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Speaker 1: It is Week fifteen of the NFL season and the
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Speaker 1: off from talking yesterday. Did you get some rest, Isaiah?
Speaker 1: I never get rest. Kyle. I was about to say,
Speaker 1: were you up again? At five am? I actually went
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Speaker 1: That's why you didn't answer my phone? Well, I got
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Speaker 1: You got to shut it down. My wife actually got
Speaker 1: someone's wrong with me. She was like, you, Okay, you're good.
Speaker 1: I guess I just got sleep. Something I'm saying exactly exactly, Patrick,
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Speaker 1: to make some days yesterday. I mean, we really made
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Speaker 1: those conversations. So absolute wonderful Happy holidays to everyone who
Speaker 1: was able to come out. Yeah, it was really really
Speaker 1: a fun day and it's one of the best days
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Speaker 1: Of course, had the skip because of COVID, but back
Speaker 1: again this year. That was on Monday, so it's a
Speaker 1: week full of service for the Cowboys organization. Shoutouts credit
Speaker 1: to those upstairs that kind of set up and run
Speaker 1: the whole deal and the partnership between the two. But
Speaker 1: absolutely Salvation Army doing some fantastic work up in the
Speaker 1: North Texas area. We've got something to talk about, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Since the last time we were on the air, We've
Speaker 1: got a couple of things to talk about, don't including
Speaker 1: a new wide receiver in the fold. I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: say anything about myself. Oh I stand back. He signed
Speaker 1: laden because he heard about the injuries there. There's an
Speaker 1: injury history. What do you have to say about that one.
Speaker 1: You know, it's logistics game. Russes different veteran wide receiver
Speaker 1: and brit saw you walking, go get out. You're not
Speaker 1: supposed to be here. Uh. T Y Hilton, veteran wide receiver,
Speaker 1: four time Pro bowler, is now a Dallas Cowboy. He
Speaker 1: signed for the one year deal back on Monday. Monday
Speaker 1: afternoon was when the deal came down. Surprise, surprise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it kind of came out of nowhere. But also there
Speaker 1: was a little bit of smoke from the off season.
Speaker 1: There was some talks there initially, but he never signed,
Speaker 1: never went anywhere. So into start our news and notes section, Patrick,
Speaker 1: what do you think about the the t Y Hilton signing?
Speaker 1: I really like it for what it is. T Y
Speaker 1: was a name that I myself was kind of tapping
Speaker 1: the table for, not necessarily pounding the table, but tapping
Speaker 1: the table for back in training cam back earlier in
Speaker 1: the offseason as as a target that the Cowboys should
Speaker 1: look at. This is a guy who's only two years
Speaker 1: removed from almost having eight hundred yards and five receiving
Speaker 1: touchdowns for the Coats in the final season of Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: And for those that are you know constantly wondering, oh,
Speaker 1: what about his injury history. Well, if you go back,
Speaker 1: he played fifteen games in that season. I'm talking about
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. He played. He had nine starts in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, and he's had plenty of time to get
Speaker 1: one hundred percent and rest up before being, you know,
Speaker 1: possibly a mercenary for the Cowboys at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1: This was a guy who at one point was in
Speaker 1: the conversation for it. Could he be a potential Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer And he's coming in. Yes, he's thirty three,
Speaker 1: but he's not being tasked with being the number one
Speaker 1: wide receiver or number two wide receiver. And then Noah
Speaker 1: Brown is still going to get some reps at number three.
Speaker 1: That's going to aid and t wise durability UM and
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy himself said, all times where a goal, he's
Speaker 1: ready to go. He passed everything with flying colors as
Speaker 1: far as the physical medical reports. So I love the move.
Speaker 1: I love the move. I love the move. I love
Speaker 1: the move. What do you think, guys are I'm not
Speaker 1: against it. I'm interested to see him on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's really what I'm to see this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see him on the field. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know there were some some murmurs at least internally
Speaker 1: here amongst our analysts. We were talking about the potential
Speaker 1: of him when when the receiver position was lacking earlier
Speaker 1: in the season. We kind of put some put some
Speaker 1: little uh, I don't know what we do, what you
Speaker 1: want to call it, but we did a little homework
Speaker 1: and got some insight, and people were pretty much saying
Speaker 1: that he had fallen off, that he had slowed down,
Speaker 1: he wasn't what he used to be, obviously nobody really
Speaker 1: is at that age, and but that he wasn't really
Speaker 1: in a position to contribute in a major way to
Speaker 1: a to organization, which is why he hadn't signed with anywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why the Colts hadn't signed him back. So I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see if those reports are true. There's one
Speaker 1: thing between rumors and reality, and I'm looking to see
Speaker 1: watch him trying to prove those people wrong. You know what.
Speaker 1: I wonder though, to your latter point, because as we
Speaker 1: all know, free agency is a two way street. It
Speaker 1: could have reasably been because Ersay and Ty still have
Speaker 1: a fantastic relationship, but it could have been a situation
Speaker 1: where you see things went wrong with Carson Wentz and
Speaker 1: then they make this blockbuster trade for Matt Ryan, but
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan didn't look fantastic in his final year with
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. Couldn't have been a situation where ty
Speaker 1: I looked at it and said, well, you guys haven't
Speaker 1: been doing so great with quarterbacks recently. Let's see how
Speaker 1: this plays out, and we'll revisit midpoint in the season,
Speaker 1: where then you fast forward to midpoint in the cold
Speaker 1: season and tis probably like absolutely no head coach, no
Speaker 1: stability a quarterback, absolutely not and then you know, fast
Speaker 1: forward he falls right into the Cowboys lap. So that,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the scenario as well it could be.
Speaker 1: And the only thing with me and I credit Mickey
Speaker 1: Spagnola for this, that's how committed I think Mickey. Mickey
Speaker 1: makes me laugh because one of the first times I
Speaker 1: was ever on Talking Cowboys, I was at it was
Speaker 1: as an analyst or no I was hosting that show.
Speaker 1: But then but then Mickey, we were talking about free agency,
Speaker 1: and we were talking about somebody that could be available,
Speaker 1: and his big question always, always always is why is
Speaker 1: he out there? That's the question you have to answer,
Speaker 1: why is he out there? And to the point where
Speaker 1: sometimes it gets very annoying to hear that it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we signed a good player, he's gonna help us football team.
Speaker 1: This is one of those where it's why was he
Speaker 1: out there at this point in the season. He's been healthy,
Speaker 1: he's been been able to contribute at some point in
Speaker 1: the season to some NFL team, but he's not even
Speaker 1: been in a camp. He hadn't even been in a roster. Well,
Speaker 1: for me, it's the same question that you could pose
Speaker 1: with someone like Admic and Sue right Sue, Sue was healthy,
Speaker 1: But there are these veteran mercenaries who are you know,
Speaker 1: thirty plus years old, who are fully healthy, who are
Speaker 1: just sitting there waiting to see what a good situation
Speaker 1: is because they're not the ones that are likely to
Speaker 1: go through a full training camp. You know, Jason Peters,
Speaker 1: for example, he didn't sign to go through training camp.
Speaker 1: He was being ramped up on the back end of
Speaker 1: the preseason going into the regular season. So at a
Speaker 1: certain point, when you have established yourself as such a
Speaker 1: valuable veteran who still has some trade left on the tires,
Speaker 1: even if you're not necessarily your prime. You're going to
Speaker 1: have some value, especially if you're fully healthy, and that
Speaker 1: gives you at least some leverage to be able to
Speaker 1: see how the season plays out and see which one
Speaker 1: of your potential several suitors has the best fit for you.
Speaker 1: I'm confident that the Cowboys and the Coats weren't the
Speaker 1: only two that were interested in the side of t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton. But if you look at it from the
Speaker 1: perspective of t Y Hilton, Okay, who at this juncture
Speaker 1: might give me the best shot at getting to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and getting the ring in twenty twenty two?
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have a fantastic shot at doing that. Sitting
Speaker 1: at ten and three, only a couple games out from
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, with a dominant defense, so forth and
Speaker 1: so on, a franchise quarterback, dominant backfield. You got your
Speaker 1: top two receivers. I mean, it's not just situation, a
Speaker 1: much worse situation that you could get into. Yeah, good situation.
Speaker 1: You just don't seem very excited about it. Is it
Speaker 1: because of the temperate expectations? Because he's not expected to
Speaker 1: come in and be a I mean, I'm not excited
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. We don't know what he's
Speaker 1: what position he's in right now physically, we just don't know,
Speaker 1: right I mean, we're hoping that he's You don't think it,
Speaker 1: just like we talked about with Odell Beckham, You don't
Speaker 1: think they did their due diligence to figure out whether
Speaker 1: or not he was ready to go. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't disregard that, nor do I question
Speaker 1: their ability to do their due diligence. I question a
Speaker 1: receiver's ability to come in and fit in a system
Speaker 1: that isn't just because of a receiver skill doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that they could just come in and get and get
Speaker 1: dumped into a system effective. Absolutely the same question, o
Speaker 1: bj Not only that you don't have the most accurate
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league right now on your team. So
Speaker 1: and then that's once that's my second concern. My third
Speaker 1: concern is by bringing in more receivers, what does that
Speaker 1: now due to mister Kellen Are who got away from
Speaker 1: the run last week when the run was still being
Speaker 1: in a Yeah, So like that's that was on my
Speaker 1: concerns and James Washington's back Tolbert, I'm sure I doubt
Speaker 1: if he finishes the year. Yeah, exactly. So, I mean
Speaker 1: there's a lot of concern. I'm not excited because I
Speaker 1: have nothing to be excited about. I haven't seen it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm excited. And when I say excited, it's it's tempered,
Speaker 1: and it's much like I said in the mail back.
Speaker 1: I think the mailback went up on yesterday. Um, what
Speaker 1: should the expectations be for t Y Hilton? And you
Speaker 1: should have some a little bit of excitement and optimism
Speaker 1: as a fan base, but temperate, respectfully because you haven't
Speaker 1: seen it yet. But you also have to see how
Speaker 1: it fits over the next several games. So temperate and
Speaker 1: also understand that this isn't the t Y that was,
Speaker 1: you know, racking up consecutive thousand yards seasons. But if
Speaker 1: this is the t Y that got almost four hundred
Speaker 1: yards a year ago and three touchdowns, if you can
Speaker 1: drop that into this mix, then it does infect fit perfectly.
Speaker 1: But I mean to just this point, you just have
Speaker 1: to see it. But I believe that it can work. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I fewer way fewer questions or t why than I do.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I look forward to it. I'll put it
Speaker 1: that way. I don't want to seem like I'm not
Speaker 1: in any form excited. I if he can be who
Speaker 1: who he has been on film in these in these
Speaker 1: years that we've known him to come, come and no
Speaker 1: to why Hilton And absolutely that's a great freaking signing.
Speaker 1: And you know what right I mean? But this doesn't work,
Speaker 1: then if it doesn't the weapons. But my biggest thing
Speaker 1: is this, This organization understands that Dallas is gonna have
Speaker 1: to put up points. That's that's the bigger picture. That's
Speaker 1: to me, that's the that's what this is spotlighting. We
Speaker 1: recognize we're gonna say some freaking points. You know. It's
Speaker 1: it's no quinkydink that you lose two of your that
Speaker 1: you lose two of your starting defensive backs and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden now you're looking to add more offense. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: your things don't just fall into plays like that like crap,
Speaker 1: all right, we're hurting that one position. We might have
Speaker 1: to score more, might have to get out there because
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some big plays, maybe given up because
Speaker 1: you don't have Anthony Brown, because he don't have Jordan Lewis.
Speaker 1: That's something to keep in mind. Who has more pressure
Speaker 1: on them to make t Y work because you mentioned three,
Speaker 1: three aspects to it, t Y himself, Dak Prescott, Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: those are the three areas that are going to allow
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton to be successful as a cowboy who's
Speaker 1: under the most pressure to get the job done? Or
Speaker 1: who do you who do you think is? I can't
Speaker 1: even ask it the other way. I'm gonna put it
Speaker 1: on Dak. And the reason I put it on Dad
Speaker 1: because Dak has to find continuity now with the James Washington,
Speaker 1: and he has to find continuity with a Ty Hilton,
Speaker 1: all while he's never thrown a football, all while not
Speaker 1: losing the chemistry that he already has established with a
Speaker 1: CD and Noah and these other guys. Like it's a lot. Man.
Speaker 1: People think that you could just plug and play. You
Speaker 1: can't just plug and play. You when you go out
Speaker 1: there and you're you're so dependent on on nonverbal communication,
Speaker 1: when you're so dependent on just reactionary things, you're I mean,
Speaker 1: when you start dumping new guys in there, it doesn't
Speaker 1: just flow like that. You hope, you hope that it
Speaker 1: flows like that, but the reality is, and you need raps, man.
Speaker 1: It's a reason why you're starting in OTAs. It's a
Speaker 1: reason why you're starting to spring, so that you can
Speaker 1: build that chemistry, you can build all those communications. Way
Speaker 1: lends all those things so that when you get to
Speaker 1: these games, you can look at a guy, give him ahead, nod,
Speaker 1: and you guys are on the same page. Now you
Speaker 1: have to look at a guy and give him some
Speaker 1: sign language or the receiver next to him has to
Speaker 1: tell him something, and it slows. It slows everything down,
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, he may not be
Speaker 1: exactly where I want him to be. He may not
Speaker 1: know exactly where I'm trying to put the ball at.
Speaker 1: There's a lot, mister Timmon, and obviously there's a good
Speaker 1: bit of pressure on Dak to make it work. But
Speaker 1: for me, the most pressure is on Kellen Moore. Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore is going to have to show that he can
Speaker 1: scheme up this many receivers without getting away from establishing
Speaker 1: a dynamic run game that they've already proven that they
Speaker 1: can do. It's on Kellen Moore to make sure that
Speaker 1: the matchups are favorable for not just t Y Hilton,
Speaker 1: but across the board as he has been tasked with doing.
Speaker 1: And if he can do that for me, that makes
Speaker 1: the pressure on Dak Prescott secondary because then for Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott it's just about it's not about keen in on
Speaker 1: any one receiver. It's about seeing who has the better
Speaker 1: matchup pre snap, and then that's your first read, and
Speaker 1: then as it goes, as the play goes, you go
Speaker 1: progress throughout the reads if that first read is not there.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's it starts with where's t Y
Speaker 1: lining up? How many reps pery game is Ty Gilding getting,
Speaker 1: how many times is he called to be the primary
Speaker 1: target on any given route, so forth, and so on,
Speaker 1: And then it's on Dak Prescott to drop back and say, okay, matchup,
Speaker 1: Ty has the better matchup than CD, or CD has
Speaker 1: the better matchup, or Gallup has a better matchup than
Speaker 1: the other two. And that's kind of where it rolls
Speaker 1: downhill for me. But it starts with the offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: It definitely does. I think Kellen Moore is under pressure
Speaker 1: to make it all work together. But is it a
Speaker 1: bad problem to have an extra receiver in the fold?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not, And t Y Hilton could add some clarity
Speaker 1: to a room where your veteran wide receiver is Noah
Speaker 1: Brown and James Washington like, those are your two veteran
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Even more so, I guess you could throw
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup into the fold there too, But those are
Speaker 1: the guys in your room that have done the most
Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position right this second, however, t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton adds to that he has twice as much
Speaker 1: experience nearly as a lot of the guys in the room,
Speaker 1: So I think that aspect too, it works out as well.
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Speaker 1: going to take this first segment. While we're waiting on
Speaker 1: a call here, Patrick, there was some practice squad news.
Speaker 1: It was it's not official yet but just rumored for
Speaker 1: an addition to practice squad if accurate, and it'll be
Speaker 1: confirmed here at some point today, but if accurate. UM
Speaker 1: nose tackle veteran nose tackle Anthony Rush has apparently joined
Speaker 1: the Cowboys practice squad. And this is per Anthony's ig
Speaker 1: story that he posted on yesterday, and just a quick
Speaker 1: background on him. He's only twenty six, so he used
Speaker 1: the word veteran loosely, but at the same time, he's
Speaker 1: a bit of a journeyman. He's had more importantly, or
Speaker 1: I should say more notably, he's had three stints with
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, so maybe some inside knowledge against the
Speaker 1: top adversary in the division and conference on the way
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. We'll see who they decide to release
Speaker 1: from the practice squad because obviously they're jam pack there,
Speaker 1: so you gotta delete one to add one. So and
Speaker 1: nose tackle wise, No, No, Jonathan Hanks, Jon Hankins. So
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones said on yesterday to one or five point
Speaker 1: three if him the fan that Jonathan Hankins, if he returns,
Speaker 1: it'll it'll be for the playoffs. He does not for
Speaker 1: see Jonathan Hankins returning before the playoffs. Still a good
Speaker 1: chance that it is for the playoffs. It's not worst
Speaker 1: case scenario, which is great, sounds like it. It is
Speaker 1: what is alleged, which is maybe a pick strain and
Speaker 1: not a torn pick, which would absolutely end his season.
Speaker 1: But if you go back you look at when the
Speaker 1: injury happened, it's easy to see how it happened. In
Speaker 1: his arm got contorted back by the falling ball carry
Speaker 1: and it kind of went from there. So Cowboys, Hankins
Speaker 1: was starting to do some work in that interior and
Speaker 1: now he's out for the rest of the regular seasons.
Speaker 1: You saw it too when it happened. You saw it
Speaker 1: initially live end game. Isaiah goes up, that's a pack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's done. How big of a loss us major? Man?
