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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Buck Sexton Show podcast, let make

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Speaker 2: After the fiery meeting in the Oval Office that just

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Speaker 2: happened on Friday with Trump, Zelenski, and of course JD. Vance,

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Speaker 2: what the heck is Zelenski doing saying that an end

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Speaker 2: to the Ukraine War was quote very very far away?

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Speaker 2: Why would he do that? Donald Trump wants to know.

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Speaker 2: He called this out on truth social He said, this

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Speaker 2: is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelenski,

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Speaker 2: and America will not put up with it for much longer.

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Speaker 2: It is what I was saying. This guy doesn't want

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Speaker 2: there to be peace as long as he has America's

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Speaker 2: backing and Europe. In the meeting they had with Zelenski,

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Speaker 2: he stated flatly, they cannot do the job of the US.

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Speaker 2: Probably not a great statement to have been made in

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Speaker 2: terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are

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Speaker 2: they thinking? This just goes to show you, I think

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Speaker 2: how intemperate and ill advised the Zelensky response to Trump,

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Speaker 2: Vance and really just to the United States was. In

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Speaker 2: this recent sit down where we are supposed to what

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Speaker 2: fund the Ukraine War endlessly as a humanitarian gesture. We

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Speaker 2: are funding, to the tune of hundreds of billions of

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Speaker 2: dollars a war that does not affect US territorial integrity.

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Speaker 2: If anything has cost the US massively economically, it's not

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Speaker 2: under economic interests. The only national security interest that you

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Speaker 2: could even begin to argue.

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Speaker 3: That it serves for us is that it is Well,

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Speaker 3: there's one, which is that it is meant to stop

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Speaker 3: Russia from rolling over other European countries militarily, which I

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Speaker 3: think is as a fantasy, look at the trouble they're

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Speaker 3: having in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Then there's one that's really quite cynical and bloody minded,

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Speaker 2: and that is that we are draining Russia's manpower reserves

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Speaker 2: without actually losing any Americans. But that only makes sense

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Speaker 2: if you think that we're trying to prevent or rather

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Speaker 2: that we're trying to prepare for a war with Russia

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Speaker 2: in the long term, which we are not, or at

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Speaker 2: least we shouldn't be, because that would be insane. There's

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Speaker 2: no reason for US to go to war with Russia.

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Speaker 2: Russia has what a trillion dollar economy. This is not

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Speaker 2: a country that we should have to sit around thinking

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Speaker 2: so much about But the Democrats, as you know, in

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Speaker 2: mesh us politics with the machinations of the Kremlin, and

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Speaker 2: Putin very much in twenty sixteen by saying that he

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Speaker 2: delivered the election to Trump, which was just insane, just

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Speaker 2: crazy stuff. And they made some massive miscalculations, the Democrats did.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden did well, the calculations he made for himself

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Speaker 2: his family to get millions of dollars from Ukraine. Of

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Speaker 2: course that worked out for them, but for American interests,

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Speaker 2: it was a tremendous blunder what was done here in

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Speaker 2: Ukraine over a series of many years, and making Putin

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Speaker 2: think that we were going to bring Ukraine into NATO,

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Speaker 2: a military alliance which, let's be honest, exists to hold

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Speaker 2: Russia in check. We're going to add and we were

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Speaker 2: going to add Ukraine into that. And Putin said, absolutely not,

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Speaker 2: and so he invades and creates this horrible, bloody mess

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Speaker 2: that we're seeing right now. Why would Zelenski ever say

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Speaker 2: the end of this war is very very far away.

