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Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Final Hour.

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Speaker 2: In this Tuesday, Dan and The Dan Net's Dan Patrick

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Speaker 2: Show talked to Steve Tasker, former Buffalo Bill greg Al's

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Speaker 2: morale in Buffalo today. Also Jay Billis will stop by

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Speaker 2: as well. That's some college basketball coming up, some big

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Speaker 2: matchups we'll talk about that. Also Spurs at the Thunder.

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Speaker 2: It's Wemby versus Chad Hongren Timberwolves, the Sneaky Timberwolves at

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Speaker 2: the Warriors. That's the Marquee games in the NBA. And

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Speaker 2: some mac football, some maction coming up. Jim Harball talks

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Speaker 2: at his press conference. Not sure if he's going to

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Speaker 2: speak at the hearing coming up on Friday, but it's

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Speaker 2: Michigan versus Maryland coming up on Saturday. Broncos over the

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Speaker 2: Bills at the Buzzer twenty four, twenty two, the Bills

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Speaker 2: five and five, the Broncos at four and five. Pole

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Speaker 2: question for the final hour of the program is going

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Speaker 2: to be what Seaton O'Connor.

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Speaker 3: Dan Josh Allen is a three NFL quarterback, are hurting

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Speaker 3: his team as much as helping it. But right now

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Speaker 3: that's at eighty one percent. That he's hurting his team

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Speaker 3: as much as helping it. And then are the Bills

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Speaker 3: going to be in the super Bowl and miss the playoffs?

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Speaker 3: That's ninety five percent missed the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at the draft order right now. Bears that

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Speaker 2: pick from the Panthers. Then it's the Giants, Cardinals, Patriots, Bears, Packers, Rams, Titans, Broncos, Falcons, Bears, yes, Giants, yes,

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Speaker 2: Cardinals maybe, Patriots yes, Bears no, Packers, probably not, Rams, yes, Titans, no, Broncos,

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Speaker 2: probably no, Falcons.

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Speaker 4: Yes. Drafting a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Bears have two picks and probably if they have that

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Speaker 2: first pick, would use it on a quarterback. I'd think

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Speaker 2: the Giants, I'd certainly think long and hard about that.

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray is playing for his job, his future in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: But does Arizona want Kyler Murray to be their quarterback

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Speaker 2: in their future? And Kyler made some plays, maybe he

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Speaker 2: had a nice little scramble for thirty three yards, but

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Speaker 2: he's hurting the draft status. The Patriots, they will move on.

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Speaker 4: The Packers.

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Speaker 2: Do you give Jordan Love another year? Let me see

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Speaker 2: what happens the rest of this season. The Rams, yes,

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Speaker 2: I mean they with Stafford there, But how much longer

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Speaker 2: you had Stetson Bennett who was on the roster. The Titans,

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Speaker 2: you have three quarterbacks and even though will Levis he

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Speaker 2: looked great, then he looked okay, and then he looked average.

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Speaker 2: But this is what happens. Teams get a large enough

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Speaker 2: sample size on Will Levis and now you start to

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Speaker 2: plan defensively. And that's what happened. I think these last

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Speaker 2: two games the Broncos, do you take a quarterback if

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Speaker 2: you're inside the top ten, I'm gonna say probably not

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Speaker 2: Falcons at ten? What are you going to get? Who

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Speaker 2: are you going to get? And do you want to

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Speaker 2: get the fourth best quarterback at number ten or do

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Speaker 2: you want to get maybe the you know, the first

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Speaker 2: best player at another position. You know, that's always the dilemma.

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Speaker 2: It's like, you got to get got to get a quarterback. No,

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Speaker 2: you have to get your quarterback. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: the key. Sometimes when you draft, you're like, hey, we

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Speaker 2: got to get our quarterback. No, get your quarterback. There's

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Speaker 2: a big difference in that. All right, eight seven seven

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Speaker 2: three DP show email address DP at Danpatrick dot com.

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Speaker 2: He went to seven Pro Bowls, five time first team

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Speaker 2: All Pro. He is the former CBS Supports analyst and reporter.

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Speaker 2: He co hosts One One Bill's Live that airs weekdays

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Speaker 2: from one to three, and he also handles postgame duties

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Speaker 2: for the team. What was it like, Steve postgame in

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Speaker 2: the locker room for the Bills.

