1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: H m hm h m h h h. 2 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: H h. We've got to get in here today to 3 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: talk about some incredibly sad news, the passing of the 4 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: hardcore icon. 5 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: But before we do that, I gotta welcome in them 6 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: of extreme Franccene fran scene. 7 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: Pretty much gonna hand it over to you as we 8 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: discuss the death of Saboo. 9 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: My god, what what pains are you about? This is Saturday. 10 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: We were we were in the car and it was me, uh, 11 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Hack Sandman and Todd. We were just talking about people 12 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: in general, and like I want to say, maybe like 13 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, people who did drugs in the locker room 14 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: and just just you know how you tell you're on 15 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: a really long car ride and you just bring up 16 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: stuff out of the blue, And I said something like 17 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: I cannot believe that Sabo was still alive. And then 18 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: the next day I get a phone call from Todd 19 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: or no, he texted me. He texted me Sabou died. 20 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: And my heart just dropped and I was like what, 21 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: and He's just like, yeah, it's he goes. It's not 22 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: out to the public yet, but I wanted to let 23 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: you know. And I just like, I felt so bad 24 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: for saying that on Saturday. But just because like I 25 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: always thought of Saboo as like a cat went nine lives, 26 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: like not only for like his like the drug use, 27 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: because it's out there, like people knew that he took stuff. 28 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: I'm not, it's not breaking news or anything, but watching 29 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: him work and seeing all the crazy bumps he took 30 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: and the death defying leaps and just Saboo being Saboo. 31 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: I cannot believe that he survived like a lot of 32 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: the stuff that he did and wasn't hurt more in 33 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: however many years. You know that he worked, but he 34 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: he first of all, he should have been a gazillionaire, 35 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think he had much money at all 36 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: towards the end. And you know, people can say what 37 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: they want to say on how he spent his mind. 38 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: You know, I am I am will never bash Sabou. 39 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: He was a dear friend of mine who I loved 40 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: and admired, and I took it hard. It was Mother's 41 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: Day and we were having company over and I was 42 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: sitting at the island in my kitchen just sobbing, sobbing, 43 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: an hour before our guests were supposed to come, and 44 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: my husband walked upstairs because I guess he heard me 45 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: crying and he just came over and gave me a hug, 46 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: and you know, it's like it's like you know it's 47 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: going to happen, but you don't know when. And it 48 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: kind of should not have been such a shock to me, 49 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: but I was taken aback. I was like, this can't 50 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: be happening. I just saw him the last two weekends. 51 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: I was with him, you know, and even after and 52 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: we have a clip to share, even after the Joey 53 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: Janellas Spring Break match, which was brutal. I didn't see 54 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: the whole thing. I saw a little bit here and there, 55 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: like I saw him the next day at Wrestle Con 56 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: and Classic Taboo gives me a big hug, big kiss 57 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: and grabs me and whispers in my ear. They said 58 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm retiring. I never said I'm retiring. I'm not retiring. 59 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: And I go, oh, are you gonna pull a tary 60 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: funk on us? And he goes, I don't know if 61 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: they're trying to do ticket sales or what. He goes, 62 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: but I'm not retiring. I'm going to keep wrestling, And 63 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: I said, good for you, so I mean he and 64 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: he looked he looked tired. He just but he was 65 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: there and he was taking pictures and signing autographs, and 66 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, he made a shot, but I just said, 67 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: are you okay, and he's I'm okay, I'm okay. He 68 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: didn't look okay to me. He just looked exhausted and rightfully. So, 69 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, twelve hours before then, that crazy 70 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: stuff was happening. But I mean, my heart was broken. 71 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: It was broken, and I don't I don't know what 72 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 1: else to say. I loved him, I love him, I 73 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: will always love him. I remember one time one time 74 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: doing promos and I was almost attacked by a homeless 75 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 1: guy and I was telling him the story and he 76 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: pulls out his box cutter and he says, you always 77 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: need one of these, and he showed me how to 78 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: cut somebody with a box cutter. Here's never been without one. 79 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: And I was just like, oh okay, and he's like, 80 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: if you had this, that guy wouldn't have bothered you. 81 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: And I was like, okay. But he was my friend. 82 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: And if you know, to some people, he might have 83 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: been stand offish, but again, if he was your friend, 84 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: he would give you the shirt off his back. He 85 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: was funny. He was witty and so talented, like he 86 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: gave his life to professional wrestling, and no one can 87 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: deny that about him. So I will miss him greatly, 88 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: and I just I don't know, sixty years old is 89 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: just too young, and it's it's somebody else, you know, 90 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: from my ECW family that we lost, and I I 91 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: don't know exactly. I know he had a heart attack. 