1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I have someone who 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: I love chatting with with me today, Rich Zioli from 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: Philadelphia's Talk Radio. Rich, thank you so much for joining me. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: Well, Tutor, I love chatting with you and it's been 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 2: too long, so thank you for having me on this 6 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: pre Thanksgiving extravaganza. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate it absolutely and there's so much to go over, 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: which I feel like sometimes towards the holidays there's a 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: little bit of a lull, but this past week has 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: been filled with just a lot, quite a lot of 11 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: gems that I wanted to discuss with you, So thank you. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. 13 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: Just don't ask me to defy any military orders. Okay, 14 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: don't do that. 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: We actually that, So that is one of them because 16 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: Alyssa Slotkin, who was I guess I would say she 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: was kind of the lead in that video. So if 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: you don't know what Rich is talking about, there was 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: this video of were they all senators some. 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: Members of the House actually, like a guy named Jason 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: Crow who I never heard of before and it sounds 22 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 2: me up, but he was in there too. 23 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: So they were all like former military they all and 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: Elissa Slotkin, who was a senator in Michigan. She was 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: the leader of it, and I have a theory on her. 26 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: She was the leader who was like, you know, if please, 27 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: we were begging you not to commit illegal or allow 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: the president to give you illegal orders, which then was 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: this whole firestorm of the president like this is a 30 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: seditious act. They're telling the military to defy the commander 31 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: in chief, right, yeah. 32 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: And the thing about it is that they kept saying 33 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: illegal orders, illegal orders, but then when they asked them, well, like, 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: what illegal orders are happening? 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: Like nothing. 36 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: In fact, that one guy, Jason Krogho I mentioned, brought 37 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: up Abu Grab, which was what twenty five years ago, 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: and then he brought up Vietnam and he's like, well, 39 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: there was a guy in Vietnam once who gave an 40 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: order that was illegal and went to jail. I'm sorry, 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: did we go back in time? Why are we bringing 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: up Vietnam here? So they couldn't actually bring up a 43 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: specific examples tutor of any illegal order as a commander 44 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: in chief has given, either in this term or the 45 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: other term. But they're like, but if it does happen, 46 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: you know, And the timing of. 47 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 3: This is interesting too, because there's this movie Nuremberg that 48 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 3: just came out. 49 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: So I actually think that the people behind the movie 50 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: paid these idiots to make the video to try to 51 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: help get people talking about war crimes. 52 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 3: That's my theory. 53 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: So so Alissa was asked over the weekend by ABC, wells, 54 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: have you seen any illegal orders being given? And she 55 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: was like, I wouldn't say illegal, but I would say 56 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: there's legal gymnastics with what we're seeing with these boats out. 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: So my theory on her, I just want to say. 58 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: I had the wonderful Stacey Washington on the podcast last 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: week and she had a great theory on Michelle Obama. 60 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: She said, I've never thought Michelle Obama was running ever, 61 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: but when she was interviewed, she was, you know, she's 62 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: doing this glow up thing. She's lost weight, she's working out, 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: she's got her hair well. Apparently she's had to do 64 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: her hair straight for a long time because of us 65 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: people out here that have straight hair. I don't know 66 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: she's complaining that the white people of the country have 67 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: made her straighten her hair. But I saw her doing 68 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: a photo shoot over the weekend. Just not to digress, 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: but just for a moment, I saw her doing this 70 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: photo shoot over the weekend, and I don't think that 71 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: they There were two. One she had braids in and 72 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: one she had her hair kind of like curled straightened 73 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: but curled a little under, And I think that she 74 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: chose both hairstyles. I don't think anybody forced her into it, 75 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: because she looked really happy. In fact, the one with 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: the braids, she looked a little bit a little bit crabby. 77 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: The one with her hair, I don't know if you 78 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: saw this, she had this like fancy shirt on with 79 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: these ribbons coming off of it, wind blowing, she's dancing. 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: She looked thrilled. So I think it's a lie that 81 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: she doesn't like to have her hair straightened. I think 82 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: she enjoys it. But Stacy was saying that because of 83 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: this and this new attitude, you know, dancing and all 84 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: of that, she thinks that she is considering a run. 85 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: I say it's Alyssa Slotkin because she's done the same thing. 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody's said this before, but she 87 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 1: has gone through a real serious glam up. 88 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: She has a new well. 89 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,119 Speaker 1: Her hairstyle when she's running for senate was like still 90 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: the same, but more in her face and no makeup. 91 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: She was no makeup girl for sure. Now she has 92 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: really glamorous makeup. The hair is a little bit more controlled, 93 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: and she's also lost quite a bit of weight. She 94 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: has had a major glow up. And I think she's 95 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: running for president president, Yes, I do. I think she's 96 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: going for vice president, but I think she'll be on 97 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: the ticket in twenty eight. 98 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: Well, I've spent most of the morning with my hair 99 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 2: in rollers crollers, because you know, I thought I was 100 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: supposed to curl my hair. Everybody's talking about Michelle Obama 101 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: running for years. It's always been the theory that Michelle 102 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: Obama was going to throw her hat into the ring, 103 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 2: and if she does, then she wins and she domin everything, 104 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: and she clearly has no interest in doing it. 105 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: I've lost money on that over the years, Tutor. 106 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: As far as Lisis Lockin goes, I mean, why not 107 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 2: everybody else is running for president twenty twenty eight. Whitmer 108 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: was hanging out with Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro at the 109 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 2: Eagles game last week, not the one that they lost 110 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: to Dallas this week, which was just an abomination. And 111 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: they're hanging out together, and I see those two as 112 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: a ticket, potentially a Whitmer Shapiro ticket. But you know 113 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: this is I mean, every Democrat's running, and why not 114 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 2: the parties in free fall? 115 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: The party's in chaos. They don't know who the leader 116 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: of the Democrat Party is. 117 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: I saw recently there was a poll on this issue 118 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: and they asked people and the number one answer was 119 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. 120 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: Number two I think was Kamala Harrison. 121 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: Number three was something like I have no frigging clue, 122 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: which is basically the same thing as number one. 123 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 3: So nobody knows who's in charge of the Democrat Party. 124 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 3: Is it Bertie? Is it aoc is at ma'am Donnie? 125 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 2: Although his clout I think went down a lot after 126 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: the meeting with the President in the Oval Office. So 127 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: you know, Gavin Newsom's running with his glorious hair that 128 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 2: you and I have talked about many times before, even 129 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: on the run a Fox New Saturday night. 130 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: He has to do a lot with his hair too. 131 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: These Democrats have hair. They have hair, and I think 132 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: that you could very easily make the argument that you've 133 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: been oppressed with your curly hair. 134 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: I believe it. 135 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: I believe so, And why I'm not more successful in 136 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 2: life is because of my curly hair. People judge me 137 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: and say that it's been a thing, and I've tried 138 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: to relax it over the years, but you know, I'm 139 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 2: just lucky to have hair at this point, Tutor, I 140 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 2: feel really lucky about it. 141 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: There are a lot of men that are jealous of you. 142 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, years of propecia and rogaine and hair transplants 143 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: and no. But I do think that there is something 144 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: to the fact that everybody now is clearly on nozembic 145 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 2: or something. Because you mentioned how these politicians have lost weight. 146 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 2: My only question is when is JB. 147 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: Pritzker going to start? 148 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: I know, I know, you know, the President gives him 149 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: a lot of crap for that, But I love how 150 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: Donald Trump talks about it. 151 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: Is it. 152 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: He's like, it's like the fat drug, but it doesn't 153 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: work for everybody. It doesn't work for everybody. Not everybody's 154 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: just wait yeah, yes, yes, Well, one person that we 155 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: didn't talk about who has always been very glamorous and 156 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: I you know who knows could be senate, could be 157 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: President Jasmine Crockett. 158 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 2: Josh, Well, I guess it's true that the brains only 159 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: run skin deep. With Jasmine Crockett, because she's a gift 160 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: that keeps on giving. I mean, she's a permanent SoundBite machine. 161 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: I know she is lovely. I love Okay, So last 162 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: week the Epstein vote went through, and I'm sure you 163 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: all saw, but in case you didn't, Jasmine, who was 164 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: very beautified. I have to say she does always look beautiful. 165 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: She's always got her hair perfectly done, she always has 166 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: her makeup perfectly done. And she was She went on 167 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: the house floor and she said she was going to 168 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: just let the truth it was flagfly because she was 169 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: gonna let us all know that all these people had 170 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: taken money from a man named Jeffrey Epstein, and it 171 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: was all of these people and they were all Republicans, 172 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Mitt Romney and all kinds of and the and Win 173 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: Read and all these things. And then she goes on 174 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: Cian Anna, Caitlin and Collins. It's like, but you know, 175 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: like that wasn't the same Jeffrey Epstein. 176 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: She doubled down on it too, right, She's like, well, 177 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: I never said it was the same Jeffrey Epstein. 178 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: I had no Jeffrey epstcene. 179 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: I time to research that. I had to just put 180 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 1: it out there. 181 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 2: I mean, and then she was, well, we googled it, 182 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: but you know, but they didn't google enough, you know, 183 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: they just sort of semi googled, not fully googled. And 184 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: then she was, I didn't mislead anyone. I didn't say 185 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: it was Jeffrey Epstein. I just said it was Jeffrey Epstein. 186 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: I mean, it's the most my numbing clip I've ever 187 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: seen in my life. She just refused to acknowledge. And 188 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 2: she made a mistake, she said, double down. 189 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: She didn't make a mistake. She knew, I mean even 190 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: and when you watch her announcing it in that hearing 191 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: or whatever it was that she was in, when she 192 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: announces it on the floor, you can tell she knows 193 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: because she says, we did a quick search, and so 194 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: what we found is that this Jeffrey Epstein gave money. 195 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: And who was it that came out and said, no, 196 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: this wasn't Lee Alden. Yeah, Leese Alden was on the 197 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: list too, and Lee Alden's like, you, moron, this is 198 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: not the same Jeffrey Epstein. But the beauty of this 199 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: this is this guy. I love him. So the doctor 200 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein who actually gave money, he went up on 201 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: one of the shows over the weekend, and he's like, 202 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: I did give to Jasmine Crockett just so that I 203 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: would be on her list. 204 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: Too, which I think is lovely. I'm like, I love 205 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: you, You're amazing. But she knew, so this is the manipulation 206 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 4: of politics today. She knew it wasn't him, she knew 207 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 4: it wasn't the maybe dead Jeffrey Epstein. She knew was 208 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: not the dirty guy. She knew it was a different person. 209 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: But she goes out there and then she goes on CNN. 210 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: And what makes me crazy about this is do you 211 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: think for a second that Caitlyn Collins would have calmly 212 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 4: sat there and slightly prodded. 213 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: But but you know, it's not the same. Do you 214 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: want to apologize? And she's like, you know, I don't. 215 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: She would just not even concede that it was not 216 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: the same. She's like, I said it was Jeffrey Epstein. 217 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: I didn't say it was the Jeffrey Epstein. If that 218 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: were a Republican, Kaitlyn Collins would have gone. 219 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: Mad, yeah, and it would have deservedly. So, I mean, 220 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: it's the idea that there's only one person named Jeffrey Epstein, 221 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: in a country of three hundred and fifty million people, 222 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: or that anyone named Jeffrey Epstein is as bad as 223 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein just because of the name, as if it's 224 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: not the person, it's the name that causes you to 225 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: be a sick pedophile, you know, and so you're just 226 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: born that way. It's beyond ridiculous. She knew what she 227 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: was doing. She was purposely trying to associate Lee's Elden 228 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 2: with that. His response on Twitter was great when he 229 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: called her a freaking and I love that he used 230 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: the word like freaking, like you're a freaking genius, you know. 231 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: But it just shows what a clown show this whole 232 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: thing has been because for all these years Democrats have 233 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 2: been trying to obfuscate this sutor and you know this, 234 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 2: I mean they took money from this guy. I mean 235 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: the Democrat National Committee did. Ken Martin as chairman, was 236 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 2: defending this, so they try to associate Republicans. Well, it 237 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: turns out, yeah, there's a doctor named Jeffrey Epstein somewhere 238 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 2: who gave money to Leez Elden, and that guy's now 239 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: the most famous doctor in America, I think. And people 240 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: are probably lining up to go see the guy. Now 241 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: at this point, you know, they're like, we are sure 242 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: we heard. 