Speaker 1: He was starting to really play well. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: really starting to play well. He was moving line into
Speaker 1: the to the in the negative in terms of in
Speaker 1: the backfield of running backs and as he was a
Speaker 1: big reason why this defense was starting to have such
Speaker 1: a turnaround in rush defense. I mean, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say it's solely him, but he was having a huge
Speaker 1: impact in that in that regard, that's why they brought
Speaker 1: him in. I mean, and that was one of the
Speaker 1: underrated signings I think of the entire season up to
Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, because it got looked over because when
Speaker 1: they brought him in, it was right after the first
Speaker 1: two hind yard game. They brought him in again. And
Speaker 1: they brought him in and then in another two hundred
Speaker 1: yard hits irb I was like, oh, well it didn't work,
Speaker 1: and then it just then it just got better. Right
Speaker 1: then team started averaging less than ninety yards a game
Speaker 1: against Dallas all of a sudden, and they had to
Speaker 1: start going to the air. And now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you start seeing turnovers. He's a big reason that they
Speaker 1: had a bit of a fortuitous timing and to win.
Speaker 1: Hankins suffered this injury because he suffered it in the
Speaker 1: first game back after a couple of games. Snis for
Speaker 1: Quentin Bohanna, So at least, at least they're not without
Speaker 1: Hankins and Bohannah right now, Bohannah having returned from that
Speaker 1: knee injury, so they still have made no mistake. Nobody
Speaker 1: was doing what Hankins could do. Agree, I mean, you
Speaker 1: have other players though. Agree. My point is that the
Speaker 1: big body boy that you need in the middle, uh
Speaker 1: that you had in Jonathan Hankins, you got another one
Speaker 1: you're able to drop back in. And Bohannah was having
Speaker 1: a really effective season before. He's missed a couple of
Speaker 1: games after the buy with that knee injury, but he's back.
Speaker 1: So at least my point is, at least you're not
Speaker 1: without either. And then now we'll see what Anthony rush
Speaker 1: kN provide. If anything. Hopefully Bohannah learned some things from
Speaker 1: Hankins too. You're having a veteran come in. Bohanna had
Speaker 1: never really had that the guy that would walk in
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins is probably the closest thing. But Watkins isn't
Speaker 1: that big bodied run stuff for multiple gap guy like,
Speaker 1: That's what Bohannah and Hankins style is different than anybody
Speaker 1: else on his defensive front throw like in terms of
Speaker 1: his ability to actually grab boast that was the biggest size.
Speaker 1: I would say he's a great pred next closest size,
Speaker 1: but style wise, I would say, but, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not the same point. Hopefully, he picked up
Speaker 1: some pointers and much much like the situation, not entirely dissimilar,
Speaker 1: not the same, but not dissimilar. I just want Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith and Tyron Smith and Jason Peters. Tyler has the
Speaker 1: benefit of being able to learn from those those guys.
Speaker 1: But in the role that Quintin is set to play,
Speaker 1: he didn't have that necessarily, Yeah, he didn't. He didn't
Speaker 1: have a template. I just I just want to I
Speaker 1: just I just want to temper the expectations of those
Speaker 1: that are listening to think that, Okay, one guy's gone,
Speaker 1: he's dropping another big man in there. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: the same. It's not. It's not the same style now
Speaker 1: at all. Isaiah loves tempering expectations, real man, better than
Speaker 1: exactly exactly facts. All right, let's take some calls from
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys Nation, starting off with Dan O in Florida.
Speaker 1: What's up you're on Talking Cowboys? Dan? Good morning, guys.
Speaker 1: How are you doing doing great? How about you good?
Speaker 1: Two things I want to say. The first thing telling
Speaker 1: Moore is you know this I'm the job training all
Speaker 1: we read about at times as well. He's still learning.
Speaker 1: He's still learning. This hasn't going on for three years
Speaker 1: or so. And in any other position, if you're in
Speaker 1: the corporate world, if you don't got your job done
Speaker 1: between six and twelve months, you're out of there. And
Speaker 1: I think he you know, I looked at some of
Speaker 1: the past patterns he runs, and you know, you got
Speaker 1: two receivers in the same area. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's not the receiver or you know, in his patterns,
Speaker 1: but I do think McCarthy's got to sit on him
Speaker 1: a lot more, and maybe they got to give back
Speaker 1: a lot more freedom. I don't know how much freedom
Speaker 1: Dack has, but to me, you know, Kellen Moore is
Speaker 1: not the answer. I get the fact he was a
Speaker 1: college quarterback, and I get the fact he was a
Speaker 1: pro quarterback. That doesn't necessarily translate to being a good coach.
Speaker 1: And I'll just wait and hear what you guys have
Speaker 1: to say about that. The other thing is on the
Speaker 1: old line. You know, this is a stretch drive. You
Speaker 1: got to play your best five. Josh Wall shouldn't even
Speaker 1: be in that conversation, my opinion. And I think you
Speaker 1: know you've got Kyrone coming back. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can fuck him at right tackle, kick
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith out the right tackle, or play Jason Peters.
