WEBVTT - Week 2 Test for Youth in Jaguars’ Secondary | Jaguars Happy Hour 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.080 To be the voice of Tarnvader, but they found somebody 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:08.800 a little better. J. P. Chacker, Welcome. 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:12.680 He is Jaguars Happy Hour, Thursday, September twelfth. It is 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:15.280 week two, the Jaguars and the Browns coming up. We 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.400 got busy two hours ahead here on ten toon Xcel 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.560 at ninety two point five FM. Jaguars Happy Hour, Now 0:00:21.640 --> 0:00:24.040 Doug Peterson Show at five o'clock. 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:25.760 We'll have the head coach and studio with. 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:32.560 Us Brown's Jaguars preview coming up, Lawrence versus Watson, all 0:00:32.680 --> 0:00:37.479 Clemson quarterback matchup, defensive comparisons of course, both teams with 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.800 the strong defensive units. And the Baptist Health Injury report 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.440 coming up whenever it is released today, we'll have that 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.599 for you, as we said, ten to Xcel, ninety two 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.839 point five FM, Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube as well. 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:56.360 JP Shadwick with Jaguars analyst Jeff Logoman, Good afternoon. 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:00.280 How are you good afternoon? Did you say strong defenses? Yeah? 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.440 I don't know if that's a little early to label 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:06.279 the Jaguars in the category of the Cleveland. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:12.920 Browns, Okay, Nelly, a little too okay? 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:16.399 Well premature there, Yeah, I mean, it's one game and 0:01:16.880 --> 0:01:21.360 last time I checked, the Jaguars ranking was twenty seventh 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:23.920 in the league. Cars allowed. All right, well, I was 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:25.800 giving them the benefit of the death thirty second in 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:30.120 the past, trying to be positive. I like your positivity, JP, 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:34.119 But let's talk it exist, let's be real. Come on. 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:37.080 But that'll be a fun one that we'll get into 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:42.160 that coming up. But but yeah, that's quite a matchup though, 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.400 This Browns defense against the Jags defense. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:45.960 I think a better way to put it is the 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.440 Jags defense against the Browns offense. How you just put 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.000 it right there, because that that that's a matchup first 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.520 of all, the Browns defense against yeah, the brown but 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.080 the Browns defense, Now, hold on, you got to follow 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.080 me from I'm about to straighten out, thank you. The 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.120 Browns defense against anybody is a tough matchup for that 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:06.320 anybody got except the Cowboys last week exactly. But it 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.760 was no, it was a tough matchup for the Cowboys too. Now, 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.080 the Cowboys got a special team score, which was a 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:13.680 big part of that ball game, and the offense of 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:18.320 the Cleveland Browns was absolutely atrocious. That's why I think 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.480 that this game is a kind of an interesting matchup 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.519 Jags defense against the Cleveland Browns defense, just because the 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.840 Cleveland Browns offense has shown that it's so inept with 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.680 Deshaun Watson at the helm and two backup tackles, they 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.480 were struggling to get out of their own way in 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.920 that game against the Cowboys. And Mike Micah Parsons is 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:44.520 an absolute monster. I mean him and Miles Garrett, TJ Watt, 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:48.920 Chris Jones. I mean those guys right there now that 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:52.359 Aaron Donald's retired, I mean, those guys right there are 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:54.160 the cream of the crop. And I don't know if 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:55.919 there's anybody better than Miles Garrett. 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:59.280 All right, let's get into the Jags offense against Garrett 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.200 and this Browns if it's I think for the Jaguars 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.320 to get anything, they have to have some kind of 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:09.800 success against this group. Garrett up front, Jeremiah su Corramoa 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.919 linebacker level, he's a good one. Denzel Ward at corner, 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.720 who's been to three Pro Bowls. I mean, They've got 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:18.280 guys at every level that can play, and a coordinator 0:03:18.280 --> 0:03:21.320 who's not afraid to dial it up. No, he's a 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:25.880 highly aggressive Jim Schwartz, by the way, yes, highly aggressive. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.080 And there's a relationship there that goes, you know, into 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:32.040 the past with Doug Peterson. Obviously they won a Super 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.480 Bowl together, and uh. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:36.240 And I got the feeling that it's just not a 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.600 warm and fuzzy relationship anymore. I mean, do you get 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:43.640 that impression? Well, you know what, let's ask Doug when 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.720 he gets in here. And the reason I say that 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:54.240 is that, uh, you don't. You don't see hug and 0:03:54.280 --> 0:03:57.080 all that kind of stuff. And you would think that 0:03:57.160 --> 0:04:01.560 when Doug Peterson gets ahead job, that Jim Schwartz would 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:04.160 be kind of maybe a candidate for being the defensive coordinator, 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:08.680 but that didn't happen. Uh anyway, just thinking out loud here, 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.840 you know, kind of kind of different. Jim Schwartz is 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:16.880 a guy that kind of along the lines of Buddy Ryan. 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:21.560 And what I mean by that is, give me the 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:26.560 credit on the defensive coordinator, you know, give me some attention. 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:30.800 That's my side of the ball. That's good. I mean, 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:35.320 don't you get that impression. I mean, my hair is 0:04:35.360 --> 0:04:39.839 out of place. Don't have that problem. He's an interesting, 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:41.839 an interesting coordinator. 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:47.000 You know, what makes the coordinator better. Yeah, So here's 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.440 the question. Nobody might have an answer to, but I'm 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.680 gonna ask it anyway, because that's the challenge this week 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.840 is how do you slow him down? How do you 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.400 block Miles Garrett? Uh approach? 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.039 Multiple people you have, I mean, it's got to be 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:04.280 multiple people. And the hard part is is that they 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.840 do a really good job of moving ninety five or out. 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.040 They moved him to the left side, they move him 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.080 to the right side, They'll kick him down inside. Sometimes 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:17.039 he can play a lot of different places and there's 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.560 not one person that can block him one on one 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.040 in this league for long. I mean, you know, there 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.240 might be a play that you slow him down, but 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.320 it's not like there's a guy that can just block him. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:33.320 I mean he is in fact. To go back to 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:37.839 an event that I did with the Jaguar fan base 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.520 and season ticket holders on Tuesday, me and Trent balky 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.600 were on stage and I asked Trent Balke, you know, 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:46.840 because he's been in the league since nineteen ninety eight, 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.600 and I asked him, I said, what's the greatest player 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:54.880 that you've ever scouted looked at from an evaluator scout standpoint. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.919 And he didn't hesitate. He said, the greatest player that 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.360 ever that I've looked that is Miles Garrett. And he 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.440 goes and I'm not saying that because it's this week. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.320 And he said that even though at the time he 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.880 said there was no chance of us being able to 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:13.040 draft him, he said he was hands down, by far, 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.120 the greatest talent that I've ever looked at. Well, that's 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.719 the guy that the Jaguars are assigned to block this week, 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:23.320 and it's coming a week after that. The Jaguars tackles 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:27.200 did not play particularly well. In fact, if you want 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:31.800 to be completely honest, I'm looking at numbers right here 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:37.720 on my surfaces. Yes, let me just say this, oh boy. 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:42.720 And after the game, I said, I mean, BESSELI were 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:45.520 talking about the game and watched the film, and after 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.719 watching the film, I said, you know, that was not 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:51.799 a good performance by Anton Harrison. In fact, before the game, 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:55.039 I was telling Joe Rose, the color analyst for the 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:57.760 Miami Dolphins, I was like, look, seventy seven is really good. 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:01.040 I think he's our best offensive linemen. I mean, I mean, 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.120 when you say that, that's a fair assessment. Thinking that 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.760 Anton Harrison was going to be the best offensive lineman 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.120 for the Jaguars this year based on last year. Yeah, 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.120 the way he kept you know, he's coming off, had 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:14.240 his shoulder, had a good year with that, and yeah, 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.320 I mean, it's the boy. And after the game I 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:18.320 went to Joe and I apologize and I said, man, 0:07:18.360 --> 0:07:21.720 I'm sorry saying that about seventy seven. I said, I 0:07:21.760 --> 0:07:24.000 thought he was better than that. I said he didn't 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.760 have a very good game, So I kind of looked 0:07:26.760 --> 0:07:28.600 like I didn't know what I was talking about to 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.000 Joe a little bit. And then watching the film, he 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:34.960 didn't play well. And you look at PFF grades and 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:36.600 I know that's not the end all be all, but 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:38.840 he was the third worst graded tackle in football. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:43.200 Is Garrett the type that you know with the Chiefs 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.720 Can what's his name of the Chiefs? 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:50.360 You just said it, Chris, Chris, Chris Jones. Anyway, I 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:54.480 have those moments too, jas lately. It's a loile Wow. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:56.640 He can kind of pick his spots. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.880 You know what, I'm gonna line up against this guy 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.640 this down, I'm gonna up against this guy on this 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.800 and he has the ability to go pick out who 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.320 he wants to rush against. I'm sure Garrett probably has 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:08.160 that same thing. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.200 Yeah, Well, I don't think they give him the freedom 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.240 to pick where he wants to go. But I think 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.800 I think, yes, it's some of that's very strategic. And 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.080 would they even put him in against a guard. Sure, 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.360 he's more comfortable at the end because his skill set 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:25.560 is a little bit more adept to play defensive end. 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.080 But I mean, he's big, he's strong, he's long, he's fast, 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:35.120 he's athletic. He uh, you know, he takes on double 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.320 teams all the time. I mean, it's just it's that's 0:08:38.360 --> 0:08:40.480 the world he lives in. That's the world that Chris 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.199 Jones lives in. TJ. Watt. I think I don't know 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.400 if he would get as much or as many double 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.640 teams as them now, even though TJ. Watt statistically has 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.880 had like the highest numbers in sack total over the 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:53.920 last couple of year. Defensive player, they're a great player. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:57.959 I think sometimes Micah Parsons and Miles Garrett draw more 0:08:57.960 --> 0:09:01.600 attention than TJ. Watt because some people watch TJ. And Ah. 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:04.920 You know, he doesn't quite have that, you know, like 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.640 those two guys do. But I mean he's still productive. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:12.760 But you know, Michael Parsons, Miles Garrett, Chris Jones TJ. Watt. 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:16.680 Those guys are the the unstoppable forces in the National 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:18.840 Football League, and the Jaguars got to find a way 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:21.560 to stop him this week. And it's not gonna be 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:25.920 easy because, look, the reality is you're gonna have a 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:29.920 hard time sometimes identifying where he's gonna line up. Sometimes 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:31.680 it's easier if you don't know where a guy's gonna 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:34.440 be at, because then you can game plan your protection 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.160 where you need that extra help at. He's listed as 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:41.000 a left end, but no, he plays right, he plays left, 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:44.400 He'll play wherever. You know he's He's that good. I mean, 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:48.320 you know, sometimes every week you hear broadcasters and analysts, 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.640 you know, inflate guys to make oh great matchup. I'm 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:55.040 not inflating anything here, folks. Miles Garrett is an absolute beast. 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:57.640 The twenty twenty four season is here. You don't want 0:09:57.640 --> 0:09:59.920 to miss the matchups this season and whether you want 0:09:59.960 --> 0:10:02.240 to to become a season ticket member, catch three or 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.360 more games with a bundle at the bank, or experienced 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.440 the season with prow pass, there's a plan for every fan. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:12.960 Get locked in at Jaguars dot com, slash tickets or 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.400 call nine oh four six three three two thousand. It's 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.559 the Jaguars Happy Hour on tens XL ninety two point 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:21.880 five FM. Yes, how many? How many sacks? Like you 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.720 needed something to say? How many sacks did Jalen Phillips 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.880 have in this past game? Did this week? Yeah? A 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:30.680 couple at least, didn't he? I mean he was, he 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:35.600 was pretty good, right, Yeah, Jalen Phillips isn't even the 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.040 same stratosphere. Oh sure as a as a Miles Garrett. 