1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Saw 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: it ahead, he got jacked. 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: and Gilbert Terry's gonna score touchdown. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 3: Slim to the ground by Buddha Baker. Like a torpedo, 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 3: he keeps flying into the back. 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 1: Deal the Rage. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: It's brought to you by santan Ford and Gilbert. 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Visit Azycardinals dot com Slash podcast. 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 5: All right, Sea is rising up, dude, You're rising vision 15 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 5: Flurry Rage take you over. 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 6: I'm one hundred percent ready. 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm ready. 19 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 6: And Ron Wolfley. 20 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 4: It doesn't get any better than that. 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 6: The field you know here in March College hoops isn't 22 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 6: the only madness around here. You're kidding me. How about 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 6: NFL free agency the frenzy? That was right? I mean, 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 6: forget about building your sixty eighteen bracket. Wolf Can you 25 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 6: build a fifty three man roster and without using BPI 26 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 6: or chat GPT or however you cheat over there when 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 6: you're filling out your bracket. 28 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 6: And it's not just about spending either, it's about spending wisely. 30 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 6: As we know in the Cardinals so far are in 31 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 6: the top ten of free agent expenditures this offseason. A 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 6: lot to talk about it is the Big Red Rage 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 6: presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford, 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 6: Paul calvic here, and welcome back to Ron Wolfley. There, 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 6: Wolf how are we doing. 36 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: And we're doing really really well, PAULI thank you very much. Man. 37 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this free agent period for the Arizona Cardinals. 38 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, they checked a lot of boxes so far. So 39 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 6: let's just start at the very top. What stands out 40 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 6: to you the most. We got some big names and 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 6: some big dollars being spent as well. 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, once again, for me, it's about the 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. When you're talking about Manti ausin Fort 44 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: and you're talking about JG specifically JG. Man, he loves 45 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 1: that dominance on the line of scrimmage. It's one of 46 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: the things I appreciate the most about him. Now that 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that Jag doesn't want playmakers and guys who 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: are skilled and talented. Of course, he wants that like 49 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: every other coach. But for me, there is a real 50 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: philosophy on this football team that football is played from 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, from the line of scrimmage the 52 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: snap of the ball out. I agree with that philosophy, 53 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: and I love the fact they went out and they 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: addressed a real need getting Josh Sweat of course to 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: line up on the edge, and Delvin Tomlinson. Those two 56 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: guys specifically, I think really increased the Arizona Cardinals front 57 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: seven and make it one of the deepest front sevens 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: that we've seen the Cardinals have in maybe ten twelve years. 59 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 6: And you know what we're gonna hear from Dalvin Thomlinson 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 6: in a moment. Let me give you a quick thought 61 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 6: on Josh Sweat. Last week, we had a chance to 62 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 6: interview him right here in the Big Red Rage. Our 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 6: last question was about that whole narrative that the Eagles 64 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 6: defense is so talented that it's like the rising tide 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 6: that lifts all boats. And his response, I thought was interesting. 66 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 6: He said, Hey, yeah, we were talented, but let's not 67 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 6: forget I led that defense in sacks. But at the 68 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 6: same time he said, I did that despite the fact 69 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 6: that we sacrifice for each other. That's how we won, 70 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 6: that's how we got a Lombardi Trophy in a ring. 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 6: And so if you think about that, he's only had 72 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 6: double digit sacks once in his career, is when JG 73 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 6: was a defensive coordinator. But a lot of people think 74 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 6: he still has a lot of upside. Now that you 75 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 6: get him away from all that talent, he could be 76 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 6: featured a little more. He'll get even more snaps and 77 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 6: he'll be able to be featured a little bit more 78 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 6: by Nick Rowsis what do you think about that? 79 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, No, there's no doubt about it. Josh I 80 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: think is a guy that is still finding his ceiling. Yeah, 81 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: that's what I think. I honestly think he still has 82 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: room to grow. Right now, you were talking about it. Yeah, 83 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: get I get the fact that he's been in the league. 84 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: This is going to be his eighth year coming up here. 85 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: But he's only twenty seven years old. Paul, Yeah, only 86 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: twenty seven years old. If you look at it, the 87 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: last three or four seasons of Josh Sweat, he really 88 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: is developing he's kind of a late bloomer. To me, 89 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: he's been a late bloomer. He's developing right now. I 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: still think his ceiling is in front of him. Now. 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: Now once again, you know who knows he's got to 92 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: go do it, Pauli, There's no doubt about that. But man, 93 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: the fact that you've got a bonafide edge guy, a 94 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: guy that I just want to say this, a guy 95 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: that had two and a half sacks in the Super Bowl, 96 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: pul I just just like saying that two and a 97 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: half sacks in the Super Bowl. Would you say that 98 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: was a big game. That was a big game, right, obviously, 99 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: and yet he went out and had a day with 100 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: two and a half sacks. I love the fact that 101 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: he could do that as well and had a great 102 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But this guy is going to bring immediate 103 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: goodness to the Cardinals in the form of being able 104 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: to rush four and drop seven. You've heard me talk 105 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: about this, Polly, over and over and over again. It's 106 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: very important. It's something that JG of course and Nick 107 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: Rollis were accustomed to back when they were with the Eagles, 108 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: rushing four and dropping seven and being able to get 109 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: pressure on an opposing quarterback. Will the Arizona Cardinals be 110 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: able to do that this year? That'd be awesome if 111 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: they were. 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 6: And you know we're gonna ask Dave Pash about that 113 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 6: in the next segment. Day Pash our special guest on 114 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 6: tonight's edition to The Big Red Rage, presented by Santan 115 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 6: Ford and Gilbert. It's interesting to hear Joshua tell it. 116 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 6: The game plan in the Super Bowl is exactly what 117 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 6: JG did with him effect of twenty twenty one. Just 118 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 6: go just just be a savage, just go just straight 119 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 6: ahead football, and that's what he's looking forward to doing. 