WEBVTT - NBA Awards and Playoff Odds (Ep. 85)

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to place your bets. Let's talk to the pros.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in, everybody to betting pros, and it's time to

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little NBA. It's me Joey p Joe piez Apia.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show everybody. We've got a great one

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<v Speaker 1>for you today. One of my boys, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey guys who I've done probably thousands of shows with

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<v Speaker 1>now over the last five plus years of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of my good friends. But he's also one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best folks in terms of NBA to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to out there on the landscape, whether it be DFS,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it be wagering, and today, of course we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to him about wagering. He's the head of betting content

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<v Speaker 1>over at Fade the Noise and that's FTN for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you cool kids. And as you could see here

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<v Speaker 1>a product placement all the time. But he is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite dudes. He's my Pizon. He's Benny Richardi. Everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the show. Benny, how you doing brother.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a hell of an intro right there. Bro sif

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<v Speaker 2>I love it right there? But yeah, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>know how it is when you start getting old, John,

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<v Speaker 2>companies that I do a show for, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>companies that I hop on for. I'm waiting for my

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<v Speaker 2>betting Pro T shirt right now, so this right now

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<v Speaker 2>that I need one of those, because summer's coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>I need some new T shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know I don't even have one yet. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't know how you could get one Before

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<v Speaker 1>but you're right, you are the swag king. There's no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt about that. Absolutely that is the case. And today

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do with Benny's We're gonna go through some

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<v Speaker 1>NBA stuff. We're getting towards the playoffs now, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go through some of the bets for some of

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<v Speaker 1>the awards, what's out there, what's even worth looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also going to talk about some of the conferences,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the standings where we're at right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little look into the playoffs, see what's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>what Benny likes as we're kind of heading closer and

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<v Speaker 1>closer to that, and look, it's it's been a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>dark good NBA season. I would say, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of people were kind of skeptical going

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<v Speaker 1>in once again, and I feel like, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>further we get down here, the more we're getting to

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<v Speaker 1>more of a sense of normalcy with things, which is great.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen what's happened last year with the NFL and

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<v Speaker 1>then obviously with Major League Baseball this year with crowds

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<v Speaker 1>being back. So you know, let's start with some of

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<v Speaker 1>the awards, Benny. Let's start with MVP, which Nikola Djokic

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<v Speaker 1>is at minus four hundred on consensus Betting Pros right now. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>Betting Pros takes the consensus from all the different houses

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<v Speaker 1>kind of compiles them into one number. After that, you

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<v Speaker 1>got Joel Embiid at plus three fifty and Steph Curry

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<v Speaker 1>at plus fourteen hundred. So I'm just gonna be simple

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<v Speaker 1>with this. Is this just a foregone conclusion?

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<v Speaker 2>Here?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this something you just completely stay away from or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, because the odds minus four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>laying four to win one hundred seems kind of crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Do you think there's any chance that embiid

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<v Speaker 1>or anybody else sneaks in this conversation?

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<v Speaker 2>So? Do I think Djokis is the favorite right now

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<v Speaker 2>to win it? Absolutely? Do I think he should be

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<v Speaker 2>minus four hundred? No, I don't. I would not lay

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<v Speaker 2>money on him at minus four hundred right now. Basically

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<v Speaker 2>at minus four hundred, you're saying he has an eighty

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<v Speaker 2>percent chance of winning this award right now, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's above fifty percent, but I wouldn't go as

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<v Speaker 2>high as eighty. And like I said, he is probably

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<v Speaker 2>the guy who's most likely to win, But do you

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<v Speaker 2>really want to lay one hundred dollars to win twenty five? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>That's basically what you're looking at here at minus four hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Steph Curry is worth a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a gamble here because of all these other guys, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the one. Him and Embiide have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a chance here. Now. The reason why I say, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna make a little gamble here, I'd rather do

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<v Speaker 2>Steph Curry is because you're getting Steph Curry at like

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<v Speaker 2>plus what did you say plus fourteen hundred was the

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna make a wager, that's probably the better

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<v Speaker 2>way to go on it right now. Now again, do

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<v Speaker 2>I think Steph Curry is gonna win it? No, I

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<v Speaker 2>do think Nankolea Jokic is gonna win it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that at twenty to one on Steph Curry, or

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<v Speaker 2>even fifteen to one on Steph Curry, that's given him

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<v Speaker 2>like a five or six percent chance of winning this award.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think he's probably closer to maybe ten percent

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<v Speaker 2>here because if you look at the numbers this year,

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<v Speaker 2>he's the guy. I mean, it depends what do you

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<v Speaker 2>count as what makes a guy the most valuable to

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<v Speaker 2>his team, Because to me, one of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>I look at is the expected win total that that

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<v Speaker 2>player creates for his team. So basically, they look at

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<v Speaker 2>the stats and they say, a guy like this, if

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<v Speaker 2>you put him off this team and put him on

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<v Speaker 2>another team, this is the number of expected wins a

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<v Speaker 2>guy with these stats would have. You know, Steph Curry

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<v Speaker 2>is thirty three. He's leading the league. So by that metric,

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<v Speaker 2>he is the most valuable player in the league to

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<v Speaker 2>his team. His team would be thirty three depending on

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<v Speaker 2>who the substitution is, but if you substitute him with

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<v Speaker 2>the league average player, they would be thirty three games

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<v Speaker 2>worse off than they are with Steph Curry. Nobody else's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, even close to that number. Joelle Embiid, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>is at thirty one, So he's another guy that's like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in that conversation. But Steph has the best

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<v Speaker 2>number in the league overall. There. But again, you and

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<v Speaker 2>I know Joe that a lot of these things aren't

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<v Speaker 2>based on stats, right these are they're voted on by

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Writers, their media awards, That's what they are. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the.

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<v Speaker 2>The things that goes along with that is they usually

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<v Speaker 2>give it to a guy who's on the team that's

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<v Speaker 2>winning a lot of games. And you know, there are

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<v Speaker 2>other guys who have had better stats than Djokich has

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<v Speaker 2>this season, but he's the guy that's avoided being hurt. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if Joel Embiid didn't get hurt, there's a good chance

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<v Speaker 2>Joel Embiid could be the guy who is the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the one in the clubhouse leader right now. If Lebron

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get hurt. Lebron was having some really good numbers

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<v Speaker 2>on both ends of the floor this year, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>guy that you could be there. You know, Giannis is

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<v Speaker 2>not great on the offensive end, but he's still a

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<v Speaker 2>well above average offensive player, and he's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>elite defensive players in the league, like a top five

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<v Speaker 2>guy when it comes to you know, points safe per

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred possessions. So a lot of these guys had

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<v Speaker 2>a chance, but a lot of these guys also miss

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<v Speaker 2>time right now. So really, the guy who's been consistent

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<v Speaker 2>and who has played even above expectations a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>this year and whose team is winning games right now

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<v Speaker 2>is Nicola Jocis, which is why he is the clubhouse leader.

