1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Also media, welcome to take it up. And here a 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: podcast that is I don't know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna speak for the rest of my hosts who 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: aren't here so they can't stop me and say that 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: this is a podcast normally opposed to brunch. I'm your host, 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: Miya Wong, And today we are talking about something that 7 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: we kind of haven't been covered, we haven't covered as 8 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: much as I think we should have, which is unionization 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: in small businesses. We've talked a lot about unization and 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: sort of larger things. We've talked about sort of mid 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: mid sized chains. But today we're talking about the unionization 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: of a place called Friday Egg I'm in Love in 13 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: Portland's which it's it's if if if you sort of 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,279 Speaker 1: imagine the platonic ideal of what do you think a 15 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: place called Friday Egg I'm in Love is going to 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: be like it is in fact that And with me 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: to talk about this is Soul and Janey from the 18 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: Friday Egg Workers Union. Yeah, both of you, welcome to 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: the show. 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having us. 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm excited to talk about this partially, you know, 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean as you've sort of discussed a little bit 24 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: because I want to get into a bit later the 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: specific dynamics of sort of small business union stuff. But 26 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: first things first, I wanted to sort of talk about what, actually, 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: you know, how did you all decide to unionize, because 28 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: I think this is a bit different story than the 29 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of thing we usually get on this show. 30 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely well, I've been at this particular restaurant since twenty 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: nineteen and it's been something that's come up every now 32 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: and then. I think we're just a very queer workplace. 33 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: We're a very leftist workplace, and we tend to have 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: a lot of common ideals. And I feel like what 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: makes our unionization effort unique or maybe not unique, but 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: just different than a lot of like we need to 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: start a union right now all kind of efforts is 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: there wasn't a thing that caused it. We were all 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: like me and five other people were just sitting around 40 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: a table and decided, Hey, we should just start a union, 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: and so we kind of looked into what that looks 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: like and the snowball started rolling downhill. 43 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is something I think is really interesting 44 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: because you know, I mean, one of one of the 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: things you get really commonly in sort of like anti 46 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: union propaganda. You see this, like I so a lot 47 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: of my family were engineers, right, and engineers do this 48 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: all the time where they're like, oh, we don't need 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: a union. We're like happy, we're well paid, everything's great. 50 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: And then you know, you look at you, you look 51 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: at what happens to them, and it's like, oh, well 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: now you have boeing Right, It's like, well, you you will, 53 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: you will, you all never organized, you no longer have 54 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: any power in your planes are like falling from the sky. 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, this this is a I'm gonna I'm taking this, 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: taking my soapbox moment to be like you two out there, 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: even if your job is good, at some point it's 58 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: going to not be and you should unionize first before 59 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: they i don't know, like be google and decide that 60 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't be evil. Actually constrains them from making money 61 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: and decide to be evil, So get get out ahead 62 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: of them before. 63 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree. 64 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 3: More absolutely, this has felt very, very proactive. I haven't 65 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 3: been there nearly nearly as long as some of my comrades, 66 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: but the general like consensus is that like things are 67 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: pretty good. So instead of letting things go bad. Let's 68 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: let's make you know, major steps to protect what we have, 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: especially as like you kind of notice how this small 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: business is slowly, slowly starting to operate like not a 71 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: small business mm hm. 72 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: And we had a one of our food carts was 73 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: upgraded to a brick and mortar at the beginning of 74 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: this year, and pretty much that in that moment that 75 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 2: that started operating as a real restaurant, it things really 76 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: clearly I think started setting in that like that this 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: is a bigger operation than it used to be, and 78 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: they very like the owner very much still has the 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: intention of making it as good of a place to 80 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: work as he can, which is to be appreciated. But 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:33,239 Speaker 2: it's also understandable that as things start to grow, it's 82 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: a lot better if it's a collaborative process in terms 83 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: of making it the best place to work that it 84 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: can be. And I think getting a seat at the 85 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: table is something that we have to make for ourselves, 86 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: but it doesn't necessarily have to be a threat or 87 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: a retaliation. 