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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with I R Radio. Welcome to the Girls, Tell all

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Speaker 1: the girls room, We're here, and it's it's after the

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Speaker 1: final It's after the final rose, after after the final rose.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. It's after after the final rows.

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Speaker 1: And I am here with a group of Bachelor ladies.

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Speaker 1: I have to my left, all in pajamas and sweat

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Speaker 1: you know, sweatpants and slippers and you know, wine in hand. Dessert.

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Speaker 1: I got Amanda Stanton right there, Hey, say hey Amanda,

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Speaker 1: Hi guys. Then I got Angela, Hey guys, she flew

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Speaker 1: in just for this, just for this girl's party. And

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Speaker 1: then I'm so glad I came having so much fun.

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Speaker 1: Good thanks. Then I got Crystal, Hi, Hi, Tasa, Hello,

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Speaker 1: And Savannah's back for part two of the Bachelor finale

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Speaker 1: recaps on Almost Famous. So I'm going to go in order,

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Speaker 1: except for this one thing. I must start off the

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Speaker 1: bat with Madison Run Far Away, Run Run roung. I

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Speaker 1: am just slightly confused after watching this entire season, especially tonight.

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Speaker 1: Are her Peter dating Um or she like afraid of

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Speaker 1: his mom because I would be terrified. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't really feel like I don't really feel like

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Speaker 1: he was fighting for her the way I would want

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Speaker 1: someone to fight for me. After making all those mistakes,

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Speaker 1: he was like, well, it's going to be And I

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Speaker 1: kind of think she was expecting it because she spoke

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Speaker 1: first and I was expecting him to give more and

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Speaker 1: then he didn't. He didn't even see the date, although

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Speaker 1: he did defend her to his parents. I'm good. If

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Speaker 1: he didn't do that, then I'd be very concerned. But

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Speaker 1: the fact is he's like, we're in love. He did

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Speaker 1: say I'm in love with her. So weird because it

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Speaker 1: was almost like they were like, I'm in love, I'm

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Speaker 1: in love, but then when the word date came up,

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Speaker 1: they got scared. But I don't think she did. I

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Speaker 1: think dtie came out and she was like, I'm in

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Speaker 1: love with him, We're in love. She was so excited

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Speaker 1: and bubbly and like giddy, and it seemed like she

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Speaker 1: was expecting a proposal or like expecting the relationship to

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Speaker 1: be absolutely and when she tossed it to Peter and

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Speaker 1: what like, his remarks were like the challenges, Yes, this

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Speaker 1: is going to be an uphill battle, probably most the way,

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Speaker 1: and you see her just go are you like? She

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Speaker 1: threw up her hands, like are you serious? Like what

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Speaker 1: I thought we were like gonna published ourselves as a relationship.

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Speaker 1: And then we backtrack or flash forward thirty minutes later

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Speaker 1: after his mom jumps in and then he's defending her

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Speaker 1: and defending how much he loves her. But he didn

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Speaker 1: tell Madison that he loved her, not to her. He

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Speaker 1: said it to his mom. And then another thing I

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Speaker 1: noticed when he was breaking up with Hannah. Hannah asked

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Speaker 1: if it had to do with his feelings for Maddie.

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Speaker 1: He didn't say anything about Maddie during the breakup, and

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Speaker 1: he even said a little bit, but not fully mostly

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Speaker 1: like you know, he didn't really say that they're breaking

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Speaker 1: up because of Maddie. And then when Chris Harrison went

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Speaker 1: to talk to Maddie, he said it was because of Maddie.

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Speaker 1: But Peter never really said that we'll get there. M Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to clarify furthermore why I said, Maddie run

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Speaker 1: I need. I think that Maddy needs to run from

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Speaker 1: the entire Weber family because one Peter decided to propose

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Speaker 1: to another woman who he obviously wasn't as in love

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Speaker 1: with clearly, like we know this, he made that decision

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Speaker 1: to just end up with somebody when he had stronger

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Speaker 1: feelings for somebody else, and then this mom it's horrible.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, I'm sorry, I don only even really

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Speaker 1: feel bad saying that. I think the first the first

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Speaker 1: half of this episode, I was like, I wonder how

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Speaker 1: much I'm going to rip on her during the podcast

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Speaker 1: because I feel weird speaking about an older woman like that,

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Speaker 1: a woman older than me. But like the second half

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Speaker 1: of the episode kind of proved to me that I

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Speaker 1: don't really have to feel bad because she doesn't feel

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Speaker 1: bad ripping on someone else. I think that's why maybe

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Speaker 1: I feel like that. That's how I feel because I've

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Speaker 1: always like Ben, like pro his parents because I thought

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Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, it's like Jekyll and Hide.

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Speaker 1: We see this other side, and I get it she's

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Speaker 1: It was feisty, but like you have to sheer than Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's just a ending Peter. She's defending herself to America

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Speaker 1: probably operating out of her root chakra, her fight or

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Speaker 1: and I think being put in that position, I doubt

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Speaker 1: I think she felt coerced into it. Also, I feel

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Speaker 1: second Maddie opened her mouth, her eyes were rolling. Well,

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Speaker 1: what's interesting. As they said that, they go the dad,

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Speaker 1: what's the dad's named Kevin, Peter, Peter. The dad's name

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Speaker 1: is Heatherly Kevin, I don't know, like Kevin was Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Kevin was coming to Peter's dad is Peter, Papa Peter?

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Speaker 1: Okay Pete Um he was saying, he was like, um.

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Speaker 1: She train the thought what was he saying? He goes,

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Speaker 1: there's so much that you guys didn't see, and if

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Speaker 1: you would have seen what we saw you would have

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Speaker 1: a different opinion. So I'm as really curious as we

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Speaker 1: all know because you've all been on the show. You

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Speaker 1: can only there's like a six hours filmed and they

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Speaker 1: show twenty. Right, There's so much that you don't see

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Speaker 1: and then the viewers don't see, And there's so much

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Speaker 1: that happens through the editing process that can completely, you know,

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Speaker 1: manipulate a situation to create an outcome and emotion that

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Speaker 1: want to know, Papa Pete, what do you know? I

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Speaker 1: think we're missing something. Absolutely all said that the whole episode,

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Speaker 1: but then the second episode started, we were all like,

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Speaker 1: are we missing something? Thanks for bringing us back to

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Speaker 1: the beginning. Let's start with that heater facetimes Hannah Ann's

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Speaker 1: dad to ask for permission for her hand in marriage.

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Speaker 1: I walked into this apartment at eight oh three and

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Speaker 1: I see him on the phone with the dad, and

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Speaker 1: you guys go, yeah, he's asking for permission to marry Hannah,

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Speaker 1: and and I go, um, can be rewind what they

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Speaker 1: just re Wait? How are we already? I think that

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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense because we needed to deal with

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Speaker 1: like him telling Hannah and that Madison left. We where

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Speaker 1: was Neia Lane? There was like a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: doors that were missing, and just like even his decision making,

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Speaker 1: like why didn't we see like so many contemplation scenes

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Speaker 1: fight for Maddie. Who knows? Crazy that we start out

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Speaker 1: like that shows that something's missing. Um, sorry for the proposal.

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Speaker 1: And then Chris shows up and he we see what

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Speaker 1: has been teased so much this season. Chris approaches the podium,

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Speaker 1: the proposal podium, the altar, and says, so, I just

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Speaker 1: Hannah and may not show up. What do you guys

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Speaker 1: think was the point of saying that produced? I think

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Speaker 1: it was just to build hype, to be quite honest

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Speaker 1: with you, because she's in the car. No, it's because

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Speaker 1: they it's the last day. We're going to suck a

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Speaker 1: Peter even more than we sucked with him. Seriously, Like honestly,

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Speaker 1: Why would you pull him in the middle of this

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Speaker 1: like monumental moment for him that I'm sure it took

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Speaker 1: a lot of like guts encouraged for him to even

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Speaker 1: they should have waited until Hannah and made her decision

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Speaker 1: not going to go to even tell Peter like that

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Speaker 1: that was even a thing. It was almost like last

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Speaker 1: a Colton season we had the fence jump Hannah's season,

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Speaker 1: it was almost like, oh, we need that one moment

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Speaker 1: Had a thousand and one moments of like uncertaintyam like

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Speaker 1: she's already like why did we need to like string

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Speaker 1: along even more? Like the guy looked like he was

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Speaker 1: I really don't think so, like he had gone through

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Speaker 1: like Madison had left him, and then he's thinking Hannah

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Speaker 1: So so then Chris comes and says she's coming, and

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Speaker 1: Like it's not just Chris Chris Harrison. Chris on set.

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Speaker 1: So then Hannah and is of course emotional walking towards

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Speaker 1: we gotta go back and watch it. But the sound

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Speaker 1: like it was placed in the wrong spot. It was

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Speaker 1: maybe it was like a flint in the wrong spot,

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Speaker 1: because when they talked, she even said, you didn't bring

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Speaker 1: up that Maddie left until you were proposing to in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the proposal, And I was like, so,

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Speaker 1: you know, in another world, I didn't even know how

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Speaker 1: to and can we bring up how could a guy

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Speaker 1: bring up another girl during a proposal? Literally, no way

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Speaker 1: I would ever say yes to propose, Literally two sentences

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Speaker 1: of proposing, like, excuse me, what some of your second choice?

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Speaker 1: There's no way I would have And why are you

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Speaker 1: even thinking about another woman when you're about to ask

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Speaker 1: have asked the context of that of her leaving. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So for you guys to know, here sitting as a

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Speaker 1: stop him right there after that comment and been like, okay,

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Speaker 1: well that was that her decision or your decision when

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Speaker 1: she left and we all said we would want But

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. I think she was just in shock

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Speaker 1: love him? And she was like, no, not yet because

429
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 1: of this thing. And then um, she was like, in

430
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: because of this thing, I probably am not ready to

431
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: accept a proposal. But then we go and see that

432
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Maddie leaves after this, So then you think that Barb

433
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 1: would be like, Okay, props, she knew she left, she

434
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: wasn't ready right then, Why would she still hate her?

435
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: Why she still hate HERR would have like a little

436
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 1: more respect for Matt Yeah, you'd think that. Now after

437
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: seeing that, she was like, oh, you know why because

438
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: she knows that Hannah Ann and Pete broke up, and

439
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: she knows that Maddie was the reason. And Maddie even

440
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: showed up to surprise Peter when he thought he was

441
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 1: meeting Chris. So Mom was filled in and here she

442
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: is thinking like, oh, snap, is my son about to

443
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 1: get engaged to Maddie tonight? Amanda even now, I love

444
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: all these conspiracies. Okay, Well, she would talk about Hannah

445
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: and now and the way that she did slay that breakup.

446
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I've never felt more connected to Hannah and

447
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: than I did when she was breaking up with Peter.

448
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I feel her now, I get her.

449
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 1: She's standing up. First off, She's like, showed so much

450
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: strength and she did it. She was so she had

451
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: a lot of heart when she was doing it too.

452
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 1: She was like, I was here completely for you. I

453
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: think I was going to go through the thickest shit.

454
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 1: I think she was like sassy, but in a good,

455
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: like healthy way, not like a bitchy way, you know

456
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think she came across very

457
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: well read and honestly I feel like she's like an

458
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: inspiration to probably women in America all over because guys

459
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 1: are constantly telling us like I want this, this, this

460
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: your perfect everything, and they just drag us along just

461
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: enough until it's like too late. And I'm glad that

462
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: she's stood up for herself because it's like it's got

463
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: to stop at some point. So I feel like America

464
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: is probably really relating to Hannah and right now I

465
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: know I am. I'm too. I was really happy to

466
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 1: see Hannah Ann really step up because I know throughout

467
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: the season she's felt very youthful, and I definitely even questioned,

468
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, last night on part one of the finale,

469
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: like is she ready to like be engaged, Like she

470
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: just feels very young, And to see how she handled

471
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: the situation and really stood her ground made me really commender.

472
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: I agree with you at first. I feel like in

473
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: that situation, like there's so much going on, it's very

474
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: easy to not speak your mind entirely. And I think

475
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: she hit every you know, bass thought that she needed

476
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: to hit, and I would walk away from the situation

477
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: being like I got off of my chest everything that

478
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: I needed to say, and I feel really good about it.

479
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: I've honestly applaud her for that entire scene because it

480
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: was just well spoken and very articulated, very very much. Yeah,

481
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 1: I was really proud to see that from her, Savannah,

482
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: anything about your friend Hannah, And I mean I actually

483
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 1: have never seen that side of her. Um. You know,

484
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 1: she was always just like the bubbly girl. So to

485
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: see her stand up for herself was really great because

486
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean she needed to in that moment, and um, yeah,

487
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: I just was really proud of her. I think she

488
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: feels probably and I don't know Hannah, but I feel

489
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: like she probably thinks like she took a lot throughout

490
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: the whole season, like she was always giving, giving, giving,

491
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: and not getting anything in return. I think that was

492
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: finally her moment to be like, you know what, like

493
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say my side now and i am

494
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: going to have a backphone and I'm sick of it.

495
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: And I think it was probably like the last straw

496
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: and she just was like, you know what I've done.

497
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: Let's go through some of Hannah Anne's best quotes of

498
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: the night. She says to him, torn and conflicted, Peter,

499
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: you took the most precious moment from me because you

500
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: selfishly did not want me to walk away, and then

501
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: she says that she can't look at him anymore. She

502
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: needs a man that is true to his word. She says,

503
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't need anything more from you. You've done enough damage.

504
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: She hands her ring back and says, and I mean that,

505
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: and then she goes, you betrayed me. I need to

506
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: get my life back on track now the way it

507
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: was before. All this so good she came with it.

508
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: I know, man, it makes me wish I was better

509
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: at at moments like that breakup. I was like, I'm like,

510
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: obviously I've never gonna I'm not gonna go through right up.

511
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: But but but it's like the next fight I have with jaredman,

512
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: if I could just talk to him like that, that

513
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: would be fun a rebuttal. He was just like, I

514
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's what bothered me actually about

515
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: this season is that I was so rooting for Peter.

516
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: I was so excited when he was announced the Bachelor.

517
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: But with every episode we've watched, he has said fewer

518
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: and fewer words, and he will just sit there and

519
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 1: let people talk to him without even like responding and

520
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: even letting it register. It's like he is so afraid

521
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: of his of what he's going to say and how

522
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: his words can be used against him, that he just

523
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: doesn't want to say anything. And you can just see

524
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: him so in his head. And I know that because

525
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: I think back to that like infamous moment I had

526
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: with Bebiana when she Mike dropped me and I sat

527
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: there because like what people don't know is that, you know,

528
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: they told me, They're like, hey, are he's done, He's

529
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: getting ready to he's finishing an interview. You want to

530
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: go in for the just seem real quick? Before the

531
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: roadstar many about the start. I was like, of course

532
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: I do, and um I went in. He was sitting

533
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: with Babyona talking and like I was lied to. And

534
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: so when Babiona came out, I went up to her

535
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: and I go, hey, are you okay, Like I just

536
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: want you to know, like I didn't know you were

537
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: with him, and she like freaked out on me, as

538
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: we all saw, and I just sat there for rozen

539
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: in fear, just like, oh my god, I know exactly

540
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: how this is going to play out, and as it

541
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: was happening, I was like trying to grasp the reality

542
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: of the situation. So anyways, I saw that in Peter,

543
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to be like, part of my

544
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: heart really goes out to him, you know, because I

545
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: was in that situation. I want to be like, this

546
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 1: is your story, don't let anyone write it for you.

547
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: Stop being in your head, like feel with your heart

548
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: and be present and like and make these decisions from

549
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: a heartfelt place. So I think, looking back, I'm sure

550
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: he has. I'm sure he has, like he said, made

551
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: a million and one mistakes and has had an extremely

552
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: experienced situation for him to grow from. Um. But I

553
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: really feel for him. I really do it as a

554
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: soft spot in my heart. You can tell that his

555
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: family comes from a lot of love and a lot

556
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: of emotion, and as much as that's a good thing,

557
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: I think that in this situation, it was probably one

558
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: of his biggest flaws because he was trying to please everybody,

559
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: and honestly, that was exactly it. He was just trying

560
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: to He was honestly just trying to make everybody else happy,

561
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: all the girls, the family, the producers, not himself, every

562
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: single person but himself, and not even doing this story

563
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: for himself. This is not his journey. He was conflicted.

564
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: You were every way because no matter what. Girls in

565
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: front of him. He was like, I want to help you,

566
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: like I want you to be it, like you're my

567
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: person hero everyone exactly. So I feel like he kind

568
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: of shot himself in the foot. How do we feel

569
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: about bar but clapping for Hannah and and sort of

570
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: abandoning her son in that moment during the live show. Wow,

571
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Peter. But at least she like,

572
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't know even as I mean, she's she's more

573
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: team hand hand and she is her own son. I

574
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: think that perhaps maybe she felt like she needed to

575
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: choose a side and she'd already made a choice and

576
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: wanted tip. Maybe it was like a choice driven from

577
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: ego where she's like, hey, I could I stood by

578
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: Hannah Ann and I'm going to follow through with that,

579
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: And maybe part of her was like perhaps she should

580
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: waive her a butt. There was some like pride in there. Yeah,

581
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: but also Hannah Anne had great points, so like how

582
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: could you not comment her? What? I mean, like she

583
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: like shut that beep down, you know what I mean?

584
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: I think everyone was clapping. Yeah, all right, we're gonna

585
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: take a break, and when we get back, I want

586
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: to talk about how this season finale was different than

587
00:31:52,960 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: Ari or Jason Mesnis. Okay, so we have another bachelor

588
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: who has now flip flop between their final two. First

589
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: there was Jason Mesnick about eleven years ago, then there

590
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: was already two years ago, and now here we have Peter.

591
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: This season is a little bit different though, because in

592
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 1: the other seasons, the lead the bachelor went after his

593
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: runner up, and in this case, I guess Maddie wasn't

594
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: technically his runner up, right, this was a girl that

595
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: left him. It's also different because in this case the

596
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: bachelor didn't go back for her. Chris Harrison went on

597
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: on his behalf and then in the other cases they

598
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: both ended up in marriage with the runner up. And

599
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: in this case, it doesn't even seem like we can

600
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: commit to a relationship date yeah, and we're not even

601
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: committing to a date yeah, cofee, Like there is no

602
00:32:54,280 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: mentioned going well, kind of left wondering, like after finishing

603
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: the show tonight, I'm like, what even happened? What's going on?

604
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Like I feel like there wasn't like a concrete ending.

605
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like any closure, that's it? Like,

606
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel a little bit disappointed in

607
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: the finale, just because I wanted more answers, and I

608
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: feel and I mean, it's totally fine they don't have

609
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: their stuff figured out. I would rather than you know,

610
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: trek lightly than jump into something. But I'm still like, oh, okay,

611
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: like what's not already that happened? Okay? Cool. I don't know,

612
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: I feel weird, I guess, but I feel like I

613
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: started getting a little like like she's personal, Like I

614
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: didn't want to watch it anymore, Like it was just

615
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: like y'all got to kill each other. Yeah, I don't

616
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: want to call my husband out, but like he's been

617
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: saying for the past couple of weeks, he's like, I

618
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: think Peter is just like kind of a playboy, didn't

619
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: really have the intention on settling down this early in life.

620
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: And I think the past couple of weeks have really

621
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: shown that that might be true, especially with his family

622
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: talking about his lifestyle yesterday, don't. I don't know, So

623
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: like part of me is feeling like maybe Peter just

624
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: is like ready to be single again and like be

625
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: done with this bachelor life. Who's with me? Peter is

626
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: really over Hannah Brown? No, apparently not, because that needs

627
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: to be addressed. Yeah, I don't. Hannah Ann infers that

628
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: he reached out to Hannah by for closure in the

629
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: midst of their engagement. Why is gonna be thinking he

630
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: asked her to reach out. I think that's what she

631
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: was saying. Why would he feel even asked reach out

632
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: to Hannah Bee? But why is that necessary? You're in age,

633
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: you don't need to be like you shouldn't need to

634
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: do that. You do that before, Amanda. Why do you

635
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: think that he's like maybe still wanting to be on

636
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: that single track? I just think so far it seems

637
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: like he kind of wants what he can't have, So

638
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: he like was chasing Maddie because she left, and then

639
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: when he found out Hannah might not show up to

640
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: the road ceremony, then he proposes, and then as soon

641
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: as he had Hannah, as soon as he has Maddie.

642
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. I felt like him and Maddie's body

643
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: language and everything was just kind of off tonight. I

644
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: couldn't really tell if he was still as into it

645
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: as we thought he was. Interesting is the scene that

646
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: we saw that was taped about a month ago out

647
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: here in l A when Maddie surprises him by that pool.

648
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: It seems like they're both genuinely into each other, very

649
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: excited to see each other. We had that, we we

650
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: sensed that closeness again really to me. Yeah, but then

651
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: he saw that. Yeah, but he watched the same thing too.

652
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: I saw Bashville too. Did he like sweet like he

653
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: couldn't like he couldn't like their foreheads were touched and

654
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: while they were talking like and what they were saying

655
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: was intimate. I agree with you there, but he would

656
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 1: he could not look her in the eyes, Maddie, if

657
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: you would like watch it back. Maddie kept looking up

658
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: at Peter like while he was talking. While they were talking,

659
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: he never looked back. I started, I'm sure he's embarrassed.

660
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: I have Yeah, I have to go back to what

661
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: Nanda said, because amandamate an amazing point. She goes he

662
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: wants and he doesn't have. And I want to add

663
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: onemart point because we saw it tonight with a finale,

664
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: because Maddie came out and she goes, I love Peter,

665
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: I want to be with Peter. His response, probably not

666
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna work out, and then his mom, you know what,

667
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison, he goes, do you love Maddie? And then

668
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: he goes yeah, like pause, and then he say yeah,

669
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 1: and then mom barbed jumps in and tears Maddie down,

670
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: and then Peter defends Maddie and says he loves her.

671
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm just like what Chris Can asked Peter to interfere?

672
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: Wasn't he like, Peter don't have something to say? Peter

673
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: didn't just go ahead and say it on his own, right, Yeah,

674
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: so it was like he had to be asked, which

675
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: would kind of bother me. But I mean maybe it

676
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: was like that tonight because his parents were there watching

677
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: and he was trying not to be into Maddie because

678
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: of his parents. But still, like Peter's in an awkward

679
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: spot no matter what. But I feel like everybody is

680
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't want to be anybody I don't want to.