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<v Speaker 2>But of all the ones we're gonna talk about, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a couple other clubhouse leaders that I'd be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you could put money on him at that price if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to, Jokis is the one that I would

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<v Speaker 2>not be betting on here. This is a guy with

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<v Speaker 2>only twelve expected wins above you know what he would

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<v Speaker 2>normally gap for a replacement player here. Not that that's

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<v Speaker 2>a bad number either, that's still a good number, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's just if not Steph Curry's thirty three, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>joell In BEA's thirty one, Like if that's how we're

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<v Speaker 2>measuring someone's worse to a team. He's really not the

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<v Speaker 2>guy who has meant the most to his team this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, I look across the board and only

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<v Speaker 1>the lowest number I see here is minus three fifty

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<v Speaker 1>seven over at bet MGM for Djokich. And that still

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<v Speaker 1>seems like, you know, a hard pass there. And I

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<v Speaker 1>like the case that you're making for Curry, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, in sense of like media award right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like the grounds well is going there. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're right. It definitely feels as though it, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't be so much of a favorite right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like it should be a little bit tighter.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're talking betting numbers right now, So it's

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<v Speaker 2>not it's not that I'm saying Nicola Jokis probably isn't

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<v Speaker 2>gonna win. I just don't think that he should be

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<v Speaker 2>eighty percent to win. If you told me he was

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<v Speaker 2>even money right now, I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>bet on him, and even money. You told me he

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<v Speaker 2>was even maybe minus one p fifty minus two hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>so like sixty sixty six percent, I'd probably be like

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Yeah, he's still the guy we should be

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<v Speaker 2>putting money on. And minus four hundred though there's no

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<v Speaker 2>value there, there's I'll give you something that's a bigger

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<v Speaker 2>lock that we're gonna talk about in a little in

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<v Speaker 2>a minute. That's a better number than minus four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>that we should be betting on if we're gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, let's move on to the next war here,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Rookie of the Year, because we've got LaMelo

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<v Speaker 1>Ball at minus three h five and Anthony Edwards at

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<v Speaker 1>plus two hundred. Again, those are the consensus numbers, and

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<v Speaker 1>you go to bettingpros dot com to see all these

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<v Speaker 1>consensus numbers and you can go pick and choose if

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<v Speaker 1>you do like a wager, Well, where can I get

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<v Speaker 1>the best odds? So is this particularly one that you've

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<v Speaker 1>got your eye on. Ball's played very well obviously this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Edwards now slouch either, But right now it's telling you

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<v Speaker 1>that Ball is a clear favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean to be honest, it's not particularly close

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<v Speaker 2>between the two of them. On the floor of this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Edwards had a couple of good games, he's a

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<v Speaker 2>good scorer, but LaMelo Ball is the much better player,

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<v Speaker 2>is the much better all around player, and is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be the much better NBA player as well long term here.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus he has the name recognition that is gonna help

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<v Speaker 2>him out anyway. Even though Anthony Edwards was the first pick,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest with you, Joe, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>give a shout out here to an honorable mention guy

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<v Speaker 2>that I like even better than Anthony Edwards. I would

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<v Speaker 2>rather vote for Tyrese Haliburton that I would for Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Edwards this year. I think he's had a better overall season.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now with the Aaron Fox out on the COVID protocol,

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting a chance to kind of run the team,

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<v Speaker 2>putting up like double double numbers and points and assist

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<v Speaker 2>every night. To me, I always thought he had a

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<v Speaker 2>better season than Anthony Edwards did. Again, Anthony Edwards had

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<v Speaker 2>such a bad start to the year and his team

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<v Speaker 2>was so bad too. It's not like, you know, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>there's a number one overall pick like Lebron comes in

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, changes his team's fortune in one season.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was a situation like that, I'd be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to give it to Anthony Edwards. But I

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't think he's done enough to even I

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<v Speaker 2>even told people that I don't know if I would

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<v Speaker 2>want to bet on him. Even if LaMelo Ball was

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<v Speaker 2>like out for the season and never came back, I

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<v Speaker 2>still thought LaMelo Ball missing the last couple, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple weeks of the season, already had this

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<v Speaker 2>award locked up because he was by far the best

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<v Speaker 2>rookie out there. He's still the guy. And again, you

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<v Speaker 2>could take Jokitch at minus four hundred, or you could

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<v Speaker 2>take LaMelo Ball here at like minus three zho five

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<v Speaker 2>minus three zero two. Those numbers are just better. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna put money on something, put it on

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<v Speaker 2>where you're gonna get the better return. I'd rather be

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<v Speaker 2>here on LaMelo.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's move on to the next one here,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I mean, look, Julius Randall's had a great

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<v Speaker 1>season here for the Knicks, and the Knicks really showed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of life here down the stretch, and they

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<v Speaker 1>showed a lot of life early on the season two,

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<v Speaker 1>and they got people kind of exciting, and then of

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<v Speaker 1>course they did that Nix lull, which you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Knicks are like, well, okay, I guess we've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>righted the ship and realized who we are again. But

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<v Speaker 1>then again it kind of peaked as we're getting closer

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<v Speaker 1>to the end of the season. So Randall right now

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<v Speaker 1>is at minus five hundred for this award, Jeremy Grant,

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<v Speaker 1>Is it plus four hundred? Is this another one where

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a lock and you walk away because it

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean there's really no there's no argument that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's no argument there. Yeah, I mean there was there

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<v Speaker 2>was a point in the season where there were like

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<v Speaker 2>three or four guys in the entire NBA who were

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<v Speaker 2>leading their team in points, rebounds on the sist and

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<v Speaker 2>Julius Randall was one of them. The other ones were

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<v Speaker 2>like Luca, Luca Jihni MVP guys. Right, yeah, exactly, Like

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in that company, that's that's the company that

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<v Speaker 2>you're in. He has been a godsend for the Knicks

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<v Speaker 2>this year. He's been basically their entire offense because that's

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<v Speaker 2>really what that team struggles with on the offensive side,

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<v Speaker 2>and his defense has been a little bit better too.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's always been known as a guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>been kind of a dog on defense, but the Knicks

