Speaker 1: It's time to place your bets. Let's talk to the pros.
Speaker 1: Welcome in, everybody to betting pros, and it's time to
Speaker 1: talk a little NBA. It's me Joey p Joe piez Apia.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show everybody. We've got a great one
Speaker 1: for you today. One of my boys, one of my
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Speaker 1: now over the last five plus years of my life.
Speaker 1: He's one of my good friends. But he's also one
Speaker 1: of the best folks in terms of NBA to talk
Speaker 1: to out there on the landscape, whether it be DFS,
Speaker 1: whether it be wagering, and today, of course we're talking
Speaker 1: to him about wagering. He's the head of betting content
Speaker 1: over at Fade the Noise and that's FTN for those
Speaker 1: of you cool kids. And as you could see here
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Speaker 1: of my favorite dudes. He's my Pizon. He's Benny Richardi. Everybody.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Benny, how you doing brother.
Speaker 2: That's a hell of an intro right there. Bro sif
Speaker 2: I love it right there? But yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 2: know how it is when you start getting old, John,
Speaker 2: I don't even go like close shopping anymore. Everything I
Speaker 2: have is given to me by like one of the
Speaker 2: companies that I do a show for, one of the
Speaker 2: companies that I hop on for. I'm waiting for my
Speaker 2: betting Pro T shirt right now, so this right now
Speaker 2: that I need one of those, because summer's coming up.
Speaker 2: I need some new T shirts.
Speaker 1: So you know I don't even have one yet. I mean,
Speaker 1: if I don't know how you could get one Before
Speaker 1: I get one, I gotta get more swag. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you're right, you are the swag king. There's no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. Absolutely that is the case. And today
Speaker 1: we're gonna do with Benny's We're gonna go through some
Speaker 1: NBA stuff. We're getting towards the playoffs now, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna go through some of the bets for some of
Speaker 1: the awards, what's out there, what's even worth looking at.
Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about some of the conferences,
Speaker 1: some of the standings where we're at right now, and
Speaker 1: maybe a little look into the playoffs, see what's going on,
Speaker 1: what Benny likes as we're kind of heading closer and
Speaker 1: closer to that, and look, it's it's been a pretty
Speaker 1: dark good NBA season. I would say, you know, I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people were kind of skeptical going
Speaker 1: in once again, and I feel like, you know, the
Speaker 1: further we get down here, the more we're getting to
Speaker 1: more of a sense of normalcy with things, which is great.
Speaker 1: We've seen what's happened last year with the NFL and
Speaker 1: then obviously with Major League Baseball this year with crowds
Speaker 1: being back. So you know, let's start with some of
Speaker 1: the awards, Benny. Let's start with MVP, which Nikola Djokic
Speaker 1: is at minus four hundred on consensus Betting Pros right now. Again,
Speaker 1: Betting Pros takes the consensus from all the different houses
Speaker 1: kind of compiles them into one number. After that, you
Speaker 1: got Joel Embiid at plus three fifty and Steph Curry
Speaker 1: at plus fourteen hundred. So I'm just gonna be simple
Speaker 1: with this. Is this just a foregone conclusion?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 1: Is this something you just completely stay away from or
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, because the odds minus four hundred
Speaker 1: laying four to win one hundred seems kind of crazy
Speaker 1: to me. Do you think there's any chance that embiid
Speaker 1: or anybody else sneaks in this conversation?
Speaker 2: So? Do I think Djokis is the favorite right now
Speaker 2: to win it? Absolutely? Do I think he should be
Speaker 2: minus four hundred? No, I don't. I would not lay
Speaker 2: money on him at minus four hundred right now. Basically
Speaker 2: at minus four hundred, you're saying he has an eighty
Speaker 2: percent chance of winning this award right now, and I
Speaker 2: think it's above fifty percent, but I wouldn't go as
Speaker 2: high as eighty. And like I said, he is probably
Speaker 2: the guy who's most likely to win, But do you
Speaker 2: really want to lay one hundred dollars to win twenty five? Like?
Speaker 2: That's basically what you're looking at here at minus four hundred.
Speaker 2: I think Steph Curry is worth a little bit of
Speaker 2: a gamble here because of all these other guys, he's
Speaker 2: the one. Him and Embiide have a little bit of
Speaker 2: a chance here. Now. The reason why I say, if
Speaker 2: you're gonna make a little gamble here, I'd rather do
Speaker 2: Steph Curry is because you're getting Steph Curry at like
Speaker 2: plus what did you say plus fourteen hundred was the
Speaker 2: if you're gonna make a wager, that's probably the better
Speaker 2: way to go on it right now. Now again, do
Speaker 2: I think Steph Curry is gonna win it? No, I
Speaker 2: do think Nankolea Jokic is gonna win it. But I
Speaker 2: think that at twenty to one on Steph Curry, or
Speaker 2: even fifteen to one on Steph Curry, that's given him
Speaker 2: like a five or six percent chance of winning this award.
Speaker 2: And I think he's probably closer to maybe ten percent
Speaker 2: here because if you look at the numbers this year,
Speaker 2: he's the guy. I mean, it depends what do you
Speaker 2: count as what makes a guy the most valuable to
Speaker 2: his team, Because to me, one of the things that
Speaker 2: I look at is the expected win total that that
Speaker 2: player creates for his team. So basically, they look at
Speaker 2: the stats and they say, a guy like this, if
Speaker 2: you put him off this team and put him on
Speaker 2: another team, this is the number of expected wins a
Speaker 2: guy with these stats would have. You know, Steph Curry
Speaker 2: is thirty three. He's leading the league. So by that metric,
Speaker 2: he is the most valuable player in the league to
Speaker 2: his team. His team would be thirty three depending on
Speaker 2: who the substitution is, but if you substitute him with
Speaker 2: the league average player, they would be thirty three games
Speaker 2: worse off than they are with Steph Curry. Nobody else's
Speaker 2: you know, even close to that number. Joelle Embiid, I think,
Speaker 2: is at thirty one, So he's another guy that's like
Speaker 2: kind of in that conversation. But Steph has the best
Speaker 2: number in the league overall. There. But again, you and
Speaker 2: I know Joe that a lot of these things aren't
Speaker 2: based on stats, right these are they're voted on by
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Writers, their media awards, That's what they are. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: one of the.
Speaker 2: The things that goes along with that is they usually
Speaker 2: give it to a guy who's on the team that's
Speaker 2: winning a lot of games. And you know, there are
Speaker 2: other guys who have had better stats than Djokich has
Speaker 2: this season, but he's the guy that's avoided being hurt. Like,
Speaker 2: if Joel Embiid didn't get hurt, there's a good chance
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid could be the guy who is the you know,
Speaker 2: the one in the clubhouse leader right now. If Lebron
Speaker 2: didn't get hurt. Lebron was having some really good numbers
Speaker 2: on both ends of the floor this year, there's a
Speaker 2: guy that you could be there. You know, Giannis is
Speaker 2: not great on the offensive end, but he's still a
Speaker 2: well above average offensive player, and he's one of the
Speaker 2: elite defensive players in the league, like a top five
Speaker 2: guy when it comes to you know, points safe per
Speaker 2: one hundred possessions. So a lot of these guys had
Speaker 2: a chance, but a lot of these guys also miss
Speaker 2: time right now. So really, the guy who's been consistent
Speaker 2: and who has played even above expectations a little bit
Speaker 2: this year and whose team is winning games right now
Speaker 2: is Nicola Jocis, which is why he is the clubhouse leader.
Speaker 2: But of all the ones we're gonna talk about, there's
Speaker 2: a couple other clubhouse leaders that I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you could put money on him at that price if
Speaker 2: you want to, Jokis is the one that I would
Speaker 2: not be betting on here. This is a guy with
Speaker 2: only twelve expected wins above you know what he would
Speaker 2: normally gap for a replacement player here. Not that that's
Speaker 2: a bad number either, that's still a good number, but
Speaker 2: it's just if not Steph Curry's thirty three, it's not
Speaker 2: joell In BEA's thirty one, Like if that's how we're
Speaker 2: measuring someone's worse to a team. He's really not the
Speaker 2: guy who has meant the most to his team this year.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I look across the board and only
Speaker 1: the lowest number I see here is minus three fifty
Speaker 1: seven over at bet MGM for Djokich. And that still
Speaker 1: seems like, you know, a hard pass there. And I
Speaker 1: like the case that you're making for Curry, and I
Speaker 1: think you know, in sense of like media award right now,
Speaker 1: it seems like the grounds well is going there. But
Speaker 1: I think you're right. It definitely feels as though it, No,
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be so much of a favorite right now.
Speaker 1: It feels like it should be a little bit tighter.
Speaker 2: You know, we're talking betting numbers right now, So it's
Speaker 2: not it's not that I'm saying Nicola Jokis probably isn't
Speaker 2: gonna win. I just don't think that he should be
Speaker 2: eighty percent to win. If you told me he was
Speaker 2: even money right now, I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: bet on him, and even money. You told me he
Speaker 2: was even maybe minus one p fifty minus two hundred,
Speaker 2: so like sixty sixty six percent, I'd probably be like
Speaker 2: all right, Yeah, he's still the guy we should be
Speaker 2: putting money on. And minus four hundred though there's no
Speaker 2: value there, there's I'll give you something that's a bigger
Speaker 2: lock that we're gonna talk about in a little in
Speaker 2: a minute. That's a better number than minus four hundred
Speaker 2: that we should be betting on if we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's move on to the next war here,
Speaker 1: talk about Rookie of the Year, because we've got LaMelo
Speaker 1: Ball at minus three h five and Anthony Edwards at
Speaker 1: plus two hundred. Again, those are the consensus numbers, and
Speaker 1: you go to bettingpros dot com to see all these
Speaker 1: consensus numbers and you can go pick and choose if
Speaker 1: you do like a wager, Well, where can I get
Speaker 1: the best odds? So is this particularly one that you've
Speaker 1: got your eye on. Ball's played very well obviously this year.
Speaker 1: Edwards now slouch either, But right now it's telling you
Speaker 1: that Ball is a clear favorite.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean to be honest, it's not particularly close
Speaker 2: between the two of them. On the floor of this year.
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards had a couple of good games, he's a
Speaker 2: good scorer, but LaMelo Ball is the much better player,
Speaker 2: is the much better all around player, and is gonna
Speaker 2: be the much better NBA player as well long term here.
Speaker 2: Plus he has the name recognition that is gonna help
Speaker 2: him out anyway. Even though Anthony Edwards was the first pick,
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you, Joe, I'm going to
Speaker 2: give a shout out here to an honorable mention guy
Speaker 2: that I like even better than Anthony Edwards. I would
Speaker 2: rather vote for Tyrese Haliburton that I would for Anthony
Speaker 2: Edwards this year. I think he's had a better overall season.
Speaker 2: Right now with the Aaron Fox out on the COVID protocol,
Speaker 2: he's getting a chance to kind of run the team,
Speaker 2: putting up like double double numbers and points and assist
Speaker 2: every night. To me, I always thought he had a
Speaker 2: better season than Anthony Edwards did. Again, Anthony Edwards had
Speaker 2: such a bad start to the year and his team
Speaker 2: was so bad too. It's not like, you know, sometimes
Speaker 2: there's a number one overall pick like Lebron comes in
Speaker 2: and you know, changes his team's fortune in one season.
Speaker 2: If it was a situation like that, I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you have to give it to Anthony Edwards. But I
Speaker 2: just I don't think he's done enough to even I
Speaker 2: even told people that I don't know if I would
Speaker 2: want to bet on him. Even if LaMelo Ball was
Speaker 2: like out for the season and never came back, I
Speaker 2: still thought LaMelo Ball missing the last couple, you know,
Speaker 2: the last couple weeks of the season, already had this
Speaker 2: award locked up because he was by far the best
Speaker 2: rookie out there. He's still the guy. And again, you
Speaker 2: could take Jokitch at minus four hundred, or you could
Speaker 2: take LaMelo Ball here at like minus three zho five
Speaker 2: minus three zero two. Those numbers are just better. So
Speaker 2: if you're gonna put money on something, put it on
Speaker 2: where you're gonna get the better return. I'd rather be
Speaker 2: here on LaMelo.
Speaker 1: All right, So let's move on to the next one here,
Speaker 1: which is I mean, look, Julius Randall's had a great
Speaker 1: season here for the Knicks, and the Knicks really showed
Speaker 1: a lot of life here down the stretch, and they
Speaker 1: showed a lot of life early on the season two,
Speaker 1: and they got people kind of exciting, and then of
Speaker 1: course they did that Nix lull, which you know, the
Speaker 1: Knicks are like, well, okay, I guess we've kind of
Speaker 1: righted the ship and realized who we are again. But
Speaker 1: then again it kind of peaked as we're getting closer
Speaker 1: to the end of the season. So Randall right now
Speaker 1: is at minus five hundred for this award, Jeremy Grant,
Speaker 1: Is it plus four hundred? Is this another one where
Speaker 1: it's just a lock and you walk away because it
Speaker 1: feels like it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's really no there's no argument that.
Speaker 2: It's no argument there. Yeah, I mean there was there
Speaker 2: was a point in the season where there were like
Speaker 2: three or four guys in the entire NBA who were
Speaker 2: leading their team in points, rebounds on the sist and
Speaker 2: Julius Randall was one of them. The other ones were
Speaker 2: like Luca, Luca Jihni MVP guys. Right, yeah, exactly, Like
Speaker 2: if you're in that company, that's that's the company that
Speaker 2: you're in. He has been a godsend for the Knicks
Speaker 2: this year. He's been basically their entire offense because that's
Speaker 2: really what that team struggles with on the offensive side,
Speaker 2: and his defense has been a little bit better too.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's always been known as a guy who's
Speaker 2: been kind of a dog on defense, but the Knicks
Speaker 2: have one of the top defenses in the league this year.
Speaker 2: I think they're giving up the third fewest points per
Speaker 2: one hundred possessions right now. And you know what, Randall's
Speaker 2: numbers look better than they have. So coming to the
Speaker 2: Knicks has been great for him. He's played as well
Speaker 2: as anybody could this year. You know, he's had triple
Speaker 2: doubles at some points this season. He's had a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of games with double digit assists that we made
Speaker 2: a lot of money on betting on over at FTN.
Speaker 2: It's like my favorite bet this year. Everybody over there
Speaker 2: will be like, oh, you're playing Julius Randall assist again. Well, yeah,
Speaker 2: it keeps getting it. You know, the guy's gonna keep
Speaker 2: going over to number. We're gonna keep playing it. So
Speaker 2: I love Julius Randall. He's made me a lot of
Speaker 2: money this year. I'm just not willing to invest anymore
Speaker 2: of that. At minus five hundred er, I mean, do
Speaker 2: I think it's a lock? Yeah, you can get like
Speaker 2: sixteen seventeen cents on the dollar for every dollar you
Speaker 2: put in there. I mean, if you really don't, you know,
Speaker 2: have any other use for that money. Between now and
Speaker 2: the end of the season the next three weeks. But
Speaker 2: I don't mean throw it in there, but you're not
Speaker 2: gonna get You're not gonna get that great of a return.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's pretty much a lock, all right.
Speaker 1: I was talk about Defensive Player of the Year. Rudy
Speaker 1: Gobert in minus three thirty five is like it says
Speaker 1: this number. Ben sim is at plus two thirty a
Speaker 1: little bit tighter, but again clear favorite here with Gobert
Speaker 1: and Miles Turner is kind of pulling up the rear
Speaker 1: a plus seven. So again, it's very heavy favorites here.
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of are we interested in the
Speaker 1: lock favorite here? And Gobert is that lock favorite When
Speaker 1: it comes to Defensive Player of the year feels like
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is because Utah has been the
Speaker 2: best team in the NBA this year. And that's not hyperbole.
Speaker 2: That's they have the highest point differential per one hundred possessions.
Speaker 2: You know, they're like top five offensive production per one
Speaker 2: hundred offensive efficiency. They're number one I think right now
Speaker 2: currently on defensive efficiency as well. So I mean, this
Speaker 2: is a legit team right there, but they don't have
Speaker 2: a legit superstar who's gonna win the MVP, Like Donovan
Speaker 2: Mitchell's their superstar. He's not gonna be an MVP candidate.
Speaker 2: The writers aren't going to allow this team to have
Speaker 2: this good of a season and not have, you know,
Speaker 2: some kind of awards coming their way. And listen, Rudy
Speaker 2: Gobert is a deserving favorite for this too. I don't
Speaker 2: want you to think that he's not. Like when you
Speaker 2: look at defensive numbers, there points per one hundred possessions,
Speaker 2: which is the stat that everybody uses, as you know,
Speaker 2: the main one for defense because it kind of encompasses everything. There,
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert is leading the league. He is worth eleven
Speaker 2: and a half points to a team per one hundred
Speaker 2: possessions on the defensive side. Without Rudy Gobert, you would
Speaker 2: expect that team to score eleven, you know, to have
Speaker 2: eleven more points per game scored. Upon him, There's only
Speaker 2: two guys that are over ten. It's him and teammate
Speaker 2: Mike Connolly. And you know, like I said, by far,
Speaker 2: statistically you can make the case that he is head
Speaker 2: and shoulders above everybody else in the league. So I
Speaker 2: understand the three thirty five what I don't understand is
Speaker 2: the guys that are behind them. Ben Simmons, who I
Speaker 2: love and I love Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is one
Speaker 2: of the few guys in the NBA that you can
Speaker 2: legitimately put on any player one through five, whether it
Speaker 2: be the opposing center, of the opposing point guard, or
Speaker 2: anything in between, and he could guard that guy. So
Speaker 2: he is the arguably the most versatile defender in the NBA,
Speaker 2: which is great, but his numbers aren't jumping off the
Speaker 2: page as like, Oh, this guy deserves to be, you know,
Speaker 2: the defensive player of the Year. Without him, his team's
Speaker 2: defense wouldn't be bad. They're a very good defensive team
Speaker 2: and they've been a very good defensive team even in
Speaker 2: games that Ben Simmons didn't play. So is he a
Speaker 2: great defensive player? Absolutely? Is he a positives to them
Speaker 2: on defense? Yes? Does he completely change a game like
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert does And the answer to that is no.
Speaker 2: So I will do this. And Miles Turner. I have
Speaker 2: no idea why that Miles Turner is on this list.
Speaker 2: It makes no sense to me that he is the
Speaker 2: third one on this list whatsoever. But I need to
Speaker 2: I want to throw the third guys in there, the
Speaker 2: guys that should be on this list. Mike Connelly should
Speaker 2: be on this list because, like I said, second best
Speaker 2: defensive number there, one of the best defensive point guards
Speaker 2: in the game has been for a really long time.
Speaker 2: Does he get enough credit? Really? Hope he's First Team
Speaker 2: All Defense this year. You know, Giannis every year deserves
Speaker 2: to be there, and you can say what you want
Speaker 2: about him. The guy's an absolute beast, very much like
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons, can guard just about anybody on the floor
Speaker 2: at any time. He's long, he rebounds, there's a ton
Speaker 2: for your defense right there. And then the other guy
Speaker 2: who's unsung and people don't consider him a great defensive player,
Speaker 2: but his defensive numbers have been amazing this year has
Speaker 2: been Clint Capella. Clint Capella is a big reason why
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Hawk games don't end up one fifty, one
Speaker 2: forty every single night. They still get there every once
Speaker 2: in a while and a bunch of one twenties and
Speaker 2: one thirties, But Clint Coppella deserves a lot more credit
Speaker 2: than he's getting on defense as well. So those should
Speaker 2: be the names behind Rudy Gobert. But Unfortunately, Rudy Gobert
Speaker 2: should win this at three thirty five. If you don't
Speaker 2: like the LaMelo play, this is the other place I
Speaker 2: put my money before I put it on joking.
Speaker 1: Now in some spots like on FanDuel, actually though the
Speaker 1: odds are vastly different, but again, this is the consensus
Speaker 1: number where you know, it's just I also feel like
Speaker 1: you know with the NBA too, there's there's an easier,
Speaker 1: clearer narrative with a lot of these players too, that
Speaker 1: kind of builds over time and then it gets kind
Speaker 1: of locked in, and it's very different than the NFL,
Speaker 1: and it's very because the NFL is very moving, Like
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the year, it was very Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: and then it gets sort of to turn to Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray for a little bit in that discussion, and then that
Speaker 1: went away and Ebsen flows and eventually it's Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen kind of all on the peripheral. But
Speaker 1: with the NBA, I feel like some of these awards
Speaker 1: they just get locked in and then the narrative drives
Speaker 1: itself and then it makes it very difficult by this
Speaker 1: time of the season to really get any sort of value.
Speaker 1: But I think we can find some value here with
Speaker 1: some of these wagers. So let's with just a few
Speaker 1: games left here, let's talk about the Atlantic Division winner.
Speaker 1: We got the Sixers right now, the consensus number to
Speaker 1: win the Atlantic Division minus won thirty nine and the
Speaker 1: Nets at even money. So looking at those two right now,
Speaker 1: where do you put your money, if anywhere, on one
Speaker 1: of these two teams?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would rather have my money on the
Speaker 2: Nets here, and there's two reasons why. So after last
Speaker 2: night's game, the Sixers are forty and twenty one. The
Speaker 2: Nets are forty one and twenty. They're playing seventy two
Speaker 2: games this year, so they both have eleven games left.
Speaker 2: When you break down those numbers and you put them
Speaker 2: into odds and even money, it says that the Nets
Speaker 2: have a fifty percent chance of winning the division, and
Speaker 2: minus one thirty nine, you're giving the seventy six Ers
Speaker 2: a fifty eight percent chance to win the division. Now,
Speaker 2: there's a good chance that these two teams both go
Speaker 2: I don't know, seven and four or eight and three
Speaker 2: three about the end of the season, because based on
Speaker 2: their win percentages this year, that's what you would expect
Speaker 2: them to win about two thirds of the remaining games
Speaker 2: that they have, which with eleven games means they're both
Speaker 2: gonna wind up with six or seven wins here. And
Speaker 2: the Nets already have one game up on the Philadelphia
Speaker 2: seventy six ers, so you know, they could basically match
Speaker 2: the seventy six ers record and still wind up winning
Speaker 2: the division, whereas the Sixers are gonna have to hope
Speaker 2: that the Nets lose a couple of games here. Now, again,
Speaker 2: are the Nets as good without James Harden and without
Speaker 2: the Marcus Aldridge, which is something else we'll talk about
Speaker 2: later when we talk about championship odds, No, they're not.
Speaker 2: But Kevin Durantz back, he's really really good. Kyrie Irving's
Speaker 2: still there. He's really really good, really good. Joe Harris
Speaker 2: is a great shooter who's going to stand in the
Speaker 2: corner and stretch defenses, and that's what every team wants
Speaker 2: right now. So the Nets still have enough pieces where
Speaker 2: they can go six and five worst case, seven and four,
Speaker 2: eight and three best case, and if they do the
Speaker 2: eight and three or the seven and four, it's still
Speaker 2: their division. So if you're gonna give me even money
Speaker 2: on them, where I gotta lay minus one thirty nine
Speaker 2: on the Sixers, who are a game back with eleven
Speaker 2: games to go. You know, I like the Horsetts and
Speaker 2: the lead in the race, Joe, I'm not taking a
Speaker 2: one that's behind.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I agree with you. I would be
Speaker 1: on the net side of things as well. Let's go
Speaker 1: to the Southeast Division here and we have the Hawks
Speaker 1: consensus number which is pretty high mayas four hundred and
Speaker 1: the Heat of plus two seventy five. But again, only
Speaker 1: two games separate them. So I guess here's my question.
Speaker 1: Can the Heat make a late run here with the
Speaker 1: way the schedule looks for them and overtake the Hawks
Speaker 1: or it's just just the Hawks right now playing better basketball.
Speaker 2: So I mean, this really comes down to a numbers game,
Speaker 2: right Like, these two teams are at sixty two already,
Speaker 2: so they're down to ten games each. So what you
Speaker 2: basically have to hope for if you're in Miami is
Speaker 2: Miami's got to go nuts right now. They got to
Speaker 2: go like nine and one or eight and two, and
Speaker 2: then they still have to hope that, you know, the
Speaker 2: Hawks go like five and five over the last ten
Speaker 2: games here in order for them to get there. So
Speaker 2: what you're really betting on is two different things happening.
Speaker 2: You're betting on Miami going on a run right now.
Speaker 2: That is, you know, I'm not gonna say unprecedented, But
Speaker 2: then you also have to hope that Atlanta forgets how
Speaker 2: to play basketball, or that they get a couple injuries
Speaker 2: or something where you know they're gonna lose at least two,
Speaker 2: if not three, of those. They're gonna have to pick
Speaker 2: up three games in the last ten games of the
Speaker 2: season in order to win this conference. It's not again,
Speaker 2: it's not out of the question, but you know, it's
Speaker 2: very hard to do. You're gonna need the Hawks to
Speaker 2: go five and five, and you're gonna have to go
Speaker 2: nine and one. Are You're gonna need the Hawks to
Speaker 2: go four and six, which is completely out of character
Speaker 2: for them, and you're still gonna have to go seven
Speaker 2: and three just to get that done. So there aren't
Speaker 2: a lot of scenarios that really play out in Miami's
Speaker 2: favor here. And I know everybody loves Miami because they
Speaker 2: made that big run last year, but this team has
Speaker 2: not played anywhere near the way they played in the
Speaker 2: bubble last year. The defensive numbers are still pretty good,
Speaker 2: but the offensive numbers are way below what they did
Speaker 2: when they went on that run. And that's really been
Speaker 2: a difference for them this year. They've they have burned
Speaker 2: more money for betters this year than a lot of
Speaker 2: other teams. I think they've only had like a maybe
Speaker 2: like a forty five percent cover percentage this year because
Speaker 2: they've basically been over bet all season.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a staggering number. Their Pacific Division winner right now,
Speaker 1: the Clippers are the consensus favorite minus one thirty nine
Speaker 1: with the Suns. Even your thoughts on this division because
Speaker 1: Sons have played very well this year, we all know that.
Speaker 1: So what do you think about the Clippers and Suns?
Speaker 1: Do you think this is a foregone conclusion or do
Speaker 1: you think kind of like the last even you like
Speaker 1: the Suns.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing here is that there are nine games
Speaker 2: left for the Clippers, eleven games left for the Suns,
Speaker 2: and they're even in the win column right now. So
Speaker 2: the Clippers basically are in the same kind of situation
Speaker 2: where they're gonna have to go eight and one or
Speaker 2: seven and two, and they're gonna have to hope that
Speaker 2: the Suns just play below sixty six percent, which is
Speaker 2: basically what the Suns have won their games at so
Speaker 2: far this year. The Suns are gonna need to go
Speaker 2: like six and five through that last eleven, and they're
Speaker 2: still gonna need like a like I said, like an
Speaker 2: eight and one from the Clippers in order to catch them.
Speaker 2: So this is different than the seventy six ers and
Speaker 2: the Nets because the seventy six ers and the Nets
Speaker 2: have the same amount of games to play. Right in
Speaker 2: this situation, the Clippers have two less games to play,
Speaker 2: and the odds are actually even the Clippers better. I'm
Speaker 2: taking the Suns here. You're giving me eleven games with
Speaker 2: the same amount of wins, and and all I gotta
Speaker 2: do is match the number of wins that the Clippers
Speaker 2: get in order to win. This one is the Phoenix
Speaker 2: Suns at even money. I like this even more than
Speaker 2: I like the Nets and even money.
Speaker 1: There you go. So the Suns and the Nets even
Speaker 1: money consensus, look like they have a real shot to
Speaker 1: make some returns. Let's talk a little bit about the future.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Western and Eastern Conference winners, and maybe
Speaker 1: get your thoughts of the championship here. If you've got
Speaker 1: any early favorites in your mind Western Conference winner. Right now,
Speaker 1: you've got the Lakers at plus one seventy five, the
Speaker 1: Clippers at two sixty. Then you've got the Jazz at
Speaker 1: three ten. Now, you know, I love the way the
Speaker 1: Jazz have played all year. They've been my favorite team
Speaker 1: to watch, no doubt, from the day one of the
Speaker 1: season until now. And it's a different brand of basketball.
Speaker 1: It's more of a throwback brand of basketball. They have
Speaker 1: ball movements there, the defense is there, it's just different.
Speaker 1: It's it's something I enjoy watching. The question is when
Speaker 1: you start matching up against teams with enormous star power,
Speaker 1: what happens? Then? You know, in the short series, can
Speaker 1: this brand of basketball win out? Because look, it's happened
Speaker 1: in the past. I think about that run that the
Speaker 1: Piss had years ago too, where it was not really
Speaker 1: the Ben Wallace years or it wasn't like that one
Speaker 1: go to star guy, but they were able to make
Speaker 1: the system work. A very physical team there too, play
Speaker 1: good defense. But can the Jazz play the style of
Speaker 1: ball and win this conference or is it going to
Speaker 1: be the Clippers or Lakers or maybe even somebody else?
Speaker 1: In your mind?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean short answer is no, the Jazz cannot
Speaker 2: beat those teams if those guys are healthy and they
Speaker 2: have all their star power there. That what makes the
Speaker 2: Jazz so good is they're a very deep team, and
Speaker 2: like you said, they played really good defense in a
Speaker 2: half court and they move the ball and they do
Speaker 2: all that stuff, and that stuff works great during the
Speaker 2: regular season when teams are playing you know, guys eight, nine,
Speaker 2: ten in their rotation, and guys one through five are
Speaker 2: only playing thirty two or thirty four minutes a game,
Speaker 2: and the playoffs, guys one through five are playing forty
Speaker 2: minutes a game. So yeah, that ball movement and stuff
Speaker 2: is great, but it doesn't work as well when it's
Speaker 2: Kawhi Leonard and Paul George and all the studs on
Speaker 2: the other team on the floor for forty minutes. And
Speaker 2: your depth is great too. It's nice to have depth
Speaker 2: when you get in the playoffs, but when you get
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, it's more about your starters because your
Speaker 2: starters are playing extra minutes. So if the other team's
Speaker 2: starters are better than yours, then they're going to be
Speaker 2: on the floor at a disadvantage for a longer period
Speaker 2: of time than they are in a regular season. And
Speaker 2: it happens every year. We watch these teams that come
Speaker 2: out of nowhere and be like, oh man, we didn't
Speaker 2: think they were going to be there, and oh man,
Speaker 2: like the Lakers are sneaking in as like a five seed,
Speaker 2: Well they're seeking is a five seat because le Brown's
Speaker 2: have played in a month and Anthony Davis took like
Speaker 2: two months off because he had some other injury as well.
Speaker 2: But when those guys are healthy, you're not beating that team.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is like everybody's looking right now
Speaker 2: and saying like, oh, well, maybe the Jazz can make
Speaker 2: a run, Maybe the Jazz can do this. I've been
Speaker 2: like you, Joe, I've been higher on the Jazz all year.
Speaker 2: We've been betting them all year, We've been making money
Speaker 2: on them all year. Other people haven't believed in them
Speaker 2: all year. But when it comes to the playoff time,
Speaker 2: you do not want to bet on this team. And
Speaker 2: when it comes to looking at the Western Conference Finals,
Speaker 2: the fact that their number is only thirty or forty
Speaker 2: basis points off of a team like the Clippers, or
Speaker 2: only one hundred basis points of way from a team
Speaker 2: like the Lakers is just ridiculous. The Lakers and the Clippers'
Speaker 2: chances of winning this conference are so much better than
Speaker 2: the chances that the Utah Jazz has because the Jazz
Speaker 2: has to beat not one, but both of those teams
Speaker 2: to get there, and I don't see them doing I
Speaker 2: don't see them beating either of those teams. So at
Speaker 2: some point they're gonna have to play one of them
Speaker 2: and they're gonna wind up losing. If you told me
Speaker 2: we can get the Jazz at like plus seven hundred
Speaker 2: or plus eight hundred, I'd be like, okay, fine. At
Speaker 2: the beginning of the season, they were plus thirty six.
Speaker 2: I bet them at plus twenty four about a month
Speaker 2: into the season, right when they started going on that
Speaker 2: first run of like nine or ten wins in a row.
Speaker 2: Now that number is down to what is that number
Speaker 2: down to with the Jazz like plus seven hundred to
Speaker 2: win the championship, and all these other numbers to win
Speaker 2: the conference, to win the division are all derivatives of
Speaker 2: the number to win a championship. So if we think
Speaker 2: that that number to win a championship at plus seven
Speaker 2: hundred is way too low, then you can't bet on
Speaker 2: this team to win the division or to win their conference,
Speaker 2: because that number is gonna be way too low from
Speaker 2: what you should be getting it on. So for my money,
Speaker 2: right now, the two best bets are still the Lakers
Speaker 2: and the Clippers. If you're looking at take somebody to
Speaker 2: win this division, which.
Speaker 1: One would you go with between the two if you
Speaker 1: had a choice.
Speaker 2: I mean, as long as Lebron is back in playing
Speaker 2: the answers to the Lakers, I mean it is like
Speaker 2: until somebody.
Speaker 1: Well, because plus one seventy five is not terrible to
Speaker 1: come out of the West. That's not a terrible number,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's all right with considering Lebron and becoming
Speaker 1: the star power. I mean, if everything had been clicking
Speaker 1: and everyone's on the court in the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: I think people would look at this number very It
Speaker 1: might even be a minus consensus number right now, but
Speaker 1: it's not.
Speaker 2: Earlier in the year, this was closer to even money
Speaker 2: for them to win the last or plus one twenty
Speaker 2: or something like that. Now it's plus one seventy five,
Speaker 2: and again, they were plus two fifty to win a
Speaker 2: championship at the beginning of the season. Plus two seventy five,
Speaker 2: it might have been like the best number you could
Speaker 2: find on them. Now they're plus three fifty. And again
Speaker 2: if the plus three fifty, if these other numbers are
Speaker 2: derivatives of that win a championship number, then if you
Speaker 2: think that plus two three fifty is too high right now,
Speaker 2: then you got to think any of their other numbers
Speaker 2: are a little too high right now. So I think
Speaker 2: the plus one seventy five for the Lakers probably a
Speaker 2: little higher than it should be. That numbers should be
Speaker 2: more like plus one fifty or below. So you're getting
Speaker 2: some value out of that right now.
Speaker 1: All right, let's switch gears to the Eastern Conference, where
Speaker 1: we have the Nets at the top of the board
Speaker 1: of minus one twelve and the Bucks at three point fifty,
Speaker 1: the Sixers at plus forty four hundred, so a four
Speaker 1: to forty Excuse me, So with the seventy six ers
Speaker 1: at four forty do they become a trendy pick here
Speaker 1: going in? It just kind of it. It feels like
Speaker 1: when you're looking at the odds, you're looking at the board.
Speaker 1: If you are one of these people that really just
Speaker 1: does not believe in the super team of the Nets,
Speaker 1: that the seventy six ers is the way to go
Speaker 1: or is it Jannis in the bucks? Because I think
Speaker 1: last year's playoff run uninspiring. I feel like a little
Speaker 1: bit kind of left a little bad taste in people's mouths.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the money's going to go there.
Speaker 1: Do you think if the money's not going to the Nets,
Speaker 1: it goes to the Sixers? And I guess the question
Speaker 1: is should it be? I mean, are the Nets the
Speaker 1: foregone conclusion?
Speaker 2: So here's my problem with the Nets. I love the Nets.
Speaker 2: And if you told me that James Harden was going
Speaker 2: to be healthy and Kevin Durant was going to be healthy,
Speaker 2: and Kyrie Irving was going to be mentally healthy, and
Speaker 2: all of those guys were going to be there and
Speaker 2: ready and locked in for the run, then minus one
Speaker 2: twelve or minus one fifteen, which is where you're seeing
Speaker 2: it sometimes, is way too low a number, like they
Speaker 2: would be the prohibitive favorite. But I don't know that
Speaker 2: Harden's gonna come back and be okay. You don't have
Speaker 2: the boost that they thought they were gonna get from
Speaker 2: having LaMarcus Aldridge in there, which I don't think people
Speaker 2: realize how big LaMarcus Aldridge news made me look at
Speaker 2: these numbers and say these numbers are too low because
Speaker 2: adding him as your fourth option is just insane, Like
Speaker 2: it's it's almost not fair. It's a trade that they
Speaker 2: wouldn't let me pull off if I was playing on
Speaker 2: PlayStation or something point in time. I mean, they got
Speaker 2: you know, they got him that was released. They picked
Speaker 2: them up like that was a great pickup for them.
Speaker 2: So him, you know, deciding to retire, which you know,
Speaker 2: no knock on him. I would have done the same
Speaker 2: thing if it was my health, So I'm not knocking
Speaker 2: him for it. But it definitely the numbers moved when
Speaker 2: he signed, and when KD was on his way back,
Speaker 2: and when Harden was still healthy at the time, and
Speaker 2: all those guys are supposed to play together. But now
Speaker 2: Harden is out. Harden had a setback, which we don't
Speaker 2: know how long that's going to keep him out. LaMarcus
Speaker 2: Aldridge is out with the heart thing, and this number
Speaker 2: hasn't moved. So to me, this number is over bet
Speaker 2: because at the very least, there should have been some
Speaker 2: kind of adjustment for Aldridge going down and Hardened being
Speaker 2: more of a question mark now than he was a
Speaker 2: couple months ago. And we haven't had that. We haven't
Speaker 2: had a big adjustment back in the other direction. So
Speaker 2: right now, the way I'm looking at it is you
Speaker 2: also got to think about all the injuries this team has.
Speaker 2: Joe like Kevin Durant could go down again. We've seen
Speaker 2: it multiple times. James Harden, maybe he doesn't come back.
Speaker 2: And if that's the case, now you're going to war
Speaker 2: against the Bucks, and against the Toronto team that is
Speaker 2: healthy now, and the seventy six Ers team and whoever else,
Speaker 2: the Celtics who are starting to play a little better,
Speaker 2: and all these other teams. You're going to war with
Speaker 2: just Kyrie Irving, not the big three of Kyrie, Harden
Speaker 2: and Kevin Durant. So I don't think that laying more
Speaker 2: than even money on the Brooklyn Nets right now is
Speaker 2: the best way to go. I think the value actually
Speaker 2: comes from the other team. And I agree that everybody
Speaker 2: is talking about the seventy six Ers, which also makes
Speaker 2: them overvalued and over bet. The place I want to
Speaker 2: go is actually in the Milwaukee box. You look at
Speaker 2: the Bucks. Yeah, you look at the stats for the Bucks.
Speaker 2: Their point differential is only behind I think they're actually
Speaker 2: ahead of the Phoenix Suns now they were trailing them
Speaker 2: most of the season. But the only team that's got
Speaker 2: a better point differential per one hundred possessions is the
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz. So the Milwaukee Bucks statistically are still the
Speaker 2: second best team in the NBA at the current moment,
Speaker 2: and you're getting them at plus three fifty, whereas the Jazz,
Speaker 2: even in the other conference, you're only getting at plus
Speaker 2: three hundred. So I mean, I think it's an easier
Speaker 2: path for them than it would be in the West.
Speaker 2: And there are reasons to think that if Brooklyn's not
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, Brooklyn could wind up losing to one
Speaker 2: of these teams that we're talking about here. And to me,
Speaker 2: Milwaukee is still the best team in the East statistically,
Speaker 2: even though, like you said, people are scared away from
Speaker 2: them because they didn't play last year. But you know what,
Speaker 2: this isn't last year. It's this year, So you can't
Speaker 2: let that carry it over. There's still the statistically better
Speaker 2: team and have the better odds of winning it, and
Speaker 2: at plus three fifty, I think there's value.
Speaker 1: There now when you're looking at the championship. You know,
Speaker 1: before we get more of this knowledge and more of
Speaker 1: this clarity. Is there a number you would want to
Speaker 1: jump on for the championship? Right now? The Nets are
Speaker 1: plus two forty. Doesn't feel like it from what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but maybe that changes because of the odds. We're talking
Speaker 1: about two forty overall to buying in. Doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: you're getting there. You have the Lakers at plus three fifty,
Speaker 1: the Clippers at plus five hundred, the Jazz plus seven,
Speaker 1: which is not a number. So I'm assuming you're going deeper.
Speaker 1: You're looking for maybe the Bucks or somebody like that,
Speaker 1: who in terms of that number very different. So when
Speaker 1: you're looking at consensus, is that where you're going?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it a Bucks number that really pops to you?
Speaker 1: Because there's plus seven to fifty right after the Jazz,
Speaker 1: that's the consensus number in some places, like you'd get
Speaker 1: eight hundred I see in a lot of houses as well.
Speaker 1: When you're looking here, like Foxbeth has meant plus eight
Speaker 1: hundred over on bettingpros dot com, is that where you'd
Speaker 1: be going?
Speaker 2: Alright? So, Joe, you and I have been doing this
Speaker 2: a long.
Speaker 1: Time, right, very many years, my friend.
Speaker 2: All Right, does the regular season matter?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: In the NBA?
Speaker 2: No, all right, and especially I was gonna say, and
Speaker 2: especially in the NBA, the n especially in the NBA.
Speaker 2: So at the beginning of the season, right, you look
Speaker 2: at what the numbers were at the beginning of the season,
Speaker 2: the Nets for plus six hundred, the Clippers were plus
Speaker 2: six fifty, Milwaukee was plus five fifty. The Lakers were
Speaker 2: the big favorites, like plus two to fifty to plus
Speaker 2: two to seventy five, maybe a plus three hundred out there, right,
Speaker 2: So if the regular season doesn't matter other than making
Speaker 2: sure your guys are healthy and you make it to
Speaker 2: the regular season, then why should anything we've seen during
Speaker 2: the regular season really change the way that we thought
Speaker 2: about anything at the beginning of the year, with the
Speaker 2: one exception being the Brooklyn Nets. And the reason for
Speaker 2: it is the Brooklyn Nets are materially different now than
Speaker 2: they were when we were making those plus six hundred
Speaker 2: bets at the beginning of the year. They added that
Speaker 2: James Harden guy, he's pretty good at bet he's all right,
Speaker 2: you know. And again, if he's gonna be healthy, if
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant's gonna be healthy, if Kyrie is gonna be healthy,
Speaker 2: then that should be a lower number than the plus
Speaker 2: six hundred at the beginning of the year. It should
Speaker 2: be basically in line with the number that the Lakers have,
Speaker 2: arguably less than that if you think that that Big
Speaker 2: three is gonna wind up beating Lebron. So seeing that
Speaker 2: number at two forty right now, I don't think it's
Speaker 2: a bad number. I think that's where it belongs. Like,
Speaker 2: I think that's the right number there. Now you should
Speaker 2: also see the Lakers number tick up a little bit
Speaker 2: because of that, because again, now you have a team
Speaker 2: that is much easier to see being a team that
Speaker 2: can challenge them and beat them that numbers at three
Speaker 2: to fifty. Again, it was two fifty at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the year. So I like the fact that I
Speaker 2: could get an extra hundred basis points now on the Lakers,
Speaker 2: because again, if the regular season doesn't matter other than
Speaker 2: to get into the playoffs, then really the season hasn't
Speaker 2: even started yet. So if you're gonna give me a
Speaker 2: better odds on the Lakers now than I could have
Speaker 2: got at the beginning of the season, I like that.
