1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Just when you think Hollywood can't sink any lower, one 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: of the biggest studios in town pushes pedophilia, and another 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: huge Hollywood studio sucks up to one of the worst 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: regimes on Earth. This is Verdict with Ted Cruz. Welcome 5 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: back to Verdict with Ted Cruz. I'm Michael Knowles, joined 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: as ever by the Senator. I do want to get 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: to Cutie's. I do want to get to Mulan, But 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: first there is some breaking legal news, and I guess 9 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about the legality of everything. Actually, 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: two bits of news that involve you, Senator. One is 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: your new book, your upcoming book, One Vote Away, How 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: a single Supreme Court Seat can Change History, that is 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: coming out in about three weeks. And then related to that, 14 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: you have been added to the shortlist to the President's 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: shortlist for the Supreme Court. So I have to ask you, 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: will you be that one seat that can change history? No, 17 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be. I'm very happy where I am. 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: Come on, you're not gonna do it, but it matters immensely. 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: I don't want the job, but but but I do 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: care a great deal about who gets it. And and 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: that book that's a book I've been working on really 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 1: since this spring. I spent the spring and summer during 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Lockdown writing it. And actually the copy you're holding is 24 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: the first hard copy I've actually seen that it is 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: like a physical, real book. We literally just got that 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: a few minutes ago. October sixth is when it's going 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: to be released, although it's on Amazon now for pre order. 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: It's also if you go to one votaway dot com 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: that'll connect you to Amazon, you can pre order it there. 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: And what the book does is it really goes through 31 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: all of the fundamental constitutional liberties that are hanging in 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: the balance at the court. And each chapter in the 33 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: book is a different constitutional liberty. So there's a chapter 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: on free speech, there's a chapter on religious liberty. There's 35 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: a chapter on the Second Amendment. There's a chapter on 36 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: US sovereignty. There's a chapter on politics and elections that 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: talks in depth about Bush versus Gore, something that could 38 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: well be highly relevant in another two months as we 39 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: see Democrats in all likelihood litigating the results of this election. 40 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: Could you could have Bush versus score at times fifty 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: all over the place and multiple jurisdictions, And what the 42 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: book tries to do is just It tells the inside 43 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: stories of the major landmark cases, many of which I 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: helped litigate it. So I was I was in the 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: middle of a lot of these cases, and so Bush 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: versus Gore. I was a young lawyer as part of 47 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: George W. Bush's legal team. So I tell the inside stories. 48 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: And you know, it's designed to be interesting, to be accessible. 49 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: You don't have to be a lawyer to read it. 50 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: It's designed to really tell you, all right, what's what's 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: going on in these cases, what's going on at the court. 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: Why do I as an American care about Supreme Court nominations? 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: And what stunning and most people don't realize is just 54 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: how many of our fundamental liberties are hanging by a 55 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: single vote, either positive or negative. In some cases, one 56 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: additional conservative vote would make a really positive difference. In 57 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: a whole lot of other instances, one additional liberal vote. 58 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: We have four radical leftist justices on the Court. One more, 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: I think would be devastating, And I don't think it's 60 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: too much of an overstatement to say that that may 61 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: well be the single most important issue in this twenty 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: twenty election. This is the problem, and it's why I 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: like the idea of you senator on the Supreme Court, 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: because you know, we've had a lot of conservatives go 65 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: squishy once they get onto the Court. But of course 66 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: we also need you in the Senate. We all should 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: need you in the political fights. I like being in 68 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: the political fight. Yeah, I like being and the court's 69 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: the wrong place to do that. If I were a justice, 70 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: i'd stay out of political fights. I'd stay out of 71 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: policy fights. A principal judge doesn't engage in that. You 72 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: simply follow the law. That's what I do if I 73 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: were a justice, I don't want to do that. Yeah, 74 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: I want to be right in the middle of the fight. 