1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with the latest on the trade wars 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 3: and President Trump's latest effort to uphold his global teriff regime. 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: The President is taking his case to the Supreme Court 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 3: after a federal appeals court found he improperly imposed country 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 3: by country duties under a nineteen seventy seven economic emergency law. 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 3: The administration's asking the High Court to take up its 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 3: case by September tenth. That's this coming Wednesday. It puts 11 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: it on a highly expedited schedule with arguments. In early November, 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 3: the President addressed the case in Oval Office, comments her 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 3: live on Bloomberg Radio. 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 4: I think we're going to have a big victory. These 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 4: deals are all done. I guess would have to unwind them. 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: The money coming in is incredible. If we didn't have them, 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 4: they would use him on us and we would have 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: no way to fight. 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: And that was President Trump speaking from the Oval Office. 20 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 3: Bloomberg Economic says a defeat for the President would cut 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 3: the average US effective teriff rate at least in half 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 3: and could force the US to refund billions of dollars 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 3: in import taxes. 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: Well, here's a defeat for the Trump administration in court. 25 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: It lost to Harvard University. A federal court has ruled 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 2: the US illegally froze more than two billion dollars in 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: the Ivy League institution's research funds. The court found the 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: move violated the school's free speech rights and did not 29 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: follow proper procedures. Mister Lena at Golf of Pulu is 30 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 2: head of Bloomberg's US legal news team. 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 5: There wasn't an explicit explanation about whether the administration needs 32 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 5: to release this funding immediately or whether the school is 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 5: going to be able to get it, But the judge 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 5: clearly laid out in this opinion, which was about eighty 35 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 5: pages long, the way the administration went about freezing this 36 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 5: fund these funds was illegal. 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: And Bloomberg's mister Lana A. Golf of Pulu as the 38 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: ruling stated that the administration used anti semism as a 39 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: smoke screen for a targeted, ideological, motivated assault on Harvard 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: and other universities. The Trump administration plans to appeal. 41 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: Meantime, carrying. The White House is also engaged in another 42 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 3: fight in Massachusetts, this one over wind farms. A court 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 3: filing shows the US is working to withdraw permits for 44 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 3: the New England Wind one and two projects off the 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: coast of Nantucket. It's part of a broader crackdown that 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: has disrupted at least four East Coast wind projects this year. 47 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 3: Massachusetts Governor Mara Heely says the federal government should be 48 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: working with states to build more power. 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 6: As governor, I am very focused on loring costs for 50 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 6: residents for businesses, that includes energy costs. One thing we 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 6: don't need is energy supply to our region cut off. 52 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 6: And unfortunately, that's what we're seeing by the Trump administration's 53 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 6: move to kill jobs and to literally take away power 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 6: by dismantling wind operations on the East Coast. 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: Massachusetts Governor Maria Healey spoke with Bloomberg News in an 56 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: interview from Our Boston. You can catch your full comments 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: on the Bloomberg podcast channel on YouTube. 58 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 2: Well in New York, Nathan Mayor Eric Adams is denying 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: that he received an offer from the Trump administration to 60 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: work at the Department of Housing and Urban Development. If 61 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: all is a report from Politico that the mayor was 62 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: offered a job at HUD as incentive to drop out 63 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 2: of the race in an effort to consolidate around one 64 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: candidate to take on front runners around Mam Donnie. A 65 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: White House official neither confirm nor denied the report, and 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 2: Mom Donnie is addressing it. 67 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 4: The same president who will throw millions of New Yorkers 68 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 4: off their health insurance is now seeking to undermine the 69 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: very fabric of this city. 70 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: And New York City mayoral candidates around Mam Donnie currently 71 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: leads to Democrat Andrew Cuomo and Republican Curtis Sleewah for 72 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: transparency Michael Bloomberg, who has endorsed Cuomo as founder and 73 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg Radio. 74 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 7: Training. 75 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 3: The markets now Karen stocks and bonds have been rising 76 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: in the pre market. Traders are anticipating a week jobs 77 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: report tomorrow that could raise the prospect of a quarter 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: percentage point rate cut at this month's FED meeting. FED 79 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 3: Governor Christopher Waller tells CNBC the Central Bank should lawer 80 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: rates this month and more months from there. 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 8: For me, I think we need to start cutting rates 82 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 8: at the next meeting, and then we don't have to 83 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 8: go in a lock sequence of steps. We can kind 84 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 8: of see where things are going. Because people are still 85 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 8: worried about tariff inflation. I'm not what everybody else is. 86 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 3: FED Governor Chris Waller is a contender to succeed j 87 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: Powell as FED chair, and in a sign of labor 88 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 3: market weakening, US job openings fell to their lowest level 89 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 3: in ten months in July, and US economic activity saw 90 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 3: little to no change across most of the country in 91 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: recent weeks. That's according to the latest FED Beage Book 92 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: survey of regional business contacts. 93 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: Well, let's stick with the FED here, Nathan. The Senate 94 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: Banking Committee is holding a confirmation hearing today on Stephen 95 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: Myron's appointment to be a governor of the Federal Reserve. 