1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio everybody. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: It's Almost Famous podcasts. 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 3: Today, Ashley and myself are thrilled because we have someone 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 3: coming on the podcast that we have been rooting for 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 3: through the latest season of The Golden Bachelor, and in fact, 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 3: Ashley thought this person was gonna win. She's intelligent, sophisticated, 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: a great answer, and let's not forget absolutely stunning. I'm 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: talking about Cindy. Cindy, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, that was just incredible. What a warm welcome. 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Thank you so much. I have 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 4: no words for you. 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 5: You deserve it all. You are the classiest lady. You 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 5: are the Golden Bachelorette that I pray for. You are 15 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 5: seriously so you'd be so perfect in that role. And 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 5: I'm just in my opinion and our audience knows. I 17 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 5: don't know that mel has set us up for another 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 5: Golden installment, but if they have, if there is to 19 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 5: be one, you would be fantastic lead because you have 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 5: all the characteristics of what makes somebody golden. 21 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 3: That's a good question there, though, I mean, Cindy, to 22 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 3: kick us off, do you think there'll be another season, 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: I hope. 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: So I know that when I watched the previous two 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: seasons of The Golden Bachelor and the Golden Bachelorette, and 26 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 4: even watching our season of the Golden Bachler. Of course, 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 4: I'm invested in it because I'm in it, but there's 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: some issues that I think are worthy to explore, and 29 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 4: I think people are fascinated by the dynamics. Okay, let 30 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 4: me just give you my hot take, all right, So 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 4: as I'm out and about, you know, it's been kind 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: of fun to be recognized by different people and the 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: Bachelor Nation it's a real thing. Like the Bachelor Nation 34 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: is awesome. But there's another group of people who are 35 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: not part of Bacher Nation. They haven't ever watched it, 36 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: who have watched our show, and I know it because 37 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 4: they come up to me, and I can't figure out 38 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: the demographic of it. You know, I'm an analytical person 39 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 4: and I'm trying to you know, Okay, well those people 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: like me? Are they women in their fifties, sixties, seventies, 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: Is that who it is? Yes, I do have those. 42 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: I was at a football game and this mom came 43 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 4: over to me and said, I recognize you. Actually I 44 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 4: didn't recognize you. My son recognized you. He's an eleven 45 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 4: year old who was watching, and we're going to get 46 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 4: a family picture with you if that's okay, but he 47 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 4: wants his own picture with you. I was at a 48 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 4: concert and these two twin men come over. They're in 49 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 4: their fifties, completely awesome cowboys. They come over and they're like, 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 4: we've been watching you on this season. So I think 51 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: there's a fascination to what's going on in the Golden 52 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: Years when it comes to your relationship that I think 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 4: people are very curious to see. I was curious to 54 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: see it, and I hope they continue. I think it's 55 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 4: an interesting dialogue. I kids learned a lot about me, 56 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: you know, I learned a lot about me. I think 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 4: the audience learned a lot about all of us by 58 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 4: watching the show. 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 5: I think Ben and I both learned a lot about ourselves. 60 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 5: I matured so much. I know it's shocking for people 61 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 5: to hear that I'm matured through that, but I definitely did. 62 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 4: Definitely only because you don't need to mature any longer. 63 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: Thanks so, Cindy. 64 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 5: When Mel was first announced, soon after, he made some 65 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 5: not so bright comments on a podcast about not wanting 66 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 5: to date anyone in their sixties. I guess, not being 67 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: aware that the cast is always going to be in 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 5: their sixties. Did you have any second guesses about being 69 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 5: on his season? 70 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: I did. I Okay, A couple of things happened. He 71 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: was announced. My daughter texts me, and we didn't know 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 4: it at that time, but we were all super excited 73 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 4: because on paper we look to be a very good match, 74 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: and you know, that proves out, I think during the season. 75 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 4: Later on, when that broadcast or that podcast was revealed. 76 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 4: Directly to the podcast, I read the transcripts, but then 77 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 4: I wanted to hear Mel's voice in it, and I 78 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: was very concerned about how very effortvescently he was interested 79 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 4: in dating that younger group. I've got lots of friends 80 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 4: who date younger. I don't have a problem with that, 81 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: but please don't go on The Golden Bachelor where I'm 82 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 4: sixty and I'm probably going to be one of the 83 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 4: youngest ones on the show. What are we doing here? 84 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: So I had a conversation with the producer that I 85 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 4: had been talking to and just express my concerns, and 86 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: she told me that they've talked to Mel. They had 87 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 4: a conversation. It was just kind of a misunderstanding, and 88 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: I decided to go ahead and continue on. But yeah, 89 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 4: I was definitely concerned about his comments. 