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<v Speaker 2>have one of the top defenses in the league this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're giving up the third fewest points per

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred possessions right now. And you know what, Randall's

0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.400
<v Speaker 2>numbers look better than they have. So coming to the

0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Knicks has been great for him. He's played as well

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<v Speaker 2>as anybody could this year. You know, he's had triple

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<v Speaker 2>doubles at some points this season. He's had a whole

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of games with double digit assists that we made

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of money on betting on over at FTN.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like my favorite bet this year. Everybody over there

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<v Speaker 2>will be like, oh, you're playing Julius Randall assist again. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it keeps getting it. You know, the guy's gonna keep

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<v Speaker 2>going over to number. We're gonna keep playing it. So

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<v Speaker 2>I love Julius Randall. He's made me a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>money this year. I'm just not willing to invest anymore

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<v Speaker 2>of that. At minus five hundred er, I mean, do

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a lock? Yeah, you can get like

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen seventeen cents on the dollar for every dollar you

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<v Speaker 2>put in there. I mean, if you really don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>have any other use for that money. Between now and

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the season the next three weeks. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean throw it in there, but you're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get You're not gonna get that great of a return.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think it's pretty much a lock, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talk about Defensive Player of the Year. Rudy

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<v Speaker 1>Gobert in minus three thirty five is like it says

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<v Speaker 1>this number. Ben sim is at plus two thirty a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit tighter, but again clear favorite here with Gobert

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<v Speaker 1>and Miles Turner is kind of pulling up the rear

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<v Speaker 1>a plus seven. So again, it's very heavy favorites here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a matter of are we interested in the

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<v Speaker 1>lock favorite here? And Gobert is that lock favorite When

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Defensive Player of the year feels like

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<v Speaker 1>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it is because Utah has been the

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<v Speaker 2>best team in the NBA this year. And that's not hyperbole.

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<v Speaker 2>That's they have the highest point differential per one hundred possessions.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're like top five offensive production per one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred offensive efficiency. They're number one I think right now

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<v Speaker 2>currently on defensive efficiency as well. So I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a legit team right there, but they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a legit superstar who's gonna win the MVP, Like Donovan

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<v Speaker 2>Mitchell's their superstar. He's not gonna be an MVP candidate.

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<v Speaker 2>The writers aren't going to allow this team to have

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<v Speaker 2>this good of a season and not have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of awards coming their way. And listen, Rudy

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<v Speaker 2>Gobert is a deserving favorite for this too. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want you to think that he's not. Like when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at defensive numbers, there points per one hundred possessions,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the stat that everybody uses, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the main one for defense because it kind of encompasses everything. There,

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<v Speaker 2>Rudy Gobert is leading the league. He is worth eleven

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<v Speaker 2>and a half points to a team per one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>possessions on the defensive side. Without Rudy Gobert, you would

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<v Speaker 2>expect that team to score eleven, you know, to have

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<v Speaker 2>eleven more points per game scored. Upon him, There's only

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<v Speaker 2>two guys that are over ten. It's him and teammate

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Connolly. And you know, like I said, by far,

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<v Speaker 2>statistically you can make the case that he is head

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<v Speaker 2>and shoulders above everybody else in the league. So I

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<v Speaker 2>understand the three thirty five what I don't understand is

0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.000
<v Speaker 2>the guys that are behind them. Ben Simmons, who I

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<v Speaker 2>love and I love Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the few guys in the NBA that you can

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<v Speaker 2>legitimately put on any player one through five, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be the opposing center, of the opposing point guard, or

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<v Speaker 2>anything in between, and he could guard that guy. So

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<v Speaker 2>he is the arguably the most versatile defender in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great, but his numbers aren't jumping off the

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<v Speaker 2>page as like, Oh, this guy deserves to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the defensive player of the Year. Without him, his team's

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<v Speaker 2>defense wouldn't be bad. They're a very good defensive team

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<v Speaker 2>and they've been a very good defensive team even in

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<v Speaker 2>games that Ben Simmons didn't play. So is he a

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<v Speaker 2>great defensive player? Absolutely? Is he a positives to them

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<v Speaker 2>on defense? Yes? Does he completely change a game like

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<v Speaker 2>Rudy Gobert does And the answer to that is no.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will do this. And Miles Turner. I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea why that Miles Turner is on this list.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes no sense to me that he is the

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<v Speaker 2>third one on this list whatsoever. But I need to

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<v Speaker 2>I want to throw the third guys in there, the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that should be on this list. Mike Connelly should

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<v Speaker 2>be on this list because, like I said, second best

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<v Speaker 2>defensive number there, one of the best defensive point guards

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<v Speaker 2>in the game has been for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he get enough credit? Really? Hope he's First Team

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<v Speaker 2>All Defense this year. You know, Giannis every year deserves

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<v Speaker 2>to be there, and you can say what you want

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<v Speaker 2>about him. The guy's an absolute beast, very much like

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<v Speaker 2>Ben Simmons, can guard just about anybody on the floor

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<v Speaker 2>at any time. He's long, he rebounds, there's a ton

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<v Speaker 2>for your defense right there. And then the other guy

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<v Speaker 2>who's unsung and people don't consider him a great defensive player,

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<v Speaker 2>but his defensive numbers have been amazing this year has

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<v Speaker 2>been Clint Capella. Clint Capella is a big reason why

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<v Speaker 2>the Atlanta Hawk games don't end up one fifty, one

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<v Speaker 2>forty every single night. They still get there every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while and a bunch of one twenties and

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<v Speaker 2>one thirties, But Clint Coppella deserves a lot more credit

0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:22.040
<v Speaker 2>than he's getting on defense as well. So those should

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<v Speaker 2>be the names behind Rudy Gobert. But Unfortunately, Rudy Gobert

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<v Speaker 2>should win this at three thirty five. If you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like the LaMelo play, this is the other place I

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<v Speaker 2>put my money before I put it on joking.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in some spots like on FanDuel, actually though the

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<v Speaker 1>odds are vastly different, but again, this is the consensus

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<v Speaker 1>number where you know, it's just I also feel like

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<v Speaker 1>you know with the NBA too, there's there's an easier,

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<v Speaker 1>clearer narrative with a lot of these players too, that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of builds over time and then it gets kind

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<v Speaker 1>of locked in, and it's very different than the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very because the NFL is very moving, Like

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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning of the year, it was very Russell Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it gets sort of to turn to Kyler

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<v Speaker 1>Murray for a little bit in that discussion, and then that

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<v Speaker 1>went away and Ebsen flows and eventually it's Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>and Josh Allen kind of all on the peripheral. But

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<v Speaker 1>with the NBA, I feel like some of these awards

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<v Speaker 1>they just get locked in and then the narrative drives

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<v Speaker 1>itself and then it makes it very difficult by this

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<v Speaker 1>time of the season to really get any sort of value.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think we can find some value here with

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<v Speaker 1>some of these wagers. So let's with just a few

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<v Speaker 1>games left here, let's talk about the Atlantic Division winner.

