1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome in final hour of the week Clay Travis buck 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: We're about to be joined by Nicole Parker, former FBI 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: special agent, Fox News contributor. But want to fill you 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: in with a little bit of news, kind of significant 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: if you have been out and have not heard this yet. 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: First of all, Trump is on the ground in Texas 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: touring the flood ravaged areas around Kerrville. We will update 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: you on anything that comes from that visit if it 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: happens in this hour. 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 2: Just fyi. That is where the President is right now. 12 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 2: Breaking news. 13 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: While the President has been traveling to Texas, there were 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: axios initially reported on a blow up inside of the 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: White House between FBI officials Dan Bongino, the Deputy Director 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: in particular, and the Attorney General Pam Bondi over the 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: way that information has been released surrounding the Epstein investigation. 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: There is a belief on the FBI side that the 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: AG's office, Pambondy in particular, has over promised and underdelivered 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: and not been great in terms of her communication on 21 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: this case. And there are now reports, according to our 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: friend Julie Kelly, who I believe is accurate. I trust 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: her reporting on this. That Dan Bongino may have said, 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: it's either her or me. That is the deputy director 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: of the FBI, maybe also Cash Bettel. We don't know 26 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: exactly how his position is impacted here. And Pambondi that 27 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: Trump needs to make a choice. It's either she stays 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: as ag or or Bongino stays in the FBI. Okay, 29 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: that is. 30 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: Where we are. 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Nicole Parker, you have heard us talking and discussing all 32 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: of this Epstein chaos. You used to work in the 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: FBI South Florida office, So let's start with that. To me, 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: the actual linchpin of all of this that has become 35 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: of a criminal nature starts with that investigation, and I 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: believe it was Acosta was the prosecutor there, appears to 37 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: have let Jeffrey Epstein off on a very sweetheart deal. 38 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: There. 39 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: You're from the FBI office down in South Florida. What 40 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: do you think about the optics surrounding that initial part 41 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: of this story. 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: That's a very important element of what's been going on. 43 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: I'm just going to full disclosure. I don't represent anyone 44 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: but my own personal opinions. Based on my experience as 45 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: a special agent with the FBI. I'll make that very clear. 46 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: I never sensationalized things. I just tell the fact. Sometimes 47 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: it comes across as boring, but I just tell it 48 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: like it is based on my perspective. I have never 49 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 3: been a big follower of the Epstein story from the 50 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: civilian side of life. I was a special agent with 51 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 3: the FBI and the Miami Division in the Southern District 52 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: of Florida, and as we know, Palm Beach is in 53 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 3: the area of responsibility of FBI Miami. Prior to my 54 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: joining the FBI, this case was going on. This dates 55 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: back to the early two thousands and so I do 56 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: think it's important for your listeners to remember how much 57 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: history there is here. This is a sick, disgusting, evil, 58 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: and abhorrent man who abused and trafficked miners for years 59 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 3: and so again, going back, like you said, it was 60 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: back in two thousand and eight, actually a very controversial 61 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: plea deal was signed with the US Attorney in the 62 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: Southern District of Florida, alex Acosta, involving the locals as well. 63 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: And basically, if we go back, it was May of 64 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 3: two thousand and six, that the state Attorney in the 65 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: state of Florida, Barry Kushner, charged Epstein with one count 66 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: of soliciting prostitution. Palm Beach Law Enforcement Palm beat Sheriff's 67 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: office was concerned about how that was handled. They reported 68 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 3: the information to the FBI FBI Miami Division in July 69 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: of two thousand and six, so it was referred to 70 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 3: the FBI. They launched a full investigation. Again, I was 71 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: not at the FBI at that time, but I can 72 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: tell you that when I joined, I spoke to agents 73 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: that were extremely frustrated with how much work the FBI 74 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: did and it was not charged by you know, we 75 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: all know that the Department of Justice makes the proscctorial decisions. Again, 76 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 3: this is dating back to two thousand and six. In 77 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 3: June of two thousand and seven, it was actually a 78 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: US attorney Alex Acosta. At the time, he was actually 79 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: preparing a fifty three page indictment against Epstein, Right, so 80 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 3: all these FBI agents that have been working so hard 81 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: are like, oh good, you know he's going to be 82 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: held accountable as he should. They did a thorough investigation, 83 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 3: and then in October of two thousand and seven, the 84 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 3: US attorney or that seems jorneys, and they signed a 85 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: non prosecution agreement and they it was like a sweetheart 86 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: deal that he was able to plead guilty to two 87 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: fellowy prosecution charges. As we know, in comparison to a 88 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: sex trafficking charge, that's a little slap on the wrist. 