681
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Peter and hero asked man. Despite his actions,

682
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: he is a grown ask man and he put himself

683
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: in this position. And you know what, overbearing mom or not,

684
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: it's up to him to say, Mom, here my boundaries

685
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: and I need you to respect them, and it's his

686
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: job to uphold those boundaries. But I do think he

687
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: kind of defended himself to his mom. He did, he did,

688
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: he said, I need you guys to listen to me.

689
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,240
Speaker 1: He said that, And I think it's because he probably

690
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: watched he was there last night and she got you

691
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it was just a

692
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: bad episode last night. I think he's just so torn

693
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: in between, like wanting to defend his mom because obviously

694
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: he loves his mom, but he's like, come on, she's

695
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: like kind of being unreasonable. So, speaking of the mom

696
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: being unreasonable, we talked earl. We yeah, we talked earlier

697
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: about the fact that, um, you know, Madison says, you know,

698
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: this is a relationship is a two way street. This

699
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 1: is my journey as well as his journey. I signed

700
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: up for this for love, and he signed up for

701
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: this for love. And then the mom responds, and this

702
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: is what we haven't discussed yet. She says, this crazy shit.

703
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: She goes, She goes, He's just going to have to

704
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: fail to succeed and all his family and friends and

705
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: know that this will not last. And you guys, how

706
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: embarrassed is Mr Peter right now? He had his head

707
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: down the whole time. This is going to cause marital problems.

708
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna want to look at his wife for like

709
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: weeks because she's like embarrassing herself. I think there's like

710
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: a place opinion. I totally get that as as like

711
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: as parents voice your opinion and your concern, but after

712
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: your child is like, listen, I've got this, this is

713
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: how I'm feeling. Then back down. You don't have to

714
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: sit there and tear down Maddie that. When when she

715
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: said that, I was like my mouth dropped. I was like,

716
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: did she just really say that? No way is it

717
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 1: okay to rip people down? And for her to sit

718
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: there on stage at the finale online television and speak

719
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: to Maddie that way, you know, I'm just like, what

720
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: did Maddie do? Maddie has only come across as a

721
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: very kind, respectable woman, Savannah, you have anything else to

722
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: say about I think she's just threatened by her I

723
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't know how the old tomatum like

724
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: like this is stemming around the whole ultimatum thing, right,

725
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: Like what else did Maddie do nothing? So like for

726
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: her to have like so much animosity towards her, it

727
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: just doesn't make sense. It's like there's That's why I

728
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: feel like there's something missing. It's that you know, Annie

729
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: doesn't party doesn't dream, doesn't have sex. Peter does all

730
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: those things, and his parents no obviously, And I think

731
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: her mom was just like, I don't want a woman

732
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: to come in and change my man, like right, I

733
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: think I'm sure I was talking. I was with Rachel

734
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: Lindsay yesterday and she was talking. She's like, Barb is

735
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: my mother in law. Like I get, it's like the

736
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: Latina mother in law. It's very overbearing, very strong, and

737
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: they feel very threatened by the women coming into technically

738
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: take over her role within Peter's life. I was going

739
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: to say, it seems very monster in law, where it

740
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: is like some weird thing of like almost jealousy, like

741
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 1: there's a very territory. And I think that she actually

742
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: saw that Maddie had that power because she goes, if

743
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: Peter will change, he'll leave me. Oh she did say that.

744
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: I mean she didn't say it pretty yeah, right, I

745
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: mean does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, That's kind of

746
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: why I felt like Hannah and would just be like

747
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: go along with that addition easing. Yeah. I think like

748
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: Maddie wants to start her own thing outside of that,

749
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: and I think Hannah and well, maybe this is just

750
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: how his mom perceived it, but like maybe she just thought, okay,

751
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: like Hannah and she'll just like fall in and you know,

752
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: maybe we'll all live together in the house. And like

753
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: she really go by Hannah and or did she just

754
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: goes by Handah because she has handed from Alabama just

755
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: like the other handed from Alabama. She's Kinnese. But yeah,

756
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: I think she just didn't want to be another Hannah

757
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: that Hannah and is maybe an add on um. The

758
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: last thing that I wanted to add there is I

759
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: called my sister really quickly after the finale and I'm

760
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: just like, can you believe Barba? Like I can't believe this?

761
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: And then she goes. I think she might be the

762
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: most villainous villain we've ever seen on the show. There's

763
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: our villain villain has no idea like how it all works,

764
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: like they were showing her constantly to do some really

765
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: bad Apparently I'm crossing the line? Am I crossing the line?

766
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: I feel I just have no idea. Getting ready to

767
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: say I think Barb has no idea because like I

768
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: don't think she realizes like how like the producers work

769
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: and like that the cameras are on her at all times,

770
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: Like I don't agree. I think most people who aren't

771
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: on the show, which Barb technically wasn't realized, like you're

772
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: you're being watched like no matter where you are. So

773
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: I feel like she probably isn't realizing, like everyone's watching

774
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: her like a hawk now and she's just getting like

775
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: brutalized for it. But also like after last night, I

776
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: can't I can't speak for her tonight because after last night,

777
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: like I feel like she got a taste of it.

778
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: You should have a little bit. I don't say this.

779
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a mom or a family member

780
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:53,439
Speaker 1: that has been brought in that has been completely either

781
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: I feel like a family member hasn't had really that

782
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: has been we just don't know it, Like Barb doesn't

783
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: know that there's a little square of her face like

784
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: she didn't know. Like I feel like they did barbed dirty. Yeah,

785
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: but you know that she talked to a producer earlier

786
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: and they prepped her just the way they wouldn't normally.

787
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: There's no way I would react like that, So they

788
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: probably didn't. You think they did. I don't think that did.

789
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: And she went along. Isn't that the best game? That's

790
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: the best I know who said that? Yeah, her Rild

791
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: literally something was actually said tonight and I was like,

792
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: that sounds like some in someone. I know there's certain lines,

793
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: especially the corny ones. That person didn't come up with it,

794
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: And so all right, well, is there anything that you

795
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: guys can think that we didn't cover that was gigantic?

796
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: I just still feel like there's a puzzle piece missing.

797
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: I com completely agree. I feel like there's to be

798
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: a bonus episode. Yeah, there's so much missing. There was

799
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: just so many holes, so many holes. Is that because

800
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: we didn't get a three hour finale or is that

801
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: making us was that intentional to make us feel like

802
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: a sense of emptiness in the end of all that?

803
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: It just feels very unfulfilling. And it's surprising because I

804
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: know that The Bachelor really is about finding love and stories,

805
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: and I mean, this ending was just I mean, what's

806
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: sad is that this is kind of how a lot

807
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 1: of relationships go. Yeah, and they didn't fantasize it. They

808
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 1: just showed a very raw, real truth. And I think

809
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: a lot of us just have this expectation of what

810
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: we want a fairy tale to be, but the reality

811
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: is that fairy tales don't exist. And I think we

812
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: saw that tonight. This is the third season now the

813
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: we're not getting a traditional ending. Yeah, I just didn't

814
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: feel the fields this season. You know. I feel like

815
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: it was hard to connect with a lot of the girls,

816
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: and then with the finale, I wasn't. I was just like, Okay, Savannah,

817
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: how do you feel about the flag that your season

818
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: has been getting. I'm not gonna lie, it's kind of

819
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: embarrassing just because, like you know, I'm lumped into that

820
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: even though I wasn't that kind of person on the show,

821
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: so you know, and then I do get frustrated. Like

822
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: looking back, like I said earlier today, it's like it

823
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: is frustrating to know that like he did give in

824
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: to all of this. Um, I don't know. I just

825
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: didn't feel like he was easily swayed by other people,

826
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: and you know, he was manipulated and I don't know,

827
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: it just it all just is really frustrating to watch,

828
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: do you think. And I'm sad. I wanted, you know,

829
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: I really wanted him to end up with Maddie just because,

830
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: like I said, like that love was like undeniable, but

831
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: then we just saw it just doesn't it didn't feel

832
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: like that love was there anymore, And so it's just

833
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: kind of like you're just saw sad. You just want

834
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: the happy ending to the you know, maybe Peter was

835
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: just so defeated that he had no love to give.

836
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,720
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, but he was so hopeful in the beginning.

837
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: There's no way. I just feel like there's has a

838
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: lot to do with it. But that was the beginning.

839
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: With September, it's March been through a lot. I mean,

840
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: imagine Hannah be coming in the beginning months. I think

841
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: I said this is somebody yesterday. I honestly and I

842
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: have no idea, but this is just an inference. I'm wondering.

843
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: I feel like ever since Hannah By showed up in

844
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: the season, he has been different. Like I'm wondering if

845
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: she never showed up or they brought her on or

846
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: however that happened. Can I just say, I feel like

847
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: it maybe it would have gone a little differently there

848
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: on that So on night one even it was like

849
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: shifted and it was like so like right when I

850
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: got out of the limo, um, you know, I did

851
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: like the whole blindfold and made out with him, and

852
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: he was even like I kind of pulled back and

853
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: he just like went in even harder, and yes I was,

854
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, anyways, um, yeah, so he was great like

855
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: in that moment and like you could just you know,

856
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: you could just see it in someone's eyes, like they're excited.

857
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: And and then the second time I talked to him,

858
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: it was right after he had talked to Hannaby, and

859
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: it was like the life was like sucked out of him,

860
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: like he just yeah, it was like he was smiling,

861
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: but like his eyes weren't smiling, like he just wasn't there.

862
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: Like it was just like his mind was with Hannaby,

863
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: Like he kind of got choked up when he came

864
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: to talk to us, and it was just I don't know,

865
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: I did feel like he wasn't over her. And then

866
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: when we saw her again on our second or on

867
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: our first group date, I was just like, this guy

868
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: is not over her. And I think he really tried,

869
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: but ultimately he just didn't find the person that was

870
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 1: better for him than Hannaby. I also have to say,

871
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: you guys have to realize how much the bachelor slash

872
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: Bachelor goes through every single day, like you really don't

873
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: have time to process things. And when he said at

874
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: the end of episode he's like I had two days

875
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: to process what just happened with Madison, And like, sure,

876
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: you have two days and you could have talked to her,

877
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: but like you just realize, like that person that you

878
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: were in love with just like left, and like you're

879
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: supposed to just jump into another one kind of thing.

880
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: You to get what I'm trying to say, It's just

881
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: it's just a lot for someone to go through, especially

882
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: in and the two days weren't Peter's situation because Hannah

883
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: didn't end up with anyone, so I think he still

884
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: had that lingering hope that could end up together. And

885
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: the two days were in black days, they were feel

886
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: still coming at interviews he had he had his final

887
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: day with Hannah, and two in those two days because

888
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: I think can Anne's date was after. So it's just constantly, Yes,

889
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: you sign up for that as a bachelor, and I

890
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: understand that, but it's like you have ten minutes to

891
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: make a decision and emotionally stick with it. So like

892
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: I feel bad for him, Like you know, so I

893
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to be any It's just a lot. What's

894
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 1: crazy is that I Peter was the golden child. I

895
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: mean they wanted him to be Ben Higgins two points.