90 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: Who wouldn't be, I mean, I guess let's drill into 91 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: that a little bit. 92 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: Though. 93 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: I would be very concerned, especially if I was you. 94 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 3: I'd feel almost like offended and then her and confused, 95 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 3: and in an environment that already burrs insecurity, those comments 96 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: would have made me very hesitant to step out of 97 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: the limo into the mansion. And so I guess what 98 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 3: made you say yes, this is still a good idea. 99 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 4: I'm going to turn that question around on you and 100 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: when you talk about when it spurs insecurity, right, A 101 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: lot of people think that a woman should feel insecure 102 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: maybe if a man wants to date a younger category. 103 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 4: And I actually think that golden women in particular, and 104 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: you know Ashley too, because he's wise beyond your years 105 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 4: and Ben you too, we see that men who date 106 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 4: so much younger might also be a red flag. And 107 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: I think the question really is more, is that we 108 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 4: watching his insecurity? 109 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: Okay, so I think that's fair, But then the question 110 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: still comes about either direction. 111 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 2: You still said yes, I. 112 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: Still said, yes, I think that you probably hadn't met 113 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 4: a group of women like I was about to participate in. 114 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 4: I don't know the other women, but I know me. 115 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 4: And by the way, I still fit this category because 116 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: I'm sixty. 117 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 5: Sixty and younger. 118 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:22,799 Speaker 4: Sixty and youthful, and I will. Let's just talk about 119 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 4: this though, because I think this is one of the 120 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 4: issues that's very valuable in the amongst my friends and 121 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 4: people my age group, is people dating outside of their 122 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 4: age group. I heard something very interesting from someone and 123 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: I don't have any evidence of it, but when they 124 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 4: said it, I thought, wow, that seems true. They said 125 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: that men tend to date people when they're out of 126 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 4: a relationship, when they, for example, go through a divorce 127 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 4: or lose their spouse, they tend to date someone who 128 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: is in the age group for when they were last happy. Wow, 129 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: that's super interesting about that. And women tend to date 130 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 4: into a lifestyle that they want. 131 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 3: I mean, you've known this since you know knowledge for 132 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: a bit. Do you think that's true. I mean, it's 133 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: a very interesting thing to think about. 134 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 4: I think it's kind of true. I think it's kind 135 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 4: of true, and it just anecdotally, just think about the 136 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 4: friends that you might have who are dating in a 137 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: different age category. I tend to date people who I 138 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: like to say went to high school with me, you know, 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 4: plus remnus four years. Mel was outside of my dating 140 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: age paces as well. 141 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, traditionally I never liked veering above or below four years. 142 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we're both high schoolers. 143 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 144 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, So for me, I knew I was dating outside 145 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: my range to date Mel, and I knew I would 146 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 4: be outside of his range. I was on the older 147 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,239 Speaker 4: group ironically, and he was in my older group as well. 148 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 4: But he had enough on paper that I had seen. 149 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: I had also watched a YouTube my oldest daughter should 150 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 4: be spy. This woman can find out anything about anyone. 151 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: And she sent me some data and I said, okay, 152 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: what else you got? She goes, no, Mom, I'm not 153 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 4: going to show you everything because I want you to 154 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: discover him for who he is. But she sat with 155 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 4: me on the couch right here. We watched that TV 156 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 4: and we watched a YouTube of a guy who I'm 157 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: going to try to say this kindly, he was. He 158 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: was talking about a sporting event and he was clearly 159 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 4: outclassed by interviewing. Mel Meil knew a lot more than 160 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 4: this guy knew. Mail never made him feel insecure, never 161 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 4: made him feel like that was a stupid question. So 162 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 4: I was balancing also the dynamic that I saw of 163 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 4: that mail and all the other things on paper with 164 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 4: the podcast, and that was kind of countered by what 165 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: my producer said that they had spoken to him about. 