1 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Late Kick is Live. It is 2 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Tuesday night, November seventeenth year of our Lord twenty twenty 3 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: jam packed show. It's Prediction Tuesday. We've also got coaching 4 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: Search Intel to talk about a little bit earlier in 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: the season, shall I say than we normally do, But 6 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna go to Columbia South Carolina figuratively, I mean, 7 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna stay right here, and so we're going to 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: talk about what we've heard, what we're feeling, and to 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: be honest with you, I know it's only been forty 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: eight hours, but I already have don't know what changed, 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: already have a little bit different feel on that coaching 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: search at South Carolina than I did again just forty 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: eight hours ago. So we're going to do all of that. 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: We're what games we breaking down, Colin. We've got Auburn 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: Tennessee in no particular order, of course, the big much 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: anticipated Top ten show down Michigan Ohio's excuse me, Penn State, 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: O excuse me, Indiana versus Ohio State. That is your 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: top ten showdown in the Big ten this year. So 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: we're going to do that. Game breakdowns, predictions, US against 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: the spread, etc. And we're also doing Bedlam Oklahoma State 21 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: and Oklahoma I looked in the sky when I could 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: have just looked at my notes here. Also, as I said, 23 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: two added best bets tonight. Already put one of them 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: out on Twitter today. Make sure you're following me at 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: late kick Josh for that. And consultation season continues. Every 26 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: day I give out the email and the Twitter, and 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: every day I say that'll probably be the last time, 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: and then every day, like ten of you ask for 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: a consultation. So I'll remind you again because as long 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: as you're coming, I'm going to continue to give it out. 31 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: What we're doing, and by we, I mean myself. What 32 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing is sports media. If you're interested in it, 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: if you're interested in going your own route, go your 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: own way Fleetwood Mac reference there on your YouTube channel podcast. 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: You really don't necessarily know where you want to get 36 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: into the industry, but you think you belong in the 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: industry wherever you are eighteen twenty eight fifty eight. Don't 38 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: care how old you are, don't care where you are, 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: don't care what kind of degree you have or don't have. 40 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: Hit me up, Josh pat seven zero six at gmail 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: dot com and also you can DM me on Twitter 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: at late Kick Josh. We've got a lot to get 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: to tonight. I was doing one of those consultations last night. 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: I forgot to say this the other night, so I 45 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: was I was going to say it tonight because I've 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: shared this with some of you, many of you. I've 47 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: at this point probably spoken to three dozen of you, 48 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: I would guess somewhere between twenty five and fifty on 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: the consultation on the one on one zoom deal. And 50 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: so some of you have asked about like how do 51 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: we format these shows? And what all goes into these shows? 52 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: And you think there's an army of people, it's me 53 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: and Colin's that's who's making the show happen. And so 54 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: you guys are why we can make it happen. But 55 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: what you've some of you guys have asked, is like 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: how do you sit there and you just talk alone 57 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: the whole time? And so I go all the way 58 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: back to Columbus and every day at lunch, we would 59 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,839 Speaker 1: go to a place in Columbus called Clearviewbararbecue. They only 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: take cash, Great Barbecue ninety nine cent chips now, which 61 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: is so we would get like three or four of them. 62 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: You could stuff yourself to a ridiculous level from under 63 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: five dollars. That's counting your sweet team. And so we 64 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: would sit there and me and somebodies who worked in 65 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: various different companies businesses around town. We would go eat 66 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: and we would just sit there and talk about college football. 67 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Well that's how I format the show. That's it. It's 68 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: not lunch pale, it's lunch table. I talk exactly how 69 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: I would talk if I was down at Clearview Barbecue 70 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: in Columbus, Georgia. They have not paid me to say that, 71 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: by the way, I have to always announce that for 72 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: contractual reasons. But it's Clearview Barbecue format. It's just lunch 73 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: table format. The only difference is I happen to be 74 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: looking at a camera right there or there or over 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: there instead of you sitting there. But I don't really 76 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: look at the lens, as I've told you guys in 77 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: the Zoom sessions, just look through the lens and just 78 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: talk to the person because it's a conversation. The only 79 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: downside is I can't hear you talking back to me. 80 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: But that's okay because I talk to you guys all 81 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: the time. Anyway, so I know exactly what you're thinking 82 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: most of the time, and I know if I'm wrong 83 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: about it, you'll let me know. So with that in mind, 84 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: let's dive into the show tonight. The South Carolina Coaching 85 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: Search continues. Here we are again. It is November seventeenth, 86 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: and we're already two days in to the South Carolina 87 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Coaching Search. Some things that I really wish a lot 88 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: of you guys would stop caring about. A lot of 89 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: my time that I spend responding to some of you 90 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 1: is spent responding to things I'd wish you just didn't 91 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: care about. Let me tell you what the three things are. 92 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,559 Speaker 1: The first thing, I really wish you'd stop caring about 93 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: what the AP ranks your team, because the AP is 94 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: totally irrelevant. I would argue they always have been, but 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: now they really are. Forget about that College Football Playoff 96 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: Committee matters. AP doesn't, so stop worrying about it, and 97 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: the first Playoff Committee ranks haven't even come out this year. Secondly, 98 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: I really wish you guys didn't care about TV ratings. 99 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how many people watched your game. Doesn't 100 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: matter if more people watched Penn State and Michigan State. 