89 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: As we've seen with the Diddy case. What did he 90 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 3: got convicted of is a slap on their wrist compared 91 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 3: to the other charges that he faced. So in June 92 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: two thousand and eight, Epstein please guilty to the two 93 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 3: lesser counts and he's sentenced to eighteen months in jail. Again, 94 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 3: slap on their wrist. He reports to the Palm County Jail. 95 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: He's released early. And in July of twenty nineteen, it 96 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: resurfaces because they're victims, real victims of this heinous crime, 97 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: multiple heinous crimes of this man, and they come forward 98 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: and with the Me Too movement, it brought a lot 99 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: of interest, and those victims never had justice served properly 100 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 3: for what occurred to them. And again, as an FBI 101 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 3: agent who has worked these types of the investigations, your 102 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: number one priority is the victim. They have rights, they 103 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: should be protected, and I appreciate that they resurface this investigation. 104 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: Southern District of New York goes in and in July 105 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: of twenty nineteen, Epstein was arrested at the Teterborough, New 106 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: Jersey airport as he was coming in from a trip 107 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: from Paris, and he was charged with sex trafficking of 108 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 3: minor girls and a conspiracy to commit sex trafficking. And 109 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: it dates all the way back to two thousand and 110 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 3: two to two thousand and five, trafficking in Florida Palm 111 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 3: Beach area as well as his New York residence. So 112 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: women started coming forward even after he was charged. Over 113 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: a dozen women come forward, and the FBI says, hey, 114 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,239 Speaker 3: if you are a victim of this monster, basically, please 115 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: come forward, and over a dozen women came forward. So 116 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 3: again he has over one thousand victims of this nasty, abhorrent, 117 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: evil thing that he had been doing for years. And 118 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: we all know he was arrested, he went to jail, 119 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 3: and then in August of twenty nineteen, before he even 120 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: went to trial, that is the when he was found 121 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: dead in his jail cell in federal prison. And at 122 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 3: the time, the FBI does a full investigation it was 123 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: ruled that it was a suicide by hanging. There were 124 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: a lot of people that did not necessarily agree with that. 125 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: We all know that the bottom girl in a sex 126 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 3: trafficking ring, they're the bottom girl. She's basically the one 127 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 3: that recruits the victims, and that we all know is Maxwell, 128 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: and she was arrested in twenty twenty. She was the 129 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 3: one that helped to recruit these miners underage girls. And 130 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: in December of twenty twenty one, she was found guilty 131 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 3: after a four week trial, and she started her prison sentence, 132 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: a twenty year federal prison sentence. She started in June 133 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: of twenty twenty two. And again, we all know this 134 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: is a highly controversial case. It was not handled properly 135 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 3: in the first place. And again this is prior to 136 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 3: me joining the FBI, but upon my arrival in the 137 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 3: Southern District of Florida, there were agents that we're extremely 138 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: frustrated with how this is handled, even back into the 139 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: early two thousands. 140 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 1: What do you think's going on now, Nicole. We've had 141 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people very upset after the memo release 142 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Now I'm seeing the latest breaking news is 143 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: that Deputy Director Bongino, according to Kyle Becker on Twitter, 144 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: here has taken a leave of absence. I don't even 145 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: know if that's official or if that's just what people 146 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: are saying, but obviously there's something going on here. 147 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: What do you think's going on? 148 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: Again? I am always hesitant to speak out of turn 149 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: because I don't speak unless I know the facts. I 150 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: do not know the facts of those you know, thoughts 151 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: that people are putting out there are what people know. 152 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 3: I have not spoken to Dan Bongino. I have not spoken, 153 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 3: so that would be inappropriate for me to make a statement. 