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: This is something I think is kind of important with unionizing, 89 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: especially places that are kind of you know, like or 90 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, we're even where the sort of the boss 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: is legitimately trying to like do the right thing, which 92 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: like it's kind of true of like my work, right, 93 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: like you know, like the people above my bosses are 94 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: kind of a fiasco, but like my immediate like bosses 95 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: are like you know, it's Robert and Sophie, right, Like 96 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: they're pretty chill. But you know, like like one of 97 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: the dynamics that sets in is like, you know, it's 98 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: not what the actual conditions are, isn't necessarily always going 99 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: to be under their control, even if you know, like 100 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: even if they want to do the right thing, and 101 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: the demands of things like scale and you know, the 102 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: demands of sort of market competition have this sort of 103 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: disciplining effect on what, you know, like what what your 104 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: working conditions can be if you're going to sort of 105 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: compete with like I don't know, you're you're like doughnut 106 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: shop that like torches is union workers, right. 107 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 2: You know for example, Yeah, yeah, yeah. 108 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: Pure purely abstract, purely abstract. Yeah, absolutely, you know, seeing 109 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 3: a shop of you know, twelve become you know, two shops, 110 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 3: a food car and a commissary kitchen of thirty five, 111 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 3: that definitely, you know, it's just pushing the business in 112 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: a direction very naturally. It feels very much like a 113 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 3: part of how systems work, even if our even if 114 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 3: your owner has really good intentions, just the nature of 115 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 3: like how capitalism works is uh starts to change things 116 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: as Yeah at scale for sure. 117 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that that gets into something else that I'm. 118 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: Sort of interested in. 119 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: How the sort of unionizing process went. This is a 120 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: very I mean, I guess going from twelve to thirty 121 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: five is a big increase in the number of people, 122 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: but that's still a very small shop. So can you 123 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: talk a bit about what it's been like kind of 124 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: organizing in you know, I mean organizing a number of 125 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: people that you can very easily fit into a room. 126 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 2: It's been interesting and it's been exciting in that way 127 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 2: because we are able to cram into a room and 128 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: the energy is very palpable and so like inspiring momentum 129 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: to get shit done in each other has been really 130 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: really wonderful in that way. But I think also it's 131 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 2: it makes it easy for us to be very tactical 132 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: with how we are handling this process, where we're making 133 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: sure that at all four locations there's a majority, if 134 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 2: not unanimous, approval and support and membership in the union. 135 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,119 Speaker 2: And the more that the more that I'm meeting union 136 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: organizers and union reps and people from IWW, the more 137 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: that I'm realizing we're in a situation where we can 138 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: establish some really lovely precedent for similar workplaces who want 139 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: to start a union, who are about the same size 140 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: as us, or even like neighbors in our like on 141 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 2: the on the streets that are locations are at where 142 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: we can do things like there's not enough precedent in 143 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: the IWW for a service industry in general, but particularly 144 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: it's it's very common to be in the negotiating process 145 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 2: and one of the things that will be offered to 146 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 2: the employer in exchange for whatever you're negotiating on is 147 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: like a no strike clause, like okay, we'll just we'll 148 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: give this to you of like we're just not gonna 149 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: be able just to strike for the duration of our contract, 150 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: and so exchange we can get some other stuff that 151 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 2: we're asking for. But because we have such a strong majority, 152 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: and in all four locations we have a strong majority, 153 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: I think we're currently planning on keeping the right to strike. 154 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, and you know we're not planning on it 155 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 2: I hope that we don't ever have to do that, 156 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: but just having that as precedent I think will help 157 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: our community and other similar unions. 