101 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: Then watched Clemson versus Georgia Tech. Doesn't matter. Did you 102 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: watch the game? Did you and enjoy it? It's all 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 1: that matters. Quit worrying about TV ratings. And the third 104 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: thing that I really wish people would stop caring so 105 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: much about is what outsiders think of your program. The 106 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: program doesn't belong to them. Someone sitting in a studio 107 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: in Nashville, Tennessee, or Bristol, Connecticut, or Los Angeles, California, 108 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: your program's not their program, doesn't care. I don't care 109 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: what they think about your program. You shouldn't care what 110 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,119 Speaker 1: they think about your program. The only opinions that really 111 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: matter when it comes to your program are yours and 112 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: the potential candidates out there, the suitors with which you're 113 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: trying to attract using your program to the job. Those 114 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: are the opinions that matter. The other ones irrelevant. So 115 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: if someone's out there telling you South Carolinians right now, 116 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: telling you, oh, your program's not what you think it is, 117 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: who cares? Do you love your program? Yeah? Are you 118 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: highly emotional? Yes you are. Are you very much invested, 119 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: almost to an unnatural degree? Yes, that's why we're allowed 120 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: to do these shows because there's that much passion out there. 121 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be the one who sits here 122 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: in the studio and knocks that I'm all for it. 123 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: I'd be the exact same way you guys are. You 124 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: think your job is the best one on the planet, 125 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: then it's the best one on the planet. Now let's 126 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: talk about what kind of job it actually is as 127 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: it pertains to the candidates that you're trying to vet 128 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: right now. And a tract. I was on a radio 129 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: show yesterday and someone was asking me to compare the 130 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: South Carolina job to the Clemson job, and I didn't 131 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: really want to do it. I was kind of joking 132 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: around back and forth, but I really don't want to 133 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: do it. Number one, because it's irrelevant to me. It's irrelevant. 134 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: I think the whole Clemson South Carolina comparison is really overblown. 135 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: But they said, well, the reason I bring it up 136 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: is because the Clemson program is night and day in 137 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: a different stratosphere than South Carolina's. Maybe it is at 138 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: this moment, what was it a decade ago? In fact, 139 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: if we were to ask that same question a decade ago, 140 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: South Carolina versus Clemson, better job, better program, I mean, 141 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,559 Speaker 1: it was very, very very competitive. At the very least, 142 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: you would have had a fifty five to forty five 143 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: split either way nationally talking about that. So my point 144 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: is ten years ago, if I would have told you 145 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: in a decade, Clemson is going to be right there 146 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: with the two or three elites in America, you would 147 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: have said, that's crazy. They've never been that historically. That's 148 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: what you would have said. That's the same thing that 149 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: people are saying about Carolina right now. Carolina's not an 150 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: elite job, which is factually correct at the moment, But 151 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: then the addendum is historically they've never been that. That's 152 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: also correct. How do you get history, You make history. 153 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: That's the only way. Clemson wasn't what they are now 154 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: until they were. All they had to change was everything 155 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: about themselves, essentially. But the thing about it is they 156 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: made history. That's how you get history. That's how you 157 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: fill the trophy case. You got to make history, then 158 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: you get the history. Then you can sell the history. 159 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: At some point, everybody had no history. Florida stayed under 160 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: Bobby Bowden before Bowden got there, no history like what 161 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: was Miami prior to Snellenberger, And then the company after 162 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: him that came in there. What were they There were nothing. 163 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: What was Clemson historically on the national landscape before Daboswiney 164 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: did what he's done. There really not much of anything 165 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: to write home about. And so Carolina hasn't had that, 166 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: They haven't had that period. I'm not going to be 167 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: the one to say they can't do it. It certainly 168 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: would shock the world if they were to be able 169 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: to elevate that program to the top tier. All it 170 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: takes is one right candidate. So now let's talk about 171 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: the candidates. What's the very latest that we've heard here. 172 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: I continue to encourage you, if you're a Carolina fan 173 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: or you just have a passing interest in this, make 174 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: sure you're dialed into the Big Spur dot com. I 175 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: saw fifteen different insider updates over there at various parts 176 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: of Tuesday. If you're watching live today about this coaching search, 177 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 1: about vetting candidates, about what they're hearing it at three 178 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: ten pm, at four forty five pm, they've probably posted 179 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: something since we've gone on air. If it's happening and 180 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: it's tangible and credible, you'll see it over there. And 181 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: it's a great community they have one of the most 182 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: lively boards of any of the communities on twenty four 183 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: to seven Sports, so the big spur. Make sure you're 184 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: tuned in there. Been reading it throughout the day. Also 185 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: been texting back and forth with a couple of people 186 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: that I know, you know the name that I don't 187 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: hear as much, or at least haven't heard as much today. 188 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: Now this varies, it comes in waves. Haven't heard the 189 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: name Hugh Freeze a lot today. You're gonna hear it externally. 190 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: But as I always encourage you, if you're tuned into 191 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: the subcurrent, the undercurrent rather, you'll be about twenty four 192 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: hours to forty eight hours ahead of the national headlines. 