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You'rerova to talk social media, elections and misinformation. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:55.000 We are awaiting live comments from former President Donald Trump 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:58.360 after he was found guilty in the first criminal trial 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:01.960 of a former US president sident in US history. For more, 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.680 let's go to Bloomberg Samrie Horden in New York City 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:08.440 and David Gura, who's actually outside of Trump Tower where 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.080 Trump is set to speak at any moment. David, we 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:15.480 start with you. Former President Trump has already given comments, 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.200 He's made his position on the outcome of the trial known. 0:01:19.800 --> 0:01:21.200 What do we expect to come later? 0:01:25.560 --> 0:01:28.319 Yeah, we got brief comments yesterday after that verdict was rendered. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.720 The former President came downstairs in the courtroom in Lower 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.800 Manhattan and decried the proceedings and criticized the judge for 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.280 what had happened, and looked ahead to November fifth, to 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:38.400 the general election. He said, that's when the final verdict 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.399 will be rendered. I expect them in just a few 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.600 minutes time. We're going to hear something similar a variation 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.560 on that theme from the former president. We're looking for 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.080 two things. We're looking for some insight into his temperament, 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.440 how he has reacted to this astonishing verdict, this historic 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.040 verdict yesterday, also looking at sort of what he has 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.800 to say about the path forward for him. There are 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:57.720 a couple of key dates now that lie ahead. The 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.240 first July the eleventh, that's what he's scheduled to be 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:03.520 sentenced again here in Manhattan by Judge Wan Rashaan after 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.600 that verdict was reached yesterday. And then of course November fifth, 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:09.480 that is the general election in the United States. If 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.160 you were mistified, didn't mention that just a couple of 0:02:11.240 --> 0:02:13.840 days after that sentencing date is the Republican National Convention. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:15.880 There's a debate just before them. So this is a 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.160 busy calendar, busy political calendar that has sort of interwoven 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.440 with the legal calendar, and aside from temperament, what happens 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:24.320 with those dates. We want some indication of how this 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:27.160 appeals process is going to go. President former President Trump's 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.000 lawyer was on television last night talking about their intent 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.400 to appeal. What's the timeline for that going to be, 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:35.680 how is that going to dovetail with the sentencing memoranda 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.040 that are going to be filed as well. So ed 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:38.920 getting attention to all of that, hoping to get some 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.440 insight here from Donald Trump when he makes his way 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:42.720 to the atrium of the building behind me. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:43.600 In just a few minutes time. 0:02:44.800 --> 0:02:48.239 Amh the political story and if there is one thing 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:52.280 that President Biden and former President Trump agree on, I 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:55.520 think it's that November fifth is where real decisions will 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:56.080 be made. 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:59.640 Absolutely, that was the message from both those men yesterday evening. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.120 When they use this verdict to really go out and 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.160 say their side of the story and try to campaign 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.600 off of it. That is what Joe Biden's campaign treated 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.880 as well as that's what the former president said yesterday. 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.160 And to David's point, I imagine he's going to make 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:16.800 that same pitch again today. 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:18.200 And they're both. 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.959 Campaigning off of this because this does matter for November fifth, 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.359 because right now, ed when you look at the polling 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.960 that was done ahead of this verdict, it's very muddy 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.320 in terms of it's a mixed bag. It feels like 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.760 a fickle electorate. I want to bring you two polls. 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:37.480 PBS News Hour, NPR Maris poll said sixty percent sixty 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:39.520 seven percent of voters that a conviction would make no 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:41.760 difference to who they decide to cast a vote for 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:44.880 on November fifth. Very key to that more than seventy 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.440 percent of those individuals were independents. Biden will bring his base, 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.840 Trump will bring his base. They have to fight for 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.400 the people that are on the fence and unsure of 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.280 for who they're going to vote for, especially in the 0:03:55.320 --> 0:03:58.040 swing states. But then ahead of that verdict, we also 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.280 had a survey from Marquette Law Score and they said 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.880 that a guilty verdict would produce a four point lead 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:07.320 for Biden head to head in national polls, while a 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.240 not guilty verdict would have resulted in a six point 0:04:10.280 --> 0:04:14.600 Trump lead. Time is only going to tell what message 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:18.760 is going to land with the electorate between now and November. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:22.360 Fifth, Bloomberg, Samory Horden, and David Gurth. Thank you. We'll 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:23.920 get back to both of you later in their hour, 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:26.000 and as you can see the podium and live shot up, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:29.480 we will bring you former President Donald Trump's comments as 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.120 they begin. I want to talk a little bit about markets. 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.520 In the markets, one of the main driving factors was 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:40.479 PCE a growing sense, particularly reflected in the bomb market, 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.960 that the Fed will have room to cut rates as 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.320 its preferred measure of inflation shows some easy although equities 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.520 which got off on a kind of stronger footing at 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.960 the open are a little softer. The S and P 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.600 five hundred, the sort of benchmark index, down a half 0:04:55.600 --> 0:05:00.279 a percentage point. We also continue to reflect on former 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.520 President Johnald Trump's guilty verdict. Trump Media and Technology Group 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.040 off session lows down three point eight percent. There was 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.440 a much more profound move lower in after hours trading 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:14.039 last night. It actually opened higher. It's down lower. We 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.839 use it as a proxy for sentiment, and we track 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.479 that stock based on the market's interpretation of what is 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:24.400 happening with President Trump. Also important is the earning story, 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:28.640 and that is Dell. Dell is down twenty one percent, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.680 extremely high expectations. This is a stock that was soaring 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.880 and investors were believing the AI story in particularly Dell 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:41.000 server business. But those high expectations weren't met, even though 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:44.440 we saw the first quarterly revenue growth in quite some time. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.280 Let's go to Bloomberg's Brody Ford Brody. I think that 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.479 kind of sums it up. This was a company that 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:53.039 was doing well, The stock was riding high. Expectations were high, 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:55.400 and they didn't meet those off the expectations. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.920 Yeah, being down twenty one percent sounds bad until you're 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.839 remember that they were up one hundred and thirty percent 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.160 through I mean, this is a sock that's out performed 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.480 in video this year because everybody remember that wait, hold up, 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:10.520 Dell makes more than computers. 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.800 They make servers. They make high powered servers. If you 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.280 want to train AI models and inference them, you need 0:06:16.279 --> 0:06:19.400 these AI servers. And so they've really vaulted over the 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:21.880 last year as they've seen their orders for these AI 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:27.640 oriented servers go to zero until up about three billion. Right, 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:31.039 So in case where they. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.919 Were Billienback's praty for President Trump is speaking in New 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:34.440 York City. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:38.480 People, these are in many cases, I believe sick people. 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.839 When you look at our country, what's happening where millions 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.279 and millions of people are flowing in from all parts 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.160 of the world, not just South America, from Africa, from Asia, 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.600 from the Middle East, and they're coming in from jails 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:57.720 and prisons, and they're coming in from mental institutions and 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.320 say the asylums. They're coming in from all over the 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:06.120 world into our country, and we have a president and 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.640 a group of fascists that don't want to do anything 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.480 about it because they could. Right now today he could 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.080 stop it, but he's not. They're destroying our country. Our 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.080 country is in very bad shape, and they're. 0:07:17.960 --> 0:07:19.800 Very much against me saying these things. 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:25.520 They want to raise your taxes by four times. They 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:29.160 want to stop you from having cars with their ridiculous 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.360 mandates that make it impossible for you to get a 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:35.160 car ford a car, but make it very possible for 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:36.440 China to build. 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:41.400 All of our cars. It's a very serious problem that 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:41.800 we have. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:46.520 We just went through one of many experiences where we 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:51.480 had conflicted judge, highly conflicted. There's never been a more 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.720 conflicted judge. Now I'm under a gag order which nobody's 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.520 ever been under. No presidential candidates ever been under a 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:02.240 gag order before. I'm under a order, nasty gag order 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.720 where I've had to pay thousands of dollars in penalties 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.520 and fines and was threatened with jail. 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.120 Think of it. I'm the leading candidate. 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:16.920 I'm leading Biden by a lot, and I'm leading the 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.440 Republicans to the point where that's over. So I'm the 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:23.560 leading person for president and I'm under a gag order 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:28.440 by a man that can't put two sentences together given 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.760 by a court, and they are in total conjunction with 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:33.480 the White House and the DOJ. Just so you understand, 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.520 this is all done by Biden and his people, maybe 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.439 his people more importantly, I don't know if Biden knows 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:40.960 too much about it, because I don't know if he 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:45.640 knows about anything, but he's nevertheless the president, so we 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:50.240 have to use his name. And this is done by Washington, 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.040 and nobody's ever seen anything like it. So we have 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:57.160 a judge who's highly conflicted. You know what the confliction is. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:01.120 Nobody wants to write about it, and I'm not allowed 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:03.200 to talk about it. If I do, he said, I 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:07.079 get put in jail. So we'll play that game a 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.120 little bit longer. We won't talk about it, but you're 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:11.480 allowed to talk about it. I hope you do, because 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:13.760 there's never been anybody so conflicted. 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:14.160 It says. 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:19.760 As far as the trial itself, it was very unfair. 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:27.120 We weren't allowed to use our election expert under any circumstances. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.760 You saw what happened to some of the witnesses that 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:34.839 were on our side. They were literally crucified by this 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.560 man who looks like an angel, but he's really a devil. 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.480 He looks so nice and soft, people say, always. 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:44.240 Seems like such a nice man, known unless you saw 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:48.520 him in action, and you saw that with a certain 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:52.760 witness that went through hell. And when we wanted to 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.240 do things, he wouldn't let him. He wouldn't let us 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:59.560 do those things. But when the government wanted something, they 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:03.360 got to everything. They got everything they wanted. It's a 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.960 rigged It was a rig trial. We wanted a venue 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.480 change where we could have a fair trial. 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.560 We didn't get it. We wanted a judge change. We 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:13.360 wanted a judge. 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:19.760 It wasn't conflicted and obviously he didn't do that. Nobody's 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.720 ever seen anything like it. We had a DA who 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.280 was a failed DA. 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.480 Crime is rampant in New York. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.080 Violent crime, that's what he's really supposed to be looking at. 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:35.600 Crime is rampant in New York yesterday and McDonald's you 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:41.800 had a man hitting him up with machetes a machete. 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:46.920 Whoever can imagine even a machete being wielded in a 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.240 store in a place where they're eating, And he's going rampant, 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:54.400 and Bragg is down watching a trial on what they 0:10:54.440 --> 0:11:03.000 call crimes crimes falsifying business records. That sounds so bad 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.000 to me. It sounds very bad. You know, it's only 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.800 a mismeaner, but to me, it sounds so bad. When 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:10.760 they say falsifying business that's a bad thing for me. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.439 I've never had that before. I'm falsifying. 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.720 You know what falsifying business records is in the first degree, 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:21.599 They say, falsifying business records. Sounds so good, right? It 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:26.760 means that legal expense. I paid a lawyer, totally legal. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.880 I paid a lawyer a legal expense, and a bookkeeper, 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:35.400 without any knowledge from me, correctly marked it down in 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:39.559 the books. A very professional woman, highly respected, she testified 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:41.160 marked it. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:42.640 Down in the books. Is a legal expense. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:46.720 So a legal expense paid a lawyer is a legal 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:51.440 expense in the books. It's not a sheet rock construction 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:53.600 or any other thing. 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.719 It's a legal expense. Think of that. 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:01.240 This is what the falsification of cause? And I said, 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.120 what else are you going to call it? What else 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:05.920 are you going to call it? 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:06.080 Now? 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.280 I would have testified. I wanted to testify. 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.320 The theory is you never testify because as soon as 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.720 you testify anybody, if it were George Washington, don't testify 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:16.920 because they'll get you on something that you said slightly 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.600 wrong and then they sue you for perjury. 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:20.600 But I didn't care about that. I wanted to. 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:23.760 But the judge allowed them to go into everything that 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:26.720 I was ever involved, and not this case, everything that 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.200 I was ever involved, and which. 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:29.600 Is a first. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.680 In other words, you could go into every single thing 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:34.960 that I ever did. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:36.200 Was he a bad boy? 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:36.440 Here? 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.920 Was he a bad boy? There? Emma Lewis said, what 0:12:39.920 --> 0:12:40.719 do you need to go through? 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:42.800 And all you wanted to do is testify simply on 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.240 this case because I would have loved to have testified 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.280 to this day, I would have liked to have testified, 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.960 But you would have been You would have said something 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:53.880 out of whack like it was a beautiful sunny day 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.920 and it was actually raining out, and I very much 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:00.559 appreciate the big crowd of people outside. That's incredible what's happening. 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.280 The level of support has been incredible. 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:05.680 So the whole thing is. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.960 Legal expense was marked down as legal expense. Think of that, 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:15.480 is this is the crime that I committed that I'm 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.240 supposed to go to jail for one hundred and eighty 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:21.400 seven years for. When you have violent crime all over 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.240 this city at levels that nobody's ever seen before, where 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.120 you have businesses leaving, and businesses are leaving because of 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.679 this because heads of businesses say, man, we don't. 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.320 Want to get involved with that. 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:37.360 I could go through the books of any business person 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.040 in the city and I could find things that in theory, 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.880 I guess, let's indict him, let's destroy his life. 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:46.199 But I'm out. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.520 There, and I don't mind being out there because I'm 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.280 doing something for this country and I'm doing something. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:52.239 For our constitution. 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:56.360 It's very important, far beyond me, and this can't be 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.840 allowed to happen to other presidents. It should never be 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.760 allowed to happen in the future. 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:03.480 But this is far beyond me. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.439 This is bigger than Trump This is bigger than me, 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.640 This is bigger than my presidency. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:09.760 And the people understand it. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.400 Because I just see a poll just came out the 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:14.240 Daily Mail. 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.040 That was the first one came out. 0:14:16.280 --> 0:14:19.640 It was done last night, right after the verdict, where 0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:23.800 I'm up six points, six points from what we already were. 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.920 We were leading fairly substantially. We're up six points in 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:30.200 the Daily Mail poll. Now, maybe other poles come out 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.160 and says something differently, but a lot of people have 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:37.560 predicted it because the public understands and they understand what's 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.360 going on. This is a scam. There's a rig trial. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:44.400 It shouldn't have been in that venue. We shouldn't have 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.960 had that judge. He should allowed us to have an 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:52.160 election expert. We had the best expert, most respected expert, 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.040 head of the Federal Elections Commission. 0:14:55.040 --> 0:14:56.360 He was all set to testify. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.760 He was waiting for two days and when it was 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:05.440 his Braggs, people protested and the judge knocked him out 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.480 said you can't testify. He actually said, you can't testify 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.560 for anything having to do with the trial. You can 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.280 say what the federal elections is. Well, that doesn't help. 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:19.120 Everybody knows that. But you can't testify, So essentially he 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.280 wasn't able to testify. Other people weren't able to testify. 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:28.440 But with these people, they were able to use people salatious, 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:34.360 by the way, and nothing ever happened. There was no anything, 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.000 Nothing ever happened, and they know it. But they were 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:40.520 as salacious as they could be. And it had nothing 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.680 to do with the case, but it had to do 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.360 with politics. And do you notice the timing, The timing 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.840 was perfect. This case was dead. It was dropped by 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:55.000 every agency, every governmental board. It was dropped by the 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:59.280 highly respected Southern District. They said, no, there's no case here. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.920 It was dropped by federal election. And that's what it's about. 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:05.000 This about a federal election, not a state election. 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:06.880 You're not even allowed to look at it. 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:09.960 They took the state and the city and they went 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:11.000 into a federal election. 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:11.880 They're not allowed. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:16.640 The people from federal elections, Southern District and Washington dropped 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.200 the case. Everybody dropped the case. There was no case. 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:23.880 Sivants dropped the case. And when Bragg came in, he said, 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:26.840 this is the most ridiculous case I've ever seen. And 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:30.040 who would have a certain person again gag order, who 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:34.280 would have a certain person like this ever testify. He said, 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.400 this is essentially one of the worst people I've ever 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:41.560 seen ever to testify. He said, the craziest case I've 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.120 ever seen this is Bragg. Then want to announced I 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:49.720 was running for president. A long time later, they decided 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:57.400 to revive this case and they got a judge, Judge Marshaan. 0:16:57.680 --> 0:16:58.280 Who was. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:03.560 Responsible for another case it was also brought. Destroyed the 0:17:03.600 --> 0:17:05.800 life of a very good man, by the way, destroyed 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:09.280 the life of a very good man who went to 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:12.639 prison once and then they just put him in prison 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.080 again because they said he lied. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.640 He didn't lie. I looked at the statements he made. 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.800 In fact, he didn't remember something, and they put him 0:17:19.840 --> 0:17:24.880 in jail again. They've destroyed him. With me for many years, 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.280 he was an honorable person. He was an honest man. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.920 And if you look at what he did, supposedly it 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.560 never happened. There's never been anything like this. Over the 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:40.879 education of his grandchildren. Over he didn't report that he 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.159 had a car or two cars on his income. 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:44.640 I don't know. 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:47.440 I wonder how many people here have cars. I wonder 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.320 how many people said, oh, you have a car that's 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.760 worth x doll's how to even figure it? And I 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.200 guess you do have to report it, but I would 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:56.560 say probably almost nobody does. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:57.880 Nobody even thinks about it. 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.640 They put this man, they destroyed this man, but they 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.679 put him in jail again because they didn't want him 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.920 to testify. They didn't want him to testify. That's why 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.920 he went to jail. They put him in jail twice. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:17.080 He's seventy seven years old. Now, normally i'd say that's 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.879 an old guy, but I don't feel seventy seven. Nobody 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.160 ever says that about me. I'd like him to say, Gee, 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.879 we have to have a little sorrow for this man 0:18:27.600 --> 0:18:30.600 because they just don't say that about me. But maybe 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.600 I'm better off that way. I think I'm probably better 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.439 off that way. But they put him in jail twice. 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.080 And you have to see what They put him in jail. 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:42.480 And he was threatened by the judge. This man was told, 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.920 you're gonna get fifteen years in jail if you don't 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:51.280 give up Trump. And he was told that you're gonna 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:56.840 get fifteen years in jail. And he made a plea 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:00.280 deal because he the rest of his life. And he 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:04.960 was told that viciously we're living in a fascist state. 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:09.320 He was told that viciously. So you can go to 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:14.480 jail for four months, five months, or you can get 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.440 fifteen years in jail. So do a plea. Almost who 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.159 wouldn't do that plea? Everyone does those please, it's a 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.720 horrible thing. There's a whole group of lawyers that fight that. 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.399 It's so unfair. It's so unfair. But they destroyed his 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:34.240 life so many other things. You look at Southern District 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:39.240 didn't want to bring the case. Nobody wanted to bring 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.639 the case. And then you know who didn't want to 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:45.480 bring the case most of all is Bragg. Bragg didn't 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.119 want to bring it. But then he brought it, and 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:50.080 they tried to make it a different case. They didn't 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:55.119 say legal expense equal legal expense again if I wrote 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:58.119 down and paid a lawyer. And by the way, this 0:19:58.320 --> 0:20:00.359 was a highly qualified lawyer. Now I'm not allowed to 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:02.720 use his name because of the gear order, but you know, 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.560 he's a sleeves bag. Everybody knows that. It took me 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:09.080 a while to find out, but he was effective. He 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.440 did work. But he wasn't a fixer. He was a lawyer. 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:14.000 You know, they like to use the word fixer. He 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:15.720 wasn't a fixer. He was a lawyer at the time. 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.600 He was a fully accredited lawyer. Now he got into 0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:21.960 trouble not because of me. He got into trouble because 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.000 he made outside deals and he had something to do 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:28.439 with taxi cabs and medallions that he borrowed money, and 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:29.600 that's why he went. 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:30.200 And then he. 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:38.600 Pled to three three election violations. And as soon as 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:40.359 I saw that, I said, I wonder why he did that. 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:43.040 He pled He took a deal. Now I took a 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:46.400 deal because he wanted to get off. In other words, 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:48.720 I'll take a plea deal and I want to get off. 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:51.280 And he wanted to make a deal with the Southern District. 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:55.840 And they wrote the worst report I think I've ever 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.399 seen on any human being, other than the report that 0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:04.240 was written on James Coomy by the Inspector General. A 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:08.280 very great inspector General actually wrote a report that was 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:13.159 so bad. This one was possibly worse. The Southern District. 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:15.959 The judge didn't let us use it. He said it's hearsay. 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.040 I said, it's not here, say wouldn't let us use it. 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:21.680 This is about the man. But he got in trouble 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:26.840 for a very simple reason, because he was involved with 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:29.080 borrowing a lot of money and he did something with 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:31.560 the banks. I don't know if it's defrauded the banks, 0:21:31.600 --> 0:21:32.520 but something happened. 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:34.200 You guys know what it is. 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.439