120 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 6: At the same time, he says he can defend the run. 121 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 6: He is a three down player. That is exactly what 122 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 6: Dalvin Tomlinson specializes in, right, And he was asked during 123 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 6: his press conference, Dalvin Tomlinson, all right, how much pride 124 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 6: do you take in your run d. 125 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 7: I take a lot of pride in run stopping, just 126 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 7: because pass rushing is like the pinnacle, I guess you 127 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 7: could say of Dylon. But the thing is, we won't 128 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 7: be in a position actually pass rush if we don't 129 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 7: stop the run. Because every coach, no matter how new 130 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 7: or old coach you are, if the run's working, We're 131 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 7: not going to pass the ball. We're going to go 132 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 7: back to the run game. So I take a lot 133 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 7: of pride in stopping the run just so me and 134 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,559 Speaker 7: other guys can have opportunities to get sex. 135 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 6: It's remarkable the potential from last year to this year 136 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 6: in interior defensive line. When you consider that Blon Nichols 137 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 6: and Justin Jones play to combine nine games. Darius Robinson, 138 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 6: I mean he was never himself. He missed more than 139 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 6: half this season. Now, if all three of those guys 140 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 6: are healthy and you had Delvin Thomlinson, it can be 141 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 6: night and day in the trenches. 142 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, I would say this too. Don't forget about LJ. Collier. 143 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean this guy. I love this guy from a 144 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: depth perspective. I think right now, beyond a shadow of 145 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: a doubt, the defensive line room is the most improved 146 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: position room on the Arizona Cardinals roster. It's not even 147 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: close to me a blown Nichols, As you said, Delvin Tomlinson, 148 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Justin Jones, Darius Robinson, these guys are This is deep it. 149 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: Dante Stills, by the way, yep, don't forget about Dante stills. Man, 150 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: it's West Virginia. Don't get me started, but you get 151 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: my point. This is a defensive line room that is very, 152 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: very deep, and I'm really excited for the Arizona Cardinals 153 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: to see what kind of goodness that is going to bring. 154 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Because again we were talking about this, but if you 155 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: can rush for imagine Josh Sweat coming off one side, 156 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: Glare coming off the other side. Maybe it's Darius Robinson 157 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: as well coming off the other side, Dalvin Tomlinson getting 158 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: that interior push. Man, it just I love the fact 159 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: that Arizona Cardinals have gotten more physical this offseason. Right now, 160 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: will it turn into wins? We gotta wait and see. 161 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 6: And I know you've cited this Damn Thomlinson last year 162 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 6: for a three and fourteen Browns team that was missing 163 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 6: Miles Garrett quite a bit. Still set career highs and 164 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 6: QB hits, QB pressures, QB knockdowns. So he's coming off. 165 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 6: In fact, Rob Frederickson this week, and I think you 166 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 6: share this sentiment. You weren't even aware of what Rob 167 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 6: Frederickson said on the Red Sea Report. He doesn't know 168 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 6: if there's a more impactful signing than Dalvin Thomlinson period 169 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 6: this offseason, including Josh Sweat, so really interesting. We'll get 170 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 6: some thoughts and insight from Dave Pash, Voice of the Cardinals. Next, 171 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 6: it is the big red range presented by Santan Forward 172 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 6: in Gilbert thirty six. 173 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: It is Jackson always passed again afflicted. 174 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: It is pecked at the. 175 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 5: Fenty seven d the team Davis Cather. 176 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 4: Let's got to throw flesher. He is jacked Dalvin Tomlinson 177 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: flying through the middle of a sack to start for Cleveland. 178 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: He is sid. 179 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 6: Tomlinson in trouble down. 180 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: He comes down with thomainson there and the ball came 181 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: out Parks in trouble. 182 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 4: He is shot Josh Sweat with his sack and was 183 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: under pressure again swung down twenty nine yard line. 184 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 5: Josh Sweat here is hairs. 185 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: Again and he gets Wat just nowhere to go, and 186 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: Josh Sweat was there. 187 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: Here's the homes pressure, I don't live in the head 188 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: is sick. 189 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: Josh Sweat gets home. 190 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 6: Here's the question Wolf, how many sacks? How many Josh 191 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 6: Sweat sacks? Well, the Voice of the Cardinals call this 192 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 6: upcoming season home man, Polly prop that over here, I'm 193 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 6: saying at least double digits, right, at least come on, now, 194 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 6: that's what. 195 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Paulie, right there, I think twelve 196 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: twelve seems like a good lay amount. 197 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 6: That'd be a career high as well. For Josh Sweat, 198 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 6: that's interesting, okay. In fact, if we had Dave Pash here, 199 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 6: we'd probably tell him, you know enough, sitting court side 200 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 6: and calling Lebron and Steph games, it's time to put 201 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 6: his hand back in the dirt. Talk some Cardinals off 202 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 6: season and free agency, and lo and behold. Dave Pash 203 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 6: is our guest here on the Big Red Rage, presented 204 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 6: by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are santan Ford. Dave. 205 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 6: Will you please put down the bracket and let's talk 206 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 6: some football? 207 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: Are you ready? You good? 208 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 8: Go? 209 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: Hey, Paulie, how are you? My question is how many 210 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: stacks of Josh Sweat is Wolf gonna call? Can we get? 211 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: Is it too late? Oh? 212 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: Yes it is? It is that Chip has sailed my brother. 213 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: I know, man, Mom, happy for you. We're gonna miss you. 214 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: Well appreciate it, David. 215 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 6: Maybe if we're lucky, you'll go Brett Farvan, You'll you'll 216 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 6: change your mind. Three more times before the season. All Right, 217 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 6: let's get into Josh Sweat. Let's pick it up from there. 218 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 6: I mean, Dave, was there an NFL team that had 219 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 6: a bigger need than the Arizona Cardinals for an edge rusher. 220 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 6: Was there an NFL team that in free agency got 221 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 6: a bigger name than Josh Sweat. 222 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 3: Big name, big signing. Obviously coming off a great year 223 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 3: individually collectively as a defense, and it was a big 224 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 3: need for the Cardinals. I wasn't sure if they would 225 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: look to address it in the draft or if they 226 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 3: would look in free agency. You have to assume that 227 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: bj Jalari is going to come back healthy, and you 228 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 3: have David Collins, who I think showed that he could 229 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: be a solid rotational guy. And Darius Robinson, to me 230 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 3: still is the key because I think he's got a 231 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: world of talent. Last year was a lost year for 232 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 3: him with the injury and then just trying to get 233 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: adjusted to the NFL football in the last month of the 234 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 3: Sea was a lot to ask. But in terms of 235 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: addressing the need, to me, it was the need on 236 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: this team. They certainly did that with Josh Sweat. 