75 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, I look at the Senate, 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: I look at the political scene. We need fighters right now. 77 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: I think what we're doing on this podcast, I hope 78 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: makes a difference, engaging on issues that matter. And so 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: I hope to be part of nominating and confirming two, three, four, 80 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: five great principled constitutionalist justices. But I don't want to 81 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: be one of them myself, all right, So I will 82 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: stop for now pressuring you to accept a potential Supreme 83 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: Court nomination. I do want to get to one of 84 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: those fights that you're involved in now, which is this 85 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: issue of Cuties. Cuties is this French movie that sexualizes 86 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: eleven year old girls and it's now on Netflix. Netflix 87 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: is promoting this thing like crazy. The poster is nauseating, 88 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: the movie is nauseating. You came out very strongly and 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: called for a Justice Apartment investigation into whether this is 90 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: what child pornography or exploitation. Can you can you lay 91 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: down the legal aspect of this? So last week I 92 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: wrote a letter to Attorney General Barr into the Department 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: of Justice, asking the Department of Justice to investigate whether 94 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: Netflix has violated any of the criminal laws prohibiting the 95 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: distribution of child pornography. And you know, it's an interesting thing. 96 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: So this movie is all about eleven year old girls 97 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: and the actresses, as I understand it, are eleven year 98 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: old girls who are dancing suggestively, dancing like strippers, engaged 99 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: in sexually explicit conduct on screen, and Netflix, a US company, 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: is promoting it and pushing it. And that's not okay. 101 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: Sexually exploiting. Look, I'm the dad of two little girls. 102 00:05:55,120 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Abusing kids is not okay. And just because net Flix 103 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: is now one of the Hollywood elite. Everyone treats it 104 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: as perfectly fine to take out to produce a movie 105 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: and distribute a movie where kids are being sexually exploited, 106 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: and that is a federal crime to sexually exploit children. Well, 107 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: here's what Netflix is saying. Netflix says this is completely misunderstood. 108 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: A lot of prominent left wingers are saying this too. 109 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: That's completely being misunderstood by right wingers who haven't seen 110 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: the movie. And this puts conservatives in a terrible box 111 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: because from everything we know about the movie, we don't 112 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: want to watch it, right, But then you're told that, well, 113 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: if you haven't watched it, and you can't have an 114 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: opinion on it. I had no intention of watching this movie, 115 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: but you know, I work for a news outlet. I 116 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 1: was told by my editor that I had to watch 117 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: the movie. I had said, I don't want to watch 118 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: this as disgusting. I don't want to. They said, no, 119 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: you have to watch it to give a review of it. 120 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: So I was on vacation for a week. I was 121 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: there with my wife and two of our friends. So 122 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: we say, okay, put the movie on. It is as 123 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: bad as they say. It is true that one of 124 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: the messages of the movie, perhaps is that it's bad 125 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: to sexually exploit kids. The problem is in conveying possibly 126 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: that message the movie sexually exploits kids. I mean, there 127 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: are moments you have to look away. My friends fiance 128 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: when we were watching this, stormed out of the room 129 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: in tears. It was that nauseating. How do we fight that? So, look, 130 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: I haven't watched the movie. I'm not I don't bring 131 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: much the movie, and I get and it's an odd 132 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: thing that the sort of twitter world of the blue 133 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: check bark journalists that are all defending kitty porn. Yea, 134 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: you know, the law matters, and there actually is. So 135 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: my letter to Attorney General bar explicitly cites the federal statue. 136 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: And let me tell you what the federal statute provides. 137 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: So it's eighteen USC. Section twenty two fifty two, and 138 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: it says that any person who knowingly transports or ships 139 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: using any means or facility of interstate or foreign commerce, 140 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: any visual piction, if the producing of such visual depiction 141 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: involves the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit content. 142 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: So this is the question, because when I watch it, 143 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the one good thing I can say about 144 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: the movie is they're not nude, right, but it is 145 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: licentious if there is no question, it is exploitative. So, 146 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: and the statute doesn't require that they may nude. It 147 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: prohibits distributing materials that have children engaging in sexually explicit content. 148 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: Is the language of the statute, and the punishment under 149 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: the statute for violating it is that you'll be fine 150 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: under this titled and imprisoned not less than five years 151 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: and not more than twenty years. But here's something interesting, Michael. 152 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: There's actually an aggravator in the statute that says if 153 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: the child or children in question have not attained twelve 154 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: years of age, that the punishment is actually increased to 155 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: a minimum of ten years in a maximum of twenty years. 156 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: So in this case, we know there are eleven year 157 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: old children. There's no dispute about that. I haven't seen 158 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: the movie. I don't know if the depictions satisfy the 159 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: requirements of the statute for sexually explicit conduct. But you 160 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: know what, it's not my job as a US senator 161 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: to investigate that. It is the Department of Justice's job. 162 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: So I asked them, look, I don't know if this 163 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: violates the law or not, there's certainly a prima facial case. 164 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: We know their children. The ads they're putting out are 165 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: explicitly sexual on the face of it. And you know, 166 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: there was one one professor who tweeted back at me 167 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: and said, well, you know, Cruz doesn't understand this is 168 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: a French film. And definitely, well it was kind of 169 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: interesting a because my letter explicitly references that it's a 170 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: French film. So the professor, and this says something about 171 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 1: the state of our academy hadn't bothered to read my 172 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: letter but instead was happy to criticize it. Of course. 173 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: But number two, it actually the child pornography laws in 174 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: the US don't give you a blank pass if it 175 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: happens to be produced overseas. It doesn't matter where child 176 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: porn is produced. If you're distributing it, it is a felony. 177 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: And by the way, Netflix is a multi billion dollar corporation. 178 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: These guys are getting rich. This is a major for 179 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: profit endeavor. And you know, one of the people who 180 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: has been completely silenced on this is Barack Obama, and 181 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: who has a deal with Netflix, and not a small deal, 182 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: I mean, according to the public reporting, he's been paid 183 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: what fifty million dollars from Netflix, So he is literally 184 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: making tens of millions of dollars and is completely silent 185 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: on is he okay with a company that is distributing 186 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 1: at a minimum sexual exploitation of children. That's kind of 187 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: the bare minimum. And there are a couple of reasons. Look, 188 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: it is a reasonable question to say, all right, what 189 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: is permissible? What is art? What is free speech? What 190 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: is pornography? That those can be complicated questions, but and 191 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: listen on the question of free speech and sexual conduct. 192 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: What consenting adults do is their business. You know, consenting 193 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: adults want to do something, knock yourself out. You got 194 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: a right to do whatever you want. Well, on this 195 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: issue of consenting adults. Actually, this ties in with another 196 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: very very creepy thing that's going on now being pushed 197 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: by Democrats in California. It's called Spey five. We have 198 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: an newsom just signed it into law. This basically says 199 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: that if a twenty four year old man has sex 200 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: with a fourteen year old boy, he does not have 201 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: to register as a sex offender. What is going on, 202 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: I mean, what is that about? And how is that legal? 203 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: I guess because obviously the fourteen year old is not 204 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: a consenting adult. Well, today's Democratic Party, and this was 205 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 1: pushed by the Democratic supermajorities and the californ on your legislature. 206 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: It was signed by the Democratic governor of California. To 207 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: the best of my knowledge, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 208 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: have been utterly silent on it. If they said anything 209 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: on it, I certainly haven't seen it. But but it 210 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: it is normalizing child abuse. And what it's saying. Listen, 211 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: a twenty four year old having sex with a fourteen 212 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: year old is not okay. And under the law, fourteen 213 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: year olds young children are not permissibly allowed to consent. 214 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: You have two adults, they can consent to whatever they want, 215 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: but children don't by definition, don't have the legal ability 216 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: to consent. And the problem is the Left that they're normalizing. 217 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: It's why you see the media. They don't want to 218 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: be critical of this Netflix movie because it suggests there 219 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: are any standards or lines that can't be crossed. But 220 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 1: when you produce a movie like like this Cuties movie 221 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: number one, it okay, you gotta think repedophile in America, Yes, 222 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: he is going to watch this movie, that this is titilation, 223 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: that that will encourage and drive more pedophilia. But it 224 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: also we know of at least some children who were 225 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: directly harmed by this movie. And those are the child actresses, 226 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: the eleven year olds who are being asked by their producer, 227 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: asked by the director to engage in sexually explicit conduct. 