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking it's pretty excruciating. Yeah, this is this is

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Speaker 5: a game that you know, you got to feel like

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Speaker 5: you're a Bill that you absolutely gift wrapped and tied

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Speaker 5: a bow on for the Broncos to give away a

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Speaker 5: game like that, particularly at the end where not only

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Speaker 5: have you played and turned the ball over your minus

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Speaker 5: three on the turnovers in the first half alone, you're

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Speaker 5: still only trailing by a touchdown. Come back, finally give

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Speaker 5: yourself a lead with two minutes ago with a defense

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Speaker 5: that has been played really well even though they were

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Speaker 5: being depleted, and the men to have a miss a

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Speaker 5: on the field. It's I think it's excruciating and embarrassing

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Speaker 5: a little bit. Yeah, it's definitely a dark, dark Tuesday

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Speaker 5: in Buffalo after a Monday night game, no question about it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, can you pinpoint what's the problem?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I can't. There have been a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: There was a stretch early in the first month of

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Speaker 5: the season where this team was lights out, you know,

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Speaker 5: hanging thirty seven on the Raider, thirty eight on Washington,

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Speaker 5: they they really seem like they had it now all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden. You're right, The problem seems to be

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Speaker 5: a little bit esoteric. You know, maybe it's one or

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Speaker 5: maybe it's a combination of things. Maybe it's something different

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Speaker 5: every week. But obviously something's wrong with the recipe, whatever

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Speaker 5: the ingredients are. You got too much of this and

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Speaker 5: recipes in the cupboard somewhere and they just can't figure

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Speaker 5: out the mix. Josh Allen seems to be regressing to

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Speaker 5: where he was twenty eighteen, turning it over too much.

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Speaker 5: Ye certainly, he's and certain And one thing that's been

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Speaker 5: disconcerting is they come out of these games and they're

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Speaker 5: turning it over I mean right away, I mean right

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Speaker 5: out of the gate. In three games this this year,

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Speaker 5: they've turned it over on the first series, a couple

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Speaker 5: of games on the first offensive play. So obviously that

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Speaker 5: is not a recipe for success. But I think you're

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Speaker 5: one thing. It's been the turnovers more than anything.

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Speaker 2: I made this comparison earlier in the show you played

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Speaker 2: in the Brett Farva. I do see some Brett favre

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen similarities there, wanting to make the play. Brett

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Speaker 2: was a gunslinger. I don't know if Josh is labeled

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Speaker 2: a gun slinger, but you know, always willing to try

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Speaker 2: to make the big play sometime to the detriment of

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Speaker 2: their team.

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Speaker 4: Is that a fair comparison, Oh?

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Speaker 5: I think so. I think Josh has been labeled even

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Speaker 5: by some of the people that had played. In postgame comments,

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Speaker 5: teams have said, yeah, we see a lot of arm

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Speaker 5: arrogance in Josh Allen. You know, we know he's going

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Speaker 5: to try and make a throw nobody else is going

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Speaker 5: to try and make. And let's face it, I mean

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Speaker 5: it's awesome when he does it and pulls it off,

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Speaker 5: and he does it once or twice a game and

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Speaker 5: almost every game, but lately he's been trying a little

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Speaker 5: a little faster than Josh anticipates. We've seen some outstanding

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Speaker 5: catches made in that spot, and we've seen multiple interceptions

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Speaker 5: being thrown there. So teams are starting to get a

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Speaker 5: handle that, Josh, you're gonna try and throw it if

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Speaker 5: you can get in there. So a little bit of that,

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Speaker 5: and then we've also got places where early in games,

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Speaker 5: Josh will throw it to a guy and he'll put

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Speaker 5: and it turns into a volleyball match. The guy comes

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Speaker 5: saw that last night with Gabe Davis on the second

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Speaker 5: the gate, turn it over twice in a game against

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Speaker 5: the Denver Broncos. All of a sudden, they're way in

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Speaker 5: it in a game where maybe otherwise they might be

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Speaker 5: a little overmatched, and they end up pulling it out

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Speaker 2: Now we're talking to Steve Tasker, former Buffalo Bills all pro.

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Speaker 2: Give me best case scenario for this team, realistic, best

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Speaker 4: The rest of the season.

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Speaker 5: They gotta go, I mean, realistically, they got to go.

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking five and two down the stretch, the last

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Speaker 5: eight seven games. Eight games, and they've got the Chiefs,

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Speaker 5: the Eagles, the Cowboys, the Chargers, the Jets, Patriots, and Dolphins.

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Speaker 5: They got a first play schedule, and now they've done

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Speaker 5: you know the first you know, Dan, when you find

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Speaker 5: yourself in the hole, the first thing you gotta do

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Speaker 5: is stop digging. You know, they haven't done that yet.

