WEBVTT - Ep. 138 - Joel Klatt 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:07.520 Welcome to the Clubhouse with Shane Bacon. I am your host, 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:09.840 Shane Bacon, and we've got a lengthy one for you 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:13.600 this week. My pal Joel Klatt at Fox jumps on 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.439 the talk toward championship in the FedEx Cup and the 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.040 year that was in twenty nineteen, and then we hit 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.360 on him helping out with the golf team this year 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:23.760 at the Opens. And then we got into some college football, 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.159 just some preview stuff, very top of the surface, but 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:27.760 I thought you'd like it. 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You 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:59.320 can follow him on Twitter at Joel Clatt and he's 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.680 now got him self a fancy Instagram. That one is 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:06.400 Joel Underscore class and Joel. That's what happens when you 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.600 wait so long to get on the social media trainings. 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.600 You've got to change your names. You don't even have 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:14.080 a consistent social media handle. I know, I'm so old. 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.160 Um yeah, it took me a while to get uh 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.480 into the insta generation. But I do like it more 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:23.639 because it's more positive. Twitter is just like it's just 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.000 like the old Chappelle show, Like if you have hate 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.800 in your heart, let it out. Instagram is like actually 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.000 where like hope and wonder still exists. At least there's 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.600 belief in the good out there. It might be a lie. 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:37.960 Your life might be a complete it might be a complete, false, 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.639 false presentation of who and what you are, but hey, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.440 at least I can look at it and go, man, 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:44.519 that person works out a lot. That is a lot 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.200 of working out to do. I want to ask about 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:49.760 your gram is exactly that. It's what you hope your 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:53.120 life or wish your life was like, whereas Twitter is 0:02:53.280 --> 0:02:56.640 the angst of the reality of what your life actually is. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.000 So it's just bitterness. It is. It's definitely bitter. There 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.200 was there was some fun Twitter stuff this week, and 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.920 obviously we got the Tour Championship, we got Rory versus Kepka. 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:09.040 Before we get to that. Personally, you're a guy that, 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.200 as we all know now loves golf and we did 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.000 a great job this year as a part of our 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.920 coverage at the Opens. Does the golf go down a 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.680 whole bunch starting this week? Is the round's gonna be 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:22.600 deducted on your gen app after after football starts. It's 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:27.799 such a depressing moment because I'm so excited for the season, right, 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:32.040 I really am, and I love what I do. But 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.120 I walked away from the course when was it Friday? 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.800 When it was and I I was like, this is 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:47.240 it for a while? My handicap is about to explode. Yes, 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:50.840 and so you know, I might play, might play. I 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.200 would say between I don't know four and six times 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.080 the rest of the football season. So it's definitely sad 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:01.320 and my rounds go down like crazy. Although this is 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.040 when you can get your handicap up a little bit 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.720 because it's tough to as you know, listen, this is 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:11.000 like lamenting about a positive thing, but when you play 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:14.800 at twelve or an eight handicap and you're, you know, 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.559 down there and you're you're basically giving them their entire 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.760 be of strokes. I don't know how many twelves shoot 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:23.920 seventy eight against me, but I just I'm like, you're 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.760 not a twelve. I'm like, screw you, You're not a twelve. 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.240 Was that seventy seven again? Awesome? Awesome? Make sure you 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.680 plug that one in the in the old phone. Well, 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.039 somebody that that doesn't have to battle much with strokes 0:04:36.040 --> 0:04:39.440 in terms of giving them to players is is Rory mclroy. 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:41.720 And I mean, we're coming off the end of the 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.520 twenty nineteen season wraps up with a Rory mclroy win. 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.440 Of course, he won the Tour Championship again, he wins 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:50.200 the FedEx Cup. And it was I think, and I'd 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:51.839 love to hear your thoughts on this. I think it 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.240 was much needed. I mean, this is a guy in 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.200 Rory mclroy. The trend was starting when he was playing 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:01.000 next to a big name player in a big moment 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.520 he struggled And I'm just gonna roll some off for you, Joel. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.440 You gotta go back to the masters. The third round 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:09.560 he was in the final group at Jordan's Speed when 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.600 Speith was playing unbelievable. Started the day a shot back 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.080 of Speed, He shot seventy seven and didn't make a birdie. 