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<v Speaker 1>We got the Sixers right now, the consensus number to

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<v Speaker 1>win the Atlantic Division minus won thirty nine and the

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<v Speaker 1>Nets at even money. So looking at those two right now,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you put your money, if anywhere, on one

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<v Speaker 1>of these two teams?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I would rather have my money on the

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<v Speaker 2>Nets here, and there's two reasons why. So after last

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<v Speaker 2>night's game, the Sixers are forty and twenty one. The

0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.120
<v Speaker 2>Nets are forty one and twenty. They're playing seventy two

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<v Speaker 2>games this year, so they both have eleven games left.

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<v Speaker 2>When you break down those numbers and you put them

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<v Speaker 2>into odds and even money, it says that the Nets

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<v Speaker 2>have a fifty percent chance of winning the division, and

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<v Speaker 2>minus one thirty nine, you're giving the seventy six Ers

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<v Speaker 2>a fifty eight percent chance to win the division. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a good chance that these two teams both go

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, seven and four or eight and three

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<v Speaker 2>three about the end of the season, because based on

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<v Speaker 2>their win percentages this year, that's what you would expect

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<v Speaker 2>them to win about two thirds of the remaining games

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<v Speaker 2>that they have, which with eleven games means they're both

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<v Speaker 2>gonna wind up with six or seven wins here. And

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<v Speaker 2>the Nets already have one game up on the Philadelphia

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<v Speaker 2>seventy six ers, so you know, they could basically match

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<v Speaker 2>the seventy six ers record and still wind up winning

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<v Speaker 2>the division, whereas the Sixers are gonna have to hope

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<v Speaker 2>that the Nets lose a couple of games here. Now, again,

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<v Speaker 2>are the Nets as good without James Harden and without

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<v Speaker 2>the Marcus Aldridge, which is something else we'll talk about

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<v Speaker 2>later when we talk about championship odds, No, they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>But Kevin Durantz back, he's really really good. Kyrie Irving's

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<v Speaker 2>still there. He's really really good, really good. Joe Harris

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<v Speaker 2>is a great shooter who's going to stand in the

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<v Speaker 2>corner and stretch defenses, and that's what every team wants

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<v Speaker 2>right now. So the Nets still have enough pieces where

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<v Speaker 2>they can go six and five worst case, seven and four,

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<v Speaker 2>eight and three best case, and if they do the

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<v Speaker 2>eight and three or the seven and four, it's still

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<v Speaker 2>their division. So if you're gonna give me even money

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<v Speaker 2>on them, where I gotta lay minus one thirty nine

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<v Speaker 2>on the Sixers, who are a game back with eleven

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<v Speaker 2>games to go. You know, I like the Horsetts and

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<v Speaker 2>the lead in the race, Joe, I'm not taking a

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<v Speaker 2>one that's behind.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I agree with you. I would be

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<v Speaker 1>on the net side of things as well. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to the Southeast Division here and we have the Hawks

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<v Speaker 1>consensus number which is pretty high mayas four hundred and

0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.240
<v Speaker 1>the Heat of plus two seventy five. But again, only

0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.320
<v Speaker 1>two games separate them. So I guess here's my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Can the Heat make a late run here with the

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<v Speaker 1>way the schedule looks for them and overtake the Hawks

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<v Speaker 1>or it's just just the Hawks right now playing better basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean, this really comes down to a numbers game,

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<v Speaker 2>right Like, these two teams are at sixty two already,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're down to ten games each. So what you

0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:34.879
<v Speaker 2>basically have to hope for if you're in Miami is

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<v Speaker 2>Miami's got to go nuts right now. They got to

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<v Speaker 2>go like nine and one or eight and two, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they still have to hope that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Hawks go like five and five over the last ten

0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.439
<v Speaker 2>games here in order for them to get there. So

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<v Speaker 2>what you're really betting on is two different things happening.

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<v Speaker 2>You're betting on Miami going on a run right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, you know, I'm not gonna say unprecedented, But

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<v Speaker 2>then you also have to hope that Atlanta forgets how

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<v Speaker 2>to play basketball, or that they get a couple injuries

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<v Speaker 2>or something where you know they're gonna lose at least two,

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<v Speaker 2>if not three, of those. They're gonna have to pick

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<v Speaker 2>up three games in the last ten games of the

0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.440
<v Speaker 2>season in order to win this conference. It's not again,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not out of the question, but you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very hard to do. You're gonna need the Hawks to

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<v Speaker 2>go five and five, and you're gonna have to go

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<v Speaker 2>nine and one. Are You're gonna need the Hawks to

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<v Speaker 2>go four and six, which is completely out of character

0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.440
<v Speaker 2>for them, and you're still gonna have to go seven

0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:24.960
<v Speaker 2>and three just to get that done. So there aren't

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of scenarios that really play out in Miami's

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<v Speaker 2>favor here. And I know everybody loves Miami because they

0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.200
<v Speaker 2>made that big run last year, but this team has

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<v Speaker 2>not played anywhere near the way they played in the

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<v Speaker 2>bubble last year. The defensive numbers are still pretty good,

0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:39.439
<v Speaker 2>but the offensive numbers are way below what they did

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<v Speaker 2>when they went on that run. And that's really been

0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.680
<v Speaker 2>a difference for them this year. They've they have burned

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<v Speaker 2>more money for betters this year than a lot of

0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.840
<v Speaker 2>other teams. I think they've only had like a maybe

0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:50.639
<v Speaker 2>like a forty five percent cover percentage this year because

0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:52.639
<v Speaker 2>they've basically been over bet all season.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a staggering number. Their Pacific Division winner right now,

0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the Clippers are the consensus favorite minus one thirty nine

0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.720
<v Speaker 1>with the Suns. Even your thoughts on this division because

0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Sons have played very well this year, we all know that.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think about the Clippers and Suns?

0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you think this is a foregone conclusion or do

0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.399
<v Speaker 1>you think kind of like the last even you like

0:19:10.440 --> 0:19:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the Suns.