154 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. But what I do 155 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: know is that the FBI has been accused for years 156 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 3: of not being transparent, right. I mean, I left the 157 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: FBI because I did not agree with a lot of 158 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: the things. I thought it had been politically and socially weaponized, 159 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: and I thought that the FBI should be more transparent. 160 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: And I think that coming in with I think that 161 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: is the goal and it is a high priority of 162 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: Cashpitel of Dan Bongin now of Pam Bondi. These are 163 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 3: people that have been so frustrated, especially under the Biden administration, 164 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: with a lack of transparency. Americans are the taxpayers. At 165 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: the end of the day, they are our boss. And 166 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: when I was an FBI agent, it was a taxpayer 167 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: that was my boss, right And so I think that 168 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: they've made a conscious effort to be transparent. I think 169 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: the fact that they put this memo out, they reviewed things, 170 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: and I understand that people are very frustrated, and you know, well, 171 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: this is what the expectation was, and this is what 172 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: it is. And you know I again. 173 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I want to step appreciate that Nicole Parker, formerly 174 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: FBI and with Fox News, thank you for joining and 175 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: sharing your opinion on it. Thank you, that's Nicole Parker. 176 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: Appreciate that today's the last. By the way, load up 177 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: the phone lines. You can send us your emails again. Buck, 178 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: you said that there is a report that Dan Bongino's 179 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: taking a leave of absence, which would square with Hey, 180 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: it's me or it's ag BONDI. That is all breaking 181 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: news going on right now. Today's the last day of 182 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. 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Appreciate all 203 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. Friday edition of the program. 204 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: You just heard from Nicole Parker, former FBI agent in 205 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: South Florida. 206 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: Again, all of. 207 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: This starting with an FBI investigation that took place in 208 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: South Florida, and CNN has now climbed on the Bongino 209 00:11:55,360 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: is threatening to resign train, and so I think this 210 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: thing is officially out of the U, out of the 211 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: proverbial what a go to be like the holding pattern 212 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: here Caitlin Collins saying it's accurate, Bongino has told people 213 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: he's considering resigning. Hard to overstate the infighting happening right now, 214 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: and it is continuing to grow. 215 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: So positive, let's be positive. It is Friday. 216 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: Is it possible, in your opinion, Buck, that Trump, like 217 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: a dad, can call the crew back into an Oval 218 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: office meeting or a meeting somewhere in the White House, 219 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: say hey, I want both of you to stay on, 220 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: and I don't want to have to make a decision 221 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: between either or here or once all this goes public, 222 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: does it become requisite effectively that Trump has to make 223 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: a decision And the first real significant departure, I would say, 224 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: of Trump two point zero is underway. If it's the 225 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: attorney general, who is ostensibly the boss of everyone in 226 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice, that is a huge position to 227 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: have to feel to fill, particularly given that even most 228 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: presidents deal with a lot of issues. But there's constant 229 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: legal turmoil surrounding Trump because the resistance two point zero 230 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: is primarily coming from the judiciary. 231 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's uh, it's been it's been a rough week. 232 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: It's been a tough week because that, I will say, 233 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: let's get uh, we got to call her Charles and 234 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: do we already take Charles? I'm sorry, Trump, Charles in 235 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: South Florida walks away and what's up Charles? Hey, gentlemen, 236 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: t gif um not a big fan of Pam Bondy. 