158 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I think. You know, this is something that 159 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: going back to if you look at the sort of 160 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: heyday of American unionism, if you look at like the 161 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: fifty sixty seventies, like those contracts didn't have no strike 162 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: clauses in them. Some of them did, so sometimes it 163 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: was like a federal thing. But the thing about no 164 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: strike clauses is that it makes you know, we've talked 165 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: about this a bit before on the show, but one 166 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: of the sort of issues when you have a union 167 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: is like, okay, so even if you get a contract right, 168 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: and that usually takes that takes a long time, takes 169 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: a lot of fighting, the company is immediately going to 170 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: start trying to violate the contract. And so you know, 171 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: your your contract is only as strong as your ability 172 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: to enforce it. And you know, one of a really 173 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: really good way to enforce it is by being able 174 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: to go on strike. But normally, like yeah, people aren't 175 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: organized enough to actually like fight their employers on it, 176 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: and so it just ends up being a kind of 177 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: standard part of contracts, and yeah, it's really exciting that 178 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: y'all are committing to fight for that from the beginning, 179 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: because it's it's it's hard, it's it's not an easy 180 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: thing to do. 181 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: Now, the more I learn about how unions operate, the 182 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: more I'm realizing that, you know, it doesn't necessarily stop 183 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: people from getting fired, it doesn't necessarily stop people from having, 184 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, injustice happened upon them. But it just gives 185 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 2: you the ability to fight in the first place. And 186 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: I think a lot of employers who are facing a 187 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: workplace who are wanting to unionize, like recognizing that it's 188 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: it's it's not like a threat. It's not like, Okay, 189 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: we're uh, we're going to have this union and everyone's 190 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 2: going to go on strike the next day and our 191 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: business is going to tank. But it's they're just asking 192 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 2: for the right to to have a better negotiating seat. 193 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is something I actually think it's really interesting 194 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: about this campaign where there's this really kind of I 195 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: don't know, I think if you're able to build a 196 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: precedent of being able to negotiate a contract that doesn't 197 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: have no strike clause that allows you to go on strike, whatever, 198 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, whenever you want is something that is like 199 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: characteristic of liking of you know, of a of an 200 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: incredibly militant shop. But I think if you can, if 201 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: you can actually get the precedent of you know, having 202 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: companies treat this as normal, because it's something that should 203 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: be normal, right like this, this is how a lot 204 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: of the US used to work, right it used to 205 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: be you were on like an auto line assembly line, 206 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: there'd be there be a guy in a back with 207 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: a whistle and if and if you know, if a 208 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: contract violation happened, or like you know, if if the 209 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: company is asking you to do something that you aren't 210 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: you know that you're not like contractually obligated to do 211 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: the person would you know, the union person would blow 212 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: the whistle, immediate strike, the entire assembly line goes down, 213 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: and you know, it turns out you actually can run 214 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: a completely functional like economy like this. But the kind 215 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: of the mentality of the people who own who own 216 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: businesses right now is that you should never at any point, 217 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: like you know, you should never at any point let 218 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: your workers do anything at all. You should immediately fight 219 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: them at the moment they try to unionize. And I 220 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: think you know, having a president of like you know, 221 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: of of being able to get this kind of stuff 222 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: without immediately having to launch, like you know, like immediate 223 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: immediately kick off a series of strikes with your employer. 224 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: Is is a good one? Is a good one to. 225 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: Set that we have so many people that are super 226 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 3: interested in like being a part of this organizing effort 227 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 3: because because we all like being there, like I think 228 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: is huge in comparison to like lots of stories that 229 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 3: we hear about and yeah, really wanting to like bring 230 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 3: that to the restaurant industry because yeah, that's unions are 231 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: you know, criminally under recognized within service work. Yeah, and 232 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: arguably an industry that needs it the most. 233 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Well, and that's the other exciting thing about 234 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: this shop is that you know, you're talking about sort 235 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: of like they're not being enough service organizing with it 236 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: with the IWW. And that's true of like basically all 237 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: unions because and especially shops at your scale, because you know, 238 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: a lot of these unions are using like a very 239 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: kind of crude cross cost benefit analysis and their their 240 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: assessment is like, well, why should we bother to organize 241 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: like this shop that has thirty five people at it 242 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: because you know, this is it like we're like the 243 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: amount of dews money we're going to get out of 244 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: it is like not you know, is not is not 245 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: worth the effort. But on the other hand, you know, 246 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: like do you know how many workers there are, like 247 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: how many of these like how many of these tiny 248 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: shops across the there are across the entire country that 249 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: if you know, and if everyone just refuses to organize them, 250 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: then you're leaving like tens of millions of workers just 251 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: sort of like screwed. 