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.000 I mean so, I mean the level of intensity is 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:45.319 going to go raised dramatically this week. Here here it 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:48.360 is right here, Mimmy Dolphin sacks Jail and Phillips. But 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:50.720 Kalay's got one, right, all they gave Jalen Phillips had 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:55.679 one sack. Kalay's got one. And on first play the game, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.679 first play, I mean, I don't know what Anton was 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.920 doing on that play wasn't very good. I mean it's 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:07.680 you know, they were bringing pressure, kalais looping, and Anton 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.000 was kind of going through the motions of play action 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:11.920 and not selling it very good. I mean it was. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:14.720 All I know is is that if you think that 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.880 that's gonna work this week against Miles Garrett. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:17.200 Uh uh? 0:11:17.800 --> 0:11:20.120 It ain't gonna work. How about the rest of this 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:21.440 Browns defense. 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:26.359 J Okay the linebacker got a contract extension this offseason. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:33.120 They like him, Okay, Jeremiah j Okay. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.520 I like that, Jay Okay. Am I allowed to use 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.520 that in a broadcast on Sunday. They use it all 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.720 the time. It's not I didn't just make it up. Yeah, Okay, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.679 I like that. That's a little lot easier to say that. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.720 Jay Okay, Right, I like that. He's a fantastic player. 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.120 He's a good player. He's really a good player. I mean, 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:53.640 he's a Pro Bowl level player. Denzel Ward, pro Bowl 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.599 level player. Good news. Wan thorn Hill is going to 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.959 be out. He went to injured reserve with a calf 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.880 from the first week. Who was a starting safety, Dell 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:07.520 Pitt is a good football players. The Darius Smith, who 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:11.560 was the opposite edge player of Miles Garrett, good football player. 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.160 Uh yeah, this this is this is a tough matchup, 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:16.840 you know. And here here's the other thing I'm gonna 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:22.079 point out. There were there were some performances by dependable 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:26.600 guys on the Jaguars offensive side of the ball that 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:27.840 were not good. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:30.840 Let me ask you a question. I can't wait to 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:34.920 hear it. What do you expect out of Christian Kirk? 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.400 I expect him to not drop as many balls as 0:12:38.400 --> 0:12:40.000 he did last What do you expect. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:45.240 Out of Evan Ingram? More looks? Uh better performances? Right on? 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.720 Both of those guys. Yeah, they didn't play very well either, right, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:54.280 we know, yes, we saw the Kirk drops Evan Ingram. 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.800 Ingram wasn't dropping the ball, but why was it not 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:58.560 a good performance? 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.439 Blocking was not great. 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.280 But the guy had one hundred, almost set the record 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:06.559 for catches by a tight end of the NFL last year. 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.440 He's only getting how many looks? A handful of targets? 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:13.000 Right, Okay, it's tough, Okay, but you know part of 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.480 getting looks is extending drives and helping another ways. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:16.960 Right. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.800 I'm not saying it's not I'm just stilling the fact. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.280 Like you if you looked at the blocking of Brenton 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:29.000 Strange in this ball game, outstanding, outstanding US and he's 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:33.720 obviously different player than Evan Ingram. But I mean, and 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.160 I'm not asking Evan Ingram to become Brenton Strange. 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.400 That's not what a mask because you know what Evan is. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.480 He's supposed to run down the field. That's his number 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:44.240 one priority. But it just didn't look the same. He's 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:45.000 got to be better. 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.079 Evan Ingram has to be better because you know, he's 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.120 one of those guys you depend on. I mean, is 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:51.480 the offense. You know, I was talking to Press Taylor 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.240 before the game, and he's talking about how the offense 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.760 runs through literally runs through Christian Kirk and Avn Ingram, 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.480 and that's what we saw. Well it did. It did 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.240 run through those two on Sunday. If you were looking 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.240 at Sunday's game, you would think that, Okay, then maybe 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.360 the offense needs to run through Brian Thomas Junior and 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:17.120 Tank Bigsby. So anyway, I mean, just it's got to 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:19.480 be better. From the guys that you're counting on and 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.880 the dependable veterans, they need to be dependable each each 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:25.760 and every week. We've got plenty ahead. We're back in 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:26.120 a moment. 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:30.000 We'll hear from Josh heinz Allen on DeShawn Watson and 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:34.680 the challenge of facing I guess he was in his 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.000 heyday a dual threat type guy. We'll see if he 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:37.800 still got it. 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:39.160 We'll hear from. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:43.280 Jha coming up in just a moment and of course 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:45.840 a little bit later the injury report before the Browns 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.680 Jaguars matchup. We're on ten to nextl ninety two point 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.720 five FM, Jaguars dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:15:04.400 This is Jaguars Happy Hour just from last week too. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:08.400 You know, you know, the Russia's having them wrapped up 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.560 and him still having a capability to get away, So 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.120 just being dialed in on you know, when you have him, 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.440 it's going to take probably more thing, you know, one, 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.480 two people to get him down, so you know, just 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.840 just jump on them and hold on for dear life, 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:25.360 because he still has all capability of getting at any tackle. 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:31.720 It's jaj Josh heinz Allen and discussion about Deshaun Watson, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.600 the Browns quarterback, first round pick of course of the 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.880 Texans back in twenty seventeen, traded to the Browns in 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:46.480 twenty two and now after starting thirteen games for the Browns, 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.600 he's eight and five as a starter there, trying to 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.400 get it on track. A lot of stuff going on 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:53.720 off the field around for Sea Watson, and this week 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.520 father passed away apparently last. 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:58.640 Week too, so I mean there's been a lot happening 0:15:58.640 --> 0:15:59.000 with him. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:01.680 On the Felt and welcome back at Jaguars Happy Hour 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:03.840 JP Shadwick with Jeff Flogman. Glad you're with us on 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:07.640 tent XL ninety two point five FM, Jaguars dot Com 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.960 and Jaguars YouTube. Ahead of the Browns Jaguars matchup presented 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.440 by EverBank now called Trevor Bank. They put the signage 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.080 up today outside of the stadium, really the tr in 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.400 front of everyone. Oh yeah, yeah, all right, so check 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:21.320 it out coming up. 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:25.000 On You know, if it's going to be called Trevor Bank, 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:26.920 then he's got to own it, right, I would hope. 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:28.320 So yes, and kick some button. 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.360 Yes, have a great day and against another Clemson quarterback, 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:38.680 Intoshaun Watson. And you know the performance last week, that's 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.160 what it is. You got two backup tackles, you got 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:46.480 very good, the tight end got hurt and first game, 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.200 yeah it was not good. The question is is this 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.800 is the old Deshaun still in there somewhere because talking 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.000 to Fred Taylor this week and you'll hear that on 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:58.520 count had a kickoff on Sunday and on the Jags 0:16:58.520 --> 0:16:59.320 Podcast Network. 0:16:59.320 --> 0:16:59.920 I mean he's. 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.520 He's talked with Deshaun before and he does everything the 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:08.080 right way and preparing for a season, but it just 0:17:08.119 --> 0:17:08.879 hasn't shown up. 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.440 I just field in Cleveland. I don't know how anybody 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:15.360 can give all of their attention and be good at 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:19.320 football with everything that he has had going on over 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:25.720 the last couple of years, from the massage therapy accusations 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:32.119 to this latest one of sexual assault, to sitting out 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:36.920 basically almost two entire seasons, one year essentially on the 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:39.600 commissioner's list. A second year he had I think it 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.959 was an eleven game suspension. There's been conversations about that 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.440 this could be considered the worst trade in NFL history, 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:52.120 and if you look at it from a value standpoint, 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:55.119 this is by far the worst trade and National Football 0:17:55.160 --> 0:18:01.120 League history. The Texans fleeced the Cleveland brown fleeced them. 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:03.800 Did you see what they what they gave up? It's 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.399 the first round and they've hit on all the picks 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:06.000 they got too. 