237 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 2: I want to put my name in for Greg Jarrett 238 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: for a new. 239 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: Ag Okay, go well, Trump probably likes Greg Jarrett because 240 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: he's on Fox News all the time talking about legal 241 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: related issues, which doesn't hurt because there's a bunch of 242 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: former Fox News people in the cabinet. I don't know 243 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: that we need to get into handicapping who the new 244 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: attorney general should be. But let me say this, Bucks, 245 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: see if you would sign on with this. I think 246 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: what is interesting here is there is not actually a 247 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: disagreement about what is actually in the Epstein files. I 248 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: think Pambondi, Cash Betel, and Dan Bongino have reviewed these 249 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: files and there is, in their opinion, not prosecutable evidence 250 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: inside of the files. How do you tell people that 251 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: there is not prosecutable evidence in the files? And secondarily, 252 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: will they believe you no matter what they say after 253 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: the comments that abide, I think an important, important addendum 254 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: or a clarification on that clay is that there's not 255 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: not evidence to prosecute beyond Epstein, who is dead. Is 256 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: the point, because people right now are are they saying 257 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: that there were no crime? No, No one's saying they're 258 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: no crimes. Gonna mean Epstein was going to spend the 259 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: rest of his life in a cell. Everybody knows it. 260 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: That's why he died, Okay, you know, killed himself. That's 261 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: why whatever happened there happened because he was gone or 262 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: he was going to be gone in a cell for 263 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: the rest of his life. So it's not that there's 264 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: not evidence of Epstein's extreme crimes. 265 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: There's more. There's tons of evidence. 266 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: Of Epstein's extreme crimes, but people are asking about crimes 267 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: beyond that, and they're saying that they don't have that information. 268 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 2: Now. 269 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Dershowitz seems to be suggesting pretty clearly in that SoundBite 270 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: we played that they do have more information than they 271 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: have shared, but perhaps it is not information of any 272 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: crimes committed and would only be destructive or defamatory to 273 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: reputations of people who may not be guilty of any crimes. 274 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: And that's where everyone's getting real testy, and that's where 275 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: they're real you know, because well, if there are one 276 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: hundred people on a list and five of them did 277 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: really horrible stuff, but you don't know which five, does 278 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: the DJ release the list of the one hundred people? 279 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's essentially the conundrum in which 280 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: the DOJFBI situation is right now. I could be wrong, 281 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: but that's what I think is going on. Is they're 282 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: not releasing everything because a lot of people didn't do 283 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: anything wrong and they'll be named, and there are some 284 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: people who did things that are wrong, but they can't 285 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: prove it. So what's the point of releasing all the names? 286 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I think that may be where this is and that's 287 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: why a part of me, and again it's messy, and unfortunately, 288 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: as you just said, there's going to be a lot 289 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: of people who are sort of caught in the shrapnel 290 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: of the Epstein explosion. A part of me just thinks 291 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: you got to release everything. And here's the problem with that, 292 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: because of the promises that have been made about Epstein prosecutions. 293 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: Even if you release everything, there's going to be a 294 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: lot of people who say, I don't believe it. They 295 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: didn't actually release everything. So you're almost in unless you, 296 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, purple walk Bill Clinton out and Bill 297 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: Gates and other guys that have been associated with Epstein 298 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: in any way in handcuffs. Many of those people are 299 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: not going to be satisfied. So I think Trump is 300 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: in a tough spot here, honestly. And if he's got 301 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: his FBI and his Attorney General's office feuding with each 302 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: other and potentially saying it's me or her, then I 303 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: mean he's This is why you're the president. The tough 304 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: decisions get brought to your desk, and it's much more 305 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: serious than this. But your analogy of it's kind of 306 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: like the Apprentice. Two people sit across the resolute desk 307 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: and make an argument about why they deserve to continue to. 308 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: Have their job. It's kind of like that. I think 309 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 2: that's where we are. 310 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: I don't see how all three of the big names 311 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 1: involved at the top of the Trump justice apparatus, meaning DOJFBI. 312 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: I don't see how they all continue to work together 313 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: after this. I don't see how that's possible. Really, that's 314 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: the problem. Yeah, too much of a distraction out of 315 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: Madam Minimum. Israeli Prime Minister net Yahoo claims that there 316 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: are still twenty living hostages in Gaza and he has 317 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: every intention of bringing them home. 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Let's 335 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: just all be grateful for how amazing we try it 336 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: is that we're all here. And then mushroom cloud surrounding 337 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: the FBI, d OJ and the Epstein mess, and are 338 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: we do we have like a moment of positivity for 339 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: people that are watching on video? Yes, well, if you 340 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: become a YouTube subscriber, and many of you have signed up, 341 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: you go to YouTube dot com slash at Clayndbuck, you'll 342 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: see things like here we go. But so you'd have 343 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: to be a YouTube watcher to see this. Whoops, make 344 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: sure I got a good grip. 345 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 2: We're just bringing in a baby. So it's been a 346 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 2: tough show. 347 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: There's lots of infighting, there's lots of mess going on, 348 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: and so Buck. 349 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: Was like, oh, that is an amazingly cute little baby. Here. 350 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: How old is James now? James James Speed is three 351 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 2: months old today. 352 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: Actually, so this is the if you're like, wait a minute, 353 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: you're just shifting stories. 354 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 2: This is what babies are for. 355 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: They helped to make people happier so we have just 356 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: brought in a three month old baby. By the way, 357 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: you will see this if you go subscribe at Clay 358 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: and Buck. A thousand of you yesterday went and did 359 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: this after Buck promised that you would get to see 360 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: his firstborn. Right there is a super cute, awesome little 361 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: baby boy. So our relative, the former Attorney general, look 362 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: at that under Abraham Lincoln. 363 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: So there you go. 364 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: That is awesome. So there you will see this on 365 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: YouTube if you probably will put it up at clayanbuck 366 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: dot com. As we roll into the weekend, I think 367 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: we just needed we just needed a moment with a 368 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: baby positivity. Bring a baby, Okay, So on Trump. Trump 369 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: is in Texas dealing with the flood aftermath of the disaster, 370 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: which started off this week, maybe because this is a Friday, 371 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: the fact that everywhere is the report. Now, we started 372 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: it off about an hour and a half ago, I 373 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: would say we were probably ahead of the curve and 374 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: letting you know that this was potentially going to be 375 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: an issue. And if you just getting in your car, 376 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: you're just starting off your day, you haven't been paying 377 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: attention to the news reports that Deputy FBI Director Dan 378 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: Bongino has said it's basically either me or Attorney General 379 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: Pam Bondi over the fallout surrounding the Epstein investigation. There's 380 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: a belief that on the side of the FBI that 381 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: Attorney General Pambondy has over promised and under delivered. And 382 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: do we have the audio? Did Greg pull the audio 383 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: for us yet? Of these clips that have gone megaviral 384 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: of Pam Bondi saying basically, hey, these files are on 385 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: my desk, and trying to walk back what she has said. 386 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: We know that they had the binder surrounding everything that 387 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: was put out there. Okay, let me just this is 388 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: a flashback first cut thirty three. Here, this is February 389 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: twenty first twenty twenty five. Pam Bondi says, the Epstein 390 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: client list is sitting on my desk right now. This 391 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: was on Fox News America's newsroom, John Roberts asking the questions. 392 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: She's tried to say she didn't mean the actual list, 393 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: but this is what they talk about when they say 394 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: over promise, under deliver Cut thirty three DJ maybe releasing 395 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients, Well, that really happen. 396 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 5: It's sitting on my desk. Right now to review. That's 397 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 5: been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. I'm 398 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 5: reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process 399 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: of being reviewed because that was done at the directive 400 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 5: of the president from all of these agencies. 401 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: So so have you seen anything there? You said, Oh, 402 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: my gosh, not yet. 403 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: Okay, good follow up to be fair by John Roberts. 404 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: And again, the client list and the Epstein list and 405 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: all these things. List is a very interesting phrase, right, 406 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 1: because what is the list consist of? Is it people 407 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: who flew on the airplane, which can be legal? 408 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: Right? 409 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people can't have legally flown on the airplane, 410 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: which I read did six hundred trips a year or something. 