193 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: So the national headlines are really only just now hammering 194 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: Hugh Free's hardcore. Well, that's kind of a name to me, 195 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: at least that's gone a little quiet on this. The 196 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: names that are right there in your face though, are 197 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: of course, Billy Napier. I would view him probably as 198 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse for this job right now, 199 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: still a little ways to go, okay, So I would 200 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: view him as the leader in the clubhouse. But also 201 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: Shane Beemer's a name that you're hearing a lot. I 202 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: want to focus on those two names because of an 203 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: added piece of criteria that I've added just to my 204 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: own list here along with the three bullet points that 205 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: I gave out Sunday night. So there are these two 206 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: words that as I was doing yet another radio show, 207 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I've lived in South Carolina over since 208 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: Sunday essentially, and there are worse places to live, believe me, 209 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: but they feed you so well in South Carolina. That's 210 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: why I say I'm really just a food guy. I've 211 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: never left the state of South Carolina with my stomach growling. 212 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: And so I was talking, and as I'm talking, I 213 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: keep going back to these two words, and the two 214 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: words are dream job. And so let me take you 215 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: back to Sunday Sunday night when we were talking about 216 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: this job, and I said, Hey, if I'm a Carolina 217 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: fan and I'm looking for I'm looking for us to 218 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: hit a grand Slam, here's what I want to have. 219 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: I want to have an offensive minded coach. I know 220 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: there's a there's a train of thought out there that well, 221 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: if you narrow it down already, then you may limit 222 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: yourself to some you know, you're putting the blinders on 223 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: the horse. In other words, there may be a good 224 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: candidate over here that's not necessarily what you would call 225 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: an offensive mind. I know that, but this is this 226 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: is my preference for the program. I've gone the other direction. 227 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: I want an offensive minded head coach. I want a 228 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: very good recruiter, but I want a supremely gifted evaluator 229 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: of talent. Because I'm not necessarily going heads up with 230 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,359 Speaker 1: Georgia with for every four and five star in the Southeast. 231 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: I'm probably not equipped to do that from jump maybe 232 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: down the road, but not right now. So I got 233 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: to evaluate, and I got to be able to beat them, 234 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: at least to start my tenure here with a lesser roster. 235 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: I can do it. It has been done before, it 236 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: will be done again. I want to be the one 237 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: who doesn't. The third factor I went over Sunday night 238 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: is the uh oh factor? Accomplished with your job? What 239 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: ole mess accomplished When they hired Lane Kiffin. They made 240 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: folks in Tuscaloosa and Baton Rouge and college station in Startville, Auburn, 241 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: they made him say uh oh. When Kiffin was hired, 242 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: no one predicted them to win a title, but everyone 243 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: said uh oh. Make them say it in Knoxville and 244 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Gaysville and and everywhere in between. Clemson, why not make 245 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: him say uh oh at the very least with your hire. 246 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: Here's the fourth edition the dream Job Factor. The more 247 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: I think about it, the more I think it is 248 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: so important. With the South Carolina job. Think about what 249 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: your biggest fear is. Okay, because right now hit pause 250 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: on what your biggest fear is, and think about a 251 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: program like Arkansas. Arkansas, I think we can universally agree, 252 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: has been the most pleasant surprise, maybe in all of 253 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: college football so far this year. They've exceeded their win expectation, 254 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: and that was with a win being taken away from 255 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: him at Auburn. Search your heart, you know it to 256 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: be true. What have we heard Sam Pittman say anytime 257 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: someone's put a microphone in front of him, anytime he's 258 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: been on Sports Center, he says, this is my dream job. 259 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone else thinks about Arkansas. What 260 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: I think about Arkansas is this is the one job 261 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: in America I'd want to have over any job. Who 262 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: out there would think that about Carolina? Is it Billy 263 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: Napier Colin showing you b roll of Billy Napier at 264 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 1: Louisiana right now. He has expressed interest, very very loud 265 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: in the past about this job. Everyone inside the industry 266 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: has always heard that. Everyone assumed. Therefore, as soon as 267 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: mus Champs started not getting the job done this year 268 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: and Billy Napier conversely was getting the job done down there, 269 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: it's only a matter of time. Maybe it is, but 270 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: I think Shane Biemer fits that description too. So let's 271 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: go back to the biggest fear thing now, let's hit unpaused, 272 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: let's hit play on the biggest fear what would be 273 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: really your biggest fear here? Carolina is not what I 274 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 1: call a keystone program at this point. The keystones are 275 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: the alpha programs of Texas, Georgia, Obama, in other words, 276 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State. No one's leaving those programs to go to 277 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: a better college job. If they leave, they're either retiring 278 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: or they're going to the NFL. Carolina's not at that 279 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: level at this point. That's my opinion. Again, I led 280 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: this by saying, don't worry about what anyone else thinks. 281 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: But as sure as I said that, that's probably reality 282 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: right now. With Carolina having said that, that is still 283 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: a case by case basis, your biggest fear would be 284 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: someone comes in there and let's say they over it, 285 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: and let's say they exceed everyone's wildest expectations. Well, that's 286 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: not a fear, that's a fantasy. That's a fantasy become reality. 287 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: But then what do you have to worry about if 288 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: it's typical. If you have a typical guy who comes 289 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: in there, you got to worry about where he's going 290 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: to leave you to go to. You got to worry 291 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: about one of the big jobs coming open and they're 292 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: going to come and pluck him from Columbia. I think 293 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: you need to find a guy where you don't necessarily 294 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: have to worry about that. Find your guy, because this 295 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: would be the true fantasy. Find the guy that is 296 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: the supreme evaluator and leader, not just evaluator, but a 297 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: leader of men, an evaluator of talent, a developer or recruiter. 