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Speaker 2: first we got to go with basketball. The last two

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Speaker 2: games were very interesting to the very end. The first

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Speaker 2: one O Joe, y'all in trouble. Y'all in trouble. But

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Speaker 2: let's start with the Warriors with a one to four

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Speaker 2: to ninety three victory. Steph Curry got it going. Hey,

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Speaker 2: when he's off the court, they're not the same team.

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Speaker 2: But he came back and they are very different teams.

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Speaker 2: Thirty six points, seven rebounds, nine assists. They did all

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Speaker 2: of this without Jimmy Butler. They got some timely. I

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Speaker 2: think Buddy Hill has seventeen points GP. The second two

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Speaker 2: he came up the bench May and he was sensational,

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Speaker 2: playing outstanding defense and made some time three and he

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Speaker 2: really closed the game out. Steph Curry is the oldest

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Speaker 2: player in the NBA history to have a playoff game

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Speaker 2: in which he scored thirty points, five rebounds, five assists

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Speaker 2: with five frees. Steph Curry assisted or scored on sixteen

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Speaker 2: of the twenty three points they had in the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: The Warriors did not score a single basket with Steph

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Speaker 2: wasn't on the court in the first half. That just

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Speaker 2: goes to show you just how valuable he is because

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Speaker 2: he opens it up for so many other people because

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Speaker 2: you have to double him because he has unlimited range. Kwan,

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Speaker 2: You're watching this game and it looked like houster like, now,

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Speaker 2: oh damn, Houston might go on the road.

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Speaker 3: It's still the first one on the road, playing very

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Speaker 2: Jalen Green was playing out of his mind, stragoon dv

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Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks playing well.

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Speaker 3: But he got in fil trouble. He goes to the bench.

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Speaker 2: What did you like about what you saw from the

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Speaker 4: Actually, I really to be honest, I like the fact that,

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Speaker 4: you know, Steph obviously played great. You know he's gonna

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Speaker 4: But man, Buddy Hill and Gary Page second man came

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Speaker 4: they become real dangerous. And that's what they need because

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Speaker 4: Draymond Grant and at this point in his career is

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Speaker 3: He's gonna do a lot of changeables.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna rebound, he's gonna defend, he's gonna get some steals.

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Speaker 4: So they gotta get scoring for Steph. You know, when skeeth,

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Speaker 4: And that's what made it great tonight to see those

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Speaker 4: guys step up. You never know what's gonna happen with

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Speaker 4: those stay you know, Steve Kurzman messing with coming of

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Speaker 4: this series too, hasn't really been let them play, So

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Speaker 4: you don't know who's gonna show up.

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Speaker 3: Big, especially with Jimmy out. But a huge game and

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Speaker 4: That's one thing about you know, Steph probably can win

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Speaker 4: two games in the series by himself, and this was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point in his career, Draymond is rich.

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Speaker 2: He's never been a score He doesn't really look to score.

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Speaker 2: He's looking to do a great job of handling the ball,

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Speaker 2: sitting great pigs, rebounding defended as you mentioned, and initiating

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Speaker 3: Gary Payton the second.

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Speaker 2: In the fourth quarter, he had eleven point three rebounds,

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Speaker 2: one of sis he was one hundred percent from the floor,

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent from the three. He played exceptional in

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Speaker 2: the second when he got in there. He and Buddy Hill,

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, twe Oh Joe, what'd you like about

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Speaker 2: what you saw from the Warriors?

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, and I like what I saw from

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Speaker 3: the words. Obviously Steph did what Stephan normally does. But listen,

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Speaker 3: Like Ton said, I thought the Rocker.

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Speaker 5: I thought the Rockers was gonna steal a game, especially

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Speaker 5: with the way they were playing Steph. They had somebody

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Speaker 5: running tracking him everywhere all over the court. You know them,

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Speaker 5: young bull, You know everybody over there.

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Speaker 3: Young. So he tried.

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Speaker 5: They trying to set screen, to set fix, and they

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Speaker 5: on Steph and they contest and everything, make it every

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Speaker 5: shot difficult all the way up into the half. And listen,

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Speaker 5: he just exploded in the second half, hitting a lot

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Speaker 5: of shots. But I think one of the reasons with Jimmy,

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Speaker 5: with Jimmy Butler being out, obviously you need a stef

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Speaker 5: to have a game like this day, and he can

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Speaker 5: go off like this and win win a game by himself.

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Speaker 5: He had thirty six, twelve or twenty three. But the

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Speaker 5: supporting cast, Buddy Hill went crazy with seventeen. Gary Payton Jr.

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Speaker 5: Contributed as well over sixteen, and the Warriors bench outscored

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Speaker 5: the Rockets UH forty two to thirty one. And that

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Speaker 2: Well, it looked like they started early to one. They

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Speaker 2: was blessing him, They was trapping him, getting the ball

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Speaker 2: out of his hands. They want to make him give

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Speaker 2: it up. And and if you notice, lady in steph career,

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Speaker 2: Steph is sometimes I thought early he would force the three.

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Speaker 2: Steph doesn't have a problem putting the ball on the

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Speaker 3: Not to one. That makes him dangerous because the.

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Speaker 2: US before like a nah, Bro, you're not We're not

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Speaker 3: So you know we're gonna hug up on you.

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Speaker 2: Nah, Steph say nah, he has too good, bro, because

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Speaker 2: I can put it on and go behind my back

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Speaker 2: between my legs and I.

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Speaker 3: Can finish with either hand.

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Speaker 2: And he's unafraid to shoot that mid range also, so

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Speaker 2: he's his game when he gets that three ball going,

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Speaker 2: When he shoots the ball and he's turning, he's starting.

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Speaker 3: I got something for y'all y'all. Hey, y'all get that

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Speaker 3: dangerous one. Be dangerous listen. I stick with Houston.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to respect the fact that Steph Curry

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Speaker 4: is who he is, obviously one of the greatest players

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Speaker 4: of all time.

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Speaker 3: You gotta double to take the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 4: You gotta make one of those other guys see if

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Speaker 4: they can get twenty twenty five points tonight.

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Speaker 3: You can't allow step especially the game.

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Speaker 4: Once Jimmy Butler was not playing, I would have double

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't allow Steph to beat me.

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Speaker 4: I will see if I would have seen him, Commander,

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Speaker 4: I would have seen them Buddy Hill, Gary Pagon a second,

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Speaker 4: even though Buddy had to go pay the second. If

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Speaker 4: thought playing t Riffin tonight and let's see if they

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Speaker 4: can do it in an all series law, I'm not

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Speaker 4: gonna just let them beat me. I can't let step

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Speaker 4: beat me if he had no you know, he's gonna

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Speaker 4: have one of those nights where nobody's gonna be able

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Speaker 4: to But you gotta flood out guard him and double

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Speaker 4: team him as much as possible and make somebody else

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Speaker 4: beat you. If Houston wants to win, because Houston don't

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Speaker 4: have enough scoring. I love Houston. I love the fact,

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Speaker 4: I love their mentality, I love the way they play.

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Speaker 4: They play hard, but you know, in this league, you

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Speaker 4: gotta score some points. They just don't have enough fireparty offensively.

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Speaker 4: So if you go if you're not gonna be able

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Speaker 2: I think the thing is one is that they're so

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Speaker 2: to run some sets. And that's what's saying. If you

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Speaker 2: to run set. Step is perpetual motion. He's not gonna stop.

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Speaker 2: So if you think you got him guarded on one side,

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Speaker 2: you better tell the guy, hey, Harry, come over to

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Speaker 2: have to watch him. You have to keep literally keep

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Speaker 2: or they hit that flare to him to the corner

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Speaker 2: and then now he's splashing the three in your eyes

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Speaker 2: and you're like, well, damn, and you can guard good

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Speaker 2: for twenty one, twenty two, twenty three seconds and he'll

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Speaker 2: let the ball go and it's splashed. And it's so

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Speaker 2: demoralizing when you play defense for that long one and

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Speaker 2: you don't have anything to show for it.

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Speaker 3: Couriero, Joe, I'm gonna say that. That's gonna say the

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Speaker 3: same thing.

