WEBVTT - Trey Wingo 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:12.959 Steve Smith Senior, and and this is cut to it. 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:17.320 Good do good? Do what they're getting down to? Do it? 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:21.360 Good do it. We asked the questions you always want 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.720 to know, but no one ever asked, let's cut to it. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:30.400 You ain't heard them about it, then we're about to 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:41.000 let you know. It's all. Being a football player, I 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:43.320 my task is as a while receiver. I look at 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.600 the I look at the linebacker, look at the safety. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:49.680 Then I look at the corner. Already know what potentially 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:52.639 what defenses they will play. They saw us your alignment, 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:54.600 the route I have, and how I should do it. 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:58.840 I am able to look at that, fix the problem 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:03.400 and then run my route. I look at life like that, 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:09.399 and it's so hard to do well. The strive for 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:13.000 excellence that you put on yourself. Let me tell you 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:16.520 something that you are undermining, you are undercutting, that you're 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:18.399 using the wrong words. Do you want to know what 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:25.200 I realized? I am. I am obsessed with perfection. I 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:33.160 am obsessed with completing goals and getting tested up. It 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:34.920 urged me because now I sit back and I go, 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.880 I gotta slow down, I gotta stop. I gotta enjoy 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:40.520 as we mentor each other that we do because of 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:44.400 our friendship outside. We've had these discussions and we're getting 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.920 better in perfection may not be able to be achieved, 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.640 but one percent better every day. That's what you want 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.840 to because I've been I was taught if you're not 0:01:55.920 --> 0:02:00.160 getting better, you're getting worse, getting worse. Do you know 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.600 how tough that is? Can you imagine going into work 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:08.640 in football that is the common thing. You are getting 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.679 better each year or you're getting worse. Here's a you 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:14.800 want to hear a funny story of how I took 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:20.160 that to the intgree of but wholeness, but but holes 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:24.480 because I got it right. So each year when coach 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.560 Fox was the head coach, we used to do these 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.799 things in the off season and you have to come 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.960 in and work out and they didn't have a test. 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.960 You have to run a forty, you have the bench press, 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.440 you have the vertical jump, you have to do all 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.520 that stuff. And eventually, because guys started getting hurt pulling hamstrings, 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.040 so they just really did it to the weight room. 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.400 I was into muscle and Derance I was not into 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.320 lifting a whole bunch of weight, so we would have 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:50.080 to bench. You have to test. So so the first 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:54.519 year I did it, I begrudgingly did it begrudgingly. I 0:02:54.600 --> 0:03:00.440 begrudgingly did five one, two, three, four, five. Then my 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:03.480 vertical whatever it is, did my run run. Okay, I'm 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:08.520 out next year. So you gotta remember, you're either getting better, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.160 are you getting worse? Are you getting worse? And if 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.519 you're getting worse, they will what replace you? They would 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:23.920 draft your replacement. So, being a unique individual, I am 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:31.560 I get under the bench for us again. Boom one, two, three, 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.760 or I'm gonna get you all up? Push it four, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:40.000 got it? Five, boom, got up to five, about to 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.600 hit six, stopped halfway and said, hey, how many high 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:49.120 last year that's got? Looks at paper? He goes five, six, boom, 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.400 getting better, bit and I got off. I went straight 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:57.280 to the shower, got drafted, and I left. I got better. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:04:01.600 You cannot draft anybody to replace me because technically, yeah, 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:06.720 I got showed improvement. Do you understand? I did that 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:11.040 for like two more years. Every year the next year 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:15.760 I did, and they finally said, don't even do it, 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:24.839 bro is it you're good. That is how obsessed I 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:29.760 am with perfection. Were I know you are saying you 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:32.719 either getting better work? So how do I show you 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:35.880 and show you my unique way? Oh I'm getting better 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:38.800 not by your evaluation, because I already know your evaluation 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.480 is gonna be skewed. So if it's all about numbers 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.360 and it's all about seeing paper wise, when they put 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:48.919 you on the chart and they go did you get better? 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.360 So you said better? You don't say how much better? 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.000 You just said better. So it's funny. You know my 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:58.120 kids play, you know, played play station. I don't really 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:04.279 play video games as much I used to, but my 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:10.120 my name on my PlayStation. Guess what it is? Policy bender? 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.440 Is that not a pretty accurate its super accurate statement. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.599 It's super accurate. What does this all go to? Man? 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:21.880 It just all goes to. That's why I love this 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.320 is my sanctuary. That's what I love about this podcast. 