0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing here is that there are nine games

0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.280
<v Speaker 2>left for the Clippers, eleven games left for the Suns,

0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.240
<v Speaker 2>and they're even in the win column right now. So

0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:23.520
<v Speaker 2>the Clippers basically are in the same kind of situation

0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:25.879
<v Speaker 2>where they're gonna have to go eight and one or

0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.159
<v Speaker 2>seven and two, and they're gonna have to hope that

0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.720
<v Speaker 2>the Suns just play below sixty six percent, which is

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<v Speaker 2>basically what the Suns have won their games at so

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<v Speaker 2>far this year. The Suns are gonna need to go

0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.160
<v Speaker 2>like six and five through that last eleven, and they're

0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:40.000
<v Speaker 2>still gonna need like a like I said, like an

0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.040
<v Speaker 2>eight and one from the Clippers in order to catch them.

0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:45.680
<v Speaker 2>So this is different than the seventy six ers and

0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.840
<v Speaker 2>the Nets because the seventy six ers and the Nets

0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:50.000
<v Speaker 2>have the same amount of games to play. Right in

0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:52.719
<v Speaker 2>this situation, the Clippers have two less games to play,

0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:56.200
<v Speaker 2>and the odds are actually even the Clippers better. I'm

0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.439
<v Speaker 2>taking the Suns here. You're giving me eleven games with

0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the same amount of wins, and and all I gotta

0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.560
<v Speaker 2>do is match the number of wins that the Clippers

0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.000
<v Speaker 2>get in order to win. This one is the Phoenix

0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Suns at even money. I like this even more than

0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:07.919
<v Speaker 2>I like the Nets and even money.

0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>There you go. So the Suns and the Nets even

0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.359
<v Speaker 1>money consensus, look like they have a real shot to

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<v Speaker 1>make some returns. Let's talk a little bit about the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Western and Eastern Conference winners, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>get your thoughts of the championship here. If you've got

0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:25.400
<v Speaker 1>any early favorites in your mind Western Conference winner. Right now,

0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you've got the Lakers at plus one seventy five, the

0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Clippers at two sixty. Then you've got the Jazz at

0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.920
<v Speaker 1>three ten. Now, you know, I love the way the

0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.160
<v Speaker 1>Jazz have played all year. They've been my favorite team

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.199
<v Speaker 1>to watch, no doubt, from the day one of the

0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.200
<v Speaker 1>season until now. And it's a different brand of basketball.

0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>It's more of a throwback brand of basketball. They have

0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.399
<v Speaker 1>ball movements there, the defense is there, it's just different.

0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 1>It's it's something I enjoy watching. The question is when

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.280
<v Speaker 1>you start matching up against teams with enormous star power,

0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.240
<v Speaker 1>what happens? Then? You know, in the short series, can

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.240
<v Speaker 1>this brand of basketball win out? Because look, it's happened

0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.159
<v Speaker 1>in the past. I think about that run that the

0:20:59.640 --> 0:21:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Piss had years ago too, where it was not really

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<v Speaker 1>the Ben Wallace years or it wasn't like that one

0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:07.680
<v Speaker 1>go to star guy, but they were able to make

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the system work. A very physical team there too, play

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:13.200
<v Speaker 1>good defense. But can the Jazz play the style of

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<v Speaker 1>ball and win this conference or is it going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the Clippers or Lakers or maybe even somebody else?

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<v Speaker 1>In your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean short answer is no, the Jazz cannot

0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:23.160
<v Speaker 2>beat those teams if those guys are healthy and they

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.560
<v Speaker 2>have all their star power there. That what makes the

0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Jazz so good is they're a very deep team, and

0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 2>like you said, they played really good defense in a

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:33.040
<v Speaker 2>half court and they move the ball and they do

0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:35.600
<v Speaker 2>all that stuff, and that stuff works great during the

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.720
<v Speaker 2>regular season when teams are playing you know, guys eight, nine,

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.399
<v Speaker 2>ten in their rotation, and guys one through five are

0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:45.440
<v Speaker 2>only playing thirty two or thirty four minutes a game,

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 2>and the playoffs, guys one through five are playing forty

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 2>minutes a game. So yeah, that ball movement and stuff

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.240
<v Speaker 2>is great, but it doesn't work as well when it's

0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Kawhi Leonard and Paul George and all the studs on

0:21:56.040 --> 0:21:58.480
<v Speaker 2>the other team on the floor for forty minutes. And

0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:00.960
<v Speaker 2>your depth is great too. It's nice to have depth

0:22:00.960 --> 0:22:03.320
<v Speaker 2>when you get in the playoffs, but when you get

0:22:03.359 --> 0:22:05.280
<v Speaker 2>in the playoffs, it's more about your starters because your

0:22:05.280 --> 0:22:07.920
<v Speaker 2>starters are playing extra minutes. So if the other team's

0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:10.240
<v Speaker 2>starters are better than yours, then they're going to be

0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.320
<v Speaker 2>on the floor at a disadvantage for a longer period

0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:14.359
<v Speaker 2>of time than they are in a regular season. And

0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:16.840
<v Speaker 2>it happens every year. We watch these teams that come

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.359
<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere and be like, oh man, we didn't

0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.280
<v Speaker 2>think they were going to be there, and oh man,

0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.520
<v Speaker 2>like the Lakers are sneaking in as like a five seed,

0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Well they're seeking is a five seat because le Brown's

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 2>have played in a month and Anthony Davis took like

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 2>two months off because he had some other injury as well.

0:22:30.240 --> 0:22:33.440
<v Speaker 2>But when those guys are healthy, you're not beating that team.

0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:35.960
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing is like everybody's looking right now

0:22:35.960 --> 0:22:37.679
<v Speaker 2>and saying like, oh, well, maybe the Jazz can make

0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:39.880
<v Speaker 2>a run, Maybe the Jazz can do this. I've been

0:22:39.920 --> 0:22:41.920
<v Speaker 2>like you, Joe, I've been higher on the Jazz all year.