298 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: Find someone who plays the style of ball you want 299 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: to play, who has the uh oh factor, but also 300 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: five years down the road when he's turned over the 301 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: program and you're a true contender in the East doing 302 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: things that no one ever thought Carolina Football could do. 303 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: Find that guy who checks all those boxes and then 304 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: when a major program Michigan, Ohio State LSU, I don't know, 305 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: find someone who would look LSU dead in the eyes 306 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: and say no thanks, I'm happy at South Carolina. If 307 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: you find that guy, it's worth all the pain and 308 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: all the misery and all the swings and misses. And 309 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: they haven't had many at Carolina. But I don't care 310 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: even if you have had them, even if you've been 311 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: as our buddy Serbert says over at the Big Spur 312 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: if even if you've been out in the Abyss, and 313 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: Carolina's not in the Abyss, maybe the wilderness, but not 314 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: the Abyss. There's an entire chart. You need to accompany 315 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: those terms, even if you've been there. Once you hit 316 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: a home run, once you hit a grand Slam, it's 317 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: worth it. I mean, they had it all jumbled up, 318 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: all the mess at Alabama for a long time. They 319 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: swung and miss several times. They got a guy named 320 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: Nick Saban. Rest is history. So that's where we are 321 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: with Carolina coaching search right now, really fascinated to see 322 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: how that turns out, and really pulling for them to 323 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: find the right hire according to their principles and criteria 324 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: As for this week, though, we've got a lot of 325 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: games to break down, and as last this week was 326 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: sold to you as sort of a sleepy schedule, there's 327 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: some very consequential games this weekend. Let's start with Indiana 328 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: at Ohio State. It's Saturday. It's high noon, Eastern time 329 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: on Fox Now. We were talking about this game Sunday night, 330 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: and the line really has not moved on it a 331 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: whole lot. Ohio State a twenty and a half point favorite. 332 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: Remember the formula that we always have when there's a 333 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: big favorite and we're going to break down a game. 334 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: There is a big favorite here and we're breaking down 335 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: the game. We don't do it in typical fashion. If 336 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: we did that, we would just talk about Ohio State 337 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: this entire preview. Instead, what we do is we ask 338 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: one question, which is could we see an upset happening here? 339 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: The answer is on the fringes. But yeah, I mean, 340 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world. If 341 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: Indiana were to win this game, it would be a shock, 342 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: not the biggest shock in the world. And so if 343 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: that happens, here's our preview. How would it happen? Buckeye 344 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: fans can think along here, if you guys were to lose, 345 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: if the worst were to happen and you whisper it 346 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: to yourselves, how would you see that happening? And by 347 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: the way, as I was talking to Colin during before 348 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: the show, if I were to give you one guess, 349 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: actually I'll give you unlimited guesses before the season, and 350 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: I want to see how many guesses it takes you 351 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: to nail the right answer. Here, which matchup in the 352 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: Big Ten this year is going to feature top ten teams? 353 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: How long would it have taken you before you got 354 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: to Indiana and Ohio State? Just think on that over 355 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: under is probably like nine. I don't know how deep 356 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: you would have had to have gone. I look at 357 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: this matchup and I think there is a decent reason 358 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: to believe that neither run game will perform at even 359 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: a B to a B plus level. Both of these 360 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: defenses are capable of doing that. Neither of these run 361 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: games are what you would call elite. Ohio State has 362 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: been clicking the last few games, but they also you know, 363 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: probably I can't believe I'm saying it. They faced the 364 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: best defensive front that they faced all years so far. Again, 365 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying that, but in terms of production, 366 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't you could, at the very least, you can 367 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: make that argument. I know I'm stumbling over myself a 368 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: little bit. I'm not used to saying that very often Indiana, 369 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: but that's where they are. However, here's the downside for 370 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: the Hoosiers. They aren't doing anything on the ground. I mean, 371 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: they're averaging I think two point six two point seven 372 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: yards per carry right now. However, I mean, you look 373 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: at what they've given up against Michigan and Michigan State combined. 374 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: They've given up seventy three yards on the ground, so 375 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: totally yards not the end all be all, but that 376 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: yards per carry average is right down there where you 377 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: would want it as being one of the best run 378 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: defenses in the country. But it's important to note they're 379 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: not just cloggers, you know. They don't just throw the 380 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: old fashioned mush rush on you. And we're gonna give 381 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: quarterback fourteen seconds if he needs it, but you're just 382 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: not going to run it on us. Indiana does a 383 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: pretty decent job of pressuring quarterbacks too. They're very good. 384 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: They're very highly rated in terms of quarterback pressure. Havoc rate, 385 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: So they have all those boxes checked. If you were 386 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: to do blind resumes, Indiana's defense has a lot of 387 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: the metrics and a lot of the boxes checked that 388 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: you would typically expect from a Michigan or a Penn State. 389 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: It's just a testament to what they've done there. And 390 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: so when you look at all that, you still have 391 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: decided advantage all over the board with Ohio State. But 392 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: at the very least, maybe they possess the ability. Keep 393 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: in mind, we're talking about a path to an upset. 