237 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, I would definitely agree with what David is 238 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: talking about right now. Joshwatt really changes the dynamic of 239 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals defense overall. You know, one of the 240 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: things I love about him, guys, I think he's only 241 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: going to get better. I think he still has a 242 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: bit of a ceiling to reach right now. I know 243 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: over the last three four years he's been pretty productive 244 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: in terms of getting to the quarterback. But I think 245 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: he is a late bloomer. I think he's a guy 246 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: that actually is getting better as the years pass by. 247 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: And to me, being twenty seven years old right now, 248 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: I mean he's going into his eighth year. It's pretty 249 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: incredible he's going into his eighth year, but he's still 250 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: only twenty seven years old. That is one of the 251 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: reasons why I'm so bullish on this signing. David, what 252 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: did you think of Helvin Tomlinson in his signing. 253 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: That to me was not as big as the Josh 254 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: Sweat news, but really big because of how good of 255 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: a player he is, but also just addressing again in 256 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 3: need and I think people forget maybe the Cardinals made 257 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: two signings at on the defensive line last year, so 258 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: you add another player as we watch with the Eagles, 259 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 3: and really with any good NFL team, if you just 260 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: continue to role players in and out on the defensive line, 261 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: you're going to need him over the course of a 262 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 3: seventeen game schedule and a hopefully a handful of playoff game. 263 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: So the more depth of better on that d line. 264 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: And Tomlins has been a really good player in the 265 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: NFL for a while. 266 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 6: Hey, Dave Passion is our guest voice of the Cardinals 267 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 6: in the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert, 268 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 6: So it'd zoom out on that defensive front. To me, 269 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 6: the big question is what does this do for Nick 270 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 6: Rowlis guys and Dave in particular. I mean, we saw 271 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 6: what he was forced to do much of last season 272 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 6: and in terms of dialing it up right, eleven card 273 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 6: pickup guys could be anywhere at any time. But now, 274 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 6: wait a minute, what if he has more of an 275 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 6: ability to do what Philly did in the Super Bowl 276 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 6: and that is get home with four? To me, that 277 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 6: just adds another layer, another dynamic, more possibilities for Nick 278 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 6: Rawlish when potentially he has that front that can get 279 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 6: to the quarterback, affect the quarterback with only four. Because 280 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 6: that's a radical departure from what he's had to do 281 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 6: the last two years. 282 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: And you know, when Jonathan Gannon took the job and said, 283 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: I'm not going to call the defense, I trust Nick Ralis. 284 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 3: Even though Rawless had not been a play caller yet 285 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: we've seen it play out though that Rawlis is as 286 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: good as anybody, just given what he had to work 287 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: with last year every week not knowing who is going 288 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: to be available and being able to just on the 289 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 3: fly week to week or sometimes in game when guys 290 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: would go down, and we saw how creative he can be. 291 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: And I still feel like, you know, going back to 292 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: Darius Robinson, he potentially could be a game wrecker. I 293 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 3: think he's that good if he can get back to 294 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 3: where he was pre injury, and you need that guy. 295 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 3: I mean, Jalen Carter as good as the other players 296 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 3: that were with Philly. I mean it all started with 297 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: him up front. I don't know the Cardinals have that guy, 298 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: but they've got multiple players now in the D line 299 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: that can give Rawlis an opportunity to just rush for. 300 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: You're not going to live there that maybe you're you 301 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: know that you're you're entree, but it's not going to 302 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 3: be every single play that you know you're just relying 303 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 3: on that you're going to still bring pressure and be 304 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: creative with what you're calling in terms of blitz packages. 305 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: So, David, when you look at the Arizona Cardinals free 306 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: agency at this point of free agency right now, what 307 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: do you think they still need? What are their needs 308 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: right now? Well? 309 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: If I still feel like secondary is something that kind 310 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: of like going back to the D line, to me, 311 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: there's really three positions or three groups that you can 312 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: never have enough good players offensive line, defensive line, and 313 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 3: secondary because of how many teams use three four receivers now, 314 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 3: so you need to have multiple corners. I think the 315 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: Cardinals have three to four either corner slash nickel guys. 316 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: Can they get another one? Can they get either a 317 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: star or a young player you know in the draft 318 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: that you think can develop into a star. You know, 319 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 3: with the play on words, you got Star Thomas, who 320 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: nobody thought much of a couple of years ago, but 321 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 3: he can be a really good NFL corner. So you 322 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: add him to what they have with some of the 323 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: guys they've drafted and then Murphy Bunting and you know, 324 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 3: maybe a draft pick or another free agent signing. I 325 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: think that that's an area of need. I still think 326 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: wide receiver would love to see that room addressed. I 327 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: think you can live without having the greatest receiving corps 328 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 3: if your quarterback's great and you've got Trey McBride and 329 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: your offensive line has improved. I don't think you necessarily 330 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 3: have to have the best receiving corps to be a 331 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: threat to go to the Super Bowl. And I don't 332 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: want to stunt Michael Wilson's growth there either, But I 333 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 3: do feel like if they can add somebody that's got 334 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 3: speed to that position group, that would be a plus. 335 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 6: What about offensive guard? To both of you guys, in fact, 336 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 6: we'll start with you. Do you consider that right now 337 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 6: a need or a want? Evan Brown re signed? Obviously, 338 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 6: Will Hernandez unknown. All I've heard is he's ahead of 339 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 6: schedule in the rehab on the knee injury, which is 340 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 6: great news. No idea if he's going to be on 341 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 6: this roster going forward, what do you think? Obviously, Isaiah 342 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 6: Adams is a sleeper in year two, trying to put 343 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 6: on some weight and strength. Where do you think money's 344 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 6: at at that position? 