96 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 2: Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren tells Bloomberg's Balance of Power that 97 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: she believes the Senate Banking Committee should be having the hearing, 98 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: but says there should be an oversight committee investigating the 99 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: president's attacks on the Federal Reserve. 100 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 9: It should not be a business as usual, Let's grease 101 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 9: the skids and run through Donald Trump's nominee for the FED. Instead, 102 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 9: we should be having an oversight hearing about Donald Trump's 103 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 9: unprecedented attacks on the independence of the FED. 104 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren spoke with Bloomberg Balance of Power. 105 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: Hear her full comments on the Bloomberg podcast channel on YouTube. 106 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 3: What's happening in geopolitics this morning, Karen. Ukrainian President Vladimir 107 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: Zelenski is meeting with several European leaders in Paris today. 108 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: He is expected to continue talks on security guarantees. This 109 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: comes with concern that Russia is going to mount a 110 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: new offensive on Ukraine. With peace stocks stalled. Russian President 111 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 3: Vladimir Putin says he'd be willing to meet with Zelenski 112 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: under the right circumstances. 113 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 10: Donald asked me if it is possible to hold such 114 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 10: a meeting. 115 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: I said yes, it is possible. 116 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 11: If Zelenski is ready, he should come to Moscow and 117 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 11: the meeting will take place. 118 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 3: Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke in Beijing there through an interpreter. 119 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: President Trump says the US could increase its troop presence 120 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 3: in Poland, neighboring Ukraine. He's indicating that more financial penalties 121 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: could target Moscow as well. 122 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: Well. Let's turn to Ai now, Nathan and Shiny's platform, 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: deep Seek is targeting an AI agent release by the 124 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: end of the year. It's looking to develop a model 125 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 2: with more advanced features to compete with US rivals like 126 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: Open Ai. The AI model is designed to carry out 127 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: multiple or multi step actions on a person's behalf with 128 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 2: minimal direction from the user, and to learn and improve 129 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 2: based on its prior actions and Karen. 130 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: Apple is gearing up to launch its own AI powered 131 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 3: web search engine next year, directly challenging Chat, GPT and Perplexity. 132 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Mark German reports Apple's gearing up to launch it 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: next year. 134 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 11: They haven't announced this yet. There's going to be an 135 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 11: AI based web search product within Siri, competing with Chad 136 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 11: GPT in Perplexity. If you're like me, I don't go 137 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 11: to Google Search anymore, open Chatgypt to search it now 138 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 11: for the first time Siri, we'll be able to get 139 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 11: you detailed results from the web using its own technology. 140 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Mark German says Apple's aiming to turn its voice 141 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: ASSISTANCERI into a robust answer engine with large language models. 142 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: Apple shares in the pre market little changed, and it's time. 143 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: Now for a look at some of their stories making 144 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: news in New York and around the world, and when 145 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 2: I were joined by Bloombergy's Michael Barr Michael, good Morning. 146 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 7: Good Morning Karen. Survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's abuse gathered on 147 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 7: Capitol Hill to demand the release of the sex trafficking 148 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 7: investigation into the late financier Wednesday. They push back against 149 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 7: President Donald Trump's dismissal of the issue as a hoax. 150 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 7: During a news conference that women shared their experiences and 151 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 7: called for trans transparency, and accountability. Liz Stein is one 152 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 7: of those victims. 153 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 12: I loved people, and people genuinely enjoyed being around me, 154 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 12: but after meeting Jeffrey Epstein and Gallaine Maxwell, it felt 155 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,679 Speaker 12: like someone shut off the lights to my soul. 156 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 7: At the White House, President Trump downplays the importance of 157 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 7: releasing the full files. 158 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 4: I think it's enough, because I think we should talk 159 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: about the greatness of our country and the success that 160 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: we're having. I think we're probably having, according to what 161 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: I read even from two people in this room, we're 162 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: having the most successful eight months of any president ever. 163 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: And that's what I want to talk about. That's what 164 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: we should be talking about, not the Epstein hoax. 165 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 7: Lawmakers are divided on how to proceed, with some Republican 166 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 7: supporting a bill to force the Department of Justice to 167 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,199 Speaker 7: release all of the records. The Republican controlled House Oversight 168 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 7: Committee has released some documents. Portuguese emergency services say an 169 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 7: electric street car that is one of Lisbon's big tourist 170 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 7: attractions has derailed, killing fifteen people and injuring eighteen others. 171 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 7: The yellow and white streetcar, which goes up and down 172 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 7: a steep downtown hill, was lying on its side on 173 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 7: the narrow road after Wednesday's accident. Eye witnesses said the 174 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 7: streetcar carene down the hill, apparently out of control. In 175 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 7: the West, dozens of large wildfires are burning in at 176 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 7: least ten states. Near Raymond, California. Battalion Chief Mike Hauk 177 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 7: of cal Fire says two fires just miles apart forced 178 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 7: evacuations in parts of Mariposa and Madeira County. 179 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 12: Everybody is out there. 