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Speaker 5: So they got they gotta go, you know, six and two,

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Speaker 5: maybe five and three over the last eight games they

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Speaker 5: five and two to have a shot to really get in. Now,

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Speaker 5: if they beat the Patriots, Dolphins, and Jets, they got

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Speaker 5: a shot at the division title if they can win

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Speaker 5: a couple of those other games. But the best case

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Speaker 5: scenario is if they find some way to claw and

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Speaker 5: wild card. There's there's enough horses in the room to

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Speaker 5: make a run like they did in weeks two, three,

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Speaker 5: and four. They should get von Miller healthier and healthier

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Speaker 5: and healthier. Uh, there's a chance daikuon Jones could get

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Speaker 5: and they'll have guys like Rasuel Douglass get more acclimated

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Speaker 5: So they got a chance to get healthier down the stretch,

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Speaker 5: and they do have the ingredients in the cupboard. I

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Speaker 5: think to put a run together, no question. But now

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Speaker 5: the question isn't how are they gonna look when they

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Speaker 5: get to the playoffs. Can they get over that hump?

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Speaker 5: The question is can they get there? And then when

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Speaker 5: the first month of the season. It's a tall order.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's a long season, but they got to

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Speaker 5: They gotta find a way to get in and then

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Speaker 5: put a run together. That's best case scenario. They got

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Speaker 5: to go five to down those last seven games with

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Speaker 5: a gauntlet of a schedule.

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Speaker 4: If the Bills don't make the playoffs, yeah.

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Speaker 5: If they don't make the playoffs, and it's interesting, it's

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Speaker 5: hard to and I know this too, it's hard to defend,

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Speaker 5: you know what's going on, even with the coaching staff

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Speaker 5: and the players after a game like last night. But

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Speaker 5: this is still a team that's really difficult to beat.

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Speaker 5: The times you see them lose games are through ways

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Speaker 5: that are unsustainable. You don't get a missed field goal

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Speaker 5: and twelve men on the field to beat this, you know,

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Speaker 5: without beating this team last year. The same thing with

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Speaker 5: the Minnesota loss. Last year. They have three game stoppers

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Speaker 5: and all three of them go catastrophically against the Bills.

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Speaker 5: The narrative around Buffalo now as they're looking back, there's

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Speaker 5: a thirteen second game, that game, there's a Hail Murray,

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Speaker 5: there's the Minnesota game, as I mentioned, the overtime game

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Speaker 5: in Tampa Bay. All these losses are all by single digits.

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Speaker 5: They're through some quirky, weird circumstance that somehow the team

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Speaker 5: pulls out of victory. And that's the personality of the

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Speaker 5: Bill's losses. Their wins are convincing and they have the horses,

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Speaker 5: but if you don't go to the playoffs this year

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Speaker 5: and you look at how they've lost, it does seem

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Speaker 5: to be something in that recipe that is not allowing

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Speaker 5: Great seeing you, Dan, thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker five time First Team All Pro Special Team,

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Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls in here. Tom in North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: Hey DP, Hey Bud.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, real quick, I didn't get a chance to call yesterday.

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Speaker 6: looking at the different covers of the Madden Football Game

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, yes, indeed, thank you. Tom.

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Speaker 2: Used to be the Sports Illustrated cover James, but Sports

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Speaker 4: Pet in Georgia, Hi Pete, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 7: What's going on?

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Speaker 4: Hi Pete?

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Speaker 7: I like to make a no Meat Friday tattoo that

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Speaker 7: No, just a no meat Friday.

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Speaker 7: It's December thirty first.

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Speaker 9: The year, Risking meat is not really in my vocabulary,

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Speaker 9: Right, I would do it for a Walter Payton tattoo

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Speaker 7: All right. I don't know how much Walter means. Do

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Speaker 9: I would give up meat to spread the word. But

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Pet Okay, all right.

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Speaker 2: So you may lose out on a meat Friday, but

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Speaker 2: you could get a Walter Payton tattoo. Gibbs in Virginia beach, Hi, Gibbs,

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Speaker 10: Hey, Dano rescripted show on radio.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you?

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Speaker 10: Uh, not exactly, adakus since checking in, But I'm here

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Speaker 10: to settle the AI MJ debate for Lucky Ucciano in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 10: What up to the shop? I told Martin this many

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Speaker 10: Shout out to julians On Franklin. I would never disrespect

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Speaker 10: Jeffrey in any way. But Bubba Chuck had more cultural

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Speaker 10: And Kobe Bryant said it best. We should all be grateful.

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Speaker 10: AI wasn't six or five.

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Speaker 4: All right? Thank you Gibbs. Yeah, Bubba Chuck is AI's nickname.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You wonder if John Thompson didn't come to rescue Alan

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Speaker 4: You're not bitter, all right? It was like one.