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Speaker 5: I think the Rockets did a very very good job

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Speaker 5: trying to contain him and do as much as they

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Speaker 5: can to disrupt his rhythm, obviously in the first half,

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Speaker 5: but knowing even though they would, even though they have

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Speaker 5: the younger legs, they were unable to continue to do that. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: Steph going off and at some point he's one of

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Speaker 5: those players on no matter what the game plan is,

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Speaker 5: you just hope to contain them because you're not gonna

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Speaker 3: And that's what young boy did tonight. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The thing is if he see one or two of

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Speaker 2: them go in and you can, you can play the

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Speaker 2: perfect defense, and you saw the I mean he'll start

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Speaker 4: I can't see Steph with thirty seven forty points and

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Speaker 3: Let's respect that, and that's double team.

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Speaker 4: That's respecting the double team and force somebody else to

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Speaker 4: Just double team and get it out of his hands

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Speaker 3: Better at home. They you know, at home.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's kind of like a it's an on

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Speaker 3: They're gonna feed off the crowd.

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Speaker 4: And that's when you seen Buddy Hill and Gary Pagon

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Speaker 2: Not only did you let Steph go get thirty six,

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Speaker 2: you let him have nine assists. So now you allowed

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Speaker 2: Gary paid the second. Now look what Look what happened.

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Speaker 4: Know, you know, not just mean everything to the You

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Speaker 3: You know, That's sometimes I can happen.

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Speaker 2: Because their key players are battle tested in these situations. Houston,

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Speaker 2: isn't you see Steph Curry, Draymond. They've been here, done that.

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Speaker 2: Although Jimmy hasn't won a title, he's taking a team

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Speaker 3: They was on that team.

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Speaker 2: Although they didn't get very much very many minutes, they

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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that these guys understand what it's like.

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Speaker 3: Now it's happened, but you need to be battle.

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Speaker 2: Testing a situation like that, and I don't think Houston

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Speaker 2: who's their go to guy? You see most teams they

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Speaker 2: You got the Clippers. They're gonna put the ball in

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can defend it, say I

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Speaker 3: You need that person.

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Speaker 3: You know a veteran, veteran president. He's on the court.

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Speaker 5: He's used to being one of the guys that normally

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Speaker 4: You just start when you start off with your question,

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Speaker 3: It's not Fred has played well.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, I'm gonna ask swan a Swan based on

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Speaker 3: Oh, without question, he definitely has that grain right there.

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Speaker 4: He probably he's probably the only He's probably one A

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Speaker 2: Jalen Green did not play well. He was four of

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Speaker 2: play better. I don't think Fred van Fleet has played

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I know he's been nicked twe and I know he's

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Speaker 3: I got, I got so much respect for you, Doka.

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Speaker 4: I don't think the series is over, but this is

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Speaker 4: gonna be a d serious I think. I think Houston

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00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,560
Speaker 4: has a chance to make some adjustments. They can see

437
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,639
Speaker 4: what they did wrong and really respond to this. Because

438
00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,879
Speaker 4: you don't know how long Jimmy's out. We haven't got

439
00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,399
Speaker 4: the word how long Jimmy's gonna be out of Jimmy

440
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:04,680
Speaker 4: has to say a couple of games.

441
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:06,800
Speaker 3: This series is still wide open.

442
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 4: Now, if you get Jimmy back, they probably gonna be

443
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,439
Speaker 4: a little out number to be able to beat to

444
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,359
Speaker 4: beat the Golden State Warriors. But if Jimmy's not gonna

445
00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,720
Speaker 4: sit out, which I'm probably sure, Steve Curris probably gonna say,

446
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:23,720
Speaker 4: hey you might yep, I agree yes, and say take

447
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,400
Speaker 4: the next game off. Let's get you to one hundred

448
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,360
Speaker 4: percent and get you back to a one hundred percent.

449
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,520
Speaker 4: So I just think that this young team is their

450
00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,400
Speaker 4: first time going and we got we got so much

451
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Speaker 4: respect for him because they had such a great season

452
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,879
Speaker 4: and they have three seed, but they they're in experiensial

453
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,239
Speaker 4: a little bit.

454
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Speaker 3: You see some of the well.

455
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry to seed, You're right, So we're putting a

456
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Speaker 4: lot of we put a lot of thought that they're

457
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,880
Speaker 4: gonna be really good, but you see the mistakes. You're

458
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 4: seeing them right now throughout the game and throughout the series,

459
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,719
Speaker 4: the mistakes that they're making, and I don't know if

460
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:51,680
Speaker 4: they're gonna be able to recover.

461
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,479
Speaker 3: Steph is too good to get them.

462
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 4: Veteran guys, everybody on Golden State have been in meaningful

463
00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 4: games throughout their career. It's gonna be hard to beat

464
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 4: Golden State. This was the game they needed. Without Jimmy tonight,

465
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 4: you could have put a little pressure on Golden State. Now,

466
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 4: I think yod the State feels good about theirselfs.

467
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,199
Speaker 2: But when you think about it, you thought about all

468
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,919
Speaker 2: the teams that could potentially be the seventh seed, I

469
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,520
Speaker 2: think all of them pretty much would have been favored.

470
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 2: If the Clippers the seventh seed, I think they would

471
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 2: have been favored over Houston. I think they would be

472
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Speaker 2: anybody Minnesota. I think they would have been favored over Houston.

473
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 2: Golden State is favorite over Houston. I think Lakers would

474
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Speaker 2: have been favored. I don't see a scenario because of

475
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,400
Speaker 2: their youth and because of the lack of because every

476
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Speaker 2: team that I mentioned they have a bona fide superstar,

477
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,159
Speaker 2: so have.

478
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Speaker 3: Two the nudgets. We know what you said, the magic word.

479
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,360
Speaker 3: You just said the match Racord.

480
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,640
Speaker 4: You gotta you know this, You gotta have superstars playoff

481
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 4: time during the season, because your legs are fresh and

482
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,720
Speaker 4: you guys know that stort of season everything else.

483
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 3: Young guys gonna have fresh legs. All the guys. It's

484
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 3: gonna take them a while to rep up become playoff time.

485
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 3: They know how to win.

486
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 4: They're not going to preserve its back. It's no back

487
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 4: to back games nobody ever talked about that. I always

488
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 4: tell people, it's no back to back games, so you

489
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,360
Speaker 4: get time to get that body to get rejuvenated, give

490
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 4: him the cold tub, get yourself back together.

491
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Speaker 3: That's why it doesn't bother Golden State.

492
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 4: A team like that that has some veterans on their team,

493
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,199
Speaker 4: they gonna get a couple of days off. They right

494
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 4: back at it, but they get the rest with these

495
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 4: young guys, gotta understand that and figure out different ways

496
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 4: to be effective. I think with Houston, you have to

497
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 4: respect what they have, and that's double team step You

498
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 4: can't let Steph beat you. If I'm your dooka, I'm

499
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 4: gonna put my pride to the side, I know. But

500
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 4: they want to be this tough defensive team, and you

501
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 4: just want to have a couple of guys that can

502
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 4: guard individually. I'm gonna respect Steph as a top ten

503
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 4: player to ever play this game, and I'm a double

504
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 4: team him and make Buddy Hill, make Gary Payton this

505
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 4: that a second beat Moody.

506
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Speaker 3: They gotta beat me. I'm not.

507
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,400
Speaker 4: It's long. I'm going like back in the old school days.

508
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 4: I'm running across the half court. I'm dropping Steph. Just

509
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,719
Speaker 4: just pusting that out of his hand a little bit,

510
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 4: making some other guys take some shots. You can't have

511
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 4: a nightlight tonight when you get four or five other

512
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 4: guys in double figures and Steph yet thirty.

513
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 2: That's gonna be tough to be in that way. You're

514
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: absolutely right. And another thing you look, I'm essential. I

515
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,880
Speaker 2: ain't going nowhere because guess what, I ain't gotta play.

516
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 2: I ain't got to play in Orlando and then lead

517
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 2: that night and go to and go to go to

518
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 2: Miamas and then come back up the road and go

519
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 2: to Atlanta and then I hit Charlotte and then I'm

520
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,360
Speaker 2: up to Balton. I ain't got no long road to hade.