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Speaker 2: What does he think is gained? They're just going to

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Speaker 2: look at medieval siege warfare, which was really the way

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Speaker 2: that warfare was conducted for a long time, especially when

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Speaker 2: were just going to starve everybody out. You're all going

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Speaker 2: likely to be the case and you weren't gonna get

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Speaker 2: are huge costs to delay. There are a huge cost

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Speaker 2: to getting this wrong. And what has really been gained

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Speaker 2: by Ukraine in the last called the last two years,

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Speaker 2: the first year of the conflict, you can say they

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Speaker 2: had to stop Russia. Okay, they stopped Russia from rolling

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Speaker 2: over them. Heroic was resistance by Ukrainian fighters did far

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Speaker 2: better than was anticipated, certainly by the Russians. That's into

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Speaker 2: year one, you're two year three. What has happened just

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Speaker 2: stalemate with more and more death meat grinder. Let's end

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Speaker 2: this thing, That's what Trump is saying. Let's end this thing,

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Speaker 2: and that requires pressure on both sides. If Zelenski doesn't

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Speaker 2: think that there's pressure on him to end it, well,

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Speaker 2: then maybe he can just continue to bleed out Russia

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Speaker 2: and think he'll get better terms from Russia in a

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Speaker 2: year than he gets right now. No, Dick, bring this

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Speaker 2: to an end. Now. You need pressure on both sides.

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Speaker 2: You know. It's the guy in what's that show called

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Speaker 2: Billions who plays as he says, nobody ever leaves negotiation happy,

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Speaker 2: and he's being glib, but there's some truth in that.

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Speaker 2: It's not a negotiation if you get everything you want.

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Speaker 2: Putin's not going to get everything that he wants, which

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Speaker 2: is all probably all of Ukraine, and Ukraine is not

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Speaker 2: going to get. Zelenski's not going to get everything that

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Speaker 2: and all this stuff too. I got to tell you

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Speaker 2: it really ticks Trump off. And I can understand why

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Speaker 2: is some big advocate for Putin, some Putin puppet. This

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Speaker 2: is just insane. This is some hangover from the Democrats

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Speaker 2: and Hillary in twenty sixteen. This is not rooted any

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Speaker 2: actual reality. You know, he speaks respectfully about Putin because

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Speaker 2: he's the leader of a major country with thousands of

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Speaker 2: nuclear missiles and a lot of oil and energy assets

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Speaker 2: that the global economy is affected by. So yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: not going to just sit around and talk tough. Jd.

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Speaker 2: Vance pointed this out, the talk tough, talk tough stuff

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Speaker 2: That's nothing. There's so many people for whom the Ukraine

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Speaker 2: issue has just become either stop Trump at all, you know,

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Speaker 2: know what side of this he's on. He's trying to

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Speaker 2: stop it. And then there's also so that's on the

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Speaker 2: I think there are a lot of people for whom

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Speaker 2: this is just a big virtue signaling exercise. I know

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Speaker 2: that sounds crazy, but it's true. They put the Ukraine

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Speaker 2: have to stop them. They have this very childlike, simplistic

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Speaker 2: Churchill versus Hitler, and it's not Churchill versus Hitler. Russia

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Speaker 2: But unfortunately that has infected a lot of people's minds

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Speaker 2: as though that's in any way a reasonable analogy to

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Speaker 2: what's going on. So, yeah, Trump is pressuring Zelenski here,

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Speaker 2: do have to say, it feels like Zelensky almost wants

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Speaker 1: What's your reaction to what you just heard from the

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Speaker 1: salvaging this relationship with you screen. So it is absolutely

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Speaker 1: shameful what is happening right now. The White House has

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Speaker 1: For the last week, the White House has been pretending

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Speaker 1: There are still facts in this world, and the fact

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Speaker 1: this war. And the entire pretext for that meeting yesterday

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Speaker 2: This is nuts, this is embarrassing. I'm sorry that they

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Speaker 2: not going to become less insane in time. These accusations

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Speaker 2: against Trump. I've dealt with this so many times. Trump

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Speaker 2: of Trump giving them javelin missiles. And he pointed this

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Speaker 2: possibility or capability for the Ukrainian forces against Russian mechanized infantry, tanks,

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Speaker 2: armored personnel carriers. So it's a big deal. Would you

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Speaker 2: do that if you were Putin's puppet? Of course, would

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