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Speaker 3: It was like Patrick ewing, what the hell to keep

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Speaker 3: me matumba? Like all these Alonzo mourning Alan I, where

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Speaker 3: the hell are all these guys coming from?

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Speaker 3: It was it was just one after that. As soon

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Speaker 2: I remember standing next to Iverson, standing next to Steve Nash,

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Speaker 11: Was winning an MVP award averaging about seventeen a night.

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Speaker 4: That's a fun team to watch.

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Speaker 2: It was he should have won one MVP, not two,

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Speaker 4: He was a fun player, all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, take a break. Jay Millis will join us. He's

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Speaker 2: a lawyer, so I'm gonna ask Billis to represent Michigan

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Speaker 4: More phone calls coming up.

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Speaker 2: This just in Buffalo Bills have fired their offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 2: Ken Dorsey. Steve Tasker, who just joined us, sent us

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Speaker 2: The thirteenth annual State Farm champions Classic returns tonight. It's

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Speaker 2: Duke Michigan State and then it'll be Kansas and Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: That'll be at the United Center in Chicago, and Jay'll

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Speaker 2: see it before I get to basketball. You being a lawyer,

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Speaker 13: Ten, primarily Dan a due process argument. I don't think

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Speaker 2: Is there cheating in basketball? I mean, this is signs stealing.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we had the astros in baseball?

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that is still nefarious with college basketball,

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Speaker 13: You know, in the first game, Michigan State has not

435
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Speaker 13: played well. And they're a veteran team that went to

436
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Speaker 13: the Sweet sixteen last year and they got four out

437
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Speaker 13: of their five starters back. The only one gone is

438
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Speaker 13: Joey Howser, and I think they're at two of thirty

439
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 13: one in their first two games from three, They've been

440
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Speaker 13: out rebounded. They have not looked the part of a

441
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Speaker 13: Michigan State team. I tend to think that that's going

442
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 13: to change tonight and it better. You know, Duke just

443
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 13: came off a loss against Arizona in a heavyweight fight

444
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Speaker 13: in Cameron Indoor Stadium. It was so great to see

445
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 13: that kind of game this early in the season. And

446
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 13: you can tell that Tommy Lloyd of Arizona and John

447
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 13: Shire of Duke, you know, want to play those type

448
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Speaker 13: of games and test their teams. And Duke's got some

449
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 13: adjustments to make. They got out rebounded badley against Arizona,

450
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Speaker 13: and Arizona kind of exposed that that, you know, shot

451
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Speaker 13: makers at the fore position. You know, they can lay

452
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Speaker 13: off the four man and clog the lane. So Duke

453
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Speaker 13: staff to adjust to all.

454
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Speaker 2: Best pro prospect in the building tonight will be who

455
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Speaker 2: you know.

456
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Speaker 13: I think there are about fifteen guys off these four

457
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 13: rosters that are going to play in the NBA. I

458
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 13: think Jonathan Givoni projected seven are going to be taken

459
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 13: in the first round this year in the draft. If

460
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Speaker 13: they were to come out, it's probably between I'd say

461
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Speaker 13: Justin Edwards at Kentucky, the freshman or the sophomore Kyle

462
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 13: Filipowski at Duke. They're they're you know, they're very different players.

463
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Speaker 13: But Kentucky's got kind of a I don't want to

464
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Speaker 13: say old school, but it's it's John Califerry going back

465
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Speaker 13: to Hey, we're getting the best freshmen and we're going

466
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Speaker 13: to we're going to develop talent and at the end

467
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 13: of the year, we're going to be really good, but

468
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Speaker 13: we're going to be really young at the beginning and

469
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Speaker 13: bring them along. He did the transfer thing the last

470
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Speaker 13: couple of years and it didn't work out quite the way.

471
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Speaker 13: They weren't as talented but older, and I think he's

472
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Speaker 13: gone back to the no. I want. I want super talent,

473
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 13: and they've got super talent this year.

474
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Speaker 2: The three point shot and how important it is these

475
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Speaker 2: coaches when they go out recruiting. How important is it

476
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: that they're they're looking for that three point shooter, and like,

477
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: where is that at the priority list of bringing in

478
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Speaker 2: these players?

479
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Speaker 13: It's pretty high. It's not quite NBA high, because I

480
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 13: think you know you've noticed this because you know basketball

481
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 13: so well. But there's so many low post big guys

482
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 13: in the country right now that are among the best players.

483
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 13: They're not as coveted in the NBA, so they're staying

484
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Speaker 13: in school longer. Whether it's Zach Edy, Ryan callprintert at Creighton,

485
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 13: you know, Hunter Dickinson at Kansas, you name it. And

486
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 13: years ago those guys would have all been gone, but now

487
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 13: they're coming back.