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:30.640 And if you really verbalize what we all grow through 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:34.880 in life, you gotta think about it. Man. It is hilarious, 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:41.120 it's traumatic, it's funny, and it's also sometimes we just 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:46.400 overcomplicate some of the simplest things. I gotta you're telling 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.400 me we're a National Football League, and we're gonna tell 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:54.080 you you're gonna evaluate a test to safetiest players getting better. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.240 But you watch all these films and you know if 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.640 this young man could cover, run, jump, or past, you 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.160 don't need a test to though, Hey man, he got burnt. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:04.880 As an analysts, if I look up and I say 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.560 how many times is this player targeted as a corner? 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.760 If I look at my prope Football Focus account and 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:13.599 I look at and I find a research and grab 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:18.320 my researcher, and they say, when this guy's targeted, the 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:22.040 receiver is catching the ball six times. I don't need 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.480 a test to tell me this brother needs to be replaced. 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.080 Because if you're telling me right now for six six 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.159 percent chance, if I buy a lot of tickets, I'm 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.000 wanting a lot of Do you need a test to 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.600 do that? No? You go, hell, I like my eyes 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.240 because when you look at the test, you you look 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.840 at the eyes of Normally they say one out of 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.839 how many thousands of people? Well, you know, you know what, 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.039 we don't know though he might have been getting caught 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:51.440 on sixty eight percent at the time the year before. 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:59.360 So you got better. M h right, Yeah, that's pretty good, 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:03.400 depends on what probably a different team though, why coach 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.800 probably won't get fired. Are we talking about the Detroit lines? Oh, 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:11.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry that all I've been here to. Hey, 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.960 who we got coming from the Cut to It Podcast. 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.120 We've got Trey Wingo, a sports media veteran who formerly 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:20.560 hosted Sports Center and NFL Live. He's now the chief 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.040 NFL analysts for Pro Football Network and the chief trends 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.480 officer for Caesar Sports Book. Tray Wingo on the Cut 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:32.240 to It Podcast. Our first segment is called get iced Up. 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.800 We have no idea what's coming, and you don't either, 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.760 So SMITTHI ahead, get prified? All right? If you moved 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:42.960 on to the block of Stesimy Street, Uh, who would 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:47.120 you want to be your neighbor? And why old school 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:50.239 Sesame Street not the new school old We were talking 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:54.560 to Oscar the ground Big Bird concla have they changed? 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.240 My kids don't really watch Sesame Street like that, so 0:07:56.520 --> 0:08:00.400 they've changed a little change new people. Yeah, they say 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:05.920 street gentrified. I'm gonna I'm gonna go Elmo. I think 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.240 why Elmo? I don't know. He just seems like he'd 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.840 be an easy neighbor. You know, I think in that situation, 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:17.400 definitely not Oscar the Grouch, because he'd he'd just be annoying. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.040 I think Elmo would be the easiest one to get 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.200 along with it, just like he wouldn't bother you. You 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:26.800 know what I mean. I'm going with Count Dracula. Oh 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:32.800 that's a good one. Yeah, although all the time, yeah yeah, 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.280 but that would get annoying. But you always gotta have 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:38.400 a brother that can count. Though he knows his numbers, 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:47.720 it's true. One. I don't know. I just always always 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.200 loved him. I couldn't. I couldn't hang with big Bird. 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:56.240 You just he just wrong day, wrong time, wrong hour. 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.880 And nothing's worse than scaring you than a big old 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:04.080 yellow bird talking about it up. Yeah, well you you 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.920 always well I can see why that would be a 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:07.480 problem for you because you were always one of the 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:09.400 smaller guys on the field, right, So you don't want 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.000 to do with that in your real life. No, that 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:12.560 had nothing to do with it. Just had to do 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:14.640 it a big old yellow bird just popping up on you. 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.520 I don't do scary movies, man, You ever watched a 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.800 scary movie like back in the day and then had 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.560 to go to the bathroom or something like later that 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:29.960 night and you hit every light. Do you remember that 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.800 movie The Blair Witch Project that came out I watched. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:35.360 I watched that movie, and I also had to end. 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:39.000 I didn't see that when I saw the rigging that 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.320 would miss me up. Well, well here's the thing about 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.640 the Blair with that freaked me out. Okay, And then 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.560 I went home to my house, which was backing up 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.040 to the woods. I was the only one in the house, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.160 and I'm like, I'm legit terrified to walk into my 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.199 house right and think about it, and if big Bird 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:58.200 came out, what would your response? See, No, that's a 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.640 hard pass for me. Hard, thank you? Hard Like ain't 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.719 like big bird is armed anything like were you scared him? 