521
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 2: I'm here, so I might be here for four days,

522
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: but I'm here. I don't have any travel whereas in

523
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 2: the regular season you got traveling. Like you said, those

524
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: young legs can take advantage. Now be stationary. We ain't

525
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 2: going nowhere until we leave and have to go back home. Well,

526
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: that favor of the team that's been there, that knows

527
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,479
Speaker 2: what it's like to be in situations like this and

528
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: to be able to like to to to like, okay,

529
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 2: this is what we need to do. Lock in this

530
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,120
Speaker 2: right here, and teams that have been here. Oh Joe,

531
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: they know how to put you in a half course,

532
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 2: said you when you gotta be you got to be able.

533
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: They're not gonna let you get up and down. They're

534
00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: not gonna let you get up and down. You got

535
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 2: you got the executing a half course said, and an

536
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 2: execution normally comes from guy that have been there.

537
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 3: And Kwanne keep saying, superstar players.

538
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,479
Speaker 2: Look at the teams and look at they have at

539
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 2: least one some of them have two superstar players that

540
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: understand this moment and how to get it done.

541
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

542
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 4: The reason, it's the reason why State, it's the reason

543
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 4: why Golden State made the trade they did.

544
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 3: For Jimmy Butler. They wasn't gonna be leave.

545
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 4: They knew they couldn't continue to lease Steph Curry on

546
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: that island by himself.

547
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong.

548
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 4: I love Drake, I love Draymond Green. Is probably gonna

549
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 4: be a Hall of Fame. But Draymond Green is not

550
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 4: a score. He's a more of a you know, utility

551
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 4: player's gonna get you four or five rebounds, six seven

552
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 4: as since play defense. He's gonna do all the intangibles,

553
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 4: but they needed another bonafide score to go along with

554
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: Steph Curry, and that's why you saw the additional Jimmy Butler.

555
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 4: So that's the same thing with Houston. You're figuring this

556
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: out right now. You had an exceptional season. I'm not

557
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 4: saying this serious is over, but you have to respect

558
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 4: what you got right now is on the roster. You

559
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,959
Speaker 4: don't have a guy. You don't know who's gonna get

560
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 4: twenty five or thirty Fife. We got to wait to see,

561
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. We don't know right now.

562
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: We're waiting to see who's gonna show up. And you're

563
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 4: askings some young guys.

564
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 3: Jana Green.

565
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 4: This guy's first time around in the rodeo, second time

566
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 4: playing meaningful games like this. It takes some time. But

567
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 4: you gotta respect stuff. I'll I'm gonna say, I would

568
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 4: love to see you Donka. Don't be stubborn. Respect stuff,

569
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 4: Double him and make somebody else beat you.

570
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 5: That's how I want, you know, hey, uncle, Yeah, I

571
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 5: mean listen, and to make make the series obviously interesting. Also,

572
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 5: the head coach Iedoka, he could go talk to Van Vliet,

573
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 5: he could talk to you know, brother Green and say man,

574
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 5: listen in order for to have a chance. Not only

575
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: are we gonna double stuff, double step and do what

576
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 5: we need to do defensively on him. You got the

577
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 5: exertive injury. But on the office end, may y'all, if

578
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 5: you see it, pull it. If you see it, pull it.

579
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 3: Every time.

580
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 5: I need you to put up twenty five twenty five

581
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 5: shots a game.

582
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 3: It's it's the only way because we don't have it,

583
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 3: because we don't.

584
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 5: Have a bona fire superstar. I need one of y'all

585
00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 5: to fill that role and put your cape on.

586
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if they don't win this game, it's over

587
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 2: because I don't believe they can beat them three times

588
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: in a row. If Golden State win this next game

589
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: at home, it's over. See's over to one. They're not

590
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 2: beating them. They're not beating them three games in a row.

591
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 2: And now this was the big this is the big

592
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: game of night. You need to still listen with Yes,

593
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 2: you left one slip away on your home floor, which

594
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: obviously that kills you. You would love to go on the

595
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: Golden State up too. Well, that didn't happen.

596
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: So when that doesn't happen, you know you gotta win

597
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 4: game three to get controlled back of the series. Now

598
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 4: it's back to Golden State because now you're able to

599
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 4: win one without Jimmy. Now he gets two games off

600
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 4: now with a couple of days sprinkling their rest, so

601
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: you don't even have to bring him back because worst

602
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 4: case scenario to too. So now you get Jimmy to

603
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: get a chance, they could get a few extra days rest.

604
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 4: It's just gonna be tough for Houston because they're gonna

605
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: have to find scoring. I don't know where that's gonna

606
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 4: come from. They're still young, Jabari Smith, those young guys

607
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 4: don't have enough mental toughness to say, hey, I'm gonna

608
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 4: get twenty shots up. They did it all. Yeah, I

609
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 4: play back committee, you know what I mean. They're not

610
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 4: gonna shoot the ball and be aggressive like that. So

611
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 4: it's gonna be tough to do that. But they're gonna

612
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 4: be competitive. They're gonna be games like tonight. They're gonna

613
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 4: compete you. Doug's gonna have them ready. But I just

614
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 4: think they're a little out matched. Sometimes match ups matter

615
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,360
Speaker 4: in the playoffs, and I think they're a little out

616
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 4: match right now.

617
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: Say Tin, so there's no scenario with my game.

618
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, So there's no scenario what you see the Rockets

619
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 5: even having a chance.

620
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 3: You really think this series is over.

621
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Speaker 4: You gotta win with it with no Jimmy Butler, you

622
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: gotta get to win, and so you can. Now, you know,

623
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Speaker 4: I'm assuming that Steve Kurts gonna probably Steve k maybe

624
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 4: I can get Jimmy a couple extra Yeah, me too.

625
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 4: So you rest Jimmy again, you're still too too. I

626
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: still like Goolden State. In this scenario, you had to

627
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 4: win to night. I think tonight you had to take

628
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 4: over the series. And then you build that confidence and

629
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 4: then now Jimmy may want to play the next game.

630
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 4: He not filling one hundred percent, you know what I'm saying.

631
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: Now he comes back and now he can kind of

632
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 4: throw that rhythm off a little bit. But now I

633
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 4: think the moment is completely in Golden State hand. They

634
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: had controlled the series.

635
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: Now the most interesting game of the night, the Nuggets

636
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: and the Clippers, and all of these games, with the

637
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: exception of Game three, have come right down to the end.

638
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 2: The series of now tied to two and twine. I

639
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 2: don't know if you're old enough to remember when this happened.

640
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 2: The first thing went through my mind, NC State Houston

641
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three and Albuquerque, New Mexico Gary wittbergon Lorenzo

642
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: Charles dunks it in at the buzzer. They beat Elijah

643
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 2: Ward Clyde Drexler. That great Houston coover team coached by

644
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: coach Guy Lewis rest is soul, and they pull off

645
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: the national championship. Very very similar situation. Replay Center officials

646
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 2: confirmed the ruling. It was a good basket. The ball

647
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 2: was out of his hand when the buzzer went off.

648
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: According to ESPN research, Aaron Gordon Dunk was the first

649
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: ever game winning buzzy beating dunk in NBA postseason history.

650
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: Yokic, He Yokic, look Shave's gonna win the m v P.

651
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: Yoki is the best player in the NBA thirty six points,

652
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: twenty one rebounds, eight assists, two steals.

653
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: He joined Johanna says, the only players with.

654
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: A thirty five to twenty five playoff game over the

655
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: last twenty season.

656
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: He was great when he needed to be great.

657
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: And I don't even I don't know what what, I

658
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 2: don't know what ad work, adjunctives or adverbs or whatever

659
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 2: we want to use to describe this man throd but

660
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: we can't say we can't sing his praise or heat

661
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 2: praise on him enough. That third quarter was was a

662
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: thing of beauty. They expressed to lead the twenty five

663
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: to twenty. But I know you know I'm noticing this,

664
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: and tell me, am I delusional. When teams get down,

665
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: it seems like everybody likes to jump into that zone.