394 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: At the very least, maybe they possess the ability to 395 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: make Ohio State one dimensional. Now, I know what you're 396 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: probably thinking if you know anything about Ohio State, and 397 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: that is yeah, Josh had that one dimension. Though even 398 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: if that's the case, it's a really good dimension. His 399 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: name's Justin Fields. We'll get to that in just a second. Timely, Colin, 400 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: very timely. However, I think at least they're willing to 401 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: take their chances the nearly three touchdown underdog. You're willing 402 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: to take chances a little bit more if you know 403 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: you can make your opponent one dimensional. And I'll tell 404 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: you in talking and really reading some of the early 405 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: sort of preview content and getting some of the early 406 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: vibes out of Indiana. I think they feel like a 407 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: few other coaching staffs do in the Big Ten. I 408 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: think they see some vulnerability with Ohio State's defense that 409 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: they think maybe they're equipped to take advantage of. So 410 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak more on that in a second. The 411 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: formula for them, it's the usual when you have an 412 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: underdog of this magnitude, you got to be plus one 413 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: or better. Plus two or plus three would be ideal 414 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: in the turnover battle. But you also have to win 415 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: average starting field position, and that's something that's a stat 416 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: that's not thrown around necessarily as much as turnovers. But 417 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: yet when you look at it at the end of 418 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: the day, I mean, if you're special teams, or if 419 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: any combination of force turnovers or whatnot, I mean, if 420 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: you're averaging your starting field position being forty forty two 421 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: yard line versus twenty five, it's a huge difference thirty 422 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: yard line, whatever the case may be. But also when 423 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: I watch them them being Indiana, when I watched Indiana 424 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: against Penn State in Week one, they can work with tempo, 425 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: but yet they can also be very smart with their tempo, 426 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: and that's what I think they have to do here, 427 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: because you've got a couple of things to consider. This 428 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: is a really it's going to be a really long 429 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: football game. When you're playing a team like Ohio State. 430 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 1: It seems like those games never end if you've got 431 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: to lead on them, if you think you've got an 432 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: edge on them. There are teams that will have an edge, 433 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: and I feel like they got a shot against Ohio 434 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: State and ended up losing forty two to twenty one 435 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: because the game is so long and collectively, when you 436 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: put all those minutes together of superior talent leaning on you, 437 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: it's just really hard. It's really hard to plug fourteen 438 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: holes in the dam with ten fingers all afternoon. That's 439 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: kind of the task sometimes when you're playing a team 440 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: that's superior. However, is it possible, Yeah, I think it 441 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: is possible. The problem that we go back to with 442 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: the one dimensional aspect, even if you succeed in shutting 443 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: down the Ohio State run game, is making the quarterback 444 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 1: beat you. It kind of works, you know, if you're 445 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: playing Penn State. To go back to the Week one matchup, 446 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: you're playing Penn State, Oh, it kind of works. You 447 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: were smart with your tempo as I was talking about, 448 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,400 Speaker 1: and you hurried up to slow down, hurry up, hurry 449 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: up to slow down. And maybe you got a young 450 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: secondary on heels, and you got maybe a green defensive 451 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: front little ensured themselves. Maybe you've accomplished all that, and 452 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: maybe you've made them one dimensional. But this is not 453 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 1: penn State. This is a team that if you make 454 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: them one dimensional and you realize that one dimension is 455 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: justin fields, they'll say all right, here we go and 456 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: then they beat you anyway. So you're probably asking Michael Pennix, 457 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: as a result quarterback there at Indiana, to do more 458 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 1: in this game. You're probably asking him, in reality, to 459 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: shoulder as much of a load in a big game 460 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: as any player in college football will have to shoulder 461 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: all year if they're going to win the game, not compete, 462 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: if they're gonna win the game, he will have to 463 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: shoulder more of a load than Ian Book was asked 464 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: to shoulder for Notre Dame against Clemson, significantly more now 465 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: that I think about it, So again, is it possible? Sure, 466 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: it's possible. Here's the one thing I'm waiting on. We've 467 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: seen it with Florida defense was very bad early in 468 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: the year. Alabama defense far below standard early in the year, 469 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: and you keep seeing week over week incremental improvement there. Well, 470 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: Ohio State's not as far along in their season as 471 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: those two. So Ohio State, if you've watched them close, 472 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: they've been blowout wins. But if you watch the Buckeyes close, 473 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: there's some holes defensively. Again, if you're a fan of theirs, 474 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: you've probably seen them. You hadn't had to pay for 475 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: him yet, and maybe you don't have to pay for 476 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: him Saturday. But here's what I'm starting to wait for. 477 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for those week over week incremental improvements with 478 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: Ohio State because I think they're coming. I think Ohio 479 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: State's defensive product at the end of the year will 480 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: be a lot better than what we've seen thus far. Again, 481 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: they haven't had to pay for that in terms of 482 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: a loss or really even that competitive of a game. 483 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: All right, Colin, let's go game capsule. Here our number 484 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: versus the Vegas number. Now the Vegas number. I told 485 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: you a little bit about this when we made this 486 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: one of our best bets the other night. Again, this 487 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: is a noon kickoff Eastern Tom on Fox. The Vegas 488 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: number is Ohio State minus twenty and a half. I 489 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: expect that to hit twenty one eventually, our in house number. 490 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: Can we generate our own model here, we've got the 491 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: buck guys. I thought it was twenty five and a half. 492 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: Actually we have a minus twenty three and a half. 493 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: That still crosses a very key number obviously. So we 494 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: are going to take Ohio State to win, and we're 495 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,199 Speaker 1: going to take Ohio State to cover. And remember that 496 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: is one of our best bets. We handed that one out. 497 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: Sunday night doesn't always sync up with our games of 498 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: the week, but it does this week. So we liked 499 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: the Buckeyes to win, and we like the buck Eyes 500 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: to cover. Tennessee at Auburn Auburn favored by ten points. Saturday. 