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:09.840 You know, you don't have time to process. I gotta 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.680 I got a big yellow thing around me when I'm terrified. 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:16.520 That's no, I don't need that. Life is hard enough, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:21.560 all right. What's your favorite time of the year. I 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:25.199 love fall because well a football b I grew up 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.200 in Connecticut. Okay, so my favorite time of the year 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.760 was when it's like it's sunny and the and the 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.880 sun hits your face. But the air is a little chili, 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:37.040 and like you breathe in and that it gives you 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:39.000 a little bite in the lungs, that low sort of 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.559 combination of Okay, still warm outside, I can feel the 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.160 sun on my face. But that little nip in the 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.520 air and the leaves start to fall. That that's my 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.480 favorite time of the year. I've never heard of a 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.600 biting a long And I'm not sure that I want 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.560 to in that conversation. Little chili, just a little chili 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:58.440 when I don't know what where you pick that up from. 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:02.240 But I don't I don't want to do. But you 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:04.280 look like you're dressed for fall right now. So yeah, 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:08.280 you know you're looking real skish. I like this skate 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.320 real skish. Yeah, I like it. Um, this actually is 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.920 a golf jacket. Okay, nice. A lot of people know, 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:21.479 yeah I am. If you can instantly become an expert 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:26.320 in something, what would it be, Well, I sure, as 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.640 I like to figure out my driver, I'll tell you 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.840 that much over the place that place, you know, Like 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.160 I talked to some of these these golfers and like, well, 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:36.760 I'm trying to move the ball left or right. So 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.880 I did this and like I'm just trying to hit it, man, 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.959 Like I'm trying to see it go that way. So yeah, 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:44.920 there's nothing worse. Like I play a lot of golf, 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.120 There's nothing worse than when your driver is not working right, 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:51.240 because then you're just like you're scrambling, You're yeah, you're 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:55.520 you're dead right like if you if you know, people 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:57.920 say putting is the most important thing, maybe for for 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.480 prose but for amateur players. I'm try. If you can't 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.160 get off the t the game sucks and it's just like, well, 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:04.960 I gotta pitch it out or I gotta work it 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:06.720 around a tree, or I got to have a bunker. 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:08.960 If you can't hit a fair way off the tea, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.880 you're it's like being down twenty points at the start 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:16.079 of the first corpter. So if you're not good off 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:18.439 the tea, are you one of those golfers where you 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:22.680 find yourself explaining your gain for the next two or 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:27.760 three holes. Here here's yes, that smile said, but usually 0:12:27.800 --> 0:12:32.680 it's not this bad. I don't know what he's Here's 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:39.000 what what happened. What had happened was he told me 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:41.760 that he said, once Trede, you're the best multitasker I've 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:43.959 ever seen. I've seen you like do this while you're 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.240 doing an interview and doing it. You can't do that 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.560 when you play golf. You can't think when you play. 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.720 That's why Dustin Johnson's a reight golfer. He doesn't think. Okay, 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.160 So I think too much out there and I get 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.320 in my own damn way and it drives me crazy. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.640 That's what you're telling yourself. Well, because well what else 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:02.120 made it? Just say I suck at it. That's that's 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.839 always a good one. I'm not great at it. I 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.880 don't want to be that honest yet, Smithie. I enjoy 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:11.240 I enjoy golf, whether I have a good game or 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:17.199 bad game. I love getting on the course, removing myself 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:21.679 from people. Right, just did oh hey this happened. Sorry, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.200 it's good for just nine right now. Even I'll just 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:27.960 do nine just to get back to the day. But 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.840 I enjoy it. What I really love some headphones and 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:37.000 the driving range. Yeah, that that's interesting. You said that, 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.000 because there's two kinds of golfers, right, there's the kind 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.920 of golfers that just show up and play. I could 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:46.680 be that sometimes, right doesn't mean anybody else, But but 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.560 see what you're telling me is you're about the grind, 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.720 because the guys that go to the range and want 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.120 to put on the headphones, they're about the grind and 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.120 they're about figuring that part of it out before you 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.720 even step onto the golf course. You know, I'm not 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:03.040 even gonna go there. You know what, I enjoy the piece. Man, 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:06.959 there's sometimes you I'm I. I believe this weekend I 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.080 maybe get on the course and somebody's new album is 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.959 coming out too, So I'm really excited to go through, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.320 go through a Dale's album and get on the drive. 