411 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: I mean, this was a jet that he had that 412 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: flew everywhere. Was it client list, meaning he invested with people, 413 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: many of whom may have known nothing about his private life. 414 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: So that's a mess. But it implicated and certainly implied 415 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: that there was going to be a release and that 416 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: there would be some consequences for people who might have 417 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: engaged in crimes alongside of Epstein. That was cut one. 418 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: That's February twenty first. She then said on our friend 419 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. This was in March that the Epstein 420 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: client list was sitting on her desk and that it 421 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: was a truckload, a truckload of documents. 422 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 2: This is cut thirty four. 423 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 5: Listen, you're looking at these dot It's going these aren't 424 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 5: all the Epstein files. You know, there were flight logs, 425 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 5: there were names and victims' names, and we're going, where's 426 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 5: the rest of the stuff. And that's what the FBI 427 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 5: had turned over to us. And so a source said, oh, 428 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 5: all this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of 429 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 5: New York. So based on that, I gave them the 430 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 5: deadline Friday at eight, a truckload of evidence arrive. It's 431 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 5: now in the possession of the FBI. Cash is going 432 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 5: to get me and himself really a detailed report as 433 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 5: to why all these documents and evidence had been withheld, 434 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 5: and you know, we're going to go through it, go 435 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 5: through it as fast as we can, but go through 436 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 5: it very cautiously to protect all the victims of Epstein, 437 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 5: because there are a lot of victims. 438 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Okay, truckload of documents evidence sitting on my desk. And 439 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: then to your point, Buck, suddenly on Sunday they come 440 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: out and say, hey, yeah, there's no real prosecutable evidence here, 441 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: and let's just move on. And a lot of people 442 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: have said, record scratch moment, what are you talking about. 443 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: We heard what you said February. We heard what you 444 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: said in March. I'm talking about Attorney General Pam BONDI. 445 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: How in the world can you now tell us truckloads 446 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: of documents stuff sitting on your desk. Oh, there's nothing here. 447 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: It's a mess. She over promised and has under delivered, 448 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: and that is a huge issue. Well, we would say 449 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: under any other circumstance that the public's faith and trust 450 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: in the Attorney General and more broadly in the Department 451 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: of Justice is important. It's not just about making the 452 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: right decision. It's about the perception that the right decisions 453 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: are being made and can be trusted. 454 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 2: Right. 455 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: So there's what you do, and there's also how the 456 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: people feel about what's going on. And you know the 457 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: fact that all you have to know is the fact 458 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: that we've got as many people as riled up as 459 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: they are right now. And I'm not disparaging it because 460 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: I understand the frustration and I understand the sense of 461 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: hiding the football or the political whiplash, because it's there, 462 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: it's real, and this has happened. 463 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 6: This. 464 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: I could not believe the Sunday Manta when I read it, 465 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: and I mean, you can all see it's public record. 466 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: My first response was because they said there's no blackmail, 467 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, I fundamentally do not believe that there was 468 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:07,719 Speaker 1: no blackmail going on. 469 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: I do not believe we agree that. I think that 470 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: he blackmailed people. 471 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 1: Like by the way, there's a difference between we don't 472 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: have the evidence to prove something, which I think this 473 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: is so important. I think that they walked into a 474 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: mess here. I think there might have been evidence in 475 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: the past. You just heard Nicole Parker talking about this 476 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: the first prosecution. You and I were talking about this 477 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: off air. You know, a guy is sleeping with underage kids, right, 478 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: and you give him thirteen months home confinement the first 479 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the first punishment, which was twenty eighteen 480 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: or whatever the heck it was. 481 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: How does that happen? You got people you know this, But. 482 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: Like when I practice criminal law, I knew a guy 483 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: in the US Virgin Islands who slept with a girl 484 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: that pretended she was eighteen and she was like seventeen 485 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: or something. He was twenty two. He went to prison. 486 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: She lies, She had a fake ID. Everybody's like, what 487 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: Bartender meets her like they sleep together. She lied about 488 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: who she was. 489 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 2: She lied. He went to prison. 