Selena hates women. She does. She's 610 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: so brutal, mean to women, And you can go through 611 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: the episodes and like and obviously her daughter, she has 612 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: a terrible relationship with her daughter. Ay, yeah, Amy, She's 613 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: brutal to Amy, like she's brutal to everyone. Gary and 614 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 1: she's scared of Sue. She's scared of Sue. She's scared 615 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,240 Speaker 1: of Sue. Yeah, but I think it's awesome that whatever. 616 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: Julia is so funny and she's at the head of 617 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: a funny show, Like I would think that does more 618 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: good for the cause than uh works against it. How 619 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: about that for an answer. I think that's a good answer. 620 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: So what would you like to do, Matt, You've got 621 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: this pretty good gig going. Um, are there things that 622 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: you'd like to do? Um? In addition to continuing with Beep, Yeah, 623 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: I always tend to do a movie or two in 624 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: the summer's off. I've directed two small, like improv movies. 625 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: I'll probably direct another one. I'm writing a couple of 626 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: things that are like features. So yeah, I I enjoy 627 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: doing movies. You have riggsby Bear coming out, We have 628 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: bragsby Bear coming out. Thank you for the plug that 629 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: comes out at the end of July. We will you 630 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: did that with SNL cast member Kyle Mooney, Deaths Right. 631 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: I did that one, and then Feudal and Stupid Gesture 632 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: comes out sometime this year, which is about the Lampoon, 633 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: the evolution of the Lampoon magazine into the thing it 634 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: became and all the people who came through that world. 635 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: That's really cool. And I was very interested to see 636 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: that you have a starring role in a rom com 637 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: called Under the Eiffel Tower. Tell me about that, Matt Well. 638 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: Someone a couple of years ago said I have a 639 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: movie you could be the lead, and we're going to 640 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: film in France, and I was like, can I bring 641 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: the family? And didn't even read it. So with that premise, 642 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: it's taken two years of indie you know, indie films, 643 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: scraping for money, writing out people quitting. But lo and behold, 644 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm going in July to Paris to film a movie 645 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: and I'm bringing the kids and Morgan, my wife's comming. 646 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: And what's a movie about. It's about out a bourbon 647 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: salesman played by me, who makes the mistake of proposing 648 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: to this family friend, this woman who's only like twenty 649 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: six or twenty seven, just out of grad school, and 650 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: that just goes south from there. He's on a drinking bender, 651 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: hooks up with this rugby player and then meets a 652 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 1: woman who wants a vineyard and they fall in love. 653 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: Oh that sounds so fun. Yeah, it is fun. It's 654 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: glamorization of French culture, which we Americans love to see 655 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: on film. And there's some funny people David Wayne and mckello, 656 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: Watkins and Gary Cole so well Gary Cole. So you 657 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: have a little reunion with Gary Cole. Yes, Gary's a friend, 658 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: a legit friend, so yes, he will be out there. 659 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: So we're all sort of psychic, you know, go overseas 660 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: and relax for a while. I love him on V 661 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: two because he's such a great character. He's so funny, 662 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: and you know, I grew up with him and weird like, well, no, 663 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with him. I grew up. I 664 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 1: grew up watching him. Sorry, I grew up watching him 665 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: and he used to play very dark characters. And to 666 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: see him, to see him really flex his comedy muscles 667 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: is so much fun to me. The other guy I 668 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: love and veep Matt is the kind of he looks 669 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: very much like a political operative. Kevin Dunn. I love 670 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: Kevin Dunn. He is so great. He comes up with 671 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: the funniest one liners. He talks about his nuts a lot. 672 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: I do notice that Katie's always partial to a good 673 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: testicle joke. You're his demo Katie, you're hey, wait, wait, no, 674 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: Kevin's amazing, So it's Gary. Those guys were like Chicago 675 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: actors when I was in the city, so they're like 676 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 1: real Thespians as well as being super hilarious, funny human beings, 677 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: you know. And speaking of super hilarious, by the way, 678 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: the episode when I told friends of mine that I 679 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: was talking to you that came up the most was 680 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: the Master Cleans. Oh really, yes, that's so funny, which 681 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: was hysterical. Oh no, breakfast for this guy who's offering 682 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: you are looking at a guy on the Master Cleans. 683 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,240 Speaker 1: I feel amazing. What the lunatics fuck is the Master Cleans? 684 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: It sounds like Nazi domestic policy. Yeah, it was last season. 685 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: You wanted to describe what's happening. Mike is on a 686 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 1: Master Cleans and he's like sort of fasting and just 687 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: drinking like lemon cayenne, maple syrup, one of those things. 688 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: And uh, I give the writer's knew someone, but apparently 689 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: you have to like drink it every fifteen minutes or 690 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,280 Speaker 1: you will literally crash on your glue faint. You'll just faint. 691 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: So Mike forgot to bring his bottle to the podium 692 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: and was like losing his mind. And just during the briefing. 693 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: During the briefing, Julia has this great line where she 694 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: where she walks in the room after the the juice 695 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: had been spilled, and she said, it smells like Puerto 696 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: Rico in here, which is probably vaguely racist, but I 697 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: was funny. Yeah. Anyway, Well, it's so fun to talk 698 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: to you, Matt and listen. Thank you for you and 699 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: the whole VAT crew for entertaining us, uh season after 700 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 1: season and it's a real highlight of of my Sunday 701 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: night and uh. And it's so great because you can 702 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: binge watch Beep, which is something that my husband and 703 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: I often do. So yeah, it's only a half hour, 704 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 1: Come on, you can you can watch a whole season 705 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 1: in one sitting, practically. Thank you so much for coming 706 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: by next time. I hope I get to see you 707 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: in person. I thank you with the premiere. Yes, we 708 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: did years years back and that premiere, but that's okay. 709 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: We didn't have a premier this year. We didn't have 710 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: a premiere this year. Maybe next year, you guys, if 711 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: we have a premiere, I'll try to get one of 712 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: you in. It'll probably go to Katie. You get it though, Yeah, 713 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: she's old friends with Juliet's a Gary, always a Gary. 714 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: Thanks Matt, thank you, Thanks a huge thank you to 715 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,280 Speaker 1: our great team that helps make this show happen every 716 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: time we do it. Our producer Gianna Palmer, our sound 717 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: engineers Jared O'Connell in New York and Ryan Conner in 718 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: l A. And Alison Bresnik, who slays our social media. 719 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,760 Speaker 1: Also Emily Beena of Katie Kirk Media and Nora Ritchie 720 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: who always provides great extra editorial support. And Mark Phillips 721 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: whoever you are, wherever you are. Thank you as always 722 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: for our terrific theme music. Katie Kurrik and I are 723 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: the executive producers of this show and folks, please drop 724 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: us a line. You can leave a voicemail at nine 725 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: to nine to two four four six three seven or 726 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: email us at comments at current podcast dot com. We 727 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: really do read the comments and listen to the comments. 728 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: As for social media, I'm at Goldsmith B on Twitter. 729 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: Katie is all over the social sphere at Katie Kurrik 730 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram, Katie dot Kurrik on Snapchat, which 731 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: is on Facebook. She is everywhere. I'm everywhere, and I 732 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: tried to do a social media detox, and what can 733 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: I say, You're falling off the wagon. You're pretty addicted. 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