252 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. I can't speak for all IWW, but I know, 253 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: like talking with like the Portland branch definitely mirrors our 254 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 3: shop and at like how queer and leftist it is. 255 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: And is that surprising that they're working with the IWW 256 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: or with the Coalition of Independent Unions which is a 257 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: Pacific Northwest like union for unions kind of thing. It's 258 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: not surprising that like our values are aligned and it's 259 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: like making making for something like really fun and like 260 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: you know, setting a new kind of industry standard for 261 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,359 Speaker 3: service industry. 262 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Unfortunately, speaking of industry standards, I have to go 263 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: to an ad break. It's in my contract somewhere probably, 264 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: although I don't think my employers have read my contract 265 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: in a long time. But you know, such are the 266 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: dictates of a podcast that that your senior bosses don't 267 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: listen to. Yeah, we will return in however long the 268 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: ads are and we are back, So okay. Another thing 269 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: that I kind of wanted to talk about is what 270 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: has it sort of been like in terms of, like, 271 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: you know, so like, how how has you know, in 272 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: a shop that's like this small? How has the sort 273 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: of like organizing conversations gone right, Like is everyone just 274 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: sort of close enough that you know, you were able 275 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: to kind of do this organically, or was there still 276 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: sort of a like mapping process for all of the 277 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: shops or. 278 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 2: Well, luckily it has gone pretty smoothly. But we were 279 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: advised early on to create an interest map where we 280 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: go through the list of every coworker that we have 281 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: and talk about like how well do we know them? 282 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 2: Do we think they would be down? Like, well, this 283 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: person would obviously be down. This person, I guess we'll 284 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: just have to talk to them and see and apart 285 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: from a few cases, it has been very successful and 286 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: easy so far. It's really lucky that almost all of 287 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: our coworkers our comrades. 288 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think like our first like conversation was I 289 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: think about ten people at like a bar close to 290 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: like the main Hawthorn shop, and like once we had 291 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: like that get together. Yeah, it really became about, like, 292 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: you know, how do we get our satellite locations, you know, 293 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: on this on the same page, you know, with like 294 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: a super majority at one shop, you know, then just 295 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: moving on to you know our little you know, the 296 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 3: Pioneer food cart and then our Commissary kitchen and then 297 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: the Mississippi location. That was just you know, hiring a 298 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: whole new staff for and you know, getting them in 299 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 3: you know, collecting them into the fold. And yeah, I 300 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: ww was very helpful and like how to like kind 301 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 3: of create those processes to like ensure that you know, 302 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: we were approaching people in the right way. And yeah, 303 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: it getting a proper headcount. 304 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: Yeah that can be a disaster. Yeah, oh god, Like 305 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: my union, we're still trying to hash out whether some 306 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: people are in the union or not, and like people 307 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: will leave the company. Then this happens all the time, right, 308 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: Like one of the things you discovered really quickly when 309 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: you need a union organizing is that your like management 310 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: doesn't actually know how anything works, or like even who's 311 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: working for them and what they do. They have absolutely 312 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: no idea, and so you have to do their job 313 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: and figure out what everyone does. 314 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: What management would be so mad at you for saying, you. 315 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: Know, look if they if they did, if they didn't 316 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: want me to talk negatively about they should pay me more. 317 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: They simply do not any of us enough. That's not 318 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: universal from time to time. Yeah, yeah, but I think 319 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: that you know, what's what's interesting about the shop too, 320 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: is it really seems like y'all just sort of speed 321 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: ran doing a good campaign, Like you're doing all of 322 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: the things that that you you you get a good organizers, 323 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: but then you know, every once in a while you 324 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: just get a shop where it just kind of everything 325 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 1: just clicks and goes. 326 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 2: It has been five months start to finish, which I 327 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 2: feel like is significantly faster than most. 328 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, most of. 329 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 2: That is just down to that there aren't very many 330 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 2: of us, and so talking to everyone hasn't been that 331 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: crazy of an endeavor. 