490 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: One one interaction, and you're telling me, this guy in 491 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: Florida is sleeping with lots of girls under the age 492 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: of eighteen, under the age of consent. So some of 493 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: them are some of them were hold on, some of 494 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: them were also, like because I saw the documentary about 495 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: this and like. 496 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 2: Thirteen or fourteen as well. 497 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: I mean, really, age of consent is eighteen in Florida, 498 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: so well under the age of consent. And he got 499 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: home confinement. That is a record scratch moment. Now, that 500 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: happened all the way back in eighteen, right, and it 501 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: was not am I correcting that it was two thousand. 502 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: Maybe it was even earlier than that. I want to 503 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: make sure I get the year right of the initial prosecution. 504 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: Then he was re arrested after he had already served 505 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: the home confinement penalty. Well, he was arrested because the 506 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: Miami Herald actually did an investigation and it became more 507 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: public what was going on. And then I think they 508 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: looked into it and realized, not only did he get 509 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: off with a shockingly light approach the first time, he 510 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: kept doing this stuff. Yeah, that's right, doing it my 511 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: apology question. There was a massive failure of justice of 512 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: the DOJ system here. By the way, I want to 513 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: correct the year. So the second arrest, he was arrested 514 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: a second time, and I know Nicole ran through this, 515 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: but in twenty nineteen, in two thousand and five, they 516 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: started the investigation. So, I mean, who was president in 517 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: two thousand and freaking five, George W. 518 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: Bush? 519 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: Right, I mean we're talking about something twenty years ago 520 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: that was initially investigated. He pled guilty, sorry, I said, 521 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, two thousand and eight to Florida State Court 522 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: and just got thirteen months as a basically home confinement 523 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: work release that was going on. 524 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: I mean, that's nothing. And then he got re arrested 525 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: in the middle of the me too. 526 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: After people went back and looked and said, what in 527 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: the world, how did this guy get such favorable treatment. 528 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: So again, the first investigation, the one that happened twenty 529 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: years ago, how does that happen? How does a guy 530 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: dead to rights get off on that level of lenient treatment. 531 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: That's a question that I think goes to the essence now. 532 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: But the problem I think buck is by the time 533 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: these guys get into office, Bondi, Bongino Cash, I don't 534 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: think there's very much there. I think they're telling the 535 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: truth because if this were this is not an argument 536 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: over hey, one person wants to arrest eight people and 537 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: the other person is saying no. It's just an argument 538 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: about the communication. That has made this a bigger mushroom 539 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: cloud than it would have been if they had come 540 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: out and just said what I said to you, Hey, 541 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: we don't think there's much here, and I'm sorry and 542 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, and they screwed this up 543 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: and we just walked into the this mess. I think 544 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: people would have been more likely to accept it. Then Wow, 545 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: here you go. This is cut thirty five. The CNN 546 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: data analyst. You know, maybe the left is going to 547 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: realize this is actually a big deal on the right 548 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: and they're going to start trying to create more divisions here. 549 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: That's something to be aware of. 550 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: But CNN's data guy looking at what this has done 551 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: to Google. 552 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: Searches this week. This is cut thirty five play it. 553 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 4: What a massive unforced error by the Trump administration. Donald 554 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 4: Trump would love this story to go away, but in 555 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 4: fact interest is climbing hire and hire to quote Jackie Wilson, 556 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 4: look at this. Google searches for Epstein up twelve hundred 557 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: percent this week versus last and get this. It is 558 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 4: currently the top the top topic search with Trump on Google, 559 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 4: alongside his presidency. So Donald Trump normally, you know, leans in, 560 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 4: leans in the stories in which there's controversy, like Taris 561 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 4: for example. This is a story in which he's trying 562 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: to get away from basically saying why is anyone. 563 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: Still interested in this story? 564 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 4: But the bottom line is people are very interested in 565 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 4: this story to historic degrees. 