166 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 5: So before we get into deeper into your relationship with mel, 167 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 5: we're very eager to know all your thoughts, especially looking 168 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 5: back on it. But first, since you're divorce, you dated 169 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: Chuck Norris when he was when he was really a 170 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 5: get yeah act, can take down the world with one hand. 171 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, he's he's one of the classiest, best 172 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: gentlemen I've had the privilege to spend time with. But 173 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 4: he that's this is how you guys don't even know. 174 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: We were riding on tablets with like you know, etching tools 175 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 4: back then, and there was no Internet. I was living 176 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: in LA and I had moved from Orange County up 177 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 4: to this hotel off the Mulholland and the four or 178 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 4: five and waiting for my I just moved there and 179 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 4: waiting to get an apartment, and somebody at the front 180 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 4: desk said, hey, there's another guest at the hotel who 181 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: saw you and thought you were cute and wanted to 182 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 4: know if you would like to join them for drinks. 183 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,079 Speaker 4: And I said, well, who is it, do I? And 184 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 4: they're like, well, he's kind of famous and told me 185 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 4: it was Chuck Norris. I didn't know who Chuck Norris was, 186 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 4: and there's no internet back then for me to look 187 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 4: it up. All I know is he's a very nice gentleman. 188 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 4: And we met and people would come over and interrupt 189 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: us and ask for his autograph. And I remember saying 190 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: to him one day like, hey, where's my autograph? And 191 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 4: the next time we saw each other, he brought me 192 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: an eight by ten that he'd signed. I still have 193 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 4: I have a photo of it. It's in my storage unit, 194 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: but I have a photo on my phone of it. 195 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: And then I realized his kids were about my age, 196 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: and that kind of freaked me out. I was very young, and. 197 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 5: He's how old is he now? 198 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 4: In his eighties? In his eighties now eight five? 199 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm looking at shirtless. He looks good. 200 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, he was. And he was so nice. He 201 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 4: was such a gentleman, not lecherous at all, really a 202 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 4: nice man and I think it was probably refreshing for him, 203 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: but I didn't know who he was and it was 204 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 4: new to the town. It was just a very sweet relationship. 205 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: It wasn't very long, but yes, I had a couple 206 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 4: of dates with Chuck Norris and can't say anything bad 207 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 4: about that guy. He was awesome. 208 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: It's something that wasn't brought up enough though. 209 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: I feel like Chuck Norris is one of those guys 210 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 3: that has defied what most people can do with their careers, 211 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 3: where people my age know all about him and still 212 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: watch the shows. 213 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 5: You watched Texas Ranger or whatever it's called. 214 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Yes, I agree up when. 215 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 5: Conan O'Brien used to do this sketch about it, and 216 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 5: my sister and I would like pe our pants laughing. 217 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 5: That's the extent that I know. 218 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: He's just so well known. 219 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 3: He's crossed generational thresholds, and I think that's such a 220 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: cool thing. Anyways, we could talk about Chuck Norris for 221 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: a long time. 222 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 4: I can make one more Let me take one more 223 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: comment about it. So I've got three daughters, right, and 224 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: I'm the most unpool person in their minds as they're 225 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 4: growing up, just like your parents, were probably uncool to you, 226 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: and so I'm like, no, no, I was cool. I 227 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: danced for the Mavericks, I you know I had. I 228 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 4: dated Chuck Norris And they're all like, whatever, whatever, mom, 229 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: that's so not a big deal. And then one of Sarah, 230 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 4: one of my oldest daughter's friends, found out that I 231 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: dated Chuck Norris and now I'm a superstar. And those 232 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 4: boys were like, oh my gosh, did you know Missus 233 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 4: Colors dated Chuck Norris? So I was a big superstar. 234 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 4: So they're friends. But you're right, he crossed many generations 235 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 4: in his appeal. 236 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: Now, Sidney, speaking of your family, your daughters are wonderful, 237 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: it seems from what we got to you know, what 238 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: we've gotten to know about them when you were on 239 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: the show. Were they only excited? Were they nervous? I mean, 240 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: have they You said that when they're growing up, you 241 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: were the least cool person they possibly could know. But 242 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure as they've gotten older they've realized just how 243 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 3: great you are. Kind Of what was their sentiment as 244 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: you left and then stay. 245 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: It was Caroline, my youngest, is the one who got 246 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: me into it, and they all were very supportive of it. 247 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: They you know they when I say they didn't think 248 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 4: I was cool. They've always had a healthy respect for me, 249 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: and our relationship is precious. I know everybody thinks they've 250 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: got a good relationship with their kids, but mine is 251 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 4: really special. I am God's favorite, abundantly blessed, and they 252 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 4: are my crowning jewels. Those three, as well as my 253 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 4: two son in laws, they were supportive. They thought that 254 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 4: mel was going to be a good match and my 255 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 4: middle daughter, Emily. Two days after we filmed, I was 256 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 4: wrapping and came home to Austin, did some laundry, then 257 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: headed out to her wedding in Italy, so her family 258 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: had a lot going on. I think the biggest concern 259 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 4: was what would happen if we had a glitch with 260 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: the wedding planning, you know, or anything that happens as 261 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 4: you lead up to a wedding and they couldn't reach me. Yeah, 262 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: I think that was their biggest question. 