Speaker 1: And I think I think I read that there little
Speaker 1: concerned Peters may not have enough gas. If that's the case,
Speaker 1: to find some other combination, my opinion, find some other
Speaker 1: combination with those guys. But Josh Wall, he can't be
Speaker 1: out there. So hang up and see what you guys say.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to the Jaguar game. So there you go.
Speaker 1: Get loud whoa oh when you're on Cowboys podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that's what they're gonna be hearing out there.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna yeah, I don't want to. I don't wanna
Speaker 1: thank you damn for the call, appreciate you. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that one thing on the You're on the
Speaker 1: wrong airwaves to be saying that, Uh okay, let's let's
Speaker 1: set the Callen Moore thing first. Isaiah, you parked up
Speaker 1: a little bit whenever he said that. I just thought
Speaker 1: it was funding that he said that he shouldn't in
Speaker 1: a corporate royer. He's not wrong, he's not wrong. But
Speaker 1: this is not corporate. No, it's not. That's kind of
Speaker 1: where I was gonna go. Very much so relationship based.
Speaker 1: And when you've been in a part of an organization,
Speaker 1: organization loves you, you're gonna have all the time in
Speaker 1: the world that they want to give you to figure
Speaker 1: things out. And I think that while he's figuring things out,
Speaker 1: and while he's gaining wisdom and insight from McCarthy and experience,
Speaker 1: he's becoming a better officeive coordinator. I don't think that
Speaker 1: he's ever been a bad offensive coordinator. I think he's
Speaker 1: been really good OFFICEI ave coordinator, and I think he's
Speaker 1: continuing to get better. He still has his vices, much
Speaker 1: like all coordinators do. No matter if your special team's
Speaker 1: offense or defense, you're gonna have your things that you
Speaker 1: kind of your crutches that you kind of go back
Speaker 1: to and he's figuring those things out. We don't like
Speaker 1: when he starts trying to air to things out, but
Speaker 1: let's understand his foundation. You know, it doesn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if if you go to as much counseling as
Speaker 1: you want to handle your issues, you still got to
Speaker 1: do with those issues from time to time. So that's
Speaker 1: his vice and he's figuring it out. There are a
Speaker 1: couple of things that I look at with Kellamore's offense
Speaker 1: and I don't love, and Dan actually pointed one out.
Speaker 1: There was the dual receivers and very similar routes that
Speaker 1: happens way too much, where two guys are running the
Speaker 1: same route and they're right next to each other, or
Speaker 1: they're convoluting things and it's just a real confusing pattern
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it leads to an interception.
Speaker 1: I feel like four interceptions this year. I can go
Speaker 1: back and look at him one including this past week
Speaker 1: against the Texans, where it's been two guys in the
Speaker 1: same area. One was against Green Bay, two guys in
Speaker 1: the same area. It happens way too much, and if
Speaker 1: that continues to be a problem, then why are you
Speaker 1: still doing it? I agree and I'm of the mindset
Speaker 1: I believe Kellen Moore is a good offensive coordinator, and
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent of agreeance with Isaiah in that
Speaker 1: the times in which you question him is it's always twofold.
Speaker 1: It's either one it's a situation like that where it's like,
Speaker 1: why why was this schemed up this way? Pre snap?
Speaker 1: And the other is why'd you get so cute when
Speaker 1: all you had to do is punch him in the mouth.
Speaker 1: And the second part of that goes to just he's
Speaker 1: a former quarterback and he's gonna always have that itch. Hell,
Speaker 1: he said it. He told you that if you if
Speaker 1: you were up to him, he would throw the ball,
Speaker 1: you know, sixty plus times a game. But he understands
Speaker 1: he said it tongue in cheap because he understands that's
Speaker 1: not how you're gonna win games if you're coordinating the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But to your point, dan Oh, you would like to
Speaker 1: see Mike McCarthy kind of sit on him more often.