501 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: It's a seven o'clock Eastern game on ESPN. Kind of 502 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: a mess in the SEC this week, by the way, 503 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: because the game of the week on CBS was supposed 504 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: to be Ole Miss in Texas A and M. And 505 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: then that got postponed. And you can't just play musical chairs. 506 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,360 Speaker 1: You can't just take this game, the Tennessee Auburn game 507 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: and move it to the three thirty slots. So Saturday, 508 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: where you would normally see the big SEC game on CBS, 509 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: you will see drum roll please not with snapping of fingers. 510 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: San Diego State, Nevada, the one we've all been waiting on. 511 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: As for ESPN, that is the home where you will 512 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: find Tennessee versus Auburn. Tiger's favored by ten. I thought 513 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: both of these teams found themselves in pretty similar spots 514 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: one week off of each other. A couple of weeks ago. Tennessee, remember, 515 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: was emerging out of a bye week. Arkansas was coming 516 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: off the A and M loss, and Tennessee was rested, 517 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: and they were going to go to Fayetteville and they 518 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: were going to have as good a chance as they've 519 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: had all year to put forth a solid offensive showing. 520 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: And instead they were up thirteen to nothing at the half, 521 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: they gave up twenty four unanswered in the third quarter, 522 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: and their offense just totally and completely stalled. They had, 523 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: like it felt like a nineteen to one run to 524 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: pass ratio that night, so they did not have the 525 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: pop out of the bye week that we may be expected. 526 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: Auburn a couple of weeks ago feels like an eternity 527 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: Ago goes to Ole Miss and they won a close game, 528 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: competitive games. Some would argue it was the wrong outcome. 529 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: Don't care. They got the win. And then they played 530 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: the game Colin is showing you right now against LSU, 531 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: and the explosion did happen, the spark, the pop, whatever 532 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: you want to call it, it did happen, and they 533 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: won forty eight to eleven and probably could have named 534 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,239 Speaker 1: a score up in the sixties if they wanted to. 535 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: One opportunity was missed. One opportunity wasn't missed. Now you 536 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: got people who follow Auburn, myself included, who have followed 537 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: him for a while in the SEC, who were worried 538 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: this entire time if you're not an Auburn fan, in 539 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: other words, and you're gonna have to play them or 540 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 1: you got them still on the schedule instead of having 541 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: already played them. What the worry always is is if 542 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: Auburn doesn't get totally knocked out like the Arkansas game. 543 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: What really aggravated people was not only did Arkansas get 544 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: screwed out of a win, it kept Auburn alive. And 545 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: then you had the Old Miss outcome, and you think 546 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: maybe Old Miss got screwed out of a win, but 547 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: it kept Auburn alive. And you keep them alive, and 548 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: you keep them alive, and you keep them alive and 549 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: then boom it happens. And then all of a sudden, 550 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: once the heats turned up on that program, that's when 551 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: they respond. That's when Malazon's always responded. So if they're 552 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: responding right now, I'm telling you this line is too low. 553 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily that that's what's happening. That's what 554 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: the game's for Saturday. So let's dive into the game 555 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: a little bit because I'm not quite sure what's going 556 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: on at quarterback for Tennessee. I don't think anyone up there, 557 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,360 Speaker 1: possibly including Jeremy Pruitt at this point in the week, 558 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: is sure what's happening. It sounds like he's put a 559 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: plan on the table where multiple guys could start. You know. 560 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: My feelings on this bless the heart of one. Jared 561 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: Garantano don't necessarily think that's the answer this year, and 562 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: so I would love to see Harrison Bailey get a shot. However, 563 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: there's always a valid reason why guys aren't playing more. 564 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm not dumb enough to think I know it more 565 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: than Jeremy Prewet does. So that's just me blindly hoping. 566 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: Right now. I've heard him him being Jeremy Prewett talking 567 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: all week about how they've had really good practices. They 568 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: had an off week last week, unannounced or unplanned, I guess, 569 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: and so they loved what they saw last week. I 570 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: don't know what that means. I don't know what the 571 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: lower standard offensively is right now for Jeremy Prewitt to 572 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: say that about Tennessee. But according to the head coach 573 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: in Knoxville, they feel good about the last several practices 574 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: they've had offensively. Now, the quickest way to test all 575 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: that for Auburn, the quickest way to test that resolve 576 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: is just to get a fast start, and I expect 577 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: one out of Auburn. Malson's famous for it. They're famous 578 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: for fast start and installing. So is the stall going 579 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: to happen? Get to that momentarily, expect to fast start 580 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: from them. I almost think it could be as crazy 581 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: as this sounds, a blessing in disguise for Tennessee. Arkansas 582 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 1: didn't do this to him. Arkansas had a delayed start 583 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: and then they ran past them and made him play 584 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: catch up. I just prefer someone make him play catch 585 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: up all day, because at the very least, that turns 586 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: up the heat early on and they're forced to open 587 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: it up as much as they can open it up. 588 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: And maybe that forces Harrison Bailey on the field and 589 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: maybe through pressure, instead of bursting the pipe, you make 590 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: a really nice diamond down the road. That's the old 591 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: expression that is used, hopefully not in these situations, but 592 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: maybe it has to get that dire. So I expect 593 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: to fast start from Auburn. Would be surprised if Auburn 594 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: wasn't playing with the lead early in this game. However, 595 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: talk to some coaches in