345 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI that to me, that position is the biggest 346 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: area of need right now. That's the way that I 347 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: see it. Interior offensive line, and I'm talking more specifically 348 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 1: about the guard position. I think Will Hernandez, of course, 349 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: who knows what's going to happen there. I would love 350 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: to see them sign Will Hernandez a free agent, of course, 351 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: but he's coming off of that knee. I'd love to 352 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: see if they could get a discount on him and 353 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: bring him back because I think offensive lineman can still 354 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: recover from acls and go out and be productive, no 355 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: doubt about that. But I think that is the biggest 356 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: area of need. I would say that. And inside linebacker 357 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: right now. I know they've signed a Keem Davis Gaither, 358 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: I understand that, but I also think you need a 359 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: little depth right there. I wonder what they're going to 360 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: be doing for the inside linebacker position in terms of depth, 361 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: And is Kaiser White still a viable option? Are they 362 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: still talking to Kaiser White? Who knows what's gonna happen 363 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 1: with that? And then I can also say that guard, 364 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: and when I think of the guards that are coming 365 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: up in this draft, I think of Tyler Booker, and 366 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: this is a guy that I think is falling down 367 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: draft boards because he ran a five three eight at 368 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: the combine and yet before the combine. When you watch 369 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: the tape, forget about the tape measure, bully. When you 370 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: watch the tape, Tyler Booker is a guy that is 371 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: a mauler and a guy that was gonna go and 372 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: probably the first top half of the draft, and now 373 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he on many boards many analysts 374 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: at least, has dropped out of the first round. If 375 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: that is the case, I would love to see the 376 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals get him. I'd take Tyler Booker. I'd take 377 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: him at sixteen right now, because he's the ward daddy 378 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: JG wants to have at that guard position. 379 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, what's interesting, You're right? I mean when the mock 380 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 6: draft started a month ago, he was going tenth overall 381 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 6: to Chicago, thirteenth overall to Miami. He wasn't even getting 382 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 6: to the Cardinals. Now now you can get him in 383 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 6: round two according to the mock drafts. Dave any thoughts 384 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 6: on guard and or maybe middle linebacker for this team. 385 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: Well, having Alabama a bunch the last couple of years, 386 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: I can speak to a wolf was talking about with 387 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: Booker and ultimately, do you really care what a guard 388 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 3: runs in the forty yard dash? You carry about can 389 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: can he wrecked? Wreck the line of scrimmage, open up whole, 390 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: protect Kyler Murray and run ten yards downfield to help block. 391 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 3: We don't necessarily need him to worry about forty yards sprint. 392 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 3: I found it interesting that on the draft boards he dropped. 393 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 3: I wonder if he's really dropped in the draft rooms. 394 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 3: We're really mad, right, does Monty Austin Ford care if 395 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: the guy ran over a five, you know, as an 396 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: offensive guard for the forty yard dash? Maybe he does. 397 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 3: But Booker is a guy that you know. Alabama has 398 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: got a pretty good tradition when it comes to offensive 399 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 3: lineman and success rate making the transition to the NFL. 400 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: And that's a player I like as well. 401 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 6: Dave Pash, our guest in the Big Red Rage, Dave, 402 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 6: what about corner back? Because now a lot of the 403 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 6: mock drafts have the Cardinals using the sixteenth pick overall 404 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 6: for a corner namely Will Johnson Michigan coming off an injury. 405 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 6: Big dude, six to two, I mean, really athletic wolf 406 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 6: Din melkiper Junior tell you this week he's like a 407 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 6: pick six waiting to happen. That That was Mel's quote. 408 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 6: I don't know if you've see him much, Dave, but 409 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 6: overall we know that's JG's area of specialty corner. Do 410 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 6: you think this these decision makers value that position high 411 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 6: enough to go number sixteen overall? 412 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 413 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: Again, I don't think he can ever have too many 414 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: cover guys, and he's I didn't have Michigan this year, 415 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 3: but watching him on television over time, he stands out. 416 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 3: And you know, I don't have a problem necessarily picking 417 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 3: a guy that is coming off an injury. Garrett Williams 418 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 3: is coming off an injury, but he was a third 419 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 3: round pick. Maybe it's different if you're taking a guy 420 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 3: in the top twenty that's coming off an injury. But 421 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: he is a guy that definitely stands out. I think 422 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: there are a few guys that really stand out that 423 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 3: you could see the Cardinals taken in the middle of 424 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: the first round. 425 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: Can I just jump in here and say that will 426 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: Johnson was so fascinating about him, PAULI is the fact 427 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: that he's six too. He's six too when he's over 428 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: two hundred pounds. You were talking, Paulie about a big, 429 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: big corner. And what mel kiper Junior actually told us 430 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: on the Wolf and Luke Show. Of course, he told 431 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: us that he's the best anticipatory corner he has seen 432 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: in years. Now, What did he mean by that, Paul, 433 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: He's talking about a corner that plays in his zone 434 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: room and can actually jump a lot of route combinations. 435 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: He said, he's a pick six, as you said, waiting 436 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: to happen right here, but anticipatory corner. It was the 437 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: first time I think I've ever heard that kind of 438 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: terminology and it was from mel kiper Junior about Will 439 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: Johnson in the fact that he is a guy that 440 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: does really, really well in zone cover. Does that sound 441 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: like something that would interest Nick Rolis and Jag Absolutely. 442 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 6: When you paint that picture, I start thinking of Jalen Ramsey. 443 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 6: I start thinking of Jalen Ramsey of the Dolphins and 444 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 6: being on the sideline and going, man, that dude's a corner. 445 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 6: Are you kidding me? 446 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: Right now? 447 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 6: Battling Marvin Harrison Junior? Al Right, my last question of 448 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 6: Dave Pash Voice of the Car As you do a 449 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 6: lot of college games, I always like to get your 450 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 6: thoughts on quarterback real quick. I mean does it go 451 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 6: beyond the top two? Cam Ward Shador Sanders. What do 452 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 6: you think about Jackson Dart, Tyler Shuck? What do you 453 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 6: think about those guys at. 454 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 7: Both over the years? 