Speaker 1: And that's actually been happening, literally in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: more so then previously in their relationship. That's why the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have recommitted to the run game. That's why you're
Speaker 1: seeing more Tony Pollard on the field at the same time,
Speaker 1: and or in of Ezekiel Elliott to the point where
Speaker 1: the snap counts might be in Polar's favor depending on
Speaker 1: who's winning their matchups on any particular week. This is
Speaker 1: all influence from Mike McCarthy. So I believe that Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore is a good offensive coordinator, but I believe that
Speaker 1: he's improving because of Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott. I
Speaker 1: finally to answer the question as far as how much
Speaker 1: power Dak Prescott has at the line of scrimmage. Tons, Yeah, Tons,
Speaker 1: so no doubt, no doubt. Let's go to our second caller,
Speaker 1: Arley in Connecticut. You are on Talking Cowboys. How's it
Speaker 1: going good? How are you guys doing great? Thanks for
Speaker 1: the call, but I love a call. I just remember
Speaker 1: being a kid and the first time I turned on
Speaker 1: the TV, I had on NBC and O. J. Simpson
Speaker 1: was onto. My dad said, turned to CBS, that's who
Speaker 1: you watch, and that was The Cowboys. That was nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy six, and so anyway, my thing is this is
Speaker 1: that people keep asking me why is Dallas trying to
Speaker 1: get another wide receiver? Why are they trying to get
Speaker 1: another receiver? And I keep telling them that if any
Speaker 1: one of those guys goes down, it's a major drop off.
Speaker 1: There's nobody And I think the reason they're looking at
Speaker 1: ob j and the reason that they're looking at t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton is just to have some kind of bounce
Speaker 1: back if one of those guys goes down, don't have something?
Speaker 1: Do you guys agree with that? Yeah, thanks for the call,
Speaker 1: appreciate you as always, But Patrick, you want to start
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I think I'm right there too, one
Speaker 1: hundred percent. This is a it's an occupational hazard in
Speaker 1: the game of football that you're slapping, you're throwing yourself
Speaker 1: at other bodies who are throwing themselves at you, and
Speaker 1: injuries happened. Knock on Wood. You don't want to see
Speaker 1: it happened, but it happens, especially at this point in
Speaker 1: the season and in the playoffs. And what you can't
Speaker 1: have happened is you go into a game or a
Speaker 1: playoff game it's win or go home, and you lose
Speaker 1: one of your top receivers and then the wood should
Speaker 1: have could us, Oh well, we could have had a
Speaker 1: t Y, But we were all set at the time.
Speaker 1: We could have tried OBJ and see how that went.
Speaker 1: But we're all set at the time. You can't have it,
Speaker 1: especially when you see what the Eagles are doing. Oh,
Speaker 1: nobody's questioning the Eagles. Their defensive line was already stout,
Speaker 1: but then they kept dropping guys into it. And then
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, they see the Eagles blueprint, the Rams blueprint.
Speaker 1: But when the Cowboys try to do it, hashtag keep
Speaker 1: that energy. When the Cowboys try to do it, it's
Speaker 1: why are they doing this? They're already sid You're never
Speaker 1: as sad as you think you are, because when the
Speaker 1: playoffs come, somebody's going to go down and you hope
Speaker 1: it's not a key player, but if it is, have
Speaker 1: those extra players to jump in and say I got you,
Speaker 1: I got you, I agree with you, and I agree
Speaker 1: with him. This is the front office being proactive. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is this is what people ask front This is
Speaker 1: exactly what people ask for. This is Will McClay and
Speaker 1: everybody else that's in the scouting department doing their homework
Speaker 1: and positioning this team to be in the best, our best,
Speaker 1: best position to seek out the opportunities that are gonna
Speaker 1: be president when the playoffs are present themselves. Not only
Speaker 1: is this a depth move and an addition of hankins
Speaker 1: and addressing particular areas of concern. This is a matchup move.
Speaker 1: So when you start facing opponents, understand all players don't
Speaker 1: present the same opportunity based upon an opponent. Sometimes there's
Speaker 1: gonna be better to have a Ty out there. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it's gonna be better to have Noah Brown out there.
Speaker 1: James Washington, you want to have the flexibility to position
Speaker 1: yourself to be able to address whatever weakness that defense provides,
Speaker 1: or whatever area you're talking about offense, defense, special teams. Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to be able to address that area with
Speaker 1: the best game plan possible. And so a lot of
Speaker 1: times the best game plan is the best personnel. So
Speaker 1: if you're going into every game with the same personnel
Speaker 1: thinking that you're going to beat every team with that
Speaker 1: same personnelity, your chances are probably not going to be great.