896
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: That's what I kept saying, and he became Yeah. I

897
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: just hope that Peter has a support unit to really

898
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: help him over the next couple of months, that he's

899
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: not going to fall into party or bad old habits

900
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: and really has like a healthy support unit to um,

901
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: you know, like rebuild himself and find himself. And I

902
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: think we all we've all been through this process. We've

903
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: all gone through the show. We've all had moments that

904
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: we wish we could take back or change or be better.

905
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: And I'm sure right now he's just running those all

906
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: through his head, like God, if only I could have

907
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: changed out one thing, the one thing that would have

908
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: been him not sleeping with together too, could you imagine

909
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: what the season could have ended like? So much further

910
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: than that, I think so absolute, reolutely. I think it

911
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: goes back with him feeling strong in his own two

912
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: feet and feeling completely confident in his own decision making abilities.

913
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: I think when people yeah, no, I think that I

914
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: think he doubted himself and maybe doubted his ability. He

915
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: was ripped from you know, Barb's breast to be the Bachelor,

916
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: and you're like, you know, he's like Mommy, No, I

917
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: didn't say that. I like joke, but but really I

918
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: think that he maybe didn't know, um really what he wanted,

919
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: and maybe he wasn't in a position to make that decision.

920
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: I think people forget that, Like we were saying, like

921
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: we've all been through the show, so we get this,

922
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: And that's why I think people forget viewing at home

923
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: that like, everybody makes mistakes. Ours are just filmed for

924
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 1: America to judge. So like when people I like, I

925
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: don't want people to be harsh on Barber, I mean ours,

926
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: but they're healthy, vis But like, I just think I

927
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: think it's it's people forget. You know, they were talking

928
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: about online bullying lass you know, during Women Tell All.

929
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: But like everyone makes mistakes and Peter has even said

930
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: he's made a hundred mistakes during the season, but like

931
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: a million in one. Yeah, but ours are just filmed. Yeah,

932
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: and we all have a lot of sympathy for going. Yeah,

933
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: I know. I can't even imagine what their social media

934
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: looks like. Oh no, I don't even wanting It's not fair.

935
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I can't even imagine. I hope

936
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: they're not reading it. They really should, like go on

937
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: a foreign vacation the whole family for a while. Corona,

938
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: Well they're stuck here. Oh my gosh, away Hanada. Does

939
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: this mean that barbs going? Do we think it's weird

940
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: that they didn't give Peter and Maddie um a little

941
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: happy couple date after they reconnected. I thought that was

942
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: very strange. They may have way to sidency know that

943
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: it was the first time that they each other, if

944
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: you really wanted to. I just don't know. It wasn't.

945
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: I was just Amanda speaking, I said. I think that

946
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:13,880
Speaker 1: that was kind of weird to me too, that they

947
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: hadn't seen each other since that day, because they probably couldn't.

948
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: I just don't know if Peter knows. My only thing

949
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: is that maybe they wanted it to be so awkward.

950
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: They wanted the after the final rose to feel like

951
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: it did, and they knew that if they were to

952
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: get a weekend together that they probably would be bonded

953
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: enough in order to be like, yeah, we're in a relationship.

954
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: Or were they really just afraid that they'd be exposed

955
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: because they tried so much to control the leaking, the

956
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: mole of the Bachelor and the spoilers coming out, So

957
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: maybe there was that element too. We gotta take one

958
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: last break. When we come back, I'm going to get

959
00:52:54,760 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: an update on these girls lives. Stay tuned. All right,

960
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: let's go down the row. Angela, what's the status with

961
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: your love life? Um? I am single, and you know,

962
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm going on dates and talking to people and having fun.

963
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: Nothing nothing concrete. Still haven't found a guy I think

964
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: I wanna stick with for a minute. But I'm still

965
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: super hopeful and as always, you guys know, I'm the

966
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: hopeless romantic and uh yeah, but I'm still single and

967
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: just working on my YouTube and traveling and just doing

968
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: all the things. So I'm just having some like me

969
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: time right now, and honestly, and it's great, Amanda. Your

970
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: sister just moved to l A and you've been spending

971
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: more time out here, right. Yeah, So we got a

972
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: place together up here. It's so nice. So when you're

973
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: not with the girls, you hang up here. Yeah. And

974
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: then when I'm working up here, I have a place

975
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: up here, and then I still have my place in

976
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Orange County too, so the girls will come up here

977
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: and stay with me sometimes too. Nice And yeah, it's

978
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: been good. Do you have another life up dates? Gross? Um?

979
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: Nothing really. So my clothing line just launched at Bloomingdales,

980
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: which is exciting. Not really, I have clothes up Bloomingdales.

981
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Lonnie the label love from Me. I love

982
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: your stuff. It's so cute. Thank you. So that's exciting,

983
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: But nothing really other than that. That's really incredible. That's

984
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: pretty big news. Um. Okay, So Crystal, Um, what's the

985
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: status with you and Chris? Now? Are you guys like

986
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: speaking on a regular basis? Um? Anything you're open to sharing? Yeah? No,

987
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: thank you for asking. Chris and I are, you know,

988
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: still best friends that really love each other and we

989
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 1: talk every single day and the last I think it's

990
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: been about a month since we separated. It's interesting because

991
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: I was telling Angela, I just felt such a happiness

992
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: and sadness, and guy slept on his side of the

993
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: bed every night. And we had a really huge breakthrough

994
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: about a week ago where we realized there was just

995
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: so much um projection that was going on with each

996
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: other and where we really had to just take this

997
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: time to understand and work through things within ourselves before

998
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: we could really show up for one another in a relationship.

999
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: And so we've decided that we are going to be,

1000
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, living apart but kind of coming back together

1001
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: in a way that's almost like dating again, conscious recoupling. Yeah,

1002
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: something like that. And out of the media because I

1003
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 1: think there was just so many, so much opinions about

1004
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: our relationship, and I think that was really difficult to

1005
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: have so much, so many people saying so many things

1006
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: about opinion eating the relationship. So we just had to

1007
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: peel it back and that we're in a really good place.

1008
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: That's great. I'm really really happy to hear that. Thank you.

1009
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: How how the dog has been, Oh my god, they

1010
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: think they be Mommy's little voice. And Tasia, I feel

1011
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: like the most recent rumored thing about your life is

1012
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: that you were in the running to be the Bachelorette.

1013
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: I feel like you were like one of the top

1014
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: three girls in the running. Yeah, and um, anything you'd

1015
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: like to share about that, UM, Aside from the fact

1016
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm actually really happy it's Claire, I feel like, um, honestly,

1017
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: we both probably have like the same the same objective. UM.

1018
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: In my interviews of talking about possibly being the Bachelor,

1019
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 1: I've always said, like, I really want to bring it

1020
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: back to what bachelor was originally to me and that

1021
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: was what it was a couple of years ago, and

1022
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: really just finding love and like getting away from this

1023
00:56:54,360 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: stupid drama and social media crap. And um, I love

1024
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: is such a beautiful thing and I feel like you

1025
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 1: can really find your person if you really take it seriously.

1026
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: And I'm actually really excited for Claire. I think she

1027
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: is not gonna take any bullshit, which I'm excited for.

1028
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: She's gonna have older men, which that's exciting because that

1029
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: means they're going to be added to our pool people

1030
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: like no offense. Like I tried the younger thing, but

1031
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: like the older thing might be cool too. But UM,

1032
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just really really excited for her. Okay,

1033
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: that's so nice. That's really nice. I genuinely feel like

1034
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 1: you feel that. No, definitely, it's not. I'm not just

1035
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: saying that just to say that. Were you a fan

1036
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: back in the day. Um, to be honest, Claire is

1037
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: new to me. Really. Yes, So I started ben season, Um,

1038
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: but my girlfriends had watched it every single monay. Say

1039
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: I've heard them for years talk about Bachelor and all

1040
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: this stuff, and um, when I did kind of binge

1041
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,439
Speaker 1: watch it, I was like, this is actually really cool,

1042
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: and I feel like Benez really in it. Jojo found

1043
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: her true love in it, you know, I mean like

1044
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: it was just like a really good, I don't know streak. Yeah,

1045
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I mean also Rachel

1046
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: found love back of found love, but it's just lately

1047
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: it's gotten kind of out of hand. Yeah. Alright, well, guys,

1048
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: I think that concludes our Bachelor finale podcast and that

1049
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 1: makes me so sad. Lastly, Savannah, have you heard about

1050
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: a possibility of you being in Paradise? I hope, I am. Okay,

1051
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: so I know that you were a little shy this

1052
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: time around, but you're still wanting to go and do

1053
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: the process again. Yes, I think, Um, you've got some

1054
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: time to think about it. Yeah, I know, I think.

1055
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: I just like, really I need to talk to you all,

1056
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: like I just need um some guidance, I think. And

1057
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: but I mean I do believe it works and I

1058
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: want to find my man. So yeah, give me a

1059
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: good opportunity. It works better than going to a random bar.

1060
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: I think your odds are higher because if you do

1061
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: like the math on it, it's like, okay, so you

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Speaker 1: put that many people in a ball would like one

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Speaker 1: couple come out of that bar married at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day. Like, no, there's a lot of like

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Speaker 1: minded people. Yeah, is there anyone from a previous season

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Speaker 1: you would love to meet in Paradise? M honestly like,

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Speaker 1: I there's not, really, Yes, there is, Yes, there's There

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Speaker 1: was one guy that I thought was really really cute

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Speaker 1: and he actually is kind of talking to one of

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Speaker 1: my friends, so I'm like, okay, well he's aliding into

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Speaker 1: the d MS already. Yes, and he kind of lived

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Speaker 1: by me too. That was like perfect. But when you

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Speaker 1: live really close friends, where do you live? I live

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Speaker 1: in Houston? Houston, Mike, wasn't Mike Mike's Texas? Oh my god?

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Speaker 1: Is it Connor? Her eyes twitching? We're gonna end that

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Speaker 1: this podcast on that t all right, you guys. It's

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Speaker 1: been a blast doing this the past day, recapping the

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Speaker 1: most dramatic Bachelor finale of all time? Truly, truly? Right?

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Speaker 1: I mean, is that? Is there any doubt to that? No? Alright, Well,

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Speaker 1: we thank you guys for being here and joining me,

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Speaker 1: Angela for flying out, Savannah for you know, also flying out,

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Speaker 1: and um. We will be back next week with a

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Speaker 1: non season episode with an update apparently. Are you gonna

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Speaker 1: get some Harrison updates for us to him? You already

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Speaker 1: talked to Harrison today about about whatever just happened within

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Speaker 1: the three hours they wrapped the live show. So we'll

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Speaker 1: be coming will be coming to you with that news

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Speaker 1: next week. We love you guys so much, and we

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Speaker 1: miss Ben so much that he's been away and having

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Speaker 1: a bad WiFi connection on the road. We'll get it

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Speaker 1: together one day, um, but until then, I've been Ashley.

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Speaker 1: I'm Amanda. I've been Amanda. I've been Amanda, There we go.

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Speaker 1: I've been Angela, Crystal, I've been Chrysten. I've been christ

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Speaker 1: Thank you, I've Fantasia, and I've been Savannah. Thanks best by.

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