180 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 5: They are tireless nights that we are working, and they 181 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 5: still give the same effort every fire. 182 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 7: Outside New York City, hundreds of firefighters are trying to 183 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 7: contain the Buckbear wildfire in a rural, heavily wooded area 184 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 7: in Passaic County in northern New Jersey under investigation, global 185 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 7: news twenty four hours a day and whenever you want 186 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 7: it with the Bloomberg News. Now now Michael barrn this 187 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 7: is Bloomberg. 188 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: Karen, all right, Michael barr thank you, Thanks Michael. Time 189 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: now for our Bloomberg scurce updating for abound you bring 190 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: in John stash Houer. 191 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 13: Thanks Karen. Tonight in Philadelphia, it's the start of the 192 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 13: NFL season, the defended Super Bowl champion Eagles taking on 193 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 13: the Dallas Cowboys. At the US Open, Janick Sinner moved 194 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 13: into the men's semifinals. Naomi Osaka did for the women, 195 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 13: and so did Amanda Anisimova. She upset Igaschiontech, the same 196 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 13: player that Amisova lost to in the Wimbledon final six love, 197 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 13: six love. The Yankees blew a big lead. They lost 198 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 13: in Houston, eight to seven. That's your Bloomberg Sports Update. 199 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: Stay with us. More from Bloomberg Day Break coming up 200 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 2: after this. 201 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 202 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 203 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business album. This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 204 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hagar, And as promised, President Donald 205 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: Trump is taking his tariffs to the Supreme Court. That's 206 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 3: after an appeals court found he imposed his duties illegally 207 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 3: under an emergency law. The President says, the stakes in 208 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: this case could not be higher. 209 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 4: Our country has a chance to be unbelievably rich again, 210 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: but it can also be unbelievably poor again. If we 211 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: don't win that case, our country is going to suffer 212 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 4: so greatly. 213 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: And that was the President speaking in Oval office, comments 214 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 3: heard live on Bloomberg Radio. And this morning, we are 215 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: joined by Bloomberg's Global Trade Bizar Brendan Murray. Brendan, good morning. 216 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the stakes in this case. What could 217 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: be on the line for the president if the Supreme 218 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: Court does take this up. 219 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 13: Good morning. 220 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, the President is making this case that the economy 221 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 10: will suffer greatly if he's not allowed to impose import 222 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 10: taxes on American companies. But it's a bit of an exaggeration. 223 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 10: He actually has a lot of other tools that he 224 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 10: could use that have already survived challenges. He's already used 225 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 10: these kinds of tariffs on steel, aluminum, and autos. So 226 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 10: what the President is asking for here is the broad 227 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 10: authority to impose tariffs uh uh on on various countries 228 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 10: and raise those or lower lower those as he see fits. 229 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 10: And that is what the court uh that now the 230 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 10: Supreme Court is going to be asked to to to 231 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 10: rule on if the president's already lost in a couple 232 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 10: of lower courts, so that he's asking the justices to 233 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 10: to overturn what's already been decided in in federal court 234 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 10: and then and and an appeals court decision in late August. So, 235 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 10: but the with the framing of his argument, at least 236 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 10: publicly will We'll have to wait and see what they 237 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 10: say in court. But is that you know, they're collecting 238 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 10: a lot of revenue at the moment, and they are 239 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 10: renegotiating lots of trade ray agreements with various countries, and 240 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 10: all of that hinges on his ability to use these 241 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 10: uh so called reciprocal tariffs that he initially announced on 242 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 10: April second. 243 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it gets down to the fundamental question, doesn't it, 244 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: as to whether Congress has essentially delegated that authority, the 245 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: power of the purse to the president under this law. 246 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly, Congress has delegated a couple a couple of 247 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 10: different statutes to the executive branch, and this is one 248 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 10: of them, and it's never been used as broadly as 249 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 10: President Trump is using these for tariff they're often this 250 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 10: particular statute is used more frequently for sanctions. So the 251 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 10: President and his advisors are really betting a lot on 252 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 10: his ability and the Supreme Court's willingness to go along 253 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 10: with how his interpretation of this particular law. 254 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 3: So in our last minute, Brandon, while we wait to 255 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: see whether the Supreme Court takes this up and whether 256 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: arguments are going to begin, what does this mean for 257 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 3: the trade regime? What does this mean for countries? Are 258 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 3: they sort of in limbo waiting for this to get 259 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: to sided. 260 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 10: Well, first of all, companies are continuing to pay the tariffs. 261 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 10: They're still in effect according to the way the Appeals 262 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 10: Court laid down its ruling, and so the levees are 263 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 10: still in effect for companies that have to pay them 264 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 10: to import goods from overseas. For the countries that are negotiating, 265 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 10: the read by some of the analysts that we're talking 266 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 10: to is, you know, they're in no hurry now to 267 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 10: speed up those talks. They're going to wait and see 268 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 10: how this case plays out. It could be November before 269 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 10: the Supreme Court has any sort of hearings, and then, 270 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 10: you know, maybe we get a judgment at the end 271 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 10: of the year or in the first quarter of twenty 272 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 10: twenty six. But it's not going to be resolved in 273 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 10: the next couple of weeks. 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