332 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but. 333 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: I think probably in the first meeting or two, we 334 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 2: just crunch the numbers and realized, Okay, we're not going 335 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: to have any trouble having a majority, but we have to, 336 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: and so the focus of our work went into making 337 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 2: sure we do it right and learning to inoculate people 338 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: and talk to people we haven't talked to yet and 339 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: people for whom it would be a little more sensitive 340 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: or more in depth conversation, and educating ourselves on what 341 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: starting a union actually looks like. And IWW has been 342 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: very helpful providing these little trainings that I've been able 343 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: to go to. It's funny that they're on Sunday afternoons 344 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 2: and so I'm pretty sure I'm the only person at 345 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 2: our brunch restaurant who doesn't work Sunday afternoons, so I've 346 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: been going to those. 347 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, this has something been like I don't know, 348 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 1: I feel like it should be a thing that so 349 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: I was at this will I guess we'll have come 350 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: out after the Labor Nights episode that I'm doing. But 351 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: something that I feel like I don't hear much discussion 352 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: of in union organizing that I feel like there should 353 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: be is like fighting management on scheduling and like trying 354 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: to fight for you know, people actually A having consistent 355 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: schedules and B not just having like I don't know, 356 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: like I know a lot of people who find out 357 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: their schedule on Facebook, like four hours before they have 358 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: to go in, right, Like, that's insane, that is that 359 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: is that is not a way for industrial process to function. Right. 360 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: No, thankfully that has not been one of our issues 361 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: at least at least not systemically at Fredick. 362 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, but but it does make it hard to do 363 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: intro organizational training. Is because it's like everyone has weird 364 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: scheduling stuff going on, so it's it's hard to like, 365 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like it's it's underrated. Barrier 366 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: to getting a lot of people from different unions to 367 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: work together, is that no one is ever off at 368 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: the same time. 369 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: That's real. 370 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I know it's been weird. I think they're 371 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: a huge aspect of our success I think is that 372 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 3: we have been able to like I think the unique 373 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 3: part about the breakfast place is that it's not open 374 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 3: from you know, am to pm. It's not open from 375 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: ten am to eleven pm, like like a restaurant could 376 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 3: potentially be open. We are open for breakfast. We're done 377 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: at two on the weekdays, and adding in a standing 378 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: union meeting at four pm once a week was very 379 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 3: easy to add to everybody's schedule. I think. I think 380 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: in the nature of the breakfast place lent to that 381 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 3: working very very easily. 382 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and our coworkers that maybe need a little more 383 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 2: persuasion that like, hey, no, don't worry this is this 384 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 2: is really happening, and you can be a part of it, 385 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 2: even if you know that their pro union. Kind of 386 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: getting the ball rolling with people sometimes takes a meeting 387 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: or two and being able to have the peer pressure 388 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: of like, hey, we're going to a meeting right now. 389 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: I know you're not doing anything after this, and I'll 390 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: give you a ride helps a lot because then they 391 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: go to their meeting and they're like, wow, that was awesome. 