666
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: The Clippers jumped into a zone and it really, it

667
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: really threw them out their rhythm because the guys started

668
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 2: taking early threes byl Forter Junior couple took a couple,

669
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: I think Aaron Gordon took a couple of fake Murray

670
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 2: took a couple and it allowed them to get and

671
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: they started trapping for some turnovers and they got themselves

672
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: back into the ball game. But the Nuggets absolutely had

673
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: to win this game in order to make this a series.

674
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: I can see this being a seven game series. What

675
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: did you like about what you saw from the fight

676
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: and the determination because normally, Twine, you have a lead

677
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: that big and you lose it and the team take

678
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: the lead.

679
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 3: We cooked.

680
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 4: Honestly, you know you would never championship team. You just

681
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 4: saying it right now. Those guys been in the wars.

682
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: They've been there before. They don't get rattled. I think

683
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 4: with the Clippers, and you just alluded to it a

684
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 4: little bit. You gotta pick your poison. I mean, don't

685
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 4: get me wrong. Your kiss is gonna get his numbers,

686
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 4: but you gotta decide it's gonna be thirty six or

687
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: twenty six. And what I mean by you gotta double

688
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 4: him double, You gotta double him with a purpose. I

689
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: can't get him get a trump will double with thirty

690
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 4: because now the chest side.

691
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 3: You want to lose that game. If he's able to

692
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 3: get thirty points.

693
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: You have to make You gotta make Murray, you have

694
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 4: to make you know, Gordon, you have to make Michael

695
00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 4: Porter Jr.

696
00:29:59,360 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: Beat you.

697
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: You have to decide to Lewis there is a great

698
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 4: basketball mind, Jeff van Gundy. I know it's over there.

699
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: Orchestrating the defense. You can't let him have his cake

700
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 4: eating to y'all. Y'all guys are against saying too when

701
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 4: you ever got your cake and eating too. You can't

702
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: give them both. You gotta take away one. And they

703
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 4: didn't do that tonight when he when you look at

704
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: them numbers, you see thirty six, twenty one eight.

705
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: That meant he did everything. Yeah, you gotta you gotta.

706
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 4: Take Yeah, Rhythm have fifteen assists and twenty points. Now,

707
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: Normans I got a chance. But then you're gonna give

708
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: them thirty points. They don't have a chance to beat them.

709
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: The Clippers. Gotta remember the Clippers are missing nothing really

710
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: important piece off the scoring from last year. Obviously, Paul

711
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 4: George is a big piece to replaced. On the scoring side.

712
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: Norman Powell was great today. They're not getting much at

713
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: the point guard position as far as scoring. If the

714
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: Clippers are not, they're kind of doing that back committee.

715
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 4: I think the big fella's playing as good as he

716
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: can play Zubox. He's you know, he's playing unbelievable. You

717
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 4: playing against you know, the best center ever to play

718
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: the game. You know, he may end up as the

719
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: that's another play game. You're playing him one on one

720
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: most of the time and trying to gu out the

721
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 4: man score up. So they're doing a good job and

722
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 4: that in that sense, I just think the Clippers have

723
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 4: to make a decision or we can't give them both.

724
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: Which one are we gonna give them? Are we gonna

725
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: make him a passer or we're gonna let him be

726
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 4: a score. I ain't gonna lie to you. He's that good.

727
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: I don't know what you one to do hard, Yeah,

728
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 4: I have to watch. I gonna have to really watch

729
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 4: the film.

730
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: Chat. I ain't gonna lie.

731
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: I gotta watch the film and like gonna figure out it.

732
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 4: Maybe the percentages. You know, these guys are analytical now,

733
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: so maybe this guy maybe some percentagees that can tell

734
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 4: you which way to go.

735
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: But man, I can't I can't sit and watch him

736
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 3: do both. But hey, this is things too right to one.

737
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: Listen what happened? If you do if you do double him,

738
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: you double it.

739
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 5: You catch him up top, you catch him down in

740
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 5: the post, and you're double him forcing him to kick

741
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 5: the ball out. But you have Michael Porter Junior, Christian Braun,

742
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 5: you got Jamal Hurry playing in your cheerity. In the

743
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 5: way they are tonight, it wouldn't matter if he does

744
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 5: get twenty, if he doesn't get thirty, they gonna they

745
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 5: gonna counter for the points that he does score.

746
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: With the way they played the Now, well, I want

747
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 4: to see him get five guys. I want to see

748
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: them get five guys and double figures again. I'm gonna

749
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 4: try to lose that way. But I'm I'm a lesson

750
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 4: that thought. Okay, I'm gonna make that thirty six twenty

751
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 4: three at the right. I don't want it to be thirty.

752
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: It can't be thirty six and five guys and double figures.

753
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 4: That's what happened tonight.

754
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: You get that.

755
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: That can't You can't nobody beat them like that, right, right, right,

756
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: And Plus the thing is is that you let him

757
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: get it in an efficient manner. Now, if he gets

758
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 4: thirty six and it took him thirty shots, did you

759
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: can live with that?

760
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 5: To one?

761
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 2: That's a great You let him get that. You let

762
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: him get those numbers in an efficient manner. He's fourteen

763
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: to twenty five. Yeah, that's a great point.

764
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: Let him I got, I got. I know Jeff fv Gunny.

765
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: We all know Jeff von Gunny, great defensive mind, one

766
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 4: of the greatest defensive minds that the coach basketball. He

767
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: has to He's won against Michael Jordan, he's won against

768
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: Kobe Bryce want to sing in some of the greatest

769
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,479
Speaker 4: scores that ever played the game. You got to decide

770
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 4: which one. You can't just take both of them. You

771
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 4: can't just let this guy you can't. You can't take

772
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: the you can't take the triple double and the thirty points.

773
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 4: You can't have to happen. I got to you gotta

774
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: make a decision on whether or not I'm the double

775
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: team this guy and make him a passer. Nuggets only

776
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 4: hit ten threes tonight. They ain't hit a lot of threes.

777
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 4: They had ten. No, the Clippers hit ten. So you know,

778
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 4: you you're even in the three point category tonight. So

779
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: I gotta take my chance. I might respect this guy,

780
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: could possibly be the MVP again. He's probably the right

781
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: you know, one of the top five greatest centers ever

782
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 4: played the game. You have to respect guys, That's what

783
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying about Stepf. You have to respect guys and

784
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 4: what they bring to the game and how much a

785
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: difference they make to their team.

786
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: I can't let Joker have both of them. That's just me.

787
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna tilu. You gotta figure out I'm not

788
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: gonna let them do both.

789
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, I thought, you know, they they the

790
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 2: other night he out a triple double, but he was,

791
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: you know, in a losing effort.

792
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: I mean he was since I mean he's he's McCauley.

793
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: There's a reason why he's won three MVPs in the

794
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: last five years. He's probably gonna finish second this year.

795
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: He's been second every other time that he didn't win

796
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: the award. I don't think this year is gonna be

797
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: any different. He's sensational because we've never seen a center

798
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: that can do all that he can do on the

799
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: offensive end.

800
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 3: He has no weakness. Footwork is impeccable.

801
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: He can shoot the three, he has a turnaround, he

802
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 2: can play with his back to the basket. He can

803
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: he can, he can run the offense. Hey, you come

804
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: with a double team. He knows, Oh that's you. So

805
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: my man, this guy's supposed to be over here without

806
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: even looking woo whoop.

807
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: He's basketball player. That's what I meant. That's what I

808
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: mean said.

809
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 4: You gotta respect him, respect the still set, respect what

810
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 4: he brings to the table, and try to take something away.

811
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 4: And then you gotta try to double team. Get it

812
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: ball out of his hands. Make somebody else beat you.

813
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 4: I want to take my chances. I'm I'm if it's me,

814
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: I'm a double team them, and I'm gonna see how

815
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 4: many Michael Porter, Jamal Murray see them and go on,

816
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sew how many shots those guys can in.

817
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 4: I'm gonna see if one of those guys can go off.

818
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to just double change out to frustrate him,

819
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: get it out of hand.