Speaker 1: So this is a good move. If he is what
Speaker 1: he has been in the past, This is a great
Speaker 1: move for depth, and this is a great move for
Speaker 1: versatility because now your last two additions at the receiver
Speaker 1: position now come in light of speed, pushing things down
Speaker 1: the field and now stretching defenses and who has been
Speaker 1: over the past year. You know, not necessarily this year,
Speaker 1: but last year your main guy was who Dalton Schultz? Okay,
Speaker 1: Dalton was your guy? All right, Well you saw Dalton
Speaker 1: have his resurgent last week. How can you get him
Speaker 1: the ball more? How can you get more highly accurate passes,
Speaker 1: get the defense to back up? Well, now, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you have a James Washington that can push
Speaker 1: things down the field. You have Michael Gallup that has
Speaker 1: the legs underneath them. Now you have a Ti t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton that could push the secondary back, and now
Speaker 1: you're asking linebackers to cover your underneath coverage. It's a
Speaker 1: good thing. When you started tooking looking at matchup, it's
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs formula. Yeah, that's right. Just throw
Speaker 1: as many speed, speedy, handsy receivers and quality tight ends
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey obviously at the opposing defense as possible in
Speaker 1: waves to the point where on any given week you
Speaker 1: know Kelsey's going to go off. But as far as
Speaker 1: what receiver's gonna go off for the Chiefs when anything,
Speaker 1: you never know, and that's respects. That's what the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are trying to set themselves up to be. I will say,
Speaker 1: right now, let me ask you this question, t Y Hilton,
Speaker 1: Jayalen Tolbert or Vant Turpin in a formation, which one
Speaker 1: you're taken in the formation and its offensive as no
Speaker 1: and as an offensive mind, who would you rather put
Speaker 1: out there t Y Hilton? If Ty is what he's been,
Speaker 1: even if he's not, even if he's half of what
Speaker 1: he's been, I can't. I can. I'm going to go
Speaker 1: to t Y on this because I'm going to go
Speaker 1: to the veteran savvy, the ability to read coverage pre snap,
Speaker 1: to be able after the snap, to know how the
Speaker 1: leans work on the defensive backs. This is not to
Speaker 1: say someone that Turpin who had he's a rookie, but
Speaker 1: that's air quotes. But nonetheless, he doesn't have the experience
Speaker 1: that that Hilton does. Jalen Toilbert absolutely doesn't have the
Speaker 1: experience at that t Y Hilton does. So again, t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton is fully healthy, says the Cowboys medical staff,
Speaker 1: says Mike McCarthy. Give me that, and the mental savvy
Speaker 1: of the veteran who's a decade plus, who has several
Speaker 1: thousand yard receivers, who has lined up against the best
Speaker 1: defensive backs in the NFL, timing again and in his prime,
Speaker 1: being able to say, hey, if you lean this way,
Speaker 1: I know which way you're shading, so forth and so on.
Speaker 1: Who can help read coverage and then look, I could
Speaker 1: deck Prescott and say hey, HiT's up. So their levels
Speaker 1: to this. So for me, out of those three hand
Speaker 1: down Tyin. All right, let's go to our next callar
Speaker 1: Brian and Denver. You're on talking Cowboys, last caller of
Speaker 1: the day. Brian, how's it going? Hey good, thanks for
Speaker 1: taking my call. Guys, what's going on? I just I
Speaker 1: had a quick Zeke stack that I wanted to share
Speaker 1: that I came across because he's on my fantasy team
Speaker 1: when I was happening to be looking at his game log.
Speaker 1: So after the Texans win on Sunday, the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: now nine and ozero. When Zeke gets fifteen or more carries,
Speaker 1: what do you know? It's fifteenth carry against the Texans,
Speaker 1: the touchdown, the ball, don't the ball, don't lie boys,
Speaker 1: and real quick, real quick. Patrick. I've been following you
Speaker 1: for years and years, man, in your life story is
Speaker 1: a true inspiration and it should give people hope and
Speaker 1: I just appreciate you. But but saying all that in
Speaker 1: an outspet, Oh stop, wow, Beamer block that phone number. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you? Yeah, good, good for you, Good for you. No, man, dude,
Speaker 1: he just he he puts you up on this pedestal
Speaker 1: and then he just drove you into the ground. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I still love you. But you know what, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know because Okay, everyone deserves a second shape. So
Speaker 1: the next time you call in, um, let's let's try
Speaker 1: to grow from that very very poor take. I love
Speaker 1: how proud Beamer was. Beamer gotten so quick onto the
Speaker 1: micaset I just hung up on him, Thank goodness, fantastic santas.
Speaker 1: A lot of that is because when he gets fifteen carries,
Speaker 1: you're salting a game away. I mean, and this is
Speaker 1: a conversation that's been a thing on Cowboys Twitter for years.
Speaker 1: I think is the the amount of games that you
Speaker 1: win whenever Zeke hits x amount of carries. It's not
Speaker 1: necessarily the cause of the wins, but it does help out,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Because when you can run the
Speaker 1: football as effectively as you have been, you're gonna win
Speaker 1: some games. You're gonna win some games. This effect absolutely
Speaker 1: all right, let's take our second break. When we come back,
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