243 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: About you so well. 244 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: And in the midst of this you have you what 245 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: we're uncovering here, And I think it's fascinating so far 246 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: because what we've uncovered is that there there have been 247 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: some people that have been associated with Jeffrey Epstein. And 248 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: this was after he was already convicted. So he was 249 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: convicted in twenty twelve. People knew who he was. It 250 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a mystery as to how dirty Jeffrey Epstein was. 251 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: But you've got Stacy Plaskett who is actually texting him 252 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: in the middle of a hearing, and they have not 253 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy because if you watch that video, 254 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: they have the text messages and you can see in 255 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: the video she looks down at her phone and then 256 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: she and then she says, I'm just about to go 257 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: and then she says exactly what Jeffrey Epstein tells her 258 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: to say. You can watch it in real time happening 259 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: on the video. And this was what Caitlyn Collins was 260 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: asking Jasmine Crockett about. Well, wait a minute, what do 261 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: you say about the fact that one of your Democrat 262 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: colleagues was talking to. Well, she didn't know he was pedophile. No, 263 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: everybody knew what his deal was at that point in life. 264 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: And she says, well, he was a constituent. He was 265 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: controlling a hearing, essentially controlling a representative. One person who 266 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: is a convicted felon is controlling a congresswoman who is 267 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: testifying or she's in a hearing against Trump. I mean, 268 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: we know that this was an anti Trump hearing. 269 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that's it. 270 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: I mean right here to the they just think, God, 271 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,839 Speaker 2: they weren't a lot of emojis used, because I've had 272 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 2: it with that, you know what I mean, Thank god 273 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: it in celebratory balloons and hearts. But the idea that 274 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: they would use him to try to bring down Donald Trump, 275 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: and it wasn't just her. I mean, what you're talking 276 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: about is so egregious because she's an elected member of Congress. 277 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: It's a congressional hearing. She's texting him, trying to get 278 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: dirt on Donald Trump, trying to help bring down this 279 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 2: presidential candidate. Michael Wolfe, the disgraced journalist. He reached out 280 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: to Jeffrey Epstein too, So even though they knew who 281 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: this guy was because I think anybody before the conviction 282 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: in twenty twelve, you got to pass. I mean, you're 283 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: with this guy unless you specifically know. I refuse to 284 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 2: do the guilt by association thing. If people had dinner 285 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: with them, if they went out with them, whatever. Unless 286 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: you knew specifically what he was doing, and you probably didn't, 287 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: then fine. But after that point, from that point forward, 288 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: if you're texting with him and you knew that he's 289 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: solicited an underage girl, that's on you and to do 290 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: so because your justification is he's my constituent, because I 291 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: love that. She's like, well, I mean he lives in 292 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 2: the Virgin Islands. I represent the Virgin Islands, so we're 293 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: texting about things. That's why you have congressional staff members 294 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: to do. I ran a congressional office many many years ago. 295 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: I was in charge of constituent relations. That's something you 296 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: pass off to a staff member. You're not getting a 297 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 2: social Security check, your veterans affairs check. Fine, you have 298 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: a constituent services officer deal with it. When the Member 299 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: of Congress is directly talking to somebody, it's because that 300 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 2: person is very, very important, and I still can't find 301 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: what the constituent related issue was other than we. 302 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: Both want to bring down Donald Trump. 303 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: We both hate Donald Trump, which proves that Donald Trump 304 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: did nothing with Jeffrey Epstein because they were searching Tutor, 305 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: they were trying everywhere, every rock they could uncover, and 306 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: he hated Trump. 307 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: Scuts, he wanted to see Trump come down. He just 308 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: had nothing to give her. 309 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 310 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Two things there. You don't just 311 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: have your congressman's private cell phone number. I mean, really, 312 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: how many people have their congressman's private cell phone. It's 313 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: not like your constituents are like, okay, so here's my 314 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: number for all of you if you ever want to 315 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: call or text in the middle of a hearing, I 316 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: got you. 317 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: That's not normal. That is not normal. 318 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: And then the second thing is this is this to me, 319 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: is serious evidence that Epstein hated him. Ye hated Trump 320 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: and he wanted to take him down. Was this was 321 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: in the MP times, This was the time they were 322 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: working to destroy him, not just take him out of office. 323 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: They wanted to destroy him and Epstein was a part 324 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: of that. 325 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent, You're exactly right. You're spot on. 326 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: He hated him, their feud went back many years business feud, 327 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 2: and if there was something he could have offered to 328 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: bring down Donald Trump that would not have directly implicated him, 329 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: of course he certainly would have no question about it. 330 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: But it also points out that they were looking into 331 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein to bring down Donald Trump. So even if 332 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: he had not shared something because it would have implicated him, 333 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: which you know is logical reason, right, it still shows 334 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: that they were looking into this. And then if they 335 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: believe there was something there. Okay, fine, maybe twenty sixteen 336 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: you don't really dig too deep because the woman running 337 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: for president, well, her husband certainly had a lot of 338 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 2: connections with Jeffrey Epstein, so maybe you don't look. 339 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: In that direction. 340 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: But you know this as a as a person who's 341 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: run for say, white office. Opposition research is so key 342 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: to a race, and they do a lot of it. 343 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: I mean they find out if you put your garbage 344 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: and didn't mix your recycling. I mean, anything they can 345 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: use against you, they'll use against you. So they certainly 346 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: would have used it in twenty twenty and then the 347 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: four years they're in control of the Justice Apartment where 348 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 2: they're going after Donald Trump because they're saying that, well, 349 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 2: mar Lago's not worth what you said it is. 350 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 3: It's really only worth nineteen ninety nine. And if you buy, 351 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 3: you know, you buy it now, you also get a 352 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 3: free set of dishes. I mean, it's ridiculous. 353 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: Anything they could use against him, they would the full 354 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: resources of the United States Department of Justice was going 355 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: after him. So you mean to tell me that if 356 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: they thought there was something related to Jeffrey Epstein, they 357 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: wouldn't have brought. 358 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: It up like they would have been like, ah, you 359 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 3: know what, forget that one. 360 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 2: Let's just go after the fact that he said this 361 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: building's only worth six hundred or is worth six hundred 362 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: million dollars, and we say it's worth five hundred million dollars. 363 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 3: I mean, it's absurd. 364 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: So let me ask you, because the Epstein files obviously 365 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: became a huge, huge deal when Trump was an after 366 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: his inauguration, and you had people on both sides saying 367 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: we need these files. I've always said it very interesting 368 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: because no one was screaming about it for the four 369 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: years that Joe Biden was in office. I mean, on 370 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: either side, this is what blows my mind. I'm like, well, 371 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: if you thought exactly what you just said, if you 372 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: thought there was something on Trump, you would have gotten 373 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: those files then. But Marjorie Taylor Green was one of them. 374 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: She was out there. She started to really hit on 375 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: the Republican Party. She started to hit on Speaker Johnson, 376 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: she was hitting on the president. She was taking these 377 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: kind of cheap shots some people thought from the MAGA world. 378 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: But there's this, there's a development over the weekend. She's 379 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: decided she's going to resign on January fifth. I believe 380 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: that's when she gets her pensions. So she's decided she'll 381 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: stay until then. That's a kick in the teeth too, 382 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: just for people who don't know to resign instead of 383 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: just say I'm not going to run again, that's a 384 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: kick in the teeth because you leave a seat open. 385 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: And she's doing that on purpose. Now there's a theory 386 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: that she is the one that people see as truly maga. 387 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: The President has said, you know, I like her a lot. 388 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry it went this way. We know that he 389 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: had gone to her early on and said, you your 390 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: pulling doesn't look good for you for senate. Don't run 391 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: for senate, and she is a far the right person. 392 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: In a state like Georgia, the Senate is hard to 393 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: run for it is not a red state. It is 394 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 1: a truly purple state. For someone who is a far 395 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: right conservative, it's it would have been a really tough road, 396 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: and that was what she was told. The story is 397 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: that that private conversation made her upset and she decided 398 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: that she was going to go against the president. And 399 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: a lot of that was through the Epstein files. But 400 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: now she's resigned. Do you believe this theory that in 401 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: twenty eight she's the one left standing that's considered the 402 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: MAGA candidate. 403 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: Well, that's a really interesting question, Tutor Dixon. I would 404 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 2: say the first thing is this, I would not be 405 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 2: shocked if she ends up being a CNN contributor starting 406 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 2: on January sixth. I would not be shocked at all 407 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 2: to see that she's been going on that network. 408 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 3: More and more. That network is trying to bring on 409 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 3: more conservative voices. 410 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: Your schedules limited as a member of Congress, and how 411 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 2: many times you can do that. So they may be 412 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: throwing some cash away, and apparently she's made some cash. 413 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: It's a member of Congress, which is of course not 414 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: at all surprising there is. I mean, the problem here 415 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 2: with Epsteine, as far as MAGA world is concerned, is 416 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: that many people promised that they would get to the 417 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: truth of Jeffrey Epstein. So you had a lot of 418 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: online influencers and other people who kept saying repeatedly that 419 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: if Trump wins, we're going to finally get to the 420 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: truth of Jeffrey Epstein. It's been a cover up, the 421 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 2: Biden administration's covered it up, and we're going to finally 422 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: get this out. Then the Attorney General does what I 423 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: think is still to this day, I cannot figure out 424 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 2: what that was all about. When she brings these influencers 425 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 2: into the White House or a complex, very weird hands 426 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: and binders, and says the truth is coming out, makes 427 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 2: a whole big song and dance about it, and then 428 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: suddenly it's like, oh, oops, these are maybe it's invisible link. 429 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 2: I don't know, there's nothing here, And that just made 430 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 2: people furious. And so for people within MAGA, I guess 431 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 2: as we'll use that term, and we're really talking, in 432 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: my opinion, about a lot of online influencers that caused 433 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 2: a tremendous blow up. 434 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: There's this obviously civil war. 435 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 2: Going on right now, as you know, over Israel, and 436 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 2: there's that whole battle that's taking place there too. 437 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a mess right now. 438 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: Trump is not going to run again, and I don't 439 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 2: think there's anyone who can hold that coalition together except 440 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump. I mean, Jade Vance camp Mark or 441 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: Rubio camp they just can't. Trump's a once in a 442 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,959 Speaker 2: lifetime candidate. This is it, and he's the only one 443 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: who's able to, even when he does things that MAGA 444 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily prove of, still generally hold the coalition together. 445 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 2: The coalition is breaking apart already. And so the question 446 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: that becomes is is a MAGA candidate really the future 447 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: of the Republican Party. I think that's the better question, 448 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: And is there would that person still be able to 449 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: bring over traditional Republicans and MAGA and unite them. I 450 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: don't see Marjorie Taylor Green being that person. She may 451 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: be able to coalesce a lot of MAGA, but then again, 452 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: when the President called her a trader, there were a 453 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: lot of people within that universe who suddenly turned on her. 454 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 2: He has that ability, has that power, that effect to 455 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 2: be able to kind of redirect people towards or age. 456 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: They don't just they stick with him. I mean, there's 457 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: a strong coalition that sticks with him. Let's take a 458 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: quick commercial break. We'll continue next on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 459 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: I believe that he. 460 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: Still has the grassroots significantly. I mean, I think that 461 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: people will only come out for him. There are people 462 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: who won't. I mean know it, I mean Michigan. I 463 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: know that there is a yes, yes, exactly. And yet 464 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: there are i would say traditional supporters of the Republican 465 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: Party who refuse to accept this, and they believe that 466 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: they can go back to what the party used to 467 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: be used to look like before Donald Trump. I think 468 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: that that's a disaster. I know it's a disaster. I 469 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: know that we lose a massive amount of people that 470 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: would vote if you get rid of that mindset, that 471 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: make America great again mindset. And yet I know for 472 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: a fact, in the state of Michigan, we have traditional 473 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: supporters of the Republican Party who have gone to the 474 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: biggest donors in the state and said, we're not going 475 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: to give to the federal elections this time. We're only 476 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: going to focus on state. Why would that be unless 477 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: you were trying to kill mega. Yeah. 478 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: So Jersey broke my heart recently when my friend Jack 479 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 2: shitdareally lost what we all thought was going to be 480 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 2: a close race that he had a really strong chance 481 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: of winning, and the polling was way off on this 482 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: and everything, and then you find out that seventy percent 483 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: of the people that came out to vote for President 484 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: Trump voted for Jack, which meant that the other thirty 485 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: percent again did not vote. 486 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: And this is a problem that we see. We see this. 487 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 2: There was a special election in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, Tutor 488 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, a county that the President. 489 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: Crushed it in. 490 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 2: This was supposed to be a layup and a Democrat 491 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: won this special election, small election, it was nothing, but 492 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: because again, voters who vote for Trump don't vote for 493 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 2: other Republicans. 