820
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: Did you get a little bit more from a I

821
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: think they need to get a little bit more from

822
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: Chris Done. I thought Kawhi played really well, especially in

823
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: the second half of that fourth quarter.

824
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 3: He was really good. Zobox has given you everything.

825
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: I mean, he's given you what he averaged in the

826
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 2: regular season nineteen and twelve hardened. I like to see

827
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: Harden be a little bit more aggressive. He only took

828
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: eleven shots. I like to see Harden around fifteen to eighteen.

829
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 3: He's I think he's.

830
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 4: Trying to pick his spots and you kind of watch him.

831
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: He's not like overfully aggressive. He's trying to get his

832
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: teammates involved in. But I think it's certain times he

833
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,959
Speaker 4: has to be aggressive. When they go to that Ben

834
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 4: Simmons lineup Ben Simmons anyway, and they're.

835
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: Not even looking at the basket shot. He ain't even looking.

836
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 4: So when you know what I'm saying, shy, he's not

837
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: looking at the basket, So I am not looking at

838
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 4: the basket. Bro he in the game, he's kind of like,

839
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 4: you know, he's on that team, it's six against four

840
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 4: when he's not looking at the basket. So that may

841
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 4: be a time where James go, you know, get it

842
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: to us one on one game and they try to

843
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,720
Speaker 4: be a lot more aggressive. But I do agree with you.

844
00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 3: You need it's them.

845
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 4: You need that thirty the thirty five, like you know

846
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 4: Kawhi Kawhi went on, he had that thirty thirty five

847
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: point performance. You need James and Kawhi got to get

848
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 4: those numbers because you're not gonna get much, you know,

849
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 4: at that center spot. Besides, you know, with with Ben

850
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 4: is in the game, and I know they like to

851
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 4: play that lineup because they get Denver kind of confused

852
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 4: a little bit and everything that Ben Ben is a

853
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: pretty good defender. I am gonna say that he is

854
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: a pretty good defender. He still could play defense, but offensively,

855
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: he's such a liability. You know, it's hard to watch sometime.

856
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 4: I can't believe it that he needs right now.

857
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, hey he to on somebody like Ben Simmons

858
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 5: that has all the potential. Obviously, at one point and

859
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 5: what I thought, based on what I heard and what

860
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 5: I've seen, at what point mentally does a confidence kick

861
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 5: in and he understands how good he can actually be.

862
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 5: He and he finds himself getting in the rhythm and

863
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 5: he finds himself getting confidence. I mean, I don't understand

864
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 5: what the issue is based on him. If you look

865
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 5: at him, you understand what you canna do.

866
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 3: What he can do.

867
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 5: He can play defense, he can score if he had

868
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 5: the confidence and willingness to shoot the ball, whether it

869
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 5: be mid range, where to be three, whether it be

870
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 5: you know, taking people off the dribble to the whole.

871
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 5: It's like he doesn't want to do anything. I don't

872
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: want to scare. I've seen him a clear layup right

873
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 5: there and it's wide open, and he rather pass it off.

874
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 4: I think it's I think at this point it's it's

875
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 4: gonna take a coach then hopeful that honestly believes in them,

876
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 4: play on extended minutes and force him to be aggressive offensively.

877
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: You have to really base that, force him to be that.

878
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: You know, remember he was playing a lot of point

879
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 4: guard towards then before he left obviously left New Jersey,

880
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: but you I mean brook Bay. But he has to

881
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 4: he has to, like you have to put him in

882
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 4: position where you have to force him to be a

883
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 4: score to be a playmaker, like him playing a center

884
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 4: like I would if I was little. I'll let him

885
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: bring the ball off the court against Jolkis. Maybe put

886
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 4: him in a pick a roll, maybe he can turn

887
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: the corner. The joke you can't guard him in the

888
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 4: open court, but you're bailing them out. You're bailing them

889
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 4: out by not letting to be aggressive offensively for what

890
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: you just talked about chat because he don't want to

891
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 4: shoot the ball. He don't want to be aggressive and

892
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 4: attack the basket. That's what's basketball.

893
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 2: So me, me personally, I think it's that shift sail

894
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: because there were times that he had the ball in

895
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: his hand.

896
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 3: At Philly and he wasn't aggressive.

897
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: And you know, you know, Joel Embiid said what he said,

898
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: Doc Rivers said what he said. You see the thing is,

899
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: and I use the analogy like this one Twine and

900
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 2: O Joe M. I can teach you to swim if

901
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: you're not afraid of the water. See if you're afraid

902
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 2: of the water, I can't teach you how to swim.

903
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: You see twin. You said he's afraid of the basket,

904
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: so I can't teach him how to be aggressive. You

905
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: see a guy that's not afraid of the basket. Hey,

906
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm missing okay, okay, Oh well, the next one's gonna

907
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 2: go in.

908
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 3: That's not how he sees it.

909
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: Plus, if he gets fouled, he doesn't want to go

910
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 2: to the pre throw line because he got the yips there.

911
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: So now I'm not looking to score, and I'm not

912
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: looking because they might file me and put my butt

913
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: on the free throw line.

914
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: So I'm afraid of the water.

915
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: So I really won't ever be able to do anything

916
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: but doggy Pallo stand up in the kiddie pool. I'm

917
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: really not gonna try to get I'm not gonna put

918
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: my head up out of the water.

919
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: Go back to look at it.

920
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 4: You, I like, I like what you said is one

921
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 4: hundred percent accurate, and I think that. But I think

922
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: what t Lou is looking at is that maybe I

923
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 4: got a quicker guy. He's been a great defender in

924
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 4: this league. Yokich is not a guy that plays above

925
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: the basket. He plays below the rim. That's a guy

926
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: that I can probably put on and mix it up

927
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 4: a little big because Ben Simmons probably sixteen sixt eleven.

928
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: He's like looking, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa.

929
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: Teah him out he.

930
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 4: Was, he's about sixteen sixty eleven. Chut he That's that's

931
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: why he's playing center. That's why he's playing center. Yeah,

932
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: that big, he's a big kid.

933
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm thinking. I'm thinking he's sixty five sixty.

934
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 4: Six No wait, no, no, no, no, no. The shorter,

935
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 4: the shortest he may be is six y nine. That's

936
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 4: the shortest.

937
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 3: He's being sixth hand. Yeah, he's yeah, and he's supposed

938
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: to be out there dog and it.

939
00:39:59,480 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: Man.

940
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, stop a stop playing.

941
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: That's what got a hundred million dollar contract because he

942
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: was six fives.

943
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: See what concerned me is that I didn't see him

944
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: get any better from his rookie year till now. Go

945
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: back and look at all the guys that's got these

946
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 2: big contracts. Have you seen Shakee get better? Have you

947
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: seen Jaylen Brown get better?

948
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: Better?

949
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: Have you seen Jason Tatum get better? Have you seen Luca?

950
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: Have you seen Jaylen Bronson? Look at all the guys.

951
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves is a prime example. It's hard if you

952
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: put the time in the gym for you not to

953
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: get incrementally better at one It's just hard for you

954
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: to stay the same tells me you're doing the same thing.

955
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: Look at those guys and how they've evolved and how

956
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: they've gotten better and better.

957
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: Look at Kawhi. Kawhi wasn't no scoring when he got

958
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 3: in the league. Kawhi gave you by twelve thirteen. Not

959
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 3: Kawhi can give you twenty six forty seven when he's healthy,

960
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 3: because you see the work that he's putting in.

961
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna be honest

962
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 4: with y'all. You guys know this as athletes, and we

963
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 4: are athletes. You know sometimes guys don't want it.

964
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 3: Man, You know what I mean? Can we can want

965
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 3: them to have it?

966
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 4: We see all the individual talent he showed us a

967
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 4: glimpse from when you can Colls his first couple of

968
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 4: years in the league, or how great it can be

969
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 4: and what you just said, if he hasn't decided to

970
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,439
Speaker 4: put that into work.

971
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: And I love t lit to T. Lou is one

972
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 3: of the best.

973
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: Coaches in the league and great motivators, and if Tluke

974
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 4: can't get him to playing basketball at a level, that's

975
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 4: gonna just contribute to help the team. I don't know

976
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: where you go from here. This is like the perfect scenario.

977
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 4: You don't have to have the ball in your hands.

978
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 4: You got a guy like Kawha scoring the ball. All

979
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 4: you got to do is do the intangibles on the team.

980
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: But they didn't even step up. You can't get donuts

981
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: from them, You can't. You gotta get some. You gotta

982
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 4: get something.

983
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: Out of it. You had two points tonight.

984
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, I tell you what you could do.

985
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 3: We could do. Tell the business Simmons, come on down

986
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: here to Miami and hang with me for six months.

987
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: Were gonna were gonna get him mentally right? Six eleven? Yes,

988
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: all this, all this time, I've been watching basketball. I think,

989
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 3: you know, I think, young boy. I'm thinking he's sixty six,

990
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 3: you know, six y five.

991
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 5: I'm thinking he's scared to shoot the ball obviusly obviously

992
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 5: being in Philly. You know how Philly fans are. They

993
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 5: do not play They will boo you in your own stadium.

994
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 5: So I'm thinking, Okay, maybe he's a little reluctant to

995
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 5: pull the trigger. He doesn't want to go to the

996
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 5: free throw line. Understand it. I know how hard it

997
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 5: is when you're misshots and you're feeling down yourself. But

998
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 5: then he has to deal with the fans. Okay bo,

999
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: And that's one thing. But then I think about, well, damn, still,

1000
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 5: as many years as been, you got your big deal,

1001
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 5: and you still haven't got that confidence in you to

1002
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 5: be able to just at will, just play the game

1003
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: you've been playing since you were young.

1004
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 3: Basketball. All you got to do is take the ball,

1005
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 3: put that motherfuckering the hoop.

1006
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 5: Excuse me, now, my my, my mentality on him is

1007
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 5: now changing because now you're telling me he's six ten

1008
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 5: sixt eleven and he's playing like he like he five

1009
00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 5: ten fact brings he I saw for.

1010
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 3: God, Bring him on down here to Miami.

1011
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 5: I get you, right, because hey, you gotta understand, I'm

1012
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 5: in high school. I was only six four, but I

1013
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 5: every fifty six a game since my freshman yar in

1014
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 5: high school.

1015
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 3: Listen every every night, every every game to our.

1016
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 5: Fifty sixth twelve and nine, fifty six twelve and nine,

1017
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 5: same score line.

1018
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: But I chose to play football instead, like you know,

1019
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 3: you know, you D a few guys down there, I

1020
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 3: can get to fact.

1021
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, play against you D. Hey, I

1022
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: don't know you D twice. Yeah, I got asked you

1023
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: D asked you D about me in high school? Whore

1024
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: I was the real deal.

1025
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 5: I was like I was a mix between like Russell

1026
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 5: Westbrook and John Moran and and and and then Kevin

1027
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 5: and Kevin Durant.

1028
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. I was a little I'm gonna say this,

1029
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: I'm not I never say you play. So just a

1030
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 3: little back story.

1031
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: I played with Donovan McNab who was a great basketball player,

1032
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 4: So I'm not gonna I played with Donovan mcnah great

1033
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 4: basketb Yeah, yeah, a good time, he would he said,

1034
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,439
Speaker 4: was sad as a two sport athlete. You didn't know that,

1035
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 4: but now two sport atflete. Donovan was twenty points a

1036
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: game for me. That's my second money, that was my

1037
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 4: second leading score.

1038
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1039
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: So I can't say that you can't play because I

1040
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 4: know football players be really good.

1041
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would listen. I would listen. I was

1042
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 5: so good. I was so good. Obviously I could have

1043
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 5: played for the Heat with Ronnie Cyclely like they were

1044
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 5: trying to get me back then, but my grandma, my grandma, you.

1045
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 4: Got any footage, you got any footage on VHS?

1046
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: I got the tapes right here in the coupboard. Okay,

1047
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: let me see the footage I got. I got you. Okay,

1048
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 3: I'm a real hooping like I'm from New York.

1049
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 2: I just think the thing now is one and I

1050
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: get what you're saying. Oh till y'all get what y'all saying.

1051
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: But the old saying is either to teach teach a

1052
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 2: child than a broken man. And I think right now, no,

1053
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: they stay right there.

1054
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 3: I understand what he's saying. I understand what he was saying.

1055
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: I got it. You want to rang down? You want

1056
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 3: to write down?

1057
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you want if you if you notice kids learned

1058
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: to swim either than a grown person, because the kid

1059
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: has no inhibitions of the water. They throw you see

1060
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: him throw them babies in there, and the first thing

1061
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 2: they do, they go on the back. They they hey,

1062
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: you tell him one or two times one and they

1063
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 2: get to the back.

1064
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 3: Now you know that, y'all.

1065
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 4: Notice the sports, you know, sometimes you can get with

1066
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 4: that coach, right And I prayed with Tlaw and T.

1067
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: Lou's a good friend of mine.

1068
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 4: And I just thought T Lou would probably be that

1069
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 4: guy that can instill that confidence in.

1070
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: Them to be a lot better. Now.

1071
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 4: I didn't say he have to go out and get

1072
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 4: fifteen twenty points at night, but he has to. But

1073
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 4: he you know, like you just say, can't have two points,

1074
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: You're gonna play you as tenter. If you're gonna have

1075
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 4: two points, let's do some of the stuff you used

1076
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 4: to do. Get six, seven rebounds, high four or five

1077
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: or steps. How I'm an impact on the game because

1078
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 4: he's too all and for whatever reason, I don't know

1079
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: if he's lost it, but I thought with T Lou

1080
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: being there and being under t Lou, then he would

1081
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 4: be able to get that out of him. And then

1082
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: when I seen him in the rotation, I was like, yes,

1083
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 4: this is perfect for him because he's gonna get an

1084
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: opportunity with a great coach that's gonna put him in

1085
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 4: a great position to do the best. Like I like

1086
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: the I'm like the the Clippers mindset, but Ben Simmons

1087
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 4: at the center spot. Let's let's mix it up a

1088
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 4: little bit and see if we can get Joker. But

1089
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: if it don't give you no, no, no, Offensively, guys, it's

1090
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 4: no purpose in playing Ben Simmons. It's no fun because

1091
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 4: jokers weakness, jokers weakness is defense. Well, Ben Simmons is

1092
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 4: not a threat at that, So he didn't do it.

1093
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: He good and plus he's not playing well enough for

1094
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: TLU to give him extended minutes. So in the amount of

1095
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: minutes that he's playing, he's not gonna be able to

1096
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: get you the points to rebounds and assists that he

1097
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 2: would if he was playing a full game.

1098
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: What'sout. That's a great point. Listen.

1099
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know you're not a tape recorder, but I

1100
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 5: needed to rewind that quote because I went to give

1101
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 5: him a pen and pad, I ain't have it on me.

1102
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: Some about a child, something about it was a good one.

1103
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 5: I need that because I got you know, I got

1104
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 5: fifty eleven kids, and I need to be able to

1105
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: use that in my next argument.

1106
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's easier to teach a child that a repair

1107
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 3: a broken man. Stop, stay right there. That's That's what

1108
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. Next time, next time they ask for

1109
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: some money, next time, mother two child. I like that too,

1110
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 3: and so that so that's the problem.

1111
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: No matter how you slice it, Ben is broken when

1112
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: it comes to the offensive end. Can he still slide

1113
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: his feet? Yeah, he's still he's still six'. TEN i,

1114
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 2: mean he ain't gonna.

1115
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 3: Shrink looks. Good it's still in great. Shape, look look

1116
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: look really.

1117
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: Good he looks he looks really. Good but like you,

1118
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: said he gets the ball here unless it's. Uncontested he

1119
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 2: ain't even looking at the rem he's looking he's looking

1120
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 2: to pass it. Off he's looking at a driving. Kick

1121
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: he's looking to do something other than score for. Himself

1122
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: and realize. That so the double team is always gonna

1123
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: come from.

1124
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 5: Him put him around some put him around some folks

1125
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 5: in the off. Seaton i'm telling you it. Happens no put.

1126
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 5: It why, listen you put a ch off some pit

1127
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 5: bulls in a. Cage at some point he becomes what

1128
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 5: he's surrounded. By but if you know the small, dogs

1129
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 5: what do they? Do they walk up to the big

1130
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 5: dogs because they don't know they're. Small so you're telling,

1131
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 5: me that's WHAT i need to, do that's what he

1132
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 5: needs to. Do he needs to go and place himself

1133
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 5: in that environment.

1134
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: Because you, see As twan, said we're wanting something from

1135
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: being more than he's wanting it for. Himself you SEE

1136
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: i can't want that for. You you got to you

1137
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: got to want. That you've got to want to be.

1138
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: Great so you know, what, man he ain't no reason

1139
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: for me to be sixteen and averages three points a.

1140
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 5: Game he's supposed to be doing What katie's. Doing i'm

1141
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 5: not saying he's kd kt is one of the greatest

1142
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 5: scores of all. Time i'm just saying the skill, set

1143
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 5: the height and, SIZE i mean the length that you do.

1144
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 5: Have you, know and you a two way. Players you

1145
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 5: can do.

1146
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: It you can do. Well you only show it on

1147
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: the defensive side of the.

1148
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 5: Ball you play good, defense and you should be a you,

1149
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 5: know taking people off down in the, block down in

1150
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 5: the post mid.

1151
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: Range confidence is gone, Though, man both of you guys

1152
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: Are hall of.

1153
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: FAME i see you know. That when your confidence is,

1154
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: gone man is. Gone you know you can't.

1155
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 3: Do, nothing.

1156
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 4: Man you know you know we play. That you, know

1157
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 4: we play our games with. Confidence that's when we get

1158
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: our Con he don't have. That you can just see.

1159
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: It you.

1160
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: Have to you you have to play. It coaches can't

1161
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: give you. That you have to have a self belief

1162
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: That i'm the baddest more for out. Here, Yes and

1163
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 2: at some point in time they broke his. Confidence they

1164
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 2: broke his confidence because the best player, said, hey we

1165
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 2: had a we had a dunk and we end up

1166
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: making a free.

1167
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 3: Throw.

1168
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 2: Uh and you, know and they, asked, dog could you

1169
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: win a championship with a point guard Like?

1170
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 3: Ben he, SAYS i don't.

1171
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 2: Know instead of, saying of course you, can because the

1172
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: guy's An all he's An All star, player and he's

1173
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: An ALL nba.

1174
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 3: Defender that's what he should have.

1175
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: Said Joel ebidi, said, hey it's unfortunate a, Well, UH

1176
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 2: i wish we could have got an add, One but don't.

1177
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 3: Say, yeah we had a layup and we ended.

1178
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 2: Up making a free throw because now the best player

1179
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 2: and the head coach doubted. Me i've already had some

1180
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 2: doubts seeping in because coaches like you feel, like, hey,

1181
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: son shoot that shot you. DRAW i draw up a

1182
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: play For twan BECAUSE i Know twine is confident in

1183
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:20,720
Speaker 2: his ability.

1184
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: And he gonna go out. There every TIME i draw.

1185
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: Up a play for, him he's gonna somehow try to

1186
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: find a way to break it down and pass it

1187
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 2: to somebody.

1188
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 5: Else, yeah you, know how do you let how do

1189
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 5: you lest?

1190
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: Something like that bother. You how do you lest something

1191
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: like that bother?

1192
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 5: You in order to be great people gonna always be

1193
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 5: chirping sometimes sometimes the calling can be coming from inside

1194
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 5: the house.

1195
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: Sometime to be your own, PEOPLE i don't, care no.

1196
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 5: Disrespect Marvin, lewis if you were to, say you know, what,

1197
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 5: Boy i'm sick of chat out there.

1198
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: Celebrating i'm sick of.

1199
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 5: IT i ain't stopping, nothing because that's HOW i know

1200
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 5: HOW i get in my, rhythm.

1201
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 3: Right you KNOW i can agree with you on. That you.

1202
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: KNOW i used to nasce AFTER i shoot threes and.

1203
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 3: Came up AND i, PLAYED i. Promised it was one

1204
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,479
Speaker 3: coach That Don.

1205
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 4: NELSON i got traded to the mass and he was

1206
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 4: the only coach that tried to stop me from. Dancing,

1207
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: yeah he was like, hey he was, like, WHAT i

1208
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 4: don't want to see you, Dancing but it.

1209
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: Was already in my. BLOOD i couldn't stop. It so

1210
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 3: you know What i'm.

1211
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 4: Saying but that's a great point you. MADE i understand

1212
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 4: what you said. That, Yeah i'm gonna Do i'm gonna

1213
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 4: do my.

1214
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: Thing, yeah every every. Time at the, TIME i don't.

1215
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 3: CARE i don't, care BUT i don't, care but no.

1216
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 5: Disrespect, obviously with all due respect To Ben simmons and

1217
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 5: the game of basketball in, general there is nothing nobody can.

1218
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 5: Say IF i was in that, environment with that kind of,

1219
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 5: side with that kind of, hype with that kind of,

1220
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 5: skill with my, mentality there's a certain effect that you can't.

1221
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: Coach is either in you or is.

1222
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 5: Not kobe had, It Michael jordan got, it A i got,

1223
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 5: It John aron got, It Anthony vers Got you.

1224
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 3: Can't, coach that's it's just in. You AND i don't.

1225
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: Understand how can you be like that and then play so.

1226
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 3: Small i'm gonna make this last point and then we're

1227
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 3: gonna move, up move on a little.

1228
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: Bit. Guys if you think about, it, Yeah covid had,

1229
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 2: confidence but think about what the coach did and a

1230
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 2: game Against utah who took the last. Shot they put

1231
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: the ball in cold seventeen year old's. Hands so NOW

1232
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 2: i got. Confidence you might have, confidence but if somebody

1233
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: don't give you a situation for you to, showcase, now

1234
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 2: what what DO i do with?

1235
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: IT O?

1236
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: Joe he drew up a play and led a seventeen

1237
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: year old with all those veterans on.

1238
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 3: There Kobe air bought, it but it showed.

1239
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: Him, yeah they got confidence to know O. Cole now

1240
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: he goes back into the gym and he comes back

1241
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: a different.

1242
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 3: Player, well you, knows some people don't get, it, man

1243
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: some people just don't get. It damn. Man wait sixty, Eleven,

1244
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 3: MAN i have a nigga in the.

1245
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 4: Post see you got a good ball. Back that's a

1246
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 4: Good wilson.

1247
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: Ball oh let me tell you. Something, hey this ball right, here,

1248
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 3: right this is a special.

1249
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 5: Ball, this this ball me must Be i'm supposed to

1250
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 5: have it inclosed in the case because, listen the, greatest

1251
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 5: the greatest score not score of all, time but THE

1252
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 5: nba player who leaves THE nba and most points ever,

1253
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 5: scored gave me this. Ball as soon as it went

1254
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 5: in the, bucket they hit, it they taped it. Up

1255
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 5: he signed it for. Me this Is Lebron james fifty

1256
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 5: k point, ball and he signed it for.

1257
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 3: YOU i just want to show you that.

1258
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 4: He put it in a cursive huh, yeah, yeah yeah.

1259
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah jo was seen making adjustments and. Subs when the

1260
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: player does, this is he Undermining David edelman because right,

1261
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: before the right before to have the ball got within

1262
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: the half or third quarter and he's, like, hey, hey give,

1263
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: me give Me George DeAndre, jordan come in, here give,

1264
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: me come in. Here block blah blah blah. Blah you

1265
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: saw that.

1266
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: Too oh, Yes.

1267
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: And he's been he's been making a lot of. Substitutions

1268
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 2: you like, THAT i, mean what's going?

1269
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 4: ON i don't like it BECAUSE i, mean let me

1270
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 4: be honest with, you not to go back into the,

1271
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 4: past But Mike malone a you, know a championship coach

1272
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 4: who done a terrific job, coach and that team got,

1273
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 4: fired and it seems like it seems like the players

1274
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 4: have sowed them. Out now now it seems like that's

1275
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 4: what it. Was and because the jokers doing, THAT i mean,

1276
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 4: jokers jokes are junkers at a place right.

1277
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 3: Now obviously.

1278
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 4: You know where he's controlled the franchise and the, obviously

1279
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 4: like you're just talking, about he's probably gonna win another

1280
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 4: m V p.

1281
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,919
Speaker 3: Trophy he's gonna be. Close he probably get ANOTHER mvp.

1282
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 4: Trophy SO i do understand a coach him having to say,

1283
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 4: so but you still can't undermine the. Coach you have

1284
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 4: to listen to the. Coach you gotta let the coach

1285
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 4: make his. Adjustments that's his.

1286
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 3: Job. Uh you never, want as a player have the.

1287
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 4: RESPONSIBILITY i never want to be able to control who's

1288
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 4: in the game who's not a. GAME i can always,

1289
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 4: SUGGEST i can suggest, something BUT i don't want to

1290
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 4: be doing, that especially over mind the.

1291
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: Coach it it.

1292
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: Looks bad and then it trickles down to the other.

1293
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 4: Players you know that on the, team some guys think

1294
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 4: they can do. It you, know it's kind of you,

1295
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 4: KNOW i go back to the simple rules that what

1296
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 4: time you gotta be on the, bus what time you

1297
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: gotta be you, know be up that. Practice it just

1298
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 4: it just goes down the, line you know WHAT i.

1299
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,840
Speaker 4: Mean so you never want to start. That so it

1300
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 4: just it's it seems LIKE i saw, that, like, yeah

1301
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,760
Speaker 4: this is probably Why malone probably got. Fired they probably

1302
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 4: had a lot of extra stuff going, on you know

1303
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 4: WHAT i. Mean but you know it's tough, jokes, jokes

1304
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 4: probably gonna be three TIME. MVP i, mean this guy's,

1305
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 4: yeah SO i don't think you're gonna win it this

1306
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 4: year to, one but it's hard for me to see

1307
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 4: a scenario where he doesn't win at least one more

1308
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 4: because the numbers are gonna be.

1309
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: There the number then be. There he's gonna be somewhere

1310
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 2: between twenty five and thirty. Points he's gonna be somewhere

1311
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 2: between ten and thirteen, rebounds he's.

1312
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 3: Gonna be somewhere between eight and a half and ten.

1313
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: Assist so he's gonna be there for the numbers are

1314
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: gonna be indicative of somebody that should be it should

1315
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: more than qualified to win that.

1316
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 3: Award the question.

1317
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 4: If he if he take care of his body the

1318
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 4: way he has taken care of his body for the

1319
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 4: next couple of, years he definitely will be in the

1320
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,800
Speaker 4: running for one. MORE i think all this all depending

1321
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: on how he takes care of his. Body if he

1322
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: take care of us behead of they entered. THREE i,

1323
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 4: MEAN i know it all look, sexy but you, know

1324
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 4: if he's stay, answered if he stayed injury free and

1325
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 4: can and stay, healthy he'll be right.

1326
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: Back you're, Right he'll be in and running for another.

1327
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: One ahead of this.

1328
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 2: Game edelman accuse The clipper of the pumping in fake

1329
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 2: noise and into, it, Though is that a good?

1330
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 3: Look do you want your coaching like? Man that not?

1331
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: Today it ain't that, Loud it ain't that many people

1332
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: are that's fake. Noise you like you like your coach

1333
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: doing that.

1334
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 4: One, NO i want the coach to believe that we can.

1335
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 4: WIN i don't, want we don't need. Know, actually we

1336
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 4: should believe that we can. Win let's put together a game,

1337
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 4: plan let's go out there right and, really to be,

1338
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 4: honest you don't really like. That you want your home

1339
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 4: court to correct their own. THING i know in some football,

1340
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 4: fields y'all know that some. Arrange some stadiums had their

1341
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 4: own little chants and the.

1342
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: When they get motivated and all.

1343
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 4: THAT i was known back when we were trying to

1344
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 4: turn it, around and In boston before they moved into

1345
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 4: THE Tv, northwindon we had The Free.

1346
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 3: Center we called it the jungle we had because because

1347
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 3: it did get so.

1348
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 4: Loud because we were starting to turn it, around we

1349
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 4: were starting to become a playoff, team we were starting

1350
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 4: to win. Games so our home games were exciting because

1351
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 4: we had kind of created our own energy, now me

1352
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: And paul and we was kind of creating our own.

1353
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 4: Style So i'm like when the fans kind of, like you,

1354
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,120
Speaker 4: know figured it. Out it's kind of like growing up In.

1355
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 4: CHICAGO i remember growing up and Watching michael New, player

1356
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 4: especially when they spreading they had their own The national

1357
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 4: when they The remembers started, lineup they had that music

1358
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 4: that come, out but that was, them that was their own.

1359
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 3: Thing that was only in the, stadium you know WHAT i.

1360
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 3: Mean AND i remember The stateum used to be.

1361
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 4: ROCKING i want to see them Played Orlando madic in

1362
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 4: the stadium when they played The orlando And jordan.

1363
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 3: Camp but, yeah used to be rocking before they moved

1364
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: into The United.

1365
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 4: STATES i just, think you, know every arena gotta have

1366
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 4: their own, stuff and you don't need no coaches getting to.

1367
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 4: That you don't need no Help you ain't nobody piping nothing.

1368
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 4: There and this ain't these this ain't college these. Problems

1369
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: they ain't gonna get distracted too.

1370
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 3: Easy, Yeah but those.

1371
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 2: The new arenas don't have that that intimate feeld because you,

1372
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 2: know you gotta have all this.

1373
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: Technology you got all these jumbo trons.

1374
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: And you got all this all this fancy equipment and

1375
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: stuff like, That so you don't have the intimacy like

1376
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: you had at The Old. Garden you don't have the

1377
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: intimacy like you have at The. Farm at The, farm

1378
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 2: you don't have the intimacy like you had At, chicago

1379
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: at The, Stadium Chicago. Stadium you don't have that like

1380
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: you see The packers have at Lambeau, field or The

1381
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: bears that sold your, field or The chiefs at a

1382
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: at An.

1383
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 3: Arrowhead there's some.

1384
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: Stadium even Hinest field is not the intimacy like they

1385
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 2: had It Three, Rivers. Joe so when you don't have,

1386
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 2: that it's hard to create. That.

1387
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 3: NOW i get.

1388
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 2: It why they do it because the cost of these

1389
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: players are going, up and so we got to find

1390
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: a way to create. Revenues and we want places to

1391
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: have other events other than. Basketball so you see, concerts

1392
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: and you see track the, pools and you See, beyondcey

1393
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: and you see a you, know THE Ncaa final, fours

1394
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: and you see international championship.

1395
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 3: Games SO i get. IT i get. IT i totally get.

1396
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: It but as a professional and plus professionally college, kids,

1397
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: man you, know college kids don't paint their. Faces they're

1398
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 2: gonna take their shirts, Off they're gonna really be into.

1399
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: It.

1400
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: Man look, here, MAN i played twelve fifteen thousand dollars

1401
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: for a. Ticket, Man i'm gonna sit there like be.

1402
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 3: Chilling you know What i'm. Saying you know What i'm,

1403
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: Saying ty you, right that's.

1404
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 4: Right you're gonna enjoyed the best way you. Can BUT

1405
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 4: i don't think you, KNOW i don't think that bothering.

1406
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 4: Pros you guys know that the fans don't bother. Us,

1407
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 4: man when you we a profession our, fleete can you

1408
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 4: enjoy it that they actually kind of motivate. You sometimes

1409
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 4: you get to them sudden places and they get on.

1410
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 4: You you have you now have the fans get on. You

1411
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 4: that motivations you to go out there and play. Well

1412
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 4: SO i don't think that's gonna that bodies professional, athletes

1413
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:14,919
Speaker 4: SO i don't think they need.

1414
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: That you can leave that. Along guys are too mentally

1415
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 3: strong for. That these, days to, me the volume