488
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Speaker 7: One.

489
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Speaker 13: They can make a lot of money in college, but

490
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Speaker 13: they're not first round draft picks like they've been in

491
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Speaker 13: the past. I think if you can stretch it, you're

492
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 13: way more valuable. But you know, you still need rim protection,

493
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Speaker 13: and that's one thing. Kentucky has it. But they've got

494
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Speaker 13: their rim protectives are hurt right now, so they're playing

495
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 13: kind of a smaller lineup five outs, and I think

496
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Speaker 13: that will change when their big guys come back.

497
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Speaker 2: He's Jay Billis. He'll be on the call with Dan

498
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: Shulman in Holly Road tonight. It's a doubleheader on the

499
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Speaker 2: Mothership Duke Michigan State finaled by Kentucky and Kansas. When

500
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: we look back on Loyal to Marymount, were they ahead

501
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 2: of everybody with what is today's like? Was it a

502
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 2: different style with you know, we're going to take the three,

503
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: We're going to give you the two, and we're just

504
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: going to run you all night long.

505
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Speaker 13: A little bit. Yeah. Paul Westead, who I had a

506
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Speaker 13: kind of a connection to. I went to high school

507
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 13: with his daughters, Monika and Patrise at Burling Hills High

508
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 13: School in California. And I also played with Jack McKinney's

509
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 13: son John when he fell off the bike and all

510
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 13: that stuff happened with the Showtime Lakers right around nineteen

511
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Speaker 13: eighty eighty one, give or take, when I was a

512
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 13: sophomore junior high school. And I think when when west

513
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,959
Speaker 13: Head got kind of bounced around a little bit, you know,

514
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Speaker 13: it seemed like he said, Okay, you want to you

515
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 13: want me to play fast. I don't play fast. And

516
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 13: I remember looking at I was an assistant at Brand,

517
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 13: assistant Duke at the time, and I remember looking at

518
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 13: like press, guides and opponents, and everybody had their career

519
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 13: high against Loyal and very high. Everybody if they played them,

520
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 13: that was every player's career high because the scores were

521
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 13: up in the one twenties and one sometimes one thirty.

522
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 13: But yeah, they ran and and you know, defense was

523
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 13: not at a premium, even though like west Head grew

524
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 13: up in the in the Philly kind of LaSalle Saint

525
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 13: Joe's Free where that's not the way they played. But yeah,

526
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 13: I think they were a little bit ahead of their time.

527
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 13: But I think you can balance it and run, get

528
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 13: easy baskets, quick frees. I mean'd rather have a three

529
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 13: in transition than work twenty seconds to get one where

530
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 13: it's going to be more contested. It's not always true,

531
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Speaker 13: but that's that I think back then, Dan, we didn't

532
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 13: understand because a three payment to college in eighty seven,

533
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 13: and we didn't understand the asymmetrical threat it was. Remember

534
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 13: back then when Patina was a providence and everybody's like,

535
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 13: oh my god, look at all the threes they're shooting.

536
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 13: When they shoot twelve a game, you know, Now you

537
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 13: shoot twelve in the first ten minutes. Yeah, and it's

538
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 13: a totally different game now. But it's opened things up

539
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 13: and it's a little bit more exciting game. But I'll

540
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 13: tell you what, like the player, the people our age

541
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 13: that are gone. Geez, these big guys I don't know

542
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 13: how to play like. They're having to guard ball screens

543
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 13: and recover and they're garden multiple actions and you worry

544
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 13: when they pick up a foul. Holy cow. Like, my

545
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 13: biggest task was I had to meet my assignment at

546
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 13: the free pro line and fight him for low post position.

547
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 13: That was the end of it. I never gardened a

548
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 13: ball screen in college.

549
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,239
Speaker 2: But I go back to that Patino Providence team with

550
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Speaker 2: Billy Donovan. I mean, that wasn't a great team as

551
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: much as it was, it felt like it was his system,

552
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: Like he had a system before Nolan Richardson had a system,

553
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: but you know that was defense. But here was Patino,

554
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: I mean, so far ahead of his time with utilizing

555
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: the three point shot as a weapon.

556
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 13: He always has been in everything. He's probably, along with

557
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 13: Bob Knight, maybe the best teacher of the game I've

558
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 13: come across. But you know he's going to look to

559
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 13: what's his advantage. I mean a lot of you know, Dan,

560
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 13: you've seen this as much as I have. A lot

561
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 13: of coaches will talk about how they want to play,

562
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 13: and maybe not enough think about how we're going to win.