494 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: They just vote for him. 495 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: And so what I think you're also going to see 496 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 2: is this battle to try to take the Republican Party 497 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: and bring it back, like you're saying, to a different time, 498 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 2: a pre Trump era. 499 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: And the real question as I. 500 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: Look at some of these figures who are emerging in 501 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, Ted Cruz, Marc rub do they go 502 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: back to that because that's where they were. Obviously, is 503 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: a battle President Trump in the primary Jen or does 504 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: Rubios now say, hey, listen, I'm team make America great again. 505 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 3: On that team and that team literally is or a 506 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 3: Rubio in JD vance ticket. It'd be very interesting to 507 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 3: watch that. 508 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: But there's no question in my mind a lot of 509 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: this is going to be determined by what happens in 510 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: the midterms. Because if we get smoked in the midterms, 511 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: then there's a very compelling argument for people to make 512 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: to say the Republican Party needs to go back to 513 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: the pre Donald Trump era. Otherwise it's toast and that 514 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 2: battle will play out. I'm not suggesting that it should. 515 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 2: I'm just simply saying that that's what people are going 516 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: to start saying. Donors are going to start saying it. 517 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: I remember sitting down with a very rich Republican in Pennsylvania, 518 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 2: like a billionaire, the richest guy in the state actually, 519 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: and this was before the twenty twenty four election, but 520 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 2: he was convinced that Trump could not win again. And 521 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: I said, I completely disagree with you on this point, 522 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: but he wanted to back you know, the governor of Florida, 523 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 2: Ron DeSantis. He just said, we can't win now that 524 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 2: Trump is out of the equation, and he will be 525 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: out of the equation in twenty twenty eight if we 526 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: get smoked in midterms, and we look at the losses 527 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 2: in Jersey, we look at the losses in Virginia. We 528 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 2: don't know what losses we may have in twenty twenty six. 529 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: I mean, you know it's I mean. 530 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: Then the argument then is going to be, now that 531 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 2: Trump is gone, MAGA can't go forward, So we can't 532 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: back jd events. We have to go back to a 533 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: more traditional Republican, even though ironically enough he was one 534 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: at one point, right and back a DeSantis or back 535 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz or whoever. So I predict that that is 536 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,719 Speaker 2: the way things are going to be, dependent upon how 537 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 2: things go in twenty six. And there's donors races and 538 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 2: senators races too. 539 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: There are there are donors actively working to tank the 540 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: midterms to make that happen. Where head to years of 541 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: Trump not being able to accomplish anything and impeachments and 542 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: all of that hell, just to go back to what 543 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: they believe is the party they want, and they believe 544 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: that because they have the money, they get to choose it. 545 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what the grassroots wants. I'm telling you, I 546 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: know what's happening. 547 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: Oh man, that is scary. I don't like hearing that. 548 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised, though it doesn't surprise me. 549 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Tootir So I just want to end on one last thing, 550 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: and that is the Oval Office meeting with Mam Donnie. 551 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,119 Speaker 1: We have to go over it. We have to go 552 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: over it because I suspected that it would go this way, 553 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: and I think that some people don't necessarily know what 554 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: Trump did there. It doesn't matter if Trump embraces Mom Donnie. 555 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: The MAGA people know exactly what he's doing. It doesn't 556 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: matter if he even taps him on the back and 557 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: says it's okay call me a fascist. They know you 558 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: think that it totally castrated Mom Donnie. 559 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally yeah. Yeah, he's a gelding after that. 560 00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: And I think that. 561 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: Trump had nothing to lose obviously by being nice to 562 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: the guy and you know, coosing up to him. I mean, 563 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 2: I guess you could make an argument that maybe he 564 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 2: would normalize, help normalize a communist, but I don't really 565 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: think that that's a big problem. But for Mam Donnie 566 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: to now have to look AOC and the I and 567 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 2: these other wackos in the squad after that, after kissing 568 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: up to him like that and being his bestie, woof. 569 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: I mean, because they have spent the entire time saying 570 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: he's this existential threat, he's Hitler, he's a fascist. When 571 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: Bill Maher had dinner with Donald Trump, just dinner, and 572 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: it wasn't even public, and he goes on his show 573 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 2: and he says, it's a different guy than the guy 574 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: you see in public, and Larry David writes this op 575 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: ed in the New York Times to mock him, saying, 576 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: my dinner with Hitler, And the whole point of that was, oh, 577 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,719 Speaker 2: you know, Trump's Hitler. You can't act like this as 578 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: a normal guy. Well, for Mam Donnie to sit there 579 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: and be, you know, BFFs with the guy as they're 580 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: out there saying he's the existential threat, he's a fascist, 581 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: he's Hitler, He's destroying democracy, that just completely undermines their argument. 