455 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 3: Had Jackson Dart I think three times this past year. 456 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 3: I'm not sure about you first round, but I could 457 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: see both those guys going later. Had cam Ward this 458 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: year clearly the best quarterback to me in the draft. 459 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: But I really like Shadar Sanders a lot. I like 460 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 3: him as a guy, I like him as a player, 461 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: and I think I know there's a lot of rumors 462 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: that he's dropping, but he's somebody that if I need 463 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: a quarterback, even if you're not sure how much, he 464 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 3: can help you right away because of his work, ethic, 465 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 3: his intelligence and his talent. I'm taking him high in 466 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 3: the draft. Dave, love it. 467 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 6: Love the expertise and the insight. We're gonna lean on 468 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 6: you as we get close to the draft. Appreciate it. 469 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: Hi, fella's good talking to you. 470 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 6: There we go, Dave Pash. We continue and we'll talk 471 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 6: quarterback Jacoby Brissett. Next on the big Red Rage. 472 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: Persett lifts his right Lene they show Blitz. Here they come. 473 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: Jacoby back up in the pocket looking throwing Cooper's open. 474 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 9: He's up in the hurry Cotton in the end zone. 475 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 3: Touchdown Hombory Cooper per set shotgun with hunch on his left, 476 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: him percent looking up in the pocket. 477 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 7: He's gonna run and then. 478 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 5: He thinks he runs track. 479 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 7: He's got the end zone. 480 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 4: Heady links in touchdown. 481 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 7: Jacoby Brussette. 482 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 8: In my role throughout my career, I think you find 483 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 8: different ways to help not only myself but other guys 484 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 8: around me, and you figure that out as the year 485 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 8: goes on, and uh, you know, the good things you 486 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 8: continue to do and the bad things you just learn 487 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 8: from it to get better from it. 488 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 6: That's Jacoby Brssett, Cardinals, q B two, A proven commodity 489 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 6: in this league, well known to those who are in 490 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 6: charge of the Arizona Cardinals, considering that he has ties 491 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 6: to the offensive coordinator Drew Patts and the quarterbacks coach 492 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 6: Israel Woolford. Jonathan Gannon himself. They were together in Indie 493 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 6: once upon a time, Fanny aasen Ford when he was 494 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,640 Speaker 6: in New England, so a lot of familiarity and there's 495 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 6: a reason that he signed on the line that has 496 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 6: dotted Jacoby Brissett. As we say, welcome back into the 497 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 6: Big Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We 498 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 6: are santan Ford, Paul Kelvic Ron Wolfley our guest. Last week, 499 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 6: wolf Drew Stanton Carent, former Cardinals backup quarterback, said he 500 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 6: actually sent a text to the front office congratulating the 501 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 6: decision makers on what he called an A plus signing 502 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 6: in Jacoby Brissett. You know, Drew and how much he 503 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 6: values that position. Not only you know, in case of emergency, 504 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 6: breake Glass, you want a guy who's capable and can 505 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 6: get you out of a game and gets you a win. Yeah, 506 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 6: but what the backup can do for the starter and 507 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 6: the entire offense. So what sort of value do you 508 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 6: attach to this sort of signing? 509 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paul, you know, I mean, just looking at Kyler 510 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: Murray and his injury situation, It's not like he's missed 511 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: a ton of games. I mean, we all understand when 512 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: you blow your ACL out, you blow your ACL out, Yeah, 513 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: and you're going to miss a lot of stuff. It's 514 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 1: not like Kyler is a guy that habitually has injury issues. 515 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: Yet at the same time, you're this is the National 516 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: Football League and man, you better have a backup that 517 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: can come into games, as you said, Pauli, and get 518 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: you out of games. I love this signing by the 519 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals because of Drew Petsing, because of his knowledge, 520 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: of course, with Jacoby Brissett in twenty twenty two with 521 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I love that, Puali. I think that's 522 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: really really important going forward. And I also like the 523 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: fact too that I don't think the Arizona Cardinals are 524 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 1: going to have to change their offense a lot or 525 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: the nature of their offense. I think Jacoby prissaid, although 526 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: he's not a guy that has the wheels like Kyler 527 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: Murray has, he is a guy that can still be 528 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: that dual threat quarterback. He does run the ball when 529 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: he has to run the ball, and does a good 530 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: job of it as well. He's got fifteen touchdowns in 531 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: his career. He's a guy that back in twenty twenty 532 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 1: two with the Browns rush for over two hundred yards 533 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: two hundred and forty three yards as a matter of fact. 534 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: So this is a guy that can actually do that 535 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: orchestrate the modern day offense and the National Football League 536 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: where you can blend the old and the new, the 537 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: two different schemes, the new schemes with the old schemes. 538 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: I think Jacoby Brissett embodies that and actually allows the 539 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals to keep the same kind of offense going forward 540 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: if Kyler Murray ever does go down. 541 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, his fifty three career starts. He got them out 542 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 6: of a game late October, New England where he came 543 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 6: back in the second half, especially the fourth quarter, two 544 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 6: late scoring drives and they beat the Jets, and that 545 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 6: that was a big win and really showed what he's 546 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 6: capable of. Well, there was Jacoby Brissett not long after 547 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 6: signing the line that has dotted with our Zach Gershman 548 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,239 Speaker 6: and they sat down to go one on one and 549 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 6: they were talking about the whole free agency process to start. 550 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 5: When the free agency process began, what were you looking 551 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 5: for in a team and why were the Cardinals to 552 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 5: right fit for you? 553 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it all boiled down to, you know, 554 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 8: people that I wanted to go to work with. Obviously 555 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 8: I had a history with Israel and Drew Petsing and 556 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 8: obviously JG when he was an indie. I think those 557 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 8: were the driving forces for me, and that's what made 558 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 8: this place attracted to me. 559 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 5: Drew Pets and he was your quarterbacks coach in Cleveland, 560 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 5: where you started eleven games with the Browns. What is 561 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 5: it about his coaching style that you gravitated towards. 562 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 8: His mindset going into games? You know, how he breaks 563 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 8: everything down and makes it simple for the quarterback to play. 564 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 8: I think when I was playing there, I think I 565 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 8: was playing really good ball. And you know, the way 566 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,239 Speaker 8: he handled the meeting rooms and things like that, it 567 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 8: definitely helped me, you know, towards the field. 