228 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: And and under the law there is no First Amendment 229 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: right to film kitty porn, to distribute kitty porn. That 230 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: when you're abusing a child, the usual responses is that 231 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: you're prosecuted and locked up in jail, and that's designed 232 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: to protect kids. But here's what they say, right, They'll say, well, 233 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: it's not pornography. It might be sexually explicit, it might 234 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: be exploitative, but it's not. It doesn't rise to the 235 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: level of pornography. And the federal statute is not a 236 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: pornography statute. So so so in actually this is not 237 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: something I talk about in the book One Vote Away. 238 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: But look, the Supreme Court for years engaged in the 239 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: world of what is pornography, what is obscene, and what 240 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 1: is not. I can't define it, but I know it 241 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: when I see it. That was Potter Stewart's famous test 242 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: for it, which which is I can't define it, but 243 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: I know it when I see it, um, and uh, 244 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, they're they're great stories. I think Bob Woodward 245 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: talks about it in The Brethren, where where they used 246 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: to have in the seventies they would have airings of 247 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: of porn movies that had been challenged on whether they 248 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: were obscene or not, and the court would have to 249 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: watch it to figure out and it would be I 250 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: think in a basement, um they would they would air them. 251 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: But but the I think it's Woodward tells the story 252 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: of like the clerks would be sitting in the back 253 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: going I see it. Yep, that's it, I say, I 254 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: know it, I know it, and that's definitely it. As 255 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: I recalled, I don't I hope I'm not telling tales 256 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: at a school here. Did did you watch a porn 257 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: movie once with Sandra day O'Connor. I did. It's It's 258 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: one of the things I talk about it in the 259 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: book the book as well, and it says awkward. You know, look, 260 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: you're twenty six years old and you're with a woman 261 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: in her seventies watching like graphic depicting. You're like, wow, okay, 262 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: this is really awkward, but you know it was even 263 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure weirder and more awkward. William Renquest and Sandra 264 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: Day O'Connor dated, that's right, in law school. They were 265 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: They were classmates at Stanford. He was number one in 266 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: the class, she was number three. I've always said, you know, 267 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: I wonder what happened to the poor, poor Schelove who 268 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: was number two. He's got to feel like a total loser, 269 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: gotten by history. But not only did they date, so 270 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: Renquist actually proposed marriage to O'Connor in law school. Now 271 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: she turned him down. She married, She was Sandra Day. 272 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: She married John O'Connor, and it ended up for fifty years. 273 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: Justice O'Connor and her husband and the Chief and his 274 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: wife were good friends. They socialized together. But imagine for 275 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: a second you're in your seventies and your eighties and 276 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: you're standing in a room with a woman you dated 277 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: fifty years earlier, and there's porn on the screen. That 278 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: was a weird and awkward moment, and you know it 279 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: when you see it, And I think this is this 280 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: is the key here because regardless, and by the way, 281 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad the Supreme Court is out of the business 282 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: of assessing whether a particular film is or is an 283 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: obscene that that that sort of amorphous judgment, Uh, didn't 284 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: make any sense for the court to be in And 285 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: I think this the First Amendment protects a lot of speech, 286 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: but what it doesn't protect is abusing kids. That that 287 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: that kids are aligned, that that is just qualitatively different 288 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: from adults. Right, and and even even if even if 289 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: the Netflix argument is right, that this doesn't rise to 290 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: the level of pornography. Actually, frankly, I mean, who know 291 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: the parts that I shut my eyes to. Who knows? 292 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem that it does. It's it's degenerate filth. 293 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: It is exploitative, and I think it meets the criteria 294 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: that the test of the statute is whether it's a 295 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: visual depiction that involves the use of a minor engaging 296 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: and sexually explicit conduct. Yeah. So, look, they could do 297 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: a documentary on child abuse, on child trafficking that would 298 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: actually be quite valuable a lot of kids. You know, 299 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: one of the many problems with child porn is many 300 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: of the kids are trafficked. They they're kept against their wishes. 