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:20.080 On the on the driving heard her, heard her performance 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:29.680 last night, was recorded it, I'm going recorded it, so 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:36.920 all right? Last one, okay, favorite ice cream? Wow. Um. 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:40.200 When I was a kid, there was a basket Robin's 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.480 flavor called Golden Vanilla, which I thought was the greatest. 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:47.880 It's just like extra vanilla. It was like extra vanilla vanilla. Um. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.160 But I sort of gravitated away from that. I like 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.800 something with a little caramel in it and like something 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:56.520 a little crunchy, whether it's Moose Moose tracks or some 0:14:56.640 --> 0:14:58.880 Oreo cookies. Give me a little, give me a little 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:03.280 vanilla with carm on the inside A little texture. Yeah, 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:06.800 a little texture. I'm about bringing things together. Okay, man, 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:11.200 that's that the unity flavor. What you see the way 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.120 my stomach is set up. I don't I don't do 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:16.600 ice cream, so unfortunately, I just before you found out 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:18.920 that your stomach don't really I mean I probably do, 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.440 like a maybe cookies and cream, but I don't. There 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:26.920 you go solid, Yeah, ice cream, get out the way 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:30.520 you seriously, and this is very You're like the first 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.600 person I've ever met who said he doesn't like ice cream. No, 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.080 I think he likes ice cream. People around him don't, like, 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:40.160 don't want me to have ice cream. I'm lactose. There's 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.080 a thing that would happen, okay, black, he could have 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:47.080 ice cread go well or when I do get it, 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.400 like I gotta get like the super kids like my 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.800 daughter me And she said, like my daughter just but 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.720 even smaller than it, Like I just can't. I don't 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.160 do a lot. Have you done the other kinds? You know, 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:00.920 a coconut? I just don't venture because now my mind 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:02.600 is to where like I just don't really do ice 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.320 cream like this, So I just really don't know. We've 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.520 been in different places, like I'll never I'll never get 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:09.360 never get it, man. I got one is dairy free, 0:16:09.400 --> 0:16:12.720 is coconut, and it's a peanut colada with pineapples in. 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:17.760 It's like peanut colada gruggle. It's not like Sherbert. It's 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:21.800 with coconut milk. So like the others, like the old school, 0:16:21.800 --> 0:16:27.680 like your grandparents eat the Sherbet. Sherbet's awful, Subet, it's awful. 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.240 You never saw your grandparents eat sherbet. Maybe it was 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:37.520 just my slander. All right, mark that off the list. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:40.360 I don't think we're gonna get a Sherbet. What So Man, 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.680 What's what's been going on? How's how's life been? Why? 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.080 It's good, bro Um. You know, we're just keeping busy 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:49.520 during football season doing a lot of stuff. And you know, 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:51.680 this's my like, it's my favorite. Like I said, it's 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:53.600 my favorite time of the year. I I don't know 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.080 what I would do if I didn't watch football. So 0:16:56.920 --> 0:16:59.080 my favorite thing to do is sit my ass in 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:01.120 my couch on Sunday and watch all the games and 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:03.160 chop it up with people. I mean, do you watch 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:06.520 it's every game. I watch as many of them as 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.359 I can. Um. You know, obviously the red Zone is 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:13.240 the greatest in the history of television, the greatest thing ever. 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.160 Like when Tom Brady was suspended for those four games 0:17:16.160 --> 0:17:18.240 in sixteen, that was the first time you watched the 0:17:18.240 --> 0:17:20.639 red zone. He was like, Oh my god, how did 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.200 I How did I live without knowing that this exists? 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.320 You still you haven't? Oh, it's awesome. I mean it 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:30.919 shows all your scoring plays. Yeah, it's it's football on 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:32.919 every drug you can possibly manage it. But that's the 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.480 only way to describe it. Just like rapid fire, bam 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.000 bam bam. If it's great, if if a network, if 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.560 a network took pre work out, that's what red zone is. Yeah, 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.280 exactly right. It's like wa, wa yet a third and six? 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.720 So fare wait we gotta passare wait? They blocked the 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:50.880 kick in Dallas? How did that happen? Anytime you cross 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:53.199 over into the t once you're in literally once you're 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:54.919 in the red zone, it will break to or if 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.000 there's like someone's immediately in the score and play. So 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.240 let's just say you know it's first and go from 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.720 the two and in the seas. But it's I have 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.439 the channel, I've never watched it before. I think I 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.639 think you would like it, well, I think your internet. 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.359 Here's the only problem. I have to know some of 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.679 the small details that other people don't pay attention to. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.760 So I that won't show me a red zone like 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:17.720 it's I was gonna say, just so if you're looking 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:19.600 for that, then you're gonna hate it. But yeah, for 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.680 the for the person who's following their fantasy football team, 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:27.399 like that's what people, I think, just I just learned something. 0:18:28.080 --> 0:18:31.360 There you go. Yeah, I'm trying to help doing doing 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.879 a fantastic job. But way before we go any for 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:36.119 the can I tell you something about the guy you 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:38.679 do the podcast with? What you tell you something about him? 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:40.600 You will tell you. I want to tell your co 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:51.959 workers saying, how do you know g what did Joe? No? No, no, 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:55.800 just just so you know. Like when it was when 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:57.720 I was at the end of my time at ESPN 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:00.720 and there was a lot of off out there, some 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.960 of the true something not true. I got a call 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:05.520 and one of my calls, one of the first calls 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:07.360 I got was from Steve Smith and he said, Hey, 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:10.120 I'm just checking to make sure you're okay. How much 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:11.639 checking to make sure you're good? And I was like, 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:15.960 I appreciate you I was, you've been somewhere for such 0:19:16.000 --> 0:19:18.919 a long time, and Staple, I've gotten to you know, 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:22.919 learn and grow from you as well. And I just, 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:26.120 you know, I knew when I saw that news. I'm 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.480 I didn't want any you know, I did, I said it. 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:30.359 I didn't want any skinny. I didn't want to know 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:34.120 anything that was a part of the business. Just wanted 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:37.200 to make sure that man was okay. I was appreciated. 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.560 How rare is that, Trey for I mean, you've been 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.040 in sports media for a long time, You're you're that 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.040 you're doing. We'll get into a lot of the things 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.119 you're doing right now, but but how rare is that 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:50.240 in this media industry? Um, it meant a lot to 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.000 me because obviously he was a guy that I respected 0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:56.280 and watched and played and we developed a relationship you know, 0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:00.240 over over email and tax and whatever. So oh, you 0:20:00.280 --> 0:20:03.680 know it. To me, it made me feel like what 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.040 I did when he has been all those years, I 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.800 did it the right way. You know, I always I 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.439 was never a guy and this is probably good that 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.359 I'm not there. I'm not a hot take guy, like 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.880 I'm gonna say something crazy just to see how many 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.720 clicks I can get, you know, And that's not how 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:21.639 I did it. That's not how I wanted to do it. 0:20:21.680 --> 0:20:23.960 When we were doing the show, you know, we would 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:26.920 it was with herm and Darren Woodson and Mark Slayreth 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:29.520 and Teddy Bruski. We would we would break down film 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:31.479 and we would try to put reason to things, you know, 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.640 and so the why why is this happening? Like I'll 0:20:35.640 --> 0:20:38.040 tell you one of my favorite episodes of NFL Live 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.159 Monday night game the Chiefs welcome to the Patriots and 0:20:43.200 --> 0:20:45.479 they kicked their ass. I think it was like fourteen. 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:47.560 It was one of the worst beatings in the Bill 0:20:47.600 --> 0:20:51.600 Belichick Brady era. And after that game, everyone was saying, 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:54.520 that's it, that's the end of Brady. He looks terrible. 0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:56.840 I had a buddy of mine that I trusted, said, 0:20:56.840 --> 0:20:58.920 Helf he looked like Joe Namath for the Rams. That's 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.800 how bad Brady look Okay, so every show was just 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:04.800 saying this is the end of the dynasty. We went 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.600 on NFL Live that day and I said, let's pump 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:11.399 the brakes. Okay, I'm not gonna judge a Belichick Brady 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.440 team in September. I'm gonna judge him in December January, 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:15.919 you know, by the way, they went on to win 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:17.280 the Super Bowl that year and went on to win 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:19.000 a few more and make a few more appearances. So 0:21:19.320 --> 0:21:22.400 that was always my the way I approached it. Let's 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.119 not just throw gasoline on a fire. Let's look at 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.560 what happened. Is it fixable? And I always try and 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:30.880 play the long game, Always try and play the long 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.960 game here. Like when people were going crazy after three 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:37.800 bad games from Patrick Mahomes this season, I'm like, Okay, 0:21:37.960 --> 0:21:40.960 let's just let's just pump the brakes. You know, we've 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.680 seen what he's done for three years, and the first 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:45.640 six games of this year where they were scoring more 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.400 points per game, more yards per game, at a better 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:49.720 third down conversion rate and a better red zone touchdown 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:51.679 conversion rate than either the past two years, and we 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:54.399 went to two straight Super Bowls. So I don't think 0:21:54.600 --> 0:22:00.919 the offense is broken. Everybody calm down. I'll love cut 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.560 to It, and I love it even more when you 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.720 download us and subscribe and you can follow us on 0:22:07.760 --> 0:22:10.960 social media too. Smithie, where where at that's at? Cut 0:22:11.000 --> 0:22:16.119 to It on Instagram? What about Twitter? At? Cut to It? 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