392 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: I never knew I could take control of my life 393 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: in any way. 394 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that rules. There really is nothing like just being 395 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: in a place with a bunch of people who all 396 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: are trying to like actually do the thing, like you know. 397 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is why. You know, like, 398 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: as we're recording this, like a bunch of campus occupations 399 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: are going right, and I mean, I don't know, God, 400 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: hopefully by the time this comes out, they won't have 401 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: all died horribly because this is getting recorded on what day, 402 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: is it that April twenty eighth, so I and is 403 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: being released into like hell world. But yeah, you know, 404 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I think one of one of the aspects 405 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: of of of those camps is that like you're just 406 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: there with a bunch of people who you get to 407 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: talk to and organize with. And it turns out that 408 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: actually being there face to face with a bunch of 409 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: people is just great. And that's that's the thing. That's 410 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: the thing. You can also like that you knows, as 411 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: much as like union work can just can be work, right, 412 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: it can be you sitting in front of a spreadsheet 413 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: and going, oh my god, what does this person respond 414 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: Like it's also I don't know, it's it's also like 415 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: it could be really great and I don't know, you should, 416 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 1: you dear listeners should experience it because it rules. 417 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 2: I couldn't recommend it more. Is the best feeling in 418 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: the world, and Sol and I are addicted to it 419 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: to feel like you're actually doing anything real Hell yeah, 420 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 2: it's incredible. 421 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 3: That's yeah. Something we heard from i W or i 422 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: w W friends is that like this, like, especially with 423 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 3: how early in the process we are, like how exciting 424 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 3: that is to like just get everybody, But everybody in 425 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 3: a room and I feel like we're all working towards 426 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: the same thing. Yeah, and that you do get addicted 427 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: to it. And that's often where the union organizers came from, 428 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: was like starting their own and they're like, oh, I 429 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: need to keep doing this. 430 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: I think. I think that's a pretty good doe to 431 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 1: end on, unless you do have anything else that you 432 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: want to make sure we get you first. 433 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, with like how early in the process we are 434 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 3: after the comes out, like we will have like dropped 435 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: our authorization cards and like actually started like the formal process. 436 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: Like we're still pretty early on, but we already have 437 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: a fundraiser setup with like a local beer bar. We're 438 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: at Workers Sat. Hell yeah, and that's super exciting. And 439 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 3: we're building our socials and uh probably have a go 440 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 3: fundme for strike fundraiser. So yeah, early days, but very exciting, 441 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 3: very purposeful days. 442 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a big week. 443 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Yeah. Where can people go to find the 444 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: union and go to support you all? 445 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: Well, our socials are not live yet, but all right, 446 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: so yeah, this is this, this is has been recorded 447 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 2: before things go live, we will we will have the 448 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: links down there. 449 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we I think we're settling on the tag 450 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 3: the user name fried egg w U, which we are 451 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 3: saying foo about because you know, you gotta you gotta, 452 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 3: you gotta make you gotta make this fun. But yes, 453 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,400 Speaker 3: we will be. Yeah, we will be sharing that with you. 454 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm glad you knew because I wasn't sure if if 455 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 2: we had a handle agreed upon yet. Yeah, we find 456 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: us on the socials Frida egg w. 457 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 3: U with it being early days and like us not 458 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 3: even being public yet. I've built those accounts, but they're 459 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 3: not like not ready to go. So there's that, like 460 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 3: we're in this dead zone period where we're we've built 461 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: the infrastructure for a proper you know, the proper election, 462 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 3: even though we are very hopeful that our owner will 463 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: recognize us with you know, the majority that we have, 464 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 3: but yeah, we're our zero day is May Day, a 465 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 3: couple of days from now, and we are very excited 466 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: for that very much. 467 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: So oh yeah, hopefully it goes well. It will be 468 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: in the past by time this comes out. But good 469 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: luck to both of you, and thank you both so 470 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: much for coming on. 471 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: Another pleasure belongs to us. We're both fans for having 472 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: us on. 473 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, does this has been naked happen here. 474 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: You too can go experience the joys of organizing your workplace. 475 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: So go go do that or go to a student occupation, 476 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: do both. I don't know. There's a lot going on. 477 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: There are many places for you to experience the joy 478 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: of organizing with other people, so go go do that. 479 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: And yeah, you can find us in the usual places. 480 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Sophie will probably be on it in 481 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: about one second. This ad pivot not whatever. Listen. This 482 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: has got completely off the rails. 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