0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:43.880
<v Speaker 2>We've been betting them all year, We've been making money

0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 2>on them all year. Other people haven't believed in them

0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.840
<v Speaker 2>all year. But when it comes to the playoff time,

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:50.760
<v Speaker 2>you do not want to bet on this team. And

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:53.400
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to looking at the Western Conference Finals,

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 2>the fact that their number is only thirty or forty

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.560
<v Speaker 2>basis points off of a team like the Clippers, or

0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:00.560
<v Speaker 2>only one hundred basis points of way from a team

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:03.640
<v Speaker 2>like the Lakers is just ridiculous. The Lakers and the Clippers'

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:06.639
<v Speaker 2>chances of winning this conference are so much better than

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 2>the chances that the Utah Jazz has because the Jazz

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:11.120
<v Speaker 2>has to beat not one, but both of those teams

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:12.760
<v Speaker 2>to get there, and I don't see them doing I

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:15.120
<v Speaker 2>don't see them beating either of those teams. So at

0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:16.679
<v Speaker 2>some point they're gonna have to play one of them

0:23:16.720 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 2>and they're gonna wind up losing. If you told me

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:20.800
<v Speaker 2>we can get the Jazz at like plus seven hundred

0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:23.200
<v Speaker 2>or plus eight hundred, I'd be like, okay, fine. At

0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.080
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the season, they were plus thirty six.

0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I bet them at plus twenty four about a month

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:29.879
<v Speaker 2>into the season, right when they started going on that

0:23:29.960 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 2>first run of like nine or ten wins in a row.

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Now that number is down to what is that number

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.159
<v Speaker 2>down to with the Jazz like plus seven hundred to

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.040
<v Speaker 2>win the championship, and all these other numbers to win

0:23:40.080 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 2>the conference, to win the division are all derivatives of

0:23:42.640 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 2>the number to win a championship. So if we think

0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 2>that that number to win a championship at plus seven

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:49.119
<v Speaker 2>hundred is way too low, then you can't bet on

0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 2>this team to win the division or to win their conference,

0:23:52.080 --> 0:23:54.000
<v Speaker 2>because that number is gonna be way too low from

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:56.240
<v Speaker 2>what you should be getting it on. So for my money,

0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.399
<v Speaker 2>right now, the two best bets are still the Lakers

0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:00.679
<v Speaker 2>and the Clippers. If you're looking at take somebody to

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:02.040
<v Speaker 2>win this division, which.

0:24:01.800 --> 0:24:03.320
<v Speaker 1>One would you go with between the two if you

0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:03.959
<v Speaker 1>had a choice.

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 2>I mean, as long as Lebron is back in playing

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.080
<v Speaker 2>the answers to the Lakers, I mean it is like

0:24:08.160 --> 0:24:09.000
<v Speaker 2>until somebody.

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, because plus one seventy five is not terrible to

0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:12.679
<v Speaker 1>come out of the West. That's not a terrible number,

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 1>Like that's that's all right with considering Lebron and becoming

0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the star power. I mean, if everything had been clicking

0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and everyone's on the court in the last couple of weeks,

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I think people would look at this number very It

0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 1>might even be a minus consensus number right now, but

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:25.679
<v Speaker 1>it's not.

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Earlier in the year, this was closer to even money

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:31.600
<v Speaker 2>for them to win the last or plus one twenty

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 2>or something like that. Now it's plus one seventy five,

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 2>and again, they were plus two fifty to win a

0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 2>championship at the beginning of the season. Plus two seventy five,

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 2>it might have been like the best number you could

0:24:40.800 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 2>find on them. Now they're plus three fifty. And again

0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.639
<v Speaker 2>if the plus three fifty, if these other numbers are

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.520
<v Speaker 2>derivatives of that win a championship number, then if you

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 2>think that plus two three fifty is too high right now,

0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 2>then you got to think any of their other numbers

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 2>are a little too high right now. So I think

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.480
<v Speaker 2>the plus one seventy five for the Lakers probably a

0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.280
<v Speaker 2>little higher than it should be. That numbers should be

0:24:58.280 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 2>more like plus one fifty or below. So you're getting

0:25:00.720 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 2>some value out of that right now.

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's switch gears to the Eastern Conference, where

0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 1>we have the Nets at the top of the board

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.119
<v Speaker 1>of minus one twelve and the Bucks at three point fifty,

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 1>the Sixers at plus forty four hundred, so a four

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to forty Excuse me, So with the seventy six ers

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>at four forty do they become a trendy pick here

0:25:19.520 --> 0:25:21.959
<v Speaker 1>going in? It just kind of it. It feels like

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 1>when you're looking at the odds, you're looking at the board.

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:25.840
<v Speaker 1>If you are one of these people that really just

0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 1>does not believe in the super team of the Nets,

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>that the seventy six ers is the way to go

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 1>or is it Jannis in the bucks? Because I think

0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 1>last year's playoff run uninspiring. I feel like a little

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>bit kind of left a little bad taste in people's mouths.

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the money's going to go there.

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you think if the money's not going to the Nets,

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>it goes to the Sixers? And I guess the question

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:45.960
<v Speaker 1>is should it be? I mean, are the Nets the

0:25:45.960 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>foregone conclusion?

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.760
<v Speaker 2>So here's my problem with the Nets. I love the Nets.

0:25:50.800 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 2>And if you told me that James Harden was going

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.000
<v Speaker 2>to be healthy and Kevin Durant was going to be healthy,

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 2>and Kyrie Irving was going to be mentally healthy, and

0:25:57.400 --> 0:25:59.159
<v Speaker 2>all of those guys were going to be there and

0:25:59.200 --> 0:26:01.959
<v Speaker 2>ready and locked in for the run, then minus one

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 2>twelve or minus one fifteen, which is where you're seeing

0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:06.560
<v Speaker 2>it sometimes, is way too low a number, like they

0:26:06.560 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 2>would be the prohibitive favorite. But I don't know that

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Harden's gonna come back and be okay. You don't have

0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 2>the boost that they thought they were gonna get from

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:15.760
<v Speaker 2>having LaMarcus Aldridge in there, which I don't think people

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.959
<v Speaker 2>realize how big LaMarcus Aldridge news made me look at

0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.639
<v Speaker 2>these numbers and say these numbers are too low because

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:24.199
<v Speaker 2>adding him as your fourth option is just insane, Like

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.679
<v Speaker 2>it's it's almost not fair. It's a trade that they

0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:28.439
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't let me pull off if I was playing on

0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 2>PlayStation or something point in time. I mean, they got

0:26:31.920 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, they got him that was released. They picked

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>them up like that was a great pickup for them.