the SEC. Talk to them 596 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: about matchup advantages. Here's what they'll tell you. Pru It 597 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: versus Malson match up advantage edge, Tennessee. This is universally 598 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: thought around the South. Everyone respects Jeremy prutz coaching acuten 599 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: everybody values his coaching acumen in his specific style in 600 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: matchups against Malson. It's just a matchup deal. I've heard 601 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: that many many times. So you know what, Colin, Let's 602 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: go ahead and pull up our capsule and then I'll 603 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: talk through it as we look at the capsule. As 604 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: I said, the line on this game currently is Auburn 605 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: minus ten to ten and a half, depending on where 606 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: you're looking. And I don't necessarily know that our model 607 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: has a good read on this. We've got Auburn minus nine, 608 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: so we're kind of right there in line with the 609 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: Vegas number, maybe a little bit shorter than they are. 610 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: Here's why I don't have a good feel on it. 611 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: If Auburn is in that surge mode like they've been 612 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: known to be a time or two or ten during 613 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: the last decade, then this model's irrelevant. It could be 614 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: three scores off. If that's indeed where they are. I'm 615 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: going to trust the model because I'm gonna have to 616 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: make my eyes see it. I'm gonna have to make 617 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: my eyes in other words, see bo Nicks go up 618 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,719 Speaker 1: and down the field on Tennessee's defense like you did 619 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: against LSU's. There's a big difference in that sentence. I 620 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: think you can spot it. I'm going to go Auburn 621 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: to win the game. I will trust our model somewhat blindly. 622 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: There's not a lot of value being putting this pick, 623 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: and I will take Tennessee plus ten. I think it'll 624 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: be a competitive game. I think Tennessee will find a 625 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: way to make that game close. You know, it's just 626 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, two years ago, I think 627 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: it was this was maybe still what you would to 628 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 1: date call Jeremy Prude's biggest win at Tennessee when they 629 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: went into Auburn and won that game. So we'll take 630 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: the Tigers to win, will take the balls to cover. 631 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: Last game I wanted to break down, and then I'm 632 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: going to have a couple of best bets for you 633 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: before we wrap it up tonight. Last game I wanted 634 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: to break down is Oklahoma State at Oklahoma minus seven 635 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: the Sooners, Saturday, seven thirty Eastern time, ABC. This is, 636 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: among many other seasons, this is a period of time 637 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: in a college football season that I like to call 638 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: point spread season. Point spread season goes like this, How 639 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: is Oklahoma favored over Oklahoma State? One's been rated higher 640 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: than the other one excuse me, I intentionally use the 641 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: wrong word. One's been ranked higher than the other for 642 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: the last several weeks. Well, friends, this is the difference 643 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: as we always try and talk about here. How many 644 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: times do we talk about this? There's a big difference 645 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: between being rated and being ranked. Where you're ranked is 646 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: just where a bunch of riders put you, largely awarded 647 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: based on when lose, win, lose, and by default you 648 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 1: move up, move down, whatever. We don't really care about that. 649 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: What we care about is rating power rating, and we 650 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: have not had Oklahoma, to my knowledge, a single time 651 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: in our internal numbers power rated below Oklahoma State, meaning 652 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: at any point this year, if they played on the field, 653 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: we would have picked Oklahoma. So it's fine to disagree 654 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,239 Speaker 1: with that. I have good news for you if that 655 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: sounds wrong. The whole purpose behind the rating with an 656 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: ods maker is they have those ratings because they're going 657 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: to put a number on a game, and here's the 658 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: important part, they're going to put it out on the 659 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: market where you can bet it. So I don't really 660 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: want you to waste a whole lot of time filling 661 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: my inbox talking about how that's wrong. Don't waste my time. 662 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: If they're wrong, they're giving you free money, So go 663 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: take Oklahoma State plus the points, and hey, if they're 664 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: that wrong, I would suggest maybe just a little sprinkle 665 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: there on the money line. So these are my favorite 666 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: types of games. Now, actually getting to the game because 667 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: it's a conflict right now in present schools of thought 668 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve. The present schools of thought are this, 669 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: when you go to Oklahoma State, Oklahoma State is thought 670 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: to be playing and I'm not arguing, I'm not disputing this. 671 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State is thought to be playing good enough defense 672 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: and have been all year to limit or just outright 673 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: contain any offense that they're going to come up on, 674 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: and so far this year that's largely been accurate. School 675 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: of thought. Number two is Oklahoma's offense. While there were 676 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: some struggles early in the year, and there were some 677 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: turnover issues, and there were some growing pains with Spencer Ratler, 678 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: they have finally hit their stride. Now it helps to 679 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: have programs like Kansas to get fat on, but that's fine. 680 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: If they're hitting their stride, they're hitting their stride, and 681 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: those two obviously conflict ideologically which one wins out. Those 682 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: are always my favorite kind of games, especially if you've 683 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: gotten later in the year and you've got a team 684 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: that looks like it's catching its second win. We were 685 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: talking about Auburn earlier. Someone out there, a few teams 686 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: out there are going to do this every year, so 687 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: who's to say it's not Oklahoma this year. Two tidbits 688 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: by the way that I just want to toss in 689 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: those arguments that I just made. First tidbit is the 690 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: thing about this Oklahoma State defense is they've been so 691 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: incredible at getting off the field on third down. What 692 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: you love, or at least I love, when I've been 693 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: watching Oklahoma lately, is the rhythm that they're getting into. 694 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: They're extending drives, you know, moving the chains, the quickest 695 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: way to throw the old crowbar and the bicycle spokes. 