Speaker 2: The same thing goes in the opposite direction for the
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz. Like I said, thirty six hundred at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the season twenty four, you know, about a
Speaker 2: month into the season when I rode up and bet
Speaker 2: on them. Now they're plus seven hundred. I can't take
Speaker 2: plus seven hundred. I can't take that number on the
Speaker 2: Utah Jazz. For me to take it to Jazz right now,
Speaker 2: they probably have to be double that number. They'd have
Speaker 2: to be twelve or fourteen hundred for me to be interested,
Speaker 2: and they're not there right now. You could get the
Speaker 2: Milwaukee Bucks in some places at eight nine hundred, maybe
Speaker 2: even like a thousand, depending on where you're looking.
Speaker 1: Well, the Bucks right now plus seven to fifties consensus number,
Speaker 1: but I'm seeing eight. I'm seeing seven fifties. That's about
Speaker 1: where you're at right now for the most of the spots.
Speaker 1: But now, do you think to a certain degree too,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're both old enough to remember last year
Speaker 1: when the Bucks were rolling and then COVID hit and
Speaker 1: then the bubble did not treat them kindly. It was
Speaker 1: not a good look for them. So do you think
Speaker 1: that this Bucks team has shown you that they've kind
Speaker 1: of either learned from this or are motivated to kind
Speaker 1: of get passed last year? Because last year was a
Speaker 1: huge disappointment for that.
Speaker 2: So here's one of my favorite stats to look at.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite stats to look at is the
Speaker 2: point differential that a team has, right, because what it
Speaker 2: does is it looks at what their offensive efficiency number
Speaker 2: is per one hundred possessions and their defensive efficiency per
Speaker 2: one hundred possessions. So games are played at different paces,
Speaker 2: so sometimes there's one hundred and ten possessions in a game.
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's only ninety eight possessions in a game, but
Speaker 2: it's usually somewhere a little above one hundred. So the
Speaker 2: way you got to look at that is it doesn't
Speaker 2: matter who you're playing against when it comes to pace.
Speaker 2: If you're the team that's doing the most offensively per
Speaker 2: one hundred and stopping the other team the most defensively,
Speaker 2: you're going to be in a lot of games. And
Speaker 2: there are usually three to five teams every year that
Speaker 2: are in the top ten in both offensive efficiency and
Speaker 2: defensive efficiency. And these are teams that usually wind up
Speaker 2: making deep runs. And this is the reason why I
Speaker 2: liked the Miami Heat last year because last year the
Speaker 2: Miami Heat were a top ten team in offensive efficiency
Speaker 2: and a top ten team in defensive efficiency. The Milwaukee
Speaker 2: Bucks were two, and they lost to the Miami Heat,
Speaker 2: another team who was what I call a due qualifier,
Speaker 2: and both of those things. The other team that was
Speaker 2: a due qualifier was the Boston Celtics, who was one
Speaker 2: of the other teams that was on the road for
Speaker 2: those teams to get to the finals. The Lakers weren't
Speaker 2: last year, but they were eleventh overall in scoring, so
Speaker 2: they were like literally right on the outskirts of it.
Speaker 2: And they were one of the top defensive teams, so
Speaker 2: you can kind of make a little bit of an
Speaker 2: exception for them. But the teams that tend to make
Speaker 2: the deepest runs are usually the ones that are good
Speaker 2: on offense and good on defense. The Milwaukee Bucks this
Speaker 2: year are one of those teams that's a due qualifier.
Speaker 2: Top ten on defense, top ten on offense. Right now,
Speaker 2: I think there's Eavington's fifth or fifth and seventh somewhere
Speaker 2: in there. But these are the teams that I have
Speaker 2: the most faith in because they can beat you multiple ways.
Speaker 2: They can go out and shut you down, hold you
Speaker 2: to ninety five points, and even have a bad shooting
Speaker 2: game and win one oh one to ninety five. They're
Speaker 2: also the team that can get in attract, meet with you,
Speaker 2: and beat you one twenty five to one to fifteen,
Speaker 2: and those are the kind of teams that usually make
Speaker 2: the deep runs. Milwaukee being one of those teams this year.
Speaker 2: Now could some of the other teams, like the Mets
Speaker 2: play no defense whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Obviously doesn't hurt him in the regular season because they
Speaker 3: have so much offense and they are the most efficient
Speaker 3: or one of the most efficient offenses in the league,
Speaker 3: but in a playoffs that comes back to haunt you
Speaker 3: if you're not playing any defense.
Speaker 2: So there are chinks in that armor that you can
Speaker 2: go against. The Sixers are the opposite great defensively. Offensively though,
Speaker 2: they suck really outside of like Joelle and b dominating
Speaker 2: and putting up forty point games. Like Ben Simmons is
Speaker 2: a very good facilitator, but he's not a great scorer.
Speaker 2: You know, Tobias Harris is decent. And then you're talking
Speaker 2: about guys like Seth Curry and Shape Milton and you know,
Speaker 2: and I mean they're in there to like hit some
Speaker 2: shots and feed some of these big guys, but they
Speaker 2: don't have the offensive power that they can win those
Speaker 2: games when you know their defense isn't shutting teams down.
Speaker 2: Milwaukee is the team that could play either one of
Speaker 2: those two ways and still wind up winning games. So
Speaker 2: that's why to me, that's the team that has the
Speaker 2: most value out of all these teams here.
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