563
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 13: Doesn't matter how I want to play, how are we

564
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 13: going to win with the personnel we have? And Patino

565
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 13: has always been at the forefront of how we going

566
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Speaker 13: to win.

567
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Speaker 2: When you see Zion Williamson, now what goes through your mind?

568
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 13: Same thing that went through my mind the first time

569
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 13: I saw him, is that there's never been anybody like

570
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 13: this on a basketball floor. And the only thing that's

571
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 13: kept him from being the the player among the players

572
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 13: in the league has been injured. And when he's healthy,

573
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 13: his numbers are ridiculous. His efficiency is a joke, and

574
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 13: he's freaking unstoppable, and you know, the only the only

575
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Speaker 13: other player I remember saying that about that I've never

576
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 13: seen anything like this on a basketball floor as Victor

577
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 13: when by because it's seven to four, he's doing things

578
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 13: that nobody's ever done at that time, and I'm not

579
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 13: surprised he's maybe a little bit surprised he's having that

580
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 13: much success this early. But I'm not surprised he's having success.

581
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 13: You know, you knew if he stayed healthy, he was

582
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 13: going to come, but this early, it's been pretty remarkable.

583
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Speaker 5: I think.

584
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Speaker 2: And you, of course, were a lockdown defender in college.

585
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 2: How would you guard Victor one byama?

586
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 13: I would start screaming for help and as soon as.

587
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Speaker 4: You got to the arena, yeah, don't.

588
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 13: I don't think i'd be in the game very long

589
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 13: if I were. But that's kind of the thing.

590
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Speaker 4: I mean, you know you played against Samson though, didn't you.

591
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 13: Well, I was in the game when Samson was there.

592
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 13: That was my first ACC game. It was a number

593
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Speaker 13: We played number one Virginia. It was like late December

594
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 13: in or early December in nineteen eighty three, eighty two,

595
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 13: eighty two and three. And I did a great defensive

596
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 13: job on Samson. I held him to thirty six points. OK,

597
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 13: And it was remarking, but and I felt really bad

598
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 13: about that. I thought I need to find something else

599
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 13: to do. And then two weeks later, he had forty

600
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 13: against Ohio State. He was guarded by Clark Kellogg and

601
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 13: Hurt Williams, and I thought, well, maybe I don't suck

602
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 13: as much as I thought they had two players on

603
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 13: him at forty.

604
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: Are you Are you at Duke's practice? Now?

605
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 13: Yeah, they're They're finishing up their shoot around. Then Michigan

606
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 13: State comes in.

607
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 4: Dama, you're not going to get yet.

608
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: If Coach k was coaching Duke right now, would he

609
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: have a problem with you being on a zoom call.

610
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 13: No, No, he wouldn't have a problem. Coach k treated

611
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 13: me as a broadcaster much like as a player. He

612
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 13: didn't notice me when I.

613
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 4: Was in the gym.

614
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: I said this when Coach Knight died, that you did

615
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: me a favor when you talked to him one time

616
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: and he wanted to know if anybody, I'm paraphrasing anybody

617
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: Sports Center New Basketball, and you mentioned that I did,

618
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: and it changed my relationship with him up until the

619
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: very end, I was in contact with somebody who was

620
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: close to him. But I wanted to thank you again

621
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 2: for saying that, because a you were correct that I

622
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: did no basketball. But you know, he he accepted me

623
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: because of you.

624
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 4: Kind of validating that. So I appreciate that.

625
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 13: Well, he accepted you because of you, not anything I said.

626
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 13: I mean, it was just a discussion. He didn't find

627
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 13: too many people at that time at the company that

628
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 13: he trusted and on the basketball side, and I tried

629
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 13: to talk him out of it that there were and

630
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 13: you know you were there one, but it was it

631
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 13: was not just basketball knowledge, Dan, I don't need to

632
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 13: blow smoke at you, but it was. It was because

633
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 13: of how trustworthy you are, and so I'm not surprised

634
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 13: you too had a good relationship.

635
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 4: Have fun.

636
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. My best to Holly and Dan.

637
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: And we'll be watching.

638
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 13: Tonight always, brother, thank you for having me.

639
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: That's Jay Billis. He'll be on the call tonight. So

640
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: it's a double header. It's Duke in Michigan State. That's

641
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 2: seven Eastern on the Mothership, followed by Kentucky and number

642
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: one Kansas. It's the United Center in Chicago. Let me

643
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: see if I can squeeze in a phone call here.

644
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: Barry in New Mexico, Good morning, Barry, what's on your

645
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 2: mind today?