696 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: Of that rhythm is getting folks off the field on 697 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: third down, especially early in drives, And all of a sudden, 698 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: you get to the end of the first quarter, it's 699 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: midway through the second quarter, and they've run twenty seven 700 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: plays and you've run nine, and you're asking yourself what 701 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: time of possession? Total plays? Like, a lot of this 702 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: stuff is getting kind of lopsided on us. We can't 703 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: develop any timing in rhythm. We can't really get in 704 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: our groove if we can't get on the field. That's 705 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: what you would hope if you're siding with Oklahoma State here. 706 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: The second thing, though, is, and the reason why I 707 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know that Oklahoma State's gonna be able to 708 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: take advantage of that all afternoon very quietly. I feel 709 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: like Oklahoma's run defense has become pretty strong, and that's 710 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: not something that I was able to say earlier in 711 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: the year. They've been pretty good, and so you kind 712 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: of asking Spencer Sanders in this pass game, I think, 713 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be extending drives on Oklahoma and you're 714 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 1: gonna be controlling that clock and you're gonna be keeping 715 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: them off the field, that's kind of how you're gonna 716 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: have to go about it. Oklahoma State hadn't won this 717 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: game since twenty fourteen. Now that doesn't necessarily matter. I 718 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: just want to talk to you about how significant it 719 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: would be. Tyland Wallace at wide out, speaking of that 720 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: pass game, that's a guy they need to go off. 721 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: It's a guy that Oklahoma circles. It's a guy every 722 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: one circles. Don't care he is a star player in 723 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: this game. That's a guy that has to go off. 724 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: I think he missed the game last year, but a 725 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: couple of years ago had ten cashes for well over 726 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: two hundred yards. That's the kind of day that they'll 727 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: need out of Wallace because that past game's going to 728 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: need to level up a notch or two for Oklahoma 729 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: State to win. Here, Colin, let's go to our game 730 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: capsule for this one, Oklahoma State at Oklahoma aka Bedlam. 731 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: This line's moved. I think it opened at nine or ten. 732 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: It's moved down to seven. We have our number right 733 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: where it opened. See our late kick our in house model. 734 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: We've got Oklahoma minus nine and a half. So we 735 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: agree with what the initial thought was, and now the 736 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: market has dragged it all the way down to seven. 737 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: So where we're going here is we're going sooners to 738 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: win and we're going sooners to cover, especially if we're 739 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 1: getting the number we're getting right here on this Tuesday night, 740 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: which is OU minus seven. So give us Lincoln Riley 741 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: and Company to win, and we're actually going to take 742 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: them to cover as well. And with that in mind, 743 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: arrange my papers. Here we circle back to what I 744 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: was initially talking about to start the show. The Rama 745 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: Noodle Express is at just under fifty nine percent against 746 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: the spread on the year. Phenomenal year so far. We're 747 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 1: looking to continue and it just so happens this week 748 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 1: that we have an inordinate amount of weeknight plays on 749 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: the Rama Noudle Express. Now, Colin is about to show 750 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: you the two that we added today. I added one 751 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: on Twitter earlier today. You missed it, but you're gonna 752 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: get it now. I just hope the number hasn't moved 753 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: at late kick Josh, make sure you're following me there 754 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: so you don't miss any of these. But I've also 755 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 1: got another one to add that we made the decision 756 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: on to pull the trigger on at least a few 757 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: hours ago. So Colin, let's go ahead and show them 758 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: what we have so far. Remember Northern Illinois plus fourteen. 759 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: That game's happening tomorrow night. Our second best bet of 760 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: the week is Ohio State minus twenty and a half. 761 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: That game's on Saturday. Here are the two new games today. 762 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Sarahcuse is an eighteen point dog. They are playing Louisville 763 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: on Friday night, and then air Force is a seven 764 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: point favorite. This is the one we released earlier today, 765 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: air Force minus seven. That is a Friday night game too. 766 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: So we've got three week night games out of the 767 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: first four games we've handed out. It is not necessarily 768 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: our thing, but again, we're not really betting on teams here. 769 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: We're betting on numbers, and if those numbers happen to 770 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 1: correlate with teams that are playing on a Tuesday afternoon 771 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: in the twenty four seven Sports parking lot, then that's 772 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: when it happens. So haven't made a decision on our 773 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: fifth I strongly believe this will be a week we 774 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: have more than five official plays. You're gonna want to 775 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: follow me on Twitter because I can all but promise 776 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 1: you a couple of them are going to come after 777 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: the Thursday show, which is the last live show that 778 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: we do during the week, So follow me at Late Kick. 779 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 1: Josh really appreciate you guys. Just a quick reminder if 780 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 1: you haven't already subscribed to the twenty four to seven 781 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: Sports YouTube channel, we do a lot there that you 782 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: don't see necessarily on this show. We got a lot 783 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: of recruitings. It's a rankings week for us here, so 784 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: there's a ton going on that you don't want to 785 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: miss out on, so subscribe there and also find the 786 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: Late Kick podcast and subscribe and give us a five 787 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: star review on there as well. We will be back 788 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: here same time Thursday night with final thoughts and who 789 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: in the world knows what else could have happened between 790 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: now and then, so we'll have it all broken down 791 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: for you. Always appreciate you tuning in for a director 792 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: Colin or podcast producer Jordan. I'm Josh, babe. Take care, 793 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: have a great night, and God bless