566 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: I mean, there you go. That's that's the idea. 567 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: People are interested in it to historic degrees. And again, 568 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: I think to your point, they're not going to get 569 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: people mad at Trump because he is uh out there 570 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: and he is arresting people. You know, they're trying to say, oh, 571 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: Ice is too powerful. We voted for this. I think 572 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people said I voted for Jeffrey x 573 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: Epstein's victims to be prosecuted. And so this mess I 574 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: think is actually more destructive inside of the Trump his 575 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: co conspirator, his co conspirators to be prosecuted to get 576 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: justice for the victims. Yes, but inside of the Trump 577 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: voting base, this is actually a mess for Trump. 578 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: Ice raids and uh and and. 579 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: Tax cuts and things like that, by and large, are 580 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: not If I had told you two months ago that 581 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: the trumpetman iss B two bomber strikes on Iranian nuclear 582 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: facilities would be a two day story and the DOJ's 583 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: handling Epstein files would be a five alarm fire at 584 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: least online in the news cycle for an entire week. 585 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 2: We just said that's not possible. I agree. Here we 586 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 2: are here. I wouldn't believed it. 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On the 616 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: Team forty seven podcast, play in Book Highlight Trump Free 617 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: plays from. 618 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 2: The week Sundays at noon Eastern find it on the 619 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app or wherever you do you get your podcasts. 620 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 7: Just trying to tell everybody about what's going on in 621 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 7: the news today. It's been quite a day, and we 622 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 7: wanted to give you a little bit of Theclaire, You're 623 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 7: gonna do a little sunshine time. 624 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: Got good news. 625 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: I have good news in what has been a messy 626 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: week and certainly what has been a messy day, breaking 627 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: US governments have shocked expectations by delivering, according to end Wokeness, 628 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: a budget surplus in June of twenty twenty five, the 629 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: first time the government has not borrowed money in a 630 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: month in twenty years. 631 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 2: So there is something I hope. 632 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: I hope this is not like changed later and they're like, actually, sorry, 633 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: we missed two. 634 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: Hundred and forty billion. You know, the counting gets off. 635 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: But the report out there right now is that in 636 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: June of twenty twenty five, we showed and I'm sharing 637 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: this right now, I just retweeted it a budget surplus 638 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: of twenty six billion dollars, which is the first budget 639 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: surplus that the United States government has reported in twenty years. 640 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: According to end wokeness. Good Twitter follow out there, so. 641 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: I like this. 642 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: I like this from from Jeff by the way, hh 643 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: from South Carolina. Listen on radio play it. 644 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 6: The only way that they can make this go away 645 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 6: now is Trump needs to get all the papers, everything 646 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 6: they got, and he needs to go in front of 647 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 6: American people tonight at nine o'clock say here it is. 648 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 6: It's all on this website. 649 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 2: Boom. 650 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 6: That's the only way it's gonna That's the only way 651 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 6: we're gonna believe him. 652 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: We'll believe Trump if he shows us everything. 653 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 6: Thanks. 654 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: I think I think Trump addressing everybody on this Clay 655 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: may maybe the only way that this really gets put 656 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: in the rear view and people feel like it has 657 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,279 Speaker 1: been handled. You're right, I think that's where this is. 658 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: So now, the challenge on this is eat. I'm just 659 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: telling you, even if Trump says we have released everything, 660 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: it's all out there at the files, which I told 661 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: everybody was going to have a lot of nothing burgers 662 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: in it, and it did, so there's that. I think 663 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: the thing to keep in mind is, as I started 664 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: off the show with positivity, Hey, think about where we 665 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: could be one year ago Trump nearly killed on live television, 666 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: and think about how much progress we made I just said, 667 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: we got a budget surplus for the first time in 668 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: twenty years. Things are looking up. Stock market record highs. 669 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: Let's see how this thing goes. But undisputed mess relating 670 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: to the Epstein files this week. 671 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 2: Have a great weekend, everybody. Hugs for all of you. 672 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 2: Talk to you soon.