568 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 5: Towards the back end of the season. Last year, you 569 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 5: were at State Farm Stadium for the Patriots versus the Cardinals. 570 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 5: I know you're on the up posing sidelines, and the 571 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 5: Cardinals came away with the win. But when you were 572 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 5: watching that game and even leading up to it as 573 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 5: you were prepping for the Cardinals, what'd you see from 574 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 5: the Cardinals offense and defense that stood out to you? 575 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 8: You know, obviously on office a lot of explosive players, 576 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 8: and it was kind of cool to see all the 577 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 8: ways that Drew kind of used Cleveland offense and fit 578 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 8: the players into the system and kind of built around 579 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 8: the guys that he has here. So you know that 580 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 8: was that was very exciting. I was trying to call 581 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 8: the plays from the sideline and see if I was 582 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 8: getting them right. And then obviously the defense was always 583 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 8: tough to go against. You know, you got a guy 584 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 8: at least like Buddha. You know, you know, it's a 585 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 8: lot of fun to watch him, and obviously as an 586 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 8: opposing player, it's very tough to go against him. 587 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 5: So you now enter this quarterback room with guys like Kyler, Murray, 588 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 5: Clayton Tune, knowing that you're the veteran in that room, 589 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 5: considering you have the most experience in the league, how 590 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 5: do you think you could compliment both of those two players. 591 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 8: I think when you get in those rooms, you just 592 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 8: got to figure it out as you go. You know, 593 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 8: obviously want to bring some insight, and obviously, you know, 594 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 8: helped our room be the best room in the league 595 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 8: and play good football. And I think that's what it 596 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 8: all boils down too. 597 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting. I've cited the Boston media to 598 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 6: a man said that Drake may loved him that even 599 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 6: though Jacoby Brissett lost his starting gig Week six to 600 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 6: the rookie, he was really good in the room. Did 601 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 6: everything he could to mentor young Drake May. That obviously 602 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 6: is critical and the whole equation. Drew Stan talked about 603 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 6: that last week. He also talked about you have to 604 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 6: be ready to go when you get virtually no reps 605 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 6: during the practice week. So the fact that he's got 606 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 6: ten years in the league, almost half of those years 607 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 6: he was a starting quarterback once again if in need, 608 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 6: combined with the fact that Wolf he has an historically 609 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 6: low career interception percentage. So let's say you need him 610 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 6: and you have a top ten, top five run game 611 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 6: like the Cardinals have had two years running, he can 612 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 6: definitely engineer some wins for this team if called upon. 613 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, if called upon, that's exactly what he can do. Pauline, 614 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: You're right about that. You've got to have that expectation 615 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: out of your backup quarterback. I've told you there are 616 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: two times where heads will snap up in the huddle. 617 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: Number one one a legend steps into the huddle to 618 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: call play. And number two, when the backup quarterback steps 619 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 1: in to call a play, your head will snap up 620 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: and you're gonna be looking at the guy like are 621 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: you okay? Are you gonna be okay? Right now? Because 622 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: We know you didn't get a ton of reps during practice, 623 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: and you know what, we got to go win this game. 624 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: Are you all right? You know it's not going to 625 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: be too big for Jacoby Brissett at all. He's going 626 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: to be able to step into that huddle and command 627 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: that huddle, and that's not going to be a surprise 628 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: to anybody that might be in that huddle right now. 629 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: I think it's also very, very important that he has 630 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: a familiarity with his offense that he can actually help 631 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: share with Kyler Murray and help his growth and his 632 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: development as well. But Jacoby Brisset, from what I've seen 633 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: in the past, when I've seen him on the sideline, 634 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: he's always in the ear of the starting quarterback. And 635 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: I wonder if he's going to do the same with 636 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray because he's got a lot to say, He's 637 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: got a lot of wisdom, he's got a lot of poise, 638 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: and I wonder if he can help Kyler develop a 639 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: little bit more of that as well. 640 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, And if you think that, look the evolution of 641 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 6: Kyler's game where he can really elevate his game in 642 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 6: year seven is just recognizing defenses right quickly, being able 643 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 6: to read and react. You gotta figure Jacoby Brissett's going 644 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 6: to be your real asset in that department, speaking of 645 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 6: the huddle and playing quarterback and going to the line 646 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 6: of scrimmage. Offensive line obviously is a big asset. We'll 647 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 6: see if the Cardinals go that direction in the draft. 648 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 6: We'll see there are still some potential starting guards out 649 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 6: there that are in play. We'll see about that. But 650 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 6: what you want to see more than anything else, Wolf, 651 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 6: is a healthy offensive line. Don't know if you had 652 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 6: a chance to catch Acycardinals dot Com Darren Rbant in 653 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 6: his post earlier today where he cited how the two 654 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 6: thousand and eight Super Bowl team you're very familiar with 655 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 6: that you called every single game. Do you realize over 656 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 6: sixteen regular season games, in four playoff games all the 657 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 6: way to Super Bowl forty three, the same starting five 658 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 6: and the offensive line started every single game. 659 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: You know what, Paly, Honestly, I don't remember that. 660 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 6: I knew they were intact. I didn't know they started 661 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 6: all twenty games. And the reason you brought that up is, 662 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 6: if if there's one thing you can wish for this year, 663 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 6: it's the health of the old line, because Cardinals didn't 664 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 6: have a single combination of five guys last year that 665 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 6: even started twenty percent of the games. 666 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,959 Speaker 1: That's just that's just crazy right there. It really is. Listen. 667 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,479 Speaker 1: I honestly think going into the draft, this is the 668 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: one thing I'm going to be looking at. An interior 669 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: offensive lineman selected high. Whether it's in the first round, 670 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: the second round, whatever it may be. I think Manti 671 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: Asenford is going to continue to improve it. You know, 672 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: the spirit position of JG is the offensive line. That's 673 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: what he wants. He talks about it all the time, 674 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: and that's where I think the Arizona Cardinals truly can 675 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: get better in the draft. I know that you don't 676 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: want to depend on a rookie, a young guy like that, 677 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: but I think there's a guy that is out there 678 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: that could be available to the Arizona Cardinals, whether it's 679 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: at sixteen or they're going to trade down Tyler Booker. 