301 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: Not only can they not consent, but but in far 302 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: too many instances, These are kids who are kidnapped and 303 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: trafficked and forced to engage in these acts. And I 304 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: think the Department of Justice should investigate whether this violates 305 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: the law. But I think it speaks volumes that Hollywood 306 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: thinks it's it's immune from the law, that that that 307 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: that the standards that applied everyone else Hollywood is exempt from. 308 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: There is something going on here, you know, there is 309 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: something in common with the promotion of this movie Cuties 310 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: with SP one forty five. I remember when when and 311 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: let me stop for a second on SPE one forty five. Yeah. 312 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: So the argument that the California Democrats give in the legislature, 313 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: as they say, this is a gay rights issue, and 314 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: because it's already the case that if it's a heterosexual 315 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: relationship twenty four to fourteen, then the offender doesn't need 316 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: to register. It's whether someone registers as a sex offender. 317 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: And as I understand at California law, if it's heterosexual 318 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: says they don't have when this law said if it 319 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: is homosexual, they don't have to. My view is, okay, 320 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: the first law is a little bit crazy. Well, if 321 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: you want to address that and have have parody, Okay, 322 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: how about if you abuse a child, you register. Yeah, 323 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: this did remind me of an issue that hit Bernie Sanders, 324 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: your colleague in the Senate, back in twenty sixteen and 325 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, which is he wrote some very odd essays 326 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: in the late nineteen sixties early nineteen seventies. In nineteen 327 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: sixty nine, he wrote an essay called the Revolution is 328 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: Life Versus Death something to that effect, in which he 329 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: implies that we should normalize child sexual behavior. And it 330 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: wasn't just Bernie who said this. This goes all the 331 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: way back to a strange figure named Wilhelm Reich on 332 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: the left who in the nineteen thirties he developed this 333 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: theory of the universe that the whole life force is 334 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: something called an orgon and war cancer disease, it's all caused. 335 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: I feel embarrassing in saying this in front of us senator, 336 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: It's caused by people not having enough orgasms. Seriously, this 337 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: is what he said, and basically you needed something called 338 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: an organ accumulator. Woody Allen later parodied this as the orgasmatron. 339 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: Very prominent leftists owned these weird boxes that Norman Mailer 340 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: had one, JD. Salinger had one, and this very kookie 341 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: theory pervaded some leftist thought, radical thought all the way 342 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: up through the nineteen seventies, and that's what Bernie Sanders 343 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: was writing about. And frankly, I think it's what we're 344 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: seeing today. Can I ask you a question, Michael here, 345 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 1: what the hell do you guys study at Yale? But like, 346 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't know this mandatory curriculum. Who this 347 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 1: schmuck Schmidt whatever his name is. I'm not familiar with 348 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: his writing professor. Yeah, well, okay, whatever it? Uh, yeah, okay, 349 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: that's weird stuff, yam. In the remaining couple of minutes 350 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: we have, we we've touched on Hollywood and the left 351 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: broadly in all this kind of creepy sex issue. But 352 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: let's not forget about the creepy a totalitarian issue. Because 353 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: while you've got Netflix, you know, not just hosting this 354 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: this creepy movie, but but promoting it, you've simultaneously got 355 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: Disney coming out and thanking the Chinese government, groveling to 356 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: the Chinese government even as they say that they might 357 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: not be able to work in Georgia because Georgia passes 358 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 1: a pro life law. Yeah. So this is the movie Mulan, 359 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: which which Disney filmed and did a live action version 360 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: of the animated film, and they filmed it in the 361 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: region in China where the Wagers are are held in 362 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: concentration camps, where they're being tortured, where where they're being murdered, 363 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: and we're talking most estimates are more than a million weekers. 364 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: Wagers are are an ethnic and religious minority in China. 365 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: They're Muslims, and the Chinese government viciously persecutes the um. 366 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: So Disney goes in films presumably right next to the 367 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: concentration camps and the police agency the and when I 368 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: say police agency, I mean the Communist Party stormtroopers, police 369 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: state who are abusing and torturing the weakers. Disney thanks them. 370 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean it truly is so. I just joined a 371 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: group of I think it's twenty other senators, bipartisan group, 372 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: in writing a letter to the CEO of Disney asking 373 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: a whole series of questions about why they were filming 374 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: in China, what concessions they had to make to make 375 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: to the Chinese government, what they knew about about the 376 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: torture and murder of the Wagers, and why they are 377 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: thanking the Titalitarian government engaged in that torture and murder, 378 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: and we also asked for what communications they had about them. 379 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: And look, we'll see how does he responds. But it's 380 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: not complicated. The answer is because of money. I mean, look, 381 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: we saw a similar story with the NBA that had 382 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: a basketball camp in this same region and they actually 383 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: had weager teenagers, fourteen and fifteen year old boys being 384 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: physically abused. NBA coaches knew about it, the NBA knew 385 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: about it, and they were just fine. And whether it's 386 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: Disney or the NBA, you've got a lot of American 387 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: companies that, in pursuit of the almighty dollar, are more 388 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: than happy to kiss up to jack booted thugs in 389 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: the Communist Party in China. Well, then, just to play 390 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: Devil's advocate one more time in the last minute or 391 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: so that we have left, what the left is doing 392 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: right now is saying, on the issue of cuties and 393 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: on the issue of Mulan, that conservatives or hypocrites, because 394 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: conservatives we talk a good game on free speech, but 395 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: then you know, we don't like the sexually explicit movie, 396 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 1: and we don't like Disney, a private company, doing what 397 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: it wants to do in the pursuit of the dollar. 398 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: So are we hypocrites or not? Well, no, the laws 399 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: should apply and the standards should apply fairly and even 400 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: lead everyone. So in the world of child exploitation and 401 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: porn should be that is a uniform standard. It doesn't 402 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: matter where your politics are, you're not allowed to engage 403 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: in child exploitation and porn um. When it comes to 404 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: doing business with China, look, I mean there are number one, 405 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: their US sanctions against certain Chinese entities that Disney needs 406 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: to be sure it hasn't violated US sanctions law because 407 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: that can have real and crushing financial implications. But look, 408 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: there is an element. There are lots of people in 409 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: the media, There are lots of people in the academy 410 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: that will be apologists for the Chinese communists. You know what, 411 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: they got a First Amendment right to do it. I 412 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: will happily defend their right to speak out. But you 413 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: know what I will also would do happily condemned the 414 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: garbage they're saying. Free speech doesn't mean you're immunized from 415 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: being criticized for what you say. I means you still 416 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: get to say things. You're going to say things, and 417 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: the rest of us get to say, why are you 418 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: supporting and praising and apologizing for and condoning jackbooted thugs, 419 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: and why are you making money on it? By the way, 420 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: it's the same point I've raised about Barack Obama. Why 421 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: is Barack Obama making fifty million dollars for Netflix when 422 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: they are distributing materials that are exploiting children? And now 423 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: that he can make the money from Netflix, But people 424 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: are entitled to ask that question about what you're choosing 425 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: to support, and in particular whether it violates the federal 426 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: criminal laws, as in this instance it may well have. 427 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: At the same time that these studios are removing Gone 428 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: with the Wind, one of the most celebrated movies in 429 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: American history, removing cop shows because it's politically incorrect. Now 430 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: from streaming platforms, they're promoting cuties and they're promoting peons 431 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: to the Chinese government. That is a major cultural problem. 432 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: And I don't think there's anything hypocritical about about raising it. 433 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: But but you know that they do have new standards 434 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: for the Academy Awards now and they have explicit racial 435 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: quotas now that you have to have um a percentage 436 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: of disadvantaged populations to be eligible for Best Pictures. So 437 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: so I don't know if if if like they're going 438 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: to have to go back and and remake the Godfather movies. 439 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Apparently too many Italians. You and I are both you 440 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: have more Italian blood than I have, but we both 441 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 1: have some Italian Apparently too any Italians and the Godfather, 442 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: so you need to, like, I'm not even sure what 443 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: they're going to do to make it comply. Are we 444 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: sufficiently persecuted? I mean that's a question too. Can we 445 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: maybe win an Oscar? I I mean, these are this 446 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: brave new political world is really raising a lot of questions, 447 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 1: and maybe, Senator, and one of these episodes we can 448 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: do it live from the Academy Awards hopefully, UM, as 449 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: long as you promised never never to pose as as 450 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: as Oscar that I can promise you. I think that 451 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: would be exploitative, an explicit. Nobody wants to see that either. Indeed, 452 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 1: that is our show, Senator, Thank you very much. On 453 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: Michael Knowls, this is Verdict with Ted Cruz. 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