646
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 14: Good morning Sellas, Good morning chat Row Dan. I've been

647
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 14: a faithful listener, hopefully good eve You yups over the

648
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 14: years said you please please please stop playing the Robert

649
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 14: Sala press conferences.

650
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 7: I mean I have two eyes.

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Speaker 14: I was at the game on Sunday. They're not changing

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Speaker 14: the quarterback and not changing the good play calling. They're

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Speaker 14: not for ready, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, we'll do Barry. Actually I won't. I'll continue to

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Speaker 2: play Robert Salah and let the beard go gray. If

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Speaker 2: it goes gray. That's my advice. You don't want to

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Speaker 2: do what Ryan Day did.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: You have to maintain it all the time.

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Speaker 2: You wake up every morning, and that's the first thing

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Speaker 2: you're gonna do is how's my beard? Is there any

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Speaker 2: gray in there?

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Speaker 4: Let it go?

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Speaker 2: David in Texas? Hi, David, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 10: Hey?

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Speaker 7: Dan? Hey Dad?

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Speaker 6: Two twenty five, Thanks for taking my call. Hey, I

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Speaker 6: got a new slogan for Crappensburg State.

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Speaker 4: Okay, are you ready?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Crappensburg State.

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Speaker 7: Just go.

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Speaker 4: Okay, thank you, David. Uh, just do it?

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Speaker 11: Just go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I'm looking at the ninety fifty forty guys.

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Speaker 2: Larry Bird did it? Eighty six and eighty seven, Mark Price,

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Speaker 2: Reggie Millner, Steve Kerr, Steve Nash, Dirk Novitski. Here's one

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Speaker 2: for you, hose A Calderon.

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Speaker 11: Of course.

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Speaker 2: Then it was Steve Nash, Steve Nash, Steve Nash, Kevin

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Speaker 2: Durant Steph Curry. That's the list of those who have

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Speaker 2: gone ninety from the line, fifty from the floor, and

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Speaker 2: forty from three point range. Last call for phone calls,

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Speaker 2: that big tomorrow the lead singer for the band Rush.

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Speaker 2: Geddy Lee will join us on the program. He is

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Speaker 2: selling all of his baseball memorabilia and I saw an

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Speaker 2: interview he did with Dan Rather and he had a

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Speaker 2: ton of lot of baseballs. But we'll talk to him

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Speaker 2: about why he's selling all of his memorabilia. Will Geddy

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Speaker 2: Lee sing on the show?

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Speaker 4: Holy, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think he's retired, retire retired, Yeah, but your voice

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Speaker 2: isn't retired.

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Speaker 9: He may shred the bass if you want him to

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Speaker 9: a little, that'd be fantastic. Okay, do you think you

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Speaker 9: would ever sell? I wonder if he's also selling Rush

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Speaker 9: memorabilia like bass guitars that he used back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you going to answer the phone? Kind of

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Speaker 2: like gwyn Seaton I did with Ricky Henderson.

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Speaker 9: I answered the phone last time Getty Lee called him,

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Speaker 9: and I tried my best. I had the dry mouth thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: great to have you on. I'm not making that all up.

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Speaker 4: He goes, Oh, thanks, I'm like, put them on.

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Speaker 11: Just put him on hold, dummy.

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna have that.

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Speaker 2: But to top Getty Lee being on, Marvin has a

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Speaker 2: documentary being done on his life by the Connecticut Huskies magazine.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know they had one, but they're coming in

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Speaker 2: tomorrow to observe and see how Marvin a grad of

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Speaker 2: Yukon and how he kind of lives a daily, daily

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Speaker 2: life here.

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Speaker 11: Yes, Marvin, I can't wait to embellish.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 15: I had the most humble of beginnings. I didn't know

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Speaker 15: how I was going to eat the next day. I

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Speaker 15: can't wait till my mother just goes, what, Marv, you

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Speaker 15: looked pretty normal. I didn't know they were living under

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Speaker 15: a breathe Wait what? And then we have to come

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Speaker 15: up with some quotes. You know, maybe maybe the audience

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Speaker 15: could help us suggest some quotes that we could use

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Speaker 15: for Marvin, just generic quotes that kind of describe Marvin

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Speaker 15: in a nutshell.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, when this issue of magazine comes out, we should

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Speaker 9: promote the heck out of it. Make it the biggest

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Speaker 9: selling issue ever. Like to cover with Diana Tarassi is

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Speaker 9: do they do they?

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Speaker 4: Do they charge you for this magazine?

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Speaker 13: Or I don't?