0:26:35.520 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 2>So him, you know, deciding to retire, which you know,

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:40.440
<v Speaker 2>no knock on him. I would have done the same

0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.600
<v Speaker 2>thing if it was my health, So I'm not knocking

0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.400
<v Speaker 2>him for it. But it definitely the numbers moved when

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>he signed, and when KD was on his way back,

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 2>and when Harden was still healthy at the time, and

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 2>all those guys are supposed to play together. But now

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Harden is out. Harden had a setback, which we don't

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:58.400
<v Speaker 2>know how long that's going to keep him out. LaMarcus

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Aldridge is out with the heart thing, and this number

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.640
<v Speaker 2>hasn't moved. So to me, this number is over bet

0:27:03.680 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 2>because at the very least, there should have been some

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of adjustment for Aldridge going down and Hardened being

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:11.119
<v Speaker 2>more of a question mark now than he was a

0:27:11.119 --> 0:27:13.440
<v Speaker 2>couple months ago. And we haven't had that. We haven't

0:27:13.480 --> 0:27:16.080
<v Speaker 2>had a big adjustment back in the other direction. So

0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 2>right now, the way I'm looking at it is you

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:19.840
<v Speaker 2>also got to think about all the injuries this team has.

0:27:19.920 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Joe like Kevin Durant could go down again. We've seen

0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 2>it multiple times. James Harden, maybe he doesn't come back.

0:27:26.119 --> 0:27:28.080
<v Speaker 2>And if that's the case, now you're going to war

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:31.280
<v Speaker 2>against the Bucks, and against the Toronto team that is

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>healthy now, and the seventy six Ers team and whoever else,

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 2>the Celtics who are starting to play a little better,

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 2>and all these other teams. You're going to war with

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.760
<v Speaker 2>just Kyrie Irving, not the big three of Kyrie, Harden

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 2>and Kevin Durant. So I don't think that laying more

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:47.879
<v Speaker 2>than even money on the Brooklyn Nets right now is

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.359
<v Speaker 2>the best way to go. I think the value actually

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.440
<v Speaker 2>comes from the other team. And I agree that everybody

0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>is talking about the seventy six Ers, which also makes

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.399
<v Speaker 2>them overvalued and over bet. The place I want to

0:27:58.440 --> 0:28:00.760
<v Speaker 2>go is actually in the Milwaukee box. You look at

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.880
<v Speaker 2>the Bucks. Yeah, you look at the stats for the Bucks.

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Their point differential is only behind I think they're actually

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.600
<v Speaker 2>ahead of the Phoenix Suns now they were trailing them

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.560
<v Speaker 2>most of the season. But the only team that's got

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.199
<v Speaker 2>a better point differential per one hundred possessions is the

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Utah Jazz. So the Milwaukee Bucks statistically are still the

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 2>second best team in the NBA at the current moment,

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:22.879
<v Speaker 2>and you're getting them at plus three fifty, whereas the Jazz,

0:28:22.920 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 2>even in the other conference, you're only getting at plus

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 2>three hundred. So I mean, I think it's an easier

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 2>path for them than it would be in the West.

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 2>And there are reasons to think that if Brooklyn's not

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent, Brooklyn could wind up losing to one

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:37.879
<v Speaker 2>of these teams that we're talking about here. And to me,

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee is still the best team in the East statistically,

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 2>even though, like you said, people are scared away from

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>them because they didn't play last year. But you know what,

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 2>this isn't last year. It's this year, So you can't

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 2>let that carry it over. There's still the statistically better

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 2>team and have the better odds of winning it, and

0:28:52.640 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>at plus three fifty, I think there's value.

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.120
<v Speaker 1>There now when you're looking at the championship. You know,

0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 1>before we get more of this knowledge and more of

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>this clarity. Is there a number you would want to

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>jump on for the championship? Right now? The Nets are

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.120
<v Speaker 1>plus two forty. Doesn't feel like it from what you're saying,

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 1>but maybe that changes because of the odds. We're talking

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 1>about two forty overall to buying in. Doesn't feel like

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you're getting there. You have the Lakers at plus three fifty,

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:15.280
<v Speaker 1>the Clippers at plus five hundred, the Jazz plus seven,

0:29:15.280 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>which is not a number. So I'm assuming you're going deeper.

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>You're looking for maybe the Bucks or somebody like that,

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>who in terms of that number very different. So when

0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you're looking at consensus, is that where you're going?

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Is it?

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Is it a Bucks number that really pops to you?

0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Because there's plus seven to fifty right after the Jazz,

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>that's the consensus number in some places, like you'd get

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>eight hundred I see in a lot of houses as well.

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:38.959
<v Speaker 1>When you're looking here, like Foxbeth has meant plus eight

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>hundred over on bettingpros dot com, is that where you'd

0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 1>be going?

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Alright? So, Joe, you and I have been doing this

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 2>a long.

0:29:44.240 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Time, right, very many years, my friend.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 2>All Right, does the regular season matter?

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:48.520
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>In the NBA?

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:52.040
<v Speaker 2>No, all right, and especially I was gonna say, and

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 2>especially in the NBA, the n especially in the NBA.

0:29:54.680 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 2>So at the beginning of the season, right, you look

0:29:57.040 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 2>at what the numbers were at the beginning of the season,

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>the Nets for plus six hundred, the Clippers were plus

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>six fifty, Milwaukee was plus five fifty. The Lakers were

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.400
<v Speaker 2>the big favorites, like plus two to fifty to plus

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 2>two to seventy five, maybe a plus three hundred out there, right,

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>So if the regular season doesn't matter other than making

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 2>sure your guys are healthy and you make it to

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 2>the regular season, then why should anything we've seen during

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.240
<v Speaker 2>the regular season really change the way that we thought

0:30:19.280 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 2>about anything at the beginning of the year, with the

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:24.120
<v Speaker 2>one exception being the Brooklyn Nets. And the reason for

0:30:24.240 --> 0:30:27.320
<v Speaker 2>it is the Brooklyn Nets are materially different now than

0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 2>they were when we were making those plus six hundred

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.040
<v Speaker 2>bets at the beginning of the year. They added that

0:30:31.120 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 2>James Harden guy, he's pretty good at bet he's all right,

0:30:34.800 --> 0:30:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you know. And again, if he's gonna be healthy, if

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Durant's gonna be healthy, if Kyrie is gonna be healthy,

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>then that should be a lower number than the plus

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>six hundred at the beginning of the year. It should

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>be basically in line with the number that the Lakers have,

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>arguably less than that if you think that that Big

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 2>three is gonna wind up beating Lebron. So seeing that

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>number at two forty right now, I don't think it's

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>a bad number. I think that's where it belongs. Like,

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that's the right number there. Now you should

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 2>also see the Lakers number tick up a little bit

0:31:01.080 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 2>because of that, because again, now you have a team

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 2>that is much easier to see being a team that

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>can challenge them and beat them that numbers at three

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 2>to fifty. Again, it was two fifty at the beginning

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 2>of the year. So I like the fact that I

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>could get an extra hundred basis points now on the Lakers,

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.479
<v Speaker 2>because again, if the regular season doesn't matter other than

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>to get into the playoffs, then really the season hasn't

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>even started yet. So if you're gonna give me a

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 2>better odds on the Lakers now than I could have

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 2>got at the beginning of the season, I like that.