92 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what caused it. You know, people are 93 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: speculating out there. I don't I wasn't there. I don't 94 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: know what caused it, you know. But I I just 95 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: feel that sixty is way too young, and I don't 96 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 1: know what else to say. I'm just very very sad, 97 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,239 Speaker 1: very very sad. 98 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 2: This hit the wrestling community in a big way. Like 99 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: you said on Mother's Day, go back if you can 100 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: to when you first met, when you first came into 101 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: the business. 102 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Now he had a huge like. 103 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: Aura around him, and everybody knew who Saboo was before 104 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: they knew who Saboo was. And you knew the pants, 105 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: you know, you knew the scars across the stomach, you 106 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: knew all that. But what was your first impression of 107 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: Saboo when you got into professional wrestling and we're backstage 108 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: at ECW. 109 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I only knew what I saw of him 110 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: on TV. I got to know Saboo the more time 111 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: that I was in that locker room. And in the 112 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: beginning he shook my hand, it was very polite, and 113 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: then you know, then it became like a little hug, 114 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: and then it was a big hug, and then it 115 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: was a hug and a kiss, and then it was 116 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: my brother, you know what I mean, just like anybody else, 117 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: he warms up to you, and I I don't know, 118 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: I just people fans didn't see what we saw because 119 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: we saw whole different side of Saboo. He just I mean, 120 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: he was so funny. He was just so funny and 121 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: had such a good sense of humor and was such 122 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: a sweet soul, you know. And you know, some people 123 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 1: might say he had a hard exterior, but they didn't 124 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: know him. They didn't know him personally like we knew him. 125 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: And again, I just I never I never expected him 126 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: to die. But on the flip side, it was just like, 127 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: I can't believe he's still here. And that just doesn't 128 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: make any sense when you say it out loud, you know, 129 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: it really doesn't. Now that I said it out loud. 130 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: It makes no sense. It's like a Noxi moron or something. 131 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: But it again, it goes back to like him doing 132 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: all this crazy stuff, and then you do add whatever 133 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: he was doing on his own time, which scared me 134 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: because you know, look look back at all the guys 135 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: who've passed, ninety nine percent of them, well not ninety nine, 136 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: but a lot of them had drug and substance abuse problems, 137 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: alcoholism or whatever, you know what I mean. But a 138 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: lot of them had to do that to deal with 139 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: the pain. You know, you get hooked on these pills 140 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: because you're in constant pain. Look at the bumps that 141 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: this man took. How I'm I'm in awe that he 142 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: can even walk. Yeah, you know, so I don't put 143 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: my nose up at him for you know, taking what 144 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: he took or whatever. And I don't know what he took. 145 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm going by what I hear, and you know what 146 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: people are saying, I really don't know. I mean, he's 147 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: never come out to me lately, and like you know, 148 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: he always said he doesn't have a problem, he can 149 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: handle it, and he was always at the shows. I've 150 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: seen him at so many of these signings and functioning 151 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: and taking pictures and stuff. So I thought he was okay, yeah, 152 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But then you know, you 153 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: get the news like this, and it's just like, where 154 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: did this come from? I just saw him. I saw 155 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: him in Vegas, and then I saw him at the 156 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: ECW Arena, you know, and I didn't get to talk 157 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: to him now much, but of course he ran over 158 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: and gave me a hugging a kiss, and that's the 159 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: last time I saw. 160 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: Him, yeah, you know, And it was funny. I was 161 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 2: thinking about this afterwards. You know, when super Genie Melissa 162 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: Coates passed away, right, you know, she was a real 163 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: essential part to him for many years, and I think 164 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: many might have thought after she passed away that would 165 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 2: have been the beginning, yeah, the beginning of his downfall. 166 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 2: But he actually did manage to find a way to 167 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: go on and live for many years afterwards and make 168 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: it to the shows and do exactly what you're saying. 169 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: And it's just a miraculous existence he had, and it 170 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: is a remarkable way he did live. Just the things 171 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: he did in the ring, and I mean we've heard 172 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: stories of what he did outside the ring, you know, 173 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: over the years, but again, you saw what he was 174 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: like on the inside and behind the curtain. I mean, 175 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: you know this is a guy again you said the 176 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: heart exterior. I mean at shows, booking guys, all your friends. Basically, 177 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 2: he scared me. He's walking by him, he gave you 178 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: a look, and you're just like, I just don't even 179 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: want to go by and say anything because I think 180 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: he's going to bite your head off. But maybe I 181 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: should have just gone and said hello, and maybe I 182 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: would have been dead wrong. 