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:09.000 But most importantly, they gave up two hundred and forty 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:15.000 million dollars guaranteed, guaranteed, And I got a feeling that 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:21.160 the Cleveland Browns organization is quietly hoping that this latest 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.880 allegation leads to a league suspension and they can get 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:26.560 out from underneath of the contract to Deshaun Watson. I 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.080 wouldn't be a bit surprised. I mean, look what they 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:34.960 gave up. They gave up. The Texans got Cleveland's twenty 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:38.439 twenty two first and fourth round picks. They got the 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.920 first and the third in the in the twenty twenty 0:18:41.960 --> 0:18:45.719 three draft, and then in this past Springs draft they 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.879 got the first in the fourth. You're talking three first 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.840 round picks, two fours in a three move for the 0:18:52.880 --> 0:18:54.760 guy that's played thirteen games. 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.560 Packaged some of those to move up and get Will 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:58.680 Anderson at the third pick and all that stuff. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:03.199 Yeah, it's something, it's it's I mean, the Herschel Walker 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:04.359 trade was not good. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.080 That's probably the number one all time like one sided 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:12.840 deal because multiple Super Bowls of the Dallas Cowboys and 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:17.680 multiple foundational building blocks of the Jimmy Johnson led Cowboys. 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:20.399 So I mean, I think that one still goes. But 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:25.760 I mean from just a monetary performance standpoint, this is 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:29.439 the worst. I mean, by far, this is the worst. 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.840 Can he get back to the form that he had 0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:34.520 with the Texans, I don't know. I think he made 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.000 what a couple of Pro Bowls or one Pro Bowl 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:40.680 two or three. I think it was back in the day, 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:42.880 and he was a thread on the ground as well 0:19:42.920 --> 0:19:43.720 as with his arm. 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:46.080 He was six and zero against this team as a starter. 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:49.560 Last time he played the Jags was twenty twenty. Though 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:51.760 it's been a while. Yeah, I don't know, different world, 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:52.639 and you. 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.639 Know, and everything that's going on with the off the 0:19:56.680 --> 0:20:01.320 field stuff is getting very loud for him, very loud. 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.400 And then when you have a performance like they had 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.080 offensively last week with the Cleveland Browns, it gets even 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:10.720 louder with the off the field stuff. If you're all right, 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.600 let's say you're the Jaguars defense, then and you see 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:16.440 Deshaun Watson out there with some backup tackles, even though 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.920 the backup right tackles started most every game last year 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:23.800 and the tight ends out, how do you attack this 0:20:24.040 --> 0:20:27.760 Brown's offense to? What do you begin on this offense? 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:29.560 I might I might have a little bit of smack 0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.640 talk about the off the field stuff. Okay, I'm sure 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:37.359 you would, that's you, yes, I mean you know, I mean, 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:39.720 why not try to get a guy off his game? 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:42.800 I mean, why would you not try that? Don't I 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.840 don't know. I mean, there's to do what you do. 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.280 And I was never one to talk a whole lot 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.320 on the football field, but stop it. And I was 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.240 I was not that I was not. I was born 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.480 at night. It wasn't last night. I was not. But 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.960 there were some guys that were incredibly good at it, yes, 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.679 and I left it to them. And the ones that 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:07.600 were incredibly good at it, like John Randall. Can you 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.720 imagine John Randall getting ready to play Deshaun Watson this week? 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:15.640 I mean, John Randall was one of the best. Here's 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.080 the question, Ryan Nielsen, drawing it up on the board. 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:20.680 Where do you start to attack? Got it? You gotta 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:24.159 attack him and pressure him early because in the Dallas 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.840 Cowboys game, he started that game and he kept his 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:29.760 eyes down the field because look, he's got two very 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:33.320 good wide receivers, Mary Cooper, Pro Bowl wide receiver, Jerry Judy, 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.879 really good wide receiver they got in the trade with 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:40.400 the Denver Broncos. I believe, I mean, really good football players. 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:43.879 But the offensive line was not very good. And so 0:21:43.960 --> 0:21:46.600 the game started out with Michael Parsons just being an 0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:50.760