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:28.840
<v Speaker 2>The same thing goes in the opposite direction for the

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Utah Jazz. Like I said, thirty six hundred at the

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 2>beginning of the season twenty four, you know, about a

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 2>month into the season when I rode up and bet

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>on them. Now they're plus seven hundred. I can't take

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:41.440
<v Speaker 2>plus seven hundred. I can't take that number on the

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Utah Jazz. For me to take it to Jazz right now,

0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>they probably have to be double that number. They'd have

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 2>to be twelve or fourteen hundred for me to be interested,

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and they're not there right now. You could get the

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee Bucks in some places at eight nine hundred, maybe

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 2>even like a thousand, depending on where you're looking.

0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, the Bucks right now plus seven to fifties consensus number,

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>but I'm seeing eight. I'm seeing seven fifties. That's about

0:32:02.680 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 1>where you're at right now for the most of the spots.

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 1>But now, do you think to a certain degree too,

0:32:07.560 --> 0:32:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're both old enough to remember last year

0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>when the Bucks were rolling and then COVID hit and

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 1>then the bubble did not treat them kindly. It was

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>not a good look for them. So do you think

0:32:18.000 --> 0:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>that this Bucks team has shown you that they've kind

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>of either learned from this or are motivated to kind

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>of get passed last year? Because last year was a

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>huge disappointment for that.

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>So here's one of my favorite stats to look at.

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:31.240
<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite stats to look at is the

0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:33.920
<v Speaker 2>point differential that a team has, right, because what it

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>does is it looks at what their offensive efficiency number

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 2>is per one hundred possessions and their defensive efficiency per

0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 2>one hundred possessions. So games are played at different paces,

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 2>so sometimes there's one hundred and ten possessions in a game.

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes there's only ninety eight possessions in a game, but

0:32:47.520 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>it's usually somewhere a little above one hundred. So the

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 2>way you got to look at that is it doesn't

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 2>matter who you're playing against when it comes to pace.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 2>If you're the team that's doing the most offensively per

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.719
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and stopping the other team the most defensively,

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be in a lot of games. And

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 2>there are usually three to five teams every year that

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>are in the top ten in both offensive efficiency and

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 2>defensive efficiency. And these are teams that usually wind up

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 2>making deep runs. And this is the reason why I

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>liked the Miami Heat last year because last year the

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>Miami Heat were a top ten team in offensive efficiency

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 2>and a top ten team in defensive efficiency. The Milwaukee

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Bucks were two, and they lost to the Miami Heat,

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 2>another team who was what I call a due qualifier,

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 2>and both of those things. The other team that was

0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 2>a due qualifier was the Boston Celtics, who was one

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 2>of the other teams that was on the road for

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 2>those teams to get to the finals. The Lakers weren't

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 2>last year, but they were eleventh overall in scoring, so

0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>they were like literally right on the outskirts of it.

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 2>And they were one of the top defensive teams, so

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 2>you can kind of make a little bit of an

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.560
<v Speaker 2>exception for them. But the teams that tend to make

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 2>the deepest runs are usually the ones that are good

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 2>on offense and good on defense. The Milwaukee Bucks this

0:33:54.440 --> 0:33:56.360
<v Speaker 2>year are one of those teams that's a due qualifier.

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Top ten on defense, top ten on offense. Right now,

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I think there's Eavington's fifth or fifth and seventh somewhere

0:34:02.040 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 2>in there. But these are the teams that I have

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 2>the most faith in because they can beat you multiple ways.

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>They can go out and shut you down, hold you

0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 2>to ninety five points, and even have a bad shooting

0:34:11.440 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 2>game and win one oh one to ninety five. They're

0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 2>also the team that can get in attract, meet with you,

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 2>and beat you one twenty five to one to fifteen,

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.520
<v Speaker 2>and those are the kind of teams that usually make

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.359
<v Speaker 2>the deep runs. Milwaukee being one of those teams this year.

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Now could some of the other teams, like the Mets

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:26.920
<v Speaker 2>play no defense whatsoever.

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Obviously doesn't hurt him in the regular season because they

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 3>have so much offense and they are the most efficient

0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:34.880
<v Speaker 3>or one of the most efficient offenses in the league,

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 3>but in a playoffs that comes back to haunt you

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 3>if you're not playing any defense.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>So there are chinks in that armor that you can

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:45.239
<v Speaker 2>go against. The Sixers are the opposite great defensively. Offensively though,

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.480
<v Speaker 2>they suck really outside of like Joelle and b dominating

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 2>and putting up forty point games. Like Ben Simmons is

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 2>a very good facilitator, but he's not a great scorer.

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, Tobias Harris is decent. And then you're talking

0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 2>about guys like Seth Curry and Shape Milton and you know,

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:01.360
<v Speaker 2>and I mean they're in there to like hit some

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 2>shots and feed some of these big guys, but they

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 2>don't have the offensive power that they can win those

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 2>games when you know their defense isn't shutting teams down.

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee is the team that could play either one of

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 2>those two ways and still wind up winning games. So

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:17.319
<v Speaker 2>that's why to me, that's the team that has the

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 2>most value out of all these teams here.

0:35:19.320 --> 0:35:21.120
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0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:29.000
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0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:32.279
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0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>on to fade the noise right now? What's happening with you?

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, you know me, every day I am

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 2>pretty deep into the NBA prop bets at the moment.

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>That's kind of the angle that I'm taking and the

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>angle that I've been, you know, the most in on

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>this season for NBA. So every day of the week,

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<v Speaker 2>I come out with the NBA prop video. So if

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.279
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<v Speaker 2>the FtM network YouTube page and check that out. And

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 2>then again, FTN bets is the site that I'm the

0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 2>head of content from, so between writing articles and Ye'll

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 2>get other people to get there are articles in on time.

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<v Speaker 2>You can find all myself over there, because that's pretty

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 2>much how it goes in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You go, that's Benny Richardi, everybody, great stuff as always.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope everybody enjoys their NBA wagering. That'll do it

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.200
<v Speaker 1>for us today, but the story of the game goes

0:36:13.200 --> 0:36:16.200
<v Speaker 1>on for Benny Richardi. I'm Joey P. We'll see you

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<v Speaker 1>next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids,