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Speaker 1: Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Okay, to go Jackuars.

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Speaker 1: Did you know Jack Jaguars? Did you Jaguars Drive Time?

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Speaker 1: Bryan Sex Steps, John O. Ashley. Jaguars Drive Time starts

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Speaker 1: right now. Welcome into Jack's Drive Time, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Duval Motor Company. Throughout today's practice, you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: this shot a live look at the training camp practice field.

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Speaker 1: We have a camera out there today to show you

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Speaker 1: some live drills and to see what's going on. But

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Speaker 1: before the show started and that music played, Bryan got hyped.

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Speaker 1: He was a little excited. Jaguars. That was That was

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Speaker 1: a that was the It was you know the best

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Speaker 1: part about that. People who are watching this, and since

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Speaker 1: it's on social media, I'm not sure if anybody's old enough,

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Speaker 1: but nine Jaguars go fifteen and three, they lose three

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Speaker 1: times to the Tennessee Titans, and that that oh Jaguars

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Speaker 1: rap you remember, um, you know it came out before

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And then Vick Catchman, who was the senior

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Speaker 1: editor of then Jaguars Inside Report, which was still a

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Speaker 1: printed newspaper. Remember that right printed newspapers, UM put on

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Speaker 1: the headline oh Jaguars, which fit right? Song loss oh

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Speaker 1: TC was hot. He like that. He held it up.

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Speaker 1: He said, that's a shot. That's a shot. Vic said,

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Speaker 1: it is what it is. Lots of memories. The season

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Speaker 1: is just flooding me with memories like that. And as

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Speaker 1: as Vic used to say, um, it's the memories that

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Speaker 1: make you rich. And someday you will be rich with

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Speaker 1: memories from your professional footballer. For now, he and I

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Speaker 1: are billionaires when it comes to that. Joe liked it.

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Speaker 1: They liked it. The whole office was dancing. I loved it.

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Speaker 1: Get on the mic and say something. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: funny about that song. What they they sing, Um Ravens,

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Speaker 1: what You're gonna do? Brown's what You're gonna do? Steelers

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Speaker 1: They never said Titans in that song. Never would. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if i'd include if you could bring

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Speaker 1: out it's time for Jaguars football at some point I

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Speaker 1: would just I might lose myself. Who knows. Anyway, we're

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Speaker 1: way off topic, but the twenty fifth season is. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's fun. It really is for people who are watching

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Speaker 1: and for those of us who have been here and

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Speaker 1: the newbie here. With that, let's get into big things.

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Speaker 1: Big thing one is competition. It's all over the training

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Speaker 1: Dunrone encourages competition and excited to see it. H Oh,

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Speaker 1: can a position really on our football team that doesn't have,

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Speaker 1: And I think that that's pretty cool, you know. I

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Speaker 1: mean you go in there and you watch them go,

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Speaker 1: and we'll see which one's grab him and see which

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Speaker 1: I think that's um exciting. Stun Row was rather chipper yesterday,

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Speaker 1: rather positive and optimistic, which is somewhat like unlike him.

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Speaker 1: When he got to the cornerbacks, he also complimented that position.

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Harrison's safety talked after practice and said that entire

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Speaker 1: room is making him better. It just keeps everybody hungry.

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Speaker 1: You know, we're still competing. You know, nobody nobody's spot

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Speaker 1: is solidified. You know, we're competing in this is training camp.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's fire for a spot, so we didn't making plays

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Speaker 1: like that. You know. It just brands energy to the room.

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Speaker 1: It makes it decided it is going to practice fun

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Speaker 1: and finally, big thing three is counting on them, and

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Speaker 1: it's not exactly the superstar that you count you're counting on.

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Speaker 1: You are counting on um Jalen Ramsay and Leonard for Nett.

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Speaker 1: But it's Jeff Swaine, Quincy Williams, Jerry Wilson, guys like

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Speaker 1: play well this season. But one guy almost is becoming

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Speaker 1: The only time I've ever seen that not up for

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Speaker 1: So um at everything he said yesterday, I thought that

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Speaker 1: I think he has a chance to be a really

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Speaker 1: real quick on the Doug thing. Um. I haven't talked

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Speaker 1: and last year got heavy, uh, almost a dark. But

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Speaker 1: And you know, he talked all offseason about changing some things.

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Speaker 1: He was really down last year, but you know all

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Speaker 1: And Doug Moron, head coach of the Jaguars, and and

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Speaker 1: you know, kudos to him for deciding to make that

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Speaker 1: Quincy Williams, I turned to you at one point, we're

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Speaker 1: And you don't see rookie linebackers from Murray State colleges

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a hard transition. I've been saying over

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Speaker 1: maybe not so. It's a position where you were supposed

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Speaker 1: it's okay to pay ten sat guy, But how much

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Speaker 1: do you pay him? How much do you structure your

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Speaker 1: team around him? I think that's what they're wrestling with.

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Speaker 1: And it's a tough question because he's performed. But as

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Speaker 1: he performed to the point where you structure everything around

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Speaker 1: that's a different question. So ten sacks is productive in

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Speaker 1: my mind. Okay, he was elite with twelve sacks in

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Speaker 1: seventeen because he had six forced fumbles and I believe

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Speaker 1: five of those became touchdowns. That was an elite level

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Speaker 1: performance in seventeen last year. If you go back and

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Speaker 1: look at his sacks, they were nice, they were important,

436
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Speaker 1: but they did not change games. Now, it's not all

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Speaker 1: his fault. For goodness sakes, the ball's got to bounce

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Speaker 1: the right way. The offense has got to give you

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Speaker 1: a lead in many cases. I asked the Big Key,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to change games when you're behind, and that's

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Speaker 1: the dilemma they although they did some of that in seventeen. UM.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a very productive pass rusher and I

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Speaker 1: think he's a guy that you should make a fair

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Speaker 1: market offer to but the market setting one and sacks

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Speaker 1: not elite confirmed very productive. Ten sacks is productive. They

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Speaker 1: haven't had enough ten sack guys around here in twenty

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Speaker 1: five years. In fact, you know before seen they had

448
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Speaker 1: been eleven seasons. Bobby McCrae had been the last guy

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Speaker 1: to post ten sacks. So it's not and he did

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Speaker 1: that in two thousand and six. So it's not easy

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Speaker 1: to do. Um, but to be elite, Yeah, you're looking

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Speaker 1: at fifteen, sixteen, seventeen sacks or six seven you know,

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Speaker 1: forced fumbles that become you know, either touchdowns or momentum

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Speaker 1: changing moments in the game. And um, he did not

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Speaker 1: have any elite elite year last year. Fair enough, All right,

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Speaker 1: let's take a live look at the Jaguars new quarterback

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Speaker 1: at the tight end group, Ron Middleton and his tight ends,

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Speaker 1: and that brings us to some camp battles. And you

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Speaker 1: said we're going to have here during training camp, and

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Speaker 1: my camp battle is with these tight ends. Now it

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Speaker 1: all depends on how many wide receivers the Jaguars keep,

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Speaker 1: But my battle is between Ben Koyak and James O'Shaughnessy,

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Speaker 1: kind of similar guys. And you brought in Jeff Swain

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Speaker 1: from Dallas during fregency. You drafted Josh Oliver, who's looked

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Speaker 1: great during training camp. You might keep four tight ends,

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Speaker 1: but if you have to keep three, deciding between these

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Speaker 1: two pretty similar guys. James O'Shaughnessy I think has the

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Speaker 1: edge on athleticism, but similar guys, and I don't really

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Speaker 1: know how they're going to decide between the two well,

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Speaker 1: I would have given the edge to O'Shaughnessy for his

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Speaker 1: receiving ability. Remember he was in Kansas City with folds

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Speaker 1: in for a time, so there is a familiarity the

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Speaker 1: in fact, I've heard Nick mention him. However, Kayak had

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Speaker 1: a couple of big catches on the practice field yesterday,

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Speaker 1: so I mean you're seeing him rise to the occasion.

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Speaker 1: There's one of them. Kayak is a guy who he's

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Speaker 1: made tough catches, remember the touchdown catch at the back

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Speaker 1: of the end zone against Buffalo. Big catches. He's a

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Speaker 1: solid but unspectacular player. I don't think he has the

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Speaker 1: upside of a Jeff Swain and and Swains the guy

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Speaker 1: who came into the league kind of like a Koyak,

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Speaker 1: you know, to be the second third tight end um

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Speaker 1: but Coats rising to the occasion and giving you all

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Speaker 1: he has. It's gonna come down to special teams at

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Speaker 1: that spot. The third tight end is gonna have to

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Speaker 1: be a key contry out, a consistent contributor on special teams.

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Speaker 1: Which one can do it. I think there's a good

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Speaker 1: chance to keep both because it's so important if you're

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Speaker 1: going to have a two tight end set, which which

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Speaker 1: they will to have two guys who can play both uh,

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Speaker 1: So I think they will lean toward trying to keep four.

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Speaker 1: Uh the X factor on decisions like this when don't

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Speaker 1: talked about competition in the NFL these days, there's rarely

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Speaker 1: competition for starting spots because they spend the whole off

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Speaker 1: season trying to fill the depth chart. It's usually what

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Speaker 1: we're talking about, which is bottom, not bombom the roster,

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Speaker 1: but who makes the team um. Often that decision comes

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Speaker 1: down to if we release this guy versus this guy,

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Speaker 1: what are the chances they get picked up. Historically they

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Speaker 1: have been able to risk having Kayak out there and

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Speaker 1: being able to ring them back. O'Shaughnessy having a little

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Speaker 1: more receiving skill might be more coveted, so that might

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Speaker 1: give James O'Shaughnessy the in terms of that fifty three

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Speaker 1: person cut down. But I think they're both. I'd be

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Speaker 1: surprised if both aren't on the field for the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: during the season. Well, and you can see just watching

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Speaker 1: practice Nick Foles looks for the tight end um. That's

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Speaker 1: why I think I think that makes sense. And don't

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Speaker 1: discount the fact that you could see Koyak in the

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Speaker 1: offensive backfield, he's pretty good blocker playing in a fullback

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Speaker 1: role when they when they line up that way. Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles has admitted that he automatically looks for the tight

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Speaker 1: end first. So agreed that you're gonna play to his advantages.

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Speaker 1: All right, Brian, you have wide receivers as your camp

547
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Speaker 1: battle trell Prior and tire breathing right, So Prior looks

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Speaker 1: to me like a guy who can carve out a rule.

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Speaker 1: And again for Jaguars fans who've been around for a while,

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Speaker 1: and Ernest Wilford kind of role in that he's the

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Speaker 1: guy who on third and seven has the body to

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Speaker 1: get to the marker and push forward reach for the

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Speaker 1: big guy. Um for a former quarterback, he certainly understands,

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Speaker 1: you know, the job that they've given. In the way

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Speaker 1: that he plays the game, it's pretty clear he's starting

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Speaker 1: to get more reps up the depth chart a little

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Speaker 1: bit with the with the twos. Wouldn't be surprised at

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Speaker 1: all to see him get more maybe with the ones.

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Speaker 1: Brady is a young guy kind of like Helan Cole

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Speaker 1: who's come out, made some plays, flashed a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You can see he's got the size, the length. Um,

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Speaker 1: it's more a contrast. Do you take a young guy

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Speaker 1: there if you're gonna keep a sixth receiver, or do

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Speaker 1: you take the better Intorell Prior. It's gonna cost you

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. So this live look is is

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Speaker 1: showing you those two guys who are going after it together. Um. Again,

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Speaker 1: it comes down to special teams who can give you

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Speaker 1: more on special teams. Um, if Brady is gonna make

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Speaker 1: it to me, he's more of a of a of

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Speaker 1: a practice squad guy, right. Um. Prior is fighting to

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Speaker 1: to convince them to have I think John a sixth

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, especially if they're gonna keep four tight ends,

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Speaker 1: see what I mean. So they're kind of battling here,

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Speaker 1: but it's not as direct. It's more for who's going

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Speaker 1: to be that next guy. You know they cut Prior

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Speaker 1: keep the fourth tight end, and then Brady's the guy

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Speaker 1: who comes up if they need him at some point

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Speaker 1: in the season. And a couple of things playing into this,

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Speaker 1: and Brian, you touched on one. You put Brady on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad, and there's more of a chance that

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Speaker 1: if you make that moving or at least Brady, that

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Speaker 1: he's around. Prior has a name, so if there are

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Speaker 1: injuries somewhere else around the league, they would probably look

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Speaker 1: to Prior. Okay, let's bringing this guy's got some experience.

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Speaker 1: He is an unbelievably large wide receiver. They don't have that.

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Speaker 1: Keenan likes that element because they don't really have that

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Speaker 1: anywhere else. Um. So the other factor here is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know this in terms of talking to anybody,

589
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Speaker 1: but there's always the possibility of Marquis Lee still on

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Speaker 1: PUP if he starts the season on POP, which, considering

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Speaker 1: the nature of his injury, that would not be un reasonable,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be a huge shock. That will change the dynamic

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Speaker 1: of how they look at these two because all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, the receivers move up, at least temporarily. So

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Speaker 1: often when you're talking about the fifty three man roster,

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Speaker 1: we all focus on that day, and sometimes it's more, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is what we're doing for that day. We're putting

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Speaker 1: this guy on PUP, We're moving this guy here, and

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Speaker 1: it's sometimes really a fifty five fifty six man because

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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna be able to get certain guys back.

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Speaker 1: So that's something to watch for because if Marquis is

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Speaker 1: on pup, then I think this, uh, this conversation around

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Speaker 1: these guys, I think I think one of these guys

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Speaker 1: would make the team. All right. Finally, sticking with offensive battles, John,

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Speaker 1: you have the backup quarterback job, which has become pretty

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Speaker 1: competitive the past few days. Gardner Minshew versus Alex Magoo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's probably not fair not to have Tanner Leo

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Speaker 1: on that list because it's been a pretty Um it

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Speaker 1: seems like the reps overall between these three has been

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Speaker 1: pretty even with Minshew. I haven't charted at Ryan, but

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Speaker 1: it seems like he's getting the most second team rep.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what we thought when they drafted here and

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Speaker 1: you heard all of the acco it's coming on the

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Speaker 1: third day from Tom and Dave and Doug, and I

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Speaker 1: don't have any question that they want him to be

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Speaker 1: the reserve of you know, backup quarterback. Uh. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just gonna hand it to him. But he is a

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Speaker 1: sixth round pick who's a rookie, not prototypical. Um. I've

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Speaker 1: heard nothing to indicate that his football intelligence isn't there,

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Speaker 1: that all the things they like are real. On the

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Speaker 1: other hand, it out of five practices, I've charted it

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Speaker 1: an interception I think from him at least once, except

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Speaker 1: for maybe one day. I mean, so far, it feels

624
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Speaker 1: like too many interceptions and and too many cases where

625
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: maybe that prototypical non prototypical arm has haunted him. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a very good art. That's five practices, one

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Speaker 1: of them in pads. So I'm not jumping off the

628
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Speaker 1: bridge here yet, but I think this will be more

629
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Speaker 1: of a battle than maybe it felt like coming out

630
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Speaker 1: of O. T S. I like his aggressiveness. His history

631
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Speaker 1: shows that from a touchdown to interception ratio, he's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: That's college football or not at this level. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know he's a he's a developmental backup. Does that make sense.

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Speaker 1: He's not a guy that you're never going to expect

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Speaker 1: to start, but he can become a long term backup,

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Speaker 1: you believe, Um, but developmental? Yeah. Well, none of these

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Speaker 1: three guys right give you any confidence if you lose

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Speaker 1: Nick Foles. Right, None of these guys step in like

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Speaker 1: a Chad Henny did for a time and you say, okay,

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Speaker 1: well we can win. This is not a position where

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Speaker 1: you just get There are positions. On September one, whenever

642
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Speaker 1: that cut down day is maybe they just get a guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe they'll be looking for a guy based on what

644
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Speaker 1: they said backup quarterback anymore. In this league, that's a

645
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Speaker 1: tough ask to go get a guy and say, Okay,

646
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Speaker 1: you're gonna play. If I would, I would totally agree.

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Speaker 1: But if they don't, if they don't see progress from

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Speaker 1: that shoe. And I said to you yesterday, you know,

649
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Speaker 1: Lee hasn't had a bad camp. He's got a whale

650
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Speaker 1: of an arm and I've seen him make some great bros.

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Speaker 1: But and yesterday's makes some really worth sure. Um. The

652
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Speaker 1: intriguing thing We're gonna get a lot of opportunities over

653
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Speaker 1: the next month to watch these guys. The intriguing thing

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Speaker 1: about Minshew is h football intelligence and all that stuff.

655
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: College is so much slower than the NFL, and there

656
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Speaker 1: are sometimes I don't know if Gardner fits in this

657
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Speaker 1: or not, but I covered Danny Warfell back years ago.

658
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: Ford best college quarterback I ever saw. I'm personally bias.

659
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Speaker 1: I saw him. I didn't have the arm to make

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Speaker 1: key throws in the NFL, and therefore was despite all

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Speaker 1: the intelligence, never could make it because they were just

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Speaker 1: throws that the defenders were going to jump on um.

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Speaker 1: That's always the scary thing for non prototype guy. Can

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Speaker 1: gardener ever come that we'll see definitely has the i Q,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, the arm could haunt him all right. When

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Speaker 1: we come back, we'll wrap it up with top tweets

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Speaker 1: I think it's no best corner lead. I love the

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Speaker 1: way that Jalen Ramsey plays. Definitely should be in the

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Speaker 1: top twenty. That had the confidence that he has. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter who he lines up against him, who he

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Speaker 1: goes against, He's not going to change the way he

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Speaker 1: plays for anybody for on the top. One lists the

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Speaker 1: fans out of training camp, speaking of that tomorrow is

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Speaker 1: the last open practice for fans to come watch during

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Speaker 1: Speaking of top tweets in this new segment, New Segment,

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Speaker 1: not new, Jalen Ramsey tweeted out that on his daughter,

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Speaker 1: there's no way that twenty six guys are better than him.

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Speaker 1: Any surprised there that he thinks he should be number one? Well, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: but I was a little surprise he was twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: I get it, he did not have a statistically um

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Speaker 1: I popping year last year, But when you look at

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Speaker 1: him right now, I can't imagine there's twenty six guys

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Speaker 1: that are better than him now. He basically had one

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Speaker 1: game last year, the Coles game. We've all talked about

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Speaker 1: it where he you know, just it went, hey, why?

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Speaker 1: And beyond that, I've gotten a lot of questions this

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Speaker 1: year sort of using the premise of, well, we all

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Speaker 1: know Jalen didn't have a great year last year, but

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Speaker 1: how do you and he was? I'm not sure where

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Speaker 1: you come to that conclusion beyond just one year he

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Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl. You know, the postseason honors weren't there,

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Speaker 1: but postseason honors are often tied into how you do

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Speaker 1: Class was fifty four. He wasn't fifty fourth fist player

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Speaker 1: in the league. They were five and eleven. Jalen Ramsey seven.

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Speaker 1: Had the Jaguars been nine and seven, he's probably the

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Speaker 1: top fifteen. It always correlates to that he's uh again.

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Speaker 1: He has come back. He's it's an unpadded day there

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Speaker 1: and he looks like he's in shoulder pads. He's come

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Speaker 1: back in unbelievable shape. I think he's going to have

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Speaker 1: the Corner's always hard to say he's gonna have his

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Speaker 1: best year because you don't know how the stats come.

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Speaker 1: Because if they throw away, there's no question in my

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Speaker 1: mind that he'll be dominant. He's reached that point where

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Speaker 1: I never doubt what kind of year he's going to have. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you've been to the Kentucky Derby. When you were there,

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Speaker 1: could you tell the better horses just by the way

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Speaker 1: they walk. People who know horses can go and stand

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Speaker 1: and watch the way horse sweats. He was that's that's

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Speaker 1: a thoroughbred. And when you watch him be a back

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Speaker 1: pedal walk on a on a football field, you can

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Speaker 1: tell that's the best horse in the field. He's different,

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Speaker 1: he is different. He is made different. His body is

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Speaker 1: made to play corner. He has the you know the

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Speaker 1: great horses, the American Pharaohs, right are those horses that

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Speaker 1: have a killer instinct. And I've read the book by

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Speaker 1: the Jockey and he swore that that horse understood when

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Speaker 1: he was in the last couple of links. Uh. That's

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Speaker 1: that he understands exactly what to do and how to

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Speaker 1: do it from the practice field to the game field.

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Speaker 1: He is as good a football player as there is

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Speaker 1: in football. Now. You may put somebody else number one

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Speaker 1: or number five based on a position they play, but

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00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: that is a thoroughbread right there. I'm gonna disagree with you.

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Speaker 1: His body was put in this earth to play strong safety,

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Speaker 1: which makes it amazing, and I say it's a compliment.

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Speaker 1: Um Again, what's striking about Jalen right now is the

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Speaker 1: physical size. And yet if you stepped back and just

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Speaker 1: watched him, not around anybody else, he moves like a corner,

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Speaker 1: which is an unbelievable combination, and he knows it. He

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Speaker 1: has the killer instinct that Michael Jordan's esque instinct about

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Speaker 1: him right now. He's fun to watch and I hope

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars fans are paying close attention to the way

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Speaker 1: that he practices, because it's rare to find a player

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Speaker 1: with all of those skills. But he wasn't here for

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Speaker 1: O T S. He wasn't when tis I've forgotten it's down.

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Speaker 1: We'll never even talk about O T A S from

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Speaker 1: this point for we're done with that until it up.

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Speaker 1: I think Jalen Rampsy doesn't look like he even needs

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Speaker 1: I'll just leave it at that. All right, Let's start

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Speaker 1: top tweets with something we knew was coming, Dug Moron's

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Speaker 1: comments on Quincy Williams being the fastest on the field

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Speaker 1: right now. Of course D D. Westbrook is going to

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Speaker 1: chime in. He tweets out, Coach Moron, you're dead wrong

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Speaker 1: with this. You know I'm the fastest, easy um. D D.

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Speaker 1: Westbrook has made a big play more than that, made

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Speaker 1: several plays and at least one big play in every

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Speaker 1: practice since training camp opened. If anyone is having the

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Speaker 1: best camp, it's him. If the locker room were open today,

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Speaker 1: I would walk around asking guys if they were the

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Speaker 1: second fastest on the team. There's there's nothing better than

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Speaker 1: seeing these guys over that. How do you think? Well?

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Speaker 1: And so it's always fine I wish the locker room

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Speaker 1: were open because nobody thinks that they're not the fastest guy.

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Speaker 1: And when the Madden ratings came out, we went back

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Speaker 1: and forth between Ddy Westbrook and d J Chark, and

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Speaker 1: DJ Chark actually got a faster rating than Westbrook indeed

786
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 1: freaked out and wanted to go raced Dick Shark in

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Speaker 1: front of the stadium at that moment, it's the competition.

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Speaker 1: You'd like to see it all right? Now, for some

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Speaker 1: fashion trends, it seems like Leonard for Nett is looking

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Speaker 1: in John Osier's closet because he said, I'm rocking my

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Speaker 1: pink visor this year? Which one? Which one? I know

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Speaker 1: you have some options that I know he called you

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Speaker 1: about this, but he's gonna rock one of yours. I

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Speaker 1: have a striking collection to pink. But but you don't

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Speaker 1: have a pink suit and Joe Fortunado does, so I

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Speaker 1: don't think you measure up. Maybe you can get borrow

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Speaker 1: Joe suit with the pink visor and that could be

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Speaker 1: your training camp out for tomorrow. I would be rocking.

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Speaker 1: All right. Let's wrap it up with a guy that

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Speaker 1: we don't really talk about much. Will Richardson Jr. So

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Speaker 1: it's a Philip Pileman's sweet. But Doug Marone said yesterday

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Speaker 1: that from last year to this year, it's night and

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Speaker 1: day the improvements that Will Richardson Jr. Has made. We

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Speaker 1: didn't get to see a lot of him last year,

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Speaker 1: but he's having a good camp and it's a guy

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Speaker 1: we talked about last year being a good option. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's interesting. I have not seen him can with the

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Speaker 1: starters or the backups yet um and that may just

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Speaker 1: be a matter of how they work in the rotation.

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Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see going forward where this

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Speaker 1: ends up. If he's improving, as Doug says, you would

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Speaker 1: think you will see action from him, at least with

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Speaker 1: the reserves, because you would think, Brian, that this is

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Speaker 1: a year that he needs to make the he needs

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Speaker 1: to progress and be on the field or yes, station,

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Speaker 1: I think you have decide what to do with they

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00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: have some high priced offensive lineman and they have a

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00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 1: they're gonna be in a situation next year where they're

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Speaker 1: going to need to let at least one of them,

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Speaker 1: and so Will Richardson's progress this year isn't necessarily for

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Speaker 1: this year. It's that you've got a guy that you

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Speaker 1: can count on plugging and playing with next year. It

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Speaker 1: gives you the confidence that you don't have to go

824
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: worry about drafting because this club has decisions to make

825
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: against the cap every year now with star players. So

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Speaker 1: you must have the Trey Herndon's and the Will Richardson's

827
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Speaker 1: progressing and if they're not starting, so that eventually they can.

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Speaker 1: And you know, last year when they drafted him, they said,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy that probably if he hadn't had

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Speaker 1: the off the field issues in North Carolina State, would

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Speaker 1: have been a second round pick. He has that kind

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Speaker 1: of size and that kind of athletic ability. Okay, good

833
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: pick in the fourth round. Let's see him. They need him,

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Speaker 1: they're going to need him. High praise from coach Marrow

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00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: and that's for sure, Yeah, for sure. All right? What

836
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: am I saying? Bye? Good bye? And coach John D.

837
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Speaker 1: Philippo is speaking after practice and be sure to stay

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00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: tuned that on Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars social media.

839
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Speaker 1: We will see you tomorrow right here on Jaguars Drive

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Speaker 1: Time