1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 2: and Senator let's just start with congratulations. Your new book 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: is out, Unwoke, how to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: And I have to say when you get the book, 6 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: if you haven't gotten the book, the best, the best page, 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: just skip right ahead to page number forty. It's the 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: best page in the book. So congrats on that. Most importantly, Senator, 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: page forty phenomenal. You should definitely just go right there, 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: read that and then start the very beginning. 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: Ben, what the hell is on page forty? I don't 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: know what's on page forty. 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: Page forty it says, and I will quote here. 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: Every podcast is one alongside my cost today that's Ben 15 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: Ferguson the nationally Syndicate Radios has become a very dear friend. 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: I got a shout out. I thank you, sir. I 17 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: appreciate that now. 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: So I actually think maybe the best page of the 19 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: book is the very first page of the book. Of 20 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: your copy, because I gave you a copy, I gave 21 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: you signed copy. You did, and if you recall the 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: inscription that I wrote on the front, I said, Ben, 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: you are one of the three best hosts in history 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: of the Verdict podcast. 25 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: Don't leave out the word undoubtedly. You use that word. 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 2: Undoubtedly, there we go. I want to make sure I 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: get that in the history books. 28 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 3: Now. Never mind that there have only been three hosts 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: of Verdict, and that would be you and me and 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 3: Michael Knowles. But you are undoubtedly one of the three best. 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: Yes, and that's and that's on the shelf right now. 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 3: And the second sentence I actually liked even better than 33 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: the first. And I said, of all of the men 34 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 3: to play college tennis, you're one of them. 35 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: There we go, you were one of them. So this 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: is the best part when you sign this. I didn't 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: want to travel with it, and you and I've been 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: on the road, and we were on the road last week, 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: and I didn't want to travel with the book because 40 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, this is what I want 41 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: to genuinely say forever. So I was out home for 42 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: the trip and I didn't want to, you know, knock 43 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: the book around. So I was reading all day yesterday 44 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: and all day today to get to make sure that 45 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: we can have a stellar interview on your own show 46 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: about your book. So let's start with the title why 47 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: did you pick the title unwoke? And also for people 48 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: that don't understand what the definition of cultural Marxism is, 49 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 2: what is that mean? 50 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: Look? 51 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 3: I wrote this book because the world has gone insane, 52 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: and my reaction is the same as as millions of people, 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 3: as the listeners of this podcast, that our reaction is 54 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: what the hell happened? How did things get so crazy 55 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: so fast? This book is my best effort to explain it, 56 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: and in particular, it's explaining how the radical left has 57 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: seized every major institution in America. And so the book 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: starts Chapter one is the universities, and I call the 59 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: universities the Wuhan lab of the woke virus. The universities 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: are where the virus was created, It's where it mutated, 61 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: and it's where it spread. Each chapter the book focuses 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: on a different institution the radical left is seized. So 63 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 3: Chapter two focuses on K through twelve education and all 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 3: the radical garbage being put in our kids, whether it's 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: critical race theory or radical transgenderism. Chapter three focuses on 66 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: journalism and how journalism has changed from covering the news 67 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: to propaganda. From there, I go to big business and 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 3: how big business today, the Fortune one hundred are the 69 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: economic enforcers of the radical left. From there, I go 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 3: to big tech and how big tech is pervasively censoring speech. 71 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: From there, I go to entertainment, and by the way, 72 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 3: if I could have just one back, I would have 73 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: entertainment back. Entertainment, I think is the most consequential of 74 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 3: all of these. And in entertainment we talk about Hollywood 75 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: and movies and television and sports and music. 76 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: We break it all down. 77 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 3: From there, we go to science and I talk about 78 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: how science has been corrupted and politicized. And the final 79 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: chapter in the book is on China and explains how 80 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: China is a nexus that links them all. And the 81 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: book was really designed to do two things. Number one, 82 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: explain how and why specifically the radical left took over 83 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: every one of those institutions, and they did it from 84 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: the inside. But secondly, to lay out a clear battle 85 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 3: plan how we take them back, how we fight back. 86 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: I believe we will take this country back. And this 87 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 3: book is laying out how we recapture the institutions of America. 88 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: You know in this book, and I encourage people to 89 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: get it because there is just an incredible history in 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: the very beginning as well about your fa family. I 91 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 2: know your father and have gotten to spend some time 92 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 2: with him. He's an awesome just individual be around. He's jovial, 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 2: he can be funny. He loves this country. But there 94 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 2: is some incredible history not only about your family, but 95 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: also how your father was involved in Cuba in the 96 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 2: students and at a young age, and what was happening 97 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: really with the revolution down there, and how he was 98 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: I guess you could say, brought in to this revolution 99 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: with Castro, not realizing what Castro was doing, and it 100 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: started at a young age where they were targeting children, 101 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 2: and it was an incredible part of the story, not 102 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: just because of what happened, but also how he was 103 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: beaten and how his life was threatened, and how he 104 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: was a marked man who had to get out and 105 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: come to America. Talk a little about that story of 106 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: that being your history of your family, and also it's 107 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,799 Speaker 2: a warning to what's happening in this country right now. 108 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 2: It's the beginning of the book and it's just an 109 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: It takes your breath away when you realize how close 110 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 2: your father was to death in Cuba. 111 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: Well, my family story is a huge part of why 112 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: this matters so much to me. It's personal, it's real, 113 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: and what I want to do is just read you 114 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 3: the first page of the book. His white linen suit 115 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: was stained red with blood, blood that had been beaten 116 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 3: out of him with a club regularly, each hour, breaking 117 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: his nose, shattering his teeth, Scarlet red blood, as if 118 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: his suit were emblazoned with the color of the Marxist 119 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: revolution of which he was a part. As my father 120 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 3: lay on that prison floor, crumpled and broken, not a 121 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: spot of white was visible on the now torn and 122 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 3: tattered suit he had been given for his seventeenth birthdayt 123 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 3: ed mud and dirt and grime and blood. To this day, 124 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: my dad remembers what he was thinking in that dark hole. 125 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: Nobody depends on me. I have no wife, no children. 126 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if I live or I die. Three 127 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: years earlier, when he was just fourteen, my father had 128 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: made the fateful decision to join up with the revolution 129 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: in his homeland of Cuba, to follow Fidel Castro. My 130 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 3: dad was young and ignorant and naive. Raphael bim Venilo 131 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: Cruz did not know that Castro was a Communist. He 132 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: didn't know the horrors that would befall the Cuban people 133 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 3: at the hands of his new comrades. He just knew 134 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 3: that the then dictator of Cuba, full of Gensio Bautista, 135 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: was corrupt and cruel and oppressive, as Francis Ford Coppola 136 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: immortally chronicled in The God Father Saga, Batista was in 137 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: bed with the American mafia, enjoying wealth and power purchased 138 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 3: with the blood beaten out of the Cuban people. Look, 139 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 3: that's my family story. My dad at seventeen was tortured. 140 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: He was in prison, he fled Qbi came to America. 141 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: My aunt, my Theo Sonya, whom I adore, who we 142 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 3: actually had on Verdict as a guest talking about Cuba. 143 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: She fought in the counter revolution. After Castro succeeded, she 144 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 3: was in prison, she was tortured by Castro's goons. I 145 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 3: tell her story in this book too. I also tell 146 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 3: the story of my grandmother, My Abuela. Miabuela was a 147 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: sixth grade teacher, and she told me she loved teaching, 148 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 3: She loved teaching her students, and she had a pure 149 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: photographic memory. Man, it was incredible. She literally everything she read, 150 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 3: she remembered word for word. She told me about when 151 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 3: Castro took over that they almost immediately targeted the children. 152 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: And one thing to understand, Marxists always begin with the kids, always, always, always, 153 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 3: As my father told me, the revolution, like he was, 154 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: were a bunch of fourteen and fifteen year old boys 155 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 3: who didn't know any better, teenagers. And you look at 156 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: every communist revolution in the world, whether you're talking about 157 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 3: Russia or China or North Korea, or Cuba or Venezuela, 158 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: it is always the young teenagers who are idealistic, who believe, 159 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 3: and who are naive, who don't have the world experience 160 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: to understand they're being lied to. But Communists start not 161 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: just with teenagers, they go younger. And what my grandmother 162 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: told me is she said, almost immediately after the revolution, 163 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: they sent the army into the elementary schools, and soldiers 164 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: would go into kindergartens in first grade and they would 165 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: tell all of the little kids, they'd say, close your 166 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 3: eyes and pray to God for candy, and the kids 167 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 3: all did so, and then they'd open their eyes and 168 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: there'd be no candy. And then the soldiers would tell them, 169 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: they'd say, close your eyes and pray to Fidel Castro 170 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 3: for candy, and the kids did so, and while their 171 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: eyes were closed, the soldiers would quietly slip a piece 172 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 3: of candy on each child's desk. That's not an aberration. 173 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: Chay Gavara, who was a vicious, bloodthirsty murderer. He was 174 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 3: Fidel Castro's right hand chay Gavara described children as malleable 175 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 3: clay that you can take the defects out of them. 176 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 3: You want to know why the cultural Marxists in America 177 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: started in the universities. You want to know why they've 178 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 3: gone into K through twelve, to elementary schools and junior 179 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: highs and high schools. Because if you take the children, 180 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: you take the nation. And this book is designed to 181 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: lay out how they did it and how we take 182 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: them back. 183 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: You know, when I was reading this book, Sentator, I 184 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 2: go back to there's certain pivotal moments, and I think 185 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: everyone's life that you look back on and you go, wow, 186 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 2: if that would have gone differently, my whole life would 187 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: have gone differently, or may not even exist in the 188 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 2: first place. I was hit by a drunk driver when 189 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: I was a young kid. We were in a car wreck. 190 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: He died. 191 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 2: We lived, and I go back to that moment in 192 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: my life. Many times I was in, as you know, 193 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: a shooting where I was a target of a gang initiation. 194 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: I wonder if I would have been hit that night 195 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: in my life, would have you know, I wouldn't have 196 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: my kids. There's that moment in this book where you 197 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: wrote my father joined up and began doing acts of sabotage, 198 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: berning government buildings, throwing cocktails, whatever he could undermine the 199 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 2: oppressure regime. That's what it landed him in prison at seventeen. 200 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: But Tesus police had caught him and they were they 201 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: were extracting their brutal revenge. The next day was dragging 202 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: the office of a colonel who told him, I'm letting 203 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: you go, but if another bomb goes off, if another 204 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: fire starts, I'm blaming you. How can I be responsible 205 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 2: for every bad thing what happens in the city, my 206 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: father asked, I don't care, replied the commander, I'm holding 207 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 2: you responsible. Your father returned home. My wellow wept. Her 208 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: eldest child had walked in the door, beaten, cover in 209 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: his own blood. As she told me when I was 210 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: a child, that imagined that from that day was scared 211 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: into her mind forever, forever. My bod told him get 212 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 2: out of the country, and that was the turning point 213 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: for your entire family history, because not only did he 214 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: get out, but he applied to colleges in America, to 215 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: the University of Miami, to LSU, to the University of Texas. 216 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 2: Texas was the first one that led him in, and 217 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: that's how he came to America. That's how you became 218 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: a Texan, and that's how your family history started anew 219 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: with a clean slate in America. When you were writing that, 220 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: I'm assuming you've heard the story many times, but when 221 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: you put it on paper, it took my breath away. 222 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 3: Look the book, it is actually dedicated. I don't think 223 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 3: they know this yet, but it is dedicated to my father, 224 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 3: my Theo Sonya, and Myabuela in my family, the original 225 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: freedom fighters. I don't think Miabuela is dead, but I 226 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: don't think either my dad or the Asnia have seen 227 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: that yet. Now my dad listens to Verdict, so he 228 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: he may find it out right now listening to the podcast. 229 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: But it was I mean when I and it's actually 230 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: the very last thing I type on the book is 231 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: the dedication, and that was Look, it's why I am 232 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: who I am. I grew up as a kid sitting 233 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 3: at the feet of my father and my Theosnia and 234 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: hearing about freedom fighters. And it is an unbelievable blessing 235 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 3: when you were the child of someone who fled oppression 236 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: and came to America seeking freedom. Our freedom is not 237 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 3: a joke. It's not something of that's kind of interesting. 238 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: It is. 239 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: It is incredibly serious. We either we defend our freedom 240 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: here or we lose America. I hate communists. I hate 241 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: them with a passion from the pit of my gut. 242 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: They are evil. Communism has been responsible for more death, 243 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: more misery, more destruction, more poverty, more suffering than any 244 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 3: force in the history of humanity. And this book is 245 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: all about how the same philosophy that has produced such 246 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: misery is taking over and has taken over the major 247 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 3: institutions of America. And look, you've heard me say this before, 248 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 3: but as a child, my father probably a thousand times 249 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: said to me, when we lost our freedom in Cuba, 250 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: I had a place to flee to. If we lose 251 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: our freedom here in America, where do we go? That's 252 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: what the stakes are right now. 253 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: There is also a point in there that hit me, 254 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 2: and you said that your dad did something that I 255 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: think we've lost in this country, and that's admitting sometimes 256 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: that maybe we get things wrong. 257 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: Maybe this woke agenda is a failure. 258 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: Maybe green alternative energy is in this green religion is 259 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 2: a failure. We've tried this indoct you know, the government 260 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: taking over our kids. It's a failure. And your dad 261 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: was an advocate for Castro early on, and he was 262 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: ashamed by it. He advocated for him even in America. 263 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: And he set down, I'm reading from the book. He's 264 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: set down, and he made a list of every place 265 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: he'd spoken in Austin, Texas in support of Castro. He 266 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 2: then went back to each and every one of them 267 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 2: and stood before the same people to make amends. He said, quote, 268 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: I am here to apologize. He told them, I misled you. 269 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 2: I didn't do so knowingly, but I did so. Nonetheless, 270 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: I urge you to support an evil man and an 271 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 2: evil Marxist regime, and for that, I am truly sorry 272 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: for me. That's not just a point of incredible character. 273 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: But why don't we have that with politicians today where 274 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: they can admit, hey, I may have gotten something wrong, 275 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 2: and I'm sorry that I got it wrong. 276 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: We tried this and it didn't work. 277 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: Because we are now, we have so many elected officials 278 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: that refused to ever admit they ever make a mistake. 279 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: In as humans, we make mistakes. 280 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: Look, that's exactly right, and that story likewise, my father 281 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: told me thousands of times. I was probably, I don't know, 282 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: two or three years old the first time I heard that, 283 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 3: and I've admired it every time i've heard it, because 284 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 3: to have the courage, he had gone and spoken at 285 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 3: rotary clubs and Kowana's clubs in Austin supporting Castro when 286 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: he got here. He got here, it was nineteen fifty seven, 287 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: he was still a young revolutionary. He didn't know that 288 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: Castro was a communist, and he hated Batista. And then 289 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: when Castro took over and to clarity was a communist, 290 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 3: and in my dad saw the evil and oppression and 291 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: theft and murder and cruelty, and that as bad as 292 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: Batista was, Fidel Castro was a thousand times worse. He 293 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: had the character to admit he's wrong. Yet, you know, 294 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm reminded of the clip recently where Barack Obama played that. 295 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: He said, you know, we all, we are all complicit 296 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: in the Middle East because he says, well, what Hamas 297 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: did was terrible, but he said, what's happening to the Palestinians. 298 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: The occupation is unbearable. And I got to admit, of 299 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: all the clips of Obama, that might be the one 300 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 3: that pisses me off the most. I actually did yesterday 301 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 3: Megan Kelly's show her podcast in New York and was 302 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 3: talking about the book, and she played that clip for me. 303 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: And I try to try to speak reasonably and respectably, 304 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 3: and I try to limit my cursing, but she played 305 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: it to me and I just said, what utter bullshit. 306 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: And by the way, anytime I say something like that, 307 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 3: my father will call or text me and say, would 308 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: you please watch your language. That's that's not really a 309 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 3: good thing to do. And my dad's right on that, 310 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 3: but it just it's infuriating. And it's like, look, Obama, 311 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: you sent over one hundred million dollars to the Ayatola, 312 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 3: to Iran, You funded these Hamas terrorists, You set flooded 313 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 3: money into the Gaza strip, you put money directly in 314 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 3: the hands of these death squads and you say we're 315 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: all complicit. And by the way, you're repeating the bigoted, 316 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 3: racist lie that there's an occupation. The Gaza Strip is 317 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 3: not occupied. Hamas controls the Gaza Strip. Israel left the 318 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: Gaza Strip. It's entirely the Palestinian There is no occupation 319 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: zero in Gaza. And yet you know, is Barack Obama 320 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: capable of saying it was a mistake to send a 321 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars to the iatola who chanced death to 322 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: American death to Israel. 323 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: No? 324 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 3: Is Joe Biden capable of saying it was a mistake 325 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: for him to send nearly a hundred million dollars to 326 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 3: Iran subsequently when that money was used to fund the 327 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: worst terror attack on Israel in over fifty years. 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You mentioned education and how it's 358 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 2: easiest way to change a country in one generation, but 359 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: there was also one of the things you said on 360 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 2: page sixty four. 361 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: It says how to fight back. 362 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: You said, a few years ago, you walked in to 363 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: your daughter's bedroom and asked what she'd been learning about 364 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: in school. She said she had been learning about Christopher Columbus, 365 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: the quote unquote real story. 366 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: I asked what that meant. 367 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: For the next few minutes, I heard about the crimes 368 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 2: of Christopher Columbus in minute detail. Every murdered Native American, 369 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: transmitted disease, and stolen acre of lamb seemed to be 370 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: accounted for. I heard that Columbus, who claimed the land 371 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 2: for himself because his straight white privilege or something like that, 372 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: had not actually discovered anything at all, but rather had 373 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 2: landed on the shores of what would come to be 374 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: known as America by accident. This quote unquote revolution, familiar 375 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: to most adults in the United States, is something that 376 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 2: American children encounter sooner or later in a textbook, believing 377 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: that they've accessed some secret, hidden knowledge that the grown 378 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: ups don't want them to have. That moment, for me 379 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: is the moment that terrifies me for our kids in 380 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: this my kids generation, is that we have handed our 381 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: children over to this school systems. And it's not just 382 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: public schools now, it's private schools as well, who are 383 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 2: indoctrinating them in this idea that America somehow was started 384 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 2: on evil, bad motives and that you should not love 385 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: this country, but you should be ashamed this country. 386 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: And you had to deal with this with your own daughter. 387 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 3: Look, that's exactly right. And the problem is this indoctrination 388 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: is happening in every school in America. It's happening to 389 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 3: every child in America. And what I describe part of 390 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: the way that this book is all about how we 391 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 3: fight back. But you know, as she was saying that 392 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: Columbus was evil and racist and genocidal and terrible, and 393 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: she hated Christopher Columbus, you know, I just just sat 394 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 3: down in her bedroom and I tried to have a 395 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: conversation with her, and I said, look, I'm not deeply 396 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: vested in making the argument that Christopher Columbus was some 397 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: incredible hero, But I said, you know what, we do 398 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 3: have a federal holiday named after him. Do we typically 399 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: name federal holidays after evil, racist, genocidal maniacs, like, might 400 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 3: there be another side of the story? Is there anything 401 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: admirable about them? And she was not really able to 402 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: see much that was admirble. I said, well, what do 403 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 3: you think about getting in three rooky rickety wooden ships, 404 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: and and and leaving Europe and and and heading heading 405 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 3: west when you think you're falling off the edge of 406 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 3: the world to explore and discover? I mean, I mean, 407 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 3: is that spirit, that intrepid spirit? Is that anything to 408 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: be admired? And and and I said, secondly, look, it 409 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 3: is true that Columbus and and and the man who 410 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 3: traveled with him, that that that they carried some some 411 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 3: germs that that that were that were new to to 412 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: the to the western hemisphere, and that when they got 413 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: here some of the some of the Native Americans died 414 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 3: from those germs. Now, it's also true it was the 415 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 3: fifteenth century. They didn't know what a germ was, so 416 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: they didn't know they were carrying it. And and when 417 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: you accuse him of mass murder, does culpability matter? Does 418 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 3: the fact that they didn't know what a germ was, 419 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 3: they had no idea they were doing it? That is 420 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 3: that at all relevant? If you're going to call him 421 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: this evil, terrible murder. And when I talk about in 422 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: the book is not long thereafter Thanksgiving of that year, 423 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 3: we were talking about Thanksgiving, and she and a friend 424 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: of hers from school and this is when they were 425 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 3: in grade school, said likewise, oh, Thanksgiving is terrible. It's 426 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: when the pilgrims were oppressing the Native Americans. And you know, 427 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: again I made the argument, I think even more vigorously 428 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: this time, and I said, listen, it is certainly right 429 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: that the settlers that came to America, that they settled America, 430 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 3: and they ultimately conquered America, and they they committed some 431 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 3: terrible acts to Native Americans. But if you look at 432 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 3: the history of humanity in every continent, every nation was 433 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: acquired by conquest. And every time there's conquest, you have 434 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: one group of people who are conquering another group of people. 435 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: By the way, in the United States, before we were 436 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: the United States, the Native Americans, one tribe conquered, another 437 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: conquered or another conquered another. And you look at Europe, 438 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 3: you look at Asia. That's the history of humanity, one 439 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 3: group of people conquering another. And anytime you have conquest, 440 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: there are are horrible things that happen. They're terrible things 441 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: that are done. But I said, look, in any war, 442 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 3: there were atrocities on both sides. And you know, I asked, 443 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 3: I asked my daughter. I said, you know, from whence 444 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 3: do you think the verb to scalp was derived? The 445 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 3: Native Americans did some horrible things to the settlers who 446 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: came here also, And the connection that I made for her, 447 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: and that I make in the book is those two 448 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 3: discussions are interlinked and intertwined. Which is for all of 449 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: the teachers and all of the professors, and all of 450 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 3: the people advocating that Columbus was evil and advocating that 451 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving is evil because the pilgrims were stealing from the 452 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: Native Americans, it comes down to one antecedent question. Was 453 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: the settlement of the New World a good thing or 454 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: a bad thing? Was the formation of the United States 455 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: of America good or bad? And I'm not neutral or 456 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 3: ambivalent on that question. I think the United States of 457 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 3: America has been the greatest force for good of any 458 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: nation in the history of the world. That we have 459 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: produced more prosperity, more abundance, we have liberated more prisoners 460 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 3: and captives, We have shed our blood and treasure and 461 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 3: tears fighting tyranny more than any nation in the history 462 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 3: of the world. Do we have our flaws, yes, of course. 463 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: Do we have our problems, yes, of course. But America, 464 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 3: I believe, like Reagan said, is a shining city on hill. 465 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 3: And I want to make a special request of our 466 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: vertical listeners. You guys are incredible. You guys are patriots. 467 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 3: You guys give me hope and optimism in America. I 468 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: want to ask every one of you please today, when 469 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: you finished listening to this podcast, most of you are 470 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 3: listening on your cell phones, click over to Amazon, type 471 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: in unwoke and buy the book. 472 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: Right now. 473 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 3: We have nearly a million unique listeners who listen to Verdict. 474 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 3: If every one of you goes online and buys the book, 475 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: it would soar to the very tops of the New 476 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 3: York Times bestseller list. That would drive them nuts. By 477 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 3: the way, and I wrote this book for the same reason, Ben, 478 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: that you and I do this podcast. It is right 479 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: now eleven three pm on Tuesday night. The podcast will 480 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: come out early Wednesday morning. Why am I sitting here 481 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 3: at eleven o three? Why are you sitting here at 482 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 3: eleven o three. Because we care about this. We want 483 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 3: we want our incredible listeners to be armed with information 484 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 3: and know how to fight to save this country. And 485 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 3: this book is exactly in the same spirit. The book 486 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 3: is I think, interesting and fun. It's not some abstract 487 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: academic treatise, but it's designed. When you read it, you'll 488 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 3: enjoy it. And by the way, I encourage you. Look, 489 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: if I can be immodest for a second, don't buy 490 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: just one. You know Christmas is coming up very soon. 491 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: Buy a copy for your mom, buy a copy for 492 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 3: your brother, buy a copy for your next door neighbor, 493 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 3: your best friend. Because the reason that I spend the 494 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 3: time to write these books, the reason that you and 495 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: I do this podcast, is we either persuade and win 496 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: hearts and minds or we lose America. That's what the 497 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 3: stakes are, and that's what this book is about. It's 498 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 3: the exact same thing the podcast is about. 499 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: You mentioned that what we're up against in one of 500 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: your chapters is about the newsroom revolution, and you start 501 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: with a great story of a former colleague of mine 502 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 2: that is hard to deal with, Jake Tapper in a 503 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: fight is he's in essence calling you a liar and 504 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: This is the new thing that the media has done. 505 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 2: They've become so sanctimonious that they are always looking for 506 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 2: a moment to tell you why you're wrong and why 507 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 2: they're brilliant. We've seen this in the last several days 508 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 2: is they've been demanding a ceasefire to protect the terrorists 509 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: in Gaza. Who the who the Israelis are trying to 510 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: eradicate from the face of this earth with good reason 511 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 2: after what they did just one month ago. And we 512 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: talked about this on Verdict Israel. We knew was on 513 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 2: a on an artificial clock the day the terrorists attack 514 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: happened before the media, before the left started going to 515 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 2: the aid of Hamas and and and the Palaesinian people 516 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: that were backing Hamas, many them that were and saying, okay, 517 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 2: all right, you had a few days now to go 518 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 2: after these terrorists. Now you've got to stop it now. 519 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: Now it's your your your obligation to stop trying to 520 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: protect yourself. 521 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: And this is our media now. 522 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 2: And it goes back to this this idea that they have, 523 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 2: which is they're better than everyone else. They're not here 524 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 2: to report news anymore. They're here to go after people 525 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: like you. And others that they don't like and indoctrinate 526 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: a nation to believe in socialism and communism and Marxism. 527 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: Look that that is exactly right, and and and the 528 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 3: media has fundamentally changed. And so the chapter on on journalism, 529 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: I talk about how when I was first elected to 530 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: the Senate eleven years ago, and I actually focus on 531 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 3: CNN as really a case lesson eleven years ago CNN 532 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: they aspired to be journalists. If you ask them, they'd say, 533 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: we want to be journalists. We want to present both sides. 534 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 3: We want to be fair and objective and balanced, and 535 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 3: we want to focus on facts and not our opinion. Now, 536 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 3: they were terrible at it. They leaned hard left and 537 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: they couldn't help themselves. But that was the objective. Number one, 538 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: they would articulate to you they were trying to achieve. 539 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 3: But number two, I think they believed in their heart 540 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 3: they were trying to do that. And so when I 541 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 3: was first elected to the Senate. You may find this 542 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 3: hard to believe, but I went on CNN just about 543 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: every week. I went on there over and over and 544 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 3: over again, and they would give you a chance to 545 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: lay out a conservative argument, and they'd attack you from 546 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: the left, and they'd be unfair and they'd play gotcha questions, 547 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: but they would give you a chance to present the 548 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: other side. And what happened is when Donald Trump became president, 549 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 3: and I think it fundamentally broke the media. Their brains shattered. 550 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: They hated him so much that today the media no 551 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 3: longer views its vision as being journalists, as being fair 552 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: and impartial and presenting both sides. Instead, they have embraced 553 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: a vision that they are advocates, they are defenders of democracy, 554 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 3: and what they mean by democracy is left wing radical policies. 555 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 3: And so the story I tell in the very beginning 556 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 3: of the journalism chapter is during the presidential race, I 557 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: was out on the campaign trip, was actually in our 558 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: campaign bus, and I was doing an interview with Jake Tapper. 559 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: And look, I'll confess I like Jake. I've known Jake 560 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 3: for over twenty years. I've known Jake since he was 561 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: a CUB reporter on the George W. Bush two thousand 562 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 3: campaign and I was a baby staffer on it, and 563 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: so I've known him a long time. And he was 564 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 3: interviewing me for his Sunday show and we did an 565 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: interview and it was I don't remember, probably ten minutes 566 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: or so. And I had learned a lesson, and it's 567 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 3: something that I do with every Sunday show, which is 568 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: that I insist that the Sunday Show either be live 569 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: or it'd be live to tape. And the reason I 570 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 3: learned that is I had done just a few weeks 571 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,239 Speaker 3: earlier in an interview with Bob Sheefer at CBS, and 572 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: Bob Schefer I hadn't insisted on that, and he'd done 573 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 3: the interview, and then afterwards his show had edited it 574 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 3: and it basically cut out every good argument I made 575 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: and just put this slash job where he decimated me 576 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: because he excluded all my good answers and just edited 577 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: it in a way that was really deceptive. And I said, okay, 578 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 3: never again. If we do one of these, they must 579 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 3: air what I actually say. And I said, look, if 580 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: you want to give me five minutes or six or 581 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: eight or ten or twelve or whatever, you can pick 582 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: the time. But when we film it, you air exactly 583 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: what happens during that time. So we had agreed with 584 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: that with CNN, and in the course of the interview, 585 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 3: we were talking about the shooting at Fort Hood and 586 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: Nadal Hassan, who was the radical Islamist who had walked 587 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: through and murdered fourteen innocent souls yelling at a Luha awkbar. 588 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 3: And I mentioned that the Obama administration knew that Hassan 589 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: was a radical jahadist. They knew that he had been 590 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 3: in email communication with Anwar al Alaki, who was the 591 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: Islamist cleric, the radical that he'd asked al Alaki about 592 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 3: the permissibility of waging jahad on his fellow soldiers. And 593 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: yet the Obama administration did nothing until he committed that 594 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 3: act of mass murder. And when I said all of that, 595 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: Jake immediately interrupted and he said, that's not true. No, 596 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: that's not right, and he said, what you're saying is 597 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 3: fundamentally false. That's a lie, it's not true. And you know, 598 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 3: I just kind of smiled, and I said, well, you know, Jakes, 599 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: as John Adams said, facts are stubborn things, and what 600 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 3: I'm saying is entirely accurate. And and you know, when 601 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 3: you reach search the issue, that's exactly what you're going 602 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: to find out. So we do the interview, Jake and 603 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: his production team leaves the bus, and I don't know 604 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 3: five ten minutes later, there's a knock on the door 605 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: of the bus and we open it. It's Jake and 606 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 3: he's very sheepish, and he said, hey, can to come 607 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: in and talk. 608 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: For a second. 609 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 3: I said, yeah, sure, come on in and he said, look, 610 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: after we did the interview, he said, I went and 611 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: got on the internet and I researched it, and actually, 612 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: you were right, he said. I didn't know that I 613 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 3: had missed. I just had not seen the revelation that 614 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 3: the Obama administration knew it. It just I couldn't believe it. 615 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: But turns out you were right. 616 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: I was wrong. 617 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: And Jake said, listen, I'll give you a choice. We 618 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 3: can do it one of two ways. 619 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: He said. 620 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: I agreed we would do this live to tape, and 621 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 3: so if you want, I will air it exactly as 622 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 3: it happened, and then after I air it, I will 623 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 3: come on live and I'll say after the interview, I 624 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 3: researched it, and it turns out I was wrong, and 625 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: Cruz was right. What he said was exactly right, and 626 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 3: I was an error when I said he was not 627 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 3: telling the truth. He said, that's option number one. He 628 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 3: said option number two, which he said, I'd really much 629 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: prefer is that we just edit out that segment. We 630 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 3: just remove it from the interview, and we air everything 631 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: else and just not include that segment. And I described 632 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 3: in the book that you know, I thought about it, 633 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: and it was obviously in my self interest to pick 634 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: option number one. That like having CNN having Tapper admit 635 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 3: he was full of crap. And I was right, that 636 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: was a big political victory. But I also expected that 637 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 3: I would be doing a whole lot more interviews with 638 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 3: Tapper and with CNN, and I frankly respected how he 639 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 3: approached it. That he came to me and he admitted 640 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 3: he was wrong, and he gave me that option I 641 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: thought was an honorable way to handle it. And so 642 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 3: I made what I would say is a long term 643 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 3: play rather than a short term play, and I said, Okay, 644 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 3: you can go ahead and cut the segment out, and 645 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 3: so they did, so the story I recount in the 646 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: book that segment never aired because CNN cut the segment out. 647 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: I focus on Tapper in particular because I think he's 648 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: a smart guy, and I think he wants to be 649 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: a journalist, and I think in his heart right now, 650 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 3: he knows that he's not that Trump broke Tapper that 651 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 3: now CNN will have a panel of five experts there 652 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 3: to discuss true or not Donald Trump is the devil, 653 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 3: and all five of them agree, of course he's the devil. 654 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: No, he's worse than the devil. That's the whole debate. 655 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 3: And you know, look, CNN used to be a place 656 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 3: if you go back to twenty seventeen. In twenty seventeen, 657 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 3: I did three town hall debates on CNN with Bernie Sanders. 658 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 3: We did one on healthcare and two on tax policy, 659 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 3: and they were great debates. I think they were among, 660 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 3: if not the highest rated shows on CNN that whole year. 661 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: They were ninety minutes. Bernie is an unapologetic defender of socialism. 662 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 3: I'm an unapologic defender of capitalism. And we had a 663 00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 3: real and substim debate that CNN doesn't exist anymore, and 664 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 3: it's bad for America, it's bad for the world that 665 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 3: we don't have functioning journalism. And I describe all of 666 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 3: this in the book, but I also describe how because 667 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 3: journalism corporate media is broken, it's part of what makes 668 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 3: the radical Democrats so extreme, why they vote for such 669 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 3: ridiculous policy positions that are so out of the mainstream 670 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 3: because they know they will never ever ever get asked 671 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 3: about it by reporters back home. They will never have 672 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 3: to defend it, and so it's radicalized the Democrat Party 673 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 3: in Washington. 674 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:31,919 Speaker 1: Senat. 675 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: There's another part of your book that I want to 676 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 2: mention real quick, and it's a trend. 677 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: Whether it's you talking about big tech or the. 678 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 2: Schools or Marxism in Washington. The list goes on on, 679 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 2: especially when you have a lot talking here about science 680 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 2: and COVID. That chapter is probably my favorite. As I 681 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: was reading it today, I was marking it out. But 682 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: there's a trend in this book and I love this. 683 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 2: This may be my favorite part. Is you at each 684 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 2: in each chapter, in essence, ask how do you fight back? 685 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: How to reclaim control? How do we win? 686 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 2: It's not just a book of you ranting about issues, 687 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 2: but you actually lay out how we can succeed and 688 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 2: get our and win on our side of the argument. 689 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: And that's what empowers the reader to not just read 690 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 2: a book, but to take something from it. 691 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 3: And I love that well. It is critically important. And 692 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 3: there are all sorts of elements of how we fight 693 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 3: back and win. One of it is transparency and sunshine. 694 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 3: The views of the radical left are wildly unpopular. Look, 695 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 3: no rational person supports abolishing the police. That's a nutty position. 696 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 3: No rational person supports open borders and the chaos at 697 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 3: our southern border. No rational person supports medically and surgically 698 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 3: sterilizing and castrating eight year old children. No rational person 699 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 3: is befuddled by the question what is a woman? All 700 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 3: of those are ninety ten issues, and the radical Left 701 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 3: is on the extreme minority position on every one of them. 702 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 3: It's why they rely on force rather than persuasion, because 703 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 3: their positions are out there and so often shining a 704 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 3: light is really, really potent. And I'm gonna give it 705 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 3: an example. I'm gonna give an example from Verdict. So 706 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 3: we had a podcast several weeks ago that was entitled 707 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 3: black Lives Matter is Hamas, and we walk through how 708 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 3: black lives matter as a statement is a truism. It's 709 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 3: absolutely true, yes, period the end. However, Black Lives Matter, 710 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 3: the organization Black Lives Matter, Inc. Is a very different thing. 711 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 3: It is found founded by a vowed Marxists who are 712 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: trained Marxists. They're trained and fomenting communist rev that's their 713 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 3: own self description, not our language, their language. They are 714 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: vicious racists and they are deeply, deeply antisemitic. They hate Israel. Indeed, 715 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 3: one of the co founders of Black Lives Matter has 716 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: called since nineteen ninety five for the destruction of the 717 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,439 Speaker 3: state of Israel. And on our podcast, we laid out 718 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 3: all of that evidence, and then we named names of 719 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 3: all of the or number of the giant corporations who 720 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 3: had given millions of dollars to Black Lives Matter, and 721 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 3: then included Amazon and Apple and Coca Cola, and we said, listen, 722 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 3: do these companies do you support vicious racism, Do you 723 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 3: support vicious anti Semitism? Do you support demanding the destruction 724 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,880 Speaker 3: of the state of Israel? Do you support these avowed 725 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 3: Marxists because you gave money to them? That podcast came out, 726 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 3: I believe, October eighteenth. The next day, Coca Cola went 727 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 3: online and they scrubbed their website to remove every reference 728 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 3: to the five hundred thousand dollars that they had given 729 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 3: to Black Lives Matter. And it was a direct result 730 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 3: of this Verdict podcast. We put the podcast out and 731 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 3: almost immediately they erased it. Now they thought they could 732 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 3: do it quietly they could just hide and evade responsibility. 733 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 3: I'm calling them out. I'm calling them out, and I'm 734 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 3: shining a light, and I'm saying, look, have you apologized 735 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 3: to the American people for why you were funding a 736 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: viciously racist and anti Semitic organization And it wasn't a secret, 737 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 3: they were open about it. Then you just didn't care 738 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: because your woke politics mattered more to you than doing 739 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 3: the right thing. And that's one of the strategies that 740 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,839 Speaker 3: is inherent in this book is shining the light and 741 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 3: calling them out. And that's how you win victories. In 742 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 3: chapter after chapter, I talk about winning victories. Whether it's 743 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,319 Speaker 3: winning school board seats back, or flipping Virginia Red as 744 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 3: parents got furious, or whether it's Elon Musk buying Twitter. 745 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,280 Speaker 3: All of these are strategies where we take these institutions back. 746 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: It's an incredible book, Center and congratulations on it. It's 747 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 2: one that I hope everybody listening will go grab. You 748 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 2: can go to Amazon right now, you can order it. 749 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 2: It's a fabulous Christmas gift. It is three hundred and 750 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 2: fifty six pages from beginning to end. One of the 751 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 2: chapters that you've got to read. If you get it, 752 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 2: make sure you read the big text chapter and also science. 753 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: The science chapter to me was one that as I 754 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 2: was reading it centator. I know you well enough to 755 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: know when you really get passionate about something. 756 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: You were really really passionate. 757 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 2: When writing that chapter on science and what has happened 758 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 2: and how science has just been totally corrupted, whether it's 759 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,280 Speaker 2: by Fauci or others that are pushing agendas through science. 760 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 2: And those are two chapters I just want to mark 761 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 2: for people. Make sure you take a look at those 762 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 2: as well. Grab the book Unwoke How to defeed a 763 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 2: Cultural Marxism in America. You can get on Amazon. Order 764 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 2: it now wherever you get your books. Don't forget hit 765 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 2: that follow subscribe or auto download button wherever you're listening 766 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: to this podcast. We do this podcast Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays. 767 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 2: We also have a recap pod on Saturday mornings. That 768 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: is some of the things deeper in each podcast maybe 769 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 2: you miss because of time restraint, so make sure you 770 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 2: check that out as well. And on those in between days, 771 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 2: I'd love for you to join me as I'll keep 772 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 2: you update on breaking news on my podcast, The Ben 773 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 2: Ferguson podcasts as well on those in between days, so 774 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: make sure you download that as well in the center, 775 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: and I will see you back here in a couple 776 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 2: of days.