582 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 2: And for him now to go back as this little 583 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: gelding who has you no jewels now and look these 584 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: people in the eye and say, oh, I'm still going 585 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 2: to fight him. 586 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to fight him at every turn, it's. 587 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: Like, stop, you got snacks, you got Oval office snacks 588 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: and probably souvenirs. 589 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: You got a T shirt out of it. 590 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: No, it was lovely because beforehand I thought it was 591 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: great watching him explain it's my staff set up this meeting, 592 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: and I thought, you are the incoming mayor, now the 593 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: mayor elect. You cannot say your staff did something that 594 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: you didn't approve. You can't blame your staff. That's not 595 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: how this works anymore. So he first of all, he 596 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: doesn't even want to acknowledge that he wanted the meeting, 597 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: and he does. He needs the meeting. He can't do 598 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: what he said he was going to do, and he's 599 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: figured that out. But the beauty of it, like I 600 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: loved when when Gretchen Whitmer was standing in there with 601 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: the folder in front of her face, because that is 602 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: a campaign ad for Gavin Newsom all day long and 603 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: twice it is great. I love the fact that she 604 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: did that and I and I will love every time 605 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: I see it when I won the commercials play because 606 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: she looked like such a moron and he played her, 607 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: but he played mom Donnie so much better because he 608 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: asked him behind the desk, like he's a partner smacking 609 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: him like, get there, chums. It was and it's I said, 610 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: I was on a show the night before. They're like, 611 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: what do you think it's going to be? Is it 612 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: going to be a big smack down? And I'm like, 613 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: he's gonna he is going to pat him on the 614 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: hat or on the back, maybe even on the head. 615 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: And it was as close to patty him on the 616 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: head as you can get. 617 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: I mean, great prediction by you, well done. Yeah, it 618 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 3: was like a Buddy movie. I get Buddy totally. 619 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: You know, the communists and the fascists is like, hey, 620 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: you know we both call each other names, we love 621 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: each other's stepbrothers or something. 622 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 3: I mean, it was. I was watching it. We took 623 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 3: it live on my radio show, and I when it ended, 624 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: I said. 625 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: I don't know what that was, but I'll tell you something. 626 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 2: I said, you couldn't have written that any better. From 627 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: the perspect of if you hate Donald Trump and you 628 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 2: were so ready for him to be rude to Ma'm donnie, 629 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: and then you're like. 630 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 3: Oh my god, he was nice to the guy. 631 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 2: And if you were the the AOC crowd and you're like, oh, 632 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 2: he's gonna really show this fascist what's coming as this 633 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: Democrat revolutions underway, because let's not forget something. I mean, 634 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: that's been their argument, right, that Maam Donnie is now 635 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: the leader of not just the Democrat Party but basically 636 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: like America. Like he's the other president. And he was 637 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: in there and he's like, I love him here. This 638 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: is so nice. He's so nice to me. He's just 639 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: gosh golly. He even defended the fact that I flew 640 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 2: here and didn't take a train like every other schlub 641 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: who comes to DC from New York. You know. 642 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: I mean, he couldn't have. 643 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: Defended him any more if they were like, yeah, but 644 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: that tie choice Trump like, it's a beautiful tie, looks 645 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: great on it. 646 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 3: It brings out his eyes. He could not have defended 647 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: the guy anymore. And so it was just like, ma'am Donnie, 648 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: look here. 649 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 2: Remind even of a little kid who got to go 650 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: billing president in the Oval office and hopefully got some 651 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: of the souvenir eminem's out of it. 652 00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, I'm sure. 653 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure he went home with a cookie with the seal. 654 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm so happy about it too. It was lovely. I 655 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: was and this is and this, ladies and gentlemen, is 656 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: why Magga cannot go away, because these are the moments 657 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: that we live for. Is to watch him humiliate a 658 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: man in his office without this little boy even understanding 659 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: what's happening. It was delicious. It's always fun talking to you, Richdally. 660 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being on the podcast. 661 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me Tutor. It's always a blast. 662 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely, and thank you all for joining the 663 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon podcast. Remember you can get it on the 664 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts, 665 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: and watch it on Rumble or YouTube at Tutor Dixon. 666 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,479 Speaker 1: Thanks so much and have a blessed day.