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Speaker 9: I think send out to a lums. Oh, let's say

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Speaker 9: there's a website where you could order a copy. We

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Speaker 9: just blow the doors off. Yeah, I'm going to order

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Speaker 9: a thousand the Gino r e M one second time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Paige Becker's issue, you're gonna outsell that. Marvin Prince yep, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: with magazine sold the best obviously, Marvin Prince obviously.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick show uh Dale in Kentucky. Hi Dale, what's

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Speaker 2: on your mind? Then we'll do this day in sports history?

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Speaker 4: Hi Dale?

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Speaker 16: Hey, Dan, I caught your interview on Carissa and Aaron

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Speaker 16: Andrews Calm Down. That was awesome and I wanted to

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Speaker 16: tell you as of Friday, I will be a member

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Speaker 16: of the dp S. I c the Dan Patrick shutting

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Speaker 16: Oh replacement on my right knee Friday, So any advice

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Speaker 16: wards of encouragement. I'm going to be excluded to Peacock

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Speaker 16: for the next six weeks.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're getting a full knee replacement. Yes, okay. There's

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Speaker 2: a machine, an ice machine that will go on your

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Speaker 2: knee and it just pumps cold, cold water inside that

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Speaker 2: device that they have. Ask for it, Demand it and

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Speaker 2: use it as much as you can because it will

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Speaker 2: make it a whole lot easier. I went out and

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Speaker 2: bought one because they were going to take it away

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Speaker 2: from me after two weeks, and I said, I got

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Speaker 2: it for four weeks and it makes the transition a

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Speaker 2: little bit easier.

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Speaker 4: And your rehab is really important. Dale.

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Speaker 2: You have to do it. You have to do it.

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Speaker 2: It's going to hurt you break through the scar tissue.

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Speaker 2: Once you do that, make sure you go every single day.

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Speaker 2: Do not skip a rehab and drink tequila probably would

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Speaker 2: be what I would say you, But good Luckdale, We're

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Speaker 2: all counting on you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This ice machine, I don't know what it's called, but

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Speaker 2: it was unbelievable. And then I'm gone, Okay, this is tolerable.

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Speaker 2: And then they go, we need the machine back. You

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Speaker 2: can only have it for two weeks. I go, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: you can't have this. You can take one of my kids.

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Speaker 2: But I got it. You gotta keep this. This day

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Speaker 2: in sports history, Paul.

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Speaker 9: This is always a fun one. Nineteen forty three, Sid Luckman,

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Speaker 9: the Bears quarterback, became the first ever quarterback to throw

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Speaker 9: for more than four hundred yards in a game. There

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Speaker 9: were seven touchdowns, as well as four to thirty three

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Speaker 9: against the New York Giants. That was in nineteen forty three.

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Speaker 9: He still holds the Bears record for most touchdown passes

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Speaker 9: in a game. Oh, well, nobody's going to get to seven. No,

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Speaker 9: especially a Bears quarterback. Three is like six for a

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Speaker 9: Bears who's second all time on the.

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Speaker 2: Bear's list of touchdowns in it in a game. Sid Luckman,

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Speaker 2: Mitch Trubisky was sick. Of course, he is Ruth Bisky. Yes,

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Speaker 2: anything else? U?

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Speaker 9: Carmen Elector and Dennis Robin married in Vegas.

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Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety eight. Yeah, I thought it was going to last.

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Speaker 2: Don Shula broke George Hollis's career record three hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty five NFL victories.

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Speaker 4: Uh, let's see what else do I have here? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's about it.

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Speaker 14: Huh.

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Speaker 2: Let's go around the room. What we learned on the program? Todd,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with you. Do you learn anything today?

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Speaker 14: I did?

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Speaker 8: Steve Tasker talking about the Bills and his best unintentional

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Speaker 8: Doctor phil impersonation says, when you find yourself in a hole,

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Speaker 8: you gotta stop digging.

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Speaker 2: The Buffalo Bills have fired their offensive coordinator Can Dorsey

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Speaker 2: See no, Connor, what did you learn today?

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson went back to the future.

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Speaker 11: Marvin Michigan is America's team.

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Speaker 4: Paulie, what did you learn lots of mac football. To me,

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Speaker 4: what did I learn today?

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Speaker 8: Toddler Steve Tasker once again says the Bills have the

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Speaker 8: recipe for success in the cupboard somewhere, but they just

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Speaker 8: can't find the mix.

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Speaker 2: I did laugh out loud when he said, you know,

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Speaker 2: when you're you're in a hole, stop digging, and you.

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Speaker 11: Gotta understand some I'm daring. When you find yourself in

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Speaker 11: a hole, you're gonna stop bigging. You got this big

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Speaker 11: fancy acquire and ain't got no fish in it.

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