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:17.840 The next year he's three back of Patrick Reed. Of course, 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.400 he flags it on two, has a little short one 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.039 for eagle misses that goes on to shoot seventy four. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.280 Wasn't really a factor after that. The Tour Championship last year, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.720 playing alongside Tiger three shots back, goes out in thirty nine, 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.680 shoot seventy four. Never in the conversation at all, just 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:35.920 really just kind of a person walking alongside Tiger and 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:38.039 that scrum at eighteen. And then you go to that 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.600 w GC event playing with brooks Kepta. He was leading 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.000 Kepto by a shot going into the final round there 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.479 paired together. It was this big moment for golf fans 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.040 to get to see these two head go head to 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:50.280 head and kept a shoot sixty five, Rory shoots seventy one, 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.920 loses by five. It was Rory's a guy we've known 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.080 to be a great front runner. That's how he's won 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:57.960 a lot of his major championships. But I think this 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:00.760 was a really big moment for him to step up. Look, 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:02.800 Brooks KEPTI in the eye, number one player in the 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:06.320 world and take him down on the golf course alongside him. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.960 Did you agree with that? I mean, he he knew. 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.919 He pointed to that that day in Memphis that you 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.200 were talking about the w g C with Brooks directly, 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.200 and he said how disappointing that was, and how he 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.480 wanted to remedy that and fix that and come out there. 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.599 And he talked about not being able to take the 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.080 fight to Tiger last year UM in the Tour Championship 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.080 in that final round, and how he was just walking 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:31.919 along and how he was probably the only guy not 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:36.159 enjoying that walk up the eight team UM last year 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.800 in Atlanta. I would even go to the to the 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:41.919 w g C in Austin when he was, you know, 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:45.679 played the match play against Tiger, and he wasn't really 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:49.279 in that one either. And here's Tiger who's still you know, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.320 hadn't won the Masters yet, he had won the Tour Championship, 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.320 was just slowly getting back into the year, and Tiger 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.719 beat him pretty soundly UM on that day in in Austin. 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.800 So know, I think there's lots of of instances that 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.520 we're creeping up into the back of Rory's mind. And 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.120 maybe it's because that was at the forefront of what 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.360 we were talking about in the golf media. Um. And 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.880 then there's one other factor to this, And and Shane, 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:18.400 I think that everybody watches golf now this is this 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:23.720 is there is a point of demarcation and the sports lifespan, 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:28.720 and it's before Tiger and after Tiger. We expect our 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:32.640 stars to close it out every time, to make the 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:36.600 put every time. That's what we think great golfers do. 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.600 And and like it or not, if you're Rory, that's 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:43.200 the standard for you because of your talent. You know, 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.840 if you're talented enough to do what he's been able 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.640 to do and shoot some of the scorts that he's 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:50.520 been able to shoot, um win by as many shots 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.200 as he's been able to win, and in some of 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:55.640 the biggest championships on Earth, then we expect you to 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:58.480 do it as consistently as Tiger used to do it. 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:02.600 And and I don't know if that's reality. I think 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.240 that the reality the sport is more what Rory is 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:09.320 giving us, even from insanely talented players. I don't know 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.040 if you agree with that or not. But I think 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.600 that it's an expectation management type of conversation for golf fans. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:20.360 Maybe we expect too much from Rory McElroy. Um when 0:08:20.360 --> 0:08:23.160 we see the type of consistency and greatness that we've 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.000 seen from Tiger Woods and even from other guys that 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.640 kind of jump up for a little bit, like a 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.080 Brooks kept up. But I'll tell you this, Brooks didn't 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.640 show up yesterday and I don't see people jumping all 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:36.760 over his throat. I mean, he was somewhat of a 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:38.559 non factor and he was the one with the one 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.400 shot lead. If I'm not taking so um, I don't know. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.160 Maybe maybe it's the way we view it, Shane, and 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:48.160 and there's also a little bit of Rory needed that 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:51.520 and he certainly addressed that after the round. Yeah, it's 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.439 interesting you bring up the Kepka thing because you're right, 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.800 nobody's really mentioning that he didn't play great with the 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.480 lead going into it alongside reemaca Roy. And it's funny 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:06.600 you talk about perception over reality and Bruce Kepka's ability 0:09:06.640 --> 0:09:09.480 to burst on the scene winning these major championships. If 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.080 you think about his year this year, and I mean 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:13.920 He's had an unbelievab year. He's probably gonna be Player 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.520 of the Year. It's something we're gonna get into. But 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.000 you know, he had a chance on seventeen and eighteen 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:19.920 at August to make those birdies and put the pressure 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.280 on Tiger. And the put on eighteen I I can 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.720 I consistently say is one of the worst puts that 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.360 you will see under the gun, because I mean it 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.520 wasn't even close to going in. And if you think 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:31.720 about the way he started on Sunday at the US Open, 0:09:31.760 --> 0:09:34.520 I mean, you know, he he he was. He got 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.320 off to such a hot start, and of course those 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:38.120 first seven holes of the holes you can do it at. 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.439 But then you go to the Open Championship and and 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:43.160 it was a completely reversed It was a complete reversal 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.800 of what he did there. It was a brutal start 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.440 playing alongside J. B. Holmes, And again, I feel like 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:51.040 we don't touch on that. I don't know why we 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.080 don't do it for Kepka and we tend to do 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.320 it for Rory, But that seems to be the approach 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:58.600 we in the media to have for both those players. Well, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.720 I remember, I'm gonna I'm gonna miss the exact number 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.880 of holes. But Brooks, I want to say, played his 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:10.360 last eleven or thirteen holes of that Sunday at the 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:14.040 US Open in one over par. You know he yes, 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.640 Yet did he come out hot? Yes, he did on 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:21.560 the easiest holes on the course, and then nothing, you 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:24.600 know after that, it would mean nothing was going. I mean, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.280 the plots weren't dropping, and that was kind of a 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.840 little bit. I mean, it's crazy because these are the 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.559 two guys that are vying for Player of the Year. 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:33.200 I mean, these are the two guys that are going 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.520 to win it. It's probably gonna bey Brooks Kepka, but 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.480 I mean there's gonna be some rumblings um from PG 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:41.800 eight tour people about what Rory did in those events. 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.920 And I mean I would vote for Brooks kept a 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.440 hundred times over a hundred considering this season, especially how 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:49.280 he played in the major championships. And don't you think 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.080 it's just a matter of I think that some of 0:10:52.080 --> 0:10:54.400 the people that are closer to the tour are going 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:57.719 to try to value the tour and they're gonna look 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.280 at strokes gained, and they're gonna look at Analyz Dix 0:11:00.360 --> 0:11:02.960 and they're gonna look at the players because there's a 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.520 disproportionate value on the players from people close to the 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.240 tour and the network that does the players versus the 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.960 rest of the Gulf world, and how we value the players. 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.320 Championship it's just an okay event, great you know, you 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.360 can tell me how great it is, doll the cows 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.960 come home. It's just not The course is not major 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.680 championship level. It's a great field. It's a great field, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.800 and it presents some amazing theater with the difficulty of 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.240 those last two holes. But it's just not a great course. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.480 And and you can't tell me now, I know, I listen, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:40.120 I understand that it's it's the next card when brought 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:42.679 up when talking about Hall of Fame or great minister 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:44.960 or so on and so forth. But I'm voting for 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.440 Brooks kept a hundred times out of a hundred as well. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.120 I thought he was more consistent over the course of 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.200 the season, even though his strokes game number is not 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.120 gonna be what Rory's was. But but he did it 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:59.440 in the events that I think history will deem matter more. 0:12:00.120 --> 0:12:03.439 And and he was right there and virtually every major 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.360 championship with a chance and got it done in one 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.760 of them. Um, I think it's a brooks Kepta year. 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.760 And I think if you were going to argue, and 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.600 I know we'll get into this a little bit later 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:19.880 as well. I think if you were to ask me 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:27.160 who was hurt most by the format this year in 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.560 the FedEx Cup, I would say it was brooks Kepta. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:31.440 And you've got to expand on that. Is that just 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.200 because it's it was three events just running through right 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.000 after some of the events he wanted and was playing. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.839 I just I just I left it open ended. Didn't 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:41.240 sorry you did like the radio that was like the 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.960 radio thing. I'm very impressed, Like, we'll be right back, 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:48.280 this is coming up next, We'll be right back, joy 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.079 Brooks kept actually had a bad season. Let me tell 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:56.560 you about the VOVO first. So, um, I thought that 0:12:56.640 --> 0:13:01.600 the playoff events, the two playoff events were overvalued for 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.800 Justin Thomas and Patrick Read. I thought that the season 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.920 that Brooks had, regardless of what happened in those playoff events, 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.800 and he should have basically had the lead in the 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.480 Tour Championship to start rather than Justin Thomas. I thought 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.560 that was the only thing I didn't like. I actually 0:13:17.679 --> 0:13:20.400 really liked the staggered start. I know I might not. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.199 I might be in the minority on that in particularly 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.359 with some of the purest They hated this this staggered 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.920 start type of a deal and how we were, you know, 0:13:29.000 --> 0:13:32.760 just aligning strokes rather than points. I thought it was great. 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.800 I thought it made yesterday really good. I thought it 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.720 made the shots more pressure packed because the players knew 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.680 exactly what they were for. Brooks Kepta is putting on 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:44.520 the eighteenth hole for the equivalent and Paul brought it 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:48.160 up right away, the equivalent of a million dollars times. 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.360 Does anybody have a million dollar put in their life? 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:54.920 He had one yesterday. Um, you can look at the 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:58.280 bounce that Rory got on the on the left style 0:13:58.360 --> 0:14:00.840 of what was it? Was? It beat? Yeah, when he 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:02.640 when he pulled that wedge and it looked like it 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.040 was going to go in the drink. And the bill 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.480 as a bill hustle because I remember that the holes 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:08.839 everything used to be flipped. That was the bill hoss 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:11.360 save hole and he got he got a great break 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:13.440 there too. I mean that's a that's a what a 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.520 ten million dollar break? I mean, you know it was 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.320 such it was such a bad it's like that format. 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.480 But I just thought that the two playoffs events going 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.960 in were overvalued and and I thought that they tried 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:27.920 to make those two big they tried to make I 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:29.840 think that they try to make it way too much 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.720 about the playoffs. You know, It's like, listen, it's not 0:14:32.800 --> 0:14:36.800 the playoffs. Just let the season roll into the Tour 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.560 Championship and then stagger the start, and I think we 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:42.920 would have just as good, um kind of of of 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:45.520 a finish to the season. So I thought Brooks should 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:48.440 have entered the Tour Championship with how he played all 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.680 year with the lead, he should have been in the 0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:53.480 Justin Thomas position. And that's why I think he was 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.720 hurt most by the format. Yeah, you know, it's I've 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.960 I've preached this a lot, and you and I are 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.240 in total agreement here. There is an agenda to push 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.160 stuff and make it a bigger deal than it is. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.840 You know what golf has going for it is the 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.720 players dictate the pressure of the event. We can say 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.880 all we want about it, but when you really really 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:15.800 get down to the nitty gritty, for these guys, the 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:19.040 majors matter more. Somebody like Rory McElroy is circling the 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:23.200 Major's brooks Kepta is circling the Major's Tiger Phil Ricky 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.840 on down the line, these guys are circling those events 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.040 as the ones that mean way more to them, and 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:30.640 the money doesn't matter. They could go out there and 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.640 play for free. It's a little bit like the Ryder Cup. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.080 They could make the purse zero dollars for the major 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.000 championships and the guys would still play in it, knowing 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.480 what comes with a Master's victory or a US Open 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.200 title or an Open championship for p G A. And 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.520 I also think that to your point on the players 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.560 and your point on this the FedEx Cup is it 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:52.520 can be great too. It's not a major title. There's 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.200 no reason to push it out there as such. But 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.680 on Sunday, Brooks Keptcott and Rory you're playing in the finals. 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.240 We're gonna watch that. People are gonna watch that. Sports 0:16:01.320 --> 0:16:03.680 fans are gonna pay attention to that. And I said 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.360 something on Twitter again, going back to the positivity of Twitter, 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.680 I said something about the excitement of Sunday and how 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.680 pumped I was that we were getting Captain and Rory 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.240 again in the final group. Especially what I mentioned had 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.760 just happened at the w g C. And somebody goes, well, 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.880 the money doesn't matter at all, you know, we're there 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.120 for the players. I said, well, that's every golf event 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.560 outside of major's, I mean outside of the major's. If 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.760 it's a great final round leaderboard, you are going to 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.400 watch it, golf fan A, B and C. And if 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.800 it's a mediocre leaderboard, you're probably gonna watch it. And 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.120 if it's terrible, and maybe you won't. But I mean, 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.120 golf fans watch good golf and good players play it 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.880 no matter the circumstance. Yeah, listen, I'm I'm in full 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.320 agreement with that, and and I get it from a 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:48.440 business standpoint, and the tour in particular and maybe some 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.640 of the networks they've got to try to drum up support. 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:57.920 But when you have it, you know, I don't know, 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:02.560 I guess I when you've got great championship at hand, 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:06.159 it speaks for itself, you know. And so I was 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.520 all in yesterday, whether it was for fifteen million or not, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:15.520 the same I was watching Memphis. Yeah, that's just the way. 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:17.720 I don't I don't know if that makes us like 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:21.359 golf junkies versus just the casual golf fan. Does the 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:24.600 fifteen million make it more interesting to the casual golf fan. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:27.800 I'm not sure. I do think it's interesting when you're 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:30.560 talking about the back nine and you're seeing these guys 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:33.119 that are the best players in the world and they've 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:38.920 they've like Xander Shockley hit a really average I believe 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.159 into the Uh what was it? Oh, I can't now 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.199 a sixteen hole. I'm so bad at which hole it was. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:51.080 But he had a wed it's THET And I'm like, well, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.920 that's because he's playing for millions of dollars. So all 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.400 these people that all and that's another Twitter tough guy, 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.480 muscles the mooney doesn't out of these guys, Yes, it done. 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:09.159 Fifteen million matters to anybody, of course it does. I 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:11.560 don't care if it's Brooks kept or not. And that 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.120 he's made, you know, six million dollars this year or 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.919 however much he's made. Let's just say for sake of argument, 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:22.040 Brooks kepco has made ten million dollars this year off 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.840 the course and on the course, and he's got a 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:28.600 put yesterday for the equivalent of a million dollars. He 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.719 makes it, he makes four and a half. He misses it. 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.640 He makes three and a half, you might think, well, 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:35.960 who cares four and a half three and it's a 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:40.920 billion dollars. That's a tenth of his income. I'm gonna 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.200 put you on the green for a tenth of your 0:18:43.240 --> 0:18:46.120 income and see how you feel about it. Well, it's 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.720 it's like I was watching million dollar listing last night 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:52.560 and these homes are in New York. It's fifteen six, 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:54.920 and the person that's trying to buy it is like, no, 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.960 I want to offer fifteen four. And it's like, well, 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.240 they can afford a fifteen million dollar home, but they're 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:02.320 not gonna pay two hundred thousand more than they want 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.600 to pay just because they have fifteen million to spend. 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.040 They're just not going to And you know, it's it's 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.280 like like the whole telling, like explaining things to people. 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:16.399 It's this is serious pressure, because this is serious money 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:20.199 for Rory Mcinpoie, Brooks, Capca or anyone it is. It 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.960 is life changing money for people that have already made 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.199 life changing money. And that is why I think that 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.120 the FedEx Cup works, and why I think that when 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.040 people complain about the FedEx Cup, they're just complaining because again, 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.159 it's talked to them too much. I mean, it's almost 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.560 the tourist fault at times that they have to shove 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.840 it down your throat as the ultimate test. If it 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:42.919 was just what it is. This is a ton of 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:45.760 money for these players, This is a life changing event, 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:49.720 and this is as important to them in their careers 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.560 as anything else. Then I think people could watch it 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.119 and go this is great drama because you you nailed it. 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.680 There were some awful golf shots hit on the second 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.280 nine yesterday, and I feel like you don't even see 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.320 that in majors at times when guys completely fall apart. 0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.920 I mean guys were hitting bad wedges. You think about 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.320 the last hole, Zander mses that pud for Bertie, then 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:10.720