183 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, and you didn't. You didn't know him well 184 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: enough to see that side. And you know you mentioned 185 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: Melissa when she died. I talked to him so often 186 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: about her afterwards, and I was checking in on him 187 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: to see if he was okay, and a lot of 188 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: times I get no, I'm not okay. And I was 189 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: worried about him, you know, and I was like, saboo, 190 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: you know, please don't do anything you're gonna regret. He 191 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 1: loved her, he loved her, and it was just he 192 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: got through it, you know, like you said, bounced back 193 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: and was working more, and just I just I understand, 194 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: but I don't understand. And again that doesn't make any sense. 195 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: I sat here on Sunday. I called Shane right away 196 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: after Todd, and you know, Shane was just like, oh 197 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: my god, oh my got He's like, you know, like 198 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: I expected, but I didn't expect it today kind of thing. 199 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, it was just it's a lie. 200 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: And just see, I'm glad I saw him recently and 201 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: was able to give him that warm hug. And but 202 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: it's it just doesn't make it any easier for us. 203 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: You know. It's just it's another member of our family 204 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: gone and it sucks. Yeah, so I'm I'm just sad 205 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: about it. 206 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: We'll end on a high, happy note in a few minutes, 207 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: but I just want to bring this up because this 208 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: is the elephant in the room after all the tributes, 209 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: after everybody was kind of coming through and saying all 210 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: their you know, well, great memories about Saboo. A story 211 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: kind of started to circulate after an interview with Joey 212 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 2: Janella about possible passing of some sort of substance in 213 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: saboos or be prior to Sabu's last match at that 214 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: GCW show, leading to people sharing the bumps that Sabu 215 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 2: took in that last match with Joey Janella and then 216 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: pairing it with the quotes that went along with that 217 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: interview and kind of like making it seem really rough. Now, 218 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: you said you saw Sabou the next day and he 219 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: was looking really tired. Well, apparently he needed or this 220 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: is all a legend from this interview, there was some 221 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: sort of something that was passed to him to help 222 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: him get to that match, because he kind of came 223 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: in not feeling so great and or looking ready to 224 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: go into this quote last match. As he said, he 225 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: wasn't feeling it was his last match. 226 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: Do you want can you run the clip of the 227 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: the bump for me? 228 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely, Excuse me, we. 229 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: Can get into uh real quick, what was said? 230 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 2: All right, So here's the first one. 231 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Okay, this is into the farmwire. 232 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: He goes, Now, this is the one everybody's talking about 233 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: right here. Okay, this in the back of that one 234 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 2: sect this one right here, situate. 235 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: More. He goes to his head that concrete. That's that's m. 236 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: So your expert opinion watching that bump, seeing him go 237 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: he I mean, it looks to me like his body 238 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: went limp as he was in mid air. But what 239 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: do you see when you see him? 240 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: You know, I mean his legacy is already set in stoon. 241 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: He did not have to do this at sixty years old, 242 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: just my opinion. I know he he loved the business 243 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: so much and he wanted to keep working, but I mean, 244 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: he could have just gotten away with just signing autographs 245 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: at this point and trying to get his body healed 246 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: up for the you know, the golden years so to speak, 247 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: coming forward. You tell me, is there any reason why 248 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: he needed to do something like this. And again they 249 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: were labeling it as his last match, and I told 250 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: you what, he whispered in my ear, It's not my 251 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: last match. I'm gonna keep working. And I'm like, you're crazy, 252 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: Why why do you have to do this. I mean, 253 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: I know, okay, for the paycheck or whatever, but I mean, man, 254 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: just double up on the bookings and save your body, 255 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, not saying he couldn't go anymore, because I 256 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: mean obviously still doing stuff. But to me, I would 257 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: have preferred him to just take bookings, just signing and 258 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: being safe and just trying to you know, recover from 259 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: all the damage over the last forty years that he 260 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: put his body through. It's just it makes me sad. 261 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: It makes me sad again. It falls back on these 262 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: wrestlers not having pensions or social security or you know, 263 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: because a lot of them won't buy into it or whatever. 264 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: No union, there's nothing to fall back on when these 265 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: guys are older. So what do they do? They continue 266 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: to work and do these crazy matches, and that's what 267 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: he's known for. I understand that, but I don't know that. 268 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: I thought I just just to me it was unnecessary. 269 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 2: You want to read it or here's the quote says 270 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: we're an hour into the show, and I said, just 271 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: get Sabo here. Janella continues. So he gave him something 272 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: called kray Tom. You can buy it at a smoke 273 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: shop or something. It's like a legal opioid or opiate 274 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 2: or something. They said, he's hopping on the bed, he's 275 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: hopping off the bed, and we're going to get him 276 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: to the show. So he shows up two hours into 277 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: the show. Sabu was on a different fucking planet. Everyone 278 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: in the backstage is like, what the fuck is this 279 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: match going to happen? And my god, did it happen. 280 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: He's on a different planet, meaning drug wise, is that 281 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 1: what they're talking about? 282 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 2: That would be my estimation. When you give somebody an 283 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: opiate they're on a different planet. 284 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: Well there's more to that. There's more than that quote. 285 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 2: Uh well that was the second part of the quote. 286 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: The first part of the quote is how uh what 287 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: do you mean Sabu can't walk? They said, yeah, sabab I. 288 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: Have it, I have it right here. 289 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 290 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: It was fairly confident that he was fine. I was 291 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: kept in contact with him, and he has a team 292 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: of people around him. Guys. At the time, they were 293 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: all saying he was ready to go, that he was 294 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: going to the gym, that he was on a training program. 295 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: I believe them until the day of the show. The 296 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: two hours before I get a call Sabo can't walk. 297 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: What do you mean Sabo can't walk? They said, yes, 298 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: Saboo's something with his knee. They're locked up. He can't 299 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: walk and his feet are bleeding. He's not coming. Saboo's 300 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: not coming. I said, Saboo's fucked. So we talked to 301 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: indie wrestler Matt Tremont and Treymont is about to be 302 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: the replacement for the match, and I feel like this 303 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: is going to be the most embarrassing moment on my 304 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: wrestling career. Here's two thousand people this is one of 305 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: the biggest spring breaks ever, the biggest crowd Mania week 306 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: in Indie wise, and I'm gonna have to go out 307 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: there and announce that Saboo once again No showed, and 308 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: No showed his own retirement match. And then your quote 309 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: came second, and then it says he was definitely out cold. 310 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: He was done. They were telling me there was no way. 311 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: The roughs were commune to me that there's no way 312 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: he's continuing this match, like holy shit, that is the 313 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: one time you want the barbed wire to stop you. 314 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: He just blew right through it. And then the Sandman 315 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: came out and that was all saboued it needed. The 316 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: resurrection happened. Jesus resurrected two days later, the anniversary. I 317 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 1: couldn't fucking believe it. Dude, he was ready to go again. 318 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: I guess that concussion knocked him back in the nineteen 319 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: ninety six or something. I don't know. Okay, so that 320 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 1: was done in an interview. Meanwhile, everybody on the internet 321 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: goes ape shit saying that GCW had no reason to 322 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,239 Speaker 1: put him in the ring like that, which you know, 323 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: we just said if he if his feet are bleeding 324 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: and he can't walk. Why would you make somebody wrestle? 325 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 2: Right? 326 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: You would pull them correct? Right? Yoh yeah, Joey. Janella, 327 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: he's come and he wanted to clear the air about 328 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Saboo's usage of kray Tom. In a lengthy post, he says, 329 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm truly devastated over this, and this whole deal has 330 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: really affected me. Am I pronouncing it correctly, cray tom, 331 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: That's what I think it is, Okay. It's something Sabo 332 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: took daily for years and it helped him get off 333 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: other substances. Saboo loved his weed and kray Tom. His 334 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: body was wrecked doing what he loved for forty years. 335 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: He says he embellished a bit when he said the 336 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: veteran was knocked out. I love Saboo. He was legitimately 337 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: my idol growing up in my friend I just wanted 338 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: to give him in the fans one last great Saboo spectacle. 339 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: A snowball effect happened one acts people were saying that 340 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: Janella was responsible for Sabu's death. He comes and says 341 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Taboo was fine after the day after he signed out 342 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: Russel Khan. He has been doing many appearances since. I 343 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: don't know what the cause of death was. But all 344 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: I can say is I wouldn't change a thing, and 345 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: I'm happy he went out on top. So well, I 346 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: have a bit of a problem with that because if 347 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: the man cannot walk and his knees are messed up 348 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: and his feet are bleeding, was he forced into doing this? 349 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: That's something we'll never know. 350 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: No, you know what I mean, who's his team? Who's 351 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: Sabo's team? Almost knows the guys that booked the appearance. 