263 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: You were a massive Cindy fan. 264 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 3: I was a Cyndey fan, but you were like wearing 265 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 3: the T shirts actually during the season. 266 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. 267 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: How did I never notice that her eyes are like 268 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: radiant and like stearing through. 269 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 5: Her I don't know, because I always noticed that, and 270 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: I heard that they were even more stunning in real 271 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: life from Kathy. 272 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: Oh, Kathy, your eyes are wild. 273 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: Like my kids call them marbles. Yeah, I can see 274 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 4: that marbles. I'm like, that's interesting. I had to thank you, 275 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: mom and dad and Grandpa Floyd and sorry, actually continue. 276 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 5: Your daughters look so much like you too. There's like 277 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: a gorgeous group of women. 278 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 4: You ought to see us together because we act alike. 279 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. 280 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 4: Though down in downtown Austin where I live, you'll see 281 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: people the same age group, like people like me tonight 282 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 4: going out with some girlfriends, or you'll see the younger 283 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 4: ones like my kids, but you don't really see a 284 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 4: lot of the you know, parents with their kids. Even 285 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: though it's a college town. You just don't see it often. 286 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: And we'll roll up into a place and it'll be 287 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: me and my you know, copy paste, copy paste, coffee paste, 288 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: all three of us, and then we act alike, and 289 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: we talk alike, and we have the same mannerisms and 290 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: the same engagement, and people just are fascinated. They call 291 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: us the Kardashians sometimes. 292 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 5: It's so cute, the Kardashians of Austashians. And another reason 293 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 5: why you need to be on our TVs again. All Right, So, Cindy, 294 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 5: you fell hard fast for Mel, and you were so 295 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 5: open about it throughout the entire thing. I've got to 296 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 5: know now, in hindsight, was it the bachelor bubble or 297 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 5: did you really feel that much for him? 298 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 4: Okay, some of it's edited. So the first date, the 299 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: first date, the first group date. Remember we're cheering, and 300 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: it literally is the day was made. God made that 301 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: day for me, no question about it. The overlap with 302 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 4: it's a cheer thing. It's at USC Models, I mean 303 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: SMU Models after USC, so I felt like I was 304 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 4: back on my college campus. It's at this amazing stadium 305 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: and I have such a reverence for sports. It was 306 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: Paula Abdul who did choreography for me when I was 307 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 4: a Maverick dancer. We're back dancing. I have Caroline on 308 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: the phone doing a doing a concert that Jerry and 309 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: I just prayed for her, just to sync ronicities. She's 310 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: with Diana Ross, who Mel lived across the alley from. Literally, 311 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: I thought, for no other reason, I am assured that 312 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 4: today God has said you are supposed to be here. Okay, 313 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 4: So I have that assurance from them. Whether it was 314 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 4: because of mail or whether it was because of another reason. 315 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: I was assured that that was He went before me 316 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: thirty years maybe more to set up a day like that. Amazing. 317 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 4: So I was feeling all of that. That was a 318 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: little overwhelming. And then Mel was I mean nothing short 319 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: of fantastic. I mean, our little smooches walking down the stadium. 320 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 4: It was awesome. But in the editing when I said 321 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: I'm falling in love with Mel, what was cut, understandably 322 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 4: so because Cindy tends to talk a lot. What was 323 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 4: cut is when I said, there's a lot of different 324 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 4: types of love. This is like puppy love. When you're 325 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 4: around a puppy. They're so cute, they're wagging their tail 326 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 4: and you just want to be around them all the time. 327 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 4: And that's what I was feeling for Mel. That wasn't 328 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 4: the mature love. It wasn't you know, there's a lot 329 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 4: that goes into it. But early on I thought, man, 330 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 4: there's something, there's something to this, something to this. I 331 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 4: still feel that way. Yeah, it was a great, a 332 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: great possibility all along. 333 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 5: Well, we have even more to talk about, so we're 334 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 5: going to break this into a second episode. You can 335 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 5: stay tuned see that on your feed pop up until then, 336 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 5: We'll see you next time. 337 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on iHeartRadio 338 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.