680 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 6: More big red Rage. Right after this, we Scott to 681 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 6: throw lasher. 682 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: He is Jack Dalvin Tomlinson flying through the middle at 683 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 4: a sack to start for Cleveland. 684 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: His sign. 685 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 3: Thomlinson don't in trouble downy cos Dalvin Tomlinson there and the. 686 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: Ball came out. 687 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 3: Dalton Man bron down again, Dalvin Tomlin said. 688 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 6: Fields from a clean pocket, nobody open. 689 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 5: Now the pocket collapses of Downy goes, the ball is out, 690 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 5: Dalvin Tomlin. 691 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 6: Said, with the strip sack Boomer round two pick, former 692 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 6: member of an Alabama defensive line room that included Jonathan 693 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 6: Allen and Deron Payne and A'shawn Robinson. I mean, just absurd. 694 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 6: It was sort of like when Kenyon Drake showed up 695 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 6: right and came to the Cardinals and he talked about 696 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 6: how in his Alabama running back room there was Derrick Henry, 697 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 6: Alvin Kamara, TJ. Yeldon who was a high second round pick. 698 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 6: I just did the talent that's going through the that 699 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 6: program during those times and in area is two years, 700 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 6: twenty nine million, sixteen million guaranteed. Reportedly, Cardinals make a 701 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 6: big investment in a big man. Dalvin Tomlinson. As we're 702 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 6: wrapping up the Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford 703 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 6: in Gilbert Paul Kelvic Ron Wolfley and wolf you know, 704 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 6: I mean, look, there were times last year where the 705 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 6: Cardinals went against three techniques and nose tackles who are 706 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 6: a serious headache. I'm thinking about the two Seattle games 707 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 6: with Leonard Williams. I mean, there's only so many things 708 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 6: you can do as an offensive coordinator to try and 709 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 6: nullify a really disruptive three technique or nose tackle, and 710 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 6: the Cardinals certainly hope they got one now in Dalvin Tomlinson. 711 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, you know, once again, this was my favorite signing, 712 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: Dalvin Tomlinson. It was I know that Josh Sweat was 713 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: a bigger need and there's no doubt about that they 714 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: needed an edge guy that could come in and produce. 715 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: And I think Josh Sweat was a great signing, no 716 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: doubt about it. For me personally, you know me, I 717 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: want the big Harry, give you the big nasty the 718 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: guy who's going to line up over the center in 719 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: a one technique or line up over the outside shoulder 720 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: of a guard in a three technique and create that 721 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: interior push that the Arizona Cardinals really need, and that 722 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: is something that's a three technique can really do. You've 723 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: heard me say this before, Polly, but it's the truth. 724 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: There's nothing more destructive in the football universe than a 725 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: three technique. Dalvin Tomlinson is a guy that did an 726 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: awesome job of getting quarterback hits last year when he 727 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: was thirty one years old, getting quarterback hits and not 728 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: only that pressures on the quarterback, he set career highs 729 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: for each one of those last year. This tells me 730 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: this guy is still a work in progress as well. 731 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: He's only thirty one years old, and we've seen many 732 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: three techniques, many nose tackles go into thirty three, thirty 733 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: four somewhere in that vicinity before they started to take 734 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: a step back. 735 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 6: See, we have a pattern here. Guys who played the game, 736 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 6: who had NFL careers, they like this Dalvin Tomlinson signing 737 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 6: the most. Rob Frederickson said, I don't know if there's 738 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 6: a more impactful signing than Dalvin Thomlinson. Kyle Vannibosch talking 739 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 6: about Look, the three years that I went to the 740 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 6: Pro Bowl, you know who my interior defensive linemen were, 741 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 6: Albert Hansworth and then and Dominic can Sue. So they 742 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 6: know how vital it is to have that guy. And 743 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 6: we had Dalvin Tomlinson himself as a guest on Cardinals 744 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 6: Cover Too, the podcast with Craig Griolou and Yours truly, 745 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 6: and we just started by asking him why the Cardinals 746 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 6: the scheme. 747 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 7: I looked into the scheme, I felt like I was 748 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 7: I would be a good fit in the interior of 749 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 7: the scheme and making plays, and I saw what the 750 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 7: Cardinals was trying to build and everything, and I just 751 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 7: felt like what the culture they already have here and 752 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 7: the guys they are bringing in has a perfect fick 753 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 7: for me. 754 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 9: What specifically from watching this defense do you think you 755 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 9: might have the biggest disruption, whether that's the run or 756 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 9: the I. 757 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 7: Feel like a little bit of both, especially the run game, 758 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 7: just because the noseguard gets freed up with a lot 759 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,919 Speaker 7: of one on ones. That's very dangerous, I would say, 760 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 7: And I in the past it was just the biggest 761 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 7: thing is all the RPOs and play action passes in 762 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 7: the game. These days, I feel like I make a 763 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 7: big impact in that field. 764 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 9: You mentioned earlier about the pass rush that you felt 765 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 9: like there was an elevation to your pass rush last season. 766 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 9: What specifics did you learn or did you show out 767 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 9: on the football. 768 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: Field last year. 769 00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 7: I would say it's mostly technical stuff with hands and feet, 770 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 7: flipping the hips, like stopping the run and being disruptive 771 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 7: in the run game and starting with power and go 772 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 7: to finesse and things like that. No one went to 773 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 7: mix things up in the pass rush. It just makes 774 00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 7: me feel like I was more versatile last year, and 775 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 7: I was actually getting a lot of good hits on 776 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 7: quarterbacks last year as a big guy. 777 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it says here, I'm looking at your analytics. You 778 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 6: had career highs and quarterback hits, quarterback pressures, quarterback knockdowns. 779 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,799 Speaker 6: Were you getting a little extra attention towards the end 780 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 6: of the year. Was that showing up on film? 781 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, for sure. You know, you only could give 782 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 7: me so much attention when I have Miles over there 783 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 7: expecting the same thing with sweating man. And yeah, you know, 784 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 7: as a big guy, you know, I'm used to double 785 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 7: teams and stuff like that, and a lot of the 786 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 7: pass rushes I had when I was getting those hits, 787 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 7: so I was had to defeat double teams. 788 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 6: And you know what, I threw those stats out there. 789 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 6: But at your position, when you're commanding a double team, 790 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 6: you're at the epicenter of the d line. I mean, 791 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 6: stats don't always tell the story right as to whether 792 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 6: you're effective at your job description. So what do you value. 793 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 6: How do you assess your own play when you're right there, 794 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 6: especially when you're playing the nose or the three technique. 795 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 7: Like stat's not everything going to interior just because like 796 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 7: if I have a defensive end next to me, every 797 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 7: year it gets ten plus sacks. I'm happy because I'm 798 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 7: doing my job because I'm helping him get up free. 799 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 7: So if I can help the guys around me be 800 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 7: productive and successful, I'm doing my job as well. 801 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 6: We also asked him, all right, when you're making place, 802 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 6: what's your favorite play to make, and we gave him 803 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 6: a few options. He said, oh yeah, knocking the center 804 00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,959 Speaker 6: on his keyster and then if I can go ahead 805 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 6: and force a fumble after that, that would be the combo. 806 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 6: That's the combo platter for me. That's what he enjoys 807 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 6: the most. But you can, you can just just sitting 808 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 6: down with a wolf, you know, just his energy is 809 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 6: love for the game and his willingness to do the 810 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 6: dirty work inside and is a three time state champion 811 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 6: wrestler in high school. 812 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: Sixty three three. I just love that. 813 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 6: I just think he's so well equipped for that position. 814 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to say this quickly as well 815 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: to some of the best combinations have been a three 816 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: technique and in edge rusher. Some of the best combinations 817 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: in terms of generating pressure and working together that three 818 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,239 Speaker 1: technique Leonard Marshall and Lawrence Taylor. Have you heard of 819 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: those guys play, Yeah, Leonard Marshall of course, the three 820 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: technique on the inside in Lawrence Taylor. Those two guys 821 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,800 Speaker 1: working in unison created so much havoc in the National 822 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: Football League. And I honestly believe once again that the 823 00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals have Josh Sweat and now Tomlinson and who knows, 824 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: who knows who else, maybe bj Ojalari, maybe Darius Robinson 825 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: on the outside of Dalvin Tomlinson. Maybe they'll actually work 826 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: together and create this force of coming off and running 827 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 1: schemes together. It's one of the things that I really 828 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: look forward to, the stunts that they're going to be running, 829 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson of course, and Dalvin Tomlinson together, the stunts 830 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: they may be running, whether it's interior stunts or exterior, 831 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: it's going to be really cool to watch the chemistry 832 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: come together. 833 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 6: And then the Cardinals investment. Baron Browning, he said he 834 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 6: was never healthy all last year. He finished with a flourish. 835 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 6: Bjo Jelai was having a great camp till he went down. 836 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 6: So yeah, there's possibilities and there is maybe the ability 837 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 6: to bring a lot of these guys in waves, not 838 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 6: unlike what the Eagles did, especially in the Super Bowl. 839 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,360 Speaker 6: So look, you can cram it vertical on both sides 840 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 6: of the line. That's the defense offense. Well, did you 841 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 6: see the stat that came out earlier this week and 842 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 6: third Team put out the running backs of the highest 843 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 6: percentage of their rush is going for ten plus yards 844 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 6: last season. Number one Jamier gives the Lion sixteen point 845 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 6: four percent. Number two James Connor fourteen point four percent 846 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,439 Speaker 6: of his runs went for ten or more yards. That's 847 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 6: at a Derrick Henry Saquon Barkley Fries Hall. Wow. 848 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: Boy, that is so impressive right there, especially because again 849 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: the offensive line. I think the offensive line for the 850 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals is only going to be better this season. 851 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: It's not a surprise to me that James Connor is 852 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: mentioned at the very top in the National Football League 853 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: and running the football and explosive plays. We've all seen that, 854 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: of course, but at the same time, knowing all the 855 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: injuries they had on the offensive line and that's only 856 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,919 Speaker 1: going to get better hopefully going forward. I think that's very, 857 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: very encouraging. You know. 858 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 6: It's also interesting the Big twelve Pro Day has been 859 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 6: the last couple of days Arizona State involved in that. Now, 860 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 6: Cam Skataboo did not participate, but his head coach, Kenny 861 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 6: Dillingham won on NFL Network and said, you know, his 862 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 6: comp for Cam Scataboo Maurice Jones Drew, who led the 863 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,760 Speaker 6: NFL in rushing one year with over sixteen hundred yards. 864 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 6: That five eight five nine and a half type stature right, 865 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 6: the ability to take contact contact, balance, just the leg drive. 866 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 6: Give us a quick thought on Cam Scataboo And where 867 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 6: do you think he's gonna go? Do you have a 868 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,280 Speaker 6: gut feeling on him? 869 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 1: I don't, Paully, I don't. I just know that somebody's 870 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: gonna draft him higher than a lot of the draft 871 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: analysts will suspect. That's what I think, whether it's in 872 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: the third round, Paulie, maybe the fourth round. But I 873 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: think a lot of people going into last year didn't 874 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: really have Cam Scataboo rated high. He was going to 875 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,920 Speaker 1: be a guy that might be a sixth round pick 876 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: seventh round pick somewhere in that vicinity. He definitely has 877 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: improved that. As we all know, he's one of the 878 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 1: best running backs in my opinion, in the country right now. Man, 879 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 1: would you love to see James Connor and camscat it. 880 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: I would love to see it, Seriously, I would love 881 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: to see that. I just don't think he's going to 882 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: be around well. 883 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 6: And that combined with the fact Cardinals are pretty set, 884 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 6: pretty loaded in the running back room, right, I mean, 885 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 6: they re upped James Connor, Trey Benson really flashed mid season, 886 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 6: and then of course Amari de Mercado, great third down back, 887 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 6: underrated as a receiver as well. 888 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: Out of the backfield. 889 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 6: DJ Dallas, I mean, he's on this team, he's not 890 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 6: going anywhere, and great teams guy, So it would be 891 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 6: surprising if he ended up in a Cardinals uniform. 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