352 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: I mean who's the team. 353 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a guy that hanged, that was hanging 354 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,239 Speaker 1: out with him all the time, that used to he 355 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: was dressed like Rick Flair, that was his buddy. Yeah, 356 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: he was with him several times. I don't know. I 357 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: forget the guy's name. I don't know if he was 358 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: with him that evening, I don't know. All I know 359 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: is reading that one, uh parograph is disturbing because, like, 360 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: why would you force somebody to wrestle if they're not 361 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: in the right state to do so, or if they're 362 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: so messed up on drugs or substance, or if they're bleeding, 363 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: their feet are bleeding, their knees are so locked that 364 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: they can't walk. 365 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 2: That's that's that's out there. 366 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,880 Speaker 1: Like, why would you always say that? And then why 367 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: would you say that. 368 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: In an Yeah, that's really not helping your cause with 369 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: giving that detail. 370 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I don't. I don't get. Look, 371 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm not putting blame on anyone. I'm just saying I 372 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: don't get why you would force somebody to perform. I 373 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: understand it's the biggest show of the you know, the week, 374 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: the weekend, and you want it to go well and stuff, 375 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: But isn't somebody's health more important you think? I don't know. Again, 376 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't there, you know, I don't. I never I 377 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: don't believe I met Joey in person. I'm not sure. 378 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: I never heard anything bad about the guy, and from 379 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: what I heard, the match was incredible. But it makes 380 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: me sad if he was forced to do something, and 381 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, Sabu wouldn't have done it if he didn't 382 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: want to do it too. Again, he loves the business 383 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: so much, you know what I mean. So I'm not 384 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: saying he was held at gunpoint and oh you have 385 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: to wrestle tonight, but that is disturbing to hear that 386 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: his feet were bleeding, his knees were messed up. He's 387 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: bouncing off, bouncing off the bed, bouncing on the bed. 388 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: What does that mean? 389 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was jumping. Did you know Sabo is somebody 390 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 2: who would jump on a bed. 391 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: Well, if he can jump off and on a bed, 392 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: why then how is this feet bleeding and his legs 393 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: locked up? It's contradicting each other. Like, I don't understand, 394 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: I don't get the interview. I don't know, I don't know. 395 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: It makes me sad, this whole thing. It makes me 396 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: very very upset. And you know, maybe that match had 397 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: nothing to do with him dying. I guess we'll never know, 398 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: but it sickens me because I lost a friend and 399 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: a brother and I'm I'm just devastated. And he's in 400 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: a better place and he's at peace and he's not 401 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: in pain anymore. So there's that. 402 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: I Like I said, I wanted to end it on 403 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: a little bit of a lighter note. Do you have 404 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: a favorite match against Sabu? 405 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: The one I mean, you know, Shane wrestled him a 406 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: bunch of times, and the one thing I remember there was, 407 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: like I want to say, there was a tag. It 408 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: was him, It was Sabo and Van dam on one side. 409 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it was I don't know if it was Shane 410 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: and Tommy, because Beulah and I got to jump in 411 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: the ring and do sleeper holds simultaneously on like I 412 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: it was Saboo and then I jumped on Saboo and 413 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 1: put put it on him, and then Rob came in 414 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 1: and then Buelah put it on him. So it was 415 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: like a four way sleeper and we were all laughing 416 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: that's awesome. Yeah, like it was a house show. It 417 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: was a house show. Yeah, but yeah, I jump on me, 418 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: It'll be great. I was like, Okay, it was just 419 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. He just worked with them so many times. 420 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 2: And. 421 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: He was just a nice guy. He's easy to get 422 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: along with if you were in his inner circle. And 423 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: I I'm gonna miss him. I'm gonna miss him a lot. 424 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, they broke the mold when they made Sabo. We 425 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 2: will that's all you got. We will get out of here, 426 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 2: Will point one more time? Will point up? 427 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: I get cut off by my green screen, isn't there? 428 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: We go area point up one more time? 429 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 1: I can't disappeared. 430 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: Well, definitely, I'll go back and check the ball. I 431 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: know we did a couple of watch alongs to some 432 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: matches with Shane and Saboo. So if I can find one, 433 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: I will throw one up for the for the members, 434 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: and if there's not one on there already, I will 435 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: put one up because I know we do have one 436 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 2: in the vault. So if that's all you got, we 437 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 2: will get out of here for today. And for